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Is It Time To Say, "To Hell with Islam?"

September 22, 2010 by  

Is It Time To Say, "To Hell with Islam?"

Part one of a two-part series

If you are like me, you are sick and tired of being frightened over Muslim sentiments. I say it’s high time to understand that regardless of what we do or say, we Christians have a target on our back. It’s time to face the cold truth: For countless believers of the Quran, we ARE the enemy. The sooner we understand this, the better.

It is time to say: To hell with Islam. We’re not going to take it anymore!

As I write to you, Muslims are still vowing to build a mosque near the site of the 9/11 attacks in New York and Pastor Terry Jones backed down from burning the Quran on the anniversary of the Twin Towers tragedy. While I believe that anybody that burns books is an idiot, I find it objectionable that Jones abandoned his convictions because of pressure from the President Barack Obama White House. Unlike President George W. Bush who clearly laid out the battle lines — ”you’re either with us, or against us” — Obama is obsessed over what Muslims “might do” if we offend them.

President Obama — The Eager Appeaser
Call it politics, background or birthright; Obama is intent on appeasing the Muslims of the world. In fact Obama has traveled so far out of his way to avoid confronting Muslims that it’s hard to believe he is still on planet earth.

Obama is not alone in apologizing to Muslims. In 2008, England’s Archbishop of Canterbury gave an interview to the BBC. He said that the introduction of Islam in the United Kingdom — prayers from which are broadcast three times daily over loudspeakers in Oxford — is “inevitable.”

Even comedians are afraid to ruffle Muslim feathers. One of England’s top funny men, Rory Bremner, said he’s afraid to write jokes about Islam because he fears death threats.

On a David Frost television program this past summer, Bremner said, “The greatest danger now is that one of the toughest issues of our time is religion. I’m writing a line and I think, ‘If this goes down badly, I’m writing my own death warrant there.’ Because there are people who will say, ‘Not only do I not think that’s funny but I’m going to kill you’ — and that’s chilling.”

Seth MacFarlane, the creator of the TV show Family Guy — which routinely makes fun of Christ — was on Larry King Live a couple of months ago and also admitted that he, too, worries about poking fun at Islam.

The truth is we are a millennia and a half beyond offending Islam. They have been offended for more than 1,000 years and I have news: They will stay that way.

This is what Tricia Erickson had to say on the subject in a Sept. 11 News Blaze, op-ed:

“For the sake of the REALITY of who we are indeed at war with and why, let me quote some scriptures from the Koran that may be recited in the new Mosque to be built at ground zero:

  • "Martyrdom is therefore the ONLY way for a Muslim to obtain forgiveness of sins" Surat Al Tawbah 9:111.
  • "Jihad (fighting for Allah’s cause) is ordained for you" Surat Al-Baqarah 2:216.
  • "Kill the Mushrikun (non-Muslims); wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush" Surat Al-Taubah 9:5.
  • "They (non-Muslims) shall be killed or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off from opposite sides, or be exiled from the land" Surat Al Maidah 5:33.
  • "And if you are killed or die in the Way of Allah, forgiveness and mercy from Allah are far better than all that they amass" Surat Al Taubah 9:111.

Erickson points out that the Quran is filled with proclamations calling for the killing and maiming of “Christians, Jews and overall non-believers”.

In Allah’s Own Image
I don’t know how things are in your neck of the woods, but up here in Calgary, Canada the majority of Muslims do not immigrate and assimilate. They congregate.

In fact, Calgary is home to the largest Muslim temple in North America, the colossal 48,000-square-foot Baitun Nur mosque. The Mayor of Calgary, Dave Bronconnier, said when the complex was completed: “On laying the foundation stone of this magnificent mosque, Canadian values are flourishing in the City of Calgary."

Frankly, I just don’t see it. Maybe three decades ago it was that way with the Muslim immigrants I shared classes with at the University of Calgary. But today you can hardly travel a few blocks and not see a Muslim woman wearing the traditional burqa. In fact Canada’s Muslim population has doubled since 9/11.

Keep in mind I am not suggesting for a moment that Calgary’s Muslim population is bent on the destruction of Western Civilization, or even misfeasance. What I am saying is that the overwhelming evidence in Calgary and in Canada indicates that the vast majority of Muslims are clinging to their traditional culture and ethos. As their numbers grow, these things will lead to a nation far different from the one my parents and I were born into.

Before I get a bunch of hate comments accusing me of racism, consider this: I have close personal and decade-long relationships with two people of the Muslim faith; both of whom have been ostracized by their communities because they practice a Western lifestyle. And if you are a blue-blooded Liberal keep this in mind: Under the Sharia or the law of Allah, “Women are considered inferior to men, and have fewer rights and responsibilities.” There goes women’s liberation.

The Muslims Are Coming, The Muslims Are Coming

If you think that the growth of Islam is unique to Canada, think again. According to the book: America Alone: The End of the World as we Know It, the author Mark Steyn argues that the West’s steady decline relative to Islam has much to do with Muslim insistence on keeping their culture as well as their high fertility rates.

For example, the U.S. has a fertility rate of a little more than two births per woman. Europe falls far below this level. Germany checks in at 1.3 births per woman, with Russia and Italy at 1.2 and Spain a little more than one birth per woman.

Steyn contrasts this with the fertility rate in Muslim countries like Afghanistan, 6.69 births per woman, Mali 7.42 and Somalia 6.76 births per woman. Steyn points out that Muslims living in Europe do not assimilate and, because of their population boom, they will instead take over Europe and be the dominant cultural force in 40 years.

According to Steyn, Islam is a far greater threat than global warming, China or any other man-made or natural disaster imaginable.

Certainly this is not how Obama and likeminded Liberals in and out of the Federal government see things. They continue to try and win over hearts and minds of Muslims; to convert them to Western Democratic thinking. It is a losing strategy, and one for which we will pay a very dear price.

Yours for wealth and health,

John Myers
Myers’ Energy & Gold Report

P.S. — Look for part-two, Allah, Oil & Our Future on Oct. 6. It will examine one reason why Obama feels the need to placate Muslims, plus how America can change its future by weaning off Arab oil while exploiting our own rich reserves of coal and natural gas. The Greens won’t like it but I am way past worrying about their feelings.

John Myers

is editor of Myers’ Energy and Gold Report. The son of C.V. Myers, the original publisher of Oilweek Magazine, John has worked with two of the world’s largest investment publishers, Phillips and Agora. He was the original editor for Outstanding Investments and has more than 20 years experience as an investment writer. John is a graduate of the University of Calgary. He has worked for Prudential Securities in Spokane, Wash., as a registered investment advisor. His office location in Calgary, Alberta, is just minutes away from the headquarters of some of the biggest players in today’s energy markets. This gives him personal access to everyone from oil CEOs to roughnecks, where he learns secrets from oil insiders he passes on to his subscribers. Plus, during his years in Spokane he cultivated a network of relationships with mining insiders in Idaho, Oregon and Washington.

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  • Jerry D

    An excellent article. Political correctness be damned. Yes, it’s time that Christians stood up and let their voices be heard unashamedly. We need to vote our convictions at the voting booth and return America to its Judeo-Christian roots.

  • RivahMitch

    Unless and until “Christians” and westerners begin responding to attacks, insults and affronts as Muslims do, western culture and society is doomed. Any Muslim seeking to build a victory mosque in New York should be at least as afraid as the average Copt attending a worship service in Egypt.

  • NJ Nurse

    Islam is not a tolerate religion and never has been. The Koran and sharia law are one in the same, meaning their religion and politics are one and the same. I too am tired of hearing about these people and feel if they want to come to our country they need to adapt to American life and keep their religion/politics to themselves and stop shoving it down our throats. The more we listen to them the more obnoxious they become in their demands, so if we turn a deaf ear they get nowhere. Our gov should certainly do the same but they will use it to get elected just as they have always used the poor, the elderly and the disabled. Thanks for the article.

    • Conservative at Birth

      They cannot stay here and live peacefully. It is inherant in there beliefs to kill all non believers. They must be removed like the cancer they are.

  • RLS

    My country is dying before my eyes.
    Generations have been chemically lobotomized with drugs.
    Our nation has stood by and allowed the demeaning of human life by sanctioning murder in the womb.
    Our children are now enraged and violent through government sanctioned lack of discipline.
    We’ve been invaded by millions of illegal job seekers, gangs, weapon and drug dealers.
    We’ve allowed homosexuals to teach their perversion in our schools.
    We bash christians and jews and coddle muslims.
    America is dying and those of us who realize it are too old to do anything about it.
    Our enemies are now in control of our government and we have lost it because we have no guts to fight them.

    • Joyce from Loris

      RLS, I know how you feel. It is the older people who are most shocked that this could all happen in the American that we grew up in. Remember sleeping at night with the windows up?? Now days, the last think I ask my husband at night is “did you set the alarm?”. What a shame that my grandchildren will never know the life that I lived in this country. I can not, and never will, understand those who so flippant about our concerns with the condition of our nation. When we were young, you never worried about insulting anyone, because we were all alike! The most we could do was call someone “shorty” or “fatty”, and then we got spanked for that!

      • Angel Wannabe

        Amen, Joyce, there was no conflict, because we all believed in the same things!!!–We did have true Jews, but all the Jewish people we knew, celebrated both Christmas and Chanukah and we all got along.

      • Karolyn

        Change is inevitable. I still leave my doors and windows unlocked, and I’ a single woman living alone. Of course, I live in the country. However, the reason for the violent changes goes right back to population. If population control had been put into effect back in the 70s when it was a big issue, we wouldn’t have all the problems we have. There have always been, thieves, murderers, rapists, etc. but, first, we never heard about the; and, second, since there are more people, there is more crime. Simple.

      • Joyce from Loris

        I live in the country as well. Our home was broken into three times. We were forced by the criminals to get an alarm system. We were forced by people who believe in taking other people’s stuff, just because they wanted it. In court, they tried to use as a defense that they did not have any money, so they stole what was mine so they could sell it to get money. Welfare people, not satisfied with taking my tax dollars, they wanted everything else I had as well.

      • dan az

        If population control had been put into effect back in the 70s when it was a big issue, we wouldn’t have all the problems we have.
        Really then why is it so hard for you to understand that this nation has been invaded and over populated with illegals and you do nothing but whine about how every one is so kill happy? And you would rather see we as the ones that get population controled!Please explain your logic to me and all that had you read your spew!

    • Bruce D.

      You are not too old to give your opinion. Shout it long and shout loud.

      • Joyce from Loris

        Bruce, we do! The scariest thing of all, is that we really AREN’T THAT OLD!. I am not even 60 years old yet, but in just the past 30 years, we have watched in horror as our country changed. No, I don’t like Obama and his administration, but this all started happening long before Obama. The Civil Rights Laws put in place by Johnson in the 60′s was so destructive.The welfare system adopted during that same time was outrageous. I remember the trade agreements that Reagan agreed to, which helped start the downfall of the American Industry. Carter was an ABSOLUTE failure of a President. I worked for DuPont, and we were the finest in the world with our products. The minute the trade agreements went into affect, the lay offs began. In 1973, the plant that I worked at employed 2600 people. By 1988, when I left, there were only 1200 people. Today, that same plant is OWNED by a mexican company, with only 400 employees. Half the plant is down. What a shame.

      • Bruce D.

        The trade agreements were put in place by Clinton.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Jpyce, I did some research recently,on how many Industrial plants have left our area, in the last 25-30 years here in the mid-alantic. The number is 17!__Most closings were due to EPA regulation, Unions not willing to comprimise on contracts, tax/regulation, three closings were due to deaths of the owners, and the hiring, poor replacement management!

    • Larry Owens

      You have hit the nail on the head.

      That is the problem we are suppose to be a Christian
      nation but ALL the evil garbage we have let lose in our
      nation is NOW paying us back, GOD will not be Mocked.

      Thanks for your post.

  • Kenny kernell

    We are not at war with Islam? Like it or not we are and the powers that be had better stop kidding around about this. They absolutely hate us and intend to destroy us and our way of life.

    • http://www.poorgrandchildren.com Poorgrandchildren

      The terrorist/political organization called Islam is certainly at war with us.

  • http://www.poorgrandchildren.com Poorgrandchildren

    Words have consequences. Stop calling Islam a religion. It is a terrorist organization trying to operate under the cover of religion just like the KKK. Some of the converts are more violent than others.

  • pennsyltuckian

    Time to play cowboys and muslims.

  • http://ByGeorge By George

    People who have referenced passages from the Koran about how muslim’s should treat non-believers, are spot on. There are no, repeat “NO” moderate muslims. There are only muslims who have not been activated yet. Believers in true Islam stand on the principles outlined in the seven pillars of Islam and there can be no deviation, none what-so-ever. Muslims are authorized to lie to non-believers if it advances their cause, conversion of all to Islam. We will receive no succor from any so called moderate muslim for defending our western beliefs, religion or social customs.

    There is one nationality that has my complete admiration for it proven toughness: it is the Christian Serbians who after losing to the Ottoman Empire, refused to kowtow to the Turks and Islam for over 400 years. They resisted conversion and as a result, became the slaves and peasants and dirt for the ruling Muslims. Those that went along to get along became the Bosnians, Albanians and a few others.

    Am I a racist for saying this? Not by my definition. This is self-defense! While Islam itself is not yet to be feared, what is to be feared is that our political leaders are disarming us of our own self defense with their accommodation to Islamic crackpots out of fear of offending. Political Correctness is our Achilles heel.

    Let the offending commence!

    • JC

      You are so right George. When are we going to do our history studies and dig into what is really going on and get a clue. It’s the proverbial frog in the pot. It’s starting to get very hot.

    • Wlmitch1

      The southwestern part of Bosnia, which borders Croatia, has a nearly all Croat population. Most of Bosnia was part of Croatia until the Muslim Ottoman Turks overran it, annexed it into the Ottoman Empire, and named it Bosnia & Hercegovina. The Turks treated the Bosnian Croats as Dhimmis (second-class citizens). They treated the Serbs like animals. Serbia had become a vassal state of the Ottoman Empire. As you correctly point out, the Serbs rightfully resisted being Islamicized by the Turks for 500 years. Of course, the Turks were not satisfied with what they had already conquered. Their next goal was to overrun the rest of Croatia through a mountain pass just southeast of Karlovac, Croatia. Their ultimate goal was to use Croatia as a staging area to invade and overrun Europe.

      The battle of Karlovac commenced with 5,000 Croat defenders against 50,000 Turk invaders. The Croat defenders used guerilla tactics, took no prisoners, and beheaded the Turks as they met them on the battlefield. The Croat defenders fought viciously and showed no mercy. They HAD TO in order to survive! The death ratio of Turks to Croats was more than 10:1. The Turkish general and his soldiers became so demoralized that they fled back into Bosnia, never to return.

      Here is the mistake the Serbs made in the 1990s: They attacked Slovenia and Croatia, and commited atrocities against Croatian civilians when Slovenia and Croatia, who were forced into Yugoslavia in 1918 and again in 1945, seceded from Communist Yugoslavia. If they had not done that, Croatia would not have so vocally spoken out against what the Serbs were doing to the Bosnian Muslims. The Serbs at the time appeared to be the aggressors against all non-Serbs.

      In the beginning of the war in Bosnia, the Croats and Muslims were fighting the Serbs because they wanted independence from Communist Yugoslavia. When Mujahadeen mercinaries arrived in Bosnia, they committed atrocities against Serbs and Croats alike. It was not very long before the Bosniak Muslims began doing the same. By the end of the Bosnian war, the Bosnian Serbs and Bosnian Croats were fighting on the same side against the Muslims. After the war, the Croats in Croatia learned of the Muslim atrocities against the Bosnian Croats. The Croats learned from their mistakes, and when the Serbs attacked the Muslim Albanians in Kosovo, Croatian sentiment was with the Serbs, not the Albanians. The hatreds between the Serbs and the Croats, which began in 1918, had died down. And for the very first time in Bosnia & Hercegovina, Croatian Parishes have had to open Catholic schools because of Bosniak discrimination against Croat students in the public schools. As an American of 50% Croat ancestry, I regard at least 70% of Kosovo as rightfully SERBIAN soil. The Muslim Albanians encroached into Kosovo during the last 100 years of Ottoman Turk rule, which ended around 1913. The Turks are hated throughout all of the Balkans, except among Bosniak Muslims, even today.

      The Albanian enclaves in Montenegro are nearly all Catholic, and they do not cause trouble. The Albanians in Macedonia are nearly all Eastern Orthodox, and they do not cause trouble. The Albanians in Kosovo, however, are nearly all Muslims. They are vicious, violent and dangerous, and are constantly causing trouble. The Albanians as an ethnic group are 70% Muslim, 30% Eastern Orthodox, and 10% Catholic. The Serbs, Macedonians, and Montenegrins are about 90% Eastern Orthodox. The Croats and Slovenes are about 90% Catholic.

      As long as there are Balkan, Middle Eastern (including Arabic), Near Eastern, South Asian, and African Christians in America, we will continue to expose Muslim atrocities worldwide, and openly resist any Islamicization of America. That means NO Ground Zero Cultural Center with Mosque. The white people of Europe are now getting a taste of what OUR races have already been through, and in some cases, are still going through. Many Balkan Christians have also suffered under Communism, and we will openly resist IT as well.

  • JRC

    It seems to me that the “”Christians”" on this blog are still not over the fact that the Muslims kicked they’re butt during the crusades and are pushing and hoping for another religious war in the name of they’re and the Muslim murderous God. When will you all grow up and leave this superstitious nonsense behind you?

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      JRC… Whom do you believe in?

      • C Schutz

        JRC…..get your head out of your a**!

      • Jana

        JRC
        Is obviously a Muslim and proud of it. He is in bondage and just doesn’t relize it. A slave.

    • S.C.Murf

      what rock have you been living under. You must have some money and don’t have to take in the real world

    • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

      Radical Muslims are endangering and implicating the moderates. Moderate Muslims had better wake up and start slapping down the radical element.

    • Jerry D

      Ah, an atheist has stepped among us. The Crusaders were just as much thugs and infidels as the Muslim hordes that had slaughtered before them. Your view of Christians is definitely skewed and errant. Look around today and tell me how many Evangelical Christian terrorists or Jewish terrorists do you see? Very, very few – if any. Yet a conservative estimate of 10 percent of Muslims are considered extremists and dangerous. That’s at least 150 million. Get a clue. You’re so far off base that you’ve left the ball park.

    • Conservative at Birth

      You sir are an ostrich, or not a true American.

  • Ronifer

    Simply put, at this point it’s kill them before they kill us. AND, if our troops find any of them hiding behind women or children – they too should be killed. When it finally dawns on them that we are TOTALLY COMMITTED to winning our war with them – I believe then and only then they will back off ! I know it sounds brutal but these people are brutal. Remember how they severed the head of an American on TV, how they stone and lash women ! WAKE UP AMERICA !

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U2n-RxUh48 infidel-Bob

    2 Things,
    1.) It’s not Radical Islam, It’s Fundemental Islam. They’re DOING what their prophet taught them.
    Islam: Peace Taught like this:

    Kill the disbelievers [non-moslems] wherever we find them. (Sura 2:191)

    The infidels are your sworn enemies. (Sura 4:101)

    Make war on the infidels who dwell around you. (Sura 9:123)

    Prophet, make war on the infidels. (Sura 66:9)

    2.) Peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence.

    Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late. As for us who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts–the fanatics who threaten our way of life.

    England Tried twice to Appease war mongers to the tune of two world wars.

    Next ww will not be a national one

    • Jana

      infdel-Bob,
      How right you are.
      Call me infidel Jana!

    • JC

      You are sooooo right.

  • john oliveros

    please take note, look at any muslim in the eyes, they cannot
    hide the hate for you.

    • Karolyn

      I haven’t seen that looking into the eyes of Muslimchildren with American soldiers in IeQ.

      • slickporsche

        You are simply nothing more than a Dumb c&&t. Very few of us give a damn about your dribble.

      • Karolyn

        ooooh! You are so slick!

      • Viktor Leben

        Damn ! Slickporsche !

        Heil Hitler Mr. Nazi ! That’s sure a good way to treat a lady, you numb nuts !

      • Karolyn

        See what I mean?

  • wm roberts

    tricia erickson’s excert should be on the front page of every u.s. newspaper and morning t.v program in america for a week, unless americans see it they won’t beleive it. they are stupid and the muslims know that.

    the radical muslims started this mess, and the the pacifist muslim is as much a victim.

    it’s time america gets a grip on it’s borders and stops importing people. now O wants to import 100k pakistanis and what religion do you think they will be? I’ll let you guess.

  • http://none Jarrow

    Will the ACLU protect Muslim “rights” to public displays of religion while continuing to prosecute Christians and Jews?
    The ACLU and their ilk have softened us up for the attack of the Islamist fanatics, hasn’t it?
    If we want to start winning the war against these monsters, we have to overthrow the goverment of Iran by supporting their dissidents. But the Obamination Administration refuses to do that.

  • K. D. M.

    Nice to finaly here more people in this country realise that the muslims are out to conquer us. They fired first, 9/11 and their is no such thing as a moderate muslim. They are told to lie to the infidels, that’s us. Smile when with us while hating us in their hearts. If they are not stopped they will conquer us….

    • Gul

      I would say they fired first with the 1993 WTC bombing. Before that they fired at the Munich Olympics, Bali Nightclub Bombing, US Embassy Bombings in Africa, Berlin Nightclub Bombing, USS Cole attack, Mumbai train blasts and I think the London Subway bombing also happened before 09/11.

      Moderate Muslims will never rise up against the World Caliphate movement; any one who does is marked for death — example Shah of Iran, Anwar Sadat among many.

    • Conservative at Birth

      The first shot was the oil embargo, then the Ahilles Loro and sending Klingfoffer (a jew in a wheel chair) over the side, in recent history. They are nothing more than a Military Cult hell bent on desctruction and mayhem.

  • JC

    Any religion that advocates my death for not conforming, is my enemy.

  • THINK ABOUT

    One must ask what is the difference in a radical muslim or a radical christian. Radical is the difference we should be concerned about. The same standard must be held, I don’t like radical anything and this goes for the radical thoughts I read and hear. The name calling is just a way of being radical and attempting to force others to believe as those who name call. To spread untruths when the ones spreading the untruths is also radical.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U2n-RxUh48 infidel-Bob

      The proper term is fundemental. Doing what they’re taught by their holy book.

      • Bud

        no iB it is fundamental. If you are going to correct someone go all the way and at least spell it right. Duuuuh

    • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

      The radical muslim is the one who wants to kill you.

      • Jana

        And no moderate Muslim will stand against them eiher. They are afraid to do so. While listening to an English speaking Muslim radio station, they were stating that they were just biding their time and allowing the moderate muslims to act this way, but when it comes down to us taking over there will be no more moderates.
        I couldn’t believe what I was hearing. This was about 8 years ago. Since then I have been studying Islam, and its an eye popper!

      • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

        Jana-

        I think you are absolutely right. Fear of radical muslims is why the majority of Muslims don’t speak up. Does it occur to liberals that when they see American citizens go into hiding (like the cartoonist in Seattle) something terrible is happening?

    • Radical Thinker

      You say that you dont like radical anything but if you will THINK ABOUT what you are saying yow will realize that radical is good if it is used for the right cause or reason. I have come to the conclusion that the first Americans settlers where extremely radical people they risk there lives for the dream of living in a free land. I think the men that signed the Decelaration of Independence where radical people and the lost everything they had including their lives for the dream of freedom. If it where not for radical people serving in our military the freedom that gave you the right to express your opinion about this article whould have already been lost. I think that Jesus was radical about the salvation of man because he was willing to die and pay the price of redemption for sinful man. I think radical Christianity believes in life liberty & the pursuit of happines. Yes they are so radical that they beleive the words of Jesus when he said that he is the only way that a man can attain salvation but they have to come to him willing of their own free will not forced submition as the radical Muslims & our own Government/religion of social justice preaches and is being shoved down our throat so yes I am a radical person that beleives in a small limited Government with freedom not forced submition.

      • JC

        Nicely put.

      • http://Google ProudChicagoan

        Radical Thinker – very good. I was just thinking that I could be qualified as a radical because I believe 1000+% that Jesus is my Lord and Savior and I would die defending that belief. All the muslims are going to succeed in doing, as far as most (I hope) Christians are concerned, is make Christians stand up for their beliefs and tell the muslims to go to hell!!!

    • alpha-lemming

      What’s the difference between a radical Muslim and radical Christian?

      My response would be…. “the radical Christian is the one who shoots and abortion doctor”. NEVER heard anybody defend a nut of this caliber. Since main-stream Muslims (50%+) believe “situations exist where suicide-bombing is an appropriate civil action”, the radical (read…in the minority) Muslim would be the one who says “suicide-bombing should NEVER be employed”.

      So… the answer to what’s the difference?? How about the mind-set.

  • Angel Wannabe

    I’m with you, John Myers, Quite frankly I don’t care who you worship, Buddhist, Muslim, or if your an atheist. As for me, I’m a little tired of being treated as if I’m a leper, because I’m a Christian. Right or Wrong, people OF ALL FAITHS come here to America to be FREE, fine then, do it!__But don’t expect to come from a foreign land to live here, and then attempt to take it over and expect the NATIVES NOT to be restless. That Ain’t gonna happen!_If Muslims can pray 5 times a day anywhere they damned well please, then my wishing someone a Merry Christmas or a Happy Easter, should be accepted as a gesture of good will! This notion of Christians taking a back seat, in a predominantly Christian nation, is ABSURD & OUTREGEOUS! I never stood for it, and can’t see myself standing for it, any time soon either!

    • TJAndrews

      I have NEVER heard of any moderate Muslim in the U.S. saying/suggesting in any way that they want to “take over” our country. And, yes, you may wish anyone a Merry Christmas if you want, and you may pray as many times a day as you want, just like anyone else in this country, including Muslims. You all need to get some hobbies or something instead of being hysterical and “seeing” a radical Muslim who wants to kill you under everybodys bed. For goodness sakes, it’s like the McCarthy era all over again. By the way, to the person who mentioned that in the Quoran a women is inferior to a man, that is in the bible too.

      • e. nies

        If you are so smart and know it all, you may want to read the New Testament (maybe even study it) and find out that that changed over 2000 years ago by Jesus!!!!

      • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

        When a strident minority tries to change our buildings, impose Shariah law, perform honor killings, and fails to publicly protest the jihad, some of us ignore it, and some of us don’t.

      • Bruce D.

        TJAndrews says:

        I have NEVER heard of any moderate Muslim in the U.S. saying suggesting in any way that they want to “take over” our country.

        TJAndrews, you might want to go to You tube and take a look. So called moderate non violent Muslims claim they will have a Muslim President in the United States by the year 2050 and will at that time impose Sharia Law. You cannot hide from it and pretend it does not exist. It is their goal and it is not going away. I wish it was not so also. Even the socalled moderate Imam “has an in your face attitude”. Blaming America for Muslim problems.

      • Sapphira Sez

        Bruce, the muslims don’t have to wait until 2050 for a muslim president of the US. They have one now.

      • Angel Wannabe

        SS, at’s what I’m sayin’!

      • Conservative at Birth

        I think he meant openly Muslim.,

      • Bruce D.

        I though about that but decided not to say it.

      • JC

        Oh so true.

      • Jerry D

        You need to get your head out of the sand (most of which is in Muslim hands). Muslim leaders want a world wide caliphate, which means that Muslims want to rule the world for Allah. In my opinion, we should consider this as a threat to our national security and shut down all Muslim immigration to our country.

      • Conservative at Birth

        Deport all Muslims immediately.

      • C Schutz

        I’m VERY tired of being told that wishing someone Merry Christmas or Happy easter is wrong because it may offend some people. Send ALL the muslims back to their own country. Let us again say the Pledge of Allegiance in our classrooms and also have Christmas carols sung at Christmas pagents.

      • JC

        How many Muslin’s do you truely know as a great friend? You will not hear aa Muslim say a word. Do you think that they would go about spouting their beliefs or what their directives are? Just like having an American friend and then finding out they are having an affair or did something not on the up and up. People will not share things that they don’t want you to know. The proof is in the pudding. I guess you didn’t didn’t give a d… or remember that it was radical Islam Muslim’s that killed almost 3000 people in the Twin Towers. Yes, those of us who do remember have a right to be upset. And yes, the Bible does say that women were a bit backseat to men, but not on the same level that of abuse that the women of the Quaran have made them as being inferior. The big difference is that they practice it with the killing of a women if disobedient to their master, we in America do not.

      • Angel Wannabe

        TJ, . I believe this President walks on eggshells concerning the Muslim, is because he is one! America was built on Christian values, it’s wholly inadequate Government for anything else. The Bible gave us morals and guidelines for life. If you don’t beleieve in God or his teachings, then you obviously have to make up your own rules. NOW< I don't happen to think all atheists and other faiths are bad people, but I don't think they have anymore right to stop Christians from our worship, prayer or Having Nativity Scenes at Christmas, anymore than we have the right to demand that they believe in God!–But it's obvious, that most people suck at making up they're own rules!

      • Larry Owens

        OK I see lets be nice and hope they don’t cut our heads off.
        after all we don’t want to hurt their feelings. What a Joke.

      • http://Google ProudChicagoan

        TJAndrews – alright Bible scholar – does it say anywhere in the Bible that a man can beat his wife if he wants? It does in the Koran. And that comment about not hearing any muslim say they want to take over the country – of course you won’t hear it!!! Then, people like you who want to keep burying his head like an ostrich would have to believe it!!! Instead of trying to placate yourself into believing everything is alright, start thinking for yourself before it is too late. And, yes, all you atheists out there who think this is a “Christian” problem – the muslims will not give you a pass. The koran says all “non-believers”!!!

      • Gene

        TJ Andrews,
        You must have your head up your ass.

      • Karolyn

        Good point about the mcCarthy era.

    • Larry Owens

      AMEN to your post.

  • Neil

    They have done the same in Kashmir… massacred and drove away the Kashmiri Hindu Pandits. West and the worlds thinks Kashmir is and was a Muslim populated state, it was once inhabited by Hindu Pandits… Indian Media and liberal government fail to even talk about this.
    Centuries ago they have done that to Afghanistan (Hindu Kush).
    They are doing it to Europe now.
    They will do it to America and the rest of the world.
    Liberal governments (for political, natural resources like oil, fear of retribution from Muslim world or whatever), Liberal non Muslims (failing to realize the true nature of Islam and its History) are just screwing up their and their future generations lives.
    Islam and Muslims are more dangerous than all of the following put together…..Global Warming, Communism (domino effect that West feared until the end of cold war), North Korea, China, Outsourcing, Illegal Immigrants from South America, Unemployment………………………
    The common statement and response to these arguments …. “90 or more % of Muslims are peace loving… blah blah…” They are more dangerous than the 10% … because…

    1. They WONT protest against the 10%
    2. They WONT get together and protest against killing of those who criticize Islam
    3. They WONT get together and protest against killing or death threats to those who dare to depict Mohammed (seriously??…… not even cartoons, animations???) What happened to the freedom of speech and expression? why don’t you fight and protest for them??
    4. They WONT get together and protest against Jihad
    5. They get together and protest for their freedom, fundamental rights (in the non Muslim countries), call others racists, bigots…..
    6. They are the spreading force of Islam and muslim population drivers

    • Gul

      Thank you Neil for pointing out the problem about Kashmir. This is not only true about Kashmir but for over 600 years they (Muslims) killed, forced conversion upon and pillaged Hindu homes in India. What most people don’t know is that the Eastern Afghanistan area was part of Hindu India; Pakistan & Bangladesh were carved out of India in 1947 and many Hindu refugees suffered and are still today suffering because of the policies of secular democratic policies in India. France and other European countries are finally waking up to the evergrowing cancer of Muslim expansionism and under Presidents Carter through Obama the USA has seen this spread to the USA. I agree with Mr. Myers except I would say that every non-Muslim has a target on their backs. I good website to see the expansion of Islam by wars is
      http://www.mapsofwar.com/ind/history-of-religion.html
      and I would urge everyone to visit this website and see the history.

  • http://www.ae911truth.org republic4all

    Dr. Alen Sabrosky, Dr. David Chandler, Dr. Shlomo Sands, Dr July Woods.

    The above are the names of but a few unquestionably qualified minds that represent THOUSANDS of equally qualified professionals that declare” All of this islamophobia has been created by design as a smokescreen ”
    What is being hidden in plain view? We have NOTHING to fear from muslims and everything to fear from neo-con zionist agendas that have infiltrated our government for the benefit of zionist agendas.

    My fellow Americans, we have been massively deceived and it is time to awaken from our national stupper.

    For every islamic negative the are equal amounts of the same negatives in every other holy book. Do not fall for this ages old false flag op.

    To wake up, we as a country must ask ourselves? What brought down WTC7 on 9/11? Why did this 47 story skyscraper suddenly collapse without the laws of physics supporting the official NIST cause? Answer this without politics in the way.. then follow the money… then identify the truth THEN lets talk about expelling from our country all of those the an America Second agenda.

    republic4all

    • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

      The problem for you is:

      Actions such as… stonings, beheadings, subjegation of women, killing unbelievers, and educating young muslims to hate the United States…all speak louder than your words.

      • David

        That’s correct. This country was founded on judeo-christian values. A single country can not support multi-cultures. Obviously….look around. We will not bow down and for every tea party member you see out there; there are thousands of true Americans that side with them. When the time comes we will not just hand over our country.

      • Karolyn

        Why can’t a single country the size of the US not support multi-cultures? It always has before.

      • Robert Wayne

        Because those other “cultures” like the raghead muslims and the invading wetbacks from Mexico are here to destroy this country and those of us who were here before them. Only you retarded liberal fools think we can all live together. Well, we can’t. It’s impossible. You’re either on their side, which it’s obvious YOU are, or you’re on the side of Americans.

      • Joyce from Loris

        No, it hasn’t.

      • Viktor Leben

        Hey Robert Wayne,

        I’ll stick to the American side, your side can go to H, E, double toothpicks !

      • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

        Karolyn-

        Americans are fine with other cultures when they play for the home team and assimilate. When they try to remake the country in their image, you have the problems we are discussing. Unfortunately, there are too many people who use the gift of being an American to kick America in the face.

      • Karolyn

        Allan – When the Eastern Europeans came here in the early 20th century, they did not assimilate very well. They had their own communities and built their own churches. Yes, eventually, they did assimilate, but my grandmother never learned how to speak English. And she never did because she lived around all Polish people and my father and his brothers all spoke Polish. Yes, after a while, they did blend in, but some of those communities still exist in cities like New York.

      • Jana

        But karolyn,
        Your grandmother’s community was not trying to make us change to be like them. They did not threaten to destroy us or take us over.

      • http://MSM.com LeRoy

        You are right. The person that thinks we are just yelling wolf just have their haeds in the sand or they are trying to distract the people so these muslims can get a better foot hold in this country! The thing they do every day tells me who they realy are. Who would teach their kids that they are to hate everyone that don’t believe the way they do and teach them to blow up a bunch of people and they will be rewarded.

    • http://personalliberty.com bruce

      You may all have Dr. after your names but you are obviosliy not too bright first the world trade center towers were 107 stories tall not 47 stories tall and second the reason the towers fell was because the planes that were hijacked were selected because they would have a full load of jet fuel on board and therefore do the most damage. The towers fell because the steel skeleton melted due to the fact that jet fuel burns at a very high temperature once the steel stared to melt gravity did the rest and the reason WTC7 fell is that the towers kind of fell on it it did not fall the same way that the twin towers fell.
      So pull your heads out of you collective A**es and wake up to the fact that True ardent believers of the Muslim faith want to kill all non believers!! and subvert all to sharia law.
      One more thing all you female doctors would never be allowed to become doctors in a Muslim controlled society!

      • Karolyn

        That is not true in many Muslim countries. Women doctors, politicians and business people are seen on the news every day. You can’t keep a good woman down.

      • http://MSM.com LeRoy

        No you can’t keep a good woman down but you can be killed if your husban dies and you start seeing another man.

      • Karolyn

        You also can slapped down in the good ole boy state of South Carolina. SC has one of the highest if not the highest rates of domestic violence in the country; and what’s worse is that small time cops in little towns don’t even enforce the law. The just look the other way in support of their lowlife good ole’ boys.

      • Karolyn

        And, you know, it’s all because of MEN!- As are all the troubles of the world.

      • Jana

        Karolyn,
        I am sorry if you have had some bad experiences with men. Not all men are bad, just like not all Muslims are bad. Individually they are nice people just misguided.
        I was very fortunate that I found a wonderful man that I have great respect for and he for me. My precious husband. We have both found that if we give 100% we can never outgive each other.
        Sometimes when we work around that atmosphere, we think that is all thats out there. But it isn’t so.

      • Karolyn

        But, Jana, don’t you feel that if women ruled the world, it would be a much better place?

      • Jana

        No Karolyn, I don’t. It wouldn’t be any different.

      • Claire

        Jana–You are correct. It wouldn’t be any different.

      • libertytrain

        Claire – there was a time a few years back – maybe several years back that I would have thought differently but I believe you and Jana are probably correct.

    • e. nies

      You may be educated(all the Dr’s) but your writing is so convoluted that it is at best difficult to understand (Yes, I am well educated with more course work than you, probably. The message I get is the usual liberal drivel that emulates what our fearless, bow down to Arabs is doing. Wake up and smell the coffee!!

    • S.C.Murf

      Our Christian Bible, that was written how many years ago?, talks about the muslims are coming. Lowell Lundstrom, a preacher from Siseton S.D. wrote a book some 25 years ago, took info right from the bible, titled it The Muslims are coming The Muslims are coming. You should read this, its what Jesus said, not man. It might open your eyes, but then again most likely not since your mind is already made up and your heart is hardened.

    • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

      The problem for you is:

      Actions such as… stonings, beheadings, subjegation of women, killing unbelievers, and educating US muslim students to hate the United States…all speak louder than your words.

    • Bruce D.

      republic4all,

      ” All of this islamophobia has been created by design as a smokescreen ”
      What is being hidden in plain view? We have NOTHING to fear from muslims…

      republic4all, what planet do you live on? Even in the South of Thailand above Maylasia Muslims have killed over 4,000 Thais since 2004. They want to impose Sharia Law in the area and are willing to kill school children to do it because the school system does not embrace their culture. They are averaging one kill a day at this time.

    • Artie

      Not just WTC7!! All three WTC buildings fell at near freefall speed, which, if you understand the laws of physics, is only possible if there is no resistance below. Those buildings fell in 10 seconds, 8 seconds and WTC7, 6.6 seconds. The laws of physics do not lie!! The only rationale conclusion is that these building were felled by controlled demolitions. There is no other possible way for these buildings to have fallen at near freefall speed. It is that simple!! 9/11 was an inside job!! You can’t get around the laws of physics!! Nevermind the nanothermite residue found in the dust of all three, completely pulverized buildings. That is just the icing on the cake. Why has there not been a new investigation? What is the gov’t frightened of? Regarding the intolerance toward’s Islam, this country didn’t have it prior to 9/11. You are simply indicting an entire religion over the alleged actions of a few. Every religion has a radical element! And there is plenty of violence in the Old Testament, as well as the Quran! People need to start exercising their brains instead of being fed propaganda from the mainstream media. BTW, did anyone ever wonder why the Florida preacher made international headlines?? Weren’t his planned actions dangerous to national security and for the troops in the Middle East? And yet, the elite’s, who own the mainstream media, greenlighted this story. They wanted it out there, to remind America of the awful terrorist’s. This was pure and simple, a Psyop!!

      • Craig

        Wow another idiot twoofer regurgitating ignorance. None of the buildings broke any laws of physics. and no they did not fall at freefall speeds.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLShZOvxVe4&feature=related

      • Artie

        You know what? Somewhere in your misguided mind, people who are seeking out the truth, “truther’s” as you put it, are denigrated for asking questions! How do you explain 2 110 story buildings being reduced to dust in 8 seconds flat? What is it about the fact that the buildings fell too fast that escapes your mind? If we are “truther’s” then I guess we will have to label you as “ignoramuses”! Since when is getting at the truth, a repugnant thing to do? The two main towers fell in 8 seconds and 10 seconds! Those are facts!! How long would it take a tennis ball, dropped off the roof of one of those towers, to hit the ground? Approximately 8 seconds. Did that tennis ball meet any resistance except air? No!! Stop denying the obvious and open your eyes!! Better yet, you explain to me how tons of physical mass can just collapse to the ground in 8 seconds, leaving only dust and steel beams! Pancake theory, as the gov’t says? Would have taken over a minute, you would have had about a 110 foot pile of floors stacked upon each other and the steel inner framework would have remained standing! But you got all the answers right? You don’t see it because you don’t want to see it!!

      • Gene

        Atie,
        What is the point you’re trying to make.

      • Gene

        Artie,
        Sorry for misspelling your name.

      • Right Wing

        Artie there is plenty of factual information which refutes the physics logic you are leaning on. In fact if the “facts” you are leaning on are all that supports you conclusion then your point just collapsed at free fall speed. Maybe you are another Luddite or Doc Sarvis but your point is not so salient; especially if you are trying to support some sort of persecution of “innocent” Muslims.

      • Craig

        Those idiot twoofers are not seeking any truth. They are too stupid to find it if sat on their face. Your facts are wrong. Those buildings were not reduced to dust. Millions of tons of debris had to be trucked out. It did not take 8 seconds for those building to fall. That is physically impossible. 9.22 seconds is the freefall speed for those buildings. The actual times were closer to 15 and 22 seconds. So you are doing nothing but repeating ignorant lies from the twoofer morons. You twoofer like to pretend you are doing some great honorable thing by asking questions. But when you questions are analyzed it is clear you are too ignorant to understand the facts. Every single claim you retards come up with has been debunked.

      • Artie

        BTW, I watched your Youtube video! Three different sources, three different times for collapse. And this is supposed to DEBUNK this? Note, I said NEAR freefall speed, not freefall speed. And still, the buildings would have taken over a minute to fall, using the pancake theory! You just debunked your own source!! You can throw alot of, in the neighborhood of near freefall speed at me, but even with your sources numbers, it is still impossible!! When a building pancakes, there is a momentary pause at EACH FLOOR, as the energy collapses each individual floor. You cannot have your pancake and eat it too! It is impossible to have a pancake effect along with totally pulverized concrete!! You are arguing with the laws of physics, which don’t lie!! I rest my case!!

      • mark

        The world trade centres did not pancake as they were way too heavy for that to happen, your imagining a small block of units with not much weight but 107 stories of solid concrete helps.
        Dont take a job building bridges

      • Michael J.

        Artie,
        I’m not going to call you the “T” word because it obviously affends you however,the logistics of what you propose is impossible. It takes months to prep a building, let alone three buildings the size of the towers and building #7. You must first expose multiple steel girders on all floors which are buried behind drywall, concrete, electrical conduit, A/C duct work and a myriad of other obstacles. Jack hammers, circular saws, cutting torches and other noisy tools. Debri must be removed by a small army of sweaty, hard hat wearing construction workers pushing wheel barrows on a road built of Thermoply or cardboard site protection materials to the awaiting dumpster. And you think nobody would notice this going on?

        Add to that the fact that fireproof coating was removed from the steel girders by the impact of the plane. Also consider that jet fuel burns at 2000 degrees while steel melts at 1700 degrees and you have the recipe for what we all watched on TV.

        Having said all this, I will add that you also have the inalienable right to beleive that Bush piloted one plane while Cheney piloted the other and both parachuted to safety just prior to impact and Armstrong and Aldren really landed on a movie set in Arizona.

      • Craig

        You twoofers idiotic claims have been debunked for years, fool. You liked and said they fell in 8 seconds. NEAR freefall can mean 15 and 22 seconds. So by definition the towers could have collapsed at near freefall speeds. That video just shows how ignorant you twoofers are. You moron have no clue of the science you try to use to make you all sound like you know more than you do, which is jack. As far as you impossible pancaking, you have no clue what so ever. Your idiotic assertion that there is a momentary pause is meaningless. How much is momentary? And with each floor collapsing it as weight to the next, so on and so on…etc. Thereby reducing your momentary. you see you are too stupid to even know what you are talking about. You just regurgitate words you heard from other idiot twoofers. You do not have the brains to understand the science behind what you are trying (failing miserably I might add) to rail against. Got news for you, idiot, the laws of physics are not on your side, and I hope you are not a lawyer because you can’t even get a good case started let alone win one.

      • Viktor Leben

        Show me the math …

      • Karolyn

        Did you not see the way they fell?

      • Conservative at Birth

        Ignorance is bliss.

      • Danny Buckles

        Artie you are either a muslim or the bigest idiot I have ever witnessed in my life.

      • Artie

        I would expect such a response from you! My point is very simple! You people don’t have the intelligence to understand the science of physics. You all sound like a bunch of redneck’s who just follow the crowd! Most of you can’t spell simple words. BTW, the south “seceded” from the Union, not “succeeded”!! You are full of hate and you blindly follow the government dictates, no questions asked!

        The point that I am trying to impress upon your closed mind’s is that the evidence at ground zero proves that the WTC Tower’s and WTC7 were controlled demolition’s! You totally discredit the laws of physics and you refuse to even affirm that there was both deposits of nanothermite and the fingerprint of burned nanothermite element’s in the dust of all three WTC buildings that fell to the ground in mere seconds! The speed of the building collapses proves controlled demolitions and the evidence in the dust proves that nanothermite was in all three of those buildings. But, you all are so hell bent on blaming Muslim’s, the gov’t patsies for 9/11, that you can’t even see the evidence that is right before your very eyes. With the exception of a few people here, most of you are intolerant hater’s with backwood’s mentality! You are probably amongst the crowd of idiots that are shouting “Bomb Iran!!!”. You guys ignore evidence and have a heard mentality! You are bandwagon jumper’s because you don’t have the intellectual skills to think for yourselves. You are follower’s, not leader’s! You have an inability to recognize consequences for your own action’s! So you all think that these wars are so glorious, why don’t you get off your safe little couches and put your money where your mouth is. You agree with these war’s, based upon lies and deceit? Fine, you talk the talk, let’s see you walk the walk! Go enlist in the Army and put your lives on the line. Or better yet, send your kids or your grandkid’s over there to fight for your “moral” war’s! You are small minded, unintelligent, stupid people who wouldn’t stray from your own warped beliefs, based upon hate and lies, if the truth was hanging right before your very eyes. You are like owls, the more light that is shined on you, the less you see!! It is people like you who are going to destroy this country, not people who follow a different religion than you. A religion that you probably don’t even have a clue about. You just hear whatever your you are told to believe and then parrot whatever they say! You have no critical thinking skills, just follow the crowd!! What do I have? I have hard evidence and science to back up my assertions about 9/11! You have propaganda, which you blindly accept, no questions asked! There is a term for people like you. That term is “sheople”!! Follow the leader, don’t ask questions, don’t do research, don’t look at the evidence! And yes, this is coming right from the mouth of you people deride as a “truther”, or in your uneducated minds, a “twoofer”! It’s amazing how you can denigrate a group of people who are actually trying to get to the TRUTH! Yes I am a seeker of the truth! I do my homework, I do my research, I look at the evidence and postulate my own opinion based on that evidence! If that is something to be ashamed of, then I stand guilty as charged! Did it ever occur to any of you that the government lies, on a regular basis? You attempt to debunk solid scientific evidence because it doesn’t suit your own agenda’s. Agenda’s that really aren’t your own, but rather, the agenda’s of the people that you follow! One of you tried to debunk the physic’s of the tower collapses, with a Youtube video. All he managed to do was debunk his own source. But don’t worry, we have you covered. We will make sure that you all keep sight of your shepherd’s as they lead you to slaughter!! Debunk that!!

      • slickporsche

        It seems to me you are another conspiracy nut case. DId you ever think that if it was brought down using demolition techniques, that the Muslims could still be behind it?? WHy do you want so badly, to believe it was your own government, that did this awful deed?

        You know what Artie? I think the truth is that you are confined to a rubber room and allowed to get out and use the computer once a week, in a secure area of the facility you are locked up in. They allow this if you behave and take all your meds without a fight. This must be the real truth.

      • BeCoolArtie

        Hey, man. I agree with you, but don’t lose your cool. Remember, and you said it, they suffer a herd mentality. (Not heard, okay?) Like, man, the’re a bunch of cows.

      • Craig

        “I would expect such a response from you! My point is very simple! You people don’t have the intelligence to understand the science of physics.”

        This coming from someone who has at best a remedial understanding of physics. Got news for Beavis, you learned your physics from other twoofers, and they know absolutely nothing about it beyond how to spell it.

      • Artie

        @BeCoolArtie — Yes, herd is the correct spelling. I just caught that typo myself when I re-read this today! Gives you an idea of how frustrated i am at these hater’s! I have just reached a point of complete and utter disgust at the level of hate that is being spewed on this thread.

        These people are so full of hate that they can’t see the obvious! Most of you people claim to be Christian’s, yet you preach hate and intolerance. Christianity is not a “church”, it is a relationship between you, God and Jesus. You denigrate and stand in judgment of a religion that you were taught to hate. Being a Christian is a 24/7 proposition, not a selective mindset that you can turn off and on at your whim. Christian’s do not hate! But I am not going to go off on a dissertation about what Christianity is all about. If you are claiming to be Christian’s, then I suggest that you look in the mirror and ask yourselves, “Am I acting in a Christian manner?”

        @SlickPorsche — You said “It seems to me you are another conspiracy nut case. DId you ever think that if it was brought down using demolition techniques, that the Muslims could still be behind it?? WHy do you want so badly, to believe it was your own government, that did this awful deed?”

        First of all, you start out, as usual, with the worn out tactic of calling me a “conspiracy nutcase”! Wow, how original and unexpected!! But then you, apparently, incorporate my conclusion of controlled demolitions, probably because it makes sense to you, but you then postulate that the Muslim’s could have demolished the buildings! Do you have any idea of which agencies had offices in WTC7? WTC7 housed offices of FBI, Department of Defense, IRS, US Secret Service, Securities & Exchange Commission, Citibank’s Salomon Smith Barney, the Mayor’s Office of Emergency Management and many other financial institutions. Are you going to tell me that Muslim terrorist’s were able to sneak into this very secure building, and plant explosives? As a matter of fact, you can not obtain nanothermite on the street. It is only in the hand’s of the military! You really give alot of credit to these alleged hijacker’s. They, reportedly, could not even fly a Cessna, but could pull off amazing stunts in a 757, they can gain access to nanothermite and then breech security in all three WTC buildings that fell! Yeah, these guys sure were accomplished at so many things that they had no experience with!

        I am not going to waste any more of my time talking to you people because you don’t have the intellect or intelligence to think for yourselves. No one is going to change your mind’s so go ahead and spew your rhetoric!! I have better things to do with my time!

      • Viktor Leben

        Probably a combination of explosives on the airliner and charges set in the building. The high temperatures suggest a self contained firestorm in the epicenter of WTC tower 1 & 2 causing thermionic degradation of the structural steel welds -aka the explosions ….

        You can’t explain the physics with conventional means. This was a physical phenomena that defies precise explanation – until enough of the facts are in. But their is enough evidence to suggest that “9-11 was an inside job” …

        The aircraft had explosives in them, plus the fuel …..

        Positive arc traveling thru a crystalline structure will cause an explosion … aka the steel welds exploding …

        Pulverized concrete suggest pre set explosives …..

        It was an inside job ….

      • Viktor Leben

        They used a small tactical nuke on each of the WTC towers. Probably less than a kiloton …Blast specific .. low gamma radiation. Did anybody test the structural steel for radiation exposure ?

      • libertytrain

        Well if it was an “inside” job why couldn’t it have been possible that there were more terrorists setting the charges inside the building(s) and airport workers who were also terrorists placing bombs in all the planes – if your theory is that there were additional explosives/bombs in both the buildings and planes, and for that matter the other buildings that went down that some here claim only went down because they too had explosives in them —- Perhaps these terrorists were looking for a bigger punch than just the World Trade Towers -

      • Troy

        I think you need to look in the mirror. You lay in the bed of propaganda. Have you come to these conclusions or are you spewing someone elses theroies about what happened; maybe Micheal Moores. Have you ever done and physics research. I highly question that idea. Bye the way, the Main Stream Media had the story of the preacher wide open because they have an agenda to prove to everyone that the Christian believer is wacko or something. I will be the first to say that that preacher’s ploy was stupid. However, like not all Muslims are the radicals, he does not represent all Christians. The point is you see all over the world, if you take your head out of the sand, the Muslims are using force to conquer societies. They start out with peaceful gathering, usually, but at some point their mullas who hold radical views come in and motivate those hardline believers to step out of peaceful measures into voilent force to subject others who are non-believers of their faith; once they see that their numbers (population) large enough to fill safe. This is something that their religion teaches as well. I am all for peaceful standing with anyone who projects a true stance of peace, but it does not look to me like peace is the cause. They have stated over and over again that their goal is to place the whole world unde the rule of Islam. Populate by through peaceful measure then subjugate by force. I have little pitty for people like you who have their head so far in the sand that they are blinded by propaganda of political correctness and esponse to others to wake up from propaganda. Look in the mirror my friend.

      • Karolyn

        “They, they, they” Who is this ubiquitous “they”.

      • Troy

        The first they was referring to the Media, which was stated in the sentence preceeding it. The second they refers to who I was talking about in its previous sentenses; the Muslims. And the third they again belongs to the Muslims who I have continued writing about. How did you miss that? It was clearly wrote. Or were you just trying to prod at me?

      • Karolyn

        Troy – You miss my point, which is you cannot generalize about much of anything and group everybody into “they.”

      • Troy

        Here is another thought for you. What is it that people are so dismissive of any Anecdote, Theory, or Opinion, as being anything but truth simply because the person(s) espousing the message has a title or Dr, Specialist, or Expert in front of their name. People have been for too long subjected to crap by that very measure. Our society was its strongest when people actually researched for their own conclusions rather than just taking the work of someone who is supposed to be more educated. What a zombie way to live. The last few generations of American society have produced way too many zombies. It is time for you, and all others who live this way to wake up. Different subject but for all you out their who speak of being a Christian believer and then live like non-believers. I would rather you just kept your mouths shut because you are a poor example of the image of Christ which is exactly what you are supposed to project as a believer. That is why so many people who turn their noses to the Christian Faith. Why would anyone want to be a part of any Hipocriticle group of individuals. For those who do not like the Christian Faith, meat a person who walks the walk rather than talks the talk and then make your decision. None are perfect, but there are too many who have it way off.

      • Karolyn

        What about the people here who don’t want to even listen or hear if there are letters after somebody’s name. What’s up with that?

      • Jana

        Karolyn, Go back and read the guy’s post that stated that all of these Dr. Somebody’s had proved his point. Then you will know what was being talked about.

      • Karolyn

        No, Jana, I got what he said. I’m just saying that just BECAUSE somebody has a ph.d. or whatever is no reason NOT to hear him out. I’m all for self-education.

      • http://MSM.com LeRoy

        You are a muslim lover and should go back under the rock you came from. Do you think these plans were run into the twin towers by Americans? Muslims are the ones that think they will be rewarded if they kill a bunch of people along with themselves- American people don’t think that way-do you?

      • slickporsche

        You are simply a frikken nut case and should think before you open your yap. I watched it all live on TV and I can say it did not happen that quickly. If you take a look at the construction of those towers, you can see what would happen, if you destroyed one of the upper floors. I rememeber it like it was yesterday, and one floor was burning and finally fell to the floor beneath it, and nothing happened immediatly. It took a little time for the temperature to build and start another floor to weaken and then as it went it fell to the next, and accelerated as it went to the ground. Of course you should also know that in Malaysia, there is two more buildings from the same architect and built the same. Now do you think it possible that those two towers could have been heavily inspected by Muslim engineers and a way found to bring them down. After all, Malaysia is a Muslim country. You should convert to Islam and then we will have a really good reason to kill you.

      • Lewis Munn

        Artie…where did you learn religion?

        The “Old Testament” is mostly the history of the Jews, and an abbreviated history leading up to them. It is NOT Christianity. Tho it supports Christianity in how it developed, and showed that the Jews are quick to forget God!

        Christianity starts with the Birth of Jesus, and especially encompasses His life, and His teachings, and the amplifications and revelations of the future in the New Testament, so we know what will be happening when it comes. It tells of the world having tossed Christianity out, and how bad it gets then.

        I do get very very tired of people expounding on Christianity who have no idea what it is, is not, and encompasses. Just like folks who have not dipped into the Qur’an, or read history, so talk so learnedly of what they know not!

        I am always amazed of the women who think a beating with a rod the size of the man’s thumb is gentle chastisement! It is so gentle it can easily kill!

        But in Islaam, the woman is much less than the man. Her job is to pleasure him and raise the kids. And he can kick her out for any or no reason, in many areas. Funny so many women think Islaam is a good, easy life.

    • Jerry D

      What planet are you from?

    • Stevo

      –, you anti semite piece of —.

      • Karolyn

        What’s the different between anti-semite and anti-muslim? They both signify ignorance.

      • Michael J.

        Karolyn,
        Indeed, synonymous with anti-American I suppose.

      • http://MSM.com LeRoy

        Karolyn- Like the rest of these anti-American people go back to a muslim country where you came from!!!

      • slickporsche

        Karolyn you are anti-american and should be booted from this country and sent to a Muslim hell hole.

      • Karolyn

        Just because I disagree with you. Such a shame that there are so many of you in this country. I’m happy to live in the woods and not be directly subjected to the deranged thinking I see here.

      • Viktor Leben

        Hey Karolyn,

        The liberals and conservatives are from the same cloth. Do you see ? They both hate …

        It will all end when the baby boomers die off. Never has their been a more evil generation in American history …

        My apologies Karolyn to assume you would agree with me, maybe someday. I’m glad to read your comments, don’t ever stop being tolerant …

      • Karolyn

        Victor – I’m not spouting the same vitriol that I get from many of these foul-mouthed people. Unfortunately, some people bring out the worst in a person. I don’t hate anybody. Actually, I feel sorry for anybody who has to go around carrying so much baggage day in day out. For myself, I don’t like the way anger and hatred feels. As a matter of fact, I have never hated anybody in my whole life. And I am a baby-boomer. It would be interesting to find out the ages of the posters. I was enlightened during the 70s, and I know many who are just like me. We’re not all intolerant and ignorant. (And there’s nothing wrong with using the word ignorant. It just implies they don’t know any better.)

      • Viktor Leben

        Karolyn,

        Being anti-arab is also anti-semitic … you hit it right on the nose !

    • Craig

      Republic4all is a twoofer? That right there proves you are a nutter.

    • Conservative at Birth

      There have been numerous television programs refuting the claims made by the 9/11 Truthers. On that tuesday morning my wife was watching the live broadcast which had suggested a small plane had crashed into the first tower. I said that it had to be a large jet as there was too much fuel. Then I saw the second large jet crash into the second tower. I told my wife that both of those buildins would fall. Just exactly what do you think you know about physics.

    • Reno Rick

      You say you 4 are doctors!! Doctor’s of what? Certainly not drs of academia–your grammer is horrible. Maybe drs of Theology?? Probably not, you don’t write as though you have any intelligent grasp of religion. And most definitly not drs of Science or Medicine. So drs, what is your specialty? Maybe its stupidity!!!! I tell people all the time “I can live with or near a Muslim and not have a problem with their religion, however, they can not and will not live near me if I practice my Christian religion”. So drs tell me, who are the radicals here?

      • Karolyn

        I know people who live next to Muslims and are very good friends.

      • Michael J.

        Karolyn,
        And because they are friends, each day after work they would beheaded next door, right?

    • Bob

      Republic I agree with you 100%. I believe the plane that went down in Pa. was supposed to hit #7 but after it crashed they had to blow the building because the explosives had already been planted. How does a guy who leased the towers for only 6 months walk away with 6 billion dollars. The Port Authority who built the towers with taxpayer money got nothing. You think Larry Silverman knew what the plan was?

    • http://Google ProudChicagoan

      republic4all – “unquestionably qualified minds”??????? What makes these drs that? Because YOU prefer to believe that muslims are peace loving people? You would rather believe our own country and Israel are attacking us? Sorry. I do not see any proof of that theory; but, I have seen plenty of proof of muslims killing for their so-called belief. If you dare, watch “Fitna” by Theodore van Gogh (he was MURDERED by your peace-loving muslims) and “Submission” by Wilder (forgot his first name).

      • Bruce D.

        I agree. If there is one thing Obama has proved is that this is not all one big Jewish conspiracy. Most Progressive ideology comes from government universities with many Christian teachers in agreement with social justice ideology. President Obama’s black theology religoion is progressive, christian, and anti-American. Obama is the first president who has openly defied Israel and the Jewish voting block in this country. Many Jews are just as concerned as Christians in the direction Obama has taken the country. Most Progressives feel Obama is doing a good job but has not done enough to move the country to the left.

      • WhoYaGonnaBlame

        Let me get this straight. It’s not a Jewish elite. It’s not the Muslims. It’s not the … Does Bob know?

      • Bruce D.

        I do not think Bob does know. Take a look at all HFlashman’s comments and other Progressives. They support Muslims and oppose Israel. Same as Obama. I know all the conspiracy theories point to Jews but that is not the way it is playing out. You have to look at it realistically and not try to make your viewpoints conform to a book.

    • Bandit

      Who do you think you are bowing down to these bozos that want to chop our heads off. when was the last time read from their quoram misspelled on purpose because they want to ram their religion down our gullet all you have to do is to listen to what they say about this COUNTRY. They have said on many occasions that this COuntry will fall and all non believes will be destroyed period. They think that this COUNTRY is the great satin and their prez has this on the news on more than one time…….. Get a life get out and walk the streets and roads and listen to the people for a change instead of pulling things out of your nose…..

    • mark

      I th■”Martyrdom is therefore the ONLY way for a Muslim to obtain forgiveness of sins” Surat Al Tawbah 9:111.
      ■”Jihad (fighting for Allah’s cause) is ordained for you” Surat Al-Baqarah 2:216.
      ■”Kill the Mushrikun (non-Muslims); wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush” Surat Al-Taubah 9:5.
      ■”They (non-Muslims) shall be killed or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off from opposite sides, or be exiled from the land” Surat Al Maidah 5:33.
      ■”And if you are killed or die in the Way of Allah, forgiveness and mercy from Allah are far better than all that they amass” Surat Al Taubah 9:111.ink it is you who are trying to deceive by saying Islam is peaceful, read below

    • alpha-lemming

      Commentary on “the religion of peace”…. from “the most tolerant and open-minded” among us.

  • s c

    The Muslim faith and Christianity do share some common features. However, people need to realize that while media whores and anti-religious zealots continue to single out Christians as ‘dangerous,’ I’m not aware of any ‘Christian’ church or group that demands that others convert to Christianity or be decapitated.
    And, I’m not aware of any Christian group or church that uses pc techniques to muzzle their members. The Muslim ‘silent majority’ will eventually pay a high price for not standing up to their paranoid peers.
    If push comes to shove, Muslims risk much more than having their delicate sensibilities offended if they think Christians will bow to the whims of Muslims who claim mortal infallibility. There are no omniscient mortals, and no mortal can claim infallibility. Period.

    • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

      SC-
      I think Islam is “different” enough to atheists and anti-religious Americans that they equivocate about it. They don’t think of it as an obstacle to their “freedom from religion”. And they lump Muslims in with those oppressed by U.S. imperialism. We haven’t forgotten the media publishing sensitive information several times in the last few years that endangered troops and led to some injuries and/or deaths. But of course they view everything right-side up that we see upside-down.

      • Bill

        U.S. imperalism. That’s funny. If the United States is so bad then please inform the leaders of other countries to stop calling on the U.S. everytime they get their butts stuck in a crack. The United States has done more to help other countries around the world than any other country. They have poured out trillions of dollars to help other countries, thousands of Americans have died on the foreign battlefields to secure freedom for other countries when their leaders called for it. America has watched as thousands of so called men in foreign countries cowarded in terror at the thought they might have to pick-up a weapon and defend themselves. So please, do some research before putting your foot in your mouth.

      • slickporsche

        Bill I agree with you but you need to change one work in your post.
        “They” We have poured out trillions of dollars to help other countries. I changed “they” to WE meaning We the tax payers and US citizens. I am sure that is what you meant.

      • http://ahalbert@smart-technology.net Allan Halbert

        Did I need to put quotes around “U.S. Imperialism” so you understood that the term refers to the liberal worldview? Seeing the U.S. through an Imperialist lens is the basis of Obama’s worldwide apologies and the worldview of liberals and the U.N. (which we should stop subsidizing). This goes hand in hand with “white guilt”. People who harbor these neuroses also tend to disparage the military and the police.

    • Conservative at Birth

      There is no Muslim silent majority. It is a military cult. I have only read two books on the subject and many excerpts from the Quron. In my opinion it cannot be called a peaceful religion. I will be ready for the war with Islam in my back yard.

      • dan az

        consevative you and me both!

  • Jana

    we definitely have a problem here. It isn’t just Obama that is soft on Islam, it is just about any American person that has fallen for the politically correct dogma that has been forced down our throat. Bush was soft on Islam and so are many Christian pastors and parishioners as well as main stream America, that falsely think that this is a religion of peace.
    These are truly dangersous people and their intentions are evil toward any person that does not adhere to THEIR BELIEFS and THEIR WAYS. They intend to force themselves into every aspect of our lives and rule us. We must put a stop to it now, before it gets out of hand.

    • Michael J.

      Jana,
      You have hit the proverbial nail on the head when you mentioned political correctness. If you don’t already know, search and read the origins of “Political Correctness”. This supposedly benign favorite of all favorite liberal cliches was actually designed with sinister intent to hasten the fruition of communism.

    • Gene

      Jana,
      I agree with you whole heartly. If we don’t take a stand now, it will be too late. We will secum to the Muslim world.

      To start with, we need to get rid of the dam Muslim in office and all the other idiots in Washington that are too stupid to see what is happening to our country as well as the rest of the world.

    • Terry

      I feel all muslims should considered enemies of the state they will not denounce the actions of the radicals, how ever their mouths is an open sepulcher, with their tongues used deceit, the poison of asp is under their lips, whose mouthes is full of cursing and bitterness; their feet are swift to shed blood; disturction and misery are in their ways; the way of peace hav they not known; ther is no faer of God in their eyes. romans 4:13. be of good cheer, Jesus said the gates of hell shall not prevail.

    • Karolyn

      If you have not had a dialogue with Muslims, you really know nothing of them other than what you hear and read. I can say the same for myself, but at least I’m willing to listen to all sides. You want to make things worse in this country? Just keep thinking the way you do. Hate begets hate, violence begets violence and love, giving and understanding beget love, giving and understanding.

      • Jana

        Karolyn,
        I have had many dialogues with Muslims. I also study the Qur’an and the Sura’s. I am very aware of what I speak.
        The people themselves seem like very nice people, just like you seem like a very nice person.The Muslims and I just as you and I do not agree on ideologies, but Islam has a very evil intent.
        I have to go right now but I will be back tonight to talk some more, I am already running late for an appointment.

      • http://MSM.com LeRoy

        You sound like a wolf in sheeps clothing. When they are stoning you for nothing having your hands and feet cut off to. Go with them when we send them packing.

      • Right Wing

        Karolyn consider applying this logic to Polar bears. Why don’t you go to the nearest zoo, climb the fence and try to hug one. I am sure they are just as cuddly and kind as the Coca-Cola commercials led you to believe. In a few days they will find your Lenin style glasses and Bono fan club card in a big pile of bear crap.

      • Viktor Leben

        Hey Mr. Know it all,

        I thought Hitler was dead, now we have his clone ! Sieg Hiel Mr. Right Wing !

        Hey, You like picking on women ! You know what your problem is ? You went to the zoo to be with your baboon lover. She ripped your balls off and that’s why spew crap from your mouth ..

      • Right Wing

        You apparently fall into the same vein as Kremlin Karolyn. The bait and taunt routine. Apparently you were serious when you decided to threaten a soldier with your “frag’n” comment. I’m going to go ahead and avoid the Christmas rush and start loathing you now. Keep skulking around this site spouting your nonsense Vic. You are hereby relegated to the ineffectual mass of liberal, multicultural nut bags that stand for nothing and consequently fall for anything. Have a nice trip…see you next fall.

      • Jana

        Vikto,
        You have become a total GARBAGE MOUTH. you have declined further and further. Are you on drugs?

      • Viktor Leben

        Hey Right Wing,

        Wasn’t your car parked outside the Blue Oyster ? Mr. girly mouth, you better get those teeth checked – where’s that mouth been ? Hey, didn’t I see you on the news with Barney Franks ?

        I’ve just been to the “Kremlin” – I left you a Christmas present Ahole..

      • Viktor Leben

        Jana,

        Sorry if I offended you. I get this way sometimes.

        Hey – The veterans are just laughing, don’t worry about it. I’m sure the MSGT could heckle me back 100 times better … nothing serious Jana ! Just having fun !

        Wow, that “Right Wing” sure takes things to serious ! He has some good comments … He needs to loosen up !

      • Right Wing

        Vic I take my freedoms very seriously. I know many people who fought in, relatives who died in, were disabled in, lost there faculties because of, the wars. Anyone who has known a soldier and heard their stories or even thought of the sacrifices they laid on the alter of OUR freedom would be ashamed to call themselves an American if they disrespected these…OUR…heroes.

        Subsequently any American that picks up the torch dropped by Benedict Arnold deserves to be burned by it. This type of American is like a raccoon…craps on one side of the log and sleeps on the other. Consequently most raccoons carry distemper because of it…just like the liberal multiculturalists who embrace any culture without consideration to the facts they may be rife with distemper. I do not promote racial or cultural hatred…just caution. There is overwhelming evidence of cultural hatred and an unbending religious/political dogma associated with Islam. An enemy of the freedoms fought and won with the blood of my friends and family is worth preserving in the same fashion despite what the pansy liberals wish to classify as racist, murderous, nazi, confederate, biggoted, etc. What you weak minded and morally misguided government babies don’t get is that there are still people in this country who are willing to fight for all of OUR freedoms despite your candy-ass bitching and moaning. All your whining does is erode the effectiveness of our abilities to soldier because you cry foul at every facet of war you can not stomach. You can’t handle the truth.

      • Viktor Leben

        Right Wing,

        You’re just wrapping yourself in the flag so you can get laid… Right ?

    • slickporsche

      I am with you, where and when do you want to start. A solid plan needs to be developed. SOON!

  • Fed Up Gal in NM

    Oooops! Typo….the “than our country”…….should be “than other countries”. Well….just to correct before the “typo” police show up.

  • Fed Up Gal in NM

    What infuriates me is not enough of the “peaceful” non-radical Muslims in the USA are willing to speak up against the radicals. I’m at the point, where if they think we’re such a horrible people…why the heck do they wish to stay in our country? I used to believe they were just afraid….but I’m quickly approaching the I don’t care if you’re a peaceful Muslim and afraid to speak out against the radicals. You can leave with the rest of them now.

    No matter what some may say about this country, and understanding no country is perfect…..this country has done more for legal immigrants (and apparently for many illegal immigrants) than our country. So…again, if we’re so horrible, why keep coming here….if not to do us harm?

    I’m with John….sick and tired of worrying about what they’ll think of us anymore.

    • Tom

      Fed Up Gal in NM, first there are no moderate Muslims’. All Muslims subscribe to Islam and there is only one Islam, the one that believes in Sharia Law which wishes the destruction of western society. Second, they do no assimilate because their wish is conquest from within. They do not assimilate to our values, we assimilate to theirs. The goal, which is not hidden from anyone who cares to do any research, is a new caliphate. The ground zero mosque is a prime example; they are putting it there as a symbol of conquest, hence the Cordoba Center, read what the original Cordoba Mosque was.

      • Doc Sarvis

        There is a whole spectrum of Muslim belief just as there is with Christians. There are radical Muslims and radical Christians – moderate Muslims and moderate Christians and every stripe in between. Your assertion is a myth.
        Building a mosque in downtown NY city is far less objectionable than all the confederate flags one sees across this country (particularly in the south). That is a constant reminder of many American’s backwards view of human equality.

      • Jana

        Doc,
        Your statement shows that you do NOT know what you are talking about. You are being very naive and gullible in your thinking.

      • Doc Sarvis

        It is easy to talk me down but you provide nothing to prove me wrong.

      • Michael J.

        Doc Sarvis,
        We got it Doc, you hate America.

      • Doc Sarvis

        Michael J.
        It is because I love America so much that I stick my neck out to defend one of our founding principals, the freedom of religion. Hate, fear, and misinformation are all old and easy tricks to undermine the high values of our good country.

      • http://www.personalliberty.com J.Cruz

        Jana. I suggest that you, and everyone else that thinks like you, just simply READ THE KORAN YOURSELF!

      • Jana

        J. Cruz,
        I have been reading and studying the Qur’an myself. Have you? I am also studying the Bible.
        Read some of these posts J., and Doc. and they provide plenty of proof. Only a blind man who chooses not to see the truth would speak as you do.

      • Conservative at Birth

        Islam is backwards, I will cling to my bible, my guns, my constitution, and my values/traditions. If that makes me backwards, so be it. You are and ostrich, my friend, and I will pray for your soul.

      • J.M.R.

        well doc don’t come by my house, when the dummies elected this dick-tater wanna be i took down my american flag and replaced with the confederate flag and it will fly till the dick-tater is removed

      • sheilah

        The civil war had nothing to do with slavery if you are indeed thinking this. The civil war was over being taxed to death as our administration is doing now. Watch the movie “The Patriot” and you will better understand.

      • Doc Sarvis

        Ahh, history from a movie. The Patriot was about the Revolutionary War not the Civil War!

      • Bruce D.

        You are funny Sheilah. The Patriot was a good movie. In the Revolutionary War taxes were one part of many grieviances. The war was actually started over the Redcoat march to Lexington and Concord to confiscate weapons and amunition.

      • RLS

        Sheilah’s heart is in the right place, however, we have allowed our schools to stop teaching American History to our kids. It’s no wonder they use movies as examples.

      • wth

        The Civil war was indeed about money. But I wish you hadnt said “patriot”. You were on the right track unti then. Andfew Jackson knew that the world banksters(Jews) were death to us. They tried several times to kill him. The Zionists are in the driving seat now. Since they established a legal way to steal from us at Jekyll Island.(THE FED) Everybody is whining about Muslims. Hell they arent the problem. They didnt do 9-11. They didnt attack one of our ships(USS LIberty) They didnt do Lavon Affair. Learn how to read people.

      • Ron

        Sheila, sounds like you were home-schooled by someone who wanted to keep the truth from you. You need to take a look at history once again, but this time with an open mind.

      • Bob

        Doc The confederate flag doesn’t bother me because it doesn’t stand for slavery as some would like you to believe. The Muslims were brought over here for the same reason illegals are let in this country. To start a race war.

      • Doc Sarvis

        I would love to know the source of your “information”.

      • Michael J.

        Doc Sarvis,
        The fact of the matter is Doc, that the Emancipation Proclimation was a war time tactic designed to cut the legs out from under the southerners work force. If Lincoln’s intent was to free slaves, why is it that none above the Mason Dixon line were freed? And why is it that freed slaves who joined the Union Army were only paid half wages?

      • Kate8

        Bob, You are right about the intent to start a race war. The left has been fanning those flames since the days of MLK.

        It is just another aspect of the NWO agenda to create chaos everywhere, in every way possible. Then we will beg them to come in and establish order. Isn’t that their motto or something? ‘Order out of chaos”?

      • Cliffystones

        How about you explain just what is wrong with the Confederate flag? Oh, yeah. it represents all of those evil, slave owning, cross burning rednecks that you believe constitute a plurality of Southern Citizens.

        Well if you studied your history, the truth and not the liberal biased version, maybe you would understand why that flag is a symbol of honor to the real southerners. You know, the ones that got the major shaft from the north, that were burned out of their homes, raped, and murdered.

      • Doc Sarvis

        Burning, raping, and murdering occurred on both sides; as in most wars.

      • Bruce D.

        I side with the South in that war also. The South should have been allowed to succeed and we can no longer claim to be a free nation since then. But if what you say is true about the rape then all Southerners have Yankee blood in them.

      • Joyce from Loris

        I’m with you. By the way, if the South had won that war, OBAMA would not be president now! And the reason has NOTHING to do with the color of his skin, it is all about the nature of his SOUL.

      • alpha-lemming

        Hopefully, history will repeat itself. And when Tesas and other like-minded Constitutional states secede (from the oligarchy… much like the south did), they (we) will be called racist again. Not because we are, but because if you’re against wealth-redistribution, eternal welfare, and Kucinich style “businesses should be no-profit social programs”, that’s all a progressive, IQ in the mid 20s, mind can argue. Paraphrasing Van Jones a bit, but something akin to “Personal responsibility and self-sufficiency are the new code-words for racism”.

      • Ron

        No, the confederate flag represents how under-educated, stuck in the past people (not just from the south) can’t let history go. Nobody, who hasn’t been brainwashed in the belief that the history of the south is nothing but a continuum to today, even thinks a spec about the civil war one way or the other. Any thoughts of it other than interesting dusty old history are a waste of time, as are any of its symbols, flags included. We have only one flag in America.
        If the civil war is any more than “who gives a rat’s ass?!” you need to wake up and move into the 21st century.

      • Joyce from Loris

        You say that, Doc, because you are ignorant to the Southern people’s way of life. The southern people are not the only one’s who fly the Confederate Flag. They are also flown in the state of New York, Illinois, PA, CA, WY, KS, MD, the list goes on and on. Anyone who is offended by the Confederate Flag truly needs a history lesson, because that is all it’s about, history. It represents Country people all over the nation, you know, the people who farm and produce the food that you eat? The country people who prefer the sound of crickets in the evening to the bright lights of Broadway. That is all it represents. Country people all over the nation.

      • Angel Wannabe

        HUZZAH!__Joyce, well said!

      • http://Google ProudChicagoan

        Doc – I agree with Jana. You are being naive. How are these confederate flags hurting anyone? I do not see the people flying these flags threatening to kill people because they do not agree with this flag. Most people fly the confederate flag as a symbol of the SOUTH – anyone who takes offense is usually reading more into that flag than the person flying it intended. Whereas, the mosque in NYC is a VICTORY mosque, pure and simple. Cordoba? That was for victory over Spain by the muslims (forgot when). I, for one, am not afraid of the muslims; but, I really wish people like you would, at least, realize what the “radical” muslims are trying to do.

      • Doc Sarvis

        A mosque in NYC is a victory for America showing the world that we value our rights including the right to freedom of religion. Banning the mosque just shows the world how much we are just big scardy-cats.

      • Jana

        Doc,
        I am no propenent of burnin anything. But the Mosque known as Codoba House has a specific meaning.
        “Cordoba House” is a deliberately insulting term. It refers to Cordoba, Spain – the capital of Muslim conquerors who symbolized their victory over the Christian Spaniards by transforming a church there into the world’s third-largest mosque complex.

        Today, some of the Mosque’s backers insist this term is being used to “symbolize interfaith cooperation” when, in fact, every Islamist in the world recognizes Cordoba as a symbol of Islamic conquest. It is a sign of their contempt for Americans and their confidence in our historic ignorance that they would deliberately insult us this way.

      • Kate8

        Doc is another example of how the left tries to ‘shame’ us into allowing them to push forward with the destruction of America.

        This mosque is a clear a blatant affront to the American people and our culture. THE MUSLIMS LEADERS, THEMSELVES, HAVE TOLD US THIS. Yet, the left would have us ingore the truth and pretend everything is just peachy.

        The left is delivering us right into the hands of Islam and, ultimately, the NWO. When I say the ‘left’, I mean the progressives on both sides of the aisle.

        We must stand our ground. Their shame and ridicule must be ignored for the evil tactic that it is, and we can no longer allow them to use such things to deter us.

        There is a great truth about determining the future, personally or collectively, and that is: DO NOT LOOK AT WHERE YOU DON’T WANT TO GO. When we fill the void with our own thoughts, that is what becomes, whether it is something we want or not. When we leave the next moment open (without iserting our expectation), God can insert His Will into the void, and His Ways are always toward Love, Healing, Truth and Peace.

        Food for thought.

      • Sams3

        The reason people get offended by the confederate flag is because it is usually attatched to a pick up truck full of rednecks that say, and do bad things, and it is usually being flown at the homes of hillbillys that beat thier wives. The flag itself is not offending it is usually the people attatched to the end of it that are offensive. Next time you see that confederate look real close at who is usually flying it, and ask them what that flag means?

      • Bobber

        Doc: Islam is a religion of violence & oppression – in every muslim run country religious minorities are persecuted; even in “moderate” muslim countries such as Turkey. “Moderate” muslims are those who are just hiding their true colors until the time comes to strike. Appeasement is for those who preach Satan’s gospel of tolerance. We need to remember that God is 100% intolerant of false religions and false teachers. Islam is a disease, Christ is the cure.

      • Ginny

        Thank God! Someone who actually believes in absolute truth from the Scriptures. You are so right that God is intolerant of false gods, and false religions. Repeatedly the people of the Bible were told to destroy the idols of those false religions. Where are all you Bible believeing Christians to take a stand for God’s righteousness??

      • Lewis Munn

        I think we need to not build the new mosque, but reason a bit differently.

        When it is built, it will be an affront to our country for anyone who understands Muslim practices of the “victory” mosque. Some who are non-thinking will bomb it, probably successfully, with great loss of innocent life, if the plan for general use rooms beneath of a Muslim-only portion holds. But no matter how it is divided, the misguided will seek revenge and this will make America look much worse to a world that does not understand Islaam.

        We should not let it be built because it will attract the misguided, and the result will be to ruin America’s image to the rest of the world.

        Our best approach would be to deny the permits so there is not a center of attraction to ignorant violence. More open space would not be bad for the city anyhow. Call it a peace garden!

        Defuse the area by not putting up an attractive target for the ignorant. Make it a neutral park, with trees and flowers, maybe even edible berry bushes so city kids can learn of them!!

      • http://sicilankiss@yahoo.com sal

        uh whats up DOC?did u or did u not understand the part that islam DEMANDS,that muslims.convert,KILL or enslave all believers if not u r one dumb bunny and just as dangerous as the muslims,and of course u probally think that muslim treatment is o.k.,take ypur libtard self back to your rock and crawl back under SO SAYS I BIG SAL

      • Doc Sarvis

        And the Bible has the same sorts of scary dictates.

      • Michael J.

        Doc Sarvis,
        Show me where the Bible says to convert, kill or enslave non-belevers.

      • Karolyn

        Michael – You have to admit that the Old Testament has some pretty scary stuff in it.

      • Doc Sarvis

        Michael J.
        If anyone, even your own family suggests worshipping another God, kill them. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)

      • Kate8

        The Bible states clearly, “Thou Shalt Not Kill” (murder).

        The OT is full of examples of what happens to those who murder. Even David (a man after God’s own Heart) was plagued with the consequences of his actions for the rest of his life, even though God forgave him. His enemies never relented in their pursuit of his life.

        The NT emphasises this even more. Yeshua states that even holding hatred in one’s heart makes him guilty of murder.

        Where in the Koran does it say, ‘Thou Shalt Not Kill’? No, it says, ‘You MUST kill. It is your duty’ (paraphrase).

        You people who insist on comparing Christianity with Islam have no understanding of Scripture. The Bible says that those who have not the Spirit in them will not understand Scripture, but it will appear as so much foolishness…For those with ears to hear…

      • http://sicilankiss@yahoo.com sal

        uh whats up DOC?did u or did u not understand the part that islam DEMANDS,that muslims.convert,KILL or enslave alL NON believers if not u r one dumb bunny and just as dangerous as the muslims,and of course u probally think that muslim treatment is o.k.,take ypur libtard self back to your rock and crawl back under SO SAYS I BIG SAL

      • http://sicilankiss@yahoo.com sal

        uh whats up DOC?did u or did u not understand the part that islam DEMANDS,that muslims.convert,KILL or enslave alL NON believers if not u r one dumb bunny and just as dangerous as the muslims,and of course u probally think that muslim treatment OF WOMAN is o.k.,take ypur libtard self back to your rock and crawl back under SO SAYS I BIG SAL

      • marvin

        Doc Sarvis you are a moron

      • Doc Sarvis

        marvin,
        I am shocked that you would call me such a name and then not back it up with anything. You got anything?

      • Kate8

        Doc, You indict yourself by your own words. What better evidence is there?

        LOL.

      • Bill

        When you learn where the Symbols of The Confederate Flag came from, then please post something useful. Do your research before putting your foot in your mouth.

      • Doc Sarvis

        From infoplease.com

        “The Confederate battle flag, called the “Southern Cross” or the cross of St. Andrew, has been described variously as a proud emblem of Southern heritage and as a shameful reminder of slavery and segregation. In the past, several Southern states flew the Confederate battle flag along with the U.S. and state flags over their statehouses. Others incorporated the controversial symbol into the design of their state flags. The Confederate battle flag has also been appropriated by the Ku Klux Klan and other racist hate groups. According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, more than 500 extremist groups use the Southern Cross as one of their symbols.”

        It is this more recent history with hate groups that is most alarming.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Well Karaolyn my handle implies I’d like to be an angel, I’m just not! The difference between me & thee, is I can admit my faults!_I always said, I’m a Christian, I never once implied I was a perfect one!

      • Karolyn

        Angel – I too admit I’m not perfect, but I am striving to be the best person I can be. That is my purpose in life. I don’t call people nasty names; basically because it’s just so childish. I might use the terms “ignorant’ and “uneducated;” but you will never hear me telling anybody here or anywhere to get their head out of their a–s.

      • zingara

        so…doc sarvis, when you have time, why don’t you send some of your “observations” to england, france, germany, spain, italy, holland, denmark, norway, finland, switzerland,portugal, etc, etc….i’m sure you’ll find 1 or 2 people left in those “islam-occupied” countries who will accept your premises.

      • Woody

        The prospect of Eurabian nights draws closer with every passing day, mainly because of people just like the Doc. As Niall Ferguson (a British historian)observed: “A youthful Muslim society to the South and East of the Mediterranean is poised to colonize a senescent Europe to the North and West.”

        Take it from this Englishman, the colonization is well under way.

        http://www.flickr.com/photos/woody_of_brum/4871980784/in/set-72157624527247651/

      • Angel Wannabe

        Oh, Doc go find your own damn proof, thats all you liberals Scream, Show me proof, Show me proof__This is ALL opinion based. Opinions are like a**holes we all got one!__That said, shove your proof where the sun don’t shine!!!

      • Karolyn

        Well, Angel, that’s your OPINION. However, when Doc states his he doesn’t resort to low life name-calling. And you’re such a good Christian too.

      • Karolyn

        I’m with you Doc. I don’t understand why these people don’t get it. They’re not all out to get us! I do believe that especially the Anmerican-born Muslims are starting to speak out. There is a commercial coming out about just how American they are. Whether their beliefs are different or not, they are all God’s children too. Rather than spread hate, we should be “reaching across the aisle” to foster oooperation. But this is all in vain because most of the people on this list have tunnel vision and are not willing to look at issues from the other side.

      • Ron

        Karolyn – fostering cooperation does not mean letting muslims build a shrine to their murderous ways. You libs are the ones with tunnel vision. It’s always got to be your way. Please move to Europe and quit preaching to the rest of us how we need to be more tolerant. Where’s the muslim tolerance? There is none. Those who show any are threatened with death by guess who – other muslims.

      • Robert Wayne

        And I see here another lowlife left wing bitch who is stupid enough to fall for the raghead muslim dictates. I will say one good thing about muslims though. Shit eating bitches like you wouldn’t last long in their world. You’d be stoned as soon as you opened your ugly mouth.

      • http://0 phillip davis

        you karolyn are an idiot amd a true libtard,i hope you get a clue before your open arms to the muzzies gets your head sawed off by one of them

      • Warrior

        The imam was on abc news a couple Sunday’s ago. The imam was asked if had he known before they decided to build the NYC mosque at the current location, it would have created such an uproar, would he have still selected this site? Of course The imam’s answer was NO.

        Therein lies your answer.

      • Kate8

        Karolyn, Islam makes it very clear what they are to do: Make friends of your ‘enemies’ until to are strong enough to overtake them.

        What is it that you lefties don’t get about this?

        If there are Muslims who do not practice their religion, who would renounce the doctrine that states things such as this, who would embrace the American culture and be willing to be one of us, THEN FINE.

        Would you suggest that we must allow them all to come, because we don’t know which ones want to kill us and which ones don’t? Wouldn’t it make more sense to do as we did prior to LBJ, and only allow cultures compatible with ours to come into our country? IT IS OUR COUNTRY. IT IS AMERICA. If you don’t want to be American, DON’T COME.

        You would have them blow us all up and just let God sort it out?

        There is no rule that says we must be ‘compassionate’ or ‘accepting’ to the point of being suicidal.

        Geeze. You liberals are really dense. What’s it going to take to wake you up? Are you willing to sacrifice your own children to those who would harm us, in order to receive those who don’t? Will it take a bomb going off in your own house for you to understand?

      • Right Wing

        Kremlin Karolyn…have you been shooting up with multicultural Koolaide again? The fact that you use commercial advertisement as a basis to defend Muslims tells me you probably have a ton of useless crap in your house from QVC shopping channel and boxes of television-sponsored charity receipts laying about your house. Try tapping into the knowledge that exists in the last great bastion of free speech and open information exchange on the internet. You can find scholarly articles and books on the subject, interviews with Muslims and Muslim Apostates, news reports and the like. A well rounded gathering of information is critical to forming a qualified opinion and from what I have seen from the likes of you, Doc Sarvis, and most liberals is either an uniformed acceptance of liberal multiculturalism, baiting and taunting of Americans for America, or a watered down version of more subversive ideologies aimed at fragmenting cohesive public opinion. The last of these requires true skill and since the predominant support of Constitutional values on this site does not appear to be jeopardized, you are relegated to the lower levels of simple thought and childish behavior.

      • Karolyn

        Wow! You guys are just so articulate. You really think you get any point accross by foul language? You just demonstrate your ignorance and lack of respect for other people and their views.

      • Viktor Leben

        Karolyn,

        I don’t know if we are all God’s children. My outlook is people are individuals – personal responsibility. Live and let live ! No pre-judging !

        Doc – the South should have been allowed to secede … No slaver ship ever flew the Confederate flag ! On the flip side The Stars and Stripes flew over many a slaver’s ship !

        Each individual, be he/she Moslem, Christian or Atheist are personally responsible for his/her actions … Most live in peace -a few, from all groups, murder. That’s why we have police and courts, to punish the guilty individual ! Not the guilty “group” !!!

      • kenneth

        You are tunnel vision and truth blinded. You wouldn’t know truth if you saw it. A Muslim who calls themselves Muslim are no less following Koran. How can you believe in hate and killing and somehow believe there is love at the end of it? If you feel so righteous about Islam and the Koran move there. Have a happy life. Be amongst those who feel the very same way you feel. See how wonderful their freedom is. Do it? I dare you. Why are you here to take advantage of what Christians have given up there lives for. The Muslim indoctrination is nothing more than a few dominating others for their own pleasure and control. Your a moderate because of the pecking order until they tell you (those in control) tell you what to do. If then you don’t do what you are told, then you will face physical mutilation or death. Tell me that doesn’t go on today, in the Muslim world of faith. Tell me why a Muslim man who lived in America and was in the service and who talked with a Muslim cleric overseas would go to a military base and kill anyone around him he could and cry out Allah as he did it. Those are called truths. Don’t give me your drivel.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Look Darlin’, we’ve had Political correction shoved up our butts, our noses, and any other orifice that’s open FOR YEARS! Your President bows to other Countries, he makes apologies for America, blames everyone, and they’re Great Uncle, for choices he himself has made, the last two years. And anyone knowing the history of Sal Alinsky, knows Obama is working it to the “T”!_ America and her people has bent over backwards, being Politically Correct and accepting multi-cultures and WHAT THE HELL HAVE WE GOTTEN IN RETURN?___9/1!___Kids who were Told to stop singing a patriotic song, at one our OWN Memorials in Washington!!__We are told, to take down PUBLIC Memorial Crosses that Honor our fallen soldiers, Christmas Nativities are not allowed, because it may, offend someone. Ya know what I’ve about had it with this shyt TOO!
        IN CAPS__I DON’T GIVE A DAMN IF SOMEONE WANTS TO WORSHIP A DOG, BUT THEY HAVE NO MORE RIGHT TELLING ME TO STOP THE PUBLIC DISPLAY OF CHRISTIANITY,(and hiring the ACLU to fight a case against my right) THAN I HAVE DEMANDING THEY HAVE TO BELIEVE IN GOD!___THE OLD ADAGE IS TRUE, “IF WE DON’T STAND FOR SOMETHING, WE’LL FALL FOR EVERYTHING!!!”___AND WE HAVE!__ WE FALLEN HEAD LONG INTO THIS POLITICAL CORRECT BOTTOMLESS PIT OF HELL AND IT’S ALL BRAIN WASHING!!!!__We were founded on Christianity with God given rights, it didn’t say ‘OBAMA’S GIVEN RIGHTS!!!!!!

      • Kate8

        Angel-Wannabe, I hear ya loud and clear! You say it like it is, and many, many Americans are fed up with being told we have to tamp down our patriotic or Christian displays so as not to offend the foreigners among us.

        I would understand that if I went to another country, I should respect their culture, not expect them to bow to mine.

        There are more and more Muslims-turned-Christians who have been speaking out the loudest to warn us about Islam’s true intent here, and everywhere. No matter what they say, they are here to impose Islam on America. They are just waiting while they gain in strength.

        Those who defend Islam in America aren’t looking at the truth. As usual, they are bleeding-heart liberals, coming to the defense of the ‘underdog’, not wanting to see that the underdog is a wolf who sees them as the same prey as everyone else.

      • Claire

        This name-calling is one reason WHY I will not vote Republican. And they say the Liberals are nasty. Give me a break. I see name-calling from both sides. Neither party walks on water.

      • Claire

        My post was directed to Robert Wayne.

      • Kate8

        Claire, name calling is the reason you won’t vote republican? I hope this doesn’t mean that you will vote democrat, because for every republican that name-calls, there are 10 democrats who do, and worse.

        Where is all the name calling you are talking about? We are fed up. When you get really mad, you might get a bit over the top.

        I hope you are looking toward another party altogether, because the democrats have nowhere good to take us. I am voting for those who promise to stand for America, regardless of whether they are Republican, Libertarian or Constitution Party.

        I will never vote democrat, because if a candidate aligns with the socialist/communists on the left, they cannot represent American values.

      • Claire

        kate8–No Democrat. No Republican. As far as I am concerned there isn’t one politician with any common sense brains that is running for an office. I will not vote for the lesser of two evils. And to me, this is what it comes down to. I am totally fed up with the crap from both parties. I will probably vote for a third party. I have listened, read, watched, researched and I do not like what I am seeing and what I am finding out about these so-called “promising” candidates.

      • Jana

        Kat8,
        I was dealing with a lovely exMuslim woman about 8 years ago. She told me no actually she warned me to never ever trust a Muslim. She told me several wow things that I honestly thought she was over-reacting to, however now I know she was telling me the truth. She told me she HAD to move away because she was not safe. Again at that time I thought -sure-, but now I know she really was in danger because she had changed her religion to something else. It was not Christian but I don’t remember what.
        Oh, by the way I have some information on what we talked about before. We need to find a way to talk off this board because this probably isn’t the place for it. ;)

      • Kate8

        Jana, Any ideas about how we can do that?

      • Jana

        Kate8,
        Yes, I have just set up a temporary email through yahoo. But before I give itto you I want to make sure you are still on this site.

      • Ron

        Doc – radical christians are not killing non believers they simply preach holy than thou beliefs and believe we are all going to hell if we don’t live like christ. You’re free to leave with the rest of the USA haters.

      • Doc Sarvis

        President Bush claims to be a Christian yet he lied to start a war with Iraq and killed tens of thousands (at least) of Iraqi civilians/muslims.

      • Kate8

        Doc, Many politicians claim to be Christian in order to get votes.

        Obama claims to be Christian and yet twists and perverts the Scriptures at every opportunity, advocates the slaughter of babies, robs our people of their wealth to give to global financiers and, in general, whose actions to the contrary are too numerous to mention.

        Clinton had photo-ops of himself carrying a Bible to church, yet he sent troops to help Muslims fight the people who were trying to push back the Islamic takeover of their country.

        Pelosi claims to be Catholic, and yet condones the slaughter of babies, and the push of Americans into slavery and the NWO (the Bible clearly states that the world government is satanic).

        So what’s your point?

      • mark

        People always say their is radical christians when compairing Islam because they are afraid of being called a bigot.
        Where are these radical christians sucicde bombers calling out God is great ? all I hear about is muslims always killing people for non belief in islam, their os over 140 conflicts or war going on in the world and islam is alway on one side of it. so do you class victims as radical christians for dieing ?

      • Tahoe Dave

        In what key do you sing “Kumbaya”, Doc? Lets see the hoards of friendly, like-minded Muslims join your choir.

      • Robert Wayne

        What an imbecile you are. I proudly fly the Confederate flag. And this country, at least the southeastern portion of it would be a helluva lot better off if our ancestors had gotten their independence from the scumsucking Lincoln liberals whose decendants like you hate white southerners while kissing up to the raghead scum who consider you nothing more than a useful fool for them to destroy western civilization. I despise you just as much, if not more than those same raghead muslims you ally yourself with.

      • Doc Sarvis

        You don’t sound like you are speaking from that shining city on the hill or whatever referred to the U.S. as being. You sound like you are speaking from a rather cruddy hole. Let’s elevate the discourse shall we.

      • Doc Sarvis

        I meant to say whatever President Reagan used to referr to the U.S. as…

      • Karolyn

        Oh, Robert, now I get it. You are a southerner. I live in the south and fortunately do not have to deal with people like you; or at least they keep their ideologies to themselves.

      • Sams3

        I don’t think that the liberals would spend so much of thier time on here if they didn’t see a problem too. I believe we are all worried about how things are going, and they are too. Yeah, sure we want to believe there is some good in some Muslims, and some do disagree with radicals, but just like at the airport, we all suffer now because of a few highjackers, doesn’t matter who you are you will be searched thoroughly for the mistakes of others, and so the peacefull muslims will suffer for the mistakes of the radical ones. Every bad thing that your religion does reflects on you, just like with the Catholic priests, and now everyone assumes that all priests are like that. Whos fault is it, the people who knew and didn’t stop it. So if they don’t agree they better stand up and yell it.

      • Right Wing

        Doc you are comparing apples and oranges. Threats against Islam result in doctrined death warrants (Fatwah) that will be acted upon while calling an American a “red neck” for flying the Confederate flag might just get a big “hell yeah”. Yes there may be differing factions in the Islamic faith but you cannot ignore that this “religion” is an integration of church and state that serves to ensure the spread of shariah. Do your own homework on the topic instead of providing supposition that others here are uneducated and therefore, know less than you.

        If you want to compare the levels of devotion between Islam and Christianity then look no further than the current actions of each in our evolved, civilized world society. I see no collective support from Christians issuing death threats, conducting “martyrdom” (suicide)bombings, stoning women to death, murdering writers and artists for drawing Muhammad or criticizing the Koran. What you can’t ignore is that the Muslim world is standing united against the current atrocities committed by Muslim “extremists”. We all saw clearly how the “peaceful” followers of Islam reacted to one man’s planned burning of a book. Placate all you want but don’t expect others to follow your passive trek down the road to Muslim assimilation. This is the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave. Do Not Tread on Me. If a death threat is the best these rats can offer then bring it on. They do not subscribe to any form of conventional war and the only way to expose them is to offend them. They will fight to the death if offended but will cry injustice at every opportunity until they dominate by majority. What a cowardly existence of intolerance for diversity.

      • Right Wing

        slight but important correction…What you can’t ignore is that the Muslim world is (NOT) standing united against the current atrocities

      • http://MSM.com LeRoy

        I’m with the guy that said (if you think we are so bad then go with the rest of the muslims and leave this great country!!!!!!

      • Cheryl

        Doc,
        Apparently you are one of those with the wool still pulled over your eyes and a closed mind. You have listened to too many blacks and progressives. They are the ones who keep bringing up things that happened hundreds of years ago. As for the confederate flag, do you ever stop to think that maybe some people fly it because they had relatives who fought in the war? In some sense the war is still going on. People from the north move to the south and then want to change the way the southern people live their lives. People in the south don’t like that. People in the north grumble about all the blacks and other nationalities who move there and take jobs. I know this stuff happens because I live in the south and my husband’s family lives in the north. I have been around both enough to know.

      • MSGT JOHN CORREA – USAF (RET)

        Doc Sarvis, Your analogy of the Southern flag and the mosque are by no means comparable to what they represent. Have you ever bothered to conduct research into the life of Muhammad and his fairy tale vision of Gabrial who supposedly gave him the Qur’an (Koran)? Do you know what it says in Sura 5:48, 5:57, 9:5, 9:3, and 9:29 of their Qur’an (Koran)? Do you know who killed Bobby Kennedy in 1968? Do you know who kidnapped and massacred the athletes during the Munich Olympics in 1972? Do you know who over-ran the U.S. Embassy in Iran in 1979? Do you know who kidnapped Americans in Lebanon in the 1980s? Do you know who killed 200 American Marines in Beirut in 1983? Do you know who killed a 70 year old American and threw him overboard in his wheelchair in 1985? Do you know TWA Flight 847 was hijacked in Athens, while a U.S. Navy Diver was murdered when trying to rescue passengers in 1985? Do you know who bombed Pam Am Flight 103 and killed innocent men, women and children in 1988? Do you know who tried to bomb the WTC in 1993? Do you know who bombed the U.S. Embassies in Kenya [Obama II's birth place] and Tanzania in 1998? Do you know who murdered nearly three thousand Americans and the destruction of the WTC on September 11th, of 2001? I hope by the above account will have drawned you a picture of reality. Do you know about the American traitor Senator John F. Kerry of Massachusetts who introduced his bill S.3688 under the guise of the “International Professional Exchange Act of 2010″ that would flood the nation with more Muslims? Do you know the Muslim Brotherhood in North America describes a covert process of Islamic “settlement” in the United States? The plan is to carry out a “grand jihad” in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from “within” and ‘sabotaging’ its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminate, according to its document. Do you know there are thirty-five Muslim terrorist training camps throughout the U.S.? Try not to justify and glorify the existance of Muslims on our soil; they all worship and practice Islamic law and their push of their Shariah law as the law of our soveveign nation. Our nation was born under Judeo-Christian principles and we Americans will fight to the end to uphold our American heritage.

        MSGT JOHN CORREA
        USAF (RET)

      • Viktor Leben

        Dammit Master Sergeant !

        We are a nation of individuals ! It’s up to the individual if he/she wants to break our laws ! Are you dense ?

        I’d frag your ass if I had a M-16 ! You better stand down !

      • DANIEL W. DYKES, MSGT, USAF RET

        AMEN BROTHER. KNOW THY ENEMY; THE BETTER TO DEFEAT. IT’S A DOUBLE EDGED SWORD, BUT WHEN WEILDED BY THE TRUTHFUL WILL BE TRIUMPHANT. KEEP UP THE GOOD WOEK JOHN.

      • Right Wing

        Vic, I assume your comment was in jest? First of all do not disrespect anyone who has worn a uniform in service of this country. Second do not threaten harm to any soldier especially if you do not know that fragging involves a grenade and/or that an M-16 is rifle. He would probably kick your butt so hard the last thing to go through your mind would be his combat boot.

      • Viktor Leben

        Right Wing,

        I’ll frag your right shoulder from 4 clicks out with my .50 caliber widowmaker ! How’s that for a “grenade” you REMF ‘tard !

      • Viktor Leben

        I AM VICTOR LEBEN ! NO ARMY CAN STAND AGAINST ME AND WIN !

      • Right Wing

        Ooh boy. Vic go back to watching Power Rangers.

      • Joyce from Loris

        I bet Viktor knows kung fu, too! You had better be careful, John. ROFLMAO!!!!

      • dan az

        msgt john correa
        well said and to the point thanks!

      • Jana

        Right on MSGT Correa,
        Poor Viktor just had a melt down. But, he is always having them. So we take what he says like a few grains of salt spilled on the floor. Sweep them up and throw them away.

      • Viktor Leben

        Ditto Jana ! I am a nutcase ! HA HA !

      • Joyce from Loris

        Doc, your comments are proof of one thing important. The two different religions can not coexist in peace. That is why the muslims should stay in their own land, and stay out of our Christian founded America. I stand by my Bible, I do not apologize to anyone for it, nor will I make excuses for it. Jesus Christ was sent to us by gift of God, so that we could be forgiven of our sins by God. Our faith in Jesus, and the salvation we receive, protects us.

      • EddieW

        You need to have a deeper understanding of Islam…It is not peaceful at all…you become a Muslim or you DIE!!! No tolerance for anything else…even the “peaceful” ones are committed to this policy!!!

      • Doc Sarvis

        ya, right.

      • Right Wing

        Doc Sarvis…eco-warrior facade from the “The Monkey Wrench Gang”. You must have considered Luddite as a pseudonym as well huh?

      • Doc Sarvis

        Right Wing,
        Had to Google that one. Not a reader of E. Abbey myself.

      • Woody

        “I have complete faith that Islam will invade Europe and America, because Islam has logic and a mission.” Muhammad Mahdi Othman ‘Akef

        Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran . . . should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth. — Council on American-Islamic Relations Chairman Omar M. Ahmad, speech, July 1998

        “Islam is not only a religion, it is a complete way of life. Islam guides Muslims from birth to grave. The Quran and prophet Muhammad’s words and practical application of Quran in life cannot be changed. Islam is a guide for humanity, for all times, until the day of judgement. It is forbidden in Islam to convert to any other religion. The penalty is death. There is no disagreement about it. Islam is being embraced by people of other faiths all the time. They should know they can embrace Islam, but cannot get out. This rule is not made by Muslims, it is the supreme law of God. Please do not ask us Muslims to pick some rules and disregard other rules. Muslims are supposed to embrace Islam in its totality.” Nazra Quraishi, kindergarten teacher. (In the Lansing State Journal, Michigan, July 5, 2006

        “Islam is advancing according to a steady plan, to the point that tens of thousands of Muslims have joined the American army and Islam is the second largest religion in America. America will be destroyed. But we must be patient.” Saudi Professor Nasser bin Suleiman al-Omar

        “We did not occupy the US, with eight million Muslims, using bombings. Had we been patient and let time take its course, instead of the eight million there could have been 80 million [Muslims], and 50 years later perhaps the US would have become Muslim.” Saudi preacher Sheikh Said al-Qahtani (On criticizing Al-Qa’eda for being impatient, and waking the West up)

        “We will control the land of the Vatican; we will control Rome and introduce Islam in it.” Sheikh Muhammad bin Abd al-Rahman al-’Arifi, imam of the mosque of the Saudi government’s King Fahd Defence Academy

      • T

        No matter who reads the koran it still says the same thing (kill the infedels and take their land). Just because a person does not worship the pedophile muhamed loudly does not mean that person is not worshiping him. They need to wake up and decide for themselves if they want logic and truth or tribal ways and horrors to live by for the rest of their lives.

      • Disgusted

        We have paved the way for this to happen. When we tolerate our flag being flown upside down or when we tolerate another countries flag being flow above ours we are sending a clear message and Islam is hearing it loud and clear. They see our weakness as time to take action. Our “tolerance” is being viewed as “weakness” and we need to put an end to it.
        If you want to live in this country then this country comes first: speak the language, write the language and you are not a minority anymore – you are an american citizen…..period. Otherwise – get out and go back to your own country.
        Do you think for one minute Islam would tolerate us building a Christian temple on their land? Never. Yet we are just expected to tolerate it here. If we do we are showing how weak in our faith and principles we really are and they will come.
        GOD help us all!

      • http://Google ProudChicagoan

        Flying the flag upside down is not always wrong – it is a distress signal. But, I agree with you about flying another country’s flag above ours. Unfortunately, though, that happens in the U.S. People in this country need to respect our flag and our history. That is what really concerns me. What is being taught in school now scares me more than the muslims.

      • http://Verizon.net Billy Dyro

        Even though we no-longer produce much of anything but technology anymore, and therfore are on the fast track to the third world because of our massive debt to “Chindia” I still believe this is the greatest nation on the planet. I may have only traveled to four other contries in my life, but from my little experience and from what I’ve learned about the rest of the world, I thank God I was lucky enough to be born here. We still have more freedoms here than anywhere else in the world, and we have to protect every one of our freedoms because the self-rightous liberal Democtats, and Republicans in name only, want nothing more than to limit our freedoms. Don’t kid yourself, our elected officials may be elected by the people, but they do think of themselves as royalty. Back in either 1985, or 1986, then junior liberal senator, Charles Schumer came and spoke to my h.s. class and was extremely angered when his anti-2nd amendment myths and viewpoints were challenged by some young snot-nosed kid armed with NRA facts because he had just gotten his rifle liscense and was excited about his upcoming first hunting trip. He was debunked into a corner with the facts and he came out screaming at a young man who at the time probably wasn’t even half his age. Now that I look back at it, I can smirk at the fact that I threw him into a royal temper tantrum, there is just no other way to describe it.
        Thank God for the Tea-Party. I know the movement is still in it’s infancy but I hope it truly does grow into a real third party to save our constitution.
        I work in Brooklyn, not to far from an large Muslim school that is probably funded by our tax dollars, and I can confidently say from my contacts and experiences with the parents of these children over the years that they do despise non-Muslims, and they probably will never assimilate into our culture like our parents did before us. That never bothered me at all, to each his own I always believed until Sept. 11th happened and I witnessed the pride and joy that some of these people exhibited on that dreadful morning, even before the rest of the country was informed that the highjackers involved in the plane crashes were infact Islamic terrorists.
        Yes this is a war, and a religious one, so it will probably last forever. It will probably grow alot bigger than it is now, but in the end, I have faith in the American people, and we will prevail as long as we don’t let it be destroyed.

      • Jana

        Billy D,
        Too bad there were no cell phones with cameras back then. That would have been a hoot to watch. Good for you.

      • Lewis Munn

        And I was apalled when the illegals hung our flag upside down under theirs; the symbol of conquest, and nobody dared to correct the situation. Guess we are a nation of wimps!! Uneducated and undeserving, and hamstrung by liberal’s laws.

      • Jana

        We have become a nation of Lefties, and must follow political correctness and not hurt anyones feelings. PHOOEY!
        We have awakened to the dangers of letting this continue. These lefties stand for nothing and are falling for everything. If we left our country in their hands we won’t have a country for long.
        Time for the Truth to come out and for the rest of us to stand up and be counted.
        They have always counted on us shutting up and being submissive. We have found our voice, we have found our courage and we are going to get our country back to where it should be!

    • http://www.facebook.com Michael Owens

      I am sick of watching the Muslim beheading people, hanging killing little children for nothing. Time for We the People to Stand and Fight for our Rights! America we are Free for now! How much longer if we put up with Islam in America.

      Who is Allah?

      http://www.raptureready.com/soap/baker11.html

    • Bandit

      I say if these maslams want a war lets give them one. I mean they are so hell bent the destruction then they need to be taught a lesson, and that being that we are not so easy to get rid of. Look what to Japan during WWII they where taught a lesson so why can’t we do the same thing to the maslams after all they are just people like any one else. And yes they are invading this country just like a cancer invades the body. we need to wipe this cancer called muslam out of our country. So I guess that I do agree with John.

      • Karolyn

        It’s always a man who says “Let’s Kill’em all.” Violence solves nothing but does create more violence, never mind the lives lost.

      • http://0 phillip davis

        shut your stupid pie hole you liberal douche bag you and your like thinkers make me sick.go nut nuzzle obama’s sack he is the leader of the muzzies i bet you love obama and think he is doing a great job,pull your head out of the groin of obama and get a real clue muslims or islam dont like you they will kill you if you dont believe obama is a muslim,he was born barry saratoro became a muzzie barack hussien obama just like cassius clay became mahammad ali the boxer remember he became a muzzie to stay out of the vietnam war

      • Karolyn

        My, my Phillip, aren’t we articulate today. When somebody truly believes what they say, they don’t need to be defensive (or offensive).

      • http://MSM.com LeRoy

        If you just set here on your hands and let someone take over-how many lives do you think will be lost them and that is just what is happening withthese Muslims.!

      • Woody
      • Larry Owens

        YEP, they are a bunch of COWARDS that terrorize and kill people by ambush and threats.

        Lets take America back from them and the establishment.

      • Lewis Munn

        Bandit,

        We taught Japan their lesson only when we nuked them, destroying two complete cities with 2 modest bombs.

        They capitulated to an overwhelming force we brought.

        Now-a-days, most of the other side has the same things, and we are not willing to sacrifice our people and cities anymore for the right for freedom, or to bomb civilians in other countries into radioactive gases. Even to save the rest of our nation and the remaining parts of the world. Dishonor is preferable to immediate death.

        And being a living quisling a while longer to immediate clean death defending our country’s territory and honor.

        So sad.

        We are divided and not fanatical like the Muslims are.

    • HFlashman

      I’m fed up with “moderate” christians not standing up to the radical Talibanisc elements of the christian movement. I’m fed up with the whining cowards of the Right who put this Nation in the situation it is in today, and take no responsibility and foist the blame onto others. I’m fed up with people who whine, complain and say ‘no’..and offer no solutions other than unrealistic rantings based on 7th grade understanding of the Constitution and economics. I’m fed up with rolling up my sleeves working to help those who love this contry get back on its feet…and hearing nothing but complaints, insults, derogatory remarks, and cowardly statements from the Right.

      Fed up? Yep. Issue is, you have no reson for being fed up…YOU created it.

      • Rebel44

        HFlash Gordon= Antidisestablishmentarinism

      • S.C.Murf

        if you are so fed up then move, lots of space in Iran

      • Bruce D.

        HFlashman, you have made it very clear you side with Marxist and Muslims. Same as Obama. We get it. Why do you seem so frustrated that the rest of us do not. You have chosen your side and we have chosen ours. We say no to Marxist and Muslims. The people of “no” who support the party of “no” as long as they keep sayin “no”.

      • http://GOGGLE vaksal

        RELAX,HFLasHMAN,this is a posting site,please take your BUSPAR and chill out.this is not a war zone yet,until the crazies come for my bible and guns.LONG LIVE (THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS,”SO HELP ME GOD”.

      • dan az

        hey flash
        reread what you just wrote and tell me how you dont fit your rant!

    • slickporsche

      There is no such thing as a peaceful Muslim. If their cleric tells them to start killing blonde haired blue eyed caucasians , that is what they will do.Do you think there is a secret gene pool of bad Muslims that are used to replace the ones we kill. Get a grip they are all bad. The only thing we can do about it is to overthrow our useless government and start over, and then get rid of the garbage.

  • dan az

    This would be considered an invasion of another country that wishes to take over our country.What more needs to be said?when we get this radical muslim out of office problem solved.This is why I say close the borders and send them packing with there bro!There religion if you want to call it that says kill all non believers what part of that is a religion? So if our government excepts that belief then I say that we start our own religion that says that if you cant follow our ways then we have the right to change your way of thinking!I have talked with people from the netherlands and they where over taken by the muslims and wiped out there welfare systems and gained control of there government.there system was a socialist system that couldnt stand the burden so they left along with alot of others.The only thing that would scare me is that happening to our system not by the threats of some camel jockey.action not words makes us stronger!

    • Peter

      I’m stunned! This is the first post EVER that I have agreed with John Myers on! Glory be!

      • FreedomFighter

        They the invasion force sets up in well defined stronghold pockets, maintains strict obedience, then recruits against America and American.

        I call it a political invasion, as in any invasion, you either repel the invaders or be overwhemed by those with intent to turn you or kill you.

        By intent, by action, they are enemies of the United States Of America.

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

      • Doc Sarvis

        Fear and loathing with no basis. This is how some in our country want you to be scardy-cats. Proud Americans will stand up for the founding principals of our country one of which is the freedom of religion.

      • Wayne Salhany

        I can’t believe you are really a doctor. Are you blind and deaf? To make an unqualified and blanket assertion that people have no basis for their fears and concerns is more than simply wrong. It is evil. Why evil? Because it extends to the point of exageration, mocking and scorn. Your’s is not a call to consideration. It is an appeal to emotion and demagogery. Your appeal to American values is shallow and unworthy.

      • FreedomFighter

        Investigate.

        Look at what is happening in other western nations as the Muslim populatons increase or look at Muslim countries. The Muslims become violent, Intolerant, then usually start killing people.

        Its not pretty.

        Laus Deo
        Semper Fi

      • http://www.personalliberty.com/news/anti-mosque-ads-to-run-on-nyc-buses-after-all-4-19923906/ Chuck

        Memo to Doc Sarvis:
        Anyone who thinks fear & loathing of Islam has no basis, I would suspect doesn’t pay much attention to the news of the day, or has a very bad memory. BTW Denial is not a river in Egypt.
        When one looks around the world @ what Islam is doing for our planet, it is not unreasonable to have the kind of concern you would attribute to “scardy-cats”, considering the carnage & backwardness that follows in the wake of this so-called religion of peace.
        Patriotic Americans don’t need lectures on founding principles & freedom of religion; they understand that our founders would have condemned the behavior of the rude, crude, insensitive Ground Zero Cordoba victory mosque Imam & they would not PANDER to a religion that runs as contrary to the founding principles of which you speak, as Islam.

      • http://comcast danl

        Doc Sarvis says “Proud Americans will stand up for the founding principals of our country one of which is the freedom of religion.” That is bull. Islam is NOT a religion. It is a militant political organization and it is waging war on ALL non-muslim. A first step should be to deny tax exemption status.

      • Dogma-Free

        Amen, Doc…Amen.

        I can’t believe the fearmongering I see here…oh, wait, no…that’s a lie. I really can believe it, especially after having seen 8 years of it with the Bush administration, and then seeing it here…and on FAUX ‘news’.

        It’s a manipulation tactic that is so effective on the weak-minded masses…I think Goebels used the same tactics in Nazi Germany, back in the 30′s and 40′s. Luckily, most Americans are too young to remember such things, and don’t read enough to learn about them. It’s so much easier to control the masses, when they’re ignorant of history, and poorly educated.

      • Kimberly Peters

        This is not hate mongering, fear, stupidity or anything else for that matter. Suicide bombers and fear of muslims has begun in Europe and will transition here. You cannot deny the fact that many leaders in muslim countries state that islam will prevail and rule the world.

        Also, islam is not just a religion. It’s military, political and religion combined. It does not theoretically work with our democratic beliefs or system. This is how they manage to covertly change our system and way of life.

        You will all sing a different tune when suicide bombers who learn jihad and are motivated by the imam of the local mosque starts putting pipe bombs in your backyard and schools. That’s what this sick cult does. They go after the innocent children along with the adults.

      • Wildcat from Dallastown, PA

        Other than having an absolute misperception of the threat of extremist Islam (which they ALL are, either overtly or covertly), you need to re-read what was happening prior to and as the pilgrams left England relative to religion. I think you will find that the king of England broke away from the Catholic church and the Pope (something to do with marriage and divorce perhaps) and created the Church of England. One of the reasons for the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States was to prevent the federal government from creating their own “religion” ergo their own “Church” such as the “Church of America”. While our founding fathers knew about Islam, that did not become even an international issue until then President Thomas Jefferson sent the U.S. Marines to teh Barbary Coast (no spell check avail) to stop the “Islamic Pirates” along that coast. Since the preponderance of our founding fathers were strong practicing Christians who based their thought process on the Christian Bible first and their personal life’s experience in England second. I suggest you read the books by former Muslim authors that converted to Christianity to include Mehmet Canor, Nonie Darwish and others to obtain a more comprehensive understanding of Islam. Then review what has been going on in Europe, especially, Switzerland, Germany, France and the Netherlands as well as England. Search for political cases and speeches by elected officials as well as articles from periodicals in those countries such as Der Speigel. They are all wrestling with immigration without cultural assimilation. Their global battle plan from long ago has been resurected and altered to accomplish the same result without conducting major combat operations against organized military forces of established nations. Read-Learn & Improve your understanding before sticking your foot in your mouth repeatedly!

      • Jana

        Wildcat from Dallastown,
        You speak the truth. King James commissioned the Bible to be translated into English too, ergo we have the King James Bible today. Of course a lot of the old English style of language was used originally.

      • http://non James

        Mr. Myers is promoting Christian Jihad. What he says in cloked racism.
        And Christianity never murdered non-believers, yea right, HaHaHa. Keep you Christian values to your selves. I don’t not want them, and I don’t want them infecting our government. You are basically advocating violence towards all Islam.What makes a holy site, holy- Centuries of Violence The Jews, Christians, and Muslims fight each other about which one has the true God. This God was adopted from Egyptians, and called Amon Ra, the one God. Hum, very interesting. And Yahwei has a very emotional personality.

        And I just heard about a planet in our Galacy that travels 4,000 miles per hour in space. Fit that into your Judeo/Christian/Islamic values.

      • Abe

        I guess you forget that there are a couple of planets spinning in the opposite direction and that the sun has most of the mass in the solar system but has less than 2% of the angular momentum. Mercury has a magnetic field when its not supposed to and venus has no magnetic field when it is supposed to – uranus and neptune should not have formed because of gravitational force is supposedly too less. There is so much that doesnt fit into the so called scientific theories on how the solar system came about – go fit that into your so called evolution theory.

        If a planet in our Galacy travels 4,000 miles per hour in space – it is because GOD made it that way.

      • LAWMAN

        Abe,come on your smarter then that,Santa was real also until i was 8 years old,grow up.IF there was a god,he kill all the religious freaks for exploiting his so called words of peace.All religious groups are are joke.

      • Toasted Oats

        So if you had some credentials in astrophysics, you would have layed it out in laymen’s terms how these oddities in planetary motion that you mentioned somehow prove that astrophysics has been wrong and that the earth is only about 6K years old. Astrophysicist with the exeception of Stephen Hawkin usually stay away from such pointless arguments about who’s god is whose and who created the universe. Everyone can have there own idea about what happened before there was any evindence of anything and who/what created it all. But for you to dismiss all the acedemic work and sacrifices over the past 500+ years without anything to show for it suggest you may have something against the acemdemic world and have a right wingnut job agenda. Are you wearing your tin foil hat properly?

      • James

        For the record, I am not the “James” that wrote this. I’m the legal brief guy, concerning rights.

      • The Mole

        Well James,
        Your friends must call you “BOY WONDER” because I wonder were you get your info from? It is apparent you have not read the Quran, or have seen what the muslim religion has done to every country without a back bone, including the once great England. As an American, I often wonder why the sissy liberals in our country think everyone has to get along or like everyone? Do we the people not have the right to “Not” like someone or their religion, especially of what their religion stands for? Its quite apparent also that it is only the Christian religion that has no religious rights in America now!I’m an Unapoligetic American and if you don’t like that I don’t really give a S@#t. You just continue to watch the self wetting Kieth Oberman, the butch, and all the other brain dead wannabe news folks and I’m sure you’ll be known as boy wonder for a long time to come.

      • A45678

        Promoting Christian jihad? “And Christianity never murdered non-believers, yea right, HaHaHa” When you open up a bible and show me the page where it says that killing is alright, then maybe a thinking man would listen to you. As it is, the bible specifically says quite the opposite. You cannot blame religious extremism and warping of ideals on the religion, however, Islam is quite specific in that it says killing is alright if you aren’t killing a Muslim. How about you move to Iran, and tell me from experience how it’s just the same as traditionally Christian states. Your blind liberalism sickens me.

      • Ron

        What the hell is wrong with you people? Islam itself is just another religion. Good and bad by what the people make of it. Islam didn’t attack us on 911, right-wing radical fundamentalist islamists, demented by their out of control faith attacked the US. Those people are no better than the right-wing radical fundamentalist Christians or right-wing fundamentalist Jews. Anyone who takes a literal interpretation of the ancient texts can in their out of control faith can easily look for and find the portion of the ancient texts that fit their extremism. The Bible is just as capable of feeding extremists as is the Quran.
        Open your minds to reality!!

      • Jana

        Its odd how when someone tries to tell others to “open their minds to reality” are the very ones who are bigoted and close minded themselves.

      • The Mole

        Ron,
        The only thing I can see wrong with us is the fact that we’re not brain dead like you! Now stop smoking that crap, learn to read and open your eyes to the real world. I suppose you voted for the changing of your diapers too!

    • MSGT JOHN CORREA – USAF (RET)

      I would like to add that there is nothing that can’t be fixed. The most dangerous obsticle we face today is that the communist controlled Congress and Senate prevents the Impeachment and Deportation of the foreign-born Muslim Communist U.S. President Barack Hussein Obama II. If and when we take our country back this November, it will depend on the guts of our new Representives that would generate the Impeachment and Deportation of the foreign-born Muslim Communist U.S. President Barack Hussein Obama II? It can be done in accordance with the U.S. Constitution. It is extremely important that we close our borders and round-up all Muslims who are bent on “KILLING US” and taking-over our sovereign nation, including all illegal aliens and place them all into concentration camps until everyone of them are deported. And don’t tell me it can’t be done! Franklyn D. Roosevelt did it with all legal American Japanese citizens during the Second World War. So forget this civil rights that are presently being used against us. We are in a position to exile anyone that hates America, and to hell with the ACLU. The Prime Minister of Australia already warned the Muslims to GET OUT!!! THIS IS OUR COUNTRY AND OUR LIFESTYLE… WE ARE KNOWN FOR OUR AMERICAN HERITAGE AND OUR JUDEO-CHRISTIAN PRINCIPLES.

      MSGT JOHN CORREA
      USAF (RET)

      • http://frankcalamia.blogspots.com Frank95054

        Well said. I urge all to read, “A Simple Koran.” Muslims are not loyal to any nation. They are loyal only to fellow Muslims. Islam is a political system with religion as a cover. Finally, Christian leaders need to wake up and lead by taking a stand against Islam. Christian’s are being murdered for their beliefs all over the Muslim world, and not a word from the Christian community.

        Finally, understand Master Sergeant, that your words are now part of a data base that is run by those who are traitors to our country and Constitution.

        1SG, USA Retired but not dead. http://www.oathkeepers.org

      • JiimCO

        In the 16th century Phillip ll of Spain, which was a superpower at the time decided the way to honor God was to make Spain a completely Christian nation. So he gave the Muslims and Jews 3 options, convert, leave or die and Spain fell from the ranks of the superpowers.

        In the 17th century England also got the idea that there was only one way to be a Christian, the rest were heretics, thus the pilgrims were forced to flee and ended up here to found a new nation that stressed … religious freedom?

        And as they say: those who refuse to read history … are doomed to repeat it!

      • CJ

        Jiim, your assumption that the results are singularly the consequence of the act is incorrect. It was a more complicated cause, and the actions you highlight were not even the major cause. However, due to the fact those governments defined the churchs’ behavior and interpretation of scripture is EXACTLY why our Constitution states our government can NOT make a law recognizing any religion. This alone will have the greatest impact in preventing this from happening here….. as long as our elected officials abide by their sworn oath to “support and defend the Constitution”.

      • JiimCO

        Well CJ, you say that can not happen here, our Constitution forbids it … yet is that not what Meyers and many others here are advocating, running the Muslims out of the country on a rail? As was pointed out, the Constitution should have protected the Japanese from being interred, yet it only took the simple expedient of suspending those right and protections to make it possible.

      • BigIron

        What you say about Spain is true; Spain did not recover from that forced exodus but it was the forced exodus of Jews that was the cause of their downfall not the forced exodus of the Muslims. All that and too many lawyers.

        The basic “Christian” god and the “Jewish” god have sufficient similarities and beliefs attached to their religions to support a similar ideological worldview but this cannot be said to be true of Islam. Indeed one need be neither a Christian nor a Jew in order to properly function within our culture and within our Republic but ones belief system, ideological worldview, must be congruent with Anglo-Saxon Common Law and Natural Law and the belief that all “rights” are endowed upon the people by their Creator (or God by whatever name called); this is really the “foundation” of our Country and thus our declared “ideological worldview”.

        The nature and foundation of Islam simply does not allow it to fit into these requirements. Islam is not a religion, it is an “ideological worldview” that is incompatible with our own. Being that Islam is an ideology and not a religion, Islam does not suffer the protections of freedom of religion guaranteed by our Constitution; it is, in fact, the enemy of our Constitution and, thus, the enemy of our Country.

      • Vicki

        lets see. Religious freedom. How well does Islam (the politic) support religious freedom?

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FXDAaiT6os&feature=fvw

      • Dan-o

        The fact is that the muslims are threatening our lifes, according to there Qur’an. personaly if someone theatens my life I’m going to get them before they get me, so I’m not having to worry about every time I turn the corner.

      • http://www.personalliberty.com/news/anti-mosque-ads-to-run-on-nyc-buses-after-all-4-19923906/ Chuck

        Not condoning what Phillip 2 of Spain did, but that’s ancient history & in today’s world the only religion that does what Phil the 2nd did is Islam.

      • Brian

        It is so often true that those who do not learn from history are indeed doomed to repeat it. And on the subject of history, we can learn from the history of Islam, that its growth over the centuries has been through armed conflict.

        Muslims are loyal to the Prophet, more than to any nation state. The Prophet taught that it is better to die in Jihad than from old age, because your eternal life is assured. They are also taught that Jews are Liers and pigs, and Christians are deceived because they accept Jesus as the son of God. They are not to make friends of them. Further they are taught to lie to them until they have the upper hand.

        When the Muslims are a sizable minority in any country they will agitate for Sharia law. When they are the majority they will demand it.
        Look at Holland, Denmark, France and England! These countries are all doomed really. It is now time for all who want to remain free to take a stand against Islam. They are using our tolerance to defeat us.

      • Sams3

        All of you keep bringing up history and mentioning the fact that pilgrims fled to America, but that is where the point is. If the natives had killed the English, or let them starve they might still be around. The Indians willing opened the doors to some real brutal savages. This coutry belonged to some other free individuals and it was taken over in no time, so which history are we really worried about? Are we going to worry about be guilty of religious persicution, or would you rather sit around with your arms open and let the brutal savages in to kill us all?

      • MIKED

        I SAY DEATH TO ISLAM,AND WHEN THE REVELUTION BEGINS-AND THERE WILL BE ONE I THINK SOON THE MUSLIMS ARE GOING TO BE THE FIRST ONES I HUNT DOWN
        HEY ISLAM YOUR PROFIT WAS A LITTLE GIRL AND WORE PANTIES AND SLEPT IN A PIG PEN,NOW HOW DO YOU LIKE THAT YOU SCUM

      • Ron

        Miked, you are living prove that the Neanderthals are NOT extinct. Jesus would kick your ass!!

      • Ron

        Proof.

      • ChuckL

        You’ve got it correct. When are we going to publicly call Islam exactly what it is; a Theocracy looking for another nation to dominate. It is completely incompatible with the Constitution, specifically the First Amendment.

        The requirement in the Koran to allow non-believers to convert or kill them is not protected by the Constitution. The requirement to force Sharia onto everyone is direct violation of: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…”

        Prohibiting the free exercise of other religions clearly violates this clause, and also clearly establishes Islam as a Theocracy, not a protected religion.

      • Ron

        Any religion that requires or encourages one to be a member of that religion first before they are American is equally out of step with the intent of the Constitution. This includes some of Islam, some of Christianity, and some of Judiasm.
        We are properly Americans first and then, oh by the way, because it isn’t important, I am a Christian, and you are a Muslim, and he is a Jew. If is so important that we share strongly our American Famlihood, that it is consequential what religion we are. If your flavor of religion differs from that statement, to the degree of difference, the more closed minded your religion and you are.

        We live in a pluralistic, sectarian country, that allows us to have our own religious societies in addition to our American society. We must first remember that we are all Americans first and foremost and live together with our differences. None of us holds supreme grace to be better than anyone else. Differences and disagreement is goodness and to be lived with in the understanding of our more important “American-ness”.

      • Jana

        MSGT Correa,
        I do not know the proper terminology, but HOORAH OR HOO HAA. Something like that.
        You are so right and I applaud you for your service and I applaud you for your good common sense.

      • http://MSM.com LeRoy

        You are right. send the muslims and all illegal people that are trying to bringing this country down packing and I mean all of them and close our borders! They say they are piecefull but I think that is only till they get settled in, This do gooder country has to change. We try not to offend anyone but in the process we get walked on. We need to start standing up for our country!!!!!

      • Harold

        We need to stand up for our country now, tell the muslems that we are a Christian nation based of Judeo-Christian ethics. if they don’t like that they can get out and stay out. We hav no room for those who wish to kill us and our way of life. We must fight to restore our liberties

      • Ron

        We are NOT a Christian Nation, never have been, never will be. There is no nationally proscribed religion, no test of religion for citizenship. The Constitution supports freedom of religion just as much as it supports freedom FROM religion.

        If for some demented reason, it was decided that this should be a Christian nation, the country would destroy itself trying to decide just what flavor of Christianity is the “correct” flavor. There are SO MANY!!. We would probably would start killing each other.

        We have many Christian values in this nation, but surprisingly most of them are shared by all religions.

      • Jana

        Ron,
        I really hope you feel better after throwing your fit.

      • Joyce from Loris

        Don’t forget… Eisenhower deported hundreds of thousands of illegal mexicans in our country back in the early 50′s, in just a few days! Illegal immigrants have been a problem for our Nation for many years. We must have new laws, since the old ones don’t seem to work.

      • Kate8

        Joyce, the laws we have on the books regarding this issue are just fine. The problem is that they are no being enforced.

        No laws will work if there is no will to enforce them.

      • Harold

        Joyce the current laws would work if the O administration would enforce them, but they refuse to do their job and protect our borders and deport those brought to ICE by local jurisdictions. This calls for impeachment of the Persident and the voting out of all the democrat socialists, send them all back from where they came

      • Sid

        I’m with you Harold!! Maybe we will get a big surprise this November and by some off the wall chance receive the leadership we soooo need to set the world straight. YES America IS a Capitialist nation and of the many outstanding qualities America has; It really hurts to see incompetence dictate our policies and cater to those who are bent on destroying us as a people and our nation for being tollerant and caring.

      • JohnY

        It does not matter if it is Obama that enfoces them or not. They just need to be enforced and strictly ALL THE TIME !!!

      • Beepster

        Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy – All three deported illegals to give job opportunities to returning vets. And to those that think it can’t be done, read up on history that may not be well known. Islam has a term called “Taqiyya” that says it all. Lie, cheat, steal, from the Infidels, and if that doesn’t work, kill them.

      • Brian

        Beepster!

        That is 100% on the money, and they will deny it! (which is in keeping with the strategy)

      • http://www.personalliberty.com/news/anti-mosque-ads-to-run-on-nyc-buses-after-all-4-19923906/ Chuck

        No, what we need 2 do is run Progressives out of office & enforce laws we have. Larry the Cable Guy said it in humorous way on Sean Hannity’s radio show the other day “the nerve of Arizona making it illegal to be here illegally; what are they going to do next… make it a crime to commit a crime?”
        We have laws. Progressives/Marxists/Socialists like our current President & politicians like our last President who pander 2 them, don’t respect rule of law & it’s time 2 vote their ilk out.
        If immigration law & all laws had been enforced in nation that respects rule of law, including apprehending visa over-stayers, 911 wouldn’t have happened.

      • Pen

        Dear MSGT Correa;

        I totally agree, but when we get rid of the Muslim Obama we must also get the Communist George Soros as well, Soros has sworn for years that he would destroy America. God Bless.

      • http://personalliberty.com Clau78910

        Amen. Follow the money and you will find Soros behind every scoundrel.

      • slickporsche

        THe first thing that needs to happen,is to repeal the civil rights laws and then we can move on from there. The ACLU also needs to have all its members rounded up and put in FEMA camps.

      • http://guy@reogiant.com guyb

        You are correct!!!

      • Harold

        Slick, I agree about rounding up the communist ACLU, send them all to Argentina and let Hugo deal with them. Civil rights laws are not the problem, it’s the way the Socialists deal with them, especially the racist Obama

      • HFlashman

        LOL … I stated in another post about a 7th grade interpretation…I stand corrected, it’s 3rd grade.

        BTW…Hugo Chavez is President (by popular vote) of Venezula, not Argentina.

      • Wlmitch1

        Hugo Chavez is the “president” of Venezuela, not Argentina.

      • Viktor Leben

        MSGT CORREA,

        If I had a M-16 I’d frag your ass ! Didn’t you take a vow to the Constitution ! Live and let live ! If an individual breaks the law then they should be tried .. NOT GROUPS ! What hell are you talking about Stand down Master Sargent !!!

      • S.C.Murf

        viktor, a 16 shoots bullets a grenade is for fragging you idiot

      • Viktor Leben

        Hey Smurfette,

        Sorry I forgot to mention Betty’s M-203…

      • http://guy@reogiant.com guyb

        No one could say it better!!!!!

      • Larry Owens

        I see you have the GUTS to stand up and tell it like it is.

        To bad our Career politicians and whimpie leaders have no guts.

        Lets take back our country starting on Nov.2nd vote all the incumbents
        out, replace them with tea party candidates and Republicans that have GUTS.

        vietnamvet1971

      • HFlashman

        Glad you’re retired there Sarge…..we don’t need the military polluted by that mindset you’ve displayed.

      • Angel Wannabe

        Hflashman, perhaps we should all retire?!

      • HFlashman

        If you’re currently serving in the military and such is your mindset as displayed by Sarge? Nope…20 years hard labor would be my suggestion.

      • S.C.Murf

        at least he has the courage to enlist and fight for this country. What did your dad do keep your pansy but in collage and out of harms way? 101st (up the hill)

      • HFlashman

        Murf…My father was in the second wave onto Iwo. I turned 18 the year the draft ended and as such didn’t serve. After college, I went Peace Corps and was in Central America as the Reagan supported Contras were killing and butchering civilians, priests and nuns in the name of “freedom’.

      • Ron

        S.C.Murf in response to HFlashman, says “Uh…Oh”, and slithers back under his rock.

      • Jana

        Oh no Ron, you and your anger are under that rock all by yourself!

      • Craig

        And we do not need this country polluted with idiot libs like you.

      • planoguy

        We already know how valuable the opinion of Flashman or whatever is. He is a lib, likely planted to stir things up. Possibly one of the many on Soros’s payroll – directly or indirectly. So let’s not waste any more time one this one. We have big fish to fry, and the oil will be hot on 11/2/10!

      • Schuyler aka doom

        I have to agree with you. However I have known my whole life that I was born into some hard times ahead. If you know a little bit of the scriptures. Revelations ect. then you would know that we have some apocoliptic doom getting ready to spew down upon us. revelations speaks of a religion that is the whore of all the earth that will release a holicaust that the world has never seen. It is clear at this point who the devils church is. what other religion calls you to kill all unbelievers. The concept is so opisite of Christ. Even if you know that doom is a coming you should always fight evil, or become evil youself. Let us stand together not just as American’s or where ever you live but stand together as christians in Christ. It really is the only hope that we have. The first thing that we should do is get our lives right with Christ, the second in my opionion is get rid of the muslim among us that is in the White House on Nov 2.

      • HFlashman

        Hmmm…if the first thing I have to do is gfet my life right with JC…I’d better call him. Got a number? Better yet, an email address?

        Ya disgusted or angered by that attitude? Good…think about that. What would sperate you from the Taliban then ?

        I have holier than thou hypocritical christians always trying to convert, ‘save’ etc me. I have yet to have any other religion try and force their beliefs on me.

        And…maybe you can try an explain why the Mosque two blocks away from the WTC is blasphemy…when there were TWO prayer centers in the towers AND there are strip joints within sight of the WTC ground Zero and those are Okey Dokey.

        And you wonder why people are running away from christianity…because it’s turned into something other than a private belief system…it’s turned ito a belief system which encourages cowardice, hate, and Xenophobia..

      • lynn beale

        Flashman, in love with the mirror and blind to the hate you see,

      • S.C.Murf

        hey fishman, tell that to Jesus when its your turn to stand in front of him

      • capt z

        1st, we need to get rid of the Muslims. 2nd, we need to get rid of the Mexicans. 3rd, we need to get rid of the Mormons. 4th, we need to get rid of the Roman Catholics. Then we can get started on tossing out the Baptists, 7th Day Adventists, Penticostals, and the rest of these heretics. Only after these dangerous dogmatic fools are gone will the United States be free!

      • John Betts

        I am in full agreement with you

      • Gumnaam

        MSGT Correra…Sir, do you recall that 15,000 Muslim soldiers were part of the armed forces, wearing US military uniforms, who participated in operation “Desert Storm” in 1991, the first war against Saddam’s Iraq?

      • Viktor Leben

        Gumnaam,

        Call him Master Sargent, not sir …. Or you can call him ahole, dick, but definitely not pussy ….

      • Carole

        Spot on!!
        You`re the first one I`ve heard to actually propose a solution to this dangerous ideology threatening the US and the West, in fact it`s many more countries where genocide and terrible persecution of those who are not muslims!
        I live in the UK but in a more rural area so don`t see directly what is happening here!
        I get my information online and from Christian organisations which try to inform and help Christians who are being persecuted, murdered etc. It is heartbreaking and because it is not talked about in the mainstream media hardly anyone seems to know what`s going on! It isn`t just the Christians, Jews are also having a hard time of it!
        Something has to be done before it is too late as I`m sure when they get strong enough they will start attacking us in the West.
        Please see: `Open Doors`, `Release International`, `Barnabus Fund` and there are many more websites which give good information about terrorism/persecution around the world by muslim jihadists!!

      • The Mole

        Amen brother veteran, Amen

    • refuse2lose

      The problem in the West,at least what I see in America is that we are a very gullible population. Whatever we hear on the mainstream news is considered gospel…. and our MSN does not tell the truth about Islam. It is not a peaceful religion,it is a religion built on death and domination. There is not another religion in the world that orders it’s followers to kill non-believers and dominate the world.

      If America is going to escape the reality that has overtaken Europe, then we better start telling others what is happening here. And we better stop bowing down to muslims because they might be offended by our words. IT’S OUR DAMN COUNTRY

      • Lewis Munn

        I agree. So many people in our country want nothing to do with “religion” so they cannot see the power and danger from Islaam. And they do not realize that they have a religion themselves, which usually is anti-organized-Christian-religion. They believe in it and it controls their lives and directs their action and even votes!

        Your religion is your guidance for what is right and wrong in your own life. If it is Islaam it can even make murder and murder-suicide to be good and correct actions.

        Islaam caters to the lusts of men, as so is rather anti-women. Something that a lot of folks who are so much for women’s Lib cannot see for some reason.

        They also eschew good education except when it can be used to compel others to join their faith.

        The pastor could have made his point better to have a small fire burning, and cut out and burn each page of the Qur’an that is advocating actions directly contrary to our Constitution and our Bill of Rights, and our laws based on such. There would be a much thinner book left!!

        Remember, the Qur’an and Islaam are based on the writings of a murderous highwayman, robber and womanizer, and then updated by a very rich caliph-type Ruler to fit his thoughts also. So what we have are thoughts of a successful robber and murderer, and a Ruler with absolute power over his people, fused together. And written in a dead language that only 12 interpreters claim to know!

        Read it translated to English, and weep at the implications for our culture and freedoms..

      • http://www.flickr.com/photos/woody_of_brum/ Woody
      • Wlmitch1

        The Qu’ran was written in Arabic.

      • LocalYokel

        Not quite Wlmitch1. In spite of its tangled history Islamic scholar, Abul Ala Maududi, contends that the Book has been handed down to our age in its complete and original form since the time of their Prophet Mohammad. In reality it was continually revised from the Syriac trader language of of Mecca using conflicting symbols with multiple meanings and only seventeen consonants based on Christian liturgical texts,
        Caliph Uthman ordered that all circulating copies of the Quo’ran be brought to him and compiled into a standard version for circulation. Forced translation into the emerging classic Arabic and rearrangement of chronology by sura length produced seven different translations. Then he ordered that six be burned along with all known associated script including those he promised to return to Mohammad’s eleventh wife The excuse for the burning was that different readings were the cause of Muslims fighting amongst themselves over different versions.(Book 61 no.510). Can you concede that selective burning in 650 may be the single most effective act contributing to the its “holiness” in thirteen centuries? Or would you dare to assume that it was edited into fiction for the purpose of protecting the elite that are still in power in Saudi Arabia while the Qur’an is held high as the unquestionable shield of Islam? Their sword continues to be conquest by intimidation just as it began in Medina as long as all others paid them an acessed tax for “protection”.

      • Kate8

        refuse2lose, You are right. They have shoved this idea of “multiculturalism” down our throats, controlled our attitudes toward it through political correctness, and have told us that we must embrace and celebrate these foreign cultures among us. And, at the same time, we must downplay our American culture.

        Of course, the idea is to dissolve the American culture.

        Those of us who can still see through the smokescreen understand that, once the numbers of foreigners are large enough for them to gain power, all bets are off for our citizenry. They are open about their intent to conquer us (and eliminate us), whether they be Muslim or Mexican. When this day comes, and it will if we don’t curb the problem now, they will not be our friends.

      • slickporsche

        Islam is not a religion!! It is a cult, bent on world domination through repopulation with its own members. IF you look at the workings of Islam, it is real clear it is nothing but a murderous cult with all the ways and means of such.

      • Larry Owens

        you are darn right we need to take our country back.

        you are correct look at Europe it is turning in to a Muslim nation,

        Wake UP America before it is to late.

      • Sams3

        I am actually scared that soon America will look like the middle east, and it seems no matter how much I try to tell people they are just not willing to look or listen. My eyes ar wide open, and it is scary to think there will be a gobal war soon, and that is exactly what is going to happen if everyone doesn’t stand up, and end it now.
        My children deserve freedom and happiness, and no muslim should ever say different. Look what they have done in thier own land, and others.

      • HFlashman

        “There is not another religion in the world that orders it’s followers to kill non-believers and dominate the world.”

        Really? OK…so we have the Big Lie right there folks. You do realize there are interpretations of the Bible that say just that….convert ‘em or kill ‘em.

      • kenneth

        You are full of it. What part says that? Go ahead sight it for me. Word for word or just give me the passage.

      • HFlashman

        My interpretation is correct. Yours is wrong. We should toss those who don’t agree with my interpreation in jail or out of the country.

        Hmmm…now what’s the difference between what i just wrote and what is written here on these posts today? And that is why we should never, ever allow religion into our government or public lands…ever. Frippin’ nuthouse is what we’d turn into.

        Heck…to totally seperate religion from the State we should do away with the tax exempt status of churhces etc. Y’all best hope I don’t win the lottery because that would be the case I would bring to the SCOTUS.

        BTW…anyone care to show me where in the Constitution…using your own “strict construction” interpretation…that should be allowed?

      • planoguy

        The flashman NEVER answers a challenge – because he can’t. He just spews lib double-talk and attempts to divert attention from our objectives. Ignore him (or her) – a total waste of time.

      • independant thinker

        flashinthepan……….like kenneth said give us some examples and I would add from both the New Testament as well as the opld.

      • Jana

        Well, we can definetly see from flashman and viktor all of the love eminating from the radical left.
        When they can’t get their way they become garbage mouths and hate mongers.
        GEAT EXAMPLES here of what the left stands for. We see it in action.

      • Viktor Leben

        Jana,

        I’m heckling, you are taking it to serious. It’s what guys do …

      • Jana

        Viktor,
        Well, since I am not a guy I didn’t know that’s what guys do.

      • Vicki

        There may be interpretations of the Bible that say most anything the interpreter wants said. The Bible however does not say those things. Even during the inquisition it was the power brokers not the Christians who tortured and murdered people.

        For an interesting list of the differences between Islam and Christianity check out
        http://www.dianedew.com/islam.htm

        pay particular attention to sections
        On Murder, Violence, War & Oppression
        and
        On the Treatment of Women

      • Dan-o

        Jesus is mentioned about 72 times in the Qur’an and Mohammad about 26 times, but instead of following our loving Lord and Savior the muslims prefer to follow Mohammad the mad man.

      • LocalYokel

        You need to live up to your name Flash. You’re still in the old testament and most informed rag heads know that time is running short.

      • The Mole

        You said it! The hell with this golbalization, and tolleration crap. Get rid of all these morons who want us tax payers to buy into all their BS.
        Its time to bring back industry to the US return our farmers to the fields and feed and produce for the world like our grandparents did!
        You go girl!

    • Warrior

      They are attempting to get a place at the table of the NWO.

      • tg7357

        WEll, if that is true, then we can expect Islam and the socialists to cancel each other out. Neither will give in to the other’s politics.

      • Warrior

        An therein lies the little problem of ideologies. Ultimately, who’s going to give the orders?

    • HFlashman

      Wow…where does one begin? The usual lies refuted and pointed out? the radical Talibanisc atttude in a christian cloak? The hate and inferioirty complex? The cowardly fear?

      All the above are present in the posts today.

      • Joyce from Loris

        Flashman, don’t forget ignorance, as demonstrated by your comment.

      • Don

        Someone said “I learned everything I need to know about Islam on 9/11″. That goes for me too. It’s up to the Muslim’s in this country to PROVE to us they are peacefull, by there actions not by what they say. We DO NOT OWE Muslims ANYTHING! By there actions at Ground Zero and around OUR Country, indicate that they are ar War with us and you are obviously on there side. You are the problem.

      • Kate8

        Flash’s comment is a perfect example of the rhetoric the left uses to silence voices of sanity on this, or any, issue.

        Shame, ridicule, derision. Whatever it takes to move this suicidal agenda forward.

      • slickporsche

        ——– and have no valid reason to be here. Nothing you ever fill your comments with is valid or makes any sense. You need to stay out of here. It might be bad for your health.

      • S.C.Murf

        along with your own cowardice.

      • HFlashman

        Hey Murf…I’m not the one saying we should restrict religious choice, nor kill those who aren’t christian, nor am I saying ridiculous statements which cannot be supported.

        Because a few thugs got lucky on 9/11 because of the incompetnece of the then administration, I never advocated anything restricting our Rights, liberties or freedoms. Nor have I advocated throwing people in jail without charges or public trials. Nor Have I advocated torture as a state approved technique for interrogation and questioning. Nor have I advcated ID checks on everyone..including Americans and then if they cannot provide proof of citizenship on the spot..toss ‘em in jail.

        Those are the acts of cowards. Which of the above have you advoctaed and supported?

        Can’t help it if you are.

      • planoguy

        Go back to the Huff Post – you are not wanted here.

      • Ron

        Yh, planoguy, because we respect Personal Liberty here. This place is all about personal liberty as long it is of a specific type. All of the judgementalism here would make Jesus puke!!!!

      • The Mole

        Hey Flash,
        You to are a self wetting watcher I see! Once again you poor libby’s are afraid of discussion, and debate. You know the fundamentales of a true democracy! Is it not a wonder why you want the fair doctrine to be reinstated? You can’t handle anyone disagreeing with your “global” thoughts! Ha, you guys crack me up!

    • EddieW

      Islam is an immense threat to our way of life…but…can it be stopped? The prognosis is not good at all..If you want to see what the next 25+ years will bring, give this vid a look!! It starts slow, but quickly gets to the meat!!! Islam MUST be Stopped!!!!
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9atIjykihkc

      • Joyce from Loris

        Eddie, I saw it! I had chills, it was so scary. According to their numbers, we are already doomed. I, like many of those who left comments, was a little disappointed that there were no solutions or actions that were given. What do we do?

      • S.C.Murf

        there is nothing one can do to change the course, this is how it is in the end time, only with the return of Jesus will it get changed

      • Jana

        S.C.Murf,
        That is very true, and we are not to be fearful because we do belong to God, and He is not mad at us. Only those who do not know Him need to be afraid.
        I know you didn’t say that, but just in case someone else reads this it helps to be reminded.

    • Richard Pawley

      Dan, just replacing Obama in 25 months (which is a foregone conclusion) is not going to solve the problems with a religion that has had as it’s goal world domination for more than a thousand years! It may not be politically correct to say but the only thing that can fight error is truth! When we were a nation with Judeo-Christian values and followed our Constitution this was not a problem but since we have abandoned our roots, discerning truth is a lot harder. Islam is more than just a religion. It is a way of life that is dominated from birth to death with false hopes and false beliefs. In Christianity every individual is important and every individual must ask Jesus for his unique gift of salvation. It is not automatic, but when a fully taught person experiences that, they have gone beyond belief to knowledge. In Islam one can never “know” if their god will accept them or reject them. Their description of him is not at all like the God of Christians. For instance, Jesus said, “God is love” and if the god of Islam could be described in three words it might be “God is hate”. Hatred of freedom, hatred of women, hatred of life itself. “We are more dedicated to death than you are to life” said an Islamic terrorist to the Russians. It is said that most Muslims are peaceful (or non-religious) and only 7 to 10 percent are the murderers and killers the world fears. Still, that 7 to 10 percent is in the neighborhood of 100,000,000 people and as I said in one of my books, “you cannot easily defeat people who are dedicated to the god of death rather than the god of life with just laser guided weapons and missiles”. Truth is all we have, and many in this nation reject that. William Penn for whom the state of Pennsylvania was named said, “Those who will not live under God (the wisdom and rules he revealed to us in the Bible) will live under tyrants.” For non-Muslims to live in a Muslim dominated country it is much like small business trying to operate under our current tax laws and health care changes and all the new rules of our socialist leaning government. Such businesses don’t know what is coming next, it’s chaotic, so they don’t expand and they don’t hire. They are waiting until things settle down and they know what rules and laws they will be bound by under this new government. They don’t know what is going to happen next so they wait to see. Under a good Caliph times might be good but under a bad one non-Muslims may well be persecuted and killed, their land and goods stolen. When a nominal Christian “gets religion” (to quote the leftist media) meaning he or she actually experiences God in their life according to ACTS 2 of the New Testament, they are changed for the better, alcoholics stop drinking, the negative emotions are reduced, drug addicts give up drugs, and more that most who have no idea about this would simply not believe possible. If they are properly taught the transformation, sometimes instantaneous, sometimes over decades, can be amazing. I have seen things that are beyond belief and I would not tell of them here simply because ordinary worldly people couldn’t conceive of such things being true. Sadly, when a nominal Muslim “gets religion” we have things like the Ft. Hood massacre. Even sadder (for them), is that all humans are bound by certain universal principals or laws that govern the Universe. You don’t have to believe in the Law of Gravity but if you jump off a cliff you will fall towards the larger object below you, the earth. Likewise what is called the Law of Reciprocity by some, explains the simple words of Jesus, “As you sow, so shall you reap”. Those who cause terror and fear in others, those who wantonly murder their enemies in the name of Allah or Jihad, they themselves must experience all the terror and pain that they cause others. That is simply one of the Laws of the Universe. “Those who slay with the sword must be slain with the sword,” is not something that we need to fulfill like the religious Saudi’s who want to severe the spinal cord of a man who in a fight stabbed his opponent and crippled him. The man’s relatives demand it under the despicable and primitive Sharia law. It is not for mankind to fulfill the laws of the Universe unless we are taking upon ourselves the mantle of God. Such people like the Saudi Secret Police (whom I mention in “The Last Days of the Late Great United States”) will have to experience all the terror they cause to others as will the terrorists. Mass murderers and suicide bombers are condemning themselves to pain and suffering on a scale that most cannot imagine. It’s the law of the Universe, regardless of whether we believe it or not. Only by accepting the forgiveness that Jesus earned for us on the cross can we escape the terrors that awaits us if we are an unrepentant sinner. Those who commit crimes for other reasons must also pay the penalty if they are not forgiven. So you can see that suicide bombers are the most pitiable of creatures, dangerous to be sure, but they must not be hated. Jesus said not to hate your enemies. Why? Because you are harming yourself when you do. You may have to kill them but don’t hate them. His word to soldiers was telling as well, “Be content with your pay.” While those who know the truth must oppose Islam they should not fearful or disrespectful. Only truth can save our nation, us, or even Muslims. There are over a hundred mosques in NYC and the location of the one currently being fought over is paramount. It is a symbol of conquest and dominance. More than 60 Muslims were killed in the World Trade Center but that is of no consequence to the True Believer’s. Their perverted beliefs hold all others in contempt. They worship death and when they cross over to the life beyond this one they will have more of what is called eternal death than hopefully any reading this can ever even imagine. God IS loving but He is also JUST. If our nation had continued to live according to the teachings of the Bible and the beliefs of our founding fathers we would not have the problems we have now, but it has to begin inside each person. Renewal and restoration must begin within the human heart. Islam does not change hearts, neither does psychology. Religion doesn’t change hearts either. The most religious being who has ever existed was named Lucifer until he chose to become what we call Satan, the chief of demons. Only God changes hearts and it is a marvel to behold sometimes when he does. Humans who shake their fist at the sky are like ants screaming at the sun compared to the power and glory of God, and the crazy insane message of the Bible is that God loves us and wants us to be happy and fulfilled and to live life to it’s fullest and that is what the basics of the Bible are all about. I’m reminded of when Khrushchev shook his fist in the United Nations in 1959 and said to the western world (and the USA specifically) “We will bury you!” That remains to be seen but religious Muslims are far more dangerous because THEY really want to bury us, and if the world allows Iran to acquire nuclear weapons they will surely use them, first on Israel and then wherever they choose. The most religious in Iran want a war where at least 100,000,000 will die. Remember there are an estimated 45,000 Muslims who have slipped in along with the Hispanics from Mexico that Harry Reid and others want to make into instant citizens. One smuggling ring won’t even bother smuggling Hispanics because the Muslims pay so much better. We are in the classic fight between good and evil and if we are losing it is because we don’t even know a war is going on. Remember these 100,000,000 worship death. The wealthy upstate NY Muslim businessman and owner of a TV Station was acting out his heritage when he cut off the head of his wife who had the audacity to want a divorce. The Muslim father who killed his two teenage daughters in Texas because they talked to boys from their high school at the mall was no different. We may someday have a WWIII with the forces of this cult-like religion and millions will die and that will be to their liking. I’m just glad that I know my life
      here is “just a parenthesis in a sentence in a paragraph on the page of the book of…” my life. What we do here is important but it is only a tiny part of all that there is. Remember to vote in November or mere physical survival will be our biggest concern in a few short years. May God bless all who read this and may they someday learn how very much God loves them.

      • kenneth

        Right on Richard. Very well said. Wish you could e-mail that to me so I could spread that around. The people I love need to hear this just as you have wrote it. Thanks

      • Jana

        Kenneth,
        You can copy and paste it into your email or word.

      • Jana

        Richard, that was a great article that you wrote. I agree with it all the way. As you said, we definitely do not hate these people. Dealing with different Muslims, you find they are really nice people. Very misguided but nice. We do hate what they stand for, so does God.
        Another point is according to most Muslims, very few women will make it to heaven.

      • libertytrain

        there are a series of “buttons” directly under the article that would allow you to do any number of things.

      • S.C.Murf

        Your message of Jesus changing lives is right on the money. After spending 2 years in nam (101st) I came home and crawled into a bottle of booze and stayed drunk for 7 years. I could not go 34 minutes without a drink. After getting down on my knees and asking Jesus into my heart and to take over my life I haven’t found it necessary to take a drink in 34 years. Praise Jesus. Getting down on your knees puts you in good standing with GOD

      • Schuyler aka doom

        Thank You Richard for your words of hope and peace. We need more people in this world who think and have faith as you have desplayed. I know what I have read is the truth. It is what lingers in my heart as well. sometimes it is hard the see the big picture when you live in a small portrat. We must try to scurge the doomed individuals from among us without becomming one. Nov, 02 Is a leagal and peaceful way of this process. Take care and God bless.

      • dan az

        Richard pawley
        thanks for that! truth is but a beginning to an end!

    • T

      The ideology of “islam” conforms to most of the requirements that qualify it as a cult. The muslim “religion” is therefore not a religion but a cult that is based on violence and non-tolerance. They are so violent natured though, that to classify “islam” as a cult would cause world war 3. The reading of the koran needs to be banned in America and other free countries as it promotes murder and child molestation and theft and spousal abuse. Their idol “muhamed” was a cheat and a pedophile yet many muslims are so willing to lay down their lives “to protect” his reputation. People all over the world need to wake up. There needs to be a law against many of the koran teachings that promote violence and murder and theft. There is no honor in worshiping a violent pedophile as your hero.

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