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Tax Cut Package Easily Passes Senate

December 17, 2010 by  

Tax cut package easily passes SenateThe Senate overwhelmingly voted in support of a $858 billion tax cut package on Dec. 15, which sends the bill to an uncertain fate in the House of Representatives.

Senators voted 81-19 to pass legislation that includes a two-year extension of the Bush-era tax breaks for all Americans, which are set to expire on Dec. 31. The bill, if passed, would also extend unemployment benefits for 13 months, cut the payroll tax by 2 percentage points for a year and restore the estate tax to a lower level.

According to CNN, House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said that his chamber was set to take up the bill on Dec. 16. Several House Democrats want to set the estate tax rate at 45 percent for inheritances up to $3.5 million. The package approved by the Senate includes a 35 percent tax for estates worth at least $5 million.

However, more than two dozen moderate House Democrats submitted a letter to the chamber's leaders, calling on their support for the compromise package between President Barack Obama and GOP leaders. Senate Republicans have warned that any Democratic changes made to the bill in the House may derail the entire proposal.

"If the House Democratic leadership decides to make partisan changes, they will ensure that every American taxpayer will see a job-killing tax hike on Jan. 1," Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ken.) said in a statement, quoted by CNN.

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  • jopa

    JOEh;Have I ever heard of NET & GROSS, I sure have whats your point?i41 do you have some sort of anal fetish? Apparently, the mindset you seem to display suggests this.PLease try Charm School one more time.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      jopa, my point is that the employees don’t get considered into the formula in deciding the size of an inheritance!

  • SodBuster

    $6 billion allotted for bio-fuel agriculture imbedded in a ‘tax law’? 1.Corn is an intensive water soaking crop. 2.We are trading pure drinking water for gasoline. c.We may get thirsty one day

  • Mick

    Karolyn says:
    December 17, 2010 at 3:32 pm
    So we should stop supporting any kind of research and go back in time? Our footing is already slipping in many areas as compared to other countries
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Karolyn

    You obviously have no happy medium , like a faithful liberal it’s all or nothing but always advocate compromise, as long as the compromise goes your way Right ??? otherwise you would call it obstruction..
    As for your back in time comment, many things that were good in the past have been replaced by some junk of present time.
    Reasonable priced Medicines that used to cure people have been taking off the market and have been replaced by some crap with tons of side affects and keeps you going back to the doctors office, how in the hell the past generations survived ?
    People should think before lunching their trust in all of this modern and so called better products, just take a look at the ethics and frame of mind of many scientists, Frankenstein don’t have nothing on them and yes I would be very careful about funding many of the research programs….

    • Karolyn

      Miock – Most medicines don’t cure anything and only treat symptoms. I am far from pro Big Pharma and don’t even go to the doctor myself. I believe more in Traditional Chinese Medicine. I said compromise, and I meant compromise. Don’t put words in my mouth. You certainly cannot say that ALL research is garbage. There are also programs that are be beneficial that should be continued, especially when it comes to education. I’m not as liberal as you might think. In order to advance in this world and keep up with everyone else, we can’t just stop everything. Unless you want China, Japan and other countries to really speed ahead of us.

      • Karolyn

        Sorry, I meant Mick.

      • Mick

        Karolyn says:
        December 18, 2010 at 11:49 am
        Miock – Most medicines don’t cure anything and only treat symptoms. I am far from pro Big Pharma and don’t even go to the doctor myself. I believe more in Traditional Chinese Medicine. I said compromise, and I meant compromise. Don’t put words in my mouth. You certainly cannot say that ALL research is garbage. There are also programs that are be beneficial that should be continued, especially when it comes to education. I’m not as liberal as you might think. In order to advance in this world and keep up with everyone else, we can’t just stop everything. Unless you want China, Japan and other countries to really speed ahead of us.

        ********************************************************
        Karolyn,,,And if you read my post correctly i didn’t suggest to cut all research programs but 3/4 of them should be scratched and don’t worry about China and japan getting ahead of us , they already are but are not stupid enough to divulge everything they do and know.
        And you’re right about most medecines not curing anything now days, it used to but our good advancement took care of that. No profit in curing people and keeping people in fear about their health in also quite beneficial………………

  • Moment of Clarity

    What points many of you are missing in all of the shouting and name calling is 1. the country must operate on a balanced budget 2. many programs earmarked are beneficial and should be funded, such as medical research, BUT should not be funded by the federal government. The money for these good programs should come from philanthropy and businesses who will benefit. Obviously we need to dump the earmarks for stupid programs like ““Tattoo Removal Violence Prevention Outreach Program” … really! how dumb!

    The federal government has 2 functions 1. protect us – that means maintaining a strong military and enforcing common sense laws and 2. provide a means for an infrastructure – that means water, power, roads, seaways, air travel. THAT IS ALL. Everything else needs to come from the local (state & town) governments, where the people who live there get direct benefit from the taxes they pay. Isn’t there something wrong with folks in Boise paying for Boston’s “Big Dig”? Many earmarks benefit businesses … programs that benefit businesses need to be paid for by businesses, not federal funds. If businesses and local governments are left to their own devices, every aspect of our quality of life will increase. If the federal government stays out, and the local people are left to control their state and town governments, business, jobs, the economy, and quality of life will all flourish. It is only natural that man always tries to improve his condition, but he must be left alone to do it on his own.

    • Mick

      Moment of Clarity says:
      December 18, 2010 at 5:10 am
      The federal government has 2 functions 1. protect us – that means maintaining a strong military and enforcing common sense laws and 2. provide a means for an infrastructure – that means water, power, roads, seaways, air travel. THAT IS ALL. Everything else needs to come from the local (state & town) governments, where the people who live there get direct benefit from the taxes they pay. all flourish. It is only natural that man always tries to improve his condition, but he must be left alone to do it on his own.

      ****************************************************
      Moment …..In the shape this country is right now we need to cut a hell of a lot even for a short time to keep our heads above water and maybe start showing our society than saving is a good thing,sacrifice is not heartless but necessary……………

  • http://com i41

    As usual jopa is talking out his rectum, again like all democrats. Gross income for socialist is something they cann’t comprehend. The costs of raw materials has increased a lot the last 4 years, as well as the increases in permits and licenes,even driving permits have doubled in cost this last year. Plus any business will have a pretty hefty increase in building insurance and equipment insurance,just to mention a few thanks to the democrat icrease of regulations. The biggest cost increases coming are for energy, wheather electricity or fuel, shipping and freight costs keep climbing. Plus with the new banking reform bill pasted by the beltway democrap morons. That has almost made it impossible unless everyone is a Soros, Buffet, or Gates, from starting any business, no matter how small.So anytime you Marxist Communist Democrat Union Socialist Pinheads want everyone to make the same wage amount, no matter if lazy a$$ed puke welfare rat, or the company owner. When pinheads complain about the rich people paying more taxes, dem bastards let Greaseback Rangel, Waters slide, Daschle, and Geithners. they all should be thrown in the crowbar Hilton like Duke Cunningham. Pelousy is just one multimillionare, like most Congress pukes. Charities don’t depend on dems. because republicans give several times more than the cheap bastard dems numbers don’t lie. Onumnutts, the muti million dollar crooked worthless idoit in Cheif and his favorite riding mare proved that on their tax returns, Clintons would show theirs, probably too much drug sales cash. Since eddee claims he is an Indian, he gets his monthly check, freebies and goodies for being a banket butt. If he is a rez runner, he gets free medical and doesn’t pay taxes. As for ammoral pukes, that classifies welfare rats, union dinks, illegals and pretty much most government beltway agency hourly employees.

  • Raggs

    I need to agree that the republican party should have waited until the “NEW” congress took up seats..
    It appears that this is the same ole politics as usual. Well what can you expect when 90% of these idiots made a life long carrer out of screwing us?

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Raggs,
      you couldn’t get any more right!!! They BOTH screw us daily and don’t even buy us a meal!!

      • Bleh

        Sometimes I wish they would lube it just a lil.

  • Raggs

    Boy obama sure is making a name for himself waiting until Christmas to ram-n-force legislation… I guess he figures all of the little sheeple are waiting on santa instead of paying attention.. Hell he can do that anyday of the week!!! All of the little sheeple that voted for his ignorant arse are still clueless!

    Don’t even think for one second that he is moving to the center of the aisle! He will fool you with lies while he stabs you in the back!

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Raggs,
      You could be wrong. If you start in new york and travel far enough east, you end up in new york again!! If he travels too much farther to the left, maybe we’ll get lucky and he will travel to the right!!LOL!!! Hell, he’s so to the left, I think they had to build a plank to get to him!!

  • chuckb

    let’s face it we have been sold down the river by the republican’s again. this tax extension means nothing, it won’t make any difference at this point. just more pork added to the debt. the democrats have won again over a muddled minded bunch of rino’s. this matter should have been left to the new congress. thank you graham and mccain. this is exactly the kind of politics that caused the mess we have today. barry was not about to veto any tax extension in january passed by the new congress, in fact they probably could have made in permanent without all the earmarks. barry won again. if the repubs don’t gwet their act together come jan. we might as well all become comrades in arms with the marxist demos.

    • Karolyn

      It’s called compromise and cooperation, and it’s more of what we need in this country.

      • chuckb

        no karolyn it’s called political weakness on the republican side. no guts no glory.

      • Bleh

        Compromise in the interest of maintaining the tax rate would have been to cut spending. Instead we add another trillion to the deficit.
        That is not compromise in the interest of progress.
        What it actually is… Is more of the same.
        This country does not need More debt.
        This country does not need a Higher deficit.
        This country does not need a Weaker dollar.

        Hurray for what this country does not need, that it just received.

  • jopa

    MaranthaMark;You mentioned how tough it would have been for a business making a one million dolar gross income with 20 employees to pay their taxes.After you divide that one million dollars among 20 people plus operating costs there would have been no tax increase for this small business and it’s employees.Actually they would have been further ahead if the tax cuts expired for the rich and they would have been under the $250,000 mark.Simple math.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      jopa,
      ever heard a couple of a couple of terms called NET AND GROSS???

  • hundabuxt

    Our tax system, if you can call it that, is grossly inequitable. Its been preverted by numerious influences bought and paid for by lobbists. I don’t know about the rest of you but property taxes in my State increase with the increase in the value of your property, be it improvements you make or market value, usually both. If the accesed value of your property is say, $500,000 you pay substantially more than the property worth half that. Why is it so alien a concept applied to income taxes? You can sum it up in one word: GREED.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      hundabuxt,
      We had a problem here. We paid our taxes for four years before the assesor came by to asses our property. We found out they had our house listed as a partially finished basement, which it wasn’t, a half bath in the basement which it didn’t, air – not, and it supposedly was seven foot longer and 5 foot wider. We had been overpaying our taxes for four years cause the people two owners had removed the half bath without a permit, The goofball they sent around to measure the house couldn’t read a tape, and the Good Lord knows where they got a partially finished basement! We asked them about a refund and were flat told “we don’t do refunds!” We would have gone to court but it would have cost us over double what they over charged us!

      • Bleh

        That blows, but don’t ever miss your tax payment dammit!
        Or they take your property and boot you to the nearest maximum prison.

        That is unless you are a Congressman or somewhere around that sh!thole they refer to as DC.

  • Norman Taber

    You have abandoned the Democratic Party.

    During the last national elections, i spent over 60 hours calling for Democratic Candidates at the Santa Clara County Democratic Office. What did you do for the Democratic Party? Those that had safe seats did not even support Democrates in your assigned committees. Even when the re-election of incumbents was assured, Senator Barbara Boxer, her associate in the Senate from California did not campaign for other Democratic candidates. Now you give in to a phony situation where the economy needs more taxes and a revert to a system that would provide some of those taxes, you caved. The money you gave to the rich is now going to be invested abroad and you do not care that we may have difficulty maintain the value of the dollar. There should have been a start of a movement of poor unemployed workers to demand their NEW REPRESENTATIVES to pass a needed unemployment benefits renewal. Now you are going to be on the defensive to protect the new medicare program that is going to be carried by PRIVATE INSURANCE COMPANIES. YOU ARE GOING TO SIT THERE AND SAY WE CAN DO NOTHING.
    Norman Taber

    — On Thu, 12/16/10, Norman Taber wrote:

    From: Norman Taber
    Subject: US has become the most economically stratified of industrial nations

    US Has Become The Most Economically Stratified of Industrial Nations

    “Comparative data suggest that “rather than being an egalitarian society, the United States has become the most economically stratified society of the industrial nations. We have more poor than rich than other industrialized nations. America’s chief executive officers (CEOs) re paid two to three times more than Germany’s or Japan’s. George Will writes, In Japan, the compensation of major CEOs is 17 times that of the average worker; in France and Germany, 23-25 times; in Britain 35 times; in America, between 85-100 times. The American CEO-worker disparity doubled during the 1980s–while the top income tax rate was cut and workers; tax burden increased because of social security taxes.
    Because Ronald Reagan was not elected to bring more equality, the growth of inequality during the 1980s did not create a lethal problem for him. Although his more pragmatic advisors, along with his public relations team, understood that the president might be vulnerable to Democratic accusations that his policies stimulated inequality and were therefore unfair, they reasoned correctly that even as evidence mounted that inequality was increasing, they could neutralize the publicity of such disparity as long as the economy continued to grow.”
    FDR and Reagan, John W. Sloan, UNIVERSITY PRESS OF KANSAS, p. 312

    Where is the Fiduciary Duty of the Board of Directors?

    Norman Taber, MS Accountancy, Financial, Enrolled Agent; MSG(AOR)Ret

  • barbm

    “Democratic changes” and “House Democratic leadership”. they are democrats, not democratic. republicans caan be democratic, but they cannot be democrats. please stop using them interchangeably. websters even allows it, but it’s not correct. democrat according to webster’s – “a : an adherent of democracy b : one who practices social equality
    capitalized : a member of the Democratic party of the United States.” democratic – “1: of, relating to, or favoring democracy
    2 often capitalized : of or relating to one of the two major political parties in the United States evolving in the early 19th century from the anti-federalists and the Democratic-Republican party and associated in modern times with policies of broad social reform and internationalism
    3: relating to, appealing to, or available to the broad masses of the people
    4: favoring social equality : not snobbish” they are NOT the same.

    • Karolyn

      Give me break!

  • Norm

    It seems when the Republicans blow a trillion in borrowed dollars it’s not a problem. Only Democratic debt is bad.

    • Bleh

      Incorrect. You are just upset because of last November.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Bleh,
        they will still be stinging in 2012!! Then in 2016 Maybe both parties will be stinging from the independents!!

    • Norm

      The fact still remains that Congress just doesn’t have the b*lls to do the tough things that need to be done.
      Thousands, maybe millions, of jobs have been shipped out of this country. They are still leaving and they’re not coming back. Tax cuts, unemployment checks, government induce interest reductions are no better than shooting Heroin. They make people feel good but they’re more destructive than beneficial.
      We need tax increases and government spending cuts, and a balanced budget. If we ran our lives like the government runs this country we’d all be bankrupt!

      • Karolyn

        I just heard of a company moving operations back to North Carolina from out of the country. It’s the largest pillow-making company in the country.

      • libertytrain

        Hadn’t heard that but it’s a start.

  • eddie47d

    Sandra;All responses are excellent and from liberals and conservatives. (except i41).The poor do pay taxes on commodities (store purchases)but there are still too many who want a hand out. I’d also respect the wealthy if they weren’t so busy building up their personal Kingdoms instead of building up America. (no class envy Time,some of them are immoral puke). How’s those tax breaks that they got years ago working out for this country? It could all be business as usual.

  • Mick

    how about cutting the rest of this shit……..

    $277,000 for potato pest management in Wisconsin
    $246,000 for bovine tuberculosis in Michigan and Minnesota
    $522,000 for cranberry and blueberry disease and breeding in New Jersey
    $500,000 for oyster safety in Florida
    $349,000 for swine waste management in North Carolina
    $413,000 for peanut research in Alabama
    $247,000 for virus free wine grapes in Washington
    $208,000 beaver management in North Carolina
    $94,000 for blackbird management in Louisiana
    $165,000 for maple syrup research in Vermont
    $235,000 for noxious weed management in Nevada
    $100,000 for the Edgar Allen Poe Cottage Visitor’s Center in New York
    $300,000 for the Polynesian Voyaging Society in Hawaii
    $400,000 for solar parking canopies and plug-in electric stations in Kansas
    $200,000 for “Tattoo Removal Violence Prevention Outreach Program,” pg. 283;
    $5.8 million earmark for the “Ted Kennedy Institute for the Senate…for the planning and design of a building & an endowment,” pg. 232;
    $473,000 earmark from Sens. Bingaman and Menendez, pg. 212.National Council of La Raza,

    — Requested — In Legislation — Passed — Declined

    These are earmark requests for the 2011 fiscal year. For FY 2010 earmark requests click here. Request data was collected from disclosures on congressional web sites, so be aware of data quality issues. Please contact us for more information on the data represented here.

    Earmarks List

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    Foreign Agricultural Scholarships
    EARTH University, Atlanta, GA 30305 (1 comment »)
    Rep. Mike Honda (CA-15) requests $3,000,000 (Requested)

    Gunshot Location System
    City of Richmond, Richmond, CA (1 comment »)
    Sen. Barbara Boxer (CA) requests $596,200 (Requested)

    Girl Scouts USA STEM Initiative
    Girl Scouts USA, Washington, DC 20006
    Rep. Mike Honda (CA-15) requests $1,000,000 (Requested)

    A Child Is Missing
    A Child Is Missing, Ft. Lauderdale, FL 33316
    Rep. Jerry McNerney (CA-11) requests $300,000 (Requested)

    Feature Size Yield Enhancement
    Defense Microelectronics Activity, McClellan, CA 95652
    Rep. Doris Matsui (CA-5) requests $25,200,000 (Requested)

    California Spatial Reference Center
    University of California San Diego, La Jolla, CA 92093
    Rep. Mike Honda (CA-15) requests $1,000,000 (Requested)

    Martin Slough Interceptor
    City of Eureka, Eureka, CA 95501
    Rep. Mike Thompson (CA-1) requests $1,500,000 (Requested)

    Kurdish Human Rights Watch
    Kurdish Human Rights Watch, Inc., El Cajon, CA 92019 (2 comments »)
    Rep. Bob Filner (CA-51) requests $500,000 (Requested)

    Critical Language Training; San Diego State University
    San Diego State University Research Foundation, San Diego, CA 92182
    Rep. Susan Davis (CA-53) requests $3,500,000 (Requested)

    National Ignition Campaign
    Department of Energy, Washington, DC
    Sen. Dianne Feinstein (CA) requests $395,000,000 (Requested)

    Project PRIDE
    Chabad of Santa Cruz, Santa Cruz, CA 95060
    Rep. Sam Farr (CA-17) requests $400,000 (Requested)

    Goleta Beach
    U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Goleta, CA
    Sen. Dianne Feinstein (CA) requests $4,700,000 (Requested)

    Mariachi in the Schools Program
    Mariachi Scholarship Foundation, Chula Vista, 91911
    Rep. Bob Filner (CA-51) requests $250,000 (Requested)

    Appropriate Technology Transfer for Rural Areas
    National Center for Appropriate Technology, Butte, MT 59701
    Sen. Dianne Feinstein (CA) requests $2,800,000 (Requested)

    New Day for Learning, Summer Learning Collaborative
    New Day for Learning, San Francisco, CA 94102
    Rep. Nancy Pelosi (CA-8) requests $300,000 (Requested)

    Pacific Ocean Shelf Tracking Project (POST)
    Pacific States Marine Fisheries Commission, Portland, OR 97202
    Rep. Sam Farr (CA-17) requests $2,000,000 (Requested)

    Sacramento Police Department Mobile Data Computer System & In-Car Camera Replacement Camera Project
    City of Sacramento Police Department, Sacramento, CA 95822
    Rep. Doris Matsui (CA-5) requests $4,200,000 (Requested)

    The National Institute on State Policy on Trafficking of Women and Girls
    Center for Women Policy Studies, Washington, DC 20036
    Rep. Lynn Woolsey (CA-6) requests $930,000 (Requested)

    Learning Through Listening
    Recording for the Blind & Dyslexic, Princeton, NJ 08540
    Rep. Lois Capps (CA-23) requests $15,000,000 (Requested)

    Middle Creek Flood Damage Reduction and Ecosystem Restoration
    U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Clear Lake, CA
    Sen. Dianne Feinstein (CA) requests $1,200,000 (Requested)

    State: All States Alabama Alaska American Samoa Arizona Arkansas California Colorado Connecticut Delaware District of Columbia Florida Georgia Guam Hawaii Idaho Illinois Indiana Iowa Kansas Kentucky Louisiana Maine Maryland Massachusetts Michigan Minnesota Mississippi Missouri Montana Nebraska Nevada New Hampshire New Jersey New Mexico New York North Carolina North Dakota Northern Marianas Ohio Oklahoma Oregon Pennsylvania Puerto Rico Rhode Island South Carolina South Dakota Tennessee Texas Utah Vermont Virgin Islands Virginia Washington West Virginia Wisconsin Wyoming Representative: AllCA-1 Rep. Mike Thompson (D)CA-2 Rep. Wally Herger (R)CA-3 Rep. Dan Lungren (R)CA-4 Rep. Tom McClintock (R)CA-5 Rep. Doris Matsui (D)CA-6 Rep. Lynn Woolsey (D)CA-7 Rep. George Miller (D)CA-8 Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D)CA-9 Rep. Barbara Lee (D)CA-10 Rep. John Garamendi (D)CA-11 Rep. Jerry McNerney (D)CA-12 Rep. Jackie Speier (D)CA-13 Rep. Pete Stark (D)CA-14 Rep. Anna Eshoo (D)CA-15 Rep. Mike Honda (D)CA-16 Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D)CA-17 Rep. Sam Farr (D)CA-18 Rep. Dennis Cardoza (D)CA-19 Rep. George Radanovich (R)CA-20 Rep. Jim Costa (D)CA-21 Rep. Devin Nunes (R)CA-22 Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R)CA-23 Rep. Lois Capps (D)CA-24 Rep. Elton Gallegly (R)CA-25 Rep. Buck McKeon (R)CA-26 Rep. David Dreier (R)CA-27 Rep. Brad Sherman (D)CA-28 Rep. Howard Berman (D)CA-29 Rep. Adam Schiff (D)CA-30 Rep. Henry Waxman (D)CA-31 Rep. Xavier Becerra (D)CA-32 Rep. Judy Chu (D)CA-33 Rep. Diane Watson (D)CA-34 Rep. Lucille Roybal-Allard (D)CA-35 Rep. Maxine Waters (D)CA-36 Rep. Jane Harman (D)CA-37 Rep. Laura Richardson (D)CA-38 Rep. Grace Napolitano (D)CA-39 Rep. Linda Sánchez (D)CA-40 Rep. Ed Royce (R)CA-41 Rep. Jerry Lewis (R)CA-42 Rep. Gary Miller (R)CA-43 Rep. Joe Baca (D)CA-44 Rep. Ken Calvert (R)CA-45 Rep. Mary Bono Mack (R)CA-46 Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R)CA-47 Rep. Loretta Sanchez (D)CA-48 Rep. John Campbell (R)CA-49 Rep. Darrell Issa (R)CA-50 Rep. Brian Bilbray (R)CA-51 Rep. Bob Filner (D)CA-52 Rep. Duncan D. Hunter (R)CA-53 Rep. Susan Davis (D)Sen. Barbara Boxer (D)Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D) Status: All Requested In Legislation Passed Declined Show
    Education Grants to Tribes
    Tribal Education Departments National Assembly, Boulder, CO 80302
    Rep. Mike Thompson (CA-1) requests $2,000,000 (Requested)

    Marine Bioregion Classification of the US EEZ
    Marine Conservation Biology Institute, Bellevue, WA 98004
    Rep. Sam Farr (CA-17) requests $1,000,000 (Requested)

    Commuter Rail Extension to Monterey County Project
    Transportation Agency for Monterey County, Monterey, CA 93901
    Rep. Sam Farr (CA-17) requests $5,000,000 (Requested)

    “Soccer for Success” Youth Soccer Gang Prevention Initiative
    U.S. Soccer Foundation, Washington, DC 20036 (1 comment »)
    Rep. Lucille Roybal-Allard (CA-34) requests $200,000 (Requested)

    Infectious Diseases Research
    Los Angeles Biomedical Research Institute at Harbor-UCLA Medical Center, Torrance, CA 90502
    Rep. Jane Harman (CA-36) requests $1,000,000 (Requested)

    Equipment Request to Further Geroscience, Study of the Connection between Aging and Disease
    Buck Institute for Age Research, Novato, CA 94945
    Rep. Lynn Woolsey (CA-6) requests $812,050 (Requested)

    Zebra Mussel Eradication Program
    San Benito County Water District, Hollister, CA 95024
    Rep. Sam Farr (CA-17) requests $2,349,500 (Requested)

    Diversity Recruitment for Naval Academy
    U.S. Naval Academy, Annapolis, MD 21402
    Rep. Xavier Becerra (CA-31) requests $2,500,000 (Requested)

    Early detection and treatment of prostate cancer
    AdMeTech Foundation, Boston, MA 02114
    Rep. Diane Watson (CA-33) requests $4,000,000 (Requested)

    Conversational Pomo Distance Learning Program
    California Indian Museum and Cultural Center, Santa Rosa, CA 95403
    Rep. Lynn Woolsey (CA-6) requests $97,200 (Requested)

    Marin County Breast Cancer Research
    Marin County, San Rafael, CA 94903
    Rep. Lynn Woolsey (CA-6) requests $489,500 (Requested)

    Traceability Technical and Educational Program
    Grower Shipper Association of Central California Foundation, Salinas, CA 93902
    Rep. Sam Farr (CA-17) requests $1,500,000 (Requested)

    City of Santa Maria
    City of Santa Maria, Santa Maria, CA 93454
    Rep. Lois Capps (CA-23) requests $600,000 (Requested)

    Tools for Tolerance
    Simon Wiesenthal Center, Los Angeles, CA
    Sen. Barbara Boxer (CA) requests $1,000,000 (Requested)

    Martin Slough Interceptor
    Humboldt County, Humboldt County, CA
    Sen. Barbara Boxer (CA) requests $1,500,000 (Requested)

    Climate Change Impacts to Salmon Strongholds
    Wild Salmon Center, Portland, OR 97209
    Rep. Mike Thompson (CA-1) requests $500,000 (Requested)

    St. Joseph Hospital – New Tower Construction
    St. Joseph Hospital, Eureka, CA 95501
    Rep. Mike Thompson (CA-1) requests $5,000,000 (Requested)

    Senior Nutrition Center, Hoopa Valley Tribe’s K’ima:w Medical Center
    Hoopa Valley Tribe, Hoopa, CA 95546
    Rep. Mike Thompson (CA-1) requests $1,150,000 (Requested)

    Angel Island Immigration Station Hospital Restoration and Stabilization
    Angel Island Immigration Station Foundation, San Francisco, CA 94133 (

    Rep. Lynn Woolsey (CA-6) requests $1,000,000 (Requested)

    Digital Mammography Project
    St. Joseph Health System – Sonoma County, Rohnert Park, CA 94928
    Rep. Lynn Woolsey (CA-6) requests $300,000 (Requested)

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    • HFlashman

      Two questions..as a % of the budget, how much does this represent?

      Of the above projects…what are the ones you think are desrving of being cut out? Maybe the breast cancer research programs? Or the Distance Outreach education program? or how about the Zebra Mussel eradication research program?

      C’mon…what ones should be cut?

      • ERABIT

        ALL OF THEM. WHAT ARE YOU STUPID??????

      • HFlashman

        ERABIT … So you see nothing on that list worthwhile to fund. Interesting. I’m certain the vast majority of people (99.99%) would say you’re the one with limited intelligence if that’s your stance.

      • Karolyn

        So we should stop supporting any kind of research and go back in time? Our footing is already slipping in many areas as compared to other countries.

      • HFlashman

        Karolyn…these folks espousing the wealthy interests have no clue…I’d venture none have read any of the works by Upton Sinclair, Ray baker, Samuel Adams etc as to conditions before regulatory administration over industry and the wealthy were emplced for our safety and protection.

        They believe the lies… and why not? Ignorance is the bedrock of the GOP platofrm and politcal machine. These folks have no knowledge that these are the same lies told in our past…and which our forefathers fought so hard today to overcome.

      • Bleh

        At the moment no superfluous spending should be allowed until the deficit is eliminated and debt is brought down to a manageable level.
        This country has been creating debt consistently at least for the last 100 years. It has caught up with us.
        It is time to fix our debt, then we can look at your “extra curricular” items.
        If that means pausing your “cool research” and letting the private sector handle it, if its worth something, then so be it.
        Your “cool research” is not worth flushing the country down the toilette lock, stock and barrel.

        Already we see what is on the horizon for us in Europe if we do not pull our heads out of our Anal Crevasse and become fiscally responsible…

      • http://none Mike

        Karolyn, If there were a market for their research. They would not be at the goverments door begging for our money. They would be before some bord of directors looking for market research money. But thats a free market idea which I am sure is beyond your grasp. There should never be a spending bill before congress that has research money in it for studing why cows fart and the impact of cow farts. Why mud frogs croak at night and other money grab crap like that. But when you get the goverment involved and the kickbacks start.The money has a way of just being siphond off. Mike L.

  • sandra

    First, I would like to say that I am not in the top 2% or anywhere near it, but I do believe the tax extensions should be continued for ALL. I believe that everybody should pay their fair share, but I feel that the wealthy go far beyond what is fair. What has happened to the American dream? People should actually get to keep what they work for. In my opinion, the real problem is one-seventh of our nation being on food stamps. I live in Virginia and there are so many people in my community who absolutely refuse to work but think they should be entitled to every entitlement program going. That’s the trouble with entitlement programs. There should be a time and amount limit on welfare. Some single women continue to have children that medicaid has to pay for the birth. They get WIC, Food Stamps, HUD housing, Medicaid, Fuel Assistance, a cut rate on TV, internet, and telephone services, etc. Come on, nobody out there can tell me that this is right. This nation is becoming a nanny state. Many of the welfare recipients are third and fourth generation now. There is no incentive for them to work. I believe there are people who are truly helpless and deserve to be taken care of, but I do not believe the people who refuse to rise up from their back pockets deserve to be handed everything free and clear. Our nation needs to wake up and stop this nonsense. I would like to see more people be able to keep what they work for instead of hand it out to someone who won’t work. These freebies truly is the root of the problem.

    • Don

      Sandra, you are so right, but does anyone have the balls to change this monster around, it certainly won’t be a liberal, maybe Palin ????

  • Maranatha! Mark

    Ask yourselves where is this $858 billion dollars going? Try ear-marks and un-employment! The “Rich” aren’t getting a dime out of this! I did make one mistake above, I thought the estate taxs were being re-implemented the way they used to be when they were 55% of the estate’s value. But even at $5 million dollars level, businesses like car dealers, farms with 1,500 acres or more (which is considered a medium to large sized family farm), and I am talking about this from asset values in the South and Midwest, East and West coast estate values are about 5 to 10 times their value here in the south, so a family farm of about 300 acres could hit the $5 million dollar estimated value, easily, cause it isn’t only the land, but the equipment, buildings and yes, the family farm house are all part of the estate! But no matter what level the set the estate tax to kick in, it is wrong and it is double taxation. It doesn’t make it any more right to tax Rich folks than Poor folks, or anyone in between!

    • TIME

      Maranatha Mark,

      A well written and well taken point. Most’s of the bone heads who can’t grasp the simple fact that even a small business can be worth many millions just in stock, let alone the Jobs that these “SMALL Business” create also add to the overall “end Value”

      But the ones who can’t see the forest through the tree’s due to their “CLASS ENVY” problems will never change its just going to be more of the same old; “Pissing and moaning about the wealthy who are robbing them of their money.”

      Strange no one stepped up to the plate when I came up with my idea to start a small business. I saved my money up, and then I took a Massive chance, I could have lost it all. Or win.
      It worked out that my ideas were solid and worked very well.

      Now for all you bone heads that think that I now owe you something, here’s my quote “BITE ME!”
      I work until September just paying TAX’S so pant loads like many who post here and PISS and MOAN about how I should give them all I have so it will be fair.
      How about you get a job, Or get a life, how about get bloody real. Your the ENVY PIGS, the ones who sit in their own crap and cry that no one will GIVE them anything, how about you work for it, SAVE for it, spend your time doing somethimng constructive.
      Do you really think Nancy PigOsee pays anywhere near the tax’s others who have business pay? If you do your just plain
      “Aggressively Stupid.”

      • Karolyn

        I envy no one. God has taken care of me up to now and will continue to take care of me. I was below the poverty level for several years up until September and am still not reaching middle class; but I have never envied anything anybody has. I am alwys grateful for what I have, no matter what that translates out to be.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Time
        For a long time I have wanted to start my own business and I have a couple of sites in mind for it. One place I can purchase cheap, setup my welding businessto the scale I want, and still divide the bldg for two more businesses and have them pay my payments. I already have my welders, Mig, Tig, and Arc. My oxy/acetylene rig needs to be replaced but that’s only about 450.00. right now working part time I do well but I could do real well going larger. i have good contacts in the area that I have made over the years so I think I’ll try it this spring. I don’t like to sit around and do nothing, so I think that will help as well. I like to weld/work!

      • Karolyn

        You are fortunate, indeed, Joe, to be a man and have that expertise. If you live in a place like I do, men are the only ones who can get ahead with doing work like that and mechanic work. Welding is probably good anywhere. I know because I lived with a multi-talented welder/mechanic/tree cutter/painter/carpenter and he did well no matter where he lived working for himself.

  • Maranatha! Mark

    Obviously the guy writing the article above is a progressive/democrat/socialist. Why would I say this, well because the current bill IS NOT A TAX CUT BILL, it is a bill to prevent tax rates from returning to pre-2001 tax rate levels! The only tax ‘cut’ in the bill is the payroll temporary suspended for a couple of years, just as these tax rates will be temporarily extended for a couple years. This “Tax Cut” spin the national media has been pushing as well as the White House is just a snow job.

    The “Wealthy” or “Rich” who the top 1% of wage earners in this country pay 40% of the total taxes revenues taken in, include most medium and some small business, who make up a large precentage of the actual Job makers in this country. A million dollar gross income isn’t that uncommon for a business that has 20 or more employees, so when these folks are hit with a tax hike, what do you think they do… they cut benefits and/or jobs! When the governments takes a bigger bite, that means less capital for the “Rich” to invest in the businesses that made them “Rich” as well as less capital for those large, medium and a fair number of small businesses to re-invest in expanding their business, giving employee raises and additional benefits, evey HIRING new employees!!! Wow imagine that!

    Back in 1980 the top tax rate was 70% and that top 1% of wage earners paid a total of 19% of the total tax revenues coming into the government coffers. Now with a top Fed tax rate of 35% we have that top 1% paying 40% of the total tax revenues coming in… is any of this getting thru? When Reagan lowered that top tax rate, 10′s of millions of jobs were created, why because the “Rich” folks could make more money by taking that moldie money sitting in their back accounts, and investing it in businesses and make more in profits from those businesses than they could by just collecting interest on their savings!

    So don’t fall for this crap about a ‘Tax Cuts for the Rich’, cause there are none in the bill that just passed, but there is double taxation on a families assets in the estate tax INCREASE! Do you really think that only the “Rich” have something to leave their families?! The average family farm with 300 or more acres is worth more than a million dollars, and when the head of the family dies, and that 35% comes due, do you think the average family farmer (and family) has $350,000 dollars laying around to pay the estate tax! This is property that has been purchased with money that had already been taxed via income tax, so this is essentially a “Double” taxation which is wrong. So what the family has to do, is sell that farm to pay the estate tax! So who buys these family farms? The large corperate farms! Why do the government have any right to force a family to have to sell the farm in order to pay more taxes on assets that have already been paid taxes on before? Wake up folks, and quit whining and jealous of folks who are smarter than you are, and have enough get-up-and-go, and who are willing to work long and hard to make something out of themselves and plan for their families future by reinvesting in their businesses, whether it is buying more land or equipment for the family farm or re-investing in the family grocery store or towing service.

    • hflashman

      “Back in 1980 the top tax rate was 70% and that top 1% of wage earners paid a total of 19% of the total tax revenues coming into the government coffers. Now with a top Fed tax rate of 35% we have that top 1% paying 40% of the total tax revenues coming in… is any of this getting thru?”

      Yep…that any decrease in the top 2% was a waste of time and accomplished nothing but higher taxes for us, larger deficits for us to pay off, and decreased number of businesses and jobs as wealth became concetnrated and not churned in the system.

      • Bleh

        Your math skills are seriously lacking. No wonder this country is so far in debt…

  • http://com i41

    As usual flushman is talking democrap idoiticy! One thing the socialists claim the wealthy getting a tax break that will cost the taxpayers, what a bunck of crap. It just means everyone can keep more of their money in their pockets. Every damn demorat thinks your earning is the government private stash, from Hillary to every damn moron in the National Marxist Communist Democrat Union Socialist party. The lastest BS plan by the US Game Fish & Parks, is to buy up over 2 million acres in the Dakotas and Mt. It is for wildlife, which now is food producing land. Is the freak envior numnutted democrap idoits have any clue where in the hell all of the wheat produced is going to come from? From China, remember the dog and cat die off, from eating wheat middens from China? Russia, Ukrtaine, Astratila, cann’t produce enough to even yake care of themselves. USA used to have at least 6 months of wheat stocks, until 2009, when the democrats were first in control of the Congress, wanted all stocks sold off. When our wheat went from $4.35 a bushel to over $26.00 a bushel for several months. Until wheat harvest started being harvested in June. Of course pavement poundering idoits, like flushmoron, reservation edee, and Karolwhine, or Normie, think raising wildlife for the government is more important. Raising ceral crops by private landowners produces more wild game than the multidegree anal idoits of government employment ever will. It is just another step beinging planned out by Onumnutts and his NMCDUSP radical idoits.

    • eddie47d

      Hey,TIME I think we ought to use some of that tax money and see why i41 “eats so much of his own crap”

    • 45caliber

      I remember a comment here in Texas some years ago.

      We don’t have a state income tax here in this state but many of our politicians believe we should have one.

      A man wrote to one of the politicians and stated, “I know that many of you believe we should have a state income tax. But I want to let you know that there is at least one here who doesn’t believe we should.”

      The politician wrote back (and it was published in a magazine called “Insight”):

      “I understand that there are a lot of misinformed people out there who are against in income tax. But you have to realize that we could do a lot of good if we were allowed to use this vast untapped money that no one is using to build up our state.”

      I thought it interesting that he, a politician, considered that no one was using their income. It was just sitting there, wasted, as far as he was concerned.

      • Bob Wire

        Selling one’s soul to the devil since it wasn’t being used makes more sense! LOL!

  • Doc Sarvis

    The GOP got what it wanted; they protected thier fat-cat constituency and had no concern about addressing our growing deficit in any meaningful way.

    • Bleh

      Newsflash fat-cats are in both parties.

      You see:
      The DNC got what it wanted; they protected their fat-cat constituency and had no concern about addressing our growing deficit in any meaningful way.

      So, now that we know the GOP and DNC both got what they wanted and both harbor fat-cats, what’s your point exactly?

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Bleh,
        BING freakin O!!!

  • Frederick H

    It’s always the same story with the super-wealthy here in this country. Enough seems to be a word they’ve eliminated from there dictionaries forever. No, folks it’s not government wanting more, more, more. It’s the top 2% income thieves who’re really totally obsessed with stuffing their already way overstuffed bank accounts to the detriment of the middle and lower income groups, A disgrace to America, these money blood hounds most of whom even dare to call themselves devout “Christians”. Ughhh

    • eddie47d

      I agree Frederick but neither side won and now we have more debt. (seen and unseen)

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Fredrick,
      Do you honestly only think the top 2% only have 5million to leave to their kids??? How many BILLION does Bill Gates have?? How many HUNDRED millions does Warren Buffet have?? % million is chump change to the top 2%!!! These 5million inheritances could come from selling a 5 or 600 acre FARM for cripes sake!! Get real for cripes sake!!!

  • William Glammeyer

    What really bothers me is the greed! The government wants their 2nd and 3rd ‘piece of the pie’ from everybody. They are not satisfied with one piece. They want more, more, more! So why not keep re-taxing the same money over and over that someone has worked for and wants to leave to someone else? Then, when that person wants to leave some money to someone, it gets taxed again! Is it because the person receiving the money has not paid taxes on it yet? But if the money has already been taxed, why should it be taxed again? Now, if I understand the tax rate, if you start with $5,000,000 (5 Million) and none is ever spent, after it has been handed down just 10 times, you are left with less than $15,000 (15 Thousand)! Somehow, that just does not seem right! Am I missing something here? (Besides my money?)

    • hflashman

      Every time money changes hands it is subject to taxation. Simple concept, simple to follow.

      • ValDM

        No, that’s how your version of Utopia will be funded. I don’t feel like I want to pay, pay, pay until I die. What this bill represents is not an extension of Bush’s tax cuts, but a SPENDING bill. 13 more months of unemployment? Are you kidding me? Flashy, you really dislike wealth. You’ve made absolutely no bones about that. But I’m not wealthy and can’t afford ANYMORE SPENDING in ANY FORM.

      • HFlashman

        ValDM…that’s the basis for our entire tax system since creation. It’s an easy concept to follow. Every time a dollar changes hands, it’s subject to taxation. Nothing to do with anything other than that’s the concept. Jeesh …

      • http://?? Joe H.

        ValDM,
        It’s just more to sweeten flushed’s welfare pot!!! He’s lookin for an inheritance for his NEXT generation as well as himself!!

      • http://foundersrevolution.blogspot.com/ Patriot1776

        You should move to Greece. They would love you there!

    • 45caliber

      Actually, the government believes that anything you own actually belongs to them. All they are doing is being generous by allowing your heirs part of what you had when you died. After all, as far as they are concerned, they should be taking all of it.

  • TIME

    I have spoken with my Congress and Senate people, Its odd that only the Congressman see’s this as absurd too, whats that say?

    Its saddly all over folks but for the clean up and thats not long in coming now. We have allowed this behavior for so long now they just take it for granted that they tell you what you will get. Not you tell them what you want.

    So how about $20 Billion to study why frogs fart? How about You the tax payers set up a trust for the Kennedys? I mean after all they don’t have any money now do they? Only when you crack open a bottle of Scotch they have already made 1/3 of what you paid.
    Oh the horror of how bad off the Kennedys are.

    And just so you get a good slap in the face, how about a Bart Stupidpack Trust fund set up?

    Lets sepnd a billon on looking into why dogs will est their own crap, now thats an idea thats long over due. Afterall as Tax payers struggle to make ends meet, that money is going to a good cause.
    I mean really don’t you question whats in dog food that would compel a dog to eat its own crap? Must be good stuff!!!!!!!!!

    How about we just let DC Belt way Crooks have all the money YOU make and they then can tell you what you can have for your labor.
    Afterall thats whats been going on for the last 100 years, and we have all let it slide, so why are we now asking what the Hell?

    So just pack up your stuff and send it to congress, send them your 401K’s your CD’s your stocks, your bonds, your art works, your gold & Silver, your homes, your cars, hell you don’t need any of these things now do you, really now do you????????? You let them drug your kids, teach them nothing and pay a lot for it.

    Afterall thats just what Chuckie Schumer said, its their money, and stuff, not yours.

    People you want smaller government, well you all waited way to long to make that happen.
    So welcome to the New World Order, where you will live as long as your allowed to, eat what your told to eat, drink what your told to drink, go where your told to go.
    AND best OF ALL, YOU DON’T EVEN HAVE TO THINK ABOUT ANYTHING.
    Its all done for you.

    Now don’t you forget to send the Government your stuff by January 1st 2011, so the puppet’s can tell his masters they done did it!!

    • bill

      very well put MARK…..

    • http://none Mike

      Time, How many here will even get what you said anymore? There will be a few I am sure.I think the only way some will realise it is when Uncle Sam is standing at the door with a gun to take their stuff. And when that happens it will be far to late. Mike L.

      • TIME

        Mike, Words with more wisdom have not been spoken.

        Merry Christmas and have a Blessed & Safe New Years

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Mike,
        you know what the real funny thing is??? theres progs out there that will still be smiling a month after they come and take by gun point from them!!! They’re too damn stupid to realize they have just been ripped off by the very people they have trusted for the last two years as well as the repubs!!

      • http://none Mike

        Joe, I know. But what they do not relise if they are the welfare progressives. Is the fact that when Uncle Sam comes to the door it might not be teir stuff that he has come after.Mike L.

  • 45caliber

    Politics as usual.

    I said a day or so ago that the GOP was so interested in getting the tax cut thing passed that they were ignoring everything else. They just wanted to get some points in. WRONG! They should have shot down this fiasco and waited until next year with the new Congress.

    But I’ll bet there will be quite a number of dislocated arms today as they pat themselves on the back!

    • Bob Wire

      yea 45, but theses end zone celebrations are being short lived it seems.

      It’s easy to lose and win all at the same time.

      Things are kinda tricky out there today. This calculated gamble on 44′s part has brought out the devil and exposed somethings.

      One things for sure, the impasse has briefly been breached and things are starting to move again. Somebody is going to get squashed! and it could be “O”! I see it as a sacrifice play and kind of messy.

      40 loafs & 40 fish’s can only be divided so many time without divine assistance

      • 45caliber

        Right. And the GOP sold their votes on Dem pork for very little in return.

      • Karolyn

        And it wasn’t only Dem pork. I saw a repub senator being asked repeatedly about his own earmarks in the bill, and he refused to give a definitive response, saying only that he was voting against it. What?

  • http://none Mike

    What a mess. Can these guys get nothing right? The bill is so toploaded with pork that any benifit we see from it is going to be offset. Its been a last minuet scramble from the git-go to see how much spending would be tolarated in this bill. Meanwhile the american people are held hostage to political wrangleing.This will probly pass in some form because its the only compromise allowed between extending un-employment and keeping taxes from destroying whats left of our economy.Mike L.

    • Mick

      Mike says:
      December 17, 2010 at 12:42 am
      What a mess. Can these guys get nothing right? The bill is so toploaded with pork that any benifit we see from it is going to be offset.
      >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
      Mike….It’s always the same crap,,,I’ll scratch yours if you scratch mine……….
      This is got to stop if America is to survive..
      certain things are not to be compromised, the republicans have to stand firm on the tax cut but even more important have to stand against the spending.

    • hflashman

      Loaded with pork? The biggest (and literally only) pig in the poke is the continued subsidy to the wealthy. That alone should take this bill out to the trash heap. Everyone receives an extension of the temporary tax rates and then…piling continued subsidy of the wealthy, the last remaining 1% receive additional breaks…costing this Nation $600 billion for that last remaining 1%.

      Disgusting. Unemployed, relief for small business, all were held in disdain by the corruption of the GOP by the elite walth cotrolling their decisions.

      And you cheer as we sink deeper into debt to pay for the wealthy becoming more so…with little to gain but the “privilege” of transferring more of our money into the hands of the few ..the few who do’t need it except to keep us from having anything to free ourselves from the tightening bonds of a oligarchical system utterly controlled by a very few holding the gold.

      Disgusting. As is any thought they deserve such sibsidy and homage.

      • S.C.Murf

        Flash I agree, except for the fact that it is both the repubs and dems that are pushing it thru. They ALL need to go.

      • Bob Wire

        good come back Flash ! let’s do talk about this pork!

        This bill and the reaction to it, test the steel of any true conservative.

        This tells us many things, mostly where our biggest problem is at the moment with notions of conservatism, the US Senate!

        They are willing to plunge us deeper in debt to maintain status quo, while willing to protest a 13.8 Trillion Nation Debt and the welfare of future generations only where it serves their best interest today.

        In the last 2 years the senate as blocked much reform in the name of conservatism and today they behave like drunken sailors on shore leave in Tokyo after a 6 month tour of duty.

        I don’t know where this is going to go, but I see it as a laying down a marker and put your money where your mouth is. Let it be known to all where you really stand.

        If government is the problem and private enterprise the solution there is other ways to proceed. Without some assurance where the wealthy is willing to spend this windfall, I see little hope in it changing our economic condition while we plunge only deeper in debt. This has been tried already.

        But with that said, there other ways of offering the wealthy incentives to make and have and do without just handing them over cash. This should not be seen a “class warfare” but opportunities offered to increase their dragon horde by engaging in American interest, addressing today’s demands. There is much work to do and they will do well.

        We need to be mindful of the wealthy and their needs as they need to be mindful of a nation of people that serve them, the tax load should be a balanced and not all on the backs of the wealthy.

        I feel as some tax reform is in order today as we have many that pay nothing! While I believe the poorest of the poor should be allow to contribute and pay something, it not fair to them that they can’t. Every working American needs to feel as if they are a part of what’s happening in America today.

      • EDWARD

        Hey, Barb Wire, we don’t serve anyone! We toil to provide and better ourselves and our dependents. We do it for compensation. We serve no-one, as no-one serves us, and we do it for selfish reasons. Good selfish reasons, not thieving reasons. And we should not care about the wealthy, but care about achieveing our own wealth, however one defines it.

        A-FLIPPING-MEN.

    • Rick

      These pseudo intellectuals are the only ones who can disguise an extension of present tax rates as a “TAX CUT” with several hundred pages of male bovine fesces. I could have written this bill on one page in less than an hour, with “NO” amendments!

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