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California DREAM Act Vetoed By Schwarzenegger

October 5, 2010 by  

California DREAM Act vetoed by Schwarzenneger California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger has vetoed a bill that would have provided $38 million in benefits to help children of illegal immigrants attend state colleges and universities, according to a state employee.

A worker in the office of Assembly member Felipe Fuentes, the legislator who authored the California DREAM Act, confirmed that Schwarzenegger rejected the bill on Sept. 30, a day before the bill would have officially become law. If the governor had signed the legislation or took no action, the DREAM Act would have expanded financial aid opportunities for minors who are not U.S. citizens. 

The governor's decision came after the state Senate and Assembly approved the measure. Those moves drew criticism from Dan Stein, president of the Federation for American Immigration Reform.

"The California legislature continues to demonstrate its contempt for law-abiding, taxpaying Californians," Stein said. "As they put the final touches on a budget that cuts vital services and programs, illegal aliens get new rewards."

On Sept. 22, the United States Senate rejected a national DREAM Act amendment to the National Defense Act, which would have allowed certain illegal immigrant students to receive citizenship if they met conditional criteria. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) recently announced plans to include the DREAM Act in legislation for the 2011 fiscal year. 

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  • Howard Roark

    Actually if all benefits were cut off to illegals, and the hiring illegal laws were strictly inforced the ILLEGALS would leave on their own, and we the people would not have to pay one cent for deportation.

    • 45caliber

      True. The only reason the illegals can afford to work for less than an American is because they also get all the “free” aid from our government. They are even told how to do it before they come here by their OWN government!

  • http://gmail i41

    The best and easist way to cure this problem is put a bounty on illegals, and that means all illegals. We use bounty hunters on bail jumpers, awol members and several other crimminals. these illegals are crimminals, plane and simple. When the feely meely wimp liberals, use the heart strings songs for legalization of letting them pay $2000 dollars to get in. No way, raise it to $24,000 or a health care costs by the illegals that cost the tax payers for welfare and benefits. I have seen cost as high as $68,000 per illegal per year. Or tell Mrexico to send so many barrels of oil to cover the costs of the mexican illegals, samre for the pedophile goat ranglers to the moddle east smucks. Put a $10,000 bounty, $5,000 for bounty hunter, and $5,000 for the treasury.

    • Tony

      Sounds like a great plan to me.

    • Mick

      i41 says:
      The best and easist way to cure this problem is put a bounty on illegals

      &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
      i41,,,Your Bounty idea would be a hell of a good start and we also have to untie the hands of the border patrol and let them do their job by any means necessary.
      These so called human rights organization are actually infringing on the law abiding citizens’s rights and putting all of us in danger….

  • Mick

    Portion of this Durbin letter…..

    If we are serious about reform, we also must adopt a realistic approach to the millions of undocumented immigrants who live and work in our country. Mass deportation of illegal immigrants is impractical and too expensive. Experts estimate that deporting all of the undocumented immigrants would cost more than $280 billion, seven times DHS’s budget last year. Instead, we need to offer immigrants who work hard and demonstrate a long-term commitment to be law-abiding, contributing members of our country a chance to pay fines and earn their way to permanent legal status over the course of many years. Some have falsely called this amnesty. I oppose amnesty because it is not right to reward those who have broken the law with automatic citizenship. This proposal will not give amnesty to illegal immigrants******************
    *********************************** How can this moron say it would cost 280 billion dollars to deport illegals….
    He can take his experts and shove it, his comments are just an excuse to keep the illegals here in our country,,
    Load them up and move’em out and make sure to put some of our troops at the border with the order to shoot on sight for anyone trying to cross back in this country.
    Politician ( Especially DEMOCRATS ) have a way of throwing BIG dollar numbers out to solve unpopular issues knowing full well that the public will object to the big spending and decide to side with their sick agenda to leave things just the way they are.

    • Jake

      I say whatever it cost to get rid of them is a great deal!!!!!! Remember, 12 million illegals will breed into 80 million in two generations. Think we have problems now?

  • SD

    It was mentioned that some of the illegals are small children that came here through no fault of their own and we should at least help them. NOT on my dime. Unfortunately these children come with family and you can’t help them without also helping the rest of the family. NOT on my dime thank you. I worked two and three jobs and so did my husband to put our kids through school and we never asked for a handout. No HUD housing. No food stamps, No free medical, nothing. We worked and sweat and struggled and we have four very successful children to show for it. And those successful children now fully grown and in their 40s are helping us in our old age. There is no reason in this world for any legal citizen of the US to pay to support, assist, house, give medical services, or schooling to an illegal from any country. People complain that it would cost billions to deport all of them. Well, yes, it probably would, but we would only have to do it once instead of the daily payments we are paying now to keep them here. Also, the crime committed by them against us is unbelievable. Check the stats at all the local, state and federal prisons in this country and you will be astonished at the amount of illegals that are incarcerated. And all of their costs are on our Dime. We are paying for their housing, free medical, free tv, phones, computers, law libraries, exercise rooms, and all the programs that they are affording prisoners nowadays. When are we going to quit beating our heads against the brick wall and start throwing them back across the brick wall? Enough is enough, lets stand up and scream and holler, fight back at the polls this November. Throw out the bums in politics that want to give them money and privileges. I’m sick of it.

    • 45caliber

      SD:

      I agree. And the reason the number of crimes is so high by them is that they believe (rightly) that they won’t get much time in jail if they are caught. Six months is the normal average for jailtime for an illegal for anything short of murder – and even then in some cases.

  • Bob L

    What,in the name of reason, are illegal aliens, who by the very fact of being in the country are committing a crime against a sovereign nation, still doing here,costing American citizens billions of dollars, some even having the audacity to illegally vote,isn’t it time and past time for them to be deported? California is virtually bankrupt and the “sanctuary cities” show no sign of giving it all up for a terribly bad idea. This is intelligent?

    • 45caliber

      But Bob… Oblama says that we OWE it to the world to take these people in and give them everything. The fact that we worked for the money and they didn’t doesn’t mean that we still don’t OWE them.

      Personally, I’m not bright enough to arrive at that conclusion but he says he’s smarter than all of us anyway so I guess we should believe him … right?

  • Richie

    Thank you for the “correct” vote in vetoing the Amnesty Bill
    to pay for illegals to attend colleges on taxpayer money. Hey,
    everybody, remember that the USA and the State of California are “BROKE”!!!!!!!

  • Howard Roark

    Turban Durban says that in the first phase of his plan that all ILLEGALS would have to pass a criminal background check.

    None of tha ILLEGALS would be able to pass a CRIMINAL background check as they are all here ILLEGALLY and as such are all CRIMINALS.

    The Libs will say ,”well they (the ILLEGALS) would be excused this one criminal act.”

    The Libs have constantly told us that RULE OF LAW must be inforced. that means all law. the Libs can not pick and chose as we are a NATION OF LAWS.

    NO AMNESTY. I DO NOT CARE HOW IT IS DISQUISED TO APPEAR OTHERWISE.

    also strip Citizenship from the anchor babies and deport them with all of the freeloaders they have brought into the country.

    The US Supreme Court has ruled that the 14th Amendment does not apply to the children of ILLEGAL ALIENS born in the United States. (see below)

    Slaughterhouse Cases, 83 U.S. 36 (1872) (USSC+)
    Opinions
    MILLER, J., Opinion of the Court

    All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

    The first observation we have to make on this clause is that it puts at rest both the questions which we stated to have been the subject of differences of opinion. It declares that persons may be citizens of the United States without regard to their citizenship of a particular State, and it overturns the Dred Scott decision by making all persons born within the United States and subject to its jurisdiction citizens of the United States. That its main purpose was to establish the citizenship of the negro can admit of no doubt. The phrase, “subject to its jurisdiction” was intended to exclude from its operation children of ministers, consuls, and citizens or subjects of foreign States born within the United States.

    • BrotherPatriot

      “NO AMNESTY. I DO NOT CARE HOW IT IS DISQUISED TO APPEAR OTHERWISE.

      also strip Citizenship from the anchor babies and deport them with all of the freeloaders they have brought into the country.”

      ^^ Here Here…!!! ^^

      Indeed…well said! The idea of an illegal running across the border, ploppin out their kid and that makes the child a American? What kind of insanity is that? Seriously…wtf!

      Enforce our immigration laws! Just as Robin Williams says…Give them 3 months to get their business in order and go back on their own. After that…if found here illegally, we deport them immediately…no questions needed. Send all 20+Million back & watch how our economy responds and the rate of crime drop!~

      God Bless!

      • 45caliber

        There is a place in San Diego where women are known to wait across the border until labor starts and then come to our side. The city began putting up a fence to stop that. The feds stopped them from putting up the fence and now require them to have up to three ambulances there waiting instead. The reason? The poor women might have birth problems that might harm themselves or the baby! And this from people who believe abortion is okay.

      • BrotherPatriot

        Seriously…WTF…people. *sigh*

        We simply can’t let this kind of mentality continue!

        Enough of the anchor baby idea…its utterly rediculous…an illegal comes over the line, has a baby & it’s an American??? Completely silly. The baby is as illegal as the mother…Period!

        That law has to be changed! It’s part of the Agenda to destroy the soverignity of America…to dilute us into the North American Union.

        Bleh!

      • 45caliber

        The idea is bad enough but what really chaps me is the government belief and statement that this new “American” deserves to have his entire family here – on welfare, no less – to “take care of him”.

      • Kate8

        BrotherPatriot, Yes, and to change the demographics enough so that the socialist democrats never lose power.

  • http://att.net jld

    We rounded them up in the past and departed millions and we can do it again, so lets start now. The public should contact Ice and local police and harass them untill they take action. I see these illegal aliens living up to 5 families to a house or apartments, why is the allowed to happen? We citizens need to get pro-active and protest these officials and these cities and force them to take action in rounding up all illegals and departing them.

    • 45caliber

      I agree. We have to start somewhere.

  • Klaus

    Debra Lopez, what is this with you?
    You not only accept breaking the law to come into this country, but you accept breaking the law when in this country.One should check your status…..

  • FreedomFighter

    Another fine example of:

    Marxist/Socialist/Communist Progressive left-wingers destroying America one piece at a time.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

  • BB

    I do have some sympathy for people that were brought here as very small children and had no choice about it. There should be some process to expedite them becoming citizens. But they should not get extra benefits that other citizens do not get either.

    But now let us turn to the bigger problem:

    Any hungry lawyers out there looking for glory?

    Pursuing the following idea would even be socially useful, not like those lawyers you read about suing companies for having an expired patent number printed on their products.

    Improving the U.S. education system, while a laudable goal, does NOT fix this problem. There are a million or more un-or-under employed engineers and IT people that are already very well educated.

    A better fix would be for someone to initiate a class-action lawsuit challenging the constitutionality of the H1B visa under the 13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution (the amendment that freed the slaves).

    An H1B employee is “out of status” if they are laid off, and is required to leave the country immediately. There is no statutory “grace period”.

    This gives an employer the power to threaten an employee with IMMEDIATE DEPORTATION. The employer is not, of course, directly ordering the deportation, they are merely making the employee subject to immediate deportation by the U.S. government.

    In United States v. Kozminski, 487 U.S. 931 ( 198 ), the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that the Thirteenth Amendment circumscribed involuntary servitude to be limited to those situations when the master subjects the servant to:

    1. threatened or actual physical force,
    2. threatened or actual state-imposed legal coercion or
    3. fraud or deceit where the servant is a minor, an immigrant or mentally incompetent.

    The federal anti-slavery statutes were updated in the Trafficking Victims Protection Act of 2000, P.L. 106-386, which expanded the federal statutes’ coverage to cases in which victims are enslaved through psychological, as well as physical, coercion.

    Being put “out of status”, subject to immediate deportation, is a form of “threatened or actual state-imposed LEGAL COERCION”.

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  • Michael LaMonda

    Gov. Schwarzenegger did exactly what a fiscally prudent legislator should do. No one is guaranteeing my 10 year old grandson a free or subsidized college education why should California or the USA do that for illegal immigrants? The Federal and State governments must enforce immigration laws and not continue to ignore them! Starting with the White House, the Senate and Congress they must start treating illegal immigrants the same way that illegal immigrants are treated in all of the other countries of the world. WE need to start enforcing the immigation laws that we have on the books now and if they are not strong enough then we must pass and enforce stronger ones to protect our great country and not give it away to illegal immigrants!

    • 45caliber

      Exactly.

      A local man took his son (graduating from high school) to a college as a visit. They checked on costs – and learned that it was far beyond what the man could pay. When they inquired about financial aid, he made too much to get any of it. The person talking to them stated that she had also graduated from the school. When asked how she paid, she said, “Oh, my father abandoned us when I was sixteen. The government paid for my schooling here.”

  • http://beliefnet.com/debrincon Debra Rincon Lopez

    I say they need to help these Illegal Immigrants any way that they can. Otherwise let them alone when they are forced to sell drugs to get by? I don’t condone selling drugs but when your pushed to the limits, then that’s what happens!

    • Trudy

      Debra,
      Get with the program. How about if the government takes half your hard earned dollars and gives it to the illegals for college? My kids are still paying back college loans and it hurts them financially. Give the money to our kids not illegals. Shame on you. The illegals can GO HOME THEY ARE HERE BREAKING OUR LAW. Selling drugs come on Debra.
      Trudy

    • Tony

      Debra, are you insane? How about you turning over everything that you have to an illegal family. That should make you feel wonderful. Then again you probably would prefer that someone else take responsibility for supporting you and all illegals. Better yet, just leave my country!

      • Doc Sarvis

        You posted “leave my country”. Didn’t she say above that she is a Native American?

      • Vigilant

        “Doc,”

        What is your point? He didn’t say “your country.” Could just as well have said “our country.”

      • Vigilant

        You might be enlightened by the story “The Man Without a Country,” by Edward Everett Hale.

        When someone, citizen or not, disparages the very freedoms that allow them to live and work in the greatest country in history, or actively undermines those freedoms by encouraging criminal behavior, then it’s not untoward to enjoin them to leave.

    • William

      spoken just like an IDIOT debra. go back to mexico,

    • spike

      Lazy people resort to selling drugs, Debra. Lazy people whine about having thousands of acres of land and not farming it, or raising animals on it. They drink because they live in the land of “what might have been” get out of the gutter mind set, pull yourself up by your bootstraps, and DO SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE. There is NO EXCUSE FOR SELLING DRUGS. NONE.

    • Steve Dolyniuk

      Debra: Wake up!! You sound like an Illegal, yourself. Help them, so they won’t sell drugs?? They shouldn’t be here in the first place. Go pick up a dictionary & look up the meaning of ILLEGAL.

    • Lou Poulin

      You are one stupid person. Get a life. And get educated. You don’t know what you are talking about. It is jerks like you with the attitude of raising your Mexican flag above ours, and burning ours or writing on our flag. Go protest in your own country, better yet go back to it and see how many freebies you get.

    • http://naver samurai

      We are a nation of laws and do not reward law breakers. OK Debra, is it fair for the average working American to have to work the first six months of the year to pay for welfare programs and handouts to foreign nationals? These are not authorized under our Constitution. You say that we should help them out. I can help them board the plane bound for parts unknown. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • Gary

    I don’t know what took so long to make the decision.
    California is BROKE!! The federal government will follow unless we take the nation back form these morons in office.
    The eptome of stupity would be to allow the federal government to continue on this track. If the U.S. doesn’t change course we as a nation are doomed. It makes me sick to see the greatest nation in the world being ruined by these bastards.

  • Mark

    Arnold finally got his senses back. Bet he is waiting on a call from pelosi and hussein obama. I just do not understand just what it is about the word “illegal” that they don’t understand. Illegal means wrong. Illegal means a trip to jail, but in this case illegal should mean a trip home, where they belong. California is a financial wreck and these stupid illegals and their supporters are agast at this decision? Stupid fools. The legal mexcans stand up out of their lazyboys crying and whining because they are afraid that squirtin out babies for welfare money is next. What a profession where you just sit on your butt, screw, and eat. They sure as heck don’t parent all them little rude and rampant varmints. It is time for californians and mexicans with pride to stand up to this tyranny and send the illegals home.

  • Warrior

    Hey, where does one acquire one of those government debit cards that is accepted at casinos? I need a vacation.

  • Klaus

    I am an immigrant myself. I came to this country in 1956 from Austria. I need to add at this time I came here legally and proper.
    I have served in the military here and I had to learn the language.
    There was no dial 1 for English and we never even thought about demonstrating in any way for something we did not earn or deserve.
    We did everything we could to blend in and were ever so proud to be one of thwe people in this ever so great country. We loved and still love this country beyond imagination. To see all that transpirs here now is like a slap in our face.I never expected anything without having to work for it.I for one also believe we should protect our borders and prosecute anybody here without documentation and legal status to be in this country. For all the people complaining and demanding special tratment I have just one thing to say…..LOVE it or LEAVE it.

    • Mark

      Bless your heart Klaus. It can be done right by people with pride. Those that just want it free have no pride and no respect for themselves. They should all starve to death if they want it free.

    • William

      Klaus I applaud you. I spent over 20 years in the military and servd with many men who were earning their citisenship. mexican german and men from other countries. I never met one whom I didn’t like, one of my best friends was from cheoslavakia and I have never met a finer person,

    • spike

      My great grandfather came here from England, and they WOULDN’T LET HIM SERVE in the armed forces, he had to SERVE IN THE CANADIAN army!! And he came here legally, and paid his taxes!!

    • Lou Poulin

      You are a well deserving immigrant and we welcome you and your comments in this crucial subject, but it is the illegals that need to go back where they come from. They scoop up our natural resources and destroy our economy and demand things they dare not demand in their own country for fear of reprisal and/or jail. We are a free country and only because of our fightng servicemen and women.

  • Bill Dion

    Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger did the right thing, We the legal people in the US of A don’t get free rides from the Govern. to go back to college, so why should illegals get a free ride on our money. I am having a hard time keeping my house and I work ful time as a machinist in a small city in NH, and these ilegals are getting a free ride!!!! Something wrong with this picture. Great Rightful Job Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger.

    • FedupinNC

      I agree with you Bill D. they get so many “free rides” already that I don’t agree with and now they want illegal immigrant students to receive citizenship AND 38 MILLION OF OUR DOLLARS?!? What part of ILLEGAL don’t these politicians get? I agree with Alan Trent… closing the border MUST be a priority!! WAY TO GO ARNOLD!!

      • William

        fedup these damned politicians dont understand a damned thing about illegal. most of them should be in prison for the actions they have taken, but there are so many IDIOTS who go to the polls and reelect them over and over,

      • Doc Sarvis

        The least expensive and most effective way to stop illegal immigration is for American employers to stop hiring them.

      • 45caliber

        It is even cheaper if the government required citizenship to draw all the “free” stuff.

    • http://beliefnet.com/debrincon Debra Rincon Lopez

      I believe that it’s your fault for not going to College. NOT Illegal Immigrants. I doubt if that was really going to be for Illegal Immigrant’s in the first place. I would say there is something wrong with this picture. I Doubt if the Govt would ever help anyone,especially Illegal Immigrants, HOW ABOUT HELPING NATIVE AMERICANS. WE DESERVE ALL THE HELP WE CAN GET, especiallyw when they took all of our stuff from us? It’s time to give some of it BACK NOW!!!

      • spike

        There you go, another “minority” bitching about what is “owed” to them. Guess what, my own family inter married with Indians, and made a life. Get out there, stop worrying about what was “taken” from you, 200 plus years ago, and work. These freaking illegals stand in walmart, with “Access” cards, and food stamp cards, and don’t and probably CAN’T speak english. Then we wonder why the U.S. is broke.
        Give me a break. I didn’t own slaves, I don’t owe black people anything, either. If they all like Africa so much, and want to be ‘AFRICAN’ Americans, then they, and their ancestors should have/and should go back there, and straighten out THAT mess. Sudan, Darfur, just to start with the tip of the iceberg. I AM TIRED OF ‘OWING’ people who I never did anything to, and don’t have anything against. I am just an ‘AMERICAN’ and I just want to work and make a living. not see a government check in the mail, or in my bank account, JUST EARN A LIVING WITHOUT THE GOVERNMENT STEALING AND SQUANDERING IT ALL.

      • http://davevanm1@aol.com dave v

        Thank you Spike!

      • 45caliber

        I agree, spike.

      • Lou Poulin

        Your getting it back. Look in your back yard on the reservations,for all the casinos that you are getting rich on and most of the money to casinos help build you new homes, provides annuities to each legal Indian. Yes you are the original Americans, and we did supplement all Indian families with a stimulant income paid by taxpayers since treaties were signed in the late 1800′s, prior to the Casinos being built, but your still getting the stimulas payments including payment from Casino owners. Billions are being earned by the Casinos (Look at the sizes of the hotels and casinos costing millions), Foxwood in Connecticut, and many more in New Mexico) and each state gets about 10 to 16% in compacts drawn up by State Legislatures used for education and roads. Why are you squarking now. If you don’t know this then thats why your not visiting New Mexico, Texas, California and Florida. You need free education, then go to the reservation and apply for it through your district or Indian Council to get it. Do you see the black getting anything better from Slavery days to the Present? hey don’t own Casinos and most are poverty level with large families. Welfare is their only resourse if they have no work or it’s the Military life they have to enter to get a food ,bed, small income and a roof over their head, and the threat of getting killed in a war we have no business in. I am white, been there and did it.

      • Mace Windu

        It’s time to cut the politically correct terminalogy crap! Until those in Washington D.C. call these people for whom & what they really & truly are…”criminal border crossers”, they will not take any of this seriously. They ARE NOT guest workers, illegal aliens, U.S. citizens, undocumented whatevers…YOU COME CROSS ANY BORDER IN THE WORLD, AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS (Cuba will shoot you down, North Korea will torpedo your vessel, some places in the world, you’ll never be hear from again). These ARE criminals, period! Criminals MUST be deported immediately (meaning NO BEDS, NO HOUSING, NO ENTITLEMENTS at the taxpayers expense) & the bill for the cost of their return MUST be placed upon the criminal border crossers country of origin. If that country will not pay, continue to cut their aid or place high tariffs, embargos on anything they want to export to the U.S.
        Anyone in this country who employs anyone who does not legally belong here will get a mandatory jail term not less than 25 years hard labor without the chance for an appeal for the first offense! With this in place alone, this crap WILL stop.
        Get rid of the law that says a woman can have a baby here then that kid can be the “anchor” for the rest of its’ family.
        Take away what it is they come here illegally for…education, jobs, healthcare, etc…all at the U.S. American taxpayers expense! I think the Governor of California has taken one small step towards the giant leap of saying enough is enough.
        This is just the beginning of what is necessary to take back this country from the “progressives”. And until we as voting Americans get serious about firing all of the “clown” politicians (the Durbins’, the Pelosis’, the Reids’, the Obamas’, the Rangels’, the Clintons’ and the list goes on & on) while hiring the politicians who are serious about putting a dead stop to all this nonsense, we can only expect bills like the proposed California one & worse on the Federal level.
        More power to states like Arizona who are doing what the Federal Government should be doing…protecting it’s taxpaying U.S. American citizens.

      • 45caliber

        Debra:

        You say the Indians should “get it all back”.

        As a quarter Indian myself, I would say that should mean that the Indians should immediately get some large forested area (some national forest perhaps) but MUST find and make their living there without ANY help from the rest of us. They must live in tents or huts they make themselves, hunt and fish for all their food, must make clothing from what they find along with their bows and arrows. If at any time they try to use some modern appliance or get outside help, they revert to being Americans again and live like the rest of us – without the “get everything back” argument.

      • http://naver samurai

        You’re not entitled to anything in this world that you don’t earn. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • dman

    hes an alien himself SMH..

  • Robert

    you are an idiot cant you see from your ivory tower that millions of americans are out of work cant you put two and two together and realize that millions of illegals are staling the jobs that should go to americans you cant be that stupid can you if you are not an American you have to leave your amnesty plan is as stupid as you 9000 americans are killed every year by your good friends the ileagle invader 550women are raped every day by you good friends I know you live a privileged live above the rest of us but my daughter or mother lives down here with the plain folk how dare you cater to someone in this country illegally you need to go come November to come down from the castle

  • U.S Has Resources To Remove All Illegal Immigrants

    “Estimated Price Tag To Remove All Illegals Immigrants From The U.S Completely Is Less Than The Failed Stimulus Bill”
    August, 2010

    Mr. X
    U.S.A

    Dear Mr. X
    Thank you for contacting me about immigration reform. I appreciate hearing from you.

    Our nation faces a host of problems as a result of years of inattention to our immigration policies. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) estimates that about 11 million people in the United States lack legal status, including those who enter the country illegally and those who overstay temporary visas.

    Illegal immigration raises national security and economic issues that must be addressed. I have worked to reform our immigration system comprehensively. A number of Senators, including myself, recently released a blueprint outlining the basic principles a comprehensive reform measure should include.

    The blueprint would improve border security by increasing manpower and deploying new technology. Many people have asked for reforms that would secure our borders before putting the immigrants who are already here on a path to legal status. In response to that concern, a “trigger” was included in the 2007 immigration bill and is preserved in the 2010 blueprint. The plan would require that certain border security and enforcement benchmarks be met before any program is started that would address the status of illegal immigrants already here.

    Congress has taken many steps in recent years to step up security at our borders. The 2009 American Recovery and Reinvestment Act provided $100 million for inspection systems to be deployed at border ports of entry, $100 million for border security technology on the Southwest border, and $420 million for modernization and construction of facilities used to control and process border crossings. The Fiscal Year 2010 Homeland Security Appropriations Act provided $8.1 billion for the Customs and Border Protection (CBP) agency. This amount includes $19 million to hire an additional 100 Border Patrol agents. The bill also provided $800 million for border security fencing, infrastructure, and technology. Immigration and Customs Enforcement was allocated $5.3 billion to support investigation activities and detention and removal operations. The bill funds 33,400 detention beds and requires that at least $2.5 billion be used in the detention and removal of unauthorized persons. The bill provides $1.5 billion to identify and remove those with criminal records illegally residing in the United States.

    The new immigration blueprint also calls for strengthened enforcement against employers who hire illegal immigrants, an essential element of comprehensive reform. The federal government must crack down on employers who ignore our nation’s laws and hire illegal immigrants. The reform proposal calls for a biometric employment verification system and increased penalties for hiring illegal immigrants.

    If we are serious about reform, we also must adopt a realistic approach to the millions of undocumented immigrants who live and work in our country. Mass deportation of illegal immigrants is impractical and too expensive. Experts estimate that deporting all of the undocumented immigrants would cost more than $280 billion, seven times DHS’s budget last year. Instead, we need to offer immigrants who work hard and demonstrate a long-term commitment to be law-abiding, contributing members of our country a chance to pay fines and earn their way to permanent legal status over the course of many years. Some have falsely called this amnesty. I oppose amnesty because it is not right to reward those who have broken the law with automatic citizenship. This proposal will not give amnesty to illegal immigrants.

    The blueprint calls for a two-phase system of legalization. The first phase would require all undocumented individuals to register with the government, pass criminal background checks, and pay fees in order to be granted lawful prospective immigrant status. The second phase would occur eight years later, after the current visa backlog has been processed. At that stage, undocumented aliens would be able to earn their way to permanent legal status only if they pass updated criminal background checks; possess basic citizenship skills; demonstrate basic English language skills; pay all federal taxes, fees, and penalties; and register for the Selective Service.

    If we do not give people who are already a part of our communities the chance to earn legal status, we will not solve the problem of illegal immigration. Those living here illegally will stay in the shadows instead of coming forward to register. This hurts our national security and hurts American workers, who are being undercut by cheap illegal labor.

    I am deeply concerned about the impact of potential temporary guest worker programs. In contrast to those immigrants who are already here and actively engaged in our workforce, guest worker programs would bring in a large future flow of workers with no long-term commitment to our country. I voted to eliminate the guest worker program in the previous Senate immigration bill. When that effort was unsuccessful, I offered a Hire Americans First amendment to require employers to seek American workers for their open positions before they try to bring in guest workers. I have also introduced legislation designed to protect American workers by addressing major abuses in the H-1B visa program.

    There is no perfect solution to the problems we face as a result of our broken immigration system. Today, our borders are not secure, our workplace enforcement laws need reform, and our immigration policy fosters a shadow economy for millions of immigrants who simply want to demonstrate that they can be hardworking contributors to the greatness of our country. I will continue to work for a package of reforms that will protect American workers and that will be tough, enforceable, economically sensible, and morally defensible. I will keep your views in mind as the debate continues.

    Sincerely,
    Richard J. Durbin
    United States Senator
    RJD/ab

    Pass It On!!!

    • Robert

      we dont need comprehensive immigration reform you are a scam artist we dont need any more laws we have plenty we need them enforced deport every ileagle invader put everyone that hires them in jail put every landlord who rents to them in jail you are as full of it as the republicans are they will never seal the border the people that put them in office and spend tons of dollars on them would not let that happen just watch and see November is coming the big buisenss will never do with out the slave like labor that the illegals provide

      • spike

        Let me tell you allsomething: Listen up, Robert, too–
        I don’t know where you all get the idea that these people work for “slave” or “slavelike” wages. THEY DON’T. GET THAT? THEY DON’T. I work in the tree industry. And I know many, many Tree services and Landscape companies that hire these guys from Mexico and Guatamala. These guys are working for anywhere from l0 to 25.00 per hour, ALMOST ALWAYS UNDER THE TABLE. They live in sometimes one apartment, with like l0 or so people. They send all or most of the money “home”. They don’t spend alot of their money in our country. They admit that they send it home to bank accounts they have there. However, I will tell you, the reason why these tree services hire these guys is they can’t get Americans to work half as hard. Americans are getting, and have grown lazy. Most of these guys won’t drink during working hours, the American thinks nothing of going out to lunch and drinking his weight in beer–even smoking pot. However, the illegals go out and get all sauced up on EVERY WEEKEND, AND HALF THE TIME, they are driving illegally, and get locked up. Most of the time, they get let out, and are back to work within a week. They all take off for the “rallies” for Hispanics in the cities like Philly., etc. Don’t you dare tell me they come over here and work for slave wages. That’s crap. They Demand the payscale. and they do it, because so many of these big tree companies, the NATIONAL ONES like Asplundh DEPEND ON THESE PEOPLE AND PAY THEM FAR BETTER THAN most Americans are making. These guys also go back “to their country” for the winter, most of them. The ones who can afford it. They get married to Puerto Rican, or Cuban women, have a baby or ll, on “uncle” for free, and, bingo, married to a “citizen” and anchor baby besides. There are so many ways to work this equation, just mix it up anyway you want….JUST DON’T TELL ME THEY WORK FOR SLAVE WAGES, BECAUSE THEY DON’T! If you want the names of some of the services I know that have these guys working for them, I’d be happy to give you some, “senator”.

      • JeffH

        spike, you’re right on, the wages they get are as good as anybody elses.

      • Kate8

        JeffH, Yep. Plus, the illegals get lots of free stuff – healthcare, education for their kids, social services, and all the money they can rake in from stolen IDs and SS#.

        Heck, there are even illegals here who have their own businesses. And I’m sure they don’t have licenses and all the hoops legitimate business have.

        They generally have slightly lower rates, but then, they have little overhead.

      • JeffH

        Kate8, when I had to finally move in 2008, I went to Home Depot to p/u a couple of day laborers to help me. I offered them $10.00/hr cash but they wouldn’t work for anything less than $15/hr cash.

      • 45caliber

        spike:

        You did miss a couple of things. First, their favorite “home” here is a vacant house. They simply break in and then move in. Many times there are over twenty in the same place. The real estate people, most times, don’t even bother to lock the place on the argument that if they do lock it, the illegals will do even more damage. While there they trash up the place and damage it so the owner can seldom get more than 1/2 the market price. If you (via the police) make them leave they come back and really tear it up.

        Further, they buy two sets of ID papers. And there is a big demand for such. They work under one set and draw welfare under the other. Every six months they change papers. This allows them to file two income tax returns, both showing they were on welfare for six months. As a result, they get all their tax back plus. Their government is very careful to educate them on how to do this.

      • Christin

        Wow, what a scam.

    • alan trent

      closing the border has to be a priority. legalizing illegals only encourages lawbreakers. anyone that does not understand that is an idiot. god bless america

    • landaddy001

      I’m sorry senator Durbin, the plan you have outlined leaves out a number of things. Your plan does not address identity theft, having the law breaker held legally responsible to make full restitution for all damages caused by using someone else’s SSN. Your plan does not address unpaid state taxes. Your plan does not address punishing the people who broke the immigration laws with the penalties prescribed under the same laws (something all legal residents face). The American people were promised by the congress of the United States of America, immigration enforcement in 1986 and it did not happen as promised. Congress did not affectively enforce the immigration laws from then to now, why should we the people believe congress now? Senator your plan does not address a lot of things but mostly it appears to permit an unfair act (breaking US immigration Laws) to be rewarded. That’s not right, and in my opinion it is not the American way.

      • William

        no landaddy its not the American way. but it is the low life politicians way. buy more votes dickie boy,

    • s c

      Senator Dickie, I F the US has the resources to ’round up’ illegals, then W H Y isn’t it happening?
      YOU are trolling for votes on this website, and I DO NOT LIKE IT. Take a hike, you miserable pretender.
      You sound like you want to distance yourself from Herr Obummer. Maybe you need to distance yourself from America, too. It’s not as though you can’t be replaced by someone who actually CARES about America. Take your undeserved retirement, and move to a country where you’re needed.
      You complain too little too late, and you will NEVER be anything better than an errand boy for the puppet masters you serve.

      • William

        well said s c.

    • Steve Dolyniuk

      Sen. Durbin: Let me get this straight. You want to let the Illegals in this country pay a fine, & stay in the USA, & start paying taxes, & this is NOT an AMNESTY?? If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, & walks like a duck, it is more then likely a duck. Now if an Illegal, pays a fine, works & pays taxes & remains in the USA, just what in hell is it, if it isn’t an AMNESTY ???

    • spike

      Mr. Durbin,
      That sounds alright on paper, but it makes no earthly commonsense.
      GET THIS!!! WE ARE TIRED and broke of our government reaching into our pockets and giving foodstamps and cash assistance to Illegal immigrants who refuse to speak English, or pay taxes and have their babies in our hospitals for free. I’m not buying your junk, and now that I have your name, I will make sure anyone I know in your jurisdiction VOTES AGAINST YOU.

    • keeper

      The American People for years have paid taxes to keep our country free and safe, We have counted on you people to do your job, you chose not to instead You chose to sneak in the progressive crap behind our backs. Its purely evil doings on all of you.. All of you have chosen your path and we are aware of it now.. You people have allowed our country to be sucked dry by illegals living off us like parasites while you turn your backs and pad your pockets. You have sucked for the last time from hard the working Americans People. We that fought for this country, died for this country.. We DEMAND our RIGHTS and will not take anything less, Do you hear me????? We are only in this crises because of people like you political game playing thugs,Not the American People….
      What is it you don’t understand about the laws here and illegals here. We Americans are fed up with your compliance to our laws.. We have to be accountable for what we do Why not you??? We want you to do your job to deport them and there children to there country where they belong.. That is there punishment for breaking the laws here, It is there responsibility to explain and teach to there children that breaking the laws in United State has consequences and this is one of them being deported. It teaches them to do things the right way and laws are for a reason in other countries.. If I was to drop a baby in some other country do you think that child would have rights to live there or me for that matter.. Do you think I could live there like they live here, It seems like they have the freedom and freebee here and the hell with us. If laws are applied to us then laws must be applied to all… I demand our laws be enforced if they did not come here the right way..

    • Joseph C. Moore, Cpo USN Ret.

      Senator Durban, We emphatically do NOT need immigration reform. The laws are already there. Enforce them and lets the states alone.

    • Mace Windu

      It’s time to cut the politically correct terminalogy crap! Until those in Washington D.C. call these people for whom & what they really & truly are…”criminal border crossers”, they will not take any of this seriously. They ARE NOT guest workers, illegal aliens, U.S. citizens, undocumented whatevers…YOU COME CROSS ANY BORDER IN THE WORLD, AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS (Cuba will shoot you down, North Korea will torpedo your vessel, some places in the world, you’ll never be hear from again). These ARE criminals, period! Criminals MUST be deported immediately (meaning NO BEDS, NO HOUSING, NO ENTITLEMENTS at the taxpayers expense) & the bill for the cost of their return MUST be placed upon the criminal border crossers country of origin. If that country will not pay, continue to cut their aid or place high tariffs, embargos on anything they want to export to the U.S.
      Anyone in this country who employs anyone who does not legally belong here will get a mandatory jail term not less than 25 years hard labor without the chance for an appeal for the first offense! With this in place alone, this crap WILL stop.
      Get rid of the law that says a woman can have a baby here then that kid can be the “anchor” for the rest of its’ family.
      Take away what it is they come here illegally for…education, jobs, healthcare, etc…all at the U.S. American taxpayers expense! I think the Governor of California has taken one small step towards the giant leap of saying enough is enough.
      This is just the beginning of what is necessary to take back this country from the “progressives”. And until we as voting Americans get serious about firing all of the “clown” politicians (the Durbins’, the Pelosis’, the Reids’, the Obamas’, the Rangels’, the Clintons’ and the list goes on & on) while hiring the politicians who are serious about putting a dead stop to all this nonsense, we can only expect bills like the proposed California one & worse on the Federal level.
      More power to states like Arizona who are doing what the Federal Government should be doing…protecting it’s taxpaying U.S. American citizens.

    • Vigilant

      Dick Durbin has ALWAYS been up there with other statists like Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi. I would not believe a thing he says.

  • JeffH

    Arnie just lost the coin flip…that pretty much speaks for his mehod of decision making in California. Bet he doesn’t get any from the ole lady for awhile either.

  • Jana

    I am shocked. Arnold Schwarzenegger finally did something right.
    This would have helped children of illegals go to colleges and universities.
    AS this piece says, “The California legislature continues to demonstrate its contempt for law-abiding, taxpaying Californians,” Stein said. “As they put the final touches on a budget that cuts vital services and programs, illegal aliens get new rewards.”
    Stein is right. They are broke, our country is broke. What part of this do they NOT understand.
    Each state needs to trim their spending and so does the US Gov.’t.
    When money gets tight at home, we start eliminating things from our expenditures. When will the elected officials learn this lesson?

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      Jana… My niece and her husband are both teachers in California. They are being paid with vouchers. I agree with you. When are they going to get it? We have no money to take care of our own let alone those who are here breaking our laws. I had to cash in an insurance policy to help my son with tuition. We didn’t get any hand outs! The insanity of spending has got to stop. California is bankrupt, but they even had the stones to draft such a bill. What’s wrong with this picture?

    • keeper

      Jana, You said it in a nut shell.. we cut back on spending when times are tough but they keep spending no matter what. Well they have all the money they need. They want ours as well, So when we stop spending they raise prices on things we need to survive just daily like Gas, Water, Food, electricity, Heating and Cooling Energy, Taxing, etc. to make us pay for not spending as we would if people were working. So they keep nudging and pushing until all you possess is now there’s too. When we have nothing left we now need to turn for help and that would be the big spenders, Our Government..
      Come Nov2, we need to stand up for each other. God knows, We are all in it together, We need to get all the old lifers on both sides out of here and Please Watch for the devil in sheep’s clothing here because there will be many that will appear saying what we want to here but have plans to do the opposite. Check them out good, If they have a record of any evil thing toward any human life even destructive words spoken to destroy someone with a lie, We don’t need now.. And never mind its just politics, There is no reason to run a dirty race. That tells me there is something foul in the pot..
      Put on your Wisdom Hats and Teeth, lets clean house Nov 2. and keep it going right up to the courts. May God Bless Us All.

      • William

        keeper if you will pay attention to the news the democrats have all ready started saying the things the people want to hear. they do this around every election year. and there are so many STUPID asses who beleive it and go to the polls and vote for the sleazballs,

      • Barbara

        The late Frank Church senator from Idaho would do this. His campaign sound good and conservative. But after the election he was full blown free spending communist.
        His first campaign was “I would rather be red than dead”. This was in 1953, if I remember correctly.

      • Vigilant

        And later he proceeded to cut the heart out of the CIA when he headed that famous committee.

      • 45caliber

        keeper:

        To us, a dirty race is telling lies and so on. To a politician, a dirty race is someone telling the TRUTH about them. A lie is easy to refute but the truth isn’t.

  • s c

    On the surface, Arnie sems to have done something right (how rare). Probably, he’s trying to act like a ‘Republican’/RINO or a conservative, so in the event that ‘Dems’ need another false competitor in a major election, he can claim that he’s “qualified” and has acted like a ‘Republican’/RINO or a conservative at least once.
    Could it be that Arnie doesn’t know that Specter and McCain have tried that crap before? Wake up, Arnie.
    Arnie, go back to Hollywood, and make movies. We have all the pretenders we need (assuming that we need any).

    • keeper

      Right on S.C.

      • Bob

        Arnie can’t make movies anymore because the steroids wore off and turned to cellulite.

    • alpha-lemming

      I certainly wish I know what happened to him. Immigrating from an SSR bloc country, citing on numerous occasions the “similarities between the left and the Soviets” he talked a great game and layed out a plan for the state that was decidedly conservative. Then of course, the famous battles with the Legislature and poll numbers trumped convictions. Working theory… Do you suppose a steady diet of endive and arugula pesto morphed all the testosterone into estrogen??

      • Kate8

        alpha – Arnie came into Sacramento with guns blazing, ready to clean house. He couldn’t get cooperation from the state’s liberal Legislature so he took his plan to the people.

        Of course, the big corporate money came out in huge opposition to him. They blitzed the TV and radio with scare ads. He didn’t have as much money to blitz back, so the sheeple bought the corporate propaganda and failed to support him.

        When that happened, he just threw up his hands. The people who turned out en masse to vote for him pulled the rug out from under him when he tried to do what they elected him to do! It was very disappointing.

        He just caved to the left after that. The wind had gone out of his sails.

      • marvin

        arnies wife is a liberal dumbocrat

  • dan az

    On Sept. 22, the United States Senate rejected a national DREAM Act amendment
    Schwarzenegger rejected the bill on Sept. 30
    you have to give him credit he at least waited.
    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) recently announced plans to include the DREAM Act in legislation for the 2011 fiscal year.
    Not if he’s not in office good luck on that one!

    • Melba Dagan

      When American citizens are having trouble sending their own children to college, why on earth would anyone think we should be paying to educate the children of illegals? This is supposed to be the land of opportunity, not the land of the big handout. Why don’t they come here legally, pay taxes and then pay for their own kids education? Quite frankly, it’s about time the California governor started putting a stop to the downward spiral that is wrecking their state. I’m sick of these bleeding hearts who think we owe the world a free ride because we have worked hard and made something of our country.

      • FedupinNC

        AMEN MELBA!! AMEN!

      • Craig

        Arnold has been trying to stop the spiral. Problem is the legislature is filled with dem/socialist loons.

      • Lou Poulin

        Its about time California Legislatures got the head out of (You Know Where). Hourahhhh for Arnold.

      • Christin

        It’s about time Arnold started acting like a Republican, even if at the eleventh hour.

        GET REAL Dream Act 2010: Follow the Constitution of the United States of America. Any elected or appointed offical not doing so in the course of business for We The People, will be fired and lose pension and health care benefits for life and face imprisonment and /or fine(s).

      • Kate8

        Christin, Before you give Arnie too many kudos for this veto (this bill WILL be back before the veto hits the wastebasket), he just signed a bill pushed by the GLBTQ ramming more of their agenda down the throats of our schoolchildren without the consent, or even awareness, of the parents.

        This was in spite of a HUGE outcry by the public. He supports the entire agenda by the sexual-diversity crowd, including ‘gay-marriage’ (a contradiction in terms), against the expressed will of the people.

        Arnie hasn’t displayed much backbone. He’s rally a liberal in every way except, perhaps, fiscally.

      • tlludwig

        Jail? No I’m all for the death penalty. These people are traitors to their country. They deserve the very best – death.

      • Christin

        kate8,
        I’m not giving Arnold any kudos, just more or less a sarcastic comment that it is about time he “acted” or “played the part” of a Republican, even though he waited until the last minute… sheepishly waiting to see what Congress would do first.

        We all know about your “Prop 8″ and how the liberal-gay activist Judge unconstitutionally over-turned The People’s Vote and Voice.

        Now, with your comments, we all know Arnold supports it all.

        The CA Gay Agenda is sickening and their three penguin indoctrination book is banned from being taught in TX schools… for now.

        Best of Luck to you.

      • Christin

        tlludwig,

        Yes, traitors do get sentenced to death.

        Do you happen to play the drums?

      • terry l

        arnold, arnold, arnold!!! i was wondering about you, for right now all i can say is a big THANK YOU!!!! maybe those idiots in wash. d.c. will start figuring things out too, nah they’re not smart enough. hopefully the next crew will be a little more american loving, with a LARGE PAIR!!!!!!!!

      • Trudy

        Thanks Melba you said what I was thinking. It is high time we stop giving our hard earned money to illegals. Thank you.
        Trudy

      • William

        Melba as long as there is a democrat in office they are gonna try to give everything to the mexicans and other illegals so they can go on buying votes. they want to cut out my social security that I paid into all of my working life but they want to give more and more to the dead beats and those too damned sorry to work,

      • Lou Poulin

        I am voti8ng them out. Everyone should do likewise. Democrats are a big joke and the reason why our economyis suffering. Out with the incumbents and in with the new.

      • Bill From N.C.

        We need to take a page from President Eisenhower in 1954,Load all illegals up in buses,and ship their ass across the border.

      • Lou Poulin

        AMEN. Mexicans back where they belong. Arizona did it now California has to do it, along with Texas and Florida.

      • Andrea

        There are undocumented students with better grammar than most of you :)

      • Jake

        Bingo! It’s about time!!! Good job, Arnold!!!!!

      • barbm

        it was called operation wetback believe it or not!! look it up on wikipedia. he did it quickly too.

      • Angel

        Start with Arnie!

      • kenneth

        Another Amen. What has happened to this country. When I was a kid one of seven we all worked and we didn’t take any government assistance except once when my Dad was laid off from Boeing in the early 70′s. Many people got the axe. Some were there for 30 years. My Dad had been there for 18 years. We also farmed a little, raised a garden, and raiser our own meat to eat. As kids we had to get up a 6 am to do chores before we went to school. I worked summers to make money for the farmers in the area: hoeing melons, moving arrigation pipe morning and afternoons, put up bales of hay and straw. It was all hot hard work. Why can’t that happen today? Why all the free hand outs. I am tired of working hard and seeing it go to people who don’t even like America or don’t like it enough to assimilate to our countries long running norms and morals. I don’t mine helping those who are helping themselves and are citizens of a America. Not illegal aliens. Stop this b/s. There is no free ride in this country and there should have never have been, even if you are Obama’s auntie. It was the free ride loan scam that the libs start as Rebuilding America that put the housing market to hell right along with the financial industry. Haven’t we learned anything yet. We are a Christian nation but we aren’t stupid are we? Even God expected everyone to take care of their own personal responsibility. That didn’t just mean their own souls. Take care of the poor. Those are the ones who can’t do anymore then they can and are still hit with bad circumstances not those looking for a free hand out while sitting on their A$$e$ like Obama’s Auntie. If was the other way around nothing would get done and we all would be looking for someone else to do the work. That isn’t what America is all about.

      • Christin

        kenneth,
        Right on.

        History from 1608 :

        “John Smith became president of Jamestown. Some of the men, however, were still lazy and not willing to work. Both Captain Smith and the other men who did work were tired of providing food for those who would not work. Captain Smith made a wise new rule that came from the Bible (2 Thessalonians 3 : 10)-

        ‘He who will not work shall not eat!’

        Then Captain Smith made sure the rule was never broken. Some of the men grumbled. They became hungry, but Captain Smith gave them no food. They soon decided that they must work if they wanted to eat. From then on, things went much better for Jamestown.”

        Simple enough, right?

        *Quote from: Our American Heritage : People in U.S. History (4th Edition), A Beka Book History Series Judy Hull Moore.

        This was my sons’ history book when they were in third grade (2008 & 2009).

        Blessed is the nation whose God is Lord. -Psalm 33:12

        Do you see how important the Word of God is?

        So all you who do not acknowledge God or are wrongfully quoting Separation of Church and State are making it almost impossible for Good Leaders to lead and stay in government and extremely difficult for our country to be a blessed nation and have the hand of protection from God on US.

        kenneth, I think answers your question, “What happened to our country”, don’t you?

      • Brenda

        With California in the financial pit they are already in, they shouldn’t be looking for more ways to give away money. Especially not on people who are breaking the law.

      • MRMO

        IL. IS ALMOST IN AS BAD A SHAPE AS CA. TO BAD ARE GOV. IS NOT AS SMART AS ARNIE, OUR GUY DID SIGN THE DREAM ACT FOR IL. I WISH THE STATE WOULD PAY FOR MY KIDS TO GO TO SCHOOL AND ALL THE BENNEYS THAT GO WITH IT. BUT WERE AMERICANS, I GUESS WE DON’T COUNT !!!

      • Kate8

        Wanna know the attitude shared by millions of illegals?

        This will make your blood boil.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBzjLnO-e3o&feature=player_embedded

      • Emmaanuel

        Just wanted to say Most illigals do not think that the U.S. has a obligation to help us and if you think about it we pay taxes on ciggarrets and beer witch never gets claimed

      • Carole

        Are you serious? You are hee illegally and you’re complaining about not seeing the taxes on beer and cigarettes? You get the money to pay for them illegally, you don’t pay taxes on that money.

      • Kate8

        Wow, Emmaanuel. That makes me feel soooooo much better about it all.

        You wanna buy stuff, use our roads and take advantage of our (idiotic) system, ya gotta pay something somewhere for being here illegally.

        What, you want it all totally for free?

      • barbm

        if illegals were really coming here for a better way of life, they’d get jobs instead of having baby after baby so they can get more welfare, food stamps, etc..

      • tlludwig

        Emmaanuel, you may pay taxes on everyday things just like all law-abiding citizens do but your meager input is not enough to cover the output of services provided. Just look at the statistics for proof. A good example is the burden on hospitals – which are privately owned. You state the you don’t expect anything for free but your actions say otherwise.

      • marvin

        Emmaanuel you woud make a great american in mexico ,,all dead beats like you that need be arrested jailed then deported

      • Christin

        Emmanuel,
        I have been to your country vacationing many years ago and loved the beautiful mountains, saguerro cactus forests, mini grand canyon and the Town Square at Christmas in Satillo.

        If you, your fmily and your friends have come here through the back door… illegally… and you all have done so (maybe to be with family and/or get money through a job), but originally to have “Freedoms” and “Rights” that were denied to you in your dictator/Policia type government of Mexico, then why do you guys vote Democrat???

        The Democrats in America are now taken over by the Socialists and Communists and they actually want to bring about the same type of government here that you left behind in Mexico. A tyrannical dictatorship to dictate or tell you when you can do this and how you are do that… yes, running and controlling everything in your life… from how many hours you will work and for what pay, and what you can eat, what TV you can listen to, and how much your electric bill will be. That doesn’t sound like the America of Freedoms and Rights you and your people are seeking.

        And Emmanuel, you are cheating the hard working American citizens out of their hard earned income/money, by taking from them in all the free programs you get and not paying taxes and putting into the system.

        This is what has us so angry, that you enjoy a life as an FREE American, but WE pay for it.

      • Christin

        Emmanuel,
        That is if you are even a real poster.
        I wouldn’t put it passed one of you crazy characters on this sight to pretend to post as an illegal whose name is misspelled!

        Buenos dias, amigo.

      • Kate8

        Christin, You said what I was thinking.

        BTW, If he is really an illegal, he’d better not be voting–at least, not here.

      • rwnut

        Emmaanuel…Soaring welfare costs,drug trafficking,murder’s,increasing gang activity,kidnappings,sexual assaults,crime,home invasions,extremely overcrowded schools,hospitals closing,skyrocketing medical costs,Americans losing jobs,prisons overflowing with Mexicans,forced bilingualism,property damage,enviromental damage,infrastructure damage,over $40,ooo,ooo dollars annually being sent out of America to Mexico by illegas.Just to name a few things.All caused by the illegal invasion of America.You’re not taxed enough to pay for all that damage,my freend! Try again,but remember this.”No MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY,YOU CAN’T BAPTIZE CATS”!

      • http://FaceBook Doobie3424

        Kudo’s to Melba. My thoughts exactly.

      • Keath

        Because the Goverment Dosen’t care about the American people or thier needs only about staying in office where they can vote thier own pay raises,tell me how in the hell did we every stand by and allowed that.
        After we allowed them to vote for thier on pay raises they just figured the American people or so stupid they can do anything.
        Also first the gunsw and now the gold. Did you know that now the gov. wants to know where you gold is? Why? So that when they get ready to completley take over they can come conficate your guns so you can’t stop them from confacating your gold and the rest of your rights.Wake Up Ametrica!

      • Harold

        Melba, I think I love you, good statement!

      • guyb

        Well said Melba….. The truth is the truth and America needs to stand up for our country….

      • 45caliber

        Melba:

        The kids of the Americans are going to college to become businessmen or engineers or scientists. And most comes from middle class Conservative (not GOP) families. The liberal/progressive college professors are doing what they can to retrain them but early education is usually the one that sticks in the long run.

        What the government is trying to do is to change that so the graduates will be from poor Democrat liberal/progressive families. Then THEY will rule corporate America and the Dems hope they can get the utopia they want here.

      • Christin

        45, Makes a lot of sense.

        Also a way to redistribute our wealth.

      • 45caliber

        It’s okay to be rich if you are a Democrat. Just not if you won’t vote for them. After all, they have to get their donations from someone. I even saw one the other day defending Soros.

      • Christin

        45,
        A Demo was defending soros publicly?
        Wow, the cockroaches truly are coming out of their dark hiding places.

        This is a strange time we are living in.

      • Leslie

        Hi dear Melba even when you think that is not fair to give a piece of paper that would allow all those hard working student to become part of this society and contribute to the country the same way that many citizen students have done it . I can tell you that most of them have work full time in types of jobs that many of us wouldn’t take and still have the energy to go to school and get an education because they want to be part of the only place that they know as home. Taking the chance to study and get a degree, even when they know how hard the way is going to be, but they still do it, I think that is a very brave decision to take. Most of them have gone so far with their education without getting any help from the government. The only think that they have is their hard work. So why don’t give them a chance to be one of us. They are like any of us so why treat them the same way.

      • lt lew52

        Please tell me of Any other country that allows people who’ve arrived illegally to knowingly stay and settle in.

      • Danis

        Netherlands

      • Danis

        People please educate yourselves!! Read the bill!! It gives no money to immigrants for college. They will no qualify for government assistance and will need to pay their own way to college. So u can keep ur precious tax dollars!!

      • Keith Stone

        Right on Arnold Mr. Governor. We, The People of the United States of America, do declare that we citizens need to go to school first so we don’t die of starvation, and so our children aren’t sold off as slaves due to way below poverty lifestyle brought on by no jobs, the closure of American businesses, and the 1001 methods used to accomplish this. Sorry, come back later when America gets back on her feet, as when we are prosperous, we are generous. Today, we are dying, going homeless, barely surviving. So, right on Arnold, stay American, for The People, not the world we can’t no longer afford to support. Time for the sleepers to awaken. America is in real trouble, seriously bad trouble, and the sooner those who can’t see this wake up, smell the coffee, the better off America will be and then we can help some more, again. Here is a real neat way to wake up. Lose your job, and then try to find another one. Then you will FREAK OUT and start talking sense. Way to go. Veto away Baby!!! Trust Me!!!

    • Al Sieber

      dan, we need to vote every one of these traitors out, or tar and feather them. the way they’ve been telling us lately is there’s a terrorist hiding behind every rock and tree waiting to get us. they’re really turning up the fear as we get closer to the elections. be ready for another 911 type attack and the loss of more liberties.

    • s c

      Dan AZ, while Arnie has temporarily pulled his head out of that ‘special place,’ please don’t be so quick to give him much credit. He’s a politician, and politicians play by different rules. The first rule is get elected. The second rule is get re-lected. The third rule is stump for votes long before a major election rolls around.
      And, in Arnie’s case, he’s married to a Shriver. When you say Shriver, say Kennedy in the same breath. Arnie lives in California, the land of fruits, nuts and flakes and plastic politicians.
      Let Arnie EARN his reputation. He’s been in office for how many years now?

      • Lou Poulin

        Arnie may be married to a Democrat but he is a great Republican and makes decision in favor of the people who elected him. He did wait for the dream bill to be defeated before he vetoed his in California but, I think he gets suggestions from his wife and only listens. His job is to protect his state and their people.

      • kenneth

        That’s such b/s. He is a Rino just as many of the others I hope get the axe real soon. He started off being tough but now he is a marshmallow. A girlie man lover. He is a power hungry fool who has forgotten why he got in office in the first place. I wouldn’t wish his job on any Republican. California is so infested with left wing ideology I don’t know how they will ever get out of the mess they are in. Their legislature is so corrupt it’s pathetic. I am praying for all of them. There is a state that has really forgotten what has made America great. I am glad whatever family I did have there had enough sense to get out of there before the housing and the financial markets fail apart.

      • JeffH

        Lou Poulin, I live in California and Arnie is a joke…that’s J O K E!
        I’ll give you just one prime example of why I say this but there are many more to draw from.

        AB962: This bill requires individuals purchasing ammunition be fingerprinted and registered at the time of sale, mandates that dealers keep these records and make them available for inspection by the California Department of Justice. Ammunition retailers would also have to store ammunition in such a manner that it would be inaccessible to purchasers. Finally, mail order ammunition sales are prohibited under AB962. Over twenty years ago, Congress abolished similar requirements because ammunition sales records were found to be useless for solving crimes.

      • 45caliber

        Such ammunition records may not solve crimes but they are GREAT to use to determine who has a gun that might shoot that ammo. It’s just another way to register guns even though it is illegal.

      • Kate8

        JeffH, I have had the suspicion that Arnie is just another of the elite crowd. At least a tool.

        Remember when, during the special election, it came out that his father was a Nazi, or Nazi sympathiser? We were so desperate to get rid of Grey Davis that we kind of let it pass.

        Now I’m wondering if we should have paid more attention.

        Kind of reminds me of how the left ignores Odumbo’s connections.

      • JeffH

        Kate8, Arnie rubs elbows with the Rothschilds also.

        Arnold: The Rothschilds’ Man in California
        Arnold has been sanctioned by the Olympians. The European Families have authorized the deal and their American cousins at the Bohemian Grove seconded the motion to install Arnold as Governor. On Sept. 24, 2002, Reuters published a story called ‘Buffett’s Back, with the Terminator’ about Arnold and billionaire Warren Buffett visiting the ancestral home of the Rothschilds in England, where they “stepped onto Waddesdon’s freshly cut lawn to be greeted by Lord Jacob Rothschild… Among those invited to Waddesdon Manor were the likes of James Wolfensohn, president of the World Bank, Jorma Ollila, chief executive of Nokia and De Beers chairman Nicky Oppenheimer.
        http://www.squidoo.com/THEROTHSCHILDS

        This is an interesting website regarding the Rothschilds influences.

      • Kate8

        JeffH, I knew it!!

        Once again, we were had.

        We should have known. I’m sure most of us are a bit wiser now than we were back then.

        Thanks.

      • tlludwig

        Democrat or Republican – who cares? How about AMERICAN for a change? I’m so tired of the two party system in this country, the blame is perpetually shifted and nothing is ever solved.

      • rwnut

        tlludwig….Then try voting in the Tea Party Candidates.Here’s your opportunity.This is probably the last chance you get to change things.

      • rwnut

        Lou Poulin…You are totally friggen’ nuts! You’re exactly why Kaaleeforneea is being envaded and taken over! My God man! You haven’t paid any attention at all to old Arnie’s political career.The state is worse than broke.He’s done everything he can to keep the borders wide open! I’ve been writing him since he’s been in office to do something about the borders and illegals.His answer has always been that he does not intend to do anything about it.This is the first time he has even pretended to do something.He is a Demo-Donkey plant in the Republican party.PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT S.C. SAID.

      • marvin

        s c ,,arnie can not run agin for gov term limits,

    • http://naver samurai

      Hey Dan az, I just heard that Angle leads Reid by 3%-4% in the latest polls. The good fight stands a chance at another major victory. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

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