That’s our capitalist system for you.

I get your point but we never should have gotten involved over there in the way we did. Ronald Reagan armed Saddam and we’ve been paying for it many times over.

45 caliber, the specific word you’re looking for is MEAN-SPIRITED. There are many others that go right along with it, but that word stands out. It’s amusing how politics (the fine art of learning crap from shinola) brings out the worst in progressives.
Hypocrite is another fitting term. I wouldn’t be surprised if J is also a closet capitalist (he is so uncaring and spiteful). His mean side is showing, and he can’t take it back. Say this and do that. Whiz and moan. Blah.
No doubt J is also a charter member of the First Church of the Jockstrap Moonbats. Just another progressive, eh?

The main reason I commented on that is that liberals are AFRAID of guns. Yes, indeed. Even if they are laying on a table or locked up in a safe. Guns are EVIL! And here one of them wants someone shot.

That’s one reason I get amused at them wanting to lock up all the conservatives (most of whom are armed). They want us locked up but have to get other conservatives with guns to do it. So how do they get all of us locked up? A mystery …

45,
don’t I recall jopa jumping all over someone for saying about the same thing????

It was the wealthy who hired indentured servants and they used and abused them. A more accurate comparison today would be corporate farms who pay low wages and offer lousy working conditions. Then they turn around and “fire” these workers without paying them.

eddie!

You’re a fascist now? I’ll have to keep it in mind. I thought you were a progressive Communist.

They look the same at a distance.

Go back and read caliber,I was mocking SC’s repeated comments.

Claire,
so try a run as a conservative!!!

JoeH–The person I want as POTUS doesn’t have the money.

Oh,Please Disgusted! We’ve had to “bend over” for many years now with the rapid increases in our health care costs. At least a half a dozen major increases just from private insurances companies. So why would we be “shocked” with “huge surprises” with Obama’s health plan. We’ve already been shocked and awed by corporate thievery!

Yes, we have been ‘shocked’ as you say by the insurance fees. Particularly when they start passing along the new requirements the government says they MUST add to their policies. Such as sex-change operations, etc. that most of us REALLY REALLY need according to the government.

(By the way, people, how do you get a sex change operation from a girl to a boy? I saw an article this morning that stated something about some girl in high school planning to do this soon.)

45_ I beleive they’re called “add-a-dic-to-me!!!!_LMAO!!

45_-sadly we know a girl, who beleives she is so profoundly Lesbian, she has left her girlfriend, moved back home to the left coast, to have a complete mastectomy.__BTW_ I wasn’t too keen on knowing about her sexual orientation and whats she’s planning to do, so I sure as hell don’t need to know what she plans on doing, about the rest of her!!!!

45caliber,
nobama found out yesterday that his bill isn’t gonna go as planned. Mikey Ds is gonna cancell all of it’s employee plans if all they read is true!!! We are gonna cover 1.3 million more??? Theres 25,000 more without insurance!!!! Boy that sure worked well!!!

Sex change operations or plastic surgery should be left up to the private individual and be paid out of one’s own pocket.

You Ms negativity are the one acting like a “retardo” and you do all the time. Most on this site will vote Republican no matter what you or they say. To believe that the Tea Party folks,Republicans or Conservatives won’t vote Republican in November is a far stretch. When it’s all said and done it always rolls into the same pile. No different than saying blue dog Democrats won’t vote for Democrats just because they don’t see eye to eye on every issue. I bet sc will pull that Republican lever whether rino or not.

eddie:

You are right as far as I’m concerned. I will almost always vote Republican – but not because I want to!! It’s just that the other choice is so much worse!!

Hear, Hear!!!

IF… (big if) people here will vote “R” regardless, it’s because for 20yrs+ EVERY election has been “the lesser of 2 evils” or “who will do the least amount of damge”. I can only speak for myself, but it’s been the major qualifier for whom I’ll vote for, and more times than not…. the Repubs (even RINOs) will take us to h*ll a lot slower than the left. Also, how many “establishment” Repubs have been taken out by up-start T-partiers in primaries?? An awful lot of conservative Constitutionalists in the field this year. The truth is a lot of people are going to have someone to actually vote FOR and not be reduced to damage-control. You should be rightfully VERY worried.

Have fun at your commie rally on Saturday and here’s wishing everyone remains safe and the event isn’t marred by bad behavior.

I agree!

Robin, Obummer and his syndicate-like thugs think they can do anything they want. They will preach about the “law,” but they’re not willing to enforce laws we already have (especially via the Constitution). People like J live in a fantasy world. They are self-made losers.
If Obummer’s jock strap supporters have to be baseball-batted into reality, sobeit. It’s them or us, and I have no plans to stand by and watch America go down the toilet just so those wannabe Hannibal Lecters and Nazis can be ‘happy.’
What can be said about an administration that acts like Stalin’s Russia one day and Hitler’s Germany the next?

Okay Robin, What did this administration promise that they are not working on? No matter what Obama does;whether it is good bad or indifferent you will find fault with and work hard to destroy. 99% of the articles on the Livingston site have been negative and pointedly against most issues. Does this constant barrage of negative speech effect you at all. Have you become immune to it and accept it as normal. Most on this site relish the negativity and demand more. That has been proven when on a couple of occasions Bob said something positive about Democrats and this site got mad at him. Told him in so many words to go back to the way he has always been. I think even Mr Livingston doesn’t even dare cross the line in being fair and balanced for he would loose his audience. Unless the business community produces jobs then the unemployment will stay high. This business community has had ample time to hire or produce jobs and some are trying. All this negativity,blind hatred for government help,and over the top conspiracies is also putting fear in the business community. I wouldn’t produce any jobs either if I thought America was imploding into the dustbin of history. Do you take any responsibility for that feeling of doom and gloom that is spread by every prophet of fear on the right.Too many of you have paralyzed America so it can’t make thoughtful decisions on job growth. You’ve become like the Unions you detest. You make unreasonable demands and want more and more for your side then wonder why you’re losing jobs instead of keeping those jobs. Republicans and Libertarians both have shouted out to give tax breaks to businesses. “they can’t possibly survive with the tax burden they have”. Yet tax breaks are now offered and those same Republicans go into full mode denial that it will work. More excuses on top of the old excuses. Are you getting the picture. This bill doesn’t say this money has to be used but it’s there if needed. That makes John Boehner look darn pathetic.

eddie47d

“99% of the articles on the Livingston site have been negative and pointedly against most issues.”

You’ve got some gall to say that after you read the excrescence published on Huffington Post, Media Matters and Moveon.org

As Bugs Bunny would say, “What a maroon!”

eddie:

So far I’ve not seen any “solution” this administration has come up with that isn’t worse than the problem they are supposed to be fixing. Do you know of any? I certainly don’t! And since they are making things worse, I’d just as soon they didn’t try at all!

The country didn’t tailspin into a depression and has stabilized and that was a top priority.Will it hold? That’s up for grabs.Unless unemployment goes down 4-5% the economy will stay stagnant. We all know where the jobs went and why the economy tanked. Now, will the American people slow down their appetite for Chinese goods? Will corporations become more reasonable and stop paying themselves trophy salaries and unearned bonuses? Will some unions accept the good things they have and stop demanding more just because it’s contract time? It will take bold moves by all to get the USA back on track. We have to change our way of thinking that salaries HAVE TO go up. That houses will Only increase in value and that is our nest egg.We have to be better prepared on many fronts.We need to stop our police actions around the world for they do not make us safer. That also drains our economy. Although China’s economy is not as strong as we are told they are also not at war. They spend their money on better things like infrastructure. We need to balance our growth out and avoid all these booms and busts.

He got combat troops out of Iraq (shouldn’t have been there in the first place). He did this ahead of schedule which you don’t hear from government very often. His administration has fixed the absentee ballot issue for soldiers which has been broken for a long time. He could easily have let this little known issue go since it is not likely to benefit his party but it was the right thing to do. His administration has also allowed children with pre-existing conditions to stay on their parents insurance plans. Many many more could be stated but there’s a start.

D, only you or one of your pals could be naive enough to think Herr Obummer is doing America or our military any favors. You have all of the awareness of a little kid. Your half-assed magician-prez will shift the military personnel he ‘took out of Iraq’ and send them wherever it’s convenient (can you say Afghanistan?).
Keep on seeing what you want to see, dude. When the Titanic II starts to sink, don’t be surprised to learn that many people jumped ship before it sank. It takes a hardcore dolt to elevate a politician to a god-like status. But then, that’s what progressives do best. Is that nose ring you have made of pot metal or cheap brass? Wanna buy a condo on Uranus?

sc,
I guess Doc forgot those 50,000 troops still in Iraq!!! Tell THEM that he got the troops out of Iraq!!!

Doc Sarvis:

If I may ask, do you indeed have a doctorate and, if so, what field of endeavor?

Vigilant,
he has a PHD in BS!! Piled Higher and DEEPER in Bull $hit!!!

Doc:

He fixed the voting problem for the soldiers??

How?

The Democrats have NEVER wanted the soldiers to vote since 90% of them vote conservative.

I would REALLY like to know how he fixed this problem. The story has COMPLETLEY escaped my attention.

I heard a lengthy story on the (radio) news yesterday about how the absentee balloting is MUCH more efficient giving those citizens overseas, largely the military, much more confidence that their ballots will be counted with the regular election day ballots. Good news.

It would be nice. However, absentee ballots are not counted AT ALL unless there is a very close race – less than a thousand votes different between the two candidates. As one election official said, “why count five hundred absentee ballots when one candidate wins by ten thousand votes? It takes time and won’t change the election at all.”

DS, Not allowing insurance companies to oust someone for a Pre-existing conditions, is the ONLY THING I agree with in this Health care bill!_The rest of it madated control, control, control, an another behind the scenes, vessel they used to pass legislation that doesn’t have a Damn thing to do with Health Care!__

Angel Wannabe,
“has nothing at all to do with health care” you mean like the part in the bill that requires all Gold sales to be registered??? How does that have anything to do with health care?? Guess P-lousy was right when she said we had to pass it before we could find out what was in it!!

im just appalled by the haters!!! and i love obama!! he’s doing better than any of you could or would, WAIT! thats why he’s president and you’re not :O……………

Oh there there…we’re not “haters” we simply despise your Commie Muslim Kenyan guy. Better?

JC, I couldn’t have said it better myself!

JC,
you know how they say “don’t hate the player, hate the game”? Well we don’t hat Nobama, we just hate all the GAMES he’s playing!!! The only thing is, his “GAMES” have very dire circumstances!!!

Allen says:
September 30, 2010 at 10:49 am
MICK SAYS, “Mr. Obama can “Do Nothing Right.” according to you(far right’s). Your gage of measure is this. ” Does a thing put money in my pocket( and my friends and relatives) or not” ” All going out’s BAD- All coming In , GOOD.” ADVANTAGE ADVANTAGE ADVANTAGE ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS! Shame on you all!”
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Allen,,,,,,,,,,,,,You got that wrong…Mick didn’t say that john K did…please read the comments carefully………..

Your right Allen, the Government CAN’T LOSE!!!!

ALLEN, I worked for a retails sales company_ oh, 25-27 years ago?__This company had it made!_ When they hired us, we were told we had to purchase and wear the clothing the company made as a sales pitch????__get that?!!!__How could they lose?!!__Me being a young dumb azz, I bought the line_ I liked the company & the clothes, so I bought them, wore them and sold them and got paid for it!!__But they couldn’t lose, they gave us our pay checks, and then we turned around and bought clothes from the same company we worked for!?!
___Sounds like the Government doesn’t it???

AMJ,
Too bad everybody doesn’t feel that way!! The country would still be in the black ink!!!

Good ol’ sc always full of fascist mind controlling propaganda in her every comment.You’re so predictable and you have your rants down even before a Livingston story breaks.sieg heil!

Your right Robin, we’ve got enough deb! Washington needs to ACTUALLY READ THE CONSTITUTION, and go the hell back and do what we voted them in to do, nothing more!_ They act as if they represent us, and then treat us with contempt, by passing friggin bills and amendments, that no one benefits from!__They’re nothing more than a bunch of lousy actors!__Again_ they’re wackjobs!

Angel Wannabe,
you mean they can READ?!?!?!?!

You really have a great point there, Robin. Always read the fine print! Congress can’t even read a bill they sign, much less comprehend what is in it. They have said so openly. Besides which, the health care bill is still being written as we speak. Grounds for impeachment and recall of elected officials. But, the voices are not loud enough….and, even if they were, nincompoops like those on MSNBC and other controlled news outlets would still spew their left brain mantra of hate to get their kicks. I watch them with the mute button on just to read their minds. LOL. A facial expression is worth a thousand words.

You are exactly right. People aren’t spending money on anything that is not an “essential” right now.
Obummer is such a horses a$$ – his entire term as president has been one blunder after another. He should have said absolutely not to the bailouts. He should have held off on obummer care until we as a country are more financially stable, there are things hidden in that healthcare bill that none of us even know about yet, we will be paying more in every aspect of our lives to pay for it. Just wait.

DaveH, Someone up farther on the thread, also had a great point, although Bambi put a jobs bill in place, they doubted if the job creaters would ever get to it, due to all the red tape__-So in essence all the effort in this bill, is nothing more than a TOKEN effort, a smoke screen!

45, The good works his mysterious ways, doesn’t he?

ok how about this, THE GOOD LORD WORKS HIS MYSTERIOUS WAYS, DOESN’T HE??___NOW I GOT IT!!!—-LOL

DavidL,
The ten year sunset clause on the Bush tax cuts was to accomodate the Democrats wishes. So don’t blame accountants.

And this proposed small business loan package is nothing but the newest Obamaruse that will never find it’s way to small business because of the miles of red tape, but will instead become another slush fund for only Allah knows where.

And thats only part of the reasons why I will not pay taxs to this corrupt government again. They have seen my last dollar.
Nor am I going to pay in to Social Security ever again.

Oh I am just one of many who are not going to pay anylonger.

Enough is enough, I can’t see paying for my own destruction, how about YOU?

Time,Out;Are you serious or just grandstanding? Many have tried and many have failed and some said the same thing under the corrupt Bush government. You’re sounding like those in the 60′s who said they wouldn’t pay taxes because of the Vietnam War. Some on this site say all taxes are illegal. Some don’t want to pay taxes for education.Some don’t want any taxes going to the defense industry.Some didn’t want taxes for the space industry (spend money here on earth not on the moon).Everyone has their favorite anti-tax proposal. You mentioned months ago what you’re worth was so maybe you have enough wealth where you don’t have to pay into social security. Some don’t have that luxury.

Eddie, I am not grandstanding, what I say is what I mean.

The Federal Government has no busines taxing your “work product,” read the law as its written, its very clear so much so that anyone can understand it.
It clearly states the only income that can be taxed is from;
{Capital Gains, or Dividend income.” In plian words stocks and bonds I don’t invest in either.

The facts are I have never supported any war nor have I found any of the wars we have been involved with other than the Revolution that started this country of benifit to Us in anyway shape or form.
Every war since has been nothing but “population control” as well to see how well “new tec toys” worked.
Therefor I will no longer support our governments out of control behavior.

Time; Thank You

The only “no-brainers” I detect are the socialist rantings of DavidL, because you would need no brain to agree with him.

He obviously (1) didn’t read the following: “According to a recent survey by the Office Depot Small Business Index, most small business owners have no intention of adding jobs in the near future.”

And (2) doesn’t know or refuses to admit that the bulk of people who make over $250K are small business owners. They recognize that Obama throwing them a bone to help avert the coming Mid Term disaster is just a token gesture. On Jan 1, if the socialists in gov’t have their way, small business will again be hit with a job-killing tax hike. And small business, my friend, is what generates the lion’s share of jobs in this country.

Pravda is looking for journalists. Why don’t you apply?

Obviously, David, you know little about economics. Those rich people are the ones who invest their money in capital goods. While they are using their money to create business and produce our goods, most of the lower income people are consuming those goods as fast as they can spend their money.
So, go ahead, David, kill the golden goose, but I hope those around you remember that you aided and abetted the takers when we become a tumultous third world country.

What kind of a moron are you?

First of all, I earn much less than $250,000 per year.
I earned less in 2009 than in 2008. Yet my 2009 taxes were a bit HIGHER. And they will be higher again in 2010. So imagine what will happen in 2011!!! With dividend and capital gains rates going up, I will be paying higher taxes. And then comes the big one — my health insurance (which also went up in cost this year) will be added to my gross income, and I will be paying another $2000 more in taxes in 2011. Juan Peron Obama said that nobody earning less than $250,000 per year would have a tax increase. He is a damn liar. An you are a damn fool.

Because it might be getting a little bit confusing to follow, I want to make it clear that my comments are aimed at DavidL, not at Dave H.

We knew that!!!

Obama could take a lesson from John Kennedy who also saw the importance of tax cuts to the wealthy. He had the good sense to know what would truly stimulate the economy. When those with $$ can spend it to create jobs the nation becomes more secure. But then, would The Big O really do that? I sure hope The Big O comes to mean ostracized and the sooner the better.

JoeH, Washington being what it is, and Obummer being what and who he is, I’d say there’s another slush fund being set up, so when it’s convenient, our wannabe slave masters can step in and try to pull off another immoral, anti-American ‘hope and change’ debacle.
It’s getting harder and harder to tell the difference between organized crime and this twisted collection of America-haters.

Joe:

Hey, Oblama is the President! Right? He won! He will tell you so. So he needs to get rich on it someway. Millions of dollars are so passe. Billions are the things now. I’m sure he’s given it to someone who will be willing to return the favor later. Soros, maybe. After all, Soros has been spending a lot lately to try to keep the Dim’s in office.

45caliber, excellant point.

Tell it like it is!!!! Way to go 45caliber!!!