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Supreme Court Declines To Review Constitutionality Of Obamacare

November 18, 2010 by  

Supreme Court declines to review constitutionality of ObamaCareThe Supreme Court has ruled that it will not review the healthcare reform law that was approved by Congress and signed by President Barack Obama earlier this year.

The nation's highest court on Nov. 8 declined to hear the first constitutional challenge to the healthcare reform legislation, according to media reports. The lawsuit, which was brought by a California conservative group, challenges the government's power to require citizens to obtain healthcare coverage or face financial penalties.

The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, which was signed into law by the President in March 2010, was recently rejected by voters in Arizona and Oklahoma, who approved amendments to prohibit aspects of Obamacare. Virginia, Idaho, Georgia, Louisiana and Missouri have also passed The Freedom of Choice in Health Care Act, which prohibits any law from requiring individuals to have insurance coverage.

According to Reuters, some health policy experts predict that the healthcare law could be unrecognizable within a year. During a panel discussion on Nov. 5 at the Harvard School of Public Health, Douglas Holtz-Eakin, a former advisor to Senator John McCain (R-Ariz.) and current president of the policy institute American Action Forum, said that conservatives in Congress will dismantle the bill through the discretionary spending process.

"It will slow down the implementation and put it on a timetable to be solved in the 2012 elections," said Holtz-Eakin, quoted by the news provider.

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  • Tim

    All this just shows you that Destruction,Corruption and Misguidance can invade even the highest establishment of Honesty and Justice our Country has. I saw this happening when peoples started rejecting the once known Oath of swearing to “God” to “Tell the Truth and Nothing but the Truth so help you God”, in of all places where Honesty is expected and demanded to get real Justice, The Court of Law.We all know why of coarse, because peoples held in a court of law are there because they may be guilty of a crime and do not want to admit it or even feel deep down inside thier soles, to lie to our highest Judge of all. Regardless of religious beleifs. The whole process is not held to one God, but the beleifs of the individual person taking that oath. Many will lie till thier teeth fall out, but they will not swear to thier God to tell the truth and lie to thier God. Thier taking a chance that they may be held accountable once they leave this world and may face the real Judge. So they attempt to remove that situation because many will sit in a 6 X 9 cell and ponder on it for life. Many may be lieing to get money out of a lawsuit and be labeled with one of the deadly sins in life. Greed !
    Not to get off coarse here but once that enforced establishment of real “Honesty” within our sole is removed, nothing is fair and the justice in our courts systems is long gone. Now it is a matter of Popularity, Personal Views and agenda’s, and Right or Wrong Justice as a payback. I feel it is wrong for a elected official, even our President, to be able to appoint personal Justice of the Peace for personal Agenda’s. And that is what it is all about today. Our Supreme Courts are suppose to protect and uphold our Constitution First. Not to decide weather or not they want to deal with it. Our Highest Courts in our Country is tanted and bought and needs dismanteling just like our corrupt Government. This Country is suppose to be about it Peoples of all races, nationalities, and genders united as one. People come here to escape from thier bad and corrupt governments and gave up the lives they once lived, only to want to change ours to fit thier former lives they lived. Thus the corruption begins and it will not end until all is dismantled and restored. No more one sided court justices, political regin’s and origanizations with agenda’s that will tip the scales of our Justice Systems. And everyone is held accountable for thier deeds done. Especially our Elected Officials and High Profil Seats. Don’t do your job and your fired. Once you leave your post, you’r time served should be reviewed and scored. And if you failed the People your retirment package is readjusted. Do your job and receive what you sow!

    • Vigilant

      I agree with you on the corruption and violation of Constitutional principles in our judicary.

      Solumn oaths used to be just that: a “taking of one’s soul into one’s hands,” and “words you say to God.” It no longer means that to most people.

      In law, one not need place one’s hand on the Bible. The device of oath-taking now simply means a promise to tell the truth, and is legally binding in the case of perjury considerations.

  • Charles2439

    After Obama and his Demon-crats took $5 billion from our seniors healthcare, his left wing radicals propose cutting their Social Security. The Obama administration gave millions to Obama’s home country, Kenya, to pass a communist constitution that legalizes abortion.

    They gave over 600 million to the Palestinians this year and plan to give more in Foreign Aid to our enemies. Now, these criminals, the Obama leftwing radicals, are proposing euthanasia as a solution to the deficit that they created. Is anyone outraged by this – other than me?

    If they get their way, the death camps and crematoriums of Nazi Germany will happen all over again – in America. It’s a sad situation when people like Paul Krugman and Donald Berwick advocate rationing healthcare, (death panels), and the liberal media sits idly by and ignores it as though it never happened – turning a blind eye.

    The mere fact that the media didn’t come out against the idea or express outrage at the suggestion shows their approval of death panels and eventually death camps and crematoriums. Welcome to the fourth Reich!

  • Conservative at Birth

    Sad, Sad, Sad, Sad.

    • Teresa

      something to think about:
      How does it happen that a California judge can upend millennia of accepted standards for society by saying that gender plays no role in marriage? Or a court can approve a Florida school district’s deal with liberals to ban teachers from praying – even when they’re off-campus?

      A new report by John Gizzi of the Capital Research Center, to be released within the next few days, has an explanation: A powerful move by very wealthy interests across the United States to reshape the judiciary in the mold of progressives who believe the Constitution should be interpreted through the filter of personal desires.

      And the primary force behind the move? George Soros, the hedge fund billionaire who personally provides the money for a number of liberal advocacy organizations such as MoveOn.org.

      “George Soros plans to influence the selection of state Supreme Court justices across the country. He’s funding massive efforts to end judicial elections in state after state, pushing instead for ‘merit based appointments’ that favor the political interests of the liberal lawyers who pick the judges,” Matthew Vadum, the CRC chief who edited Gizzi’s report.

      Exposed! George Soros’ scheme for ‘elite’ judiciary
      How does it happen that a California judge can upend millennia of accepted standards for society by saying that gender plays no role in marriage? Or a court can approve a Florida school district’s deal with liberals to ban teachers from praying – even when they’re off-campus?

      A new report by John Gizzi of the Capital Research Center, to be released within the next few days, has an explanation: A powerful move by very wealthy interests across the United States to reshape the judiciary in the mold of progressives who believe the Constitution should be interpreted through the filter of personal desires.

      And the primary force behind the move? George Soros, the hedge fund billionaire who personally provides the money for a number of liberal advocacy organizations such as MoveOn.org.

      Learn what happens when the government breaks its own laws, in “Constitutional Chaos”

      “George Soros plans to influence the selection of state Supreme Court justices across the country. He’s funding massive efforts to end judicial elections in state after state, pushing instead for ‘merit based appointments’ that favor the political interests of the liberal lawyers who pick the judges,” Matthew Vadum, the CRC chief who edited Gizzi’s report.

      “Because state Supreme Courts may have a say in redistricting after the 2010 Census is completed it is essential that citizens and state officeholders scrutinize who’s behind efforts to overturn judicial elections,” he said.

      “How many Elena Kagans and David Souters?”

      “Voters don’t normally pay attention to state Supreme Court elections but if they don’t start watching them Soros could engineer a judicial revolution. Soros could install judge after judge who views the Constitution as a so-called living document, that is, a worthless piece of paper onto which judges can project their own personal political views. How many Elena Kagans and David Souters can America tolerate?” Vadum asked.

      The report follows an analysis by the American Justice Partnership that confirmed Soros already has spent some $45 million to change state procedures from electing judges to having them appointed – after being nominated by a clique of elites.

      The report, by attorney Colleen Pero, described Soros’ plans to “remake the judiciary and fundamentally change the way judges are selected in the United States.”

      Gizzi’s report explains that Soros wants to remove voters from the process through which judges are nominated, elected or retained. Instead, he wants to have them chosen by elite teams of mostly lawyers, appointed by the politically powerful and protected while in office.

      Gizzi noted the campaigns that have been launched in recent weeks, including the one in Iowa where voters stand a real chance this year of firing three of the state Supreme Court justices who ordered same-sex “marriage” created in the state.

      Similar campaigns are under way in Kansas and Colorado, he said.

      “The common denominator in Colorado, Iowa and Kansas is that Supreme Court justices in these states are initially picked according to a merit selection system,” Gizzi explained.

      “A key player in the emerging battles over state court selections is George Soros. … Soros has contributed more than $45 million over the past decade to several dozen special interest advocacy groups affiliated with an umbrella 501(c)(3) organization called Justice at Stake. … [which] has as its mission the ‘reform’ of the process for selecting state judges.”

      Gizzi continued, “A principal goal for JAS is to replace judicial elections with a system of ‘merit election.’”

      ‘Voters will never get to reject judges’

      “There are many advocates for ‘merit selection’ of state judges, but wherever you look the hand and purse of George Soros, ‘paymaster of the left,’ is obvious. Soros has the resources and the allies. If he gets his way, voters in all 50 states will never get to elect, retain or reject their judges,” he warned.

      So what’s the problem with judges being nominated by attorneys?

      “Of the appellate nominees in Missouri (where judges are nominated by special commissions and appointed) since 1995 who made any campaign contributions, 87 percent gave more to Democrats than Republicans and only 13 percent gave more to Republicans than Democrats,” the report said.

      The apparent intended result of Soros’ campaign is to have a steady stream of Democrat-leaning judges groomed and installed on the bench, the report suggested.

      Just getting the judges on the bench is the major part of the work, since federal judges serve lifetime appointments, and even in state courts there seldom are firings.

      “Sitting judges win retention elections 98.9 percent of the time,” Gizzi reported. “A sample study of 10 states … found that in 4,588 retention elections in 1964-1998 only 52 judges were not retained.”

      In Iowa, where voters are trying to remove three justices, there hasn’t been a judge booted from office in nearly five decades.

      Gizzi quotes historian David Pietrusza, who said, “The idea that appointing court of appeals judges makes for less politics and better decisions is a concept simultaneously elitist and naïve. Political maneuvering has merely moved into a shabbier and more shadowy back room within the house of politics.”

      ‘No such accountability’

      The earlier AJP report said the Soros campaign is “highly-coordinated, well-funded” and is intended to “exclude conservative, rule-of-law judges from the bench.”

      The report noted Soros’ game plan was explained by a retired judge, who said, “I do not mean to suggest that elected judges are necessarily unqualified or corrupt, but rather that merit selection is far superior to selection by election, since the voting public does not have the slightest idea which candidates are qualified or what are the qualifications for a good judge. As I have said previously, there is a suggestion that elections should be retained because they make judges accountable to the people, but there should be no such accountability.” (emphasis added)

      The California same-sex marriage decision was by Vaughn Walker, who determined that voters would not be allowed to define marriage in their own state constitution as being between one man and one woman.

      His opinion said:

      “Religious beliefs that gay and lesbian relationships are sinful or inferior to heterosexual relationships harm gays and lesbians.”

      “Rather, the exclusion exists as an artifact of a time when the genders were seen as having distinct roles in society and in marriage. That time has passed.”

      “Gender no longer forms an essential part of marriage; marriage under law is a union of equals.”
      In Florida, Liberty Counsel has been battling a case in the Santa Rosa County School District in which district officials agreed to comply with an ACLU demand that teachers be banned from praying, even off-campus.

      • bbstacker

        Like Huey P. Long, maybe if this alien bastard soros were to finally show his mortal side, we’d be free of his ilk. But, there are days I really have to wonder if “Men in Black” wasn’t more truth than we care to imagine–At least in the case of sorry-ass soros. I’m not ruling out anything because you cannot write fiction any better than this hell-of-reality we are living these days, and the truth is stranger than fiction!

  • Mushin

    Kagan and Sotomayer are part of the disease inside our government (and our country) – they have no integrity, their only desire is to please their masters like dog’s at the heel.

    Their past actions prove their motives are as twisted as their minds. This country was not founded on self-serving motive’s.

    This country was founded by strong-willed men who risked their very lives, their families lives and their fortunes in a bid for freedom from the tyranny of the king of england – a tyranny much the same as we face now.

    My father used to say, “God helps those who help themselves” – what he meant by this statement is this; don’t wait for the almighty to get something done for you – take action and get it done yourself.

    Take note; we are the ONLY country to EVER win our freedom from the english empire, THEE most POWERFUL empire to exist since the demise of the ROMAN EMPIRE! The atrocities the english empire comitted were worldwide and cost the lives of hundreds of thousands if not millions.

    Our forefathers knew if we were not vigilant this would happen to us again fellow American’s….we will stand together, or fall seperately.

    • Teresa

      AMEN, and very, very well said!!!!!!!!!

    • Vigilant

      I believe India also won its freedom from the empire.

  • SuthnXPosR

    This Liberal governorship now in place in America abuse and deny rights of the people, provide rights for foreign terrorist, illegals of all kinds, spit on the constitution, and express concern of eledged “homegrown” terrorists. Ha!!! Well I’m gonna tell ya somthin’. These asses have created “homegrown” terrorists alright by their vial un-american actions and will ultimately see a rebellious bloodbath directed at their govt. by the fed up citizens as never before witnessed in this country. And these fools will stand around with their finger in their nose wondering WTF.

  • rick

    like our criminal govt., military, the supreme court has also become an enemy of america. wish we had the honduran supreme’s & military, eh. keep your powder dry citizens.

  • Donna

    I’m amazed that the supreme court, who’s only function is to determine the constitutionality of laws can refuse to hear a case that specifically deals with the constitution! Yet they can hear frivolous cases that have no bearing on the constitution. Maybe a reeducation is in order for the justices right along with the rest of the government as to exactly what their role is in the great republic know as the United States of America!!!

  • David in Ma.

    In my little town we can get an article submitted to a town warrant, on any issue, for consideration and town meeting vote. This is called a citizens petition, it requires the signatures of ten registered voters and the petition cannot be challanged or removed from the warrant/town meeting and has to be moved, discussed & voted upon.

    Is there auch an avenue in the federal congressional system for a citizens petition which can be submitted to the approperate house of congress to be brought before the congress for debte and vote?

    If there is, then maybe that would be a way for congress to be prodded to act and the supreme court would not be making legislation and could return to deciding issues based upon the U.S. Constitution.

    Every day I feel more & more like there are too many people hidden in the American government and justice system who are not supportive of the American ways. I read where there are 70 to 80 communists in congress, if that’s true how many more are there that are not known and who are working to destroy America.

    Something has to be done and it’s up to the voters, voters who do their homework before they vote for a candidate. obama is a prime example for this need to vet, everyone, even the “old timers.”

    • Kinetic1

      David, (and all the rest of you)
      Please, PLEASE do some research before you post. “I heard” or “I think I read somewhere” does not cut it. The information you have confused in a McCarthy like fervor is that, by some estimates there are 70 members of the Democratic Socialist Party in Congress. I have seen the list, but I am not going to take the time to check everyone’s affiliation. Those that I tried to look up resulted in the same old list posted on the same old sites. If I find a reputable source, I’ll check them out.

      Anyway, Socialists oppose both capitalism and communism, so the claim that these 70 people (if they are indeed members of the DSP) are Communists is ridiculous. I realize that you are no more likely to appreciate Socialists than Communists, and this information may not make you feel any better, but at least it’s researched.

      • JC

        i “heard” you were a communist idiot, I “think” that it’s true. ;)

  • Teresa

    Let me make few statements: 1. The Constitution does not MANDATE that the government can make us purchase health insurance or penalize us for it. Then by going out and allowing their Unions waivers only proves their guilty in breaking the law. 2. The judges need to be dis-bared period. 3. The government and radicals are wanting us to have an uprising, they are forcing us to raise first…this will give them the excuse they seek to take our guns..to take away what little rights we have left. 4. This is fully orcherstrated what they are doing…w/the media, the airlines, the judges…everything, slow down and think for one minute. If we strick first, they take our guns, our communication, our voices…they are angry now. We scored big on election. They are regrouping. They are pushing and pushing hard. Do not loose your cool now! They are voting today on 5 new Liberal judges even worse than any others! Pay attention to what goes on around you people….you have to stay in contact w/everyone, keep your voices heard and keep your cool, keep your faith, and keep active w/your congress….keep pushing.

    • http://foundersrevolution.blogspot.com/ Patriot1776

      The constitution as originally intended is DEAD

      • JC

        And it will remain that way until a similar group to the Yankees of 1776 changes it.

      • Kinetic1

        Go ahead, start your revolution. Better still, all of you move to Texas, take a copy of the Constitution, Cross out all the parts you don’t like (finally, fundamental Christian control of EVERYTHING!) and secede from the Union. Shoot, take the whole South! That way you’ll have a Disney park of your own. You’ll all be happier and we won’t have to deal with your conspiracy theories anymore.

      • Kate8

        Kinetic – You have a problem with total control? LOL. I guess it’s okay when you guys have it.

        Actually, Christians don’t care about control. They just want to live without depravity in their children’s faces everywhere they look, and the freedom to pursue life as they choose. Your camp can go ahead and knock yourselves out with all the self-indulgence you want, but keep it to yourself. You know, like you want us to only pray in our own homes.

        The only way Leftists know is FORCE. That’s ’cause we don’t want what you’re peddlin’.

      • JC

        Kind of hysterical again today aren’t you Kinetic?
        here’s the mistake you are making….”we’re not going anywhere”.
        YOU Communist Tools are on your way out. By whatever means necessary.

      • Dennis

        Patroit1776,
        Don’t beleive that $hit, thats just what they want, The constitution was built to kick a corrupt governments azz.

      • http://foundersrevolution.blogspot.com/ Patriot1776

        I am too educated to believe the crap that spews from kinetic1 :)

      • bbstacker

        I understand what you are saying, but it is only “dead” if we relinquish honoring the Founding Fathers who created this nation. The Constitution is within those Americans who understand it as much as Christ is within our hearts. You cannot defeat something that is part of our soul, it cannot be taken away, it cannot be silenced and it cannot be contained. Americans who are interested in keeping this Republic, and getting the rest that we’ve lost back, have to educate those who are ignorant of the truth of our Heritage. You cannot know where you are going if you don’t know from where you came.

      • http://foundersrevolution.blogspot.com/ Patriot1776

        Ageed. But, in practice the constitution has been spit upon, trampled upon, and turned inside out to work against the people instead of against the government as intended. So in effect it is dead. (to it’s original intent) It will forever live in the hearts and minds of true liberty lovers everywhere.

      • AZ Apache Native

        Dear Patriot 1776, I beg to differ; the Constitution has been trampled thus, “Don’t Tread On Me” is making a remarkable comeback. Millions of Americans are seeking sovereignty and making a stand, thus Nov 2010. Many Constitutionists are forming en mass to return to de jure government and replace the de facto government. No need for violence and no need to fear. With a nickname such as Patriot1776, I would expect that you support such truther movements. Many of my native American brothers have known for many years that your leaders disrespect the wishes of your founding fathers. We are educating you! Get involved instead of spreading dismay. Peace be to you and yours.

      • http://foundersrevolution.blogspot.com/ Patriot1776

        AZ Apache Native, I am Absolutly on board with the liberty movement that has been awakened recently. My point is not to discourage, it is to educate the movement as to just how far we have fallen. Hopefully this will light a fire that burns so stroong no government will be able to extinguish it! I read most of the comments here and even those on the side of liberty don’t seem to understand the TRUE history of our founding or what it is that was won with the war for independence. I mean some of these guys still think pepetual warfare is a conservative belief! NOTHING could be farther from the truth. Somehow these guys don’t want the Government to come into their home towns and tell them what to do or what to believe, but it’s ok to go overseas and do the same thing to another country in the name of freedom? Doesn’t make sense. Anyways, I am getting off point, I don’t want to be a pessimist Ijust want people to understand the situation. And it’s much graver than most seem to understand.

  • CowboyHerb

    Yes, the same Elena Kagan nominated by the commander in chief to be the next justice on the U.S. Supreme Court has actually been playing a role for some time in the dispute over whether Obama is legally qualified to be in the White House. He…re’s the connection. Kagan served as solicitor general of the United States from March 2009 until May of this year. In that role, she legally represented the U.S. government in numerous cases coming before the Supreme Court. A simple search of the high court’s own website reveals Kagan’s name coming up at least nine times on dockets involving Obama eligibility issues. All readers need do is go to the website for the
    http://www.Supreme Court.gov. To find as many cases as you like

    • RePete

      Can you provide a more thorough explanation of how to conduct this search?

      • RePete

        Holy Sh*t! You are right!!

  • Dennis

    This is business as usual, after all where do these come from. They are appointed by the president, who will appoint those of the same belief. They will do whatever is necessary to save their life time jobs and protect their family form the tax payer.

  • Tammy

    All the more reason to get rid of the puppet plants in the supreme court. Find any reason to disbar them that were appointed by Obamadinejad. Everything the supreme court has been challenged to do they will refuse to review. I say time for a revolution and it starts with the supreme court. Then on to hanging the treasonous impostor for crimes against humanity. George Soros is after that we need to steal all his billions and make him a poor ass proleriat like he wants to make us. Why won’t this steamy pile of human waste go away to hell.

    • RePete

      There will be a new deck of cards issued, and Soros will be the Ace of Spades. His money will be worthless then.

      Do not forget a face or name.

      There will be swift justice for those states an countries who do not extradite.

    • Kinetic1

      Tammy,
      WOW, some of you folks don’t bother to do ANY research, do you? I’m certain that you will want to get rid of President Obama’s picks anyway, but here are the facts. (again)
      “The “Rule of Four” controls matters when deciding which issues the high court will hear. If four justices agree that a specific petition for writ of certiorari should be granted, then the case will be placed on the Supreme Court’s docket and an order stating that certiorari has been granted will be issued to the petitioner.”

      So if Roberts. Alito, Scalia and Thomas all vote yea, then it’s set. They must not have, and you can’t blame this one on “Obama’s Liberal Activist Judges.”

  • mickey

    If your state does not require proof of citizenship to run on its ballot, please ask your congressmen to pass a state law. obama would not be able to run in 2012 without proof.

    Sign the petition to opt out of HC. A 111 waivers have been approved, unions and companies. The site address is patientoptout.com

    They just keep pushing and pushing.

    • Kinetic1

      ARGGGGGH,
      Mickey, I suppose it’s too much to hop that the information I offer will only need to be posted once, so here it is again.
      According to the website of the Health and Human Services Department, HHS has approved 111 applications “for waivers from annual limit requirements” for one year. As Bloomberg reported, the waivers allow companies with “so-called mini-med or limited benefit plans that employers use for low-wage or part-time workers” to “avoid raising the minimum amount of insurance coverage to $750,000 starting next year.”

      The idea here is that some companies are providing limited health coverage for their low wage/part time employees. Those plans do not pay out the “minimum” required by the bill, but it would be punitive to require these companies to elevate part time employees to full time benefits. If they cancelled their policies, these employees would likely qualify for government aid, so the very fact that these companies provide ANY coverage makes them better than most. To deal with this issue they have been given a 1 year exemption for those employees. Let’s say that again, ONE YEAR EXEMPTION FOR THEIR LOW WAGE AND PART TIME EMPLOYEES ONLY.

      • ValDM

        Kinetic1,
        Boy, are you wrong! Go to this website, read the article and tell me that hogwash again, AFTER you get your eyes open about those waivers. Let’s see if you have been brainwashed or can you still absorb, retain and learn from something that you are diametrically opposed to?
        http://www.theblaze.com. They have a list of the 111 companies that have already been granted this waiver, and there’s 1,111 right behind them.
        Check it out, and then come back and apologize to ALL of us on this blog.

      • Kinetic1

        That’s right ValDM, 111. I said that was true. I also said that these waivers are specifically related to “mini-med” coverage for part time and low wage labor. There’s nothing new to me in this article, only information they glossed over or left out for obvious reasons. Take this tidbit from the N.Y. Times article they quoted;

        “In 2014, higher-quality coverage will be offered at an affordable price in the new exchanges. Until then, the annual waiver process preserves limited benefit plans offered by employers, preventing significant premium increase or loss of access.”

        Gee, I wonder why they didn’t leave that in? Watch the FOX clip in this “THE BLAZE” article and you’ll see that they make no attempt to give the full story. So no, I don’t need to apologize to you or anyone else on this site for questioning your interest in facts. You read an article from a hack source that cherry picked information and ran with it. You put little effort into finding the truth and got back what you put in.

  • Robin from Arcadia, IN

    How is it the Supreme Court can deny hearing a lawsuit when it pertains to the entire United States and affects every citizen? Do they really have that ability to pick and choose what cases they hear and rule on? I am so saddened to see what America has become. I am only recently finding out how corrupt our government is and I am in shock. I almost wish I could stick my head in the sand and pretend it will work out on it’s own, but I know that won’t happen. I pray that God will help us and get us back on track. He’s our only hope.

    • David in Ma.

      Certertori (sp-?) the supreme court does not hear every case sent to it, the court can chose what it wants to review.
      I know of no requirement that the court has to hear every case submitted to it.

      • RePete

        You are correct. Potential cases are heard before the court for a few minutes and then the Justices determine whether or not the case merits a hearing.

        If the States pass laws contrary to existing Federal Law, and these State laws are challenged, they will end up in front of the Supreme Court.

        If the constitutionality of the healthcare law is to be heard at teh Supreme Court level, it is paramount that the States continue to pass such laws barring Owebama-care in their jurisdiction.

    • http://foundersrevolution.blogspot.com/ Patriot1776

      God is our only hope! You are so right!

    • bbstacker

      The moonbats and commies want our heads in the sand…right where it’s been for the last good hundred years at least. They pacified the American population with boogey man stories to spend our wealth on their jacked-up creation of threats. We all need to dig and dig ferociously to find the truth, to get to the core of what went on before and what’s going on now. The truth is there, but it’s buried in many cases. Turn off the damn idle-American zombie box, get involved, talk to your neighbors, make them start thinking. The media cannot have power over you if you just simply lean forward and turn it off. The last I checked, there are less than 500 of these zombie masters, and 300 million of US! We are the life and the blood of America.

  • SuthnXPosR

    The supreme court and it’s justices are as corrupt as the day is long and perform as dictated by the current administration.

  • Dad

    It’s not like lawyers are you friends. They are the root cause of most of our ills.

    • Concerned American

      pleeeeeeeeeeeease. Lawyers are just cheap money whoremongers. Its the police and military who bring terror to your door step. You think the elites are the real threat? They just issue the orders and can’t be bothered from their cocktail parties. No the very military you flea brain “patriots” thank and praise every damn holiday will come to your door step, drag your daughters out into the street for a good raping, shoot up everyone with nasty vaccines, etc. For some damn reason, the need to follow orders in the military trumps everything. Damn tradition.

      • bbstacker

        We are hoping that the Oath they all took will mean something of value beyond the illegal orders that could come down. Maybe… But, I have found it quite interesting that oboingo’s promise to bring home the troops is simply another lie, and that America’s youth who thought the cause was just to go and serve America are in strong numbers not on our soil. They’ve joined up and been shipped away while the nation suffers and will they be here in sufficient numbers to honor their Oath to defend the Constitution? This one bothers me.

  • http://www.oathkeepers.org Martin Fee

    Yesterday there was an article in the Washington Times in which George Soros and his think tank sent a memo to Mr Obama say that he MUST forcefully circumvent the will of the people. That he should and MUST use executive orders to force the progressive agenda on the people no matter the will of the voters.
    Remember that Soros is the money behind the Democrats and what he wants he gets so the forcing of Obama care is only the tip of the iceberg and now with the Supreme Court refusing to hear what is the biggest assault of personal liberty ever the door is open for the complete and utter change over from Capitalism to Communism. The next year will tell the tale. I am not a conspiracy nut but with all the “Residential centers” being built, the so called “Council of Govenors” dividing the Nation from 50 states into 10 zones of comand and control the stage really is set for a massive coup. All that is needed is one “Act” to set it all in motion. A terrorist act, a pandemic, an anti government rally that results in violence and that will be it. All those we new congressmen we elected will mean nothing. That fatal act followed by one executive order and then Homeland Insecurity takes it from there.
    I am a student of History, I have studied many many coups, and dictator takeovers and I must say we are closer now to a second civil war then ever before. COmpare what is happening right now with what Germany went through just before and in teh first few years after the election of Herr Hitler and you will see exactly what I mean. Right down to the “fatal act” which for Hitler was the fire at the Reichstag

    • Concerned American

      My guess is a bio lab will just “accidently” release a nasty bug, and then Americans will be herded into FEMA concentration camps for our own good and to receive flu shots….

      At some of these “FEMA camps” there are thousands and thousands of plastic coffins just sitting around. The elites in power want to kill off 90% of us anyway (that is there end game) with the remaining 10% serving as complete and total slaves in a 1984 style control grid that George Orwell could never envision.

      Government always has the false flag terror card to play… Out of chaos it will be impossible to tell if martial law is for our own good or the stage to end America.

      The only thing we can hope for is that enough people are aware of flase flag terror AND have the courage to stand up to it…

      • http://www.oathkeepers.org Martin Fee

        The funniest part is the first “citizens” that will be brought into these “special” camps will be those taken names taken from the welfare rolls.
        they don’t work now, they will not make great slaves later

      • ValDM

        Martin,
        I think you’re wrong about the ones on the welfare rolls being first. I think the first will be the ones on SS. What better way to rid themselves of people who, by and large, disagree with them. The second group to be waylaid (after exterminating the first group) will be people openly declaring the Lord Jesus Christ. Make no mistake, Christians are currently being persecuted right here in River City, but the MSM never reports on these incidents. Old folks who remember what our country used to be will be first. Second will be the Christians. That will take care of most of the dissidents. Just like the USSR.

      • Christin

        ValDM,
        I agree with you. The elders who are former war heros, patriotic, know the truth about America, know the dirty truths about foreign types of governments, and are a burden on the system … Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare… and are deemed to not be useful to society because of their age will be the first to be harmed probably through obamacare. And yes, Christians second, because we have the power of God, His devine guidance, and we are armed with the truth and the whole armor of God.

      • http://yahoo Cherokee

        Look up Fema and Homeland Security mass graves.
        It’s all there.

      • Kate8

        I just read that a new ‘pandemic’ has been confirmed. Another strain of swine flu, worse, of course. Be ready for mandatory vaccines coming early next year, folks. They’ve already said this is coming.

      • Dennis

        Hello Kate8,
        Wear did you read this i would like to read it to.
        FYI – You don’t need alot of guns, you just need a few of reel good ones, maybe a 30-06, 12,16 or 20 gauge shotgun, .22 rifle for hunting small game or whatever and a real good pistol that you can handle maybe a 9 mm, and know how to use them well, what you do need alot of is ammo for those gun and a place to keep it dry, survival skills-know how to live out doors, make a list of things you will need, have your gear ready to go at a moments notice as this will be very important, And most of all do not panic, when you panic your not thinking, and if your not thinking you will not survive.

      • Dennis

        LOL I know i ment (where)

      • Kate8

        Dennis – Here you go:

        http://www.recombinomics.com/News/11181001/trH3N2_Match_Pandemic.html

        Doesn’t take much to be declared ‘pandemic’ these days.

      • Kate8

        Dennis – How do you guys plan to deal with satellite detection and the ability to zap us from the skies?

        This isn’t the world it used to be. Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide.

      • Dennis

        Kate8,
        All i will say is keep some cardboard & aluminum foil around, and alot off it, bums are smarter than you may think :-) , the simple things can protect you.

      • Dennis

        And know Kate8 I’m not a bum, i just study things.

  • Steve

    Mark,

    I agree, Civil war is coming to a state near you. Problem is: it won’t be so civil. I hope the citizens of this country have enough gumption to put these subversives on trial after we win the war. As a matter of fact, we are at war now and if they are convicted of treason we can legally hang them all.

    How’s that for pissing in Obama’s cheerios?

    Good Morning America !!!

  • http://yahoo Upsidedownjack

    Well, let me see. The so called SC. stood at 5/4 on the 2nd Amendment. That was pretty much written in pretty plain language, yet FOUR of the so called “Judges” setting on the sc. said NO! WTF? Does the supreme court, Stand for anything? I say, NO they stand for themselves! No only do we as a Country need to remove ALL of the Communist Progressive’s in the House and Senate, but the “white house and supreme court also! Up against the WALL Comrade!

    • http://foundersrevolution.blogspot.com/ Patriot1776

      Something you all don’t seem to understand- the Bill of Rights was meant to apply ONLY to the Federal government. It was meant to FURTHER restrict the Federal government from infringing on the States and their people. When the Supreme Court rules to “incorporate” ANY of the amendments it is a bad thing!! This only means that the Federal Courts now have COMPLETE SAY-SO when it comes to your rights. Mark my words… The recent 2nd amendment ruling will come back to bite us in the ass. They will at some point in the future be able to say “yes, you have a fundamental right to own a gun… but, we don’t think you need anything more than a .22 caliber so this ban on all guns will stand except for .22 caliber” Or something similar to that
      And since you let them get away with this STUPID doctrine of “incorporation”, and even celebrate it when you percieve it to be a win for “our” side, the States will have NO say-so over these type of Supreme Court decisions. Can’t you see it? Your State may stand up in light of a future ruling like this and say “Our citizens have the constitutional right to own more than a .22 cal.- your laws won’t stand here” And all the Court will say is “Sorry dumb-ass we incorporated the Bill of Rights years ago, remember…? It’s our decision now. Take your stupid State soverignty argument and shove it” This is exactly how and why the Federal Courts can rule other retarded things like banning nativity scene’s, striking down oklahoma’s new law banning Sharia law in their own sovereign courts, or asying a cross on the side of the road is unconstitutional… all thanks to the “incrporation doctrine”.
      I know nobody likes what I am saying, but it the truth of the matter. And don’t get me wrong, I am all for owning guns. And lots of them. I just don’t want my right to keep and bear arms left up to the Federal government. Just like the founders, I believe that these matters should be left to the soverignty of the States where we have a much better chance to affect good government.

      • http://none Mike

        Patriot, Agreed agreed and agreed. This recent non decision is only the first steps twords that end.This was a state brining suit against a federal law and the fact they chose to take a pass on it shows they are allready dissing states rights here.The very fact that california was one of the first to bring suit was amazing to me and proves just how bad this law is. You can bet when the most liberal state in the union by far doesent want it its a total disaster. Another shining example of the destruction of states rights was the suit that the Obama goverment brought before the supream court against Arizona.This border state wanted the right to actively look for illeagle aliens in the commission of crimes. The Obama administration wanted none of that seeing as the illeagle will soon be made leagle if they promis to vote right.So he had their law declared unconstitonal. Now the health care bill dosent even get a hearing. This is frightining stuff. I guess now we have all been declared enemies of the state.Pray pray and pray some more folks we are going to need it soon. Mike L.

  • Mick

    Does the Supreme Court Follow the Constitution in the Spirit it was Written,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Hell no !
    Our judges are as honest as other men, and not more so. They have, with others, the same passions for party, for power, and the privilege of their corps. Their maxim is “boni judicis est ampliare jurisdictionem, ” and their power the more dangerous as they are in office for life, and not responsible, as the other functionaries are, to the elective control.

    Once you break the rules it’s hard to turn back, America is in deep trouble with the bunch on the bench……….

    • Kate8

      Congress has been informed of the planned devastation, violence and massive death planned for America. Many of you have, no doubt, see the video.

      They have also been told that if they cooperate with the NWO, they and their families will have a safe place in the bunkers, away from the surface holocaust. If not…well, they’re on their own.

      They are given a deal they just can’t afford to refuse. Let’s all watch and see if there are any true men and women of courage and valor among the new crop. Don’t expect enough to be of help.

      • Christin

        Kate8,
        Explains why the congress men and women that lose their primary won’t step down, but find a way to run after losing. Their is a lot at stake and they want in on it so badly.

  • http://http/aol.com john littlefield

    the lib supreme court are in cahoots with this nightmare of the law.

  • Mark Matis

    Civil war is coming. And soon. Are you ready?

    • http://yahoo chas

      YUP!!….Keep your powder dry, baby!!!

      • http://yahoo chas

        …and buy AMMO!!….it’s a good investment in MANY ways!!…

      • Kate8

        This is what they want, folks! Civil war!

        I saw a speech by one of Odumbo’s minions saying that he was encouraged that the rioting going on in Europe would be erupting in America soon. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of that wasn’t staged, or at least hyped, to fan the flames here. They are provoking us on purpose!

        They want to see how far we can be pushed before we snap. That is why all the hubub on TV about the airport scanners and pat-downs, why they defy is in Congress, on immigration, in law enforcement, the census – everywhere possible. They WANT us to fire the first salvo so they can move in to crush us once and for all!

        They know it is just a matter of time, and the abuse will continue to escalate until they achieve their goal. They are waiting, salivating, for us to MAKE THEIR DAY!

        And you know that someone will. Then they’ll all hide in their luxurious bunkers built with OUR money while we wipe each other out.

        Don’t think they don’t have this all worked out.

      • EltonJ

        I do believe I’ll let Yahweh fight this battle for me. This is one fight I can’t win (civil war). Guys, don’t be talking or planning civil war. It’s just what they want. If things come to that, then rely on Yahweh to do the fighting for you. He set up this Country, don’t give him a reason to destroy it.

        Causing civil war will make things worse. It’s best to let China invade us first, then wise up and call on the Captain of the Divine Host to defend us.

      • Christin

        Kate8,
        I heard that the UNIONS bused in workers abroad to riot and protest around “The Conservative” building in England who were voted in power and are now trying to save their country and lower debts.

        Sounds like something they will do here, too, if they can’t provoke the hard-working, tax-paying, Freedom-loving, Constitutional Conservative, Patriotic Americans to riot. They are pushing us hard, but we are rocks! However, they will create crisises that can’t be wasted, like the collapse of the dollar, food shortages, TSA assulting American flyers…

      • Kate8

        Christin, One way or another they’ll make their move. Whether we have a ‘natural’ disaster, terror attack, angry mobs, ‘militia’ move, whatever…and whether it be real or staged…they’ll have a crisis.

        We have to remember that these things ‘must come to pass’. I know that scripture tells us several times to ‘hide ourselves for a time’. I was never sure just what that meant, but it comes to mind. Hiding’s not an easy thing these days.

        We have to focus on the final prize. I’m sure it will all be worth it.

      • ValDM

        Of course that’s what they want. We are currently at the tip of the iceburg known as End Times. Doesn’t the New Testament tell us that brother will turn against brother? Children against parents? Mother-in-law against daughter-in-law? Civil war will not be avoided now, and everyone will have to pick a side: good or evil. It is long past time to make your commitment to Christ as your personal savior. Good will eventually overcome evil, but not without much personal cost. Put your faith where it belongs: The Father and The Son.

      • Christin

        Kate8,
        Do you know where it says “to hide yourselves for a time.”?
        Is that the same as “in these times to leave the city and head for the hills.”? I will have to look up where it says that.

        ValDM,
        You are spot on. “As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.” Joshua 24 : 15.

    • http://www.oathkeepers.org Martin Fee

      Yea it is comming. I know a lot of people who claim they can;t wait but it is not something I am looking forward to. I also see a lot of people saying to stock up on guns and ammo and I agree butmore important is to find a good, solid, dry place to hide your firearms until they are needed. Any power grab will begin with the suspension of the Constitution and the confiscation of firearms.

      • http://yahoo Cherokee

        Just what Hitler did.

      • bbstacker

        No Citizen in their right mind will hand over anything. They work for us, these fools we’ve allowed to become post turtles; they borrow their “power” from US the governed. They can choose to obliterate the Constitution, but they cannot take the Constitution from within our hearts and minds–this is where the Constitution lives for those of us willing to defend it’s pristine words of how a nation of sovereign individuals stand together to protect it.

  • Dan az

    Tell me how can the supreme court rule that they dont need to rule on a unconstitutional law? Sure I expected it when they took kaggan on but really how blatant can they be? It seems as though the laws are only meant for the peons and not the elite,So maybe its time for some term limits, for all judges that think they are above the laws.

    • http://yahoo gloria jean collins

      The judges are probably paid off, just like Obama has paid off so many to keep his true idenity hidden. It is a shame.

      • Eddie

        You’re right Gloria, the climate change is not result of global warming but from the stench in Washington beginning with the White House. It’s all about money and greed in D.C. and has been for years.
        Charlie Rangle should’ve been thrown out of congress and gets a wrist slap instead. Al Capone ended up in Alcatraz for non payment of taxes.
        Rangle gets milk n’cookies and a blessaing to go forth and sin no more.
        Charlie will unrepentantly go back to his same crap ’cause he can’t be tried twice for it and the payola truck keeps rolling along to keep everybody happy,happy.

      • Eddie

        Oops,that’s “blessing” without the typo. Mea Culpa.

    • Cliffystones

      Dan,

      This is exactly what I was wondering. Forget the two new lesbos, What about the rest of the court? What valid reason could these arrogant SOBs have to NOT hear these cases?

    • Kinetic1

      Dan az,
      Unconstitutional in your view. I’m certain there are others, including those with qualifications who question the Constitutionality of the law, but that alone does not make it so. One might assume from their rejection that the Supreme Court Judges, including those of a Conservative bent don’t agree, or they may just may not like this one case. Maybe the suit was too broad? Maybe they want to hear arguments on only one or two sections of the law? Only time will tell.

  • June Gagnon

    A national shame, when our own Supreme Court will not stand up for US citizens – -but then, did we expect any less after the “successful” nominations of sotomayor and kaggan?? It will now be up to our “new conservative Congress” to repeal obamacare, immediately and impeach both sotomayor and kaggan? There is far too much evidence, against both these women and they should never have been confirmed in the first place. The Supreme Court is no place for radical activiism! Barry soetoro “got his way” and it’s time to put a “screeching halt” to his rampage!

    • Remy

      It’s the Supreme Court’s job to hold up the law and constitution, whether it seems they are standing up for U.S. citizens or not. Please name the exact situation where Sotomayor and Kagan have acted in a manner that equates to radical activism? Both Sotomayor and Kagan went through a rigorous vetting process to become confirmed. They are following the law, not interpreting it in an activist manner. You may not like them, but they have done nothing that is impeachable under the law. Deal with it.

      • http://none Mike

        Remy, or should I say Dreamy. This was an outrage that they refused to even hear the arguments of this laws constitutionality. I know a few constitutional lawyers that were chomping at the bit to get ahold of the Obamanation called the healthcare bill. One it forces people into a contract with either a health insurance provider or a goverment run plan. This was unpresedented in the united states. Never in our history has the goverment forcefully(with the threat of fines and I.R.S audits)made a citizen enter into any contract against their will. 2 The calling of the tax to raise money for the goverment funding a fine. Mainly this is a constitutional dodge there to bypass an amendment that would have been required to levy just such a tax.3Passing the healthcare bill via the commerce clause.The commerce clause has nothing to do with whether an indivigual enters into a contract with another indivigual. It was ment to assure equity between each state in the union via at the time rail transportation of goods so that one state could not hold another states food or other goods for ransom against their will.(I know that one is a little simplistic)4 Ratifing the bill via a parlementry procedure. When it became apparent to the democrats in congress that they wouldent get the support they needed to pass this fiasco they pulled out a procedure that was ment to solve budget disagreements and used it to pass healthcare. I could go on but it would take more space than allowed here to name it all. So study before making a blanket statment like that. This is exactly what they we formed to do. That being a check and balance between the legislative branch of the goverment and the people. This isnt a totalatarin state yet but this is one step closer. Mike L.

      • http://none Mike

        sorry missed one line. This is eaxctly what they were formed to do.got a little fast on the keybord there
        Mike L.

      • Dan az

        Hey Mike
        Now thats more facts that Poor Remstate could handle,Well done sir!

      • http://none Mike

        Yea that got my collar steamed. What the crap was he thinking when he wrote that comment? Sure waent much logic in it. Mike L.

      • Kate8

        The NWO democrats have an agenda, and they aren’t letting the Constitution get in their way. They just ‘deem’ to have the authority.

        The Supreme’s aren’t going to touch it because, if they do, they’ll have to outright rule against the Constitution. IT’S NOT ABOUT HEALTHCARE. It’s their implementation of the total-control grid. There is so much in this bill that has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with healthcare, but has EVERYTHING to do with controlling our lives. Or our deaths.

        They’ve stacked the courts with their operatives now. We the People no longer have ‘standing’ to protest ANYTHING these elites want to do to us. They’ve come right out and SAID that they don’t care about the Constitution. If pressed, they simply make something up. Or say something that is nothing, like Pelosi’s “Are you serious?”.

        It remains to be seen if this Congress will stop it. They always have the out of blaming Obama and the Senate for their failure to do so.

        I think we’re just being played, as usual. I hope I’m wrong.

      • JC

        The whole premise of Kenyan Health care is anti-Constitution.
        It removes Choice. It imposes financial control. It forces compliance.
        Any one of these is enough to prove its un Constitutional…together though, it’s downright Communist!
        So much for the bought and paid for politicized US Supreme Kangaroo Court.
        Makes ya proud to be an American Don’t it? :(

      • Kinetic1

        Lot’s of great information there, Mike, but you didn’t answer Remy’s question. “Please name the exact situation where Sotomayor and Kagan have acted in a manner that equates to radical activism?” As for hearing the case, the folks at WiseGeek have this to say:

        “The “Rule of Four” controls matters when deciding which issues the high court will hear. If four justices agree that a specific petition for writ of certiorari should be granted, then the case will be placed on the Supreme Court’s docket and an order stating that certiorari has been granted will be issued to the petitioner.”

        So if Roberts. Alito, Scalia and Thomas all vote yea, then it’s set. They must not have, and I don’t pretend to know why, but it’s out. You may not be pleased with President Obama’s picks, and I don’t know how they felt about hearing this case, but It appears that the conservative wing of the court did not feel it warranted a hearing in the highest court in the land. At least not yet.

      • JC

        Both are antigun and anti Constitution. Their own track records say so.

      • http://none Mike

        Kinetic, I understand what you are saying , But this healthcare bill set so many precidents I would think they would at least here the cases for and against this law. Any time a new law is passed the supream court has the right to reviw it. That is part of their charter. I think the fix was in they were told behind closed doors to leave this one alone.Mike L.

      • http://none Mike

        ugg more coffee Hear I ment Mike L.

      • Kinetic1

        J.C.
        You have the right to make that claim, but you still must show action they have taken as SC justices that reflects those claims and establishes cause for impeachment. At this time I would say the only Judge who’s head is legitimately on the block is Thomas, now that another women has come forth to back up claims of sexual harassment. If this can be verified, then Thomas is guilty of perjury.

      • Kinetic1

        Mike,
        Or they did a cursory review and deemed it not worthy of a hearing. Or the case presented was not the right one. Or…. We can try to read their minds till the cows come home, or interpret their actions through our own bias, but neither will bring a satisfactory resolution.

      • http://none Mike

        Kinetic, I am waiting to see the reaction to the case Mark Levin brings before the court he seems to have the best one so far. You might be right the case California had may have been weak or flawed in some way that it didnt merit hearing. I am just a bit irate that this bill was passed useing cloakroom tactics. And thinly veild in socialisim. Reforms could be made in many areas though without the forcefull shoveing of this bill down our throats. One quit forceing pharmasuitical companies to sell to other countries at reduced rates. I will never understand why we ae forced to bear the brunt of the cost for development and other countries are not.2 The quicker development of generics shorten the pattent times on new drugs. I could go on but I have to take my mother to the doctor. Ill be back later though.

      • Kinetic1

        Mike,
        Hope our mother is well. I agree with both of your pharma related ideas.

      • Kinetic1

        OOOPS, YOUR mother (although I hope mine is well too.)

      • http://none Mike

        Kinetic, Thanks it was a mental check up she has alzhimers and its rough. But I am not ready to send her to a home if I can still handel it. Thats another thing about this bill I really dont like shes medicare and this year due to the cuts she hit the donut hole early. Since she just recives 1/2 my fathers retirement(he has passed as well alzhimers also)and a small stipend from social security the medications she needs to function are extreamly costly. I no longer work other than odd handyman jobs so I can devote time to her care as well as my sister.So you can understand where I come from on that. Its tight but through the grace of god and a good community support group we are surviveing.We hope that by next year that the most expensive one of her medications is in on the generic program. This should let you know I have been force fed my homework on the ramifications of this health care bills direct impact on me and my family. Mike L.

      • Kinetic1

        Mike,
        I’m so sorry to hear about your mother. I have been blessed in as much as I have not had to deal with Alzheimer’s. I recounted some of my families medical issues before, and dealing with my father’s cancer was bad enough. My thoughts will be with you and your family.

      • http://none Mike

        Thank you Kinetic, Yea cancer is a bad one too. My father with the alzheimers was in the early stages of identification of the diseas. Back I guess nearly 15 years ago.The doctors recomended a nursing home for him. I got my first real look at one of thoes and was appalled. It seemed to me that they just ran human trials on these patients there. We went through the gambit of medications with him. None of which seemed to help. So when we got the diagnosis with mom I made the decision that if at all possible it was going to be home care for her. Mike L.

      • JC

        Kinetic1 says:
        November 18, 2010 at 2:56 pm
        J.C.
        You have the right to make that claim, but you still must show action

        Do your own homework Kinetic. Despite your Liberal Philosophy, I don’t work for you. And there’s nothing to debate with you. You’re a socialist and therefore have no standing.
        (Note the general laziness of Liberals.)

      • LeRoyZ

        Another thing about this health care issue. I got an e-mail the other day about something I hadn’t heard of before. The word is ‘Dhimmitude”. It’s supposed to be confirmed on Snopes but I haven’t had a chance to check it out. Supposedly, it is discussed or at least mentioned in the health care bill. It is taxing non-believers in support of Muslims. Muslims consider insurance to be gambling, or usury, so they will be exempted from the health care law on those grounds and won’t have to purchase insurance and won’t be fine for refusing to do so. Not the case for us infidels. Also, I saw somewhere that something like 111 companies have filed for waivers from the health care law. Let’s see….Muslims exempt, companies exempt, Congresspersons exempt….Who else??

      • Kinetic1

        LeRoyZ,
        “Dhimmitude” denotes an attitude of concession, surrender and appeasement towards Islamic demands. and is used here as a derogatory claim about the health care bill and is not included in the bill. The bill does have an exemption clause for those who wish to appeal, and it is generally assumed that Anabaptists (Amish and the likes) will be exempt as they have a history of declining social security and other government programs. Islam on the other hand, has no hard and fast rule or history to back it up. Many Muslim communities make exceptions to the “gambling” restrictions for legal requirements like auto insurance, so it is generally assumed that they will not meet the requirements for exemption.

      • Christin

        LeRoyZ,
        You are right. I have heard the same things. Muslims, 111 corporations and their employees, Congress, probably all the White House Cabinet and czars, AND the poor who can’t pay… so let’s see, that leaves… the Constitutional Conservative Patriotic Americans… and Pro-obamacare Liberals, too… to foot the WHOLE Health Insurance Tax for the entire Nation! Isn’t that great?! ;)

      • Kinetic1

        Christin,
        You didn’t even bother to read the information I offered, did you? “I heard” is not a reasonable substitute for research. I covered the Muslim tale, so here you go on the 111;

        According to the website of the Health and Human Services Department, HHS has approved 111 applications “for waivers from annual limit requirements” for one year. As Bloomberg reported, the waivers allow companies with “so-called mini-med or limited benefit plans that employers use for low-wage or part-time workers” to “avoid raising the minimum amount of insurance coverage to $750,000 starting next year.”

        The idea here is that some companies are providing limited health coverage for their low wage/part time employees. Those plans do not pay out the “minimum” required by the bill, but it would be punitive to require these companies to elevate part time employees to full time benefits. If they cancelled their policies, these employees would likely qualify for government aid, so the very fact that these companies provide ANY coverage makes them better than most. To deal with this issue they have been given a 1 year exemption for those employees. Let’s say that again, ONE YEAR EXEMPTION FOR THEIR LOW WAGE AND PART TIME EMPLOYEES ONLY.

        Of course you didn’t hear these details on Beck, Breitbart or FOX. If you heard the story from any of them you were left to assume that ALL the employees were PERMANENTLY exempt just because they had the lawyers and the money to get out of it. You have to dig for the truth, but it’s out there if you care.

      • ValDM

        LeRoyZ,
        A full list of the 111 companies that the gov’t has waived is available on http://www.theblaze.com. You would be amazed that the list is rife w/unions, health care providers and health care insurers. If I find this list elsewhere, I will post it again.

      • eddie47d

        Christin; There is a Republican Representative in Maryland;a DR Andy Harris who was newly elected. He said he would vote against the healthcare bill. He actually thought HIS government insurance plan was going to kick in the day he was elected and he demanded it go into effect immediately. It won’t be effective until Feb 25,2011. So alot of anti-”Obama care” folks will slam his plan but demand good coverage for themselves. What a hypocrite.

      • who cares

        you are an IDIOT your brain dead commies are going 2 believe you

      • TIME

        Remy,
        Lets pretent your right, ok then please answer the following question.
        The Supreme Courts job is to do only one thing, that is to see how laws passed or verdicts handed down parallel with the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Is that statment right or wrong?

        Ok I will answer for you, YES thats right – Thats its, thats all they are to do; based on whats within their JOB Description parameters.
        How do I know this, my wifes uncle was a lawayer who was granted the privilege of presenting case law to the Supreme Court.

        Is it not strange that Kegans job prior to her new post was to overlook case’s pending the SC based on merit and value, this is also known as a Law Clerk.
        Is it not also very strange that she held back all cases that involved one “Barry Soetoro” from ever being brought to the SC?

        Yes thats right it was Kegan who held back the countless Law Suits all asking the Supreme Court to make the “Congress and Senate” do their jobs and VET Barry Soetoro.
        Just how strange is that?
        But whats really strange is how she became a Supreme Court Justice after doing what I just noted. Can you say Political PayOla? As I recall that falls under the RECO ACT, again how wierd is that the President of the United States of America acting like a Mob Boss?

        How odd that the alledged most solid court system in the Country was preverted. Oh, asked and answered.

        Be all that as it may, how odd is it that what you think is a square peg you are told is really round, are your eyes that bad, or is it that your thinking is bent?
        Or could it in fact be that you have been lied to and deceived?

      • Kate8

        TIME – Thanks for that info. It spells SET-UP. They made sure all stop-gaps were in place before we’d have the chance to overturn this abomination, which any legitimate court would do.

        This is the communist’s prize, their ticket to tyranny. They don’t care what we think. They intend to dispose of us, anyway.

      • Christin

        Kate8,
        All that TIME said is true. Now we can see the “structure” that the progressives/ communists have been working on for decades and put in place to dominate, control and rule. And now we can see that they have turned ON the “machine” to do its job and do their bidding.

        They are building a kingdom here on Earth… what many here call a Progressive Utopia.

        Their kingdom is evil and it is much like like the tower of Babel. Just take a look at the EU building. (The development of the EU: “One United Europe” was socially engineered to make a large powerful country to top all others.) As for the people, well, they are making “bricks” out of Europeans and us… where we are all the same and have conformity, like king Nimrod did in Babel. But, we were made in the image of God with “uniqueness” like “rocks” which are different. They have taken away our “American heritage (history) and spirituality (God)” and replaced it with “materialism” (be in debt)which is the new “mortar” that cements us together.

        But the ending to the “Tower of Babel” Bible history where king Nimrod, the Hunter of People, had the people build him a tower so high into the heavens ….is that God did not honor Nimrod’s changing His people from His image… and put and end to the tower, shaking the ground, giving the people different languages, and scattering them about the earth. Essentially, God blessed the people by making them all stones again. God gave the people their uniqueness back. Nimrod’s reign ended and so God will once again step in to put a stop to this Godless kingdom (satan’s kingdom on Earth) that the Progressives are building, because He [God] is for “the people” that He created in His image to worship Him, not corrupt governments.

        God’s Kingdom is in heaven and we have been called to be salt of the Earth (on fire for Jesus) and to live here “in” society on earth, but not to be “of” the things on earth, which is conformity. Time for us to shine our candles or lighthouse beams to be a becon to others to help them find their way to God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit.

        The “Tower of Babel Blueprint” is to eliminate distinction between individuals and countries, and to bring it all together under one tower of government… the NWO …sound to you like this is what they are doing?

      • Kate8

        Christin – Yes, indeed! And thank the Lord for Rabbi Lapin! I just ordered his CDs on Genesis. Love that guy.

        These are the revelations from scripture that we need. Christianity has either not understood the Bible symbolism well, or has concealed it. Many of the older Jewish Rabbis has kept this knowledge, and we are hungry for it.

        The Bible says that what has been long hidden will be revealed in the Last Days. I’m amazed at the things we are beginning to understand. It’s like the floodgates to knowledge have been opened (‘knowledge will be increased’) and all the puzzle pieces are coming together.

        The great news is that the NWO will never win. It’s just going to be a crazy ride while they go down. That is why it is so important for us to try to see this shaking as a positive thing for us, and also to understand that we CANNOT control it. We do what we can, but leave the rest to Divine Wisdom. There is a plan.

        I can get pretty nuts about things, but then God reminds me that He is in charge and His plan is to free us. Then I calm down, get perspective and give thanks that I don’t have to figure it all out.

      • Christin

        Kate8,
        I am in agreement with you. Yes, I, too, am thirsty for the deeper true wisdom from the Bible and the elder Jewish Rabbis have the Hebrew meanings and symbolism that we need for greater understanding… just like God to bring people together!

        How did you order Rabbi Lapin’s tapes? I am glad to have heard him speak on the Tower of Babel story and I esp. liked the symbolism of the rocks and the bricks and the blessing of freedom at the end.

        I am with you on your last paragraph. It is crazy out there and in God’s perfect timing He will FREE us from this slavery and persecution.

      • Kate8

        Christin – Here’s the link to Rabbi Lapin:

        https://www.rabbidaniellapin.com/index.php

        He has a free newsletter you can sign up for, too. Great stuff.

      • Christin

        Thanks for the link, Kate8!
        Appreciate it.

      • Kinetic1

        TIME,
        Is it odd that Kagen, after reviewing the merits of petitions to the court to hear cases against Barack Obama chose not to forward them for consent? Well, I suppose it is if you are inclined to believe that President Obama is not a citizen of the U.S. For those of us (and that would be 73% based on the latest polls) who do NOT believe this charge, then it seems very sensible not to waste the court’s time.

        As for the relationship between the President and the SC Judge, they have known each other for years. They met in Chicago and their paths crossed often in the legal world. So what? The President chose someone he knew shared his views as a SC justice. I’ll bet Bush wishes he had known more about one or two of his choices. And it’s nothing new. President Lincoln named his former campaign manager to the high court, and Andrew Jackson appointed several friends to the Supreme Court. Franklin D. Roosevelt picked his Securities and Exchange Commission chairman, William O. Douglas; Harry S. Truman named his attorney general, Tom C. Clark; and Lyndon Johnson picked his friend Abe Fortas. You can bask in conspiracy theories and RICO claims all you want (and I’m sure there are many others on this site who will join you) but it’s just not all that dark and mysterious.

      • sylviam

        ALSO SHARED THE VIEW of LA RAZA as well as SOCIALISM, and other things just as bad. Taking PAYOLA is a small thing in comparison to some of the others.
        GOD BLESS AMERICA

      • TIME

        KIN1,

        The only reason I am responding to your post is so anyone who read it understands that its flawed. Otherwise I would not waste my TIME.

        No the polls clearly are quite the opposite from your stated number of 73% who feel Barry Soetoro is a Natural born American.

        As it goes these numbers are going up on the side of persons
        “who feel Barry Soetoro is NOT” a natural born American.
        That number is now at 71% who feel that way, JFR – thats up from 58% just nine months ago. But nice try.

      • Kinetic1

        Time,
        CNN July 2010
        Do you think Barack Obama was definitely born in the United States, probably born in the United
        States, probably born in another country, or definitely born in another country?
        42% definitely, 29% probably =71%
        Sure, you could play the skeptic and say definitely not, 11% probably not 16% and probably 29% = 56% but that’s pushing it, don’t you think? How about Republicans!
        definitely not, 14% probably not 27% and probably 34% = 75% Hey! There’s your number! but realistically it’s definitely 23% probably 34% = 57% likely even among Republicans. Now you may have a more recent poll to site, though most reputable polling companies have long since forgotten about this nonsense. If so, pass it on. I’d love to see their methodology.

        Now I’ll tell you (just in case you aren’t sure) that I fall into the defiantly group, even though I can’t prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt. Heck, I can’t prove that I was born in America based on the demands skeptics are making. I’ll just have to take my mother’s word for it.

      • Kate8

        TIME, K1, We all know it just depends on where you are taking the polls. As liberals and get one view, as conservatives and get the opposite.

        We all know the drill.

      • Kate8

        Besides, Not ONE court has denied the charges that Soetoro is alien-born. They just deny that We the People, or anyone else, have standing in the courts.

        If that isn’t a signal that our Constitutional protections have been voided, I don’t know what is. This, along with Obamacare and every other piece of legislation that’s come out of the Congressional whorehouse in DC.

      • Kinetic1

        Kate8′
        The July 2010 CNN poll was clearly broken up into Dems, Repub and Indi. The first numbers I gave were the combined totals, so this has nothing to do with cherry picking for results. The MAJORITY of those polled, from any party agreed that President Obama was likely born in America. Period. If you want to imply that TIME has gone looking for a poll that favors his view, fine, but you can look mine up.

      • eddie47d

        They sure line up behind the poll numbers when it favors them. Surprisingly most legitimate polls are within a 4-5 point error ratio and can be believed. Most political polls are accurate but are only good for a few days since Americans are always changing their minds.

      • Average Joe

        Kinetic1,

        I am still trying to understand what “poll” numbers have to do with anything? Polls are made up of opinions and nothing more. We all know about those dang old opinions…right? The last time I checked, the only opinion that mattered to me was…well….mine (just as I am sure that yours matters to you).Just because 99.9999% believe one way, is not going to change my opinion. I arrived at my opinion the same way everyone does. I looked at the situation (whatever it may be)from every possible angle I could and formulated my opinion based soley on the facts as I know them. Those who put their faith in poll numbers are part of the “collective” (look at me, I’m in the 73% group because I believe this way). As an individual, I tend to think as an individual….I am not part of this group,that group or any other group. I have my opinions and everyone else has theirs…end of story. Poll numbers are just for those of you that need to feel that you are part of a specific “group”….the “collective”. Resistance is not futile….In other words…think for yourselves and don’t let poll numbers sway you from your convictions.

      • Edge Architect

        I wish you people would speak a little clearer English… Jeeess!!

      • jd

        You show me anywhere in the Constitution that the government has the authority to impose any law of this type.
        It is the job of the supreme court to uphold the Constitution.
        Only the states can do this if approved by the citizens.

      • Wanda Murline

        Kagan has been the defense lawyer for Obama in every aspect of protecting his birth certificate, passports from the 80′s and his college information. How’s that one for you. Not only that she changed wording on a Supreme Court case to changed the way the court looked at the case…she is a liberal radical judge, and the congress who put her in there did no vetting on her at all or they would have, at least read the information that the public found against her. This is the start. Unfortunately, in the end, America will have to stand on her own and declare independence from the tyranical government we now have. Get ready, it is coming.

      • RePete

        Yes Wanda, it is coming.

        Forget about radicalism. Kagan has never been a Judge in her life. She lacks, in every sense of the word, “experience.” Just as Owebama. Who are these people?

        There are conflicts of interest at every level of Government and our Politicians have found a way to cheat the system (Pelosi). Our duly elected Representatives in Congress were not allowed to vote on the Health care bill, which the American people overwhelmingly opposed.

        One only needs to review the Declaration of Independence to foretell what happens when the taxpayers are not represented by those who govern them.

        Politicians prey on the uninformed. Yet it is the uninformed who will lead the charge once they truly understand the treachery that has unfolded in recent times.

        There will be a new deck of cards issued when the time comes. And the names and faces of those who enriched themselves at the taxpayers expense will be readily available and widespread.

      • Kinetic1

        RePete,
        The rules for nomination to the Supreme Court do not require that you have any experience as a judge, and many scholars believe that it is important to have this diversity. In the history of the court, 41 of the 110 SC justices were not sitting judges prior to their selection. The most famous of these would be William Rehnquist, and I doubt there are many who would attack him for his decisions based on lack of “experience.”

        As for Health Care Reform, by March of 2010 polls were showing 49% to 40% Americans support of the bill. A very telling poll in January found that only 42% supported the bill, that is until they were informed about what in contained. Some aspects, such as the cost caused a small drop in support, but when participants were told about the preexisting condition clause, or the tax credits for employers, the numbers jumped by as much as 20%. This tale about the public being against the health care bill is just that, a tale told by the conservatives to make political hay. Even in those polls where the number of people who responded “unfavorable” to some degree, they included in that number many who were upset that the bill did not go far enough. Split out those who didn’t want it at all from those who wanted the bill to include a public option and, once again the majority of Americans did not oppose this bill.

      • Andy

        It seems that Kinetic1 is the one telling tales here as they point to a poll in January. Polls say a very different thing now.

        58% Favor Repeal of Health Care Law, 37% Oppose Repeal

        http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/health_care_law

      • Kinetic1

        Andy,
        I chose an earlier poll, not to sway the numbers but to reflect the opinion of the public BEFORE the bill was passed. There is a lot of talk about the administration “forcing this bill down our throats” but it depends on current polls and ignores the mood of the public back when this was first being debated.

        If we go back to 2009 we find polls like the Quinnipiac poll from August 5. “Do you support or oppose giving people the option of being covered by a government health insurance plan that would compete with private plans?” The results show 62% support and 32% opposed. No doubt, those on the conservative side didn’t like the idea (only 40% approved) but the majority approved of major reforms. Now, try and appease the Republicans in Congress, ignore the fact that they have stated their intent to oppose any health care bill, even with compromises, weaken the bill to try and appease them anyway and allow this to drag on for months while the Republicans work to diminish public support through the media and you get to where we are now.

        If President Obama had been more like President Bush and used his majority to push through what he wanted rather than worrying about “bipartisanship” we would have a public option. Conservatives would still be upset but I believe it is likely that Progressives who now oppose the bill would be on board, significantly altering the current poll numbers in favor of the legislation.

      • eddie47d

        So true Kinetic

      • Dave

        Kagan falsified a report under the Clinton administration and then lied in her confirmation hearings about her role in the ruling on partial birth abortions. Based on this alone, she should not have been confirmed. How can she be trusted to make impartial rulings? She should be impeached immediately, but there are not enough votes in the Senate to do it.

      • Kate8

        Kegan is a communist operative, and was chose for this purpose. She wasn’t vetted because it didn’t matter. The Senate was instructed to confirm by their NWO masters. Period. Besides, they are in on it.

      • Stevo

        These blind,ignorant supporters of the Democrat party are not going to believe the truth until it bites them on the ass.Even then I doubt they will.Liberalism is a mental condition that afflicts the lazy,non selfstarters of the world.They really think government is gonna save us all.What fools.

      • Christin

        Stevo,
        “Liberalism is a mental condition”… Watch “How a Progressive Thinks” at: http:/www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c

        This a link from another poster that I think best explains why the Liberals think and act as they do. They literally can not differentiate or discriminate between right & wrong, good & evil, better & worst, and success & failure… doesn’t that explain a LOT.

        They must make us all conform to be “alike” and America is full of unique individuals, but not when they stip us of our Rights, Freedoms, Liberites, jobs, income, colorful clothing, and homes… we will be the “molded (man-made) brick” …not “unique rock” made in God’s image …that they desire to rule. Once we become “bricks” we are expendable.

      • Christin

        “How a Progressive Thinks”
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c

      • eddie47d

        Christine; I would give the video a C since it was strictly a personal opinion. He was spot on about the influence of Hollywood and a few things. He rambled on about Saddam but more in terms that he was Jewish and they all hate this guy. I know of no liberal who choose him over America yet he insisted on saying that. We have to have a better reason to go to war than any of the excuses we’ve heard.

      • Christin

        eddie47d,
        I thought the video was a great explanation of a Liberals mindset from a former liberal. I was only interested in his expanation of Liberalsim as it pertains to their inability to see and hear truth.

        As far as any of his other comments I don’t care.
        On War… shut it down… bring our men and women in the military home. They can be hired at airports to utilize “dogs” for bomb and chemical sniffing and for security and secondary verbal discussions of people of interest. They’d be great.
        And we can get rid of the radiation porn screening and the groping sexual assulting of men and women’s bodies. What idiot came up with that idea anyway? Then real security of checking ALL people traveling would happen, not just to patriotic Americans, but also Muslim men and women wearing barkas could be sniffed and talked to instead of them going right on by those two screenings since evidentally the gov’t says that my religion says I can be molested, but theirs says they can’t.
        Off the topic of the video, but not off the topic in my brain… sorry.

      • Eddie

        Remy,I can’t get myself wrapped around to “deal with it”. The Supreme Court has one job and that’s to interpret the Constitution as it applies to the cases that come before the court. A legitimate request was presented to interpret the Constitutionality of Obamacare. It was refused. That’s a deriliction of duty and failure to do the job the justices are being paid for. Sotomayor and Kagan have been known to place their own political views as their means of arriving at decisions in their careers. Given Kagan’s never sat on a bench prior to her SCOTUS appointment is evidence enough that the fools who confirmed her was a political decision in favor of Obama. The last elections were a defining referendum against Obama,his policies,and his appointments. The Democrats paid dearly deservedly so. We remain stuck with the unholy trinity of Obama/Dirty Harry/Pelosi with the stupidity of voters in Nevada putting Harry back in. That’s harder to “deal with” than whatever exists in SCOTUS.

      • Lonetrader

        I am not so sure that Reid actually won in Nevada. Angle won 14 out of 17 counties. There were cases of electronic malfunction of the voting booths. I say we do a revote in Nevada, only no electronic voting. We go back to the punch cards and have a non union, non partisan count the ballots. I’ll bet you that the outcome would be a lot different. Was there voter fraud bt Reid?? More chance of it than not.

      • Kate8

        I wouldn’t be looking for the SCOTUS to protect our interests, folks. They’ve fallen now, too.

      • Kate8

        During the confirmation of Justice Roberts, he was asked (by one of the democrat senators) if he’d be able to rule on the Contitutionality of implanting chips in the American population, because it would be coming up during his office.

        He made it through, didn’t he?

      • Kinetic1

        Kate8,
        That was Biden who asked about the chips, and I have not found any response from Roberts. So what is your point?

      • Christin

        Kinetic1,

        The “chip” or “microchip” is the “Mark of the Beast” (aka. satan, the devil, you know the fallen angel, Lucifer), but so is “666″ on your forehead. That IS a BIG deal, not a “so what” response. Any gov’t officials who think the chip is Okay or Good are bad news for our FREEDOMS.

      • Kinetic1

        Christin,
        You religious beliefs aside, I stand by my question. There is nothing to indicate that then Senator Biden approved of these implants (in fact the tone of his question suggested just the opposite) and I can not find a record of Justice Roberts’ response, so what is the point of brining this up? If Roberts had said “heck ye, stick ‘em in” then we’d have a discussion, but he didn’t. A question was asked, we don’t know the response and now the man is a seated Justice. What does that prove?

      • Kate8

        K1, I didn’t get to hear his answer, either. My point is that these creeps in charge plan to do it, and they want judges who will rule that they can.

      • Kate8

        K1, I know they plan to do it because it’s already written into the healthcare legislation.

      • Kinetic1

        Kate8,
        Most of the sites I see talking about this refer to HR 3200, which is not the most current bill. What is in this bill is a registry “to facilitate analysis of post-market safety and outcomes data on each device that— ‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; ‘‘(B) and is— ‘‘(I) a class III device; or ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable, life-supporting, or life-sustaining.”

        In other words, these devises are coming. Medical science will be developing this technology to treat health conditions and the government wants all of these registered so that they can monitor the safety and effectiveness of them.

        “Approved by the FDA, a class II implantable device is an “implantable radio frequency transponder system for patient identification and health information.” The purpose of a class II device is to collect data in medical patients such as “claims data, patient survey data, standardized analytic files that allow for the pooling and analysis of data from disparate data environments, electronic health records, and any other data deemed appropriate by the Secretary.”

        So, if your health care provider requests that you have one of these units implanted to facilitate their research, or to provide your health information when needed, the Secretary of Health and Human Services will have authority to regulate what information can be gathered and by whom. Nothing in this bill suggests that we will be required to accept implants. There is nothing I can see about regulations or time lines to implement a program of citizen implantation, but there sure are a lot of people jumping to that conclusion.

        The only reason I posted this was to point out how people take very simple things and turn them into big bad boogy men. You see, HR 3200 did not pass, and as far as I know, none of this is in HR 3590.

      • Eddie

        Lonetrader,I can go along with what you say and it wouldn’t surprise me if there were shenanigans at the polls. Dingy Harry is so crooked that when he dies he’ll have to be screwed into the ground. Your county count no doubt is correct but the voting clout for Nevada remains in Clark County as the most populous and strongly Democrat.
        It was the unions on the Vegas Strip and truckloads of Mexicans both illegal and legal who put Harry back in. If illegals can get Social Security cards etc.,then they also no doubt vote without any hassle.
        If this was considered an honest election by anyone then I’ve a bridge for sale in Brooklyn.

      • Kate8

        K1 – Except that the elites have admitted to the plan to chip us all on several occasions. Not only that, but it’s already going on in parts of the world. India, and some other third-worlders, to name some. In fact, people are being implanted here, for ‘safety’ and/or ‘security’ purposes.

        Our pets are all being chipped. This is to get us used to it.

        You are being very naieve, Kinetic, if you think these people are all about our well-being. They talk about controlling us, culling us, removing all access to wholesome foods and natural medicines and supplements, taxing us to death, relocating us to crowded cities… And still you choose to trust them.

        Good luck with your chip.

      • azwayne

        Kagan committed perjury during vetting circus, not impeachable, wake up. Reclused herself in half cases coming up because she’s cause they are there, we sure get our money’s worth.

      • Robert

        News flash they were not vetted that went through the motion for show dumbass.Wake up before it is too late.Kagaan speaking of international law when looking at cases here in the US. Sotomoyer is going to use her latina background to rule. Both of these women should never have been seated on the bench.

    • Dennis

      Looks like Barrys B!+(#’s are paying off, They are so so Corrupt.

    • usmadgirl

      June,

      Couldn’t have said it better myself!

  • http://none Mike

    Supream court what a joke. But we knew this was comming. Just another case of you scratch my back Ill scratch yours. Brought to you by the legislative and judicial branches of the goverment.when it comes to the constitutionality of a law these guys are supposed to be our last defence? Hang on folks its comming to a death panel near you. Mike L.

    • Robin

      Mike, sweety, since the Supreme court declared that corporations are now “people”, 80% of wealth is held by 1% of the population. We are no longer a democracy. We have become an oligarchy (look it up) and do you think they won’t want that extra 20%? Plus they don’t want to pay taxes. So, now that there is a dwindling middle class and the poor get back money even though they pay no tax at all, where is money for education, etc, going to come from? You have been duped by the likes of Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck who work with the Republicans the create fear and distrust. Do you even know what a “death panel” is? You apparently have access to a computer, start thinking for yourself.

      • bp

        Robin;
        The current Medicare & Medicaid government systems have bureaucratized doctor, nurse & social-worker “gatekeepers” who authorize (or more ofen not) the care prescribed for an individual. That is just one step away from a “death-panel” and the fate of ALL AMERICANS under the so-called ObummerCare. Who are You calling “sweetie”?

      • Kate8

        bp – When my mom went to the hospital on her final day of life, I left my brother at her bedside because I had to run a quick errand. She told me, “You’d better hurry. Their coming soon with morphine”.

        I didn’t understand at the time, but when I got back she was already unconscious, and died a few hours later. She knew.

        I found out later from a friend who is a hospital nurse that they give morphine routinely to hurry the process. Same thing happened to my dad.

        We already have death panels. They are just becoming more brazen.

      • http://www.PatrioticChristiansToday.com Chris

        This is only in cases where their condition is causing them great pain and there situation is terminal. They would not have done that if you had communicated your time frame and intentions to be right back. But the onset of Morphine does in fact speed the process when they are that close to the end.

      • bbstacker

        And they arrested Kevorkian for making the process voluntary and painless to those who REQUESTED it as sovereign souls. This monster we still politely call gov’t is in need of something…um, help me here….um…revolutionary.

      • eddie47d

        I hate to tell you Kate but most doctors and nurses know when that end of life is very near. That is also why they have hospises that our elderly get sent to. Doctors usually know how long a person has to live,within reason. That hardly makes that a death panel. Many years ago the elderly died at home and some still do. Back then some elderly who knew they were going to die and didn’t want to be a burden any longer to their families would go outside or out in the woods and let the cold night take them. Some people pass away peacefully and others are in pain for months and years. Some even insist that it’s God’s will that someone lies there and suffers. Those people should put themselves in the shoes of the dying and really listen to their wishes.

      • Vigilant

        Kate8,

        My father in-law died in 1998 in the Netherlands. With terminal cancer, the M.O. amongst the Dutch doctors was exactly the same as you describe, and it apparently was common knowledge. I wasn’t aware that it was being done here as well.

        Technically the procedure is euthanasia, and it’s a violation of law. As a smoker, I see the possibility of lung cancer for myself some day, and I can tell you that if I reach that point, I would rather go out in a morphine haze than to be forced to suffer just because someone else’s blind morality prohibits ir.

        Death panels are somewhat different in nature; according to Rahm Emmanuel’s brother, a table would be prepared to show the expenses of particular treatments, and a person’s useful remaining life span would be used to determine the availability of treatment options.

        That, to me, is an unbelievably inhumane manner of treating human beings. It is, of course, a leftist idea, and provides further confirmation that liberals, so often touting their “sensitivity,” have absolutely no sensitivity and treat human beings as statistics.

        Give me the conservative reverence for life any day of the week.

      • Kaxic

        Kate8, to my understanding, morphine does not lead to death under normal quantities. It rather relieves (an unavoidable) pain.

      • http://e.jr0214@sbcglobal Ed

        (offensive comment removed)

      • http://www.historynet.com/peter-francisco-american-revolutionary-war-hero.htm Portuguese Revolutionary War Hero – Peter Francisco

        Republic RISING.

        IT’s not about Bushlicans or Obamacrats the WHOLE SYSTEM is Corrupt and needs to be ABOLISHED and replaced with De jure Gov’t.
        Join us as we inhabit the REPUBLIC and Re-Establish SOVEREIGNITY and LIBERTY.

        http://www.RepublicoftheunitedStates.org
        DEMOCRACY = TAX SLAVERY = TYRANNY

      • home boy

        hey girl. fyi we were never and are not even now a democracy. we are a REPUBLIC. you must have been educated in a government school.

      • bbstacker

        Great slam at the idiot who thinks this was ever a democracy. Ben knew the endless fight to even imagine that we’d keep the Republic, and Americans have forgotten their Heritage through gov’t education. A Republic…if we could have kept it. We are truly coming to a crossroads in this finest of experiments to build a nation among all others.

      • (WIA) Wild Indian in Action

        Robin, Hey sweetie look it up, we have never been a Democracy, we are and until further notice shall remain a REPUBLIC. Look it up for yourself sweetie.

      • Bus

        It’s just semantics. A republic is the Latin word and Democracy is the Greek word. One means thing of the people, the other means rule by the people. Madison used the term Republic (which most educated people would define as Representative Democracy) because of the fear of the 1776 elite that the unwashed masses might have too much of a voice…Thus the only direct election in our entire federal governement was for the House seats.

      • http://foundersrevolution.blogspot.com/ Patriot1776

        It is MUCH more than symantics….Democracy is nothing more than the tyranny of the majority! in other words 51% of the people can vote away the rights of the other 49%. This is precisely why the founders gave us a REPUBLIC so ALL people were represented NOT just the majority. The idea of democracy is closer to a dictatorship than it is to a repuplican form of government. The founders were adament about this.

      • AZ Apache Native

        Native American Brother, thank you for sharing our Sovereignty with our foreign brothers that now occupy the land of our fathers. Yes, you are correct! The Constitution declares that we are a Republic not a democracy. President Lincoln could not get Congress to convene after the Civil War and the evil foreign bankers stepped in without incident. Now we must educate our foreign brothers about those selfish and blind democracy leaders creating laws that do not apply to us. The courts are corrupt and represent only the evil bankers. Our Master Creator will protect the people and bring peace and tranquility to all those that belive.

      • Eddie

        Thank you Wild Indian and others for reminding Robin we are a Constitutional Republic and not a Democracy which is mob rule. No apology for raining on your parade Robin,it would be a sign of weakness. May I suggest Robin you go to a used book store and try to find a high school textbook from the 1950′s anyway and maybe the sixties that is titled History of The United States. There you’ll find the truth about our great country versus the junk you’ve been fed in your government sponsored education.

      • Eric Bischoff

        I also recommend “A young people’s history of the United States” from Columbus to the Spanish-American War by Howard Zinn

      • allison

        Don’t worry about whether we are a Democracy or a Republic. Within 40 years we will be a Theocracy (A nation ruled by or subject to religious control). The religion will be Muslim and the law will be Sharia. It will not require guns or bloodshed. They are just out breeding us and they will be able to vote for the Koran to be the law of the United States. It will happen within 15 years in Europe. One baby every two and a half years starting as young as puberty for about 30-35 years. A Muslim woman is required to be sexually available to her husband any time he wishes it.

      • http://none Mike

        Robin, Yes I have been thinking for myself for at least 32 years now(I am 42)As far as being brainwashed no thank you. For your information I have studied and done my homework on death panels. Death Panel= Doctors and insurance companies both privet and goverment run. Getting together in confrance to decide your end of life care. If they so deem it and your past your prime say 50+. And the diseas or ailment is deemed either incurable or very low survival rate. They will decide whether you get treatment other than pain medication. This will take your right to decide what care you recive out of your hands and place it with your provider. Do you want someone else to make THAT decision for you or would you like to do it yourself? As far as talk raido or any other media influncing me I rarely listen to anyone other than Savage ,Levin or Art Bell. I hadent even herd of Glenn Beck untill recently and I am pretty burned out By Rush.Mike L.

      • J__44

        Robin sweetie, America is not a Democracy my ignorant pet; it is a Constitutional Republic. Why dont your take your condescending butt to the library and read the Constitution? Perhaps it is a good thing the Supreme Court doesn’t want to take it on now. Thank God for Glenn Beck and BHO. BHO for turning the heat up too fast for the frog in the pan and Glenn Beck for showing us the facts, Like Mr. Commie Van Jones and the other the other band of Marxists staking out their tents in Washington.

      • http://foundersrevolution.blogspot.com/ Patriot1776

        You are right about the oligarchy but wrong that we were evr a democracy

    • Carol Dines

      Any other federal employees who refuse to do their jobs are put on probation, perhaps suspended without pay, depending on how many times they have goofed up.

      I see nothing wrong of treating Supreme Court Judges the same way. After all it is the Peoples business.

    • Eric Bischoff

      This isn’t a surprise. Much preparation went in to load the court with conservatives in the last few years. How do you like the results so far hey?

      • Kate8

        Eric, For the most part, I’ve been very happy with the rulings of the most conservative Supremes, thank you. Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas are to exceptional Justices, and adhere to the Constitution as our founders intended to the best of their abilities.

        Following the intent of our founders is not activism. The Leftist robes on the Bench are partisan activist hacks, and couldn’t care less about our founders.

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