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Obama's Foreign Policy: Plain Stupid Or Darkly Sinister?

December 8, 2010 by  

Obama's Foreign Policy: Plain Stupid Or Darkly Sinister?

Forget Obamacare. With the way the world is spiraling out of control, we could be staring at deathcare. That’s my concern after seeing the latest WikiLeaks document releases which reveal a reckless President in Barack Obama.

The irony in Obama’s actions could almost be comical if they were not so damned scary. After all, the man once hailed as the Peace President — they even gave him “The Prize” — is making foreign policy decisions the way President Lyndon Johnson might have if he had been smoking crystal meth.

Last week we learned not only of the failure of Obama’s foreign policy, but also that his administration has been deliberately deceiving the American public regarding affairs with Muslim governments.

Iran: The Unspoken Crisis
Last week WikiLeaks released more than 250,000 documents. The information is as surprising as it is immense (216 million words in all). It includes the truth about Obama; that he has been talking closely about eliminating Iran’s nuclear weapons program. Those talks have been ongoing not with Israel, but with perhaps an even more important Obama ally: Saudi Arabia. To top it off, the new WikiLeaks provide confirmation that Saudi Arabia is still funding Islamic terrorism. It sounds like a Tom Clancy novel.

Unlike the George W. Bush administration — which constantly warned of the threat that Saddam Hussein posed with weapons of mass destruction — the Obama administration has said nary a word to the American people about Iran, which after all is a much larger and more credible threat than Iraq ever was.

According to Sever Plocker, a columnist for the Tel Aviv newspaper Yediot Ahronot, WikiLeaks strongly suggests the world is in peril. According to Plocker, "The massive leak of American diplomatic telegrams indicates a single picture, sharp and clear… (That) the entire world, not just Israel, is panicked over the Iranian nuclear program.”

Last week The Christian Science Monitor wrote: “Beyond the momentary public relations dividend, one Israeli veteran of diplomacy said the widespread fear of Iran among America’s Arab allies does not bode well for the Obama administration’s foreign policy — particularly its efforts to engage Iran diplomatically.”

America’s foreign policy is a disaster, contends Shlomo Avineri, a political science professor at Hebrew University and a former director general of the Israeli Foreign Ministry.

"When Obama decided on negotiating with Iran, he was doing exactly the opposite of what the American allies are thinking,” said Avineri, adding, "Obama has made all of his friends nervous, and the Iranians are spitting in his face."

It is not just the Jews that are upset about Obama’s recklessness. According to Sir Simon Jenkins in the U.K. newspaper, The Guardian, “It is looking to many in the world that the world’s superpower is roaming helpless in a world in which nobody behaves as bidden."

The German newspaper Der Spiegel described the latest WikiLeaks as indicative of "a political meltdown for American foreign policy. Leaving the trust by America’s partners… badly shaken."

Most troubling is that under Obama’s leadership the United States enlisted some very unsavory partners.

Pakistan On The Brink
The latest evidence also shows that the Obama administration is determined to send billions of dollars in aid to Pakistan and enlist it in fighting the Afghan war, even though Washington believes that Pakistan cannot be trusted with nuclear weapons.

Included in the latest batch of WikiLeaks releases is a cable that describes a "dangerous standoff" with Pakistan over nuclear fuel. Last year the U.S. Ambassador to Islamabad, Anne Patterson, reported that Pakistan was refusing to schedule a visit by American technical experts because, as a Pakistani official said, "If the local media got word of the fuel removal, they certainly would portray it as the United States taking Pakistan’s nuclear weapons."

Pakistan’s Foreign Ministry even refused to allow U.S. officials to visit a nuclear reactor that the United States helped build in the 1960s. "We said no, because it’s now our property, and we will not return it," said a Pakistani official.

According to Abdul Basit, Pakistan’s Foreign Ministry spokesperson, "This only shows that Pakistan is very sensitive about its nuclear program… (That) no one can touch Pakistan’s nuclear facilities and assets."

We learn that Israel is very nervous about world events, and with good reason. WikiLeaks reports a conversation between Mossad chief Meir Dagan and U.S. counterterrorism Chief Frances Townsend to discuss their concerns about Pakistan falling into the hands of Islamic radicals.

Dagan characterizes a Pakistan ruled by radical Islamists with a nuclear arsenal at their disposal as the world’s biggest nightmare; that Al-Qaeda or another "Global Jihad" might be quick to pull the trigger on Pakistan’s nuclear gun.

And we learn that Pakistan is Israel’s President Ehud Barak’s "private nightmare." According to WikiLeaks, Obama is deeply concerned that the world will wake up one day and find "everything changed" in the wake of an Islamic extremist takeover in Pakistan.

WikiLeaks makes it apparent that the Obama administration is treating Pakistan with kid gloves. For example, Washington is even worried how Islamabad might respond if the U.S. were to use force to destroy Iran’s nuclear program. However, revelations about the Obama administration’s mismanagement regarding Pakistan are not new.

In his recent blockbuster, Obama’s Wars, Bob Woodward pointed out just how fragile the leadership in Islamabad has grown with Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari, who is convinced that the Obama administration is plotting to overthrow and even occupy Pakistan.

Woodward writes:

One evening during the trilateral summit, Zardari had dinner with Zalmay Khalilzad, the 58-year-old former U.S. ambassador to Afghanistan, Iraq and the U.N. during the Bush presidency.

Zardari dropped his diplomatic guard. He suggested that one of two countries was arranging the attacks by the Pakistani Taliban inside his country: India or the U.S. Zardari didn’t think India could be that clever, but the U.S. was behind the attacks, confirming the claims made by the Pakistani ISI (Inter-Services Intelligence).

“Mr. President,” Khalilzad said, “what would we gain from doing this? You explain the logic to me.”

This was a plot to destabilize Pakistan, Zardari hypothesized, so that the U.S. could invade and seize its nuclear weapons.

There you have it; the leader of America’s most important ally on the War on Terror believes that WE are the terrorists. Wikileaks also revealed that Saudi King Abdullah has spoken contemptuously of Zardari. Abdullah has called Zardari the greatest obstacle to peace in the region, and was quoted as saying: "When the head is rotten, it affects the whole body."

I haven’t even touched on Afghanistan and the ongoing war over there, which is looking to be unwinnable. Last week the publication Foreign Policy warned: “Obama’s goal in reaching out to the Muslim world has always had both short-term and long-term dimensions.”

One can choose to believe that Obama is more hapless than Jimmy Carter on his worst day. Either that, or entertain the notion that something more sinister is at work. I myself can’t say it is the latter, although one thing is certain: Obama is creating…

A Perfect Storm For Gold
Obama promised to restore world confidence in the United States. But two years after taking office, he has done the opposite. On the domestic front, he has mounted inflationary strategies, while U.S. foreign policy has been a series of missteps that are breaking the confidence of traditional allies. The Obama administration has in fact spied on Western diplomats while secretly working deals with Arab leaders; some of whom have malevolent intentions towards the United States.

All of this is undermining the U.S. dollar and putting a springboard beneath the price of gold. Is the world on the brink of war? I don’t know. The better part of me says not. But world tensions are building, and there has been a complete lack of leadership by the Obama administration. Of that I am convinced. I fear that Obama may be like the great German strategist Otto von Bismarck. More than a century ago, Bismarck’s power-politics and the resulting entanglements led to the First World War. We can only hope that America’s President doesn’t push us towards a Third World War.

Action To Take
We may see some further correction in the price of gold from its November high of $1,421 per ounce on the London Fix. We may even see the price breakdown below $1,300 per ounce, but there is support between $1,123 and $1,187 per ounce London prices. Given the macroeconomic fundamentals (the Federal Reserve purchases of U.S. Treasuries) and growing instability around the world — in large part because of the Obama administration — I expect to see bullion at $1,800 to $2,200 per ounce before the end of 2011. Therefore I urge you to hang on to gold and, if possible, even add to your position.

Yours for future wealth and happiness,

John Myers
Myers Energy And Gold Report

John Myers

is editor of Myers’ Energy and Gold Report. The son of C.V. Myers, the original publisher of Oilweek Magazine, John has worked with two of the world’s largest investment publishers, Phillips and Agora. He was the original editor for Outstanding Investments and has more than 20 years experience as an investment writer. John is a graduate of the University of Calgary. He has worked for Prudential Securities in Spokane, Wash., as a registered investment advisor. His office location in Calgary, Alberta, is just minutes away from the headquarters of some of the biggest players in today’s energy markets. This gives him personal access to everyone from oil CEOs to roughnecks, where he learns secrets from oil insiders he passes on to his subscribers. Plus, during his years in Spokane he cultivated a network of relationships with mining insiders in Idaho, Oregon and Washington.

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  • Disabled Veteran Brian

    I agree, better to know, Jo, and then act…impeach this fool.

  • pennsyltuckian

    I do not believe Ovomit is stupid but he is EVIL. If he could do it I have no doubt that he would make Stalin and Hitler look like humanitarians in the way he treats those who oppose him. I believe he looks to Iran and Venezuela for guidance on how to deal with opponents and the media. The FCC proposals mimic the work of Chavez.

    • Bob Wire

      and you know Evil first hand?

      • FireMall

        It’s called “Know Thine Enemy as One would know Thyself”
        Or: Fight Fire “With” Fire.
        Haven’t you ever learned how Detectives figure out “Who Dun It” ??

      • Bob Wire

        in your case , you are your worst enemy.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        And let it be noted, that evil always sides with evil, and good always sides with good. Hmmm. Your true colors seem to have been exposed Robert.

  • JoMama

    WHY are the US citizens letting him (Obama) get away with all this?? All of this is treason!! All of this is WRONG.

    I guess this really is the beginning of the end.

    PEOPLE – it is not racist that we disagree with this president of ours. He is going AGAINST the people’s will.

    THIS IS NOT WHY HE IS THERE!!!

    By the way – Wikileaks IS the best thing to happen to all of us. NOW WE KNOW!!!

    • castaway

      You are correct about Wikileaks, as it is the best thing to happen in a long time, It has proven that what we believed all along, is that our government is as dihonest and corrupt as the Mafia they like to arrest.

    • http://poehw@comcast.net Flip one over

      Why is this guy still president? and further more to take the progressive view one step further, if his wife acted and said the things Sara Palin says with a progressive tone we would need a telescope to see her as her throne would be that high.

      • Bob Wire

        Hmm? ~~ his term is not up? and his wife and children are “off bounds” to your watchful eye.

      • FireMall

        WRONG AGAIN –”BOB”
        Michelle “O” opened her fat azzed self into “Justified” Public Scrutiny when “SHE” decided to take Control / Legislate what “WE” & Our Children eat.
        Not too unlike what Hillary did when “She” attempted to legislate Hillarycare [ now called Obamacare } down “We The People’s” throats when “She” wrote & introduced legislative bills without being “Elected” First. I bet Hillary is Furious about Obama getting credit for “Her” Healthcare legislation.
        At least Michelle was “Progressively” Intelligent enough to get a “Punk Senator” to introduce her bill for her.
        Who says Progressives don’t learn from their Historical Mistakes ??
        Michelle still got Credit for her Socialist Bill. Too bad for the senator that actually got it run thru . However, I’m sure he was well compensated for his efforts–In ways & amounts the Taxpayers will never know.

      • eddie47d

        You are extremely disrespectful towards Michelle. Laura Bush was deeply involved in children’s education and spoke openly about it. The No Child Left Behind Act may have failed in it’s mission but the message was clear. No one went around and put Laura down (fat azz) like you have shown. Take your slime machine and get out of Dodge.

      • Kate8

        eddie – If Michelle was worthy of respect, she’d get it.

        She’s not fit to be in the same sentence as Laura Bush. Laura is a lady. Michelle is not. She is just another power-crazed communist.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Michelle Obama is a street ho that is enjoying spending our money as fast and as often as she can. Never before has the “N” word been used so much and so often in the White House. That woman is as street as it gets, and anyone that can see that just from hearing her talk, is not paying attention. Talk about someone feeling the world owes them a living. She has never been proud to be an American. Then leave you piece of trash.

      • Karolyn

        Beberoni – You know nothing about Michelle Obama. How can you call her a “street ho.” For all intents and purposes, she seems like a lovely lady and a good mother. Why would you stoop to using a degrading comment like that? Why do you find ulterior motives in everybody?

      • eddie47d

        These conservatives love spreading their wicked rancor.

      • Claire

        I will never call the First Lady of the United States a filthy name. As far as I am concerned, I am proud to say America had two lovely First Ladies. Jacquie Kennedy and Laura Bush.

  • Tim L.

    Let’s not forget to thank Bush/Cheney for the mess that the world is in. You can throw stones at President Obama until Hell freezes over, but that doesn’t change the fact that Bush/Cheney arrogantly and stupidly destabilized the middle east!

    • castaway

      Are you not yet tired of total darkness and feces in your face,and up your nose, and the constant gassing you get,brrrrraap ????? Better pull your head from your anal canal while you still can. LMAO

      • http://poehw@comcast.net Flip one over

        The world and the U.S shall never forget George W. Bush and his VP. for the clever response to world events that this great president had thrust upon him, due 1000% to his predesesor, and never one time tried to put the blame on anyone. unlike Mr. Vomit, Mr. Bush is a statesman, an scholar, and a gentleman, just as a president should be.
        The world feared Mr. Bush and blows smoke up the nose of this one they call the president.

      • Karolyn

        A SCHOLAR????? He was lead by the nose by Mr. Halliburton-Cheney.

      • Doug

        Karolyn can you me where this is proven? GB did his own thing he listen to his advisers then made the tough decisions. Unlike the dung in the WH who could not figure out how to check out a cart of food from the supermaket.

      • Karolyn

        Well, can you give me where everything you write is proven? Come on, Bush was the butt of everybody’s jokes about is intellectual abilities; and it was common knowledge that Cheney was pulling the strings. He was the father/adviser. And look at his buddy Rumsfeld. Another wacko.

      • Bob Wire

        That’s correct “W” listen to “his” people and ignored pentagon bass.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        No Karolyn, Bush was not the butt of everyones jokes. He was the butt of the liberal left wing media and liberal left wing hollywood tribes, as anyone not on the left, who is doing the right thing, is a target of them. The more popular and more successful, the bigger the attack. This is true as true can be. And the attack you state about his intellect, is nothing more than a racist attack on his Texas accent. You go to Texas, and thats the drawl they talk with, and just as with southern people and their accent, it is a big mistake to deem someone dumb or un-intelligent because of the way they speak. When Bush spoke, all could tell it was heartfelt, and what he really meant. And he actually did what he said he was going to do. And he actually kicked the butt of our know enemies, and made them back off. Would you rather he sat there like Clinton, defiling his wife, family and country, and demeaning women right and left, and not do anything while our enemies attacked us again and again and again? No way. Inaction is the worst thing, and Clinton practiced it again and again and again, which allowed them to roam around and put into place the events of 9-11. Of course, Clinton cutting our intelligence agencies in half contributed greatly to this also. But Mr. Bush has a backbone, and he stood up for this great country and struck back. Once again, terrorist nations feared us. We have been save since then. However, while this current admin is sleeping, I will tell you that there are terrorist that have come here since Bush left, feeling safe under another democrat reign, and they will be setting up something to blow up, and it probably will happen during the next term that will be undoubtedly served by a Republican, and it will all have been made possible by this current admin sleeping at the switch, again. I thank God often for George W. Bush, and you know Karolyn, time tells the tale of true history, just as more and more damning things keep coming out about Bill Clinton, revealing him to be the leper that he was and is, and more and more as time passes will it come out as to how great George W. Bush was for this country and how he saved us. But for now, the liberal press wont do it, because they have no interest in the truth if it glorifies anyone but the left wing liberals. You know that is true and so do all of us with any level of education. The left wing liberal media sought to discredit Bush and attack him, more than any media has ever attacked a president, because he was so successful. Thats how it was and you cant change it.

      • Karolyn

        I would never say Bush was a bad man, just not very smart. He seems like a likeable enough guy. I live in the south, so I know accents. Generally, the more educated a person is, the less accent they have because they have the desire to speak properly. I have nothing against those less educated or those who are slower who don’t care about bettering themselves.

      • eddie47d

        Mr Bush is the cleaver one in covering up his dastardly deeds.(Iraq War and Patriot Act) Shades of Nixon who always used patriotism and our flag to hide behind his wicked dealings. That does not make a man honorable.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        You are satans emissary eddie. Mr. Bush was a great president, a great American and a great patriot. My family and myself are safe today because of him. Had we stayed on Clintons path of letting them blow up everything they wanted without doing anything to make them stop, we would probably all be dead today. Thank God for George W. Bush and his courage in saving losers like you also, along with the rest of us. Thank you Mr. Bush for your service to us all.

      • blv54

        it’s easy to think of bush fondly since we have such an idiot in the white house now but the truth is he was a wicked man who did a lot of harm to this country, I do believe he knew 9/11 was coming and it was a big conspiracy from the start for a lot of the horrible things that have come from it, it took all our freedoms got us into never ending wars and grew government to monster proportions all to push us into NWO I remember ole bush sneering on CNN life will never be the same again, well it isn’t is it, him and his skull and bones membership and his hatred for the constitution plus he didn’t really win the election gore did bush just stole it with help from his brother who was conveniently governor of florida at the time, I can’t wait for the Lord to come back and sort all of the evil out especially those in washington who have destroyed this once great country and turned it evil when they kicked God out of society it was all downhill from there and the last 5 presidents have all lied about being christians just to get in office and all of them have evil fruit.

    • http://gunner689 gunner689

      tim: you’re right, Bush and Cheney flew those planes into the World Trade Centers. Satan transpoted them at the last minute back to Washington.
      In the real world the problems in the Middle East, modern times, have been going on since the break up of the Ottoman Empire by England at the end of WW1. Most of those mid east countries sided with our enemies in both world wars. The PLO and Arrafat jacked up the problems with the debacle at the Munich games and subsequent airline highjackings of the 70′s. Israel made a big mistake when after whipping their ass they let them escape to Cyprus by ship. Those ships should have been sunk at sea.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Seriously, who writes your material, Keith Olberman? Chris Matthews? Come on man. The middle east is more stable now that it was 10 years ago. However, with Obama mishandling things in Iraq daily, and not talking to his generals for 6 weeks at a time, they are going to make it all fall apart and become a huge mess, so they can point fingers you know. I mean, had he stayed on course, and it succeeded the way it was going, that would be bad for the democrats. They said so in national interviews. Listen up son. Its stable now. But who knows after 4 years of Obama admin mismanagement, I dont hold much hope for it now. I call it sabotage. I mean they cant do anything to make themselves look good, so lets sabotage the war effort to blame it on Bush, and that will make us look better. Its sad, but thats all they got Tim. Thats all theyve got.

  • Disabled Veteran Brian

    Barrack Obama is the Antichrist predicted long ago. He is leading the US to debt ridden chaos, and the rest of the world to war. In no other circumstance except outright war does he have any chance of any re election. I am not speaking of the two wars he is currently promoting, but war in the Mid East, the Korean peninsula, and several other spots. My birth certificate is less than ten feet from me. Where is his?

    Despite all promises from the current lunatic in the White House, he has not ended the wars we are in or fixed the economy or done anything except mire us more helplessly in debt, being completely clueless about economics, and too arrogant to accept non partisan advice. I am also a dumb hillbilly, but my shooting iron is well oiled.

    • S.C.Murf

      Good post

      up the hill
      airborne

    • Bob Wire

      yea right!

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      He is not the anti-christ, I assure you of that. He is just a misguided man, being led by a misguided party. Thats it. The anti christ will come and will be a great peacemaker. He will be accepted by all and be a leader that gullible people will willingly follow to their death. He will make fire come from the sky and fool a lot of people into following him. Obama is not this guy. I know. My Bible tells me I will know him, and its not Obama. He is just a misguided man.

      • Claire

        Beberoni–You are correct. Obama is NOT the anti-Christ. When the anti-Christ finally arrives we will KNOW it.

  • Bruce D.

    Obama said during the election he was going to sit down with Amadenajad and work everything out. He said it was all Bush’s fault and was something he could work out just by talking. He said the problem was Bush’s refusal to talk to Iran. I also notice he is not planning to be part of the six party talks with N. Korea. What happen to the strategy of making all our foreign policies problems with these two countries go away with some one on one. Really Armadenajad has been begging Obama to talk as he wants to humiliate Obama in public.

  • s c

    Who gives a @#%* what the answer is? This prez is so far over his head that delusions are to him what drugs are to an addict. Most likely, this prez went to Washington to carry out the orders of whatever group temporarily holds America’s power controls. In effect, this prez is a puppet who’s trying to please his master(s).
    Braindead hordes (including media whores) will support whatever he says, regardless of whether or not not someone else actually ‘created’ those plans. Hype, packaging and utopian theories are accurate terms that properly define this asinine administration.
    As far as the Iran issue is concerned, everything is hype and empty threats until someone is stupid enough to try and destroy Jerusalem. When that happens, all rules are void, and life on this planet will get interesting in a hurry.

    • castaway

      s.c you really said a mouthful this time, and all very true indeed. Thanks for the good post.

    • Kate8

      s c – You tell it straight!

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Jerusalem is the whole key that many overlook. When the golden dome of the muslim mosque, referred to in the Bible as the “Temple of Obamination” gets tore down, and the people start rebuilding God’s Temple again, then it is really, really close to the end. Soon around that time, the anti-Christ will be revealed, and those of us who know Christ, will recognize him and know him. But in Jerusalem, even you non believers who do not read your Bibles or know of Jesus Christ, watch for the golden dome in Jerusalem to come down. Its not long after that, that it is all coming to a crash.

  • Ken

    David D – When will you be leaving? Please inform all of us of your flight number and airline so we can be there to applaud your noble and courageous act.

    Come to think of it, Streisand, Baldwin and others said the same thing years ago…..

  • http://msn Kerri

    If the Constitution is the supreme law of the land and our President is surcumventing it for his own agenda, is that not an impeachable offence?

    • castaway

      Yes it is, and only congress can impeach the president. Do you think this congress would do that??

      • Teresa

        Correct!

  • http://bjwholmes@verizon.net bjholmes

    God can save us. We need Him.

    • castaway

      God will not save us from this, as it is part of his plan. Only we can save ourselves. That is written, and has been told to us over and over again and again, yet most do not “get it”.

      • eddie47d

        Since you said “The only good Muslim is a dead one” you have no credibility and especially with God.

      • Kate8

        eddie – You speak for God now?

      • eddie47d

        You do plenty and it’s in the same Book you read.

      • Kate8

        Wrong, eddie. I admit that my opinions and thoughts are all my own. Unless I’m quoting Scripture, and then it’s still my interpretation.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        There is a day when God will speak where all will hear, and he will tell all those that have not accepted Jesus Christ as their saviour, that He will send them into the lake of fire, where they will never hear his name again. There is only one name by which we are saved, the name of Jesus Christ the Lord. Thats it. Now if muslims start asking Jesus into their lives, and they convert to Christianity, which is being a follower of Christ, then they can inherit heaven. If they dont, they will burn. It is written, “If you have the Son, you have the Father, if you do not have the Son, you do not have the Father”. So you can say its the same God all you want, but the prayers go on empty ear, when you pray to God, and discount Jesus Christ and his sacrifice on the cross for us, to bridge the gap to God. Without it, your prayers are not heard. You dont like this, take it up with God, He set it up this way, not I. I just try to do what He instructs me to do, and it sure as heck isnt killing a mall full of people I dont know then He will reward me with 7 virgins. Come one man, what kind of sick and twisted evil is that? Thats straight from the bowels of satan, thats what that is.

      • Bill

        The one upstairs will chose from all the world those who chose him, not just American or Chinese or Israelite, but those who are his, we may not even know if I will go or my neighbor? I agree all by his plan, when the wind blows as in the end time those of war it will serperat the good grain from the chaff and he will chose. I notice two doctrines, one that a new heaven and earth will be formed and another where the one we have will be rebuilt. it sees both have a place at different times. For no one knows the hour.

      • PacificRim

        “What the eye sees and the ear hears, the mind will believe” Harry Houdini also:

        “There is nothing covered up that will not be revealed, and hidden that will not be known. Accordingly, whatever you have said in the dark will be heard in the light, and what you have whipered in the inner rooms will be proclaimed upon the housetops.” Luke 12: 2-3

      • Teresa

        AMEN

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Amen brother. No one knows when He will come, but it will be like a thief in the night when no one expects it. So the advice He is giving here, is make sure your ready for Him. Prepare the way, for you do not want to be caught not ready on this one.

    • Warlord X

      I highly recommend that those of you who can think and understand should read Mr. Walter E. Williams’ essay entitled “Moral or immoral government”
      http://patriotpost.us/opinion/walter-e-williams/2010/12/08/moral-or-immoral-government/

      If you are not a subscriber or supporter of this newsletter, you should be.

      On another note, some of you need to re-read (and correct} the typing and spelling in your posts. Failure to do so makes you appear ignorant and sloppy. For the liberals who feel compelled to post here, I appreciate an opposing view if it is based and supported with facts, not BS. Otherwise, I and others, would like you to go play somewhere else. It is painful to observe your ‘aggressive stupidity’ and ignorance.
      DE OPPRESSO LIBER

    • hflashman

      Whose god are you talking about? There are so many to choose from … even if you narrow down to the christian ones

      • S.C.Murf

        The one true living God

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Just as in the Old Testament, where all the false gods were destroyed and done away with, there is a day when Jesus Christ will come, and he will do away will all the false gods. Some peoples god is money. Some is fame and power. Some is sex. Some is violence. Some is a big fat gold guy. They all will be done away with, when the living God, Jesus Christ, comes and forms His new Kingdom in the New Earth, where there will be no more death or pain and sorrow. Sound familiar? It will be just like the Garden of Eden, pefect without sin the way God designed it, before man screwed it all up. That day is coming again. Please get ready hflashman. Id like to meet you in there, and give you a hug and say “welcome my brother”.

      • Claire

        Beberoni— Well spoken and I agree.

  • http://gmail.com david desmond

    better to talk WITH Iran than threaten it the way Bushy did. It seems many of the people leaving comments are racist and anti Islamic. The US is suppose to be for equality of race and religion. Obama is not a Muslim. He was born in the USA and is a Christian. I didn’t vote for him but I won’t call him a slut like one of your dumb hillbilly contributors did. I don’t know how anyone can complain about Obama and the US Constitution. Do you realize that when Bushy first came into office NONE of our votes counted? he was appointed. where was the outrage then. Then he gave us 911 and the war in Iraq etc etc. We get losers here in the USA. Both liberals and these neocons morons are losers. Enjoy America, I’m moving out. You people are sickos.

    • TIME

      David,

      Don’t let the door hit you in the butt on the way out.

    • castaway

      First and foremost idiot, let me tell you that Islam is not a religion. It is a hateful,demonic,murderous cult, using a fake religion as a mask. It is also clear that you are on the verge of total mental collapse, and insanity. Bush is not the one who created 911 or Afhganistan. The Muslims attacked us and killed almost 3000 Americans. Muslims are public enemy no.1 and are causing world wide panic. ALL MUSLIMS ARE BAD! The only good ones are dead. You can take that to the bank. The muslims will also be the cause of World War3. You cannot reason with madmen like Kim jung Ill, or Armadenajad, so why even bother.

    • tori

      Just because someone disagrees with this President doesn’t make him a racist. Actions speak louder than words, and this President is proving to be the enemy. You go right ahead and leave this country. I’m tired of people disrespecting this country. since when is it a crime to display our flag and be a christian. The sooner we get these corrupt politicians out the better. If you don’t like America and what we stand for, then find another country.

      • http://gunner689 gunner689

        Cuba comes to mind; that little island paradise.

      • hflashman

        Gunner…ask Cubans (those who stayed) which era was better…during Batista or after Batista. You may be surprised. (BTW I am not referring to Floridian Cubans..those who fled to Florida were overwhelmingly Batista supporters and cronies..not a very unbiased source. )

        I’m not pro-Castro….but maybe you should read up on life under Batista. It was where Reagan and Bush II were trying to take us

      • Karolyn

        Since when is it a crime to not display a flag and proclaim being an atheist? Flag-flying does not a patriot make. It depends on what you mean by patriot. In name only or by practice. A practicing patriot repects ALL Americans and does not need to fly a flag and sing “Glory Hellelujah” all the time.

      • (WIA) Wild Indian in Action

        Karolyn, Or is it Karol-whine. If you Blacks (Negro Race) are so non-racists why do you always depend on the Race Card when you can’t win the argument or at least rebuttal with intelligence ? For your information and you can include Betty and any other of your “Blacks”, Anglos are but one member of the “Caucasian” race. Good lord! Is this what you learn in Ghetto Schools? Have you ever heard of the Buffalo Soldiers, we call them racists “Indians Killers”. If you hate this great country and Anglos so much, what keeps you from buying a one way ticket to Black Africa? Or are you afraid of the “Black African Social Justice” governments?
        Obama is not a leader he is a Marxists Revolutionary, Look up the Obama’s Timeline, AKA Barry Soetoro was raised a Muslim. Now be polite, take Norm, eddie69d, the flushed-man, Betty and dummiso and whom ever else that wants to go with you, and go (offensive words removed)

      • eddie47d

        You’re always offensive but we can handle your cheap talk.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Is it offensive to you eddie because he speaks the truth? If anyone has any reason to hate white people, it would be Wild Indian in Action. Still to this day the American Indian is prejudiced against. Yet the American Black is given everything. They are considered first when applying for jobs. They are now being give Pro sports management jobs, because they say it isnt fair they dont have more, even though it seems fair to them that they have 95 percent of the NBA player jobs, but thats Ok. Gimme a break. One of these days they are going to push so much, and this political correctness is going to go so far, that we will have to make every sports team, every business, and every school, an equal ration of colors of everyone, so that no one feels bad. Question is, will the black feel that this is justice when they start having things taken from them because of their skin color, like us whites and Indians have had to endure for so many years now?

      • Karolyn

        Hey, WIA, I’m not black and I ain’t the one whinin’. No one in this country is better than anyone else, and that includes Native Americans. We all are brothers and sisters, irrespective of race or skin color.

      • Vigilant

        “A practicing patriot repects ALL Americans…”

        From where do you get that nonsense? Look up the word “patriot” in the dictionary and you’ll find nothing about respecting everyone in your country.

        There are MANY Americans I do not respect, but I love my country and that makes me a patriot. In fact, it is partly because I DON’T respect those who would tear her down that I am a patriot.

      • Karolyn

        We are ALL equal in the eys of God and ALL deserve respect.

      • Vigilant

        Karolyn, kindly don’t change the subject. You said, “A practicing patriot repects ALL Americans…” and I responded to it.

        Equality in the eyes of God has no bearing on respect. “Regard for and appreciation of worth; honor and esteem” is one dictionary definition of “respect.” Do you respect Lee Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVeigh, The Communist Party, Charley Rangel, Joe McCarthy, Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, et. al.?

    • Doug

      Hey David when you are in trouble don’t call on us to help you out DA! And we the people who care did not do this it the welfare can’t get a job or you racist hold me back. No David what has happen to the USA it the Political correct bullshit going on time to tell it as it is and flush the turds down the toilet!

    • S.C.Murf

      David please make that popping sound

    • Rick

      There are too many people in our country today that heve been taught
      revisionist history in the public indoctrination centers, and have no
      concept of what wrath the Muslims brought upon the world when they
      invaded Europe over a thousand years ago. History has a way of repeating itself, and the Muslims now have an ally in this Obama, who
      is not genuine in any way. He calls himself “BLACK”, completely ignoring his “WHITE” heritage, denies being Muslim, even though he was
      taught in his formative years in a Muslim school, and a myriad of other facts
      about his life that he has successfully concealed from public scrutiny. He cannot be honest about anything, and that is really scary!

      • http://gunner689 gunner689

        How did BO become black, he’s a half-breed. Notice there isn’t a fatwa against him for changing from islam to Christianity. Hum, wonder why ? Maybe he’s the muslim Manchurian candidate.

      • S.C.Murf

        His mother is white (english), his grandmother is polynesian and his father is somalian and they consider themselves of arabian descent so tell me where does the black come in, only to use it to get elected

      • Kate8

        S.C.Murf – Somalis are black.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Talk with Iran? Are you serious? Dave, do you understand the muslim idealogy? You know, the kill anyone who is different than me. If they dont think like me, kill them? You are not going to change the way they think for one minute by talking to them. My gosh man, didnt the United Nations sit down and TALK FOR 13 STINKING YEARS

    • michelleo

      Want help packing????

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Talk with Iran? Are you serious Dave? Really? Do you have any idea about the ideology of the Islamic mindset? Are you that arrogant that you seriously think you can sit down over a glass of wine, maybe burn some incense, and sing kumbaya around the campfire, that you are going to change their mindset? Their core belief, is that if you dont think like them, kill you. If you dont believe what they believe, kill you. And they will kill themselves, to kill you. And they find that wholesome behavior. Whereas as those of us in the light know, that if you kill yourself, your buying a one way ticket to hell, and they look at it as if God is for some demented and perverted reason going to give them 7 virgins. For what? Are you kidding me? This is insane. And David, did not the United Nations, sit down AND TALK WITH IRAQ FOR 13 STINKING YEARS? Yes they did Dave. 13 years. And not one little thing changed. Not one. They only got worse and more aggressive. You cannot be a pacifist appeaser with these guys Dave, or your a dead man. Do you not understand that? If not, seriously, for you, for me, for all of us, you need to read up on and get to understanding just who these guys are, and you will see how absurd it is to even think about sitting down and talking to them. They understand one language Dave, Kaboom. Sorry man, but that is the language they speak. It aint right, but thats how it is. No way can you sit down and talk with them. What a joke.

    • blv54

      obama a christian? give me a break he won’t even speak with a background of christian symbolism behind him, makes them cover it up, left endowed by our creater out of a speech just last week but he loves to talk about his muslim faith and in his book he states if things should take an ugly turn I will stand with the muslims, I could go on and on with things he says about his love for Islam and if he was christian he wouldn’t have gone overseas and told them were not a christian nation, and as for being a citizen of the US everyone knows by now he’s not even his wife said that.

    • Shibamom

      Thank goodness!! One more sound asleep liberal leaving the country!! Why don’t you take several million more with you! Loser!

  • ‘en

    The secular humanists involved in the geo-political theatre have been working for many years through the influence of greed and power.The perfect storm scenario of complete world dominance is awakening.Soros and his ilk are using their demonic influence to create a one world government. Obama is ignorant enough and influenced enough to dance with them.American exceptionalism is now irrelevant.A whole generation of questionable patriots is being born in America.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      And in the end, there will be a one world government. The Bible tells us all about it. It is coming, and it will be composed of 10 countries. Soon after its formation, 3 of them will be thrown out. And its all downhill from there.

  • matt laing

    your diatribe is contradictory nonsense. you criticize obama for treating pakistan with kid gloves and then confirm how uncomfortable their government is with us. you may be suprised to learn that pakistan has political factions,some of which make hay with any cooperation by their government with us. it sounds like you get your polical insights from sarah palin.
    you also seem to be critical of obama’s efforts trying to deal with the incredible mess w left in afghanistan. he has done exactly what the generals have asked.
    you are a racist and you obviously do not have the interests of the united states at heart. you place your interests above ours. are you even an american?

    • rich hutchins

      i come here for intelligent libertarian views…. what happened? Matt- you hit the nail on the head.

    • Vigilant

      “…he has done exactly what the generals have asked.
      you are a racist and you obviously do not have the interests of the united states at heart. you place your interests above ours.”

      Get over it. It’s Obama’s problem now, not Bush’s. And get your facts straight, he has not done “exactly what the generals have asked.” When the generals wanted 40,000 troops he sent 30,000. He’s established a deadline for withdrawal, something that goes directly against good military strategy and will result in untold more lives lost. You’d think we would have learned from Viet Nam, but we didn’t.

      Using the race card where it has no applicability shows your true propagandist leanings.

      • eddie47d

        If we had learned from Vietnam we never would have gone into Iraq with such flimsy excuses. The poop in Afghanistan is being piled higher than a feed lot so I’m not sure if even that war can be considered noble. Our troops are noble but the Afghan govt. doesn’t deserve any respect.

      • Vigilant

        Bush II’s Iraqi invasion was based on numerous UN Security Council resolutions and a belief that WMD were present. I’m not going to argue about whether the intelligence estimates were massaged, that’s for another day.

        The pretext, if you will, was accepted by almost everyone. It has always been my contention that the best plan in Iraq would have been to either leave well enough alone, or to topple Hussein, and then get the hellout of there. This would have facilitated a strong government, another dictatorship if necessary, but the leader(s) would have been put on notice that we would take military action again if conditions warranted.

        Such a solution would have allowed for strong hands to be kept on the reins of government, maintained a balance of power vis a vis Iran and would not have weakened the country to the extent that Ahmadinajad (Sp.?) was strengthened in his meddling in the Middle East.

        The aftermath of the invasion was worse than the invasion itself. Combine the insurgency with the terrible mishandling by Rumsfeld and the provisional authorities, and we got what we had asked for.

      • Frank

        That is the first thing that Eddie has said that I can agree with

      • Granny Mae

        First time I agreed with him too ! Miracles do happen !

      • Claire

        Eddie– Good post.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Concerning what the generals want. I have to add this. Gen. McChrystal was fired, for revealing to the news that Obama hadnt talked to him for 6 weeks, when he was the guy leading the war effort. 6 weeks. The Obama admin took over a war effort that was on a good track, and quickly veered off of it, making every effort to make it fail, you see, in order to make the Republicans, via the Bush admin look bad if it falls apart, thus making the democrats look good, while the country suffers. Even some of their leaders were recorded saying that if the war goes good, its bad for the democrats, but if it all goes bad, its good for them. Honest to God, I heard the interviews myself. This admin is just spinning their wheels, not knowing what to do, other than if they can cut and run out of Iraq and make it fall to terrorists, they can stand by on their milk crates and do what they did to get elected, and continue to do what they have done for two years, and that is stand there and point the finger and blame others. That is how they roll. Like it or not, that is who they are, and I cant wait until 2012 when the rest of them get sent packing. Then maybe we can start getting things done right. Oh yeah, and just how is he going to do this war thing right, when he has already announced he is cutting billions from our military. Gee, didnt Clinton do that, along with billions from our intelligence community, that caused this whole thing? Thats what I thought.

  • BETTY

    Seems to me, it’s business as usual, the anglos are still on the thrown and still making the decisions, the presidents are only thier puppets, so if you are going to blame Obama you blame the whole damned system which has always been evil and corrupt and still is. You get what you deserve for having allowed these attrocities for all these years. I say shame on you, who sat complacently and accepted the crumbs from the feds who made you falsely believe that you were really on top, only to find out that you have been fools and victims of the biggest government scheme ever perpetuated on mankind. So, do not blame blacks or President Obama, blame your own damned complacent selves. It was your masters who created this mess and your self superiority, greed and gullibility that allowed it to continue. But, these things must come to pass and remember that GOD IS STILL ON THE THROWN and he is the final authority, so at least, take comfort in that.

    • castaway

      Betty, I did not know you were “BLACK”! However your words and attitude show otherwise. Oh, and no body has thrown anyone yet,but I think you meant the “throne”.

      • Kate8

        All races are equally corruptible. I suggest you look around the world at all the misery and suffering every race and culture wreaks upon their own as well as others.

        I would advise not going down this road. It’s a dead end.

      • Granny Mae

        Betty,

        Stop already with the black vs. white BS. Kate8 is right. Look around and see what is going on not just here but all over the world. The Sudan is a pitiful example. A black nation taken over by arab muslims and now the muslim people are being attacked and killed because they are too dark ! You have a problem with whites because you walk around all the time with a chip on your shoulder and the problem is that chip isn’t even yours to carry ! Your ancestors may have had problems but then so did mine. I may be white but two of my family ancestors were also slaves. Get the chip off your shoulder and move on. Loose the chip and I guarentee your relationships with white people will improve !

      • Granny Mae

        By the way , aren’t you the lucky one that your ancestors happen to get here in the first place. If they hadn’t youcould be living in some African country right now and I bet you wouldn’t be living the life you enjoy here. Plus one more thing. Most people brought over here as slaves were sold to the Dutch by other African tribes after they were captured or stolen from other tribes. Blame your own people for your being here and not back in Africa !

    • Louie

      Betty, didn’t any of you (Abused Minorities) learn to spell when us “Whites” payed for you to go to school? Oh, I forgot, you only learned how to cash your welfare check!

      • Karolyn

        And you are self-righteous, self-superior, and holier-than-thou. Who do you people think you are? YOU have ALL the answers to EVERYTHING because you have a direct pipeline to God?

      • Vigilant

        Louie said nothing about God. I think you are guilty of stereotyping, my dear.

      • eddie47d

        …..and Louie and Castaway are sterotyping.

      • Karolyn

        I spoke of God because God is the only one who really KNOWS anything!

      • Vigilant

        And your evidence for that is…..?

      • Claire

        Not everyone is on welfare. A cruel and unjust comment that is not warranted, unless it is KNOWN that the person is on welfare, and if so, what are the reasons they are on welfare? To lump people into the same category is not fair. I know a few people that are on welfare, and the life tragedies they have endured through no fault of their own is the reason they are on welfare. Life can deal some mighty blows and of course there are people that abuse the system. These people are the ones that have caused this chaos within the welfare system. These people need to be weeded out.
        Everyone has their own opinion about the issues at hand. I have spoken mine.

    • S.C.Murf

      Remember Betty that ALL have sinned and ALL fall short of the glory of God. Please no more race cards, ok?

      • Vigilant

        You’re right insofar as the gratuitousness of Betty’s and Karolyn’s attacks. No one said anything about blacks or Christians until those ladies brought it up.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      First off Betty, I find your post highly racial, and shame on you. You should know better. I for one, as a white male, a Republican, do not hold Obama responsible, and how you get the black race in her as responsible I dont know, because the dude is half white you know. So if your going to blame race its half whites fault and half blacks fault. But if you want the facts about the fault, race has nothing to do with it, and really, either does Obama personally. Its a democrat thing. He is the figurehead of the socialist pacifist appeasing tax monster immorral democrat party of today. And they will throw his butt under to the buss to save their face, as they have started doing since over 60 of them were voted out of office. They blame their defeats on him, when it was their party’s policies that got them canned. When he leaves, another liberal will take the spot as the top dem, and they will go right out of the liberal democrat playbook, and it will all be the same. Liberals are immorral and side on the side of satan and that it all there is to it. So Betty, dont blame black or white, or Obama or Bush. Blame the liberals or the conservatives. The president cannot do anything without congress. But shame on you for bring race in where it does not fit, belong, or apply. This merely shows the world that you my dear, have racists problems of your own that you need to sort out.

  • Norm

    Maybe we need some more of the Bush/Cheney foreign policy. We haven’t started a war in a few years!

    • castaway

      That statement is just plain dumb! What more can I say.

      • Norm

        The truth often seems dumb especially to the simple minded.

      • Doug

        Norm what you need is a good smack up side your left side of the brain maybe it will get you off the left lean you have. Or maybe just a good old fashion ass kicking I’m more than happy to do it for Norm.

      • Vigilant

        Then your simplemindedness is exposed, in spades.

    • Michael J.

      Norm,
      You may not have to hold your breath for long. Goodbye Iraq, Hello Iran. Hope it works out better than the last Democrat president to undertake an Iranian mission. You know, Jimmy Carters botched attempt to rescue the hostages?

      • Vigilant

        Michael J.,

        Unfortunately, the problems are manifold in any planned invasion of Iran. It’s something like 5 times larger than Iraq, and the terrain is prohibitive in many areas, much like Afghanistan.

        If Obama had any foreign policy smarts, something of which I’ve never heard him accused, he would let the Israelis take care of the problem via surgical strikes on the hardened facilties every few months or so. The unknown quantity in this gambit would be Russia, so any action cannot be taken lightly.

      • Angel

        I thought Ronnie Reagan and the 1983 Beirut barracks bombing was much more deplorable. Talk about inept foreign policy!

      • Vigilant

        Of course, don’t mention that he ended the Cold War. Minor detail, huh?

        Talk about ignorance of historical fact!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        No, deplorable is when then blow up the World Trade Centers basement the first time, then blow up the USS Cole, then drag our dead naked through the streets of Somalia beating their dead bodies on TV, and there is Bill Clinton, looking for another cigar and another intern. That sir, is what is deplorable, and what caused 9-11, and what strengthen these islamic terrorists to where we had to finally go after them. Clinton was a wuss that made them think they could do anything they wanted, and nothing would be done. Guess they thought wrong, because we got that girlie man out of there, and put a real man, Mr. Bush in there, who wasnt going to take it. Thank God for George W. Bush.

      • hflashman

        Reagan’s birthday cake was a huge success eh?

    • S.C.Murf

      Hey norm PLEASE make that popping sound.

    • FireMall

      Norm: If you had done your History lessons back when there was such courses offered in the Indoctrination “Revisionist” Education systems in America , you would know that 90% of wars in history have been instigated By the Demons / Socialist Progressives. I.E. “Redistribution” “Is” an act of War. Period.
      Even when the wars began in earnest after Repugs-less-nuts were voted into power & were duty bound to stay till the War was ended.
      Ref: Clinton’s pre-9/11 Iraq / Afghanistan Coddling Foreign Policies which “allowed” the 9/11 attacks during the Bush admin, after which, all Lefties Conveniently claim the Standard; It’s All Bush’s Fault..
      Basically, imo, The “Left” “Creates” by Revising / Controlling History.
      The Right Learns from & Uses History to Create.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      No Norm, we should have just sat on our lazy butts, and let Saddam Hussein destroy and take over the whole middle east, and control all of the oil, then blame Bush for not doing anything. You pacifists appeasers take the cake. You havent a clue what your talking about, because inaction would have been the worst possible thing we could have ever done. Thank God Mr. Bush had a pair and acted, and wasnt a little girlie man that ran scared and hid like Bill Clinton when they were blowing up one thing after another in this country, gaining the strongholds that allowed them to pull off 9-11. That is what you get when you do nothing Norm, 9-11. Thank you Mr. Clinton for that. Your an arse Norm, and a dumb uneducated one at that, for you show your simplistic stupidity in thinking that we should have just let them keep attacking us. Your a real piece of work. Shame on you for calling yourself an American. Democrat.

  • http://rorels@sbcglobal.net Lita Z. Biejo

    Obama’s policy is leading us to darkly sinister. I’ve known this from the very beginning. There is nothing transparent about this guy. He is a congenital liar and a traitor to our country. And yet there are many of us stupid americans coupled by these illegals as well as new immigrants who are so naive to listen to His rhetorics full of lies. Wake up Americans and let us do something for our once upon a time greatest country in this world! Impeach Obama now!

    • Kim

      I, for one, would love to see impeachment before any more damage is done, but how do we accomplish this with all of Obama’s players sitting in power? All the judicial seats, all the politicos, until Jan., are in his pockets. Can we start the impeachment process then? How? I am ready!!!

      • Vigilant

        As attractive as the impeachment process is, to do it now would be catastrophic. I think the terrorist world would almost certainly take it as a sign of American weakness, emboldening them to foment some new crisis. Let alone what it would do to the already tottering financial markets.

        The best thing the new Congress can do is to de-fund the unconstitutional programs the Dems have undertaken, while strongly urging Obama to grow a pair.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        What emboldens the enemy, is when our president apologizes to them, gives them lawyers to defend them, and throws our military guys fighting them into jail. This wholly strengthens our enemies, and makes us a laughing stock to them. It encourages them to fight us. There is no greater a weakness for a country, than pacifism. It loses everytime it is practiced. Everytime, without fail.

      • Granny Mae

        Amen Brother!

      • Vigilant

        Additionally, Kim, impeachment is impossible. Even with the new Congressmen and Senators, the necessary votes would not be there to convict. When the Black Caucus gives a standing ovation to a criminal like Rangel, you know the Dems would vote purely along political lines. It would be a repeat of the miscarriage of justice when Clinton was impeached. It would just be a waste of time.

        The new Congress’ first business is to reverse the anti-Capitalist measures passed by themselves the first time around.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        What good would impeachment do? Bill Clinton was impeached, and he never had to leave. Am I not correct in this?

      • http://marcum@wildblue.net coal miner

        Beberoni,

        George Bush should had been.I take it back,he should have been tried and convicted on war crimes.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Yeah right. And Osama Bin Laden should be made a saint. Whats a matter with you? Did you like them blowing up the USS Cole, and the World Trade Center basement the first time? And the U.S. barracks in Lebanon? Did you like them dragging our dead through the streets in Somalia beating their dead bodies? And you want war crimes for finally standing up for the United States? How many times you gonna let somebody walk up and slap you in the face, before you slap them back coal miner? Are you a pansy? If your not willing to stand up and fight for whats right, then you are worthless pal. Get over yourself.

    • eddie47d

      Here we go again! The left wanted Bush impeached and the right wants Obama impeached. Bush, under bad advice created the exact disasters that Meyers is talking about.Obama has brought some things under control and enhanced others so neither President has accomplished the original goal. I believe that was to dismantle al Qaeda and return home. We all know al Qaeda has weakened in capabilities but has grown in numbers. Should we continue to pursue them or ignore them? If Pakistan is harbouring them and also is fighting them should we continue to support the Pakistani government. Can we “win” in Afghanistan if we don’t take on al Qaeda in the mountains of Pakistan? As far as the Nuclear issue goes Obama is using the carrot and stick approach. If we give them help against a mutual terrorist group will they be more open on reveling their Nuclear capabilities? All these scenarios are very costly to the U.S. and will keep us indebted for years to come. Going after Iran will give us similar problems and more debt so I’m against beating the war drums with them.

      • Vigilant

        Afghanistan is an unwinnable war, period. Michael Scheur, former CIA expert on Bin Laden, has made a compelling case for withdrawal in some of his books.

        The US needs to see the folly of trying to impose a centralized democratic government on a country ruled by warlords. Karzai and his corrupt buddies rule an area about a 50-mile radius around Kabul, and that’s it. Outside of this area is a no man’s land of tribal hegemonies.

        Nation building, an arrogant concept to begin with, has no chance in Afghanistan. And, adding insult to injury, Obama’s timeline for withdrawal merely emboldens the Taliban and forces Karzai & Co. into currying favor with them as they jockey for postwar position.

        Regarding Iran, the UN, Obama and Hillary have tried using the carrot and have failed miserably. The stick has yet to be used, and until we cut off ALL oil to Iran we will remain sitting ducks for Iranian adventurism.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        The bad advice by Bill Clinton, Joe Biden, John Kerry, John Edwards, Hillary Clinton, Howard Dean, Tom Daschle, Ted Kennedy, and many many more leading democrats, who I watched on TV and heard on the radio, exclaiming to the world that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and was dangerous and needed to be stopped. That bad advise eddie? Actually, this one one of the few times those on the left were correct in their assertation of the facts. They were correct. After all, what happened to the WMD’S that were inventoried by the UN during the Clinton admin? There were pages of them, fully inventoried? Where did they go eddie? Gee, you dont think they would hide them do you? Come one man, no way Iran or Syria or someone like that would help them hide them now would they? Gimme a break. Your pathetic with your Bush attacks. He is gone eddie. Been gone 2 years. Can we live in todays time please. Today eddie. Whats obama doing and whats he done? Escalated the debt, got off track in Iraq, and escalated Afghanistan. Amazing.

      • eddie47d

        I wasn’t in favor of the Iraq War even when the Democrats in Washington were favoring it. Iraq is deffinetely Bush’s War and I’ll bring his name up on any issue he was involved with. You’re not going to get away with that line of thinking.

  • Teresa

    Know what, hes right….this is Christmas time and we are in the most uncertain times of our lives right now. Our morals, our economy, our Constitution, our rights, our very nation is at the lowest I have ever witnessed. We as a Nation need to come together, to repent, to pray for our President, for US, for Our Nation, for OUR soldiers especially, for our very strength. I do not like the direction Obama has taken nor his choices but I pray for him and my Nation, we have to!

    • Kate8

      Teresa, You are right. We all need to pray like we never have before, including for our (albeit illegitimate) president.

      Pray for him, but that doesn’t mean we have to support him.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      You are right. This man has made himself an enemy of all who truly love this country. And our Bible tells us to pray for our enemies. We cannot change them, but God can if He so chooses. But as you look over history, God has often used evil people and evil empires to get His peoples attention and to punish them for their disobediance. But He always saves a Remnant of His people to carry on. Only this time around, Im thinking the remant will be those who experience what we refer to as the rapture, even though the Bible doesnt mention that word, it does say we will be taken up in the sky to meet Him.

      • Kate8

        Beberoni – I sure hope you are right on the rapture. Churches are all over the map on this one. Scripture also says the numbers are few.

        I have a sense that it has to do with how attuned we are to the vibration of Love. If we are of resonance with Love, we will shift. If not, we stay where we resonate.

        This is what we need to pray for the most: that we have Love in our hearts. That, I think, is what will save us. Isn’t this what Yeshua is telling us in so many ways? That God is Love?

        Scripture says, there are many who will say “Lord, Lord”, and I will say, “I never knew you”.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        You are correct Kate8. There are many hippocrites in the world, and sadly, many in the church. Satan has employed them there, to keep many from coming into the church, as they are seen far and wide. Many people I know that dont go to church all seem to say, “the church is full of hippocrites”. Sadly, they are correct. And many will profess to be saved, and have no clue. I know. Up until 12 years ago, I was one of them. I was born and raised going to church, and I knew all the Bible stories of Adam and Eve, and Noah, Babylon, and the Gospels. But thats it, they were just stories I knew. I would have told you I believed in Jesus then, but it was only the stories. Until 12 years ago, when I got down on my knee’s and cried out for forgiveness and invited Jesus into my life. I know many people now, who think they are saved, but they arent. My brother is one of them. I told him that even Satan believes in Jesus, as he has met Him and talked with Him, and Satan isnt going to Heaven. So there is a big huge difference in believing, and really believing. Knowing a story about someone and saying you know them is one thing, but having them come and dwell inside you and really knowing them, is quite a different thing. So you are correct, many will cry – Lord, Lord, and He will not hear their cries, as they are the ones who heard of Him, but never made room in their hearts for Him, and you can bet their lives never reflected a change in showing that He truly dwells within them. That is how you know if someone is saved.

      • S.C.Murf

        You see that when one starts talking about the love and power of Jesus Christ that you get few if any replies? No can refute His word. I would like to add that we need to pray to Jesus for our leaders, and when one prays don’t just pray to a higher power, for satan is a power higher, but call out the name of Christ Jesus, and get rid of the religion and get into a relationship

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Your right SC. While those on the liberal left were cursing and telling lies daily about Bush, I have prayed daily for Mr. Obama, and his cabinet, that they would make Godly decisions, and have prayed for God’s guidance over them. But unless they are willing to be open to letting God lead them, He will sit there idly waiting, because He is not a forceful God, not until judgment day. Pray daily for the misguided democrats who find it ok to murder babies and glorify immoral and perverted behavior with their own sex. Pray for them, that God will forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing. We cannot change them, only God can, and only if they are willing, because He wont force Himself on anyone. But rest assured, there is one day coming, when He will make all wrongs right, and all will answer for their deeds, both good and evil. That day is coming.

      • Shibamom

        Hello Beberoni,

        Your post struck a chord in me. I’ve always believed in God but I did not take him into my life. I tried years and years ago when my high school friends, who were all christian, tried to “convert” me. They held my hand and had me recite a prayer and silly me thought that once I said the words, I would feel this miraculous peace, love, and harmony. Sadly, I didn’t feel that at all and ended up going my own way. Now, fast forward about 35 years. I had a not so great incident happen to me last year. All the years of living like I was untouchable and invicinable came crashing down on me. The end result was I had tons and tons of time to spend alone, thinking and thinking about how I’d gotten where I was. Even though this time of my life was very hard, lonely, and costly…I am happy that it happened. Why? Because of the forced time alone and all the thoughts I had. I actually began to talk to God. There were many times at night, in bed, when I spoke to him and and you know what???? He helped me open my heart and things have gotten so much better, personally. He spoke to my heart and it opened. I began to understand things that he tried to show and tell me years ago. I firmly believe that he “woke” me up to all that is going on now so that I can get prepared for whatever comes my way. It isn’t always easy especially after living most of my life oblivious to God. However, I really like how I feel now and even though many people still annoy the crap out of me…here is what I repeat to myself in order to get past it: “The happiness of your life depends on the quality of your thoughts”. I believe that this saying is pretty close in meanin to “love thy enemies”.

      • Karolyn

        “This is what we need to pray for the most: that we have Love in our hearts. That, I think, is what will save us. Isn’t this what Yeshua is telling us in so many ways? That God is Love?” Right on with that statement Kate. Too bad so many here can only express hate.

      • libertytrain

        Calling folks simple-minded doesn’t infer that you are living in love for mankind.

      • Karolyn

        Calling someone “simple-minded” does not show a lack of love. People can’t help being simple-minded for the most part. It’s like calling somone ignorant. It has nothing to do with lack of love for mankind. Lack of love is shown in hating others, as in calling them foul names as often happens here and wishing them ill.

      • libertytrain

        perhaps you are correct – it shows an arrogance and overly large ego as to self.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        You are right Karolyn. God has said, the greatest gift is Love. The highest commandment, most important of all, He said is “Love your God with all your heart, with all your soul and with all your mind”, and the second is like it, in “Love your neighbor as yourself”. And someone made a statement about you calling someone simply minded. Well, I can relate. Just because Im a Christian, let it not be mistaken by anybody, does not make me perfect or above being a sinner. I am a sinner, and thats why I needed Jesus Christ in my life and invited Him in. And I still slip and get mad and call people names sometimes, and you know what, as long as Im wearing this flesh on my body, from time to time this is going to happen. It doesnt make me right, but it makes me human. A fallen man. Thats what I am. Thats why I need Jesus in my life. Thats why He is taking me to Heaven with Him when He comes, because I acknowledge Him and know I need Him. And without Him, there would be no Love in the world at all. Love has no greater gift that to lay down your life for a friend. He laid His down for all of us. That is Love.

      • Granny Mae

        Beberoni,

        We all fall short of the glory of God. All have sinned and like you said that is why we ask him into our hearts. As long as we have the Holy Spirit in us we will do alright !

      • Granny Mae

        Wouldn’t it be wonderful for the Holy Spirit to come and cause a change of mind and heart not just in Obama but in all his cabinet too? Dear Lord make it happen in Jeasus name, Amen

  • kathie foreman

    Darkly sinister
    Obama isn’t even subtle about his world view. Unfortunately americans have been destroyed by public (non) education, drugged by pharmacuetical interests that promote psydo diseases and disorders, floridated, chemically polluted, and morally bankrupted in the name of “freedom”.
    Obama is a “world citizen” assigned to destroy what is left of the resistance to world taxation like the carbon tax, and other socialist values. I don’t believe he is concerned with a second term, as I don’t believe we can remain sovereign.

    • Wally Pieper

      Kathie, I don’t believe Maobama is interested in a second term either. I feel he is working overtime to destroy the Republic in the next 18 to 24 months and replace it with the theocracy/communist government he has wanted since his days in college while being educated by Communists and radicals, his words, not mine. I do not see a general election for President in 2012. What I do see is an Maobama declared emergency/crisis and the Presidential general election suspended indefinitely and he declaring himself emperor or some other lofty title. For validation, see his refusal to acknowledge God in references to the Declaration of Independence, the nations motto ‘In God We Trust’ replaced with his version ‘e pluribus unum’. Look closely at his cadre of 42 czars. Everyone of them, in their own words, either written or spoken, embraces Communism and endorses either a peaceful or violent overthrow of the United States government and a dismantling of the capitalistic system brick by brick. I could provide numerous other examples, but time and space are limited, so I implore all to do your homework.

      Wally Pieper
      USAF ’56 – ’64

      McHenry, Illinois

      • eddie47d

        You print only conjectures not facts and you are probably wrong on all of them.

      • ValDM

        What’s wrong with doing your homework as he implores you to do? Too lazy? or just too limited in your thinking? Go educate yourself, and stop trying to imply the rest of us know nothing?

      • eddie47d

        Thee is no homework to be done when he was only making implications and not facts.

      • Kate8

        Liberals don’t do research. They intuit.

        They ignore facts, anyway. It only confuses them.

      • Kate8

        Besides, you could produce documents, video footage, quotes, and expert testimony and the libs would scoff.

        It’s a complete waste of time.

      • eddie47d

        So Kate 8,That means you listen(read) on many liberal sites to get the complete story. I certainly don’t trust all the sources I see here and I wouldn’t expect you to believe everything you hear or read.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Well you are always wrong, so I guess your even with the guy.

      • Pete NY “R I P FEDERAL RESERVE BANK”

        WP, good point. Every State gov. should at least begin to consider a formal and legal secession from DC. That action should be ready at a moments notice. If our Federal gov. is false, we must replace it or seceed. It seems to me that Arizona, for example, has every right to seceed right now and all other States ought to recognize the action as valid and lawful.

      • JC

        Good thought, but “less drastically” the states can simply start nullifying Federal laws as UnConstitutional, therefore illegal.

      • Granny Mae

        Wally,

        I’m sad to say but I believe as you do and I have since the election. I told my husband that he was looking at the first dictator of the United States of America. Everything he has done has been to destroy this country piece by piece. What president do you know of would ever step to take a State to court for any reason, let alone for trying to do something about an imigrant problem that was threatening to bankrupt that state ? Doing what he did separated this country and a house divided cannot stand. He is offending people right and left, from the christian public right down to his own party by going over their heads to take it upon himself to form agreements with the opposit party and then declare it was done ! Nancy Pelosi sure didn’t like that and she is going to let him know just where his place is in this government ! I just hope this was a big enough mistake that his party turns against him and helps get him impeached ! The speaker of the house is about the only one that can make it happen.

    • Vigilant

      Most of you seem to be missing the point. Mr. Myers’ article is about a failing foreign policy that could bring us to our knees. Instead of using it as a springboard for carping about Obama’s domestic policies, or as an opportunity to bash Bush once again, look closer at what Mr. Myers is saying.

      We’re talking about the possibility of a destructive nuclear war. It has been known for decades that even a local nuclear conflict between India and Pakistan would bathe the world in lethal fallout. Throw in Iran, and the possibility of a pre-emptive Israeli strike to damage Iran’s nuclear capability, and you’ve got a pot that’s ready to boil over.

      If the US is smart, our military and intelligence apparatus would have contingency plans to neutralize the Pakistani threat in case of hostile takeover by the Taliban. I wouldn’t be surprised if India was part of this plan.

      That being said, I can’t imagine that gold would have any value at all in a scenario where we would be thrown back to the Dark Ages. We’re not talking about just the crash of the global financial system, we’re looking at absolute societal chaos. When I’ve got a stash of water and food, or a few cords of wood to keep me warm, do you think I’m going to trade them for a glittering metal that can contribute nothing to my survival?

      • home boy

        read ezekiel 7;19 if you want to see where gold and silver is headed

      • Vigilant

        Thanks. Very appropriate passage.

  • http://eletters mary

    READ THE BOOK OF REVELATION ABOUT THE FOUR HORSES. WE ARE IN THE BLACK HORSE ERA. ONE MORE TO COME: DEATH AND HELL. THIS IS PROPHECY BEING FULFILLED. WE CAN SAVE OURSELF, BUT WE CANNOT STOP WHAT GOD HAS ORDAINED. THE END IS NEARER THAN WE BELIEVED.

    • survivorgirl

      AMEN!

    • Karolyn

      This prophesy has been used many times over the centuries. What makes you think this time is different than any other?

      • FireMall

        What makes you think today’s revelations are the “same” as past ones ??
        Touche~
        Don’t care much for being open minded to what others see / believe do ya ??
        Despite your denials of God, I’ll trust in “God’s” “Word” long before I would Trust your self serving Faith in Mortal Man , which, actually is blatant Denial of Christian Prophecies..
        Even if the Book of Revelations is off by a few years or even { as you claim} a farce , I can’t lose anything important in a worldly , material sense by believing in Biblical prophecy ? How about you ??
        So, if your right & I’m wrong, what will you gain by being “Right” as you claim to always be.
        From what I seen , via Islam’s Word, Women aren’t allowed to have access to the 72 virgins as far as Muslim women’s Non-existent rights as Human beings. Right ?
        What does Mohamad promise “His” women followers ?
        What will I or anyone else “Lose” by “Believing” in “God’s” word ??

      • smithington

        You have nothing to lose, but everything to gain.

      • eddie47d

        Firemall; Karolyn Never called this Prophecy a face and wanted an honest answer on her question. Which you skirted.

      • Jana

        eddie,
        Karolyn has stated she has turned away from Christianity. She cannot fit Christianity into her box of how life is supposed to go so she denounced it.
        FireMall’s answer was very good.

      • Karolyn

        I never said you’d lose anything. You can have your beliefs and I can have mine. I do believe in God, however, I do not believe the Bible is infallible. After all, it was written by man. Scribes took dictation and translators took liberties. There are different interpretations. I was a “Christian” most of my life, but have found a better, more loving and peaceful way to believe.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        The Bible was not written by man. Have you read it? It clearly states, that it was “breathed by the Holy Spirit”. Yes, mere men used their hands to transcribe the words, but they werent from them or from their minds and hearts, they were breathed to them by the Holy Spirit which told them what to write. Its like if God uses me to heal a badly deformed arm, it isnt I that did it, it is God that did it. People that watched might tell someone I straightened this guys arm, as that is what they saw. But what they didnt understand, was that I was just a vessel willing to let God manifest Himself in me and use me to accomplish His work. As such were the men who penned the Bible, they were instruments God used to pen His word for us to have. I hope I have helped some.

      • Karolyn

        If, indeed, you believe that, then you should believe that it happens yet today. In that case, I would suggest a book for you to read: “Conversations with God” by Neale Donald Walsch. You probably won’t read it because it would be described by most Christians as satanic because it doesn’t fit with traditional views. However, for me, it opened my eyes to a new life.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        I will find this book, and by merely touching it, I will be able to tell if its satanic or not. I have the give of discernment, telling evil spirits from good ones, and evil things stand out to me like a white dot on a black background. I feel the cold when Im around evil, and when I meet someone and shake their hand, I know then and there as to whose they are. I will be able to tell with this book also, as evil spirits are very easily detected and surround the things that are theirs.

      • Karolyn

        Beberoni – I believe we all have that discernment; however, most people either do not notice it or it isn’t developed. The same thing can be done with kinesiology. If you have someone hold their arm out and put something harmful in their hand (without them knowing it) and ask them to resist you pushing down on their arm, their arm will go down. If you put, say, an apple (again, without them knowing what it is) in their hand and push down, they can resist.

      • Granny Mae

        Karolyn,

        We are truly most wonderfully made and there are powers that God gave us all that some never fully develope but the most major thing in learning to use these powers is to remain close to God. The bible says he will direct your path. To persue these powers without the Lord to direct us is very dangerous. There is a very real spirit world out there and some of those spirits are evil and without the Lord you can sucume to their powers. These spirits get angry and can hurt you , please if you are dabbling in the ocult stop. It may seem wonderful right now but it can get very nasty very quickly and you could regret ever looking into it ! Pray for a closer walk with the Lord and he will enlighten you.

      • http://WWW.VERADONNA2.COM FLEURDELYS

        Mohamed nor god nor Jesus have promised women anything….Women were second class citizen in every race, religion and country in centuries ago. If these women didn’t fight, got killed and others kept the fight, we wouldn’t be here twitting and telling what we want. Bless the freedom you got and do something with it for the future.

      • http://gunner689 gunner689

        because this time they have you and your kind on their side.

      • Kate8

        Karolyn – If you had read the prophecies you’d know the answer to that.

        The is the ONLY time when all the signs have been, or are being, fulfilled. This is the time described in Revelation, when knowlege rapidly increases, and computers have brought information and technologies which could never have been before. Also, world events are unfolding exactly as described.

        People are also now able to understand the timing and the symbolism.
        Add to that the fact that nearly every culture (I don’t know of any who disagree), in their ancient teachings, marks this time as the Time of the End. And the sense of this is prevalent among diverse peoples, not just a few religious zealots.

        There are many, many signs. Check them out.

        We are also at the end of another galactic cycle, at which times civilizations have disappeared in previous cycles.

        It is also prophesied that, just as in the days of Noah, most people will mock and deride and refuse to listen to those giving warning. If you attune to the Heavenly energies, you will feel in in your gut.

      • Gene Husky

        I am so glad to see God being discussed.The more we focus on him the more strength we will have to fight the evil spirits from this blog.If the Lord of Lords is mentioned more,Obama will be history for sure

    • smithington

      Mary, I believe that the TRUE church (all who have been saved by FAITH ALONE in Jesus Christ) will be raptured before any of the Horsemen come for judgment. True believers will be raptured BEFORE chp. 4 of the book of Revelation.

      • PacificRim

        Yes, that is what will happen…here is something to think about:

        A prudent man foresses the difficulties ahead and prepares for them;

        the simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences. Proverbs 22:3

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        There are many Christians that believe in all three of the scenarios, that we will be gone before the tribulation, which are the pre-tribulation people, that we will experience some of it then be taken up, then there are those who think we will experience the whole tribulation, be put to death, then taken up. None of these are worth fighting and arguing over, as salvation doesnt hinge upon them. But according to what I read in my Bible, we will be taken up in the clouds with Jesus beforehand, but hey, I could be wrong. But fact is, He will be coming, and He will take us believers up, and woe to those who do not believe at that time. And the sad thing is, there are those who say “Well I dont want nothing to do with a God that is full of hate and would destroy me”. They dont understand, that God has made Himself evident all over the world, and is still to this day reaching into all unknown areas. Once everyone has had a chance to hear the Good Word, then He will come. And those who profess He doesnt exist, or that they dont need Him in their life, will all come to judgment before Him, just as you and I and all believers shall come before Him on bended knee, to give an account of ourselves to Him. At that time, those who never had time for Him, and said He doesnt exist and wanted nothing to do with Him, well, our ever loving God will give them the desires of their hearts, and tell them ” I will send you to a place where you will never be bothered by Me again or have to ever hear My name again.”. That is called righteousness to all you unbelievers out there. Its not hateful at all. He will give you the desires of your heart. It will be what you asked for and earned here on the earth. So maybe some of you might just want to re-examine what your doing, because there is coming a time, when it really will matter.

      • Granny Mae

        Amen !

      • Gene Husky

        Here is a truth.This is for the Athiest……Even the Devil believes in God!!!

      • home boy

        you better read rev 17&18 about what is going to happen to babylon the great the empire of false religion. no rapture there. all will be destroyed by the world governments.

      • smithington

        True. No rapture there….It already happened prior to Rev. ch. 4. All unbelievers will be here during chps. 17+18

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        In Isaiah and Revelation, there are parallell prophesies, discerning times then and in the future. If we dont learn from History, we are doomed to repeat it. Many evils and ills we and are being repeated, and people will pay for it.

      • S.C.Murf

        already happened, Baghdad is the ancient city of Babylon.

      • Teresa

        You need to read Isiah

      • S.C.Murf

        teresa can you be more specific? there are 66 chapters and all they talk about is sodom & gomorrah???????

      • Kate8

        S.C.Murf, Smithington, Haven’t you noticed? History repeats itself.

        There is nothing new under the sun.

      • Granny Mae

        America is becomming Sodom and Gomorah ! History does repeat itself !

      • hflashman

        Yo Smitty…so you’re saying that the remainder of the christian cult that doesn’t adhere to your sect’s interpertion are doomed to so-called hell? Interesting view…bought the good stuff from your dealer today eh?

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        No flashman, that is not correct. If he says that as you say, that is wrong. There is nothing you can do to earn the right to go to Heaven. And there is nothing you can do to earn a trip to eternal damnation. Its what you dont do that determines this. If you dont accept and invite Jesus Christ into your life, then you will have no life. Thats it. There is nothing you can do. It was all done when He spread His arms out, and said “I love you this much”, and took the nails for you on the cross. All you have to do is say “Lord, I need you in my life. Forgive my sins Jesus, I am yours”, and you sir, will have had a ticket to Heaven purchased for you via His blood on the cross. And as for going to the Lake of Fire, well that is where you buy a ticket to when you tell Jesus you dont believe in Him, that you dont have any room for Him in your life. And in the end, He will give you the desires of your heart, and send you to a place where you will never ever hear His name again or be bothered by his prescence. That is righteousness sir. He will give us all the desires of our hearts. Be assured of that.

      • S.C.Murf

        Amen, brother

      • smithington

        Brother Beberoni, Keep up the good work in your faithful witness of our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ. It is sometimes hard for me to be loving and patient to those who want to spew hate and discord, and are either possessed by the devil or at least greatly influenced by him. But, Christ died for these people too. Thank you for speaking the truth, in love. Christ promised us tribulation in this world and flashman is an example of this. “Maranatha”

      • Granny Mae

        Wonderful post, my friend in Christ Jesus.

    • hflashman

      Good thing your sect/cult is different than most eh? Hate to sit and have to believe that crap spewed out….

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      No Mary, we can not save ourselves. There is only one name by which men are saved, the name of Jesus Christ. Salvation is a gift of Grace from God, not by our works, let no man boast. So says the Lord.

      • smithington

        AMEN!

    • http://marcum@wildblue.net coal miner

      mary,

      Than go save yourself,give the rest of us a break.HA HA Ha

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Evidently your not reading here. We cannot save ourselves.

  • http://personalliberty.com had enough

    The WikiLeaks has been the best thing to happen to the USA ,instead of seeing it as threat ,look at it as a waning of just what Obama is really doing to our country, and allies. It just baffles me that no one can read our constitution, to the effect that he is not an American but an African ,by his father, and a Muslim by birth also.
    Wake up Ameica and right the wrongs done to by our own elected officals. It’s the peoples responsibility to dismantle this corruptied government an install a constitutally corect one.

  • Collen

    I too believe that he may be totall inept on the financial side of things due to his total lack of experience and education coupled with his socialist agenda, but his foreign policy dabbling is just plain sinister. He wants to be dictator and rule the western hemisphere while others work with him to carve up the east and european nations among themselves.
    I agree that Soros and the rest of the thugs behind the scenes as well as out front and in our faces (Bill Ayers, Van Jones, etc) all need to be eliminated from any facet of our government and society.
    They are nothing more than a cancer in our country!

    • castaway

      Well then, lets irradiate them!

    • Granny Mae

      Collen,

      Your words are more correct than most think. Just today there was a uprising in the house because Obama came out and made deals with the republicans that he didn’t OK first with his Democrat buddies. He sorta went over their heads and boy they didn’t like that at all. He thinks because he is president he can make all these decissions and circumvent the whole system. A dictatorship ! Nancy Pelosi didn’t like that at all. Now she is going to show Obama who is boss ! LOL ! We will see ! That woman is dangerous and most people can’t see that !

  • http://N/A H.D. Hemmings

    A very interesting view of the current President and his progressive liberal friends. Anyone who stays in touch with world events realizes that the entire world is moving in the wrong direction, especially the U.S. which has always had the ability, strength, and courage to act when called upon to do so in the protection of liberty and freedom.

    • eddie47d

      Many have said that we should have gone into Afghanistan in 2001 and been out of there in 6 months. It didn’t happen,not under Bush and not under Obama. So the conservative President and the liberal President blew it. Neither seemed to have a clear mission and the war has jumped the fire line into Pakistan.

      • hflashman

        Eddie…remember that Bush II went into Afghanistan…then let it stagnate while he concentrated on building the lies as an excuse for Iraq oto enrich Haliburton and Big Oil.

        Of course, the wacked right will say it’s old hat saying “blame it on Bush’…but truth is truth. And the Conservatives in power then lied and lied and lied…depending upon the ignorance and blind thoughtless adherence by the followers…i.e. signified by most of the posters here today.

      • S.C.Murf

        i don’t understand doesn’t anybody know that China is mining some sort of minerals in Afganistan while the U.K. and the U.S. are watching their children die. You say it’s Bush and then it’s Obama. They aren’t calling the shots someone else is. Com on people wake up

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        hflashman, you sure your handle shouldnt be dimbulb? I mean, come on man. Im sick of this Halliburton-Cheney-Bush, Bush-Cheney-Halliburton, Cheney-Bush-Halliburton, Cheney-Halliburton-Bush, Halliburton-Bush-Cheney. Did I leave anyone out? So here we go again, Bush-Cheney-Halliburton war for oil. Hey dimbulb, where is the oil? We never touched it, though I think we should have to pay for all this. But Bush-Cheney-Halliburton never had any designs on the Iraqi oil, that was all made up by the liberal left wing propaganda machine of the alphabet networks. Thats ABC,CBS,NBC,CNN and MSNBC since you probably dont know what that means. It never was about the oil dimbulb. If it was, we would have taken over the country and the oil. We would take over Saudi Arabia and their oil if we wanted to. Dont you get it? It was about striking back at the face of terrorism. And frankly, this is just a start. Id smack Iran around next, then take out all the warlords in Somalia, and I wouldnt stop until I knew all the Islamic terrorists were gone, or that they werent a threat anymore. Of course, libs like you are so arrogant that you think you can sit down and buy them a steak and a glass of wine, and that your going to change the way they think. I assure you sir, that is not going to happen. They will not stop trying to kill us, until we are dead, or they die trying. Its good against evil, cant you see that? They are driven by satan, and that is evident. Anyone, and I mean anyone who will purposely kill himself, or strap a bomb on the back of his 5 year old daughter, to kill people he doesnt even know, just because they are Jewish or Christian, well they are straight from the bowels of satan. Now if these Islamic nuts decide that they are going to back off and stop attacking us and trying to kill us, then Im all for leaving them alone to their device. But as long as they are sworn to kill us, and are actively trying to kill us, they must be stopped. Ahminijed is interested in the nuclear for one reason, to make a bomb and to use it. And if you think otherwise, your one sick puppy dimbulb. One sick misinformed puppy.

      • eddie47d

        Bush wasn’t after Oil? Take you head out of the Iraqi sand and smell the truth.

      • Sunshine49

        hflashman says:
        December 8, 2010 at 3:35 pm

        Eddie…remember that Bush II went into Afghanistan…then let it stagnate while he concentrated on building the lies as an excuse for Iraq oto enrich Haliburton and Big Oil.

        Of course, the wacked right will say it’s old hat saying “blame it on Bush’…but truth is truth. And the Conservatives in power then lied and lied and lied…depending upon the ignorance and blind thoughtless adherence by the followers…i.e. signified by most of the posters here today.

        If you had paid attention the last few days, you would have seen that the Wikileaks memos have vindicated Bush. That there really were WMDs in Iraq! For eight years now we have had to listen to the far left call Bush everything but a white man and then you knock the right for telling the truth about Obama. He may not be as evil as I think, but he sure isn’t the “Messiah” you think he is! NONE of us knows the whole truth. We are NOT in a recovery and even our own government is FINALLY starting to admit it. Unemployment is twice the numbers the government gives out and there are thousands of people living in tent cities — even people who voted for Obama! OUR Christian duty is to take care of the people who need our help right now through NO fault of their own. Things are going to get worse all over the world. The international bankers (including our Fed) have set it up to fail. There is ten times the debt in the world as there are assets to cover it. The only thing that backs the American dollar is the slavery of the people and more and more of them are out of work. Logic and common sense should tell everyone that all the bailouts (on borrowed money) are NOT going to work! We have followed the Pied Piper for too long and there’s no way to get out of having to pay the Piper. The politicians have NOT done their JOBS and they have ALL failed the public. It is going to be left up to us to pick up the peices and put this Republic back together again. What I’d like to hear on this blog is some constructive ideas on how people can survive when our economy collapses? Buying gold and silver is a logical alternative to the demise of the worthless Federal Reserve note! I hope every one of you has stocked up on food and other needs — JUST IN CASE! Does it really matter WHO is doing it to us? What matters is that we recognize what is headed our way and do our best to protect ourselves and the people we care about. Believing the government at this late date is ludicrous! Or would you rather take the chance that the government isn’t lying to us “this time” and “hope” that you won’t have to rob and kill others to survive?

        I personally believe what Revelations in the Bible tells us and I believe that is where we are headed right now. I’m putting my trust in the Lord and not the government to “save” me! If you pray for anything, pray to understand what God wants you to do and then DO IT!
        “HE” will NOT lie to you! If God bring us to it — He will bring us through it! First we need to “save” our souls and the rest will follow. It is your choice in life whether you will follow good or evil. Just because something is called good doesn’t mean it IS good!
        Listen to your heart and let your conscience be your guide — because that is God speaking to you. Don’t knock others for what they believe. If you can enlighten another with TRUTH, that is a good thing, but to ridicule others is NOT a good thing.

        The MOST important thing right now is that we do everything in our power to help our fellow human beings to get prepared for whatever is coming. The government does enough lying to the people. We do NOT need to back up their lies! Prepare yourself and help your neighbors! That is the “right” thing to do! May God bless you with understanding and wisdom so that you can become a beacon of light to those who are in the dark. You can’t “force” others to follow. You can only lead by example. Become the “change you can believe in” so that others can follow your example. Good luck in this uncertain future.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Of course the whole world is moving in the wrong direction. In Europe, God has been kicked to the curb for so long, so many over there dont even know who He is. And those in America, the ACLU, Moveon.org, the Democratic Party, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN and MSNBC, and may others, have banished God and want Him removed from everywhere, even going as far as trying to rewrite History to remove Him. Yes sir, we are definitely going in the wrong direction. But there is one King to come yet, who will make all wrongs right. You can bet on that.

      • Granny Mae

        It is the Lord that we need to turn to at this time and kick the ACLU in the fanny and demand our right to worship as we please.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Amen sister, Amen. People, listen to the voice of wisdom in this lady.

      • Karolyn

        Who said you can’t worship as you please?

      • Granny Mae

        Karolyn,

        There are things going on against the churches in this country that you must not be aware of ! Some of it is isnstuted by the government. If you want freedom of religion here today you need to be muslim ! They can do anything they want but don’t try their stuf if you are a Methodist, Luthern or Catholic ! Or most any other faith for that matter. Some of these religious TV stations have been discriminated against for years. They have had to fight in court for every minute of air time they have and at times have been told what they could and couldn’t say etc. There is a lot more going on in the religious field that you can imagine and especially if you don’t go to church on a regular basis, which most people don’t today ! It is really too bad. ! Pastors have even been told that they couldn’t discuss political matters with their congregations at election time. Matters that effect the church and her congregations could not be mentioned, especially if the church recieved a tax exempt status from the government ! Some churches recieved funding from the government for programs like feeding the hungry and drug abuse programs, so the government has told them that if they want to continue to recieve those funds they cannot make a stand against abortion or other matters promoted by the government. Even though the programs the churches were providing were of a great aid to the government and saved them more money than the government supplied. Religion isn’t as free as you might think Karolyn.

      • Granny Mae

        Sorry about the typing but this is a day when the fingers are rebelling.

      • eddie47d

        Don’t have any problems at my church so stop grasping at straws.

      • http://WWW.VERADONNA2.COM FLEURDELYS

        You could practice your religion as you wish and worship who ever you like. Perhaps you misunderstand the constitution of United State of America…It is said this way “Seperation of religion from the state” not the people. We seperate the church from the state when governing because this country is not Christian nor jewish nor Muslim.
        The whole world with there own religions and race are part of this country and each one is free to practice his religion.
        But that doesn’t mean you are going to impose yours upon the rest of the Americans. Your religion is done between you and your god and not between you and the government.
        We don’t use the religion to govern…It is personnel.

    • herman richardson

      Liberty and freedom HERE????????????????????????? I guess you have your eyes shut, just because we have not been told to board the trains, we have very little freedom, wake up before it is too late!!!!!

      • Karolyn

        Puhleeze Herman! We have more freedom here than most places in the world. We should be grateful for what we have!

      • Granny Mae

        You had more freedom but that is all about to change very soon. For one your ability to say your thoughts on this blog may soon come to an end when the government takes it’s liberty to sensor the internet! You are loosing your freedoms one by one and it is happening real fast. Karolyn keep a close watch and see for yourself.

  • Wendy Price

    Go John. Agreed

  • Wendy Price

    Darkly sinister is my answer. I was around for the bullcrap that took place in the name of Dr. King. This was then and is now about people who do not have what it takes to go out and make it on their own taking it from people who are successful. It is about social revolution born of racial radicalism and Obama is the chief idiot running this show. I say idiot because he is stupid enough to allow Soros to pull his strings. If I sound angry, it is because I am. We need to stop Obama, Soros, Van Jones and all these other worthless socialists who would rather steal than get a real job and earn money. No! I am not wealthy. Not even close. I am a decent, hard working individual who is fed up with great societies, open societies and societies in general who want everything handed to them.

    • TIME

      Wendy,
      Barry Soetoro ~ is owned lock stock and barrel and he is only a puppet.
      George Soros is also only a puppet as well. Thus you need to look much deeper and yet the family’s name is well know, try the Rothschilds from this well springs all.

      • Norm

        TIME
        You’re drinking the Jonestown cocktail again.

      • TIME

        Norm,

        Yet one more of your pointless mindless and just utterly stupid post. But then again agressive stupidity if fostered and you work diligently to foster your agressive stupidity.

        If it were just that you were ignorant, that could be cured.
        But saddly your agressive stupidity is vividly clear to even a rock.

        But thanks for playing again.

      • Michael J.

        Time,
        “Agressive Stupidity” Most appropriate, well done!

      • Norm

        TIME
        When it comes to insults and mindless ignorance, you are indeed number one.
        Aggressiveness without substance is a very sad and dangerous situation. You have my sympathy!

      • Michael J.

        Norm says:
        December 8, 2010 at 8:31 am
        TIME
        When it comes to insults and mindless ignorance, you are indeed number one.
        Aggressiveness without substance is a very sad and dangerous situation. You have my sympathy!
        —————————————————————–
        Hey Norm, are you schizophrenic? Because the other voice inside your head just said this:

        Norm says:
        December 8, 2010 at 7:57 am
        TIME
        You’re drinking the Jonestown cocktail again

      • Denniso

        ‘Like Lyndon Johnson on meth’?? What the hell is that supposed to mean? John Meyers appears to be trying 2 approaches at the same time…smear Obama over the complexities of foreign diplomacy and a very complicated and dangerous world that he is trying to deal with, and whip up more fear and loathing in order to stoke the price of gold,one of the goals of this site and most rightwing sites.

        Diplomacy is always messy and two faced and this is nothing new… The only new thing is the countries involved. We can’t forget that Obama inherited two of the longest wars in our history from none other than Bush/Cheny,who couldn’t or didn’t finish either one. Where is the appropriate scorn for Bush’s lack of focus and attention to the wars? We should never have been in Afghanistan for 9 yrs under Bush in the first place,and never should have invaded Iraq.

        No, the rightwing has one political goal…destroy Obama in any way possible no matter the cost to the country, and no matter the lies and manipulation and hypocrisy they have to engage in to do it. They are pretty good at that,though nothing else of consequence.

      • eddie47d

        Yes, I think Meyers is stirring up trouble with all the half truths he commented on. Denniso could be right about him stirring the pot to increase gold prices for I have seen that in other investment articles.

      • Kate8

        Norm, Denniso, eddie, The ONLY reason you, and a few more, show up here everyday is to mock, insult and refute.

        It’s always same old, same old. Yada yada. Zzzzzzzzzz.

      • eddie47d

        Then stop mocking,insulting and refuting every opposing opinion. You don’t walk on water anymore than we do.

      • Kate8

        eddie, Unlike your ilk, mocking is not the reason I’m here. I enjoy reading what John, Bob, Ben and others have to say, because they have done their research, have common sense and provide a forum for discussion. And it’s one of the only places I can find like-minded, sane folks who pay attention and have a grasp of reality.

        Liberals, on the other hand, are all around me. I’ve heard it all. I crave some sane voices.

        You are only here to be contrary and spout more liberal idiocy. Your ONLY reason is to mock, and you KNOW most of us will disagree with you. Big difference.

      • denniso

        I try to inject some actual reason into discussions that are often so absurd that I can barely believe the comments. If I sometimes mock some of the most ridiculous posts,it’s because there’s nothing else to say to people who sound like they are behind bars,which they could be. If I sometimes insult people,it’s nothing compared to the name calling and insults tossed at me.

        Once again,Kate is doing what other rightwingers do…point an accusatory finger at those who are usually just defending themselves while she ignores the worst of insulting,violent,racist and name calling comments from her side of the aisle. Crocodile tears, dear.

      • JC

        Keep stirring the pot. We need all the anti-statist, anti-Obama sentiment we can muster. The best thing we can do is arm ourselves to the teeth, disobey all unConstitutional law, challenge statist authority on every level and stamp out communist thinking in the Land of the Free.

      • eddie47d

        Ben does little research and puts very little thought into what he says Kate.

      • BobDin

        You maybe on to sometime. It’s obvious that Obama himself is an incompetent empty suit.

      • home boy

        you left the puppet master out of you line up. that being satan .maybe you don’t remember him. and that’s what he is banking on that you don’t remember him

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        I wouldnt doubt if George Soros even owns the Rothschilds now.

      • JeffH

        TIME, you can lead a horse to water but that doesn’t mean it will drink…it’s all there if they choose to see it.

        I saw that HFlash cited Goldman Sachs above in one of his “shovel ready” comments. Now who controls Goldman Sachs again?

        The Rothschilds are the puppet masters of the world and Goldman Sachs is their star puppet being in the forefront of every major financial catastrophe in recent history and benefiting each time. They quietly backed Obama well before he was a candidate for President and have been getting dividends on their investment ever since.

        Goldman Sachs probably owes it’s survival to the fact it has long served as a front or partner with JP Morgan, meaning the Rothschild empire, just as the JP Morgan company survived by being a front for the Rothschild family. While Morgan has a market cap of over $130 billion, the Rothschild fortune is estimated to be as high as $200 trillion, not billion. That is more than the annual budgets of every nation on earth, actually more than every nation’s budget on earth combined. The largest budget by far is the USA at $3.44 trillion with $11.2 trillion in debt, pocket change to the Rothschild family.

      • home boy

        see what i mean about noone believing in satan’s existence. you still think it’s the rothschilds. wake up and read your bible

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Your right. When it all comes down at the end, all the money the Rothschilds and George Soros and Al Gore have accumulated together, is not going to do them any good. God does not differentiate between rich and poor, and will judge us all alike, and not one of us will be able to take it with us. Rather, God will determine a person’s wealth, by what they have give to others, not by what they have accumulated on earth, like mere men do. As it is written “Do not store up your treasures on earth where rust and moth will eat them, and they will be left for others to enjoy when your gone”. No, rather it says “Store up your treasures in Heaven”. Im thinking the Rothschilds might get a rude awakening one day.

    • gorrie

      Right on .

    • Dennis

      Wendy, I agree with you. This bunch on the welfare roles live to get from those that work. The crowd in DC live for power and controll through those that are to lazy to work and earn their own way in life. Our foriegn policy is only smoke and mirrows, obama and crowd are up to something more sinister than we realize or can even dream.

      • Louie

        You wanna bet I don’t know what is going on & it has nothing to do with dreams, but reality. When are we gonna quit talking & do something…I’m ready!

      • denniso

        you sound like you are inciting violence, is that your actual intent?
        You two have been watching too many armegeddon movies and not using your brains to think with.

      • JC

        Fishing Denniso? we’ve got your number.

      • Denniso

        Oh, and just what do you think he meant by his comment? Fishing? I don’t even have to use any bait.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Armageddon is coming one day denniso, and all your lawyers, guns and money wont get you out of it. Count on that.

      • Denniso

        The guys who wrote about Armaegeddon 2000 yrs ago were so much in the dark that it’s laughable to base anything upon what they said. Thet still thought the sun revolved aroud the earth and had no clue what the universe is. Every generation of Christians since then has thought they were going to be the ones privleged to see the end and join their God while the rest would be left behind to battle evil forever. It’s way past time to give up on myths and especially to base one’s life on them.

      • Granny Mae

        Drnnis and Louie,

        Praise be someone knows whats going on !

      • eddie47d

        These same problems have occured under every President.With advancements in distributing information (whether Wikileaks or internet usage)you will only see more of it. Bush was exposed and now Obama is being exposed even more. Are Presidents more evil or do we have the means to slice and dice them at a greater speed?

      • Karolyn

        Very good point Eddie

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        The only way the liberal left wing democrats stay around, is by making people dependant on them, who blindly keep voting for them. And I say blindly, because these same people who are living on these government handouts with WIC, welfare and foodstamps and all the others, always vote democrat. And these same democrats they vote for, have kept them down for decades, dependant on the man. And thats the fact. And I say blindly, because they are blind, they just dont see it. The democrats are black mans worst enemy, and yet over 85 percent of them vote democrat. How in the heck does that work? Why would you vote for someone who keeps you down and in your place and keeps you from becoming anything other than dependant on them for a handout? Its rediculous and shameful.

      • Karolyn

        Beberoni – Most people on Welfare don’t even vote!

      • Kate8

        Karolyn, If only that were true.

        Democrats have massive get-out-the-vote campaigns, where people are bribed, cajoled and scared into voting democrat.

        When they sign up for welfare, they are given voter’s registrations. Then they are told how they must vote to keep the money coming. And that is all these folks care about, since they, for the most part, know nothing about the state of the nation, or what anyone stands for.

        Dirty, rotten politics. Plain old election fraud. They’ll stop at nothing to win.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        That is baloney Karolyn. Even here in the middle sized city I live in, the black leaders somehow get the use of city buses and school buses, and go down into the inner city, and load them up with people, the so called poor people, and take them to the polls in large numbers to vote for their democrats, then take them home. Some of them even pay these people a stipend for voting. And I know this goes on in cities like Chicago, Philadelphia, Miami, Detroit, and many, many others. The democrat leaders go into the hoods and pay people to come vote democrat,under the threat that they will lose their food stamps and welfare if they dont, because the evil white republicans want to take it from them. And dont you think for a moment this kind of baloney doesnt exist, because it is alive and well nationwide.

      • Granny Mae

        Beberoni,

        You got it right. I read the book Up From Slavery by Booker T. Washington and in it he said that the biggest problem with his people was that they were lazy. (His words not mine). He went on to say that when they were given their freedom most all of them wanted to be preachers because they figured they only had to work one day a week and got paid for the whole week ! Same thing is going on today. Government picked up on that mentality and put them on welfare and they are content to stay that way as long as their check keeps coming in ! Funny thing is I have seen many of them work harder to stay on welfare than what it would take for them to get a job and get a real life and enjoy a lot more than what they have now. Not all blacks are like this but the ones that are will never change. You will know them when you see them. They sit around under the trees in old broken down furniture doing nothing all day but jaw jacking with their cronnies. They move into a new neighborhood and within two years it will look like a slum. Their homes stay that way until bleeding heart organizations come along and go fix their homes for free or the government does it for them for free. The gov. in this case being us hard working lower middle income folks that pay all the taxes that idiots like Obama want to give away. I have no use for anyone that won’t work and take care of themselves. If they are working and really trying I will give them the shirt off my back, but if they don’t work they get nothing !

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Have you ever heard of Dr. Harry Edwards? I believe that is his name. The wisest man Ive ever heard speak. He tells of black man being his own worst enemy, and tells them to quit blaming the white man for everything and get to work. But when youve got all these leading democrats, telling them the Republicans are evil white people out to take away their handouts, and they arent educated in politics enough to know that they are being lied to, then history keeps repeating itself, and the democrats continue to keep them down and dependant on government handouts. And believe me, I have many friends, black, white, hispanic, asian, from all walks of live. We all are brothers in Jesus Christ. And the democrats continue to prey upon these inner city people, do nothing for them but give them a handout designed to keep them dependant on the government. And these people are blind to the fact that as long as they are content to live off these handouts and dont recognize the damage it is doing to them and their culture, then history will continue to repeat itself generation after generation. And its a shame. All to get votes. Amazing.

      • Granny Mae

        Beberoni,

        Yes it is a shame. I too have friends from many different ethnic groups, and also have family members that are black but none of them are lazy. If only we could get through to them that education was their best hope ! Too bad the progressives have all but distroyed our educational system and the kids are not learning the truth about this country they live in. They are being told lies about the white man and because the lies are coming from other blacks they hold those words as gospel ! They are learning to hate and that is their downfall. I worked with a man that came here from Hungry and he said that when he got here he had family to live with and $20.00 in his pocket. By the end of the first week he had a drivers license and a job and it was all good from there on out. He had been here 15 years when I met him and he was building his own home and everything he was paid for and he had a good job. His very one advantage was that he had a very good education. He grew up knowing that he had to have an education to make something of himself and to him that was important ! He was a machineist where I worked. A hard working man and always busy doing something. He had his own airplane and air strip on his property. He didn’t put on airs but was just a simple everyday person with a great work ethic ! Any one can do the same thing if they just want to bad enough to focus in on that goal and work at it all the time till they reach their goal. Some people are blessed with a brain that learns easier but all of us have a freat brain that we use very little of. I told my kids to just put it to work and they have and have done pretty well. My niece has a black daughter that she has raised by herself and I want to tell you that that child is amazing ! She is beautiful, smart, talented and has a great personality. Nothing lazy about that child and she starts college next year on a scollarship ! She is going to be someone special some day. Heck as far as I’m concerned she already is someone special ! Her mom did a good job with her.

      • Gene Husky

        I have been reading comments for an hour or so.I could not resist adding my stupidity.I am afraid we are all in for a rude awakening.If we could just figure what the Obama agenda really is we will all pass out from shock.I have heard rumers of some super bad plans.Like I said I have heard rumers.They have come from high sources which I an not at liberty to disclose.What would it take to form a one world government?If we look for the symptoms,just look around.The economy is in shambles.The value of the dollar is very degraded.The banks have all the money.The large companies getting government control.The rights of americans getting less and less.Completely remove prayer and God from all the schools.Going against the teachings of the Bible.Giving homosexuals more rights than heteralsexuals.Men marring men,and weman marring weman.The ACLU calling all the shots when it comes to morals.The sad part is, this is just a few of the things.Last but by no means least….Obama got permission from the world order to run for President.I am sorry if I offended anyone.But then again the ones that are offended by what I said deserves it…Be Gental now………!!!

      • Gene Husky

        I am also sorry for my misspelling…If I knew where to click to edit it maybe I could fix it, or maybe not…Just dumb I guess…

    • Another Voice

      And I think it is high time for the big money folks to start working and stop relying on our government to channel all of our hard-earned tax dollars to them for projects which will line their pockets but provide nothing of value to the working class. We have been a welfare state for 60 years, but it’s the worst kind of socialism – it’s more like communism: most of the wealth and resources are controlled by a small group of people who decide how much the other 98% are allowed to have.

    • Kate8

      Wendy – One thing many people (especially the Left) seem to be missing is that the redistribution of wealth is NOT for OUR POOR, anyway. They are taking US wealth and redistributing it to FOREIGN countries and FOREIGN ELITE BANKERS. Of course, our own treasonous government lot are getting their payoffs for doing it.

  • http://http/aol.com john littlefield

    this muslim president is dangerous he is not my president but an empty siut.

    • hflashman

      Yep…alarmist rhetoric ungrounded in reality and ignoring realpolitik with the sales pitch for gold at the end. And this crowd of regular maniacal posters will eat it up like jackals and post insane, wild, untrue and dangerous commentary which, if taken, will send this Nation into the pariah rogue status of Bush II.

      One must bear in mind the adage ‘follow the money’. And that, folks, is the underlying motive behind Myers writing todays wild reckless and ignorant lunacy. The economy is coming back, The “deal’ President Obama cut with the corrupt GOP leadership extends unemployment, cuts payroll taxes, give tax breaks to real small business start ups, and gives the Middle Class its tax relief….at the cos of the tax subsidy for the welthy to the tune of $600 bil. cost.

      Manufacturing is up, retail sales up, employment growing, and on and on. Every economic sign is in the positive. We are well on the way in the Obama Recovery (note…NOT the GOP Recovery..the party which has opposed every economic policy this admin has proposed. If they had their way, we’d be mired in another Depression).

      So go ahead folks…Myers shilled for gold to make his XMas present budget. Go ahead and buy into his rantings. Help him out and lose your shirt.

      • PacificRim

        You are such a fool…you won’t believe until it is too late.

      • Jana

        flashman,
        According to you John Myers is selling gold. Now lets see, which company is he representing? Oh yes, and when Personal Liberty talks about storing food, what companies do they represent?
        Hmmm, I can’t find any links to any certain company. So just how is he making any money from recommending that we buy and hold on to gold, or store food and water?
        Wow, I am so glad the economy is coming back. A 1% growth in 2 yrs.(yippee) and we are now back up to 9.8% unemployment, yep that’s real growth there folks.
        We would have been much better off without the bailouts and let the economy come back on its own. Nature has a way of weeding out the deadbeats, and we should have allowed nature to take its course.

      • hflashman

        Goldman Sachs came out with adjusted growth figures raising their estimate for 2011 from 2.7 to 3.7. And your data you cite are those when we were mired in the GOP Recession. Turth seems to be an unknown to you…or your mental swiftness is akin to a herd of turtles wading through peanut butter. Which is it you admit to?

      • FireMall

        @ hflashman says:
        We are well on the way in the Obama Recovery (note…NOT the GOP Recovery..the party which has opposed every economic policy this admin has proposed. If they had their way, we’d be mired in another Depression).
        ————————————————————————
        If Obama’s Recovery plan is doing so well and Banks are posting record profits , SO, Why are they now receiving a “Third” round of Bailout money ?? With “We The People” suppling All the Overhead cost plus Profits how could the Dot Gov banks post anything but a profit ? Hint Dot Gov could not produce a Profit from a Gov Owned entitie if they ate the golden egg and blew it out their wazzus.
        Not to mention a .25% prime rate that returns anywhere from 8% to 30% interest from the “Same” taxpayers that already fund them at 100%.

        For one thing the so called Profits amount to No more than Taxes via Dot “O”‘s Gov owned bank’s extortion / confiscation, & Redistribution, . Which said Profits ,as you call it, are Not Being redistributed Back into America’s industrial infrastructure but “are” going into the Obama World Utopia Economy of Cooked Books for The Greater Good of Globalization .
        Proof in point, Did you miss the news that Toyota , A wholly owned Japanese corp also got Billions of American Tax funded Bailouts along with several other Non-American corps.??.

      • hflashman

        Firemall: What ‘third round’ of bank bailout? And what government bailout of Toyota? Have any source or link to provide? If it was on FOX…I missed it since I watch news, not entertainment and fiction.

      • Jana

        flashy,
        You are the one who wouldn’t know the truth if it hit you on your head. And I see you are your normal RUDE crude selfish self.

      • Granny Mae

        Jana,

        Amen ! You have it right !

      • JC

        Some interesting commentary from a Brit on the Islamization of Sweden
        and it’s (intended?) results:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZtc2ma2GEQ

        That photo at the top of this article looks like “pure evil” to me.

      • http://personelliberty MikeW

        You are a blind fool all of what you said is wrong and all of what you stand for is misguided …………

      • hflashman

        Mike…love what you say is untrue yet you can’t negate it with any facts.

        Face reality Sparky. Foreign policy … the situation with pakistan is all Bush II/GOP created. Note the recent alignment with India during the recent State visit. Note the attacks across the borders hitting the Taliban which pakistan is complaining about. Note we need pakistan for our supply routes to the troops. Yet…you offer no alternative.

        Note N. Korea. We stood strong refsuing to ater the war games when NK shelled the island. N.Korea is getting a pile of grief from China. What more can you ask for?

        Iran. Just because publically the administation isn’t waving the armor…when Bush II would have used it to fan fear and create tensions which would increase greatly the odds of a shooting war … doesn’t mean diplomatically behind closed dorrs stuff isn’t occuring. even Myer’s in his twisted article implies there’s a whole movement behind diplomatic doors we as the public have no awareness of … and quite honestly, with the GOP throwing us under the bus every chance they get to forward their corrupt ways….I’m kind of glad of that. Too bad the GOPand many of the posters want to tos the security of this Nation away just to vent unwarranted fear and hatred garnered through ignorance and the unwillingness to think.

        And economically? You don’t see the clear signs of the recovery from the worst economic mess since the 30′s? Bush II/Cheney and the Gang of theives aka theGOP…DROVE THIS NATION INTO THE GROUND. And somehow you figure it was the fault of this admin. Twisted thinking there Sparky…unreal.

      • S.C.Murf

        where did you hear or read that china was giving a lot of grief to n. korea??????

      • FireMall

        Maybe “We The Thinking People” remember Bush has not been in the oval office for nearly 2 years and was Not in power 2 years before the 2008 elections when the Demons of crap became the Pirate Profiteers of Cater & Clinton’s mortgage crisis.
        Blame the dead horse for pooping in the river all you want, however it is way past time to accept what’s in office right here & now.
        Google , Bush warns congress of mortgage meltdown 4 times.
        BTW; Demons were in charge of Fannie Mae & Freddie long before Bush was elected or left office.

      • hflashman

        SC…The Daily Telegraph and the Euronews network.

      • wally

        gosh lol typical demorat pass the blame game going on

      • Palin12

        flashinthe pan,
        Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

      • MJ Montana

        How do you think the price going up helps Myers other than it proves he gave the right advice? What do you think: he is a super billionare and has cornered the gold market like the Hunts did the silver market 30 years ago? Or maybe he is like that super villian Goldfinger and is about to gas Fort Knox?

      • hflashman

        I know i know…those secondary emails shilling for gold which come from this site are no way connected to this site or ownership.

      • libertytrain

        they are more likely advertiser’s paying to help keep the site up and running — like any advertising for other sites, newspapers, magazines, TV, radio, etc.

      • Vigilant

        libertytrain,

        It’s useless trying to explain Capitalism to a statist.

      • Granny Mae

        flashman and another voice,

        I’m wondering if the two of you have put away a food supply and a little gold for a possible collapse ? Doesn’t matter to me who caused it, it is coming and I just want to get through it ! I’m not afraid cause I have prepared and I have God Almighty on my side !

      • old white guy

        half-flash, you liberal socialists are a strange breed. no matter how bad things get i am sure all the big o supporters will bury their heads in the sand close their ears and go na nanananana. too bad sport, the crap relly hasn’t hit the fan yet but it will.

      • Another Voice

        Flashman, you are right on. I think this whole newsletter is just a way to scare people into investing in these schemes.

        Who was the guy who said that negotiating with the Republicans was just like negotiating with terrorists? He was right, too.

        If the rich get to keep their tax cuts, then I don’t want to hear any more Republicans emoting about the debt we’re passing down to our children and grandchildren!

      • wally

        ask a poor man to give you a job lol

      • hflashman

        Wally…the so-called trickle down theory is just that…or haven’t you listened to David Stockman lately who calls it the biggest scam in American histroy. They trickle down on us…ya like to be urinated on and take Golden Showers?

        Let’s see…give tens of millions of American Middle Class tax breaks..and they’ll buy tens of millions of goods and the facotries will hum. Give a few hundred thousand wealthy elite a tax break…a) they don’t need it; b) they won’t increase jobs since no one can afford to buy the goods produced; c) the luxury boat and jewelry businesses will do OK…and the remainder will stagnate.

        Jeesh…

      • Vigilant

        Tell the whole story, Flush,

        From CBS: “We have now got both parties essentially telling a big lie with a capital B and a capital L to the public,” Stockman tells Stahl. “And that is that we can have all this government, 24 percent of GDP, this huge entitlement program, all of the bailouts and yet, we don’t have to tax ourselves and pay our bills. That’s delusional.”

        Solution is simple: Reduce and decimate “all this government, 24 percent of GDP, this huge entitlement program,” and you’ve got your answer.

      • Vigilant

        “Who was the guy who said that negotiating with the Republicans was just like negotiating with terrorists? He was right, too.”

        Uh, that was your man Obama, the “bipartisan cooperation” man who finally got some bipartisan cooperation and then pouted about the compromise. Instead of lauding the success of compromise, he saw it once again as an opportunity to show that he is president of the Democrats and not POTUS.

        Two years after the election and he’s STILL in campaign mode. Maybe because that’s the only thing he can do well.

      • Sharon Mancuso

        Get the brain dead Obama out of office & all will improve,he is destroying the USA….

      • old white guy

        take every single dime the top 10 percent of the wealthy have and you will not run the u.s. government for six months. after that money is gone then whose money do you take?

      • FireMall

        Just what currency would you suggest that people invest in ?
        Have you not seen the dollar for it’s real value ?
        Hint. The dollar cannot be worth any more than the debt holding it up. Which will soon change in ways our lying azzed Leaders have not told us about. Something about a “Run on the Banks” is what “They” are deathly afraid of for some reason. Seems kinda hypocritical considering Dot Gov already Drained the banks with their run on the Banks & left nothing in the dollar’s place but worthless IOU’s & World Bank promissory notes / Unsustainable Debt for American’s to retire on..
        The mow World powers , China, Russia, Japan, etc are about to drop the dollar as the World Reserve currency. What could go wrong with this ?? All nations up to this point have used the Dollar to buy Oil, Food, Commodities since the end of WW2. Which, when the dollar ceases to be the World currency standard means America will pay double for it’s needs. If “We” can purchase anything whatsoever with a Bankrupt checking account & No available Credit line.
        Thus, The reason for converting to the Gold standard before it’s banned By Dot Gov. Can’t blame capitalism for this one. Look what party is in power & what type Gov they represent.
        It wouldn’t hurt to look at Who is pulling the Demon’s strings either, if you want to see the top of the hill & Who is Sitting up there looking down & smiling at the Fools below doing his bidding / destructing of American Capitalism. . .
        The Brits dam well remember who “HE” is. The man that force fed Britain Socialism via hostile takeovers & hedge funding.

      • Zeromonet

        The ‘so called $250,000 millionaires’ are the job makers! Continue this hate speech against them and raise, yes I said raise taxes on them and there will be no jobs. It is ironic how the unions have been screaming for jobs but none of the lefties want what it takes to create jobs. Perhaps you might try to beg the Obamas for some of their real millions.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        flash baby, when are you going to ever learn? I do have to admire your consistancy. At least if nothing else, you are consistant. But son, sooner or later, youve got to be able to see the writing on the wall. How many times must this Obama fellow falter and screw up, before you actually notice that maybe this wasnt a good idea putting an unknown and unqualified muslim in the office of President? How many things must he screw up? But you see, there is a light lit for this guy, if he would take it. If he will turn his back on the dumb and stupid liberal left, and actually work with the Republicans to get things done for the betterment of this country, he still has a chance to make a good name for himself in his presidency. Or he can stay on the track he is on, and leave being right there in the standings with Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton as being the worst to ever sit in the White House.

      • hflashman

        Seems to me, as well as anyone who has half a brain and is more intelligent than a monkey…this admin has done a fair to middlin’ job to take us out of the worst recession since the 30′s. Of course, you don’t cite those “failures’ you speak of…wacked lunatic right wngers never do. Pesky facts get in their way…

      • Granny Mae

        hey gang,

        There is his problem, he has half a brain and is content with a fair to middlin job ! Now we know !

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Hey ding dong, your hiding from the facts. This admin has taken unemployment from 4.5 to 10 percent. And you want to blame that on someone else? Unbelievable. Bush took over a huge recession from Clinton, and in 2 years he had the economy rolling. So question is, why cant Obama, and he even has a democrat congress and house to work with for these last two years. What is the excuse flashy boy? You cannot go through life blaming others. There comes a time for a man to step up and be held accountable for his actions. Now with an equal comparison, even though Bush took over quite a bit bigger recession, his admin rolled up their sleeves, went to work, and got the ball rolling. The Obama admin has rolled up their sleeves, and pointed their fingers at others, without doing nothing but making the national debt grow larger and larger. And these sir, are the facts, the 100 percent truth, and if you choose to ignore the facts, then you sir are part of the problem in this country. The truth is the truth is the truth, and it will set you free son. Your boy has failed, and he has failed miserable. He has made things worse, much worse, and has compounded any problems we have had by making them larger. Those are the stone cold truthful facts son. You cannot change what is, for what is, is what it is. The truth. He has failed.

      • Vigilant

        Grannie Mae: GOOD CATCH! LOL!

      • JC

        Flash, that is an especially absurd assertation.
        You see, you are myopically “stuck” in the left / right blame game.
        This obstinence of yours will forever keep you from seeing the big picture.
        The system itself is evil. And we are presently seeing America going down in flames…under the most recent President. Did he do this all by himself in two years? NO!
        But is he giving anyone the “Hope and Change” from that evil system? HELL NO!
        He’s using every excuse in the book to blame someone else for his failings and is very probably the most inneffective and damaging Pres. in US history.

        The entire system needs a major enema as it is so full of…

      • Shibamom

        Really??? “…this admin has done a fair to middlin’ job to take us out of the worst recession since the 30′s. How do you figure that one? You really are blind, aren’t you?

      • patriotpartisan

        Where are these jobs u and Obama speak of? Why have doubt in any one but Obama and his double speak blame game? How are you so confident ur accusations are true but this news letter and all it’s crazy followers are dead wrong? I would like to hear for once why Right Wing is just folowing a theory or a hunch, even flat out lying, but the Left is correct and being sabotaged! Please, enlighten us with the truth, NOT ur Leftist propaganda rhetoric.

      • Barbara Swisher

        Are you kidding me??? Crawl back in your liberal dung hole and stay there. You are an idiot.

      • http://Alaska Wild Bill

        Flash
        Were you born stupid,or did you take lessons to become this ignorant of history and facts?.
        Wild Bill
        Alaska

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        When flash chooses to say very stupid things like Obama has done a good job and accomplished a lot, when he fully knows we all can see the truth and the fruits of Obama’s labor, which is tripling the debt, weakening us to our enemies, growing government, expanding social handouts, doubling unemployment, well sir, all these things show and bring to the light, that flashy is either a real dumb a-s, or he is just uneducated to the truth. Or he is just plain evil. One of the three have to be true in this case, because the truth of the matter of what Obama has done, are total opposite of what flash boy is saying.

      • michelleo

        Bereroni – that’s it in a nutshell – well said!!!!!

      • John

        You are an idiot. The “deal” Obama cut with the GOP should have included real “tax cuts”, not simply an extension of current tax rates. How come you think “tax cuts” cost money? The government is NOT giving taxpayers a check. They are letting us keep more of our own money. Do you trust the government to spend your money better than you? Everything the government runs is broken. The deficit was not caused by tax cuts but rather by over spending.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        You see, thats the thing. Liberals like hflashman, want the government to run everything and do everything for them. They cannot understand how letting us all keep our money, will give us cash in hand, that we use to BUY things, that generate sales in business, that generate sales tax, that keep people working and get more people working that generate federal income tax, and these business buy materials from other business, and everybody prospers when we are allowed to keep the money we earn and have extra to spend. The liberals are so blind that they think if the government just taxes the living shi! out of us, that they will have more money, to take care of us all, and thats what the liberals want. Me, no thank you. Im a man. I do not need the government to take care of me, and I do now want the government to give me handouts. I also know, that as Thomas Jefferson once said, “A government big enough to give you everything, is also big enough to take it away”.

      • Shibamom

        Hear, hear…well said. I am a woman and I sure as hell don’t want the Gov’t taking over my life. I’ve done things my way, good or bad, rich or poor, and I’ve made it this far. I don’t need the Gov’t telling me how to live my life, spend my money or whatever’s left of it after they get the grubby paws on it, how to feed myself, etc. The Gov’t needs to get OUT OF OUR LIVES!!!

      • Dianne Heinz

        It not a cost … it’s just someones assets they had hoped to get. That’s like counting your chickens before they hatch, how can some “cost” you unless you pay for it yourself…same rate for everybody would be fair..just a flat rate for everybody, why should someone who happen to do better than me at making life choices, pay more???

      • jerry mcdonald

        manufacturing-up,education-a joke,unemployment-up in the private sector,liars, thieves,and criminals in congress,president,and judges.The federal reserve,banks,and governments lowering my standard of living while importing mexicans,russians,moslims-you better get a clue.I got a word for you-revolution!

      • Granny Mae

        hflashman,

        your puting you faith in an estimate not a fact ! Big difference !

      • http://PersonalLibertyDigest e.poet

        FLASHMAN, You are sincerely OUT OF YOUR MIND…
        I can’t believe you, you are continuously on the wrong side of anything and everything! Your pea-pickin’ little mind just does not GET IT! Gold is a way of protecting value, period! It retains value come what may. Even SOROS, and even the Chinese government are investing in procurements of vast amounts of it even as we comment here. ZZZZZZZZZZ, yeah right, sleeeeeeeepppppppp on and ooooooonnnnnnn.
        Me? I am wide, wide awake ! And so are most of the people who comment here !

      • James

        Hflashman, When Ben Bernanke was interviewed on “60 Minutes,” Sunday, he was confronted with the fact that unemployment had risen from 9.6% to 9.8%. The endless stimulus bailouts are only postponing a deeper recession or depression.

      • Runninbear

        Then I guess the figures 9.8% of unemployed americans is just a night,mare. Obama hasn’t done anything about our foriegin policy but lie to US and its time we the people exposed his agenda and get to the bottom of this new imformation that he has been selling out america? Now that we know his con games,the old bate and switch and if you can’t see what every other american can then you are the one who is misinformed?OMG! OMG! OMG! Obama Must Go!
        Obama is O=ne B=ig A=zz M=istake A-merica?

    • http://none Henry Stumpf

      Yes, he is the MOST dangerous man in America.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        2nd most. First is definitely George Soros.

      • Runninbear

        true that?geogre Soros is doing to us what he did to Europes finaical markets? bankrupt them and us to just to prove he could?and the money of course?

    • EddieW

      This is the biggest thing I’ve found posted yet!!! It says Liberalism is a Mental Disease…but then goes on to prove it!!!
      Sorry that the only link I have to it, is the post in my blog!!!
      http://barnabus1.tblog.com/

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