Beginning Of The End Of The Fed?

November 5, 2010 by Bob Livingston

Representative Ron Paul (R-Texas) has a new partner in his battle against the Federal Reserve — his son Rand, the newly elected Senator from Kentucky.

In an interview on Fox Business Wednesday, Ron says he and Rand plan to offer a bill to end the Federal Reserve on their first day of the new Congress. Ron Paul expects to have even more influence over the country’s monetary policy if he is named the new chairman of the Financial Services Subcommittee on Domestic Monetary Policy. This will give him subpoena power, and he could then subpoena Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke.

Fox contributor Judge Andrew Napolitano believes the subpoena is the best way to battle the Fed considering that President Barack Obama would probably veto any bill to end or audit the Fed.

For the uninitiated, the interview by Fox Business’ David Asman of Ron Paul and Napolitano does a great job of clarifying the danger posed by the private banking cartel — known as the Federal Reserve — on our nation’s monetary policy.

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Bob Wire

I’m interested to know what kind of steel is in the is man Rand Paul.

He ‘s says balance the budget and they say 700 million dollar tax break for everyone first.

The debit ceiling will have to be raised at some point.

I see two intersecting point that collide.

I’m going to find me a good seat to this.

Bob L

The tax “breaks’ aren’t new, merely a continuation of the ones already implemented by the Bush administration. Taxing those who control industry, provide employment, is the last thing to even consider in a recession which is far from over.Overhauling welfare,the expensive health care plan,abolishing pork barrel deals will be positive steps. How can this nation afford to shelter and provide for foreign nationals for that matter.Good fences make for good neighbours was never more pertinent than it is today.Take a look at the sitcom in sunny California.

http://victoryinamericaday-11210.blogspot.com Bob Uda

The Fed is a corrupt, lying, thieving, cheating organization filled with criminals. Kill it before it multiplies.
Carlucci

The doctors Paul are very courageous to go against this truly evil malignancy known as the Federal Reserve. Every U.S. president that has ever tried to get rid of central banking cartels has been assassinated, with the exception of Andrew Jackson, who survived an attempted assassination. That in and of itself is a remarkable and miraculous story, as two pistols aimed point blank at his midsection misfired at the same time. Jackson was a huge foe of central banking. He was a war hero from the War of 1812, and was re-elected for a second term when he ran on a platform to rid America of the central bank. The citizenry of America back then were savvy to just how destructive the private fractional banking cartels were and are. If every American saw the documentary the Secret of Oz, there would be rioting in the streets – http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-secret-of-oz/. Please cut and paste this link above and pass it on to all of your friends and ask them to do the same. We have an edge over the citizenry in Andrew Jackson’s day, and that edge is the Internet. This documentary is absolutely fascinating and well done. We can take America back if everyone gets on board and educates themselves on what is really going on, starting with the Federal Reserve which has almost succeeded in killing the American dream with the help of the socialist democrats. Remember, watch the movie, and then pass it on and tell your friends to tell their friends, and so on, and so on…………

“JAVOPE”

Watched the documentary link you provided. VERY INFORMATIVE!
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/the-secret-of-oz/.
JC

Awesome stuff!

For more on the Fed and its origin,
Aaron Russo’s: America – Freedom to Fascism

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173#

An excellent film.

Hannibal Smith

I prefer to look at this issue thus ; with Judge A.Napolitano on our side, we can’t lose..
http://n/a Robo

Ray: PLEASE! The Fed was NEVER a good idea. You need to read “Creature From Jekyll Island” and see that it was an evil and subversive group and plan to undermine and overtake complete control of this country. The evil behind the Fed has been completely exposed for what it is and was from the very beginning. THE FED WAS NEVER A GOOD IDEA! One of the main psychos at the heart of the formation of the Fed was Paul Warburg of the European banking cartel in league with the Rothschilds. This same Mr. Warburg was also a cornerstone member in the formation of the Council On Foreign Relations just a few years later. He was later asked to demurely step down from his position on the board of the Fed prior to WWII because it became well known that his brother was involved, if not in charge, of arranging the finances for Hitler! (with able help from Prescott Bush and his Union Bank of New York—yes, the daddy of George H. W. and the grandaddy of George W.) We are engaged in a new war and I sincerely hope we are not too late in awakening. The very first thing one must do is summon up the courage to confront the true nature of the long standing evil that is behind the Fed, the NWO, Bilderberg and its’ tentacles: the Council On Foreign Relations, the Tri-Lateral Commission, the CIA, the World Health Organization and the FDA, the World Federation of Mental Health, etc. Each of these, one by one must be fully exposed and taken down — and it will be a war. THEN we will get our country back and be the example for the rest of the world that we once were. When our forefathers started this country on its’ founding principles, it was “a bold experiment.” It is time to get bold again. It starts with taking down and running out The Fed!
Howard R Gray

At long last the monster of Jeckel Island will be subject to scrutiny, it may be a while yet but it will happen.

Zimbabwe inflation is on the horizon if the Nation does not stop fiddling the currency. The point to understand here is that the dollar is just a currency it has less and less monetary value left. My shopping basket is costing more and will doubtless inflate monumentally if the Fed and the Treasury continue to dilute the value of the dollar.

The need for an audit and perhaps in the distant future the abolition of the Federal Reserve Bank could just happen. More power to Ron and Rand Paul.

I would like to see some discussion of private or non statist money as an alternative to the dollar to begin focusing on the idea of money that isn’t just a currency with less and less intrinsic value. The most important feature of a non state money system would be value support, by intrinsic value, in short an investment assurance preventing the creeping devaluation or value theft by inflation of the currency by the political class and as an under girdle for freedom for all of us. It is time to revisit laws preventing private or non statist money, the sooner the better as the dollar might be on the Zimbabwean path to self destruction.

Just to mention, as a cautionary tale, that I had my inheritance from my Grandfather in Zimbabwean dollars held in a blocked account preventing withdrawal of the funds, this was a stunt by the British Government and the new Zimbabwean government to avoid a flight of money when Marxist Mugabe took power. The kicker was the Marxist inflated the money out of existence so much so the funds have literally disappeared. If any of you think Weimar inflation isn’t possible I am pleased to tell you I have experienced it for real! The Weimar experience is coming to an economy near you in the next year or so, it could be that soon. Hence I implore folks to start looking at radical alternatives to the dollar currency, we need real money and we need “cash now” not paper later. Talk to your friends about non state and private money.

Non state money issuing is possible it has been done in Scotland, you will find Bank of Scotland and Royal Bank of Scotland notes out there, and private issuing of money is possible but the real need if for a money that is backed by gold and silver or other real value bases not just the right to print notes. Hayek is the economist to start with on examining private or non statist money. It helps to realize that the government is nothing other than a cartel of unincorporated bodies with special privileges to use money like ENRON without the drawback of bankruptcy or insolvency until it is too late. Only on the day the dollar fails will the government be in trouble. The simple message here is to begin the discussion about alternatives to the current system of providing money. Go figure folks.
Todd

Bob, I am going to tell my Representative to vote for Ron Paul! On that note, I want people to see what I been sending to as many as possible. Take special note of number 33 and 34.
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With the recent elections we have a chance to take back America! For this to happen our voices need to be louder than ever. Below is what I am sending to my elected officials. Please take this information and send it to all your elected officials as well. If they don’t here from us, and often, history shows they will fail to legislate for what the majority of the people want. They will legislate in favor of special interests, foreign governments and cronyism. They need to be held accountable!

I am sure you have heard many times that many elected officials think that we are so dumb, we can’t think for ourselves, and we don’t know what is going on so they have to think for us. This is just another very valid reason to send this to your elected officials. Show them you are not dumb, and you do know what is going on…you do know what they are doing to you.

If you think you don’t need to send this to your elected officials because I may Have, don’t, send it anyway. To reiterate, the more they here from us the better our chance of taking back America.

Please share this with as many people as you can.

Thank you for taking these steps to take back America. This will insure the great America we have enjoyed will be that way for future generations to come.

The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it always to be kept alive.
Thomas Jefferson
3rd president of US (1743 – 1826)

The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don’t do anything about it.
Albert Einstein
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Dear,

Now that the people have sent a message for change that benefits the people. Lets look at what the people feel needs to be done, or not done.
1. Do not compromise
2. Stand tall on principle
3. Stop letting America turn into a socialist country
4. No more ear marks
5. Term limits for the House and Senate
6. Do not discount the Tea Party. It will become stronger and will not put up with the past shenanigans in government
7. Don’t go down the same road as the Republicans did under Gindrich
8. Run the Country like a business
9. Balance the budget
10. Reduce the national debt
11. Cut government spending by 30% or more
12. Cut taxes
13. Stop gutting the military
14. Put military rules of engagement in place that allow them to win
15. Secure and protect our borders
16. Enforce our immigration laws
17. Do not pass the Dream Act
18. Stop the out of control special interest spending
19. Stop sending money to Countries where it never gets to the people, only to their corrupt leaders
20. Stop stepping on the Constitution.
21. Legislate according to the Constitution
22. Eliminate unconstitutional government agencies
23. Repeal unconstitutional laws
24. De-fund Obama’s dozens of unconstitutional czars
25. Repeal Obamacare
26. Never approve another government run health care program
27. Be on the same health care plans as the people
28. Do not try to pass the Disclose Act again
29. Do not allow Cap & Trade to pass
30. Do not allow social engineering to occur through the Livable Communities Act (SB 1619)
31. Do not allow merging 401(k)s, IRAs, and other tax-advantaged private savings programs into the failed Social Security program
32. Be on the same retirement plans as the people
33. Stop the Federal Reserve from stimulating the economy into oblivion
34. Eliminate or at least audit the Federal Reserve
35. Require the President to prove his Constitutionally required eligibility to hold office (can’t believe he was even allow to run for office without doing this)
36. Resign from the most corrupt organization in the World, The United Nations
37. Do not allow the U.N. to remove firearms from Americans and leave them solely in the hands of a global military
38. Do not allow One World Governance

I am looking forward to progress in all the preceding! For the future of this country I hope you take this seriously and share it with others in Congress. I will be sharing this with your constituents, our elected officials and concerned citizens across the country. I would encourage you to do the same.

Respectfully,

meteorlady

We already have term limits – it’s called VOTING. If someone is elected and has not fear about being re-elected then they promote the agenda of whom ever financed their run. I hate the thought of term limits……

http://yahoo Cherokee

senator Rand Paul will be a (strong) elected senator in Washington.

Keep your eye on him for the next two years
Strawberry Shortcake

I believe an “End the Fed” movement needs to rise up across this country. The Fed is the source of so many of the problems. People, I’m telling you if we keep sitting idly by and just complaining about whats happening, they will continue to steam roll us into poverty and a completely broken dollar….which is the goal. We NEED more Libertarians like Ron and Rand Paul, Stossel etc etc in office. As long as the Fed exists, it won’t matter how many conservatives you put in DC if they don’t share the same belief. The government needs to begin fearing the people rather than the other way around. It is time.

Al Sieber

Strawberry, we need to educate the people first about the Fed. Reserve first, which is hard to do, as the saying goes, “you can lead a horse to water…” I’ve made a lot of DVD copies about the “Fed” and handed them out, the only way to reach people is one at a time, but, that isn’t fast enough, we’re out of time.

Teresa

U.S. dollar printing is huge risk -China c.bank adviser

Nov 4 (Reuters) – Unbridled printing of dollars is the biggest risk to the global economy, an adviser to the Chinese central bank said in comments published on Thursday, a day after the Federal Reserve unveiled a new round of monetary easing.

China must set up a firewall via currency policy and capital controls to cushion itself from external shocks, Xia Bin said in a commentary piece in the Financial News, a Chinese-language newspaper managed by the central bank.

“As long as the world exercises no restraint in issuing global currencies such as the dollar — and this is not easy — then the occurrence of another crisis is inevitable, as quite a few wise Westerners lament,” he said.

As an academic adviser on the central bank’s monetary policy committee, Xia does not have decision-making power but does provide input to the policy-making process.

The Federal Reserve launched a fresh effort on Wednesday to support the struggling U.S. economy, committing to buy $600 billion in government bonds despite concerns the programme could do more harm than good. [ID:nN03163902]

Xia said that it will take a long time for the global monetary system to improve and that China must be ready to hold the line on its currency policy and capital controls.

“We must keep a clear mind. We must not lead the world in financial regulation, nor simply follow the deeds of mature economies. We must think ‘what is good for us’,” he said.

China already has a regime of tight capital controls in place, limiting its vulnerability to the wave of liquidity that analysts say U.S. easing could push towards emerging markets.

By closely managing the yuan’s exchange rate, Beijing has also been able to blunt appreciation pressure in the face of a weakening dollar.

To better coordinate its policies, China should establish a team in charge of broad economic and financial supervision above its current network of financial regulators, Xia said.
David

Exactly, it’s like cashing out of the stock market when one knows it is going to drop. The dollar will continue to weaken (so that we may increase exports??) so why would one blame China to cash out or at least counter our fed’s move?
Strawberry Shortcake

Al I agree completely…and you are right we are out of time I just have an “it ain’t over till it’s over” complex. Lol
Al Sieber

Apparently Strawberry, the “Fat Lady” hasn’t sung. LOL
Dan az

Hey Al
thats what fox has been trying to do and has done a pretty good job at it.We need to take over the media from the progs and libbies so more people can get educated and start teaching our kids early in life that not all they are taught in the gov. schools is the truth.This site has opened up allot of minds and we need more of them to spread the word.Im not sure how I found this site but Im really glad that I did.Ive spread the word about this site to every one that I come into contact with and they spread it to all of their friends and family to.Its kinda like a pyramid its bound to reach millions if we can just keep at it.I know I will and I know you will and I know joe and dave and sc and kate and claire and all of the others here will be spreading the word So we may have a chance before its to late.
Al Sieber

Dan, I’ve been doing the same, sharing and e-mailing this site to a lot of people, so we’ve been doing our job.
Dan az

Hey Al did ya read what kate found its great they are falling apart by the seams.Obumer needs meds to cope and they are asking biden to start the impeachment proceedings.
http://naver samurai

You mean he’s doing cocaine again? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!
Al Sieber

Now why doesn’t that surprise me.

Santi

I wonder if these people in the fed have met the beast. Greenspan and bernanke belong to the builderburg group. These people want to do away with over half of the worlds population. I don’t think they will go down with ut a fight. Oh you think billgates will save us, he’s part of them as well. President Kennedy was killed by order of the Federal reserve, because he tried to get rid of it.
Frank

Can you all imagine the repercutions this would have across our nation and as far as joining into the WO, It would be like a kid saying, this is my ball and I’m not going to play anymore. The rest of the world would get mad and have to go find their own ball to kick around. As Donald Trump said yesterday on Fox, “Our enemies are laughing at us all over the world,” and that enemy is China, yet our leaders thus far could care less as long as they get rich and richer they are getting, without any restraint or anyone to watch over them. Though the hen house is controlled by the foxes, the chickens are beginning to outnumber the foxes, and it’s just a matter of time, before the chickens will be able to run the foxes out and take control of their own hen house. This is what Americans need to control and understand how our system works and why our American dollar will soon be worth O, as long as this kind of crap continues on without brakes.
I wonder how many Americans truly understand our monetary system and how deep the corruption truly is within the laws of our land to let this type of decieving and raping of our citizens and their worth not go unrecognized through our public forum? What good are jobs, when, in time, all Americans will be working for nothing for that is where the dollar is slowly dropping towards. Being worth nothing.

vicki

If the dollar does reach a value of 0 who would accept it in payment for work done? Supply/Demand affects EVERYTHING including wages. People will do as they did in the 80s. Demand and get more wages. I bet the unions have already started their strike plans.

David

They won’t be able to strike…..if we do not buy any of the crap they produce such as gov motors.

Dan az

Frank
As long as the printing presses keep churning out monopoly money we are up a creek with out a paddle.Its time to turn things around quickly before we reach O because thats when the world currency is going to change to one world currency.I say while their on that island we surround it and dont let them off like lepards that they are and only give them flouride water and hormone beef to live out their miserable lives.

Libertarian

Don’t forget we are still under martial law with the 1933 War Powers Act which can only be ended by Presidential proclamation. (12 USC, 95b, and Proclamation 2040). As long as the FED controls the president, they are safe.
Ray

When it was started the Fed Reserve was a good idea to stimulate the economy through monetary economics and at the same time get the USA away from fiscal stimulus. However the Fed has now become more of a fiscalist institution than monetary. They are playing with economics through the money supply and anyone with some understanding of Economics realizes that they are playing with fire. Does no one in the District of Corruption and the Government remember what happened to Japan when they played with the money supply via interest rates? Japan is still not completely out of their economic hole and it has been over a decade + now. Politicians are not much better at running the economy anywhere but into the ground. We need a very strong oversight Committee and Chairs that know about finance, economics and how to impliment policy on a steady gradual basis, not the force down the throat of our current Committee Chairs all the way up to the WHite House where without a teleprompter not even a simple speech can be delivered.
Norm

Most of the radicals who ran for the Senate were defeated. Rand Paul is the exception. Thank God he is only 1% of the group and will do nothing but take up space. Even Mitch didn’t support him.

Libertarian

Sorry, Norm, you don’t know squat. The “radicals” are the Communists we are trying to get rid of. They call themselves “Democrats”. In order for the tyrants to stay in power, all the challengers must be discredited. This is what is happening to Ron & Rand Paul, who are absolutely correct in their assessment of the FED.
Robert S

Norm Mitch is Obama with white skin.

New World Order

How do you know he is white?

Robin from Arcadia, IN

Norm… sour grapes?

JeffH

Robin, the dufus forgot to mention Palin…???? OOPS!

DaveH

You’re right, Norm, we got rid of most of the radicals. Now we have to wait until 2012 to get rid of the rest.

http://?? Joe H.

DaveH,
Come 2012 we will only have a few token dems in government!!! (THANK GOD!!)
http://naver sook young

I’m thinking the same thing. Thank you all for supporting me this last month. I see that I’m on the right side in this fight and it makes me feel good to be able to do something for this country. All the people I voted for won and I’m glad. Thank you.

Sook Young
Wife of the Samurai

New World Order

Rand and Ron, cease and decist immediately or you both will die in a mysterious manner in such a way where decades later, no one will really know the truth and circumstances of your death (see death of JFK, former US President).

We are the masters and controllers of the Earth and we will retreat to our fortified bunkers where we have enough supplies for a thousand years and nuke the entire planet if this ends up being the only way we can hold on to our power.

We are Gods in human flesh. Leading is our birth right. We don’t take kindly to folk who would deny us our birth right.

you both have a real nice day now.

Bitter Libertarian

LOL…I think your Overdosing on Viagra and the blood has left your shrivled brain.

New World Order

sorry, wrong answer. We have access to incredible technologies that we don’t let the slaves dare have. I myself am 15 inches, even when I used to be like 2 inches before I became a member of the NWO.
independant thinker

Go back to the wraslin ring.
http://?? Joe H.

NWO,
Oh height challenged, huh?? If I was as short as you I would have a Napoleon complex as well!!!
Angel Wannabe

BL, Can anyone say GLENN BECKS INFAMOSE LINE___ SPOOKY DUDE?

Al Sieber

Hey NWO, if you “Nuke” the entire planet, and kill everyone you have no control over anyone.

New World Order

We will have control over the vault dwellers with us (as certainly you understand it wouldn’t be just us underground – someone has to pamper us and provide for our every need afterall as we have never done any demeaning work on our own which is insulting for us God humans to take part in) and over anyone who would miracuolously survive on the surface. We should be able to easily control the surface dwellers as we will have functioning technology (helicopters, etc.) and the surface survivers might have dusty AR-15s at the absolute best.

Also, you do understand that through such initatives as agenda 21 and various eugenics operations such as mercury filled vaccines, airplane chem trail operations, etc., that our ultimate goal is to kill off 80-90% of the planet. We love mother Earth and all of her bounty but we will nuke the entire planet to acheive that population reduction if you force our hand…. We would rather destory the Earth then to ever have our power destroyed.
New World Order

Also, it should be pointed out that we funded that usueful raving lunatic, oh what was his name…. oh yes, Adolf Hitler, and never stopped funding him even as he gassed Jews. Many Jews at the time thought they would be imprisoned but didnt think they would be just killed as they thought the Nazis needed the slave labor. If we funded a lunatic to kill most of the Jews, why would you think we are incapable of vaportizing 80-90% of the human population in atomic holocaust?
JC

And then what happens? Lmao
you are a RIOT!

But this isn’t the place for Dungeons and Dragon stuff.
There’s other sites for that.
Al Sieber

NWO, it looks like you win the “Twinkie” of the week award, are you still in mommie’s basement? or Dad’s garage now?
http://?? Joe H.

Al,
Me thinks he found a way to wriggle out of his straight jacket and snuck into the nurses wing to get to the computer!!!
Al Sieber

Joe H., he’s probably in some mental clinic, and could be the head Doctor.
Dan az

Hey Al
I know who it is its flash on a acid trip!
Al Sieber

Dan, or “mushrooms”.
independant thinker

NWO is Flashinthepan huh, I knew he sounded familier.

Strawberry Shortcake

Do the junior high students have off school today??

New World Order

Nice insult. You are now on the red list and not just the yellow list….
New World Ordir

I am already on the purple list which as you know is the list of the ones implementing the “final solution II”. Email me so we can work together and get these peons.
coal miner

New World Order,

You mean nut list.When did you get out the cracker house?Trying to induce panic?You flunk.That happen by accident sixty-four years ago.Website http://www.mackwhite.com/tv.html
Al Sieber

NWO, I’ve been on the “Red List” for years, come and get me. you’re on my $hit list.
Al Sieber

NWO, I wasn’t trying to insult you, I meant it.
http://?? Joe H.

Al,
At 15 inches tall he’s probably cowering in the corner in fear now!!! Shame on you!!!
Dan az

Come on guys my eyes are watering and my sides are killing me!!!!!
Al Sieber

Dan,Joe H, if he’s 15″ tall he’s coyote bait, ok, I’ll knock it off.
http://?? Joe H.

Al,
Ok now MY sides are aching!!!! HAHAHEHEHEHEHOHOHOHO!!!

vicki

Cute. Well NWO if your birthright is to lead then lead. We will decide if we want to follow.

Tyrants dictate the path. Leaders follow the path. Which are you?

(P.S. I know that NWO is satire)
Claire

New World Order–You are one sadistic and mentally unbalanced person. You will find that the average American citizen will fight you all the way. Don’t count your chickens before they are hatched, because you are in for a rude awakening. I find your pitiful posts to be absolutely disgusting. Don’t count on taking me down the tubes, because I sure as heck will fight you all the way and if I go down I will take you right along with me. Go ahead, put me on your red list, your pathetic attempt to be “tough” is feeble. Take your idiocy and get lost. Permanently.

Angel Wannabe

Claire, This NWO is exercising his Sal Alinsky, Marxist technics__Intimidation, threats which I’m sure Bob Livingston was onto right away. With the technologies today, I’m surprised anyone tries this.
Vicki

Have you guys not heard of satire? The actual NWO (which is an oligarchy like object) would never make such statements in any forum.
Claire

Satire?? Perhaps. But there are always radical “nutjobs” in every “organization” such as the NWO. This person can very well be legit or one of the nutjobs. Either way, I have no use for them.
coal miner

Claire,

Don’t take World Disorder seriously.
We need a little diversion,I never laugh so hard,since the pigs ate my baby brother.He must be related to Cr474,they both live in the land beyond the forest.What ever happen to CR474?
Claire

coal miner— Gee, I don’t know what happened to CR747. He hasn’t been on this site for months. The NWO does aggravate me. It appears all administrations have been involved in the NWO in one way or another for many many years.

Tom SC

I thought the Constitution said only the Federal Govt. could control this Nations Financial matters including the printing of our money. As I understand it for some obviously poor reasom this power was somehow relegated to a newly formed PRIVATE Federal Reserve in 1913.Evidently this was the beginning of the corruption permeating throughout our Federal Government.

Bitter Libertarian

Exactly! This criminal cartel of bankers have had their hand in every enslaving, murdering, warmongering & media manipulation event since then….1913- WWI, depression, WWII, Korea, Bay of Pigs, Kennedy Assination, Vietnam, Gulf War, to now 2010. What exactly will it take for AMERICANS TO PUT ALL THE PIECES OF THE PUZZLE TOGETHER AND FIGURE IT OUT!?

Tazio2013

IMCO, the sheeple will only awaken after a catastrophic economic/financial collapse and/or “Black Swan”. And for knowledge on these distinct possibilities from persons far more intelligent than I, suggest you listen to the interview with Nassim Taleb and Benoit Mandelbrot:

http://fofoa.blogspot.com/2010/10/rip-benoit-mandelbrot-1924-2010.html
Dena

I’m not altogether sure its the bankers at the heart of this problem. Seems to me I read somewhere that European governments were delighted to discover during the middle ages (or somewhere thereabouts) that they could borrow money from “central bank” to fund their wars. There was no longer any reason to hold back on their quest for world empires. Of course the banks were complicit (and unconstitutional in the U.S.) but seems to me it was a tit for tat arrangement between the banksters and power hungry governments.
Fighting Grandma

Dena, they fund both sides of all the wars – that way they never lose.

Daniel from TN

One thing I agree with is an audit would be a complete waste of time. Phoney audits have probably already been prepared and scapegoats are already lined up. I wouldn’t be surprised if some people volunteered to be scapegoats; for a price. The only solution is to immediately end the Federal Reserve. If obama vetoes this idea, that’s fine. He’s just showing the American people more of his true agenda and hammering another nail in his re-election coffin.

GRIDLOCK OVER DEATHLOCK!!!

http://?? Joe H.

Daniel,
One real easy way to get around the problems with “volenteers is to try them for treason and put the death penalty on the table!! Works for me!!!

Fighting Grandma

Yep, that is exactly what we need…works for me, too!
LeRoyZ

Yahoo!! And if you’re trying people for treason, I’d like to throw in every single Dem in House that stood up and cheered when the guy from down south came up to our nation’s capital and attacked the Az. immigration law! That was the most appalling display I have ever seen!I’m not a violent man, but that was one time I think I could have done serious bodily harm to someone!!! On a lighter note, if anyone is reading this, I think I can give you a chuckle. Because of this incident in Congress, I have decided to re-register as a Democrat. The reason is as follows: I can’t guarantee that a Dem won’t win an election, but if I am registered in the Dem party, I can at least vote against the incumbent Dem and maybe help unseat him. I’ve gotten a lot of chuckles in my small town when I explain my reasoning to my friends, but I’m dead serious about it. I’ll never vote for a Dem again in an election, and will only vote to unseat an incumbent in the primary.

Tazio2013

And you’ll definitely want to read today’s Daily Bell:

http://www.thedailybell.com/1503/Bernankes-Squeeze.html
Cliff Janney

I am hopeful our new elected officials have the intestinal fortitude to fight and endure the hardships that we are going to face as a nation for the last hundred years of Government mismanagement. Yes, I believe the Federal Reserve is a good place to start, then we have to begin to deal with the Dept. of Education, Amtrak, Tennessee Valley Authority, Occupational Safety and Health Administration, Environmental Protection Agency, National Institute of Health, Federal Housing Administration, Federal student aid grants and loans, Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae, Food and Drug Administration, control and reduction of entitlements, Home Land Security, and other agencies that are not mandated by the Constitution.

As our new Florida Governor says, “Lets get to Work!”

Bitter Libertarian

Right on!
independant thinker

I would take exception to one item on your list that being Amtrak. As long as the feds subsidise air travel they must continue to subsidise Amtrak. When the full cost of air travel (airport security including TSA, airport infrastructure, air traffic control, etc.) is passed to the airlines them you can drop the Amtrak subsidies.
Richard Pawley

All believers who voted for new people to go to Washington need to pray for them. It is unlikely that they have any idea of the temptations they are going to be offered, beautiful women, handsome men, money, drugs, power, anything they want, to vote this way or that. Remember the senator who was offered $150 Million for her home state if she would vote for Obama/Pelosi-Reid Care? Of course, if these new people are caught in some compromising situation they can be blackmailed as others have been as it is a den of vipers that they are entering into in the hopes of changing the system. They need all the help from us we can possibly give, prayers, and even letters of encouragement. Those who wield power do not give it up easily.

J.M.R.

we thanks to bernanke we be feeling the pinch at the stores that we shop at

Al Sieber

J.M.R., yeah, real soon, the price of food is already going up.

Angel Wannabe

Prices going up here too AL.
http://?? Joe H.

Al Sieber,
Have you looked at the price of gas lately?? Real close to 3.00 a gal here!! I heard they had another refinery fire!! Why the hell don’t they let them build a few more so it doesn’t effect it so much if they have a problem at one?
Al Sieber

Joe H, where I live in Ariz. it’s $2.60 a gallon, a month or so it was $2.44 this is for regular. I just went to the grocery store and the price of food went up 10% in a month, thank god I have a garden. we eat deer and elk meat, or bison. don’t eat hamburger, or any store meat. too many chemicals, anti biotic’s, steroids, etc.
Al Sieber

Joe H, the EPA won’t let us build any more refineries without jumping through a lot of hoops, thank the Enviro-terrorists and tree hugger’s.
http://?? Joe H.

Al Sieber,
I know about the EPA (Extra Pain in the AZZ). And yes I was talking about regular gas as well. I haven’t noticed a big jump in the food prices here yet, but it’s probably coming! Heard theey’re saying this is gonna be a real hard winter as well. Just what we all need, higher heating, cooking, and hot water prices. guess I’ll just have to cut down to one shower a week whether I need it or not!!!
Dan az

Hey joe dont do it. It will just make it easier for them to locate you!
Hey al were getting 2.96 a gal. here and the markets are outrageous looks like hyper inflation time. Hows things going over there?
LeRoyZ

Wow!! I live in western N.Y., and I can’t even remember $2.60 per gal. It went to $2.99 per gal something like 3 or 4 weeks ago! Don’t mind me…this is nothing new. I see all the time people quoting prices that are way lower than ours.
Al Sieber

Dan, it’s between $2.60-$2.64 a gal.for regular in Bullhead City Ariz. the closest place to me, in Kingman Az. gas is .10-.15 cents more, but I buy off road diesel there for $2.33 a gal. for my backhoe, other wise diesel would be $3.00 a gal. or more. high inflation here is starting with the food. at least it cooled down here for the summer, and since it doesn’t get much below 40* at night in the winter, and the mid 60*’s in the day time, all I need is a few cords of fire wood for the winter.
http://?? Joe H.

Al,
went out today and it was 2.99 a gallon at the sohio, gastown and the circle k in town!!! First day with that dirty four letter word, too!!! SNOW! LIBERTY DIGEST, don’t ban me for that slip, please!!!
Dan az

Hey Joe looks like snow here in a couple of weeks too,Al thinks 40 is cold little does he know thats shorts weather here and possibly sun screen.lol
Al Sieber

Dan, anything below 60 is cold to me, I have to build a fire. you know how hot it gets here in the summer, 118*, 124* etc. my son lives near you, I know how cold it gets.
Dan az

hey Al
you better make your trip up here soon while the weather is nice.Ill keep a fire on for ya!
Al Sieber

Dan, as long as it’s at least 70 degrees.

Tazio2013

And for those of you who would like to know more about gold and god:

I have been asked, by a power much greater than myself, to direct Road to Roota subscribers to a series of articles I’ve written over the past year entitled Conversations With God about Gold & Silver. This is for you “Newbies” to get acquainted with and refresh you “Seasoned Road Warriors” on this series as Part III is now in the works!

Here’s the first two parts of the series:

Part I
http://www.roadtoroota.com/public/254.cfm

Part II
http://www.roadtoroota.com/public/255.cfm

I’m not sure when Part III will be finished but it will be released on the Public Road when it is ready.

All the best

Bix

vicki

I was amused by the articles and will read part 3 if I get a chance but I am sure that bix is conversing with some liberal and not God. The evidence is in part 2.

“God: Unfortunately, in the hands of most people a gun is more dangerous to themselves than it would be useful for personal protection.”

So obvious a part of the liberal brainwashing against gun ownership.
Now if God had said most liberals I might have been fooled. NOT

Richard Pawley

Vicki,
The books the writer of these two articles looks up to is a phony. Many people purport to talk with God but we have only one reliable test of that. God or a spirit speaking for God will never say anything which opposes what is written in the Bible. That is a test such a spirit must pass and the Bible itself says that such a spirit must be able to say “that Jesus Christ is Lord”. Since the lord of many is Satan those who are his slaves cannot say it. I’m not talking about people now, I’m talking about spirits. The Bible says to “test the spirits to see if they be of God” so it assumes that Christians will be in touch with non-physical beings. Now, a lot more is written in the Bible than even some who know it well suppose, but it takes understanding to see it. However, I once investigated these books, purporting to be “Conversations with God” and they were clearly NOT. Those who believe what is written in such books are clearly being deceived. In fact some of the information given in the books admired by the author of these two articles was identical with the information given by the high priest of Satan worship more than 35 years ago. God and Satan are not on the same side as you know.
The being accepting the accolade of “god” in these articles says: “Without understanding darkness you cannot understand the light. Without the knowledge of the bad you cannot understand the good.” That is clearly false and sounds suspiciously like what Satan said to Eve about eating the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, “so they would be like God.”
People who fool around with spiritual things had better know what they are doing. God is not against liberals or conservatives or anyone else. He is only opposed to evil, sin, eternal death, that which will destroy his creation (mainly us). While you do have a point about what was said about guns sounding like a liberal anti-gun web site, one thing I would like to point out about God is that He is not chatty. He does not make small talk. He says what needs to be said without embellishment and although He may say something more (I’m thinking of the Epilogue of my autobiography) it will not be trivial. If you want to read a book that is truly things that God has said, this time to a woman in England before most of us were born, it is the paperback classic, GOD CALLING, edited by A. J. Russell. It contains over 360 short, no more than a page and often just a paragraph, of things that are truth revealed. Many have found comfort and guidance in this book and I recommend it to all who truly seek God and want to ‘safely’ know more (I’m assuming that those who are seeking are already at least nominal Christians with some understanding of what the Bible teaches). The spirit in the articles offered by the writer in the previous comment does seem to offer information that is new, but in reality it is not new. God revealed well over a decade ago to one of his chosen that there would be rioting and food shortages here in the USA although in typical Biblical fashion the when was not revealed: http://www.worldchallenge.org/coverletter/an_urgent_message
As with the prophets of old the when is always a matter of faith and time. Faith that what was spoken was true and in time one will see it.
In 1989 another man of God who has the mantle of prophet but who seldom talks about financial affairs wrote about a coming world wide financial crisis that would affect all. It was his mention of such that got me interested in what was really going on because I know he speaks for God. I mention him in both my books, especially since he more recently has said what is becoming common knowledge, words to the effect that fiat currencies are going to fail in all countries (but this could take years as we lumber along – in truth I do not know). More important he mentions the shortage or scarcity of food in the future which I go into some detail about in a chapter on famine in my latest book. As it says in the Bible, “in the end times knowledge will increase” and it is certainly increasing but what we need is not more knowledge, but more wisdom. It is unlikely in a hundred years that any reading this will care about the then current economic situation (unless the knowledge of how to extend telomeres is fully understood). Are we headed for hard times, absolutely! Is it hopeless? Absolutely not! God is still in charge. What this world is going through, the fight between good and evil, other worlds have gone through, although most did not survive the discovery of the harnessing of the atom. There is so much to learn but as Jesus told the woman in England who complained so many years ago about how much there was to learn, that there was eternity to learn it all! Most have little awareness of these things but we are not alone. God does indeed love us and there is nothing we can do to make Him love us more than He does already. All we can do is draw closer to him and we will find that He will draw closer to us. Just beware of those who purport to be speaking for God. Few actually do so. In the meantime do not ignore those who are begging one and all to learn about non-perishable food and to begin stockpiling a few months worth of things that will not lose their nutrition over the years. Freeze dried is safest but you must have a source of water and usually heat to use them. Personally I try to avoid any foods from China. They have 24% of the world’s people but only 7% of the world’s farmland so how can they export food when they need to be importing it? Sorry, I prefer local if at all possible. God bless you.

Tazio2013

Anybody have an opinion on this:

From: “Bix Weir”
Date: November 4, 2010 12:13:51 PM CDT
Subject: The Fed Returns to Jekyll Island…REALLY!

I told you all it was about to get REALLY weird out there.

The Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta is holding a conference this weekend on JEKYLL ISLAND to celebrate the 100 year anniversary of the Banksters “evil plot” to take over the US monetary system!

http://www.frbatlanta.org/news/conferences/10jekyll_index.cfm

The Special Guest speakers include none other than Alan Greenspan and Ben Bernanke!

The timing of this meet could not have come at a more appropriate time as we may be DAYS away from the END of the Federal Reserve.

Here’s a few doozy’s that are floating around in my head:

- Do the Good Guys plan to take the Bad Guys down exactly 100 years after they hatched the plan to take over the monetary system?

- Will Greenspan FINALLY confess his involvement in the long term rigging of the gold price and the Implementation of a new Gold Standard

- Will they create a new monetary system for the United States at this meeting

…and HOW CAN I GET A TICKET TO THIS ONE!

Tick, tick, tick….

Are you READY for the BOOM?

Bix

Bitter Libertarian

Oh to be a fly on the wall with a recording device!
Ellen0

Alan Grayson???? Enough said.
JC

Anybody got a spare nuke lying around?
Kidding!

Al Sieber

JC, and a cruise missile, good one.

DaveH

It’s about time that people are waking up to the evil created by the Federal Reserve against the hard-earned cash savings of good Americans when they casually increase the money supply.
First Government (through the excess money creation of the Federal Reserve) robs the people of their own efforts to provide themselves a good life. Then Government offers themselves as the solution to restore that good life (of course with strings attached). We need to end the Federal Reserve. We need to end the Big Government enslavement of good hard-working citizens.
s c

People, it’s good that the word is spreading about the Fed. However, odds are that it’s too little too late. Any individual or group that controls a nation’s money supply has connections and resources that make organized crime green with envy.
We owe it to ourselves to do to the Fed what it has done to America for many years. At the same time, to expect it to fold its tent and disappear is beyond childish. When the Fed was created, it started with the knowledge that it already had absolute power in America. Anyone who thinks that power will be given up wilingly needs to buy my exclusive spa resort and hotel on Pluto.
Wake up, folks. Any competent criminal can cough up an audit report. If the Fed has to sacrifice somone to ‘placate the masses,’ you can be sure there is a list of Madoffs ready to be handed over on a silver platter.

Dan az

sc
So what would you suggest?

s c

Dan az, I have no battle plan. Our main problem is to FORCE our ‘leaders’ to honor and abide by the Constitution. Anyone who won’t comply ["friends" or 'others'] need to be pressured on a daily basis to leave Washington. If they want to be miserable every day, that can be arranged.
I know. It’s a tall order. The alternative is to do nothing, be silent and let the bastards take over the nation without firing a shot (the way the Fed came to power).
In particular, the pretenders in the White House need to be singled out and treated like the pimped-out sleazoids they are. NOW is the time to alert the nation and remind everyone DAILY of all the insanity that “America HAS INHERITED FROM THIS CRIMININAL ADMINISTRATION.” Sound familiar? In this case, it’s the TRUTH.
Our borders are open through presidential incompetence and congressional neglect. Neither the prez nor the AG have any plans to protect America. Job security is the religion of those who should have been tossed out but managed to get re-elected.
It’s a long list, and I don’t pretend to have all the answers. The silent war starts NOW. We have too much to lose by letting ‘friends’ treat us as though we’re the enemy. Sift, sort, test and let the chips fall where they may.
Dan az

Knock it off joe
Al Sieber

Dan, you’ll have all the bastards in one place at the same time, what would you suggest?
Dan az

Hey Al
come on you know what I would do thats not going down on print.But you know it will work!
Al Sieber

Dan, I agree with you, all the big shots of the Fed Reserve in one room, we the people can have them arrested for high treason.
http://?? Joe H.

Al,
I’m positive that’s exactly what Dan az meant!!! Fer sure!!!
Al Sieber

Joe H, I don’t think it will happen but it would be nice, the military would have to do it.

FreedomFighter

We are many they are few, yet powerfull they be, we the American people are more so.

Laus Deo
Semper Fi

Dan az

FreedomFighter
100% correct!
BrotherPatriot

^^ True that ^^

WE, the American people will win this fight. The NWO is going to fail.

Yol Bolsun.

Dan az

these are the people that we need in office I ould like to see Napolitano run for holders seat and charge him with impeachment along with his boy obumer and pelousy an reid.If we can stop the the feds.then we can stop the NWO

FreedomFighter

Ending the Fed will do more for national security than nukes at this point, we need nukes for MAD, we need the Fed for what?

Can anyone even justify the existence of the Fed, somehow I doubt it.

Laus Deo
Semper Fi

Robert Bradfield

Hi it is that South African again. One of the most prominent news articles in this country is that the Fed is going to print $500 billion in the next year and at least $3 trillion to try and get your country out of the recession.

I see several long term problems with this, if it is done.

1) inflation, inflation ….. inflation (a la Zimbabwe);
2) a declining value of the US$ (a la the German Mark after the 1st world war);
3) increasing hardship for your countrymen;
4) production cost rocketing to the stratosphere;
5) the future generations paying for the excesses of government spending today; and
6) should I dare say: “the new world order gaining an increasing foothold in the world”.

I hope I am wrong but all indications are that unless rationality sets in quickly, this seems to be the end result, even with the Republicans taking over in your Congress and/or Senate.
JC

Robert, you’ve identified things pretty well. A good many of us are perfectly aware of this too. What we need is more people to understand that the “so called – Federal Reserve” is not Federal and has no Reserves. It just prints money up out of thin air….so it doesn’t create wealth it creates debt. And wondering if stimulus will or won’t solve the problems of our economy…is an insane thing to wonder in the first place because stimulus money out of thin air IS the problem.

There is a deliberate agenda to tank the American currency and America better wake up to it damned quick!
JC

For those that don’t know about the Conservative / Liberal history … Here is a condensed version:

Humans originally existed as members of small bands of nomadic hunters/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer and would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in the winter.

The two most important events in all of history were the invention of beer and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the beer. These were the foundation of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups:

1 . Liberals
2. Conservatives.

Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were invented yet, so while our early humans were sittingaround waiting for them to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery. That’s how villages were formed.

Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to BBQ at nightwhile they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as the Conservative movement…

Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly BBQ’s and doing the sewing, fetching, and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the Liberal movement.

Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. They became known as girlie-men. Some note worthy liberal achievements include the domestication of cats, the invention of group therapy, group hugs, and the concept of Democratic voting to decide how to divide the meat and beer that conservatives provided.

Over the years conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth, the elephant. Liberals are symbolized by the jackass for obvious reasons.

Modern liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but most prefer white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare.. Another interesting evolutionary side note: most of their women have higher testosterone levels than their men. Most social workers, � personal injury attorneys, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are liberals. Liberals invented the designated hitter rule because it wasn’t fair to make the pitcher also bat.
Conservatives drink domestic beer, mostly Bud or Miller. They eat red meat and still provide for their women. Conservatives are big game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks,construction workers, firemen, medical doctors, police officers, engineers, corporate executives, athletes, members of the military, airline pilots and generally anyone who works productively.

Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives who want to work for a living.

Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to govern the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America .. They crept in after the Wild West was tamed and created a business of trying to get more for nothing.

Here ends today’s lesson in world history:

It should be noted that a Liberal may have a momentary urge to

angrily respond to the above before forwarding it.

A Conservative will simply laugh and be so convinced of the absolute truth of this history that it will be forwarded immediately to other true believers and to more liberals just to piss them off.

And there you have it. Let your next action reveal your true self…..I’m going to have another beer.
Michael J.

JC,
Nice!
JC

November 6, 2010

Dear Friend of Liberty,

Last Wednesday, the Federal Reserve announced it was going to buy another $600 billion of government bonds.

Dubbed “Quantitative Easing 2” (QE2), Fed leaders hope this move to pump money into the economy will lower interest rates (which are already near zero). Instead, it’s more of the same type of interference that led to the housing bubble and this current crisis.

Printing more money out of thin air is not the solution, and this move has been criticized throughout the world. Even Paul Volcker, who was Fed chairman under Presidents Carter and Reagan, has said QE2 “probably won’t do much” to help our economy recover.

The criticisms come as only part of a backlash that has been building since the Ron Paul presidential campaign and C4L’s founding. With our Audit the Fed movement leading the way, more Americans are becoming skeptical of the nation’s central bank and aren’t as willing to accept the usual story from Washington.

During our fight to Audit the Fed this Congress, many of the legislators who cosponsored H.R. 1207 when it was “safe” to do so turned their backs on transparency when a thorough audit was on the line. We created a Hall of Shame to list these representatives – many of whom won’t be returning in the new Congress. On Tuesday, 24 of them were denied reelection.

As if there couldn’t be any more attention put on the Fed, Congressman Ron Paul is next in line to become the chairman of the House Subcommittee on Domestic Monetary Policy and Technology, the committee that provides regular oversight of the Fed. Stay tuned to CampaignForLiberty.com as we report the latest developments on this front.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amUtCmpwf6A

The Federal Reserve is being forced to play defense like never before, and now is no time to back down. Grab a copy of End the Fed and keep spreading the sound money message! Its ultimate impact depends on each one of us.

In Liberty,
John Tate
Granny Mae

JC,

That was a good laugh ! Thanks ! PS your a nut !
BrotherPatriot

LoL…JC…I needed that!
Denniso

Dan az has gone over the edge totally, and JC is nothing but a twit w/ nothing productive to say. Such geniuses they are…

refuse2lose

Unfortunately it will take more than two people to force congress to allow an audit of the most criminal enterprise in our country. I would even go so far as to say that a congress full of conservatives would do the same thing liberals did earlier…. they don’t want us to know what the FR does or has done. There would be a revolution if we ever found out.

Robin from Arcadia, IN

If we contact our elected officials, and stay on them, they will get the point. Yes, the corruption is sure to be deep, but the newly elected will not be a part of what comes down. The Fair Tax needs to be enacted. If you don’t know about it or don’t understand it, google it. It makes so darn much sense!
Anthony

What is fair about having to pay 25% tax on everything you buy??? How about “NO” tax. Yes get rid of the miss applied income tax an replace it with nothing! We did not have a income tax until 1913 when the (Federal Reserve starting robbing Americans) so why do we need it now?
Fighting Grandma

Exactly Anthony! The US Government gets plenty of money through taxes. Cigaretts, gas, oil leases, etc. and they have their hands in every bill you pay. Once the USG is under Constitutional control, they will have more than enough money to pay bills. We need no Fair Tax of any kind. The IRS was just devised to take the money away from the American people. This money goes directly to the private, INTERNATIONAL, banking cartel called the Federal Reserve. They take our money, don’t tell us what they do with it, charge interest to the countries they lend our money to, and THEY keep it all. Yes, if the American people really knew this, there would most definitely be a revolution before morning!
jeronimo

The end the Fed movement is about to become irrelevant. With Russia and China buying their oil in
a currency other than the dollar the u.s. economy is toast.

NO TAX on anything makes all the sense in the world. The Wall street banksters should pay ALL the tax.
Everything that they have is STOLEN therefore they have no right to anything.

Collectively we have to KNOW that invading foreign countrys cannot go on, look at the poor soldiers coming home broken and disillusioned…. the banksters must pay and the armament corporations have to go.

Lets do it!
meteorlady

There is NO SUCH THING AS A FAIR TAX. please…………..

Oldtimer (M Williams)

If we audited and then abolished the Fed, wouldn’t we also be abolishing HALF the nations debt? I, for one, never signed any I.O.U.
to the international banks that ARE the Federal Reserve. That might save the middle class, scheduled to be destroyed by hyper-inflation in order to pay off the nation’s debt @ a penny on the dollar.
BrotherPatriot

Let’s hope so, Dan…America needs to shed the chains of bondage that the Fed represents. They have had us on the ground w/their boots on our throats for almost 100 years now. WE must END them.

God Bless & so happy overall with how the votes went. We lost some…but WON soooo much more.

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