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The Hamburger Of Hypocrisy

September 21, 2010 by  

The Hamburger Of Hypocrisy

Call it “televised serendipity”:  A moment in which two members of the Democrat Party leadership get together and reveal the political deformities which have turned the “big tent” into a circus sideshow. Under normal circumstances — a President Barack Obama press conference, for example — the groveling sycophants in the corporate media allow these boors to babble on without interruption.

While Americans with IQs above the intellectual Mendoza line simply tune out, most liberals remain enraptured, downloading the latest talking points, feverishly anticipating their next opportunity to regurgitate the drivel with the kind of self-importance otherwise reserved for sociopaths and trial lawyers. On occasion, however, more than one of the liberal ruling elite top-rung types end up sharing the same patch of real estate — and then we have to watch as they fog up our screens with unbridled expressions of love for each other — and scorn for the rest of us.

One of those serendipitous moments presented itself late last week, when fleshy filmmaker Michael Moore visited the set of liberal rat-terrier Bill Maher’s Real Time. While both are fairly high-ranking members of the DNC elite, neither is apparently aware that the zaftig Moore makes Rosie O’Donnell look like the “after” picture in a Weight Watchers commercial while Maher is only slightly funnier than an 8-car pileup on the expressway.

Such lack of awareness might explain how these two stooges could have a conversation in which Moore opined:

“…people like Gingrich and Palin? You know, because they’re essentially our mullahs, you know, our Taliban. Hey, how about that McDonald’s two blocks from Ground Zero, Bill?  That’s killed more people than the 19 hijackers…”

Evidently, I missed the nationwide APB for the Hamburglar on Sept. 12.

That’s right, kids — the mammoth movie maker says that Speaker Gingrich, Governor Palin and Egg McMuffins are more sinister than Islamofascism. Perhaps he simply prefers the Whopper to the Big Mac. But the idea that Moore would heave his Brobdingnagian bulk into frame and equate Mayor McCheese with militant Muslims has to be a new low-water mark for the liberal ruling class.

Maher and his carefully screened audience reacted with that smarmy snicker that the Democrats apparently teach in wingnut school. No one noted that the elephantine Moore, who helmed the camera for some of the most deservedly discredited “documentaries” since Leni Riefenstahl was making 8mm loops of Hitler doing the goose step shuffle, might be stretching his minimal credibility farther than the weakening waistband on his jockey shorts.

The good news for those of us with cerebral cortices larger than garlic knots: in addition to being shortchanged in the intellect and talent departments, the liberal ruling elite possess the subtlety of the cast of an MTV reality show. Moore and Maher’s get together was filmed in front of a live studio audience and broadcast to every household which subscribes to HBO.

For those of you who lament the lack of political acumen displayed by America’s peach fuzz generation, millions of viewers, er… thousands, um… hundreds, ah… dozens, ok… more kids saw the gargantuan gasbag Moore compare Newt Gingrich, Sarah Palin and their beloved Ronald McDonald unfavorably with the Taliban than have ever sat through more than a few moments of Chris Matthews nightly tingle-time. They also observed Maher, the junior varsity Jon Stewart, laugh along with the oleaginous auteur without noting that to date, no Fry Guy has ever taken so much as a single flying lesson, much less tried to carry a box cutter onto a commercial jet.

These are the people who have taken over the Democrat Party. These are the people who launch invective at Limbaugh, Beck and Hannity. These are the people who call us racists for opposing — or even daring to question — the Obama agenda. These are the people who opened verbal fire on Christine O’Donnell (who once graced Maher with her presence) mere hours after her ground-shaking victory in Delaware. These are the people who would demand you execrate Sarah Palin while exalting Nancy Pelosi.

At a time when the Democrat party has plunged the country into economic ennui, flatlined our foreign relations and rendered our immigration protections inert, they offer us clowns like Moore and Maher, the haphazard and humorless Laurel and Hardy.

Moore and Maher are members of the liberal leadership so we can divine that this is the direction in which the left is leaning these days. But fret not, my friends, more and more Americans are paying attention.

Forgive me for saying so, but come November:

Ba-da-ba-ba-baaa, I’m lovin’ it.

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • http://www.personalliberty.com Ben Crystal (Author)

    Folks – before we get too wrapped up in an examination of my verbosity, let’s also note that I managed to work The Hamburglar, Mayor McCheese and the Fry Guys into the piece.

    My only regret here is that I couldn’t find a place for Grimace.

    McDonald/McCheese 2012!

    • Raggs

      Pelosi the Grimace? prehaps Reid?

      I can think of many democrat’s that would fit the profile.

      • http://www.personalliberty.com Ben Crystal (Author)

        I was thinking of Bill Clinton; but that’s too easy.

      • marvin

        Ben Crystal (Author) what about the peanut man carter??

      • a progressive nightmare

        Agreed!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Ben Crystal,
        Your verbosity was a McFlurry of words against the progs!!!!

    • JeffH

      Don must be an ignoramus.
      ig·no·ra·mus  [ig-nuh-rey-muhs, -ram-uhs] Show IPA –noun, plural -mus·es. an extremely ignorant person.

      • Raggs

        Don got spanked…. LMAO!

      • lynn

        you could have made your point without all the ‘fat’ jokes and asides. when 1/3 of the country is obese or morbidly obese, they may not get the point of the article or get thru the whole article. i found the ‘fat’ mentions’ distasteful and mean. i weigh 120.

      • Raggs

        Maybe you need “unk” barrack to do your thinking?

        After all it is a parasite that has no brain but does more damage..

        You need to think for yourself! and if you do not your bud obama will suck the life from you…

        I only have one thing he can suck, it’s not going to be a pretty day.

      • JeffH

        lynn, no room for bleeding hearts here. Can I suggest MSNBC’s Newsvine blog for you?

  • Howard Roark

    The Supreme Court was absolutely correct in its decision that Corporations also have free speech. The First Amendment says that, (Congress SHALL MAKE NO LAW ABRIDGING THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH.) you see it says NO LAW. that means that the Congress can not single out corporations and say that because they are not living things that they do not have free speach.

    And what about news papers. they are corporations. You probably noticed that Congress exemped news papers. could it be that the lame stream media has become the pals of the progressives.

  • Raggs

    Good article.

    However I never watch Maher or any of the other obama fantasy land clowns.

    I find it beneath me to watch such foolish media or so called entertainment….

    • independant thinker

      I watched maher a couple of times years ago and he was almost as bad as rosie about interupting the people with opposing views and not letting them talk as she is so I stopped.

      • planoguy

        Yes, Maher’s ego is far superior to his actual ability. He is a jerk.

      • Claire

        Maher?? It never ceases to amaze me how people like this become what they are-comedians, wealthy, etc. I wouldn’t watch Maher if he was the last comedian on earth. Ugh.

  • FreedomFighter

    I think Doctor Savage got it right:

    “Liberalism is a mental disorder.”

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    • a progressive nightmare

      That’s for sure!

    • Robert Smith

      Over 70 years ago there was the first Doc Savage, the Man of Bronze. He said: “Before we go… let us remember our code. Let us strive every moment of our lives to make ourselves better and better to the best of our abilities so that all may profit by it. Let us think of the right and lend our assistance to all who may need it, with no regard for anything but justice. Let us take what comes with a smile, without loss of courage. Let us be considerate of our country, our fellow citizens, and our associates in everything we say and do. Let us do right to all – and wrong no man.”

      Rob

      • planoguy

        Great Rob! How about you go ahead and give your FULL paycheck to help? That’s the lib progressive way, right? You DO get a paycheck, don’t you? Surely you aren’t one of the hogs at the feed trough, taking away deserved dollars from folks that REALLY could use a helping hand? You don’t get it! You libs are the greatest suckers in the world. And BHO is force feeding you. Too bad, you had SO much promise as a kid….

      • http://naver samurai

        That sounds like none of the cowards and traitor we have now.

  • Mondovibe
    • Vicki

      And you won’t find any truth there. Just a series of unsupported ad-hominim attacks against people that don’t vote democrate and guess who Yep Bush.

      now for some actual truth.
      Barny Frank did it.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs (4:50 into the clip)

  • http://personalliberty.com Gordon Campbell

    Michael,didn’t you get the irony?He was doing exactly what the liberals do so well-ad hominum.If you didn’t see that go back and read it again.It must have zoomed right over your head.For those who complained about polysyllabic words and a clever turn of phrase READ more,use a thesaurus,educate yourselves.EVERYTHING can’t be dumbed down for you.

  • http://personalliberty.com Gordon Campbell

    All you have to do is read Flashmans sneering,condescending,superior letter berating all us knuckledraggin’ mouthbreathers to gain crystal clear insight into the liberal psyche.They really do think they are born to rule;not govern,rule.They are about to get a huge kick in the rear end in November and the smear campaigns that are coming to link Tea-Partiers with extremism will only enrage the committed and anger the moderates.I’ve seen this before in Canadian politics and it leaves the protagonist looking like a Looney Tunes character after he has just been handed a lit stick of dynamite by Bugs or Wiley E.
    Come on America take your country back.Maybe Alex Baldwin really will keep his promise to leave the country-THIS TIME.He ain’t comin’ here,the Great White North.Oh and by the way for all you sticklers of residence-Conservatism has no borders.

  • http://Yahoo Michael

    Although I agree with most of your thoughts, I evidently fall below the Mendoza line because I find your writing to be pedantic. I am an Independent and try to find the wisdom in all arguments whether conservative or liberal. I think you would be more effective attacking liberal failed policies rather than their personalities.

    • (WIA) Wild Indian in Action

      Michael try this for wisdom….. Government Taxation equals Slavery.

      • 45caliber

        (WIA):

        The definition of a slave is someone who works so that someone else gets the benefit of his labor. That describes the tax payers to a tee.

      • Robert Smith

        From 45: >>>The definition of a slave is someone who works so that someone else gets the benefit of his labor. <<<

        By your definition: Then the workers who punch the time clocks in America are slaves to all those stock holders.

        Rob

      • Mik

        Rob,
        You need to take a course in analogies.
        No – your def of slavery does not compute.
        1. Those working in those positions get paid a wage (less the taxation – the part that they are a slave to)
        2. They would not have that Job were it not for the SHAREOWNERS whose capital created the company that allowed the job to exist in the first place. The Owners of this company INVESTED THEIR MONEY into this company and took a risk that it would be profitable. If it was, then they would get a return on their investment. If the company was not profitable – then they would lose the money they invested. This is not slavery to the worker.

        Please go back to school and get a really education, but make sure it is not in one of the Progressive States where they teach that Sharowners are Slaveowners. They are people who create jobs for people who want to get off welfare and unemployment.

      • planoguy

        Mik is dead on accurate. It is really getting tiring hearing crybabies complaining because someone gave them a job! Why is it a crime to make a buck? Anyone one here work for free (except the independently wealthy)?

  • s c

    Where’s George Carlin when you need him? As long as Herr Obummer and his deluded moonbats are in charge, America needs all the humor it can get. Moore is usually funny when he talks, but it’s not because he’s a comedian. Maher needs long-term therapy for the drugs that rob him of any sense of humor.
    Biden is one of the few members of ‘The DUH Party’ who can make people laugh. But, Biden doesn’t get it. He’s no comedian. People laugh AT him because he always has at least one foot in his mouth. Then, there’s Obummer, who has no sense of humor, can’t read from a teleprompter, has no original ideas and has done absolutely nothing to deserve being in the White House.

    • marvin

      s c the only reason odumbo is in the white house is he promised more handout to them that won,t work, and amnesty to illegals,and the unions, got 800 million in 5 and 10 dollar donations, never think obama an,t black from head to toe he has never talked or even acted like any thing other, just watch his speech to the black caucus obama thinks what his is his and what your is up for grabs,this man is a racist,in his speech it was all about getting the black voter to vote for them and him

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Marvin,
        I got a real kick out of that Black lady dressing him down on the news reel of the town hall meeting!!! Said she is tired from defending him and his cabinet!!! Said she is tired of waiting to see his “change”!! the Best by far, though, is where she said she thought her days of beans and weenies were over but that seems to be the way we are heading!!! she sounds like she’s regretting voting for him!!!

    • http://electionfraud.com organik

      It’s very sad this libertarian view of things. I think you’d all like to see us return to the era of robber barons. Yes, govt. is corrupt and broken, but you think un-checked corporate power is better? Love the corporations hate the unions? It’s just ridiculous to me, your lack of grasping history. Don’t forget about our socialist police departments, fire departments, roads, etc. Liberals gave us the 40 hour work week, overtime, etc. etc. the list goes on and on. If you prefer no middle class at all, being a serf to some multinational corporation that couldn’t give s sh$t about America, then vote for the tea party in November. And PLEASE remember most of our founders were DEISTS, NOT Christians, the word GOD is NOT in the constitution, and some of our founders were VERY liberal…like Thomas Paine! If you bothered to actually read him instead of Beck’s interpretation you’d know that. This IS class warfare, and believe or not I’m on your side. Astro-turf tea party movement funded by millionaires and billionaires represents their interests, which aren’t yours – unless you’re rich. This country was founded as a WE country, not a ME country, stop being so selfish with regard to health care, taxes, etc. Don’t you care about your fellow American?

      • 45caliber

        Two hundred years ago you could be liberal and still believe in God. It is only in the last thirty years or so that liberals have begun to believe that liberals and God cannot go together. Actually most of the Founding Fathers were Christian. Even Thomas Jefferson said he was. They established the government here based on the Christian beliefs of freedom and fair play. The liberals are now saying that it was never that way – and that we shouldn’t expect it as a result.

        For any civilization to exist, there has to be a set of morals establlished that all people follow. The liberal belief that there is none or should be none is what is wrong with much of our society today.

        If you don’t believe it God, that is your problem (literally). But don’t try to insist that everyone else doesn’t believe in God either just to justify yourself.

      • Robert Smith

        From 45: >>>It is only in the last thirty years or so that liberals have begun to believe that liberals and God cannot go together. <<<

        Bzzzzzz, FALSE. Patently FALSE.

        Rev. Mary D. Glasspool, is the second openly gay bishop in the Episcopal Church.

        Last I heard Episcopals were christians.

        Bishop Gene Robinson was the first. Remember? It was in all the papers.

        Anyone else hear about Bishop Spong?

        You know, I'll bet Mary Channey is christian.

        Rob

      • planoguy

        Gay – and Christian? Someone didn’t read the Bible’s view on gays…..

      • http://naver samurai

        If you believe all these things you say, fine. Just don’t say a person believes these things is a Christian. It’s inconceiveable to say you are a Christian, but live in rebellion to the Bible. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! Starting to feel the heat yet, Rob? If not, I have a 20 ton dump truck of coal to stoke the furnace for you.

      • 45caliber

        Rob:

        There are Christians … and there are “cafeteria christians”. They are not the same. A Christian believes what the Bible says. A cafeterial christian is someone that picks and chooses what to believe. Spong is a cafeterial christian since she is gay – otherwise she wouldn’t be gay. And somehow I don’t believe God – or Jesus – is a cafeterial God.

      • 45caliber

        Oh, I forgot. You asked if I cared about my fellow American. I do … although there are times I’m not sure I should. And I take care of them when necessary. Notice that I said “I” take care of them; not that the government does.

        Why should I spend billions of dollars to put up intermediates between me and those who have a problem? And why should I be concerned about people who are too lazy to work for a living and want to simply lay around and watch TV all day rather than get a job? If they want to not work, it is their affair … but it is also MY business if I decide that I don’t have to give them anything to do it.

        Taxes? We need them to provide the minimum security we need. We don’t need them for everything. And health care? Again, I’m willing to help – but only those who really need it. And “I” make the decision.

      • 45caliber

        Just a note. Over 90% of the money allocated to Welfare gets spend in administration of the program. In fact, I believe that less than 3% gets to the people. If you want to solve hte problem, first shut down Welfare. Then have the IRS cut a check (they are equipt to do it) to the people who show less than the poverty level. You would save billions and get more to the people.

      • http://guy@reogiant.com guyb

        Liberals are in control of our great country and they are running us into an economic nightmare that we can not wake up from… No,Its not Bushs fault….. Obama and reid and pelosi always blame Bush… Bush is no longer the president…Bush did not force them to bailout the banks,auto industry,wall street and write a 787 billion dollar no job creating stimulus bill that can not be auditted and accounted for…The liberal democrats were in charge in congress and the senate and the house for alot of the years Bush was president and they are in charge now…..pelosi got her new jet and America got there new jet payment….pelosi and obama and reid cut the water to 50,000 farm workers and there farms in northern california and pelosi still gets all the water she wants for her multi millon dollar northern california vineyards. Can you say Liberals????? Can you say SOLDOUT???? Republicans and democrats are to blame for this major mess but republicans want tax cuts and democrats want tax increases…I want someone who really loves our great country to run for president and I mean someone who will put America and the American people first and who is willing not to be bought out and it can be either party….. Lets vote out all the anti Americans in office and get all new elected officals into positions that love our great nation and who will not sell us out to the middle east and radial muslims. Lets take our country back….

      • Robert Smith

        from guyb: >>>Bush did not force them to bailout the banks,auto industry,wall street <<<

        Really? He sure showed them how: "Congressional negotiators emerged today and announced they had reached a deal in principal on President Bush's $700 billion proposal to buy up a mountain of Wall Street debt that has threatened to torpedo the U.S. economy."

        That's from: http://a.abcnews.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=5879591&page=1

        Rob

      • planoguy

        Just because it’s on ABC does not make it true. Go back to the Huff Post – your master is calling you.

      • http://naver samurai

        OK, but what about all these unconstitutional bailouts given by Obama bin Laden? Can you answer me about why those are OK, but maybe Bush’s weren’t? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • jopa

    The only reason I get HBO is to watch Bill Maher.He is hilarious,informative,genuine,honest, and the list goes on with his credibility.He gets some of the best political guests and a lot of todays people in the news.I would recommend it to anyone who would like to expand on their political knowledge.

    • http://ajb221@cox.net AJB OKIE

      jopa you are a total idot stick your head back in the sand or you might see the real world……..

    • Joyce from Loris

      You must like watching paint dry as well. You need a life, friend.

      • eddie47d

        Joyce are you being honest? At 11;17am on the 21st you said you never watch TV. So how could you know whether Bill Maher is funny or not? Are you just repeating what someone else has said? Oppsie!

    • marvin

      jopa ,the illegal have you been smoking crack or are you just plain stuped

    • Fast Freddy

      jopa, you are kidding aren’t you? I think that you praised that no-talent bum Maher just to get a rise out of out here who aren’t brain-dead, right? Anybody who thinks that Maher is funny and relevant has to be just as twisted and perverted as he is. I have a hunch that even his mother changes the channel when he comes on.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Fast Freddy,
        Are you kidding?? If you ever see him grab his arm in pain, it’s his mother with a voodoo doll!!!!

    • Craig

      I agree. Watch Maher to see how utterly ignorant the liberals are. The stupidity on display on his show is hilarious.

  • G. Blair

    I almost deleted your address when I saw the article about McDonalds and Moore. Thanks for not disappointing me! gb

  • Dano

    I wish we had a strong 3rd party. I’m tired of this.

    • (WIA) Wild Indian in Action

      Dano, look up the Constitutional Party.

    • meteorlady

      There are at least 15 political parties. The media does not give them any coverage, nor do they try and legitimize them in any way. In fact, they media loves to vilify these parties or make them look like fringe elements because they are a threat to the two party system of control in this country.

  • http://n/a Robo

    For HFlashman and others: It is not about Republicans vs Democrats. Snap out of it. There is only one party — THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS! If you get caught up in Republicans vs Democrats, Obama vs Bush I or II, Clinton vs Reagan, etc., everyone loses. Don’t get into defending Newt Gingrich; he’s a long standing tried and true CFR boy tied in completely to the New World Order agenda. ALL of the Presidents and Presidential candidates since JFK have ALL been CFR. Step back and get the REAL big picture. Those that created the CFR are the same people that created and snuck in the Federal Reserve. They have a plan and arguing Dems vs Reps plays right into it to keep you upset and distracted. Those who will attack this view are simply unwilling or unable to SNAP OUT OF IT! BTW, McDonald’s probably has killed untold numbers with their poison masqueraded as food.

    • Joyce from Loris

      I am no fan of McDonald’s, but unlike the liberals, I do believe that all people should have the right to eat what they darn well please, and suffer the consequences as well. I see no reason to build a car that will go 160 mph either, but my Crossfire will go that fast! I, by law, can’t drive it that fast, but, by law, Chrysler can build them! Go figure.

      • Craig

        Ain’t freedom of choice a cool thing? give the liberals the chance and nobody will have freedom of choice. They hate freedom and all the cool things it brings.

      • eddie47d

        Craig; “no freedom of choice with liberals”? Whoa! What apple wagon did you fall off of? You’ve eaten too many Carl Jr.’s triple burgers and the fat has settled in your noggin. We like cars and I-Pods and computers and warm houses. We only feel there is a better way of achieving those cool things. Not everything has to be purchased through over the top greed and environmental damage.

    • meteorlady

      They also LOVE to promote racism as it also keeps people separate and divided.

      • eddie47d

        Racism is racism no matter who is promoting it. I hardly think liberals even come close to having a strangle hold on that issue.

  • john

    It all starts in the schools or at least in the home..don’t allow the leftist babble and the political madness of diversity and inclusiveness that they spew in schools to soak into the minds of your children and whatever your faith may be ..you better start practicing it..because they’re trying very hard to take God out of everything.If we turn our backs on God..we will be handed over to our enemies.If you want to see what life is like under a regime that denies the existence of God..look at Stalinist Russia,China,N Korea,Nazi Germany.GotGod?

  • TIME

    Bill Maher as I have met him I can tell you he is equal to a dog with bad gas as far as his personality goes, and really thats giving him more credit than I should.

    Think more along the lines of a Quasi level at best on his intellect, and agressively ignorant as far as his knoledge levels on anything and I do mean anything.
    That would include his hygiene methods, he smells funny, I mean he really smells funny. His teeth always have some kind of gunk on them too, whats the deal with that?

    It just goes to show someone who’s not funny others than smelling funny gets a Telie show, this is one of the reasons I did the disconnect on the telie years ago.

    Really whats on the Telie thats worth watching? What sports where you have a gang of fruit loops telling you what you just saw? As if you can’t figure it out.

    The news where its so contrived that unless your brain dead its bloody obvious, even to the blind and deft.

    Or the canned humor shows where the humor is just slightly above a 3rd graders humor level. And thats a real strech.

    Or the movie of the week done by an agressivly pompous buffoon in most cases, who has zero talent at acting, but has opinions you really need to hear about.

    Ok so again whats on the Telie thats really worth squat?
    The time you spend watching the Telie you can never get back, its lost forever and you have gained nothing, learned nothing, and now have a few hours less in your life to do anything that has meaning or value.

    But hey thats just my thoughts, what are your’s?

    • Joyce from Loris

      Time, I agree. I tuned out of the television years ago. I have witnessed people who would LOSE SLEEP in order to watch a dumb ball game. They could care less about what is going on in the world, but knew all the ball scores, who played on what team, etc.! Ridiculous. Add all that to the sit com’s about homosexuals, the cop shows, American Idol, etc…. I mean, what is left? Nothing. I do watch Fox News sometimes, but they lean a little liberal for me as well. You can’t watch Hannity anymore, Bob Beckle is always there, and I just can’t stomach him. Greta is so concerned about the mexicans being PROFILED, but not concerned at all that they are here taking American jobs and welfare money. O’Reilly has Juan Williams set in for him??? Really, Juan Williams, a liberal???

      • chuck b

        joyce from loris

        for awhile i thought i was the only one complaining about the news programs on fox. i always appreciate a different view as long as the person doesn’t get obnoxious. fox seems to go overboard for some of these obnoxious liberals, alan colmes, bob beckle and dumber than dumb juan williams. bill o’reilly is nothing more than a closet democrat and playing the independent card. i don’t really trust glenn beck, there’s something there he is cleverly covering up and i can’t put my finger on it. i hope i’m wrong, he says a lot that i agree with. sean hannity is probably the only true conservative, but his choice of having beckle on his show leaves me wondering.

      • dahni uru

        For me, Beckel is the same as Moore. I try to get info from a few different sites on tv, and more from newspapers online as well as blogs, where many do present sources for their data. I think we’re split three ways: liberals, rightists and the rest of us who want mainly to support/maintain a social/economic structure in which we have Rights as well as Responsibilities.

      • CharlieC

        Why Beckel? Well, Hannity needs a target to throw the football at, doesn’t he!

    • independant thinker

      RFDTV, History channel, Discovery channel, local news. Some cable and satalite providers offer the outdoor channel or another hunting/fishing oriented channel which I cannot remember at the moment.

      • Robert Smith

        >>>RFDTV<<<

        Didn't they carry Imus for a long time after he lost his slot on a bigger network?

        He has since gone onto a Fox network.

        Rob

    • 45caliber

      Time:

      You are right. My television has been hooked only to a DVD player for years now. My wife complains occasionally – but she knows it is doubtful that I would ever hook it back to an antenna. Even if I do, she knows it goes off when I get home from work.

      Try watching a “humor” show without the canned laughter. It is so seldom that I see or hear anything that I think is remotely funny. They depend upon the canned laughter to make you think it might be funny.

      The only thing she insists she wants TV for is weather – but I’ve found the reports I get on the computer are much better.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      time ,
      right now I’m watching a man talk about bummer care and how the original bill has DOUBLED in size since it became law due to regulations!!!! that means they can say about anything they want and it’s up to us to prove it wrong!!! The man just said he isn’t a lawyer and Gretta said QUIT BRAGGING!!!! LOL!!!

      • TIME

        Joe, I quite watching TV years ago, I have never felt I have lost anything by doing so.
        I have an ability to see through people so when I meet a person who is say in Congress or the Senate, etc. after speaking with them for even just a few moments, I can size them up into three slots;
        #1, Outright lyre.
        #2, Out for themselfs and screw everyone else.
        #3, Honest – confused, and trying hard.

        Of the 3 slots only 10% fit in group number 3.

        Slot #1, is nearly 70%
        Slot #2, is about 20%

        Now give or take a few points per unit but its all going to be within a 1% margin.

        I have made my living off reading people, after 40 years of doing so I have been wrong and thats not 100% totaly but partly wrong only 3 times.
        I have to say I trust my gut instincts, I have done very well doing so.

  • Phil Sanchez

    The destructive, vicious comments by Maher feed his sheep followers and Moore is just looking to regain some spotlight with his over the top comments. Fortunately fewer and fewer people pay attention to them. Freedom of speech is sometimes painful to watch, but thier constant demonization of anything conservative won’t gain them any more audience than their closed minded minions.

    I can see November from my house!

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Phil,
      hell I can see it from my recliner!!! With my eyes closed!!! I can see me pulling the lever conservative as well!!

  • David

    Our country has split in two…luckily for us normal folk the split isn’t in equal parts. We just need to clean up a little and retake our country.

  • Norm

    Ben
    I’ll grant you that Moore and Maher are far lefty’s. Moore is also not always big on reality. On the other hand, your unflattering remarks about Moore’s weight are right out the grade school playground. Secondly Moore’s documentaries, like them or not are not, are well made and entertaining, not unlike some of Rush, Glenn and Sean’s drivel.
    As for Maher, he is hilarious. He also makes some very good points. He recently said he respected Christine O’Donnell’s enthusiasm and said she had a place in government somewhere – just not on the intelligence committee. Is that not true? Is that not funny?
    Again your cheap shots and baseless allegations are so typical of the far right’s inability to tolerate anything but its own brand of BS.

    • Craig

      Moore is a fat un-intelligent fat slob and a liar. McDonald’s has never killed anybody.

      • Norm

        Craig
        It’s created a lot of fat people though.

      • Joyce from Loris

        Norm, McDonald did not create any fat people. People CHOOSE to eat that food, they were not forced. There are plenty of places that sell fating foods as well. WE all have choices, you can’t blame McDonald on that one.

      • s c

        Joyce, I’m amazed that Herr Obummer hasn’t seen McDonald’s as an easy revenue source. If eating at McDonald’s is so “bad” for people (and lets Uncle Scam rape America again), then TAX the crap out of it! That’s a very old tax tactic.
        It makes me wonder what Herr Obummer’s mony czars are thinking. Easy money = easy power. Isn’t Herr
        Herr Obummer concerned about people getting their arteries clogged? Those people pose a threat to his precious healthcare scam.
        I thought the Chicago Messiah cared about America. Or is he just another effing politician? Is he more concerned with appearances? The answer is . . .

      • marvin

        Joyce from Loris, wrong a liberal can blame anyone does bush come to mindbeen out of office for 2 years ,like the lady that order a cup of coffee at mac burger poured it in her lap and got 3 million for being stuped,when a normal person make,s a mistake they try not to repeat it,when a liberal makes a mistake they blame you,then do the same thing agin

      • blv54

        GMO food must have something to do with the obesity epidemic that and inactivity I was a kid in the 60s we ate mcdonalds all the time plus tons of butter and fried food everyone did but their wasn’t near the amount of fat people we have now everything is poisoned now in one way or another and how about some good crabs from the gulf anyone?

      • momo

        Hey Norm, you need to relax. Go order a Big Mac.

      • Vicki

        Norm. There were fat people LONG before there were MacDonalds. There are however not many fat people in third world countries where most of them don’t get enough to eat.

        Fat people is a sign of wealth of a nation or people.
        http://adage.com/china/article?article_id=145320

      • eddie47d

        Vickie; I saw your China clip but don’t fully agree with the outcome. Overly fat people are not a sign of wealth no matter how much money that person has. They lack respect for their own bodies and little self control in their decision making. Overweight people are less active and do become lazy as Craig said. Being a Twiggy has it’s own set of problems too. I eat too much beef even after my wife and I say we won’t do it. So we all bend our own rules once in awhile.

      • Craig

        No Norm, McDonald’s did not create fat people. Those people had choices. Nobody forced them to eat McDonalds. Fat people caused themselves to get fat by their bad choices and being lazy.

      • Vicki

        Unlike the Fedgov which now forces us to buy health insurance

      • Robert Smith

        From Craig: >>>McDonald’s has never killed anybody.<<<

        OK, in the absolute sense nobody has a gun to their head to eat at Micky D's.

        However, there are only a few things on their menu that don't have high fructose corn serup in them. It's a very cheap, and very damaging, sweetner. It will screw up your liver as quick as booze.

        There are alternatives but they cost more and the corporate way is to make things as cheap as they can be made.

        Reference… Please check out: http://erylin.wordpress.com/2010/03/27/the-dangers-of-high-fructose-corn-syrup/

        Or, google HFCS dangers & Princeton.
        Rob

        Rob

      • DaveH

        Robert,
        None of us will live forever. Since that is true, I believe happiness is the most important thing for us. If it makes you happy to stew about all sorts of health risks, then more power to you. But if people want to enjoy themselves and take those health risks, how about butting out?

      • Robert Smith

        From DaveH: >>>But if people want to enjoy themselves and take those health risks, how about butting out?<<<

        The exact same thing could be said about pot.

        Yup, sounds pretty good. Gonna quit bugging pot heads?

        Rob

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Roberto Smythe,
        again you don’t read very well or you would know that Dave H has never positioned himself against pot!!! course that would be just like a prog to react before they read the facts!!!

      • planoguy

        Yeah, it figures – a pot head. Eating at McDonalds is not illegal (yet). Really transparent arguement.

      • http://naver samurai

        Robert, “Users are losers and losers are users, so don’t do drugs! Don’t do drugs!” You understand what I’m saying? FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • TIME

        Robert Smith,
        Dave H has never said anything about smoking POT, that can be construed as dissing it.

        I smoke to help me sleep, it works very well, is “not addictive,” as well Hemp Oil saved me from Cancer.

        Pots should be legal it was the “PROGRESSIVES in the Democratic party” that worked to make it as well as Beer, Wine, and Wisky, all Illegal back in the 1930′s learn your history, and you may even wake up smarter sme day.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Roberto smythe,
        Gee, thanks for the warning!!! I didn’t know salads had high fructos corn syrup in it!! Or apple slices!!!!Or pure orange juice!!! guess as a diabetic I better cut out those dastardly salads! Oh well, never liked them anyways!!! Actually I love a good tossed salad!!

      • Craig

        You liberal idiots are hilarious. You get called out for lying about Mcdonald’s killing people. Then you just move onto another gross exaggeration. Fructose is not that bad for you as you so dishonestly mentioned. do all you libs lie through your teeth?

    • momo

      People like Moore are one of the reasons the health system is so expensive. We all have a responsiblity to take care of ourselves. If you think Maher is funny, then you have no sense of humor.

      • Fast Freddy

        I have to wonder just how many intelligent Americans actually take anything that nitwits like Moore and Maher say seriously?[How about none?], Moore is the picture of an over-stuffed socialist, and as for Maher I can hardly believe that a homely, no-talent, ignorant idiot like him actually has celebrity status, the Hollywood left recently gave him a star on the “walk of fame”, should I ever have the opportunity to walk my dog on that sidewalk, I’ll be sure to let Buster drop his lunch on Maher’s name.

    • JeffH

      Normy, as you play the master hypocrite’s role on Ben I would say you of all people should practice what you preach. In your case you’ve taken the position of “do as I say, not as I do”!

      All of us see you for what you are. Perhaps you should take a long hard look in the mirror before you play the hypocrite.
      But, it is what it is and I’m quite sure you’re incapable of that kind of change.

    • 45caliber

      Norm:

      “Moore is also not always big on reality.”

      I agree. And his “documentaries” are excellent examples of this.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        45caliber,
        I don’t know how he could be anything but big!!!! Look at that waist!!!

    • DaveH

      Given that Socialism has never worked, and Given that the Liberals embrace Socialism, I can only conclude that Christine O’Donnell looks like a Rocket Scientist in comparison.

  • HFlashman

    Steam seems to be running out on the programmers of the masses led by fear, insecurity and xenophobia. The Right is pulling all stops in their panic to label anything aiding Americans as “socialist” and the truth is twisted into distortion.

    Of course Palin, Gingrich etc are America’s version of the Taliban…that is obvious. One doesn’t have to be a brain surgeon to know that. It just requires an IQ indicating a sentient being.

    Fact…since 1980, America’s Middle Class has had war waged on it. Overall wage and earning power has diminished. Wealth and power is concentrated increasingly in the hands of a few. And the Right wing, corporate interests, and wealthy have used reigious dogma, fear, Xenophobia, and the hate fostered creation of “the enemy’ out of fellow Americans standing against them. When it came to a head in the 2000′s, they rigged the system to create an illusion of wealth to the Middle Class and working man. Drawing down and stealing the last vestiges of savings and wealth to where we now are fighting not only to resurrect the Middle Class..but for the very survival of the Middle Class.

    Look at the data before calling names or deriding the facts. Truth is truth. Fact is fact. It began with the attacks by the Right’s darling poster child…Reagan, up to Bush II the worst we had. Bush II was nothing less than a puppet who advanced the cause against us.

    So today? Anything…policy, idea, proposal etc..is labelled “socialist’ if it goes against the furtherance of wealth and power concentration. Smal Business aid and credit? Against…unless it also includes the Big Corporate interests who will drain the majotiy of the funds. Tax relief? If it only affects 98% of Americans and excludes the super rich who already enjoyed histroically low tax rates in the 90′s…against. But they demand the wealthy get tax relief…at the cost of ballooning our deficit. Even the populist uprising known as the Tea Party has been taken over and driven by those entrenched interests (and anyone who thiks diferently is a fool..plain and simple). And ya gotta love that the GOP used the auto bailouts as a basis to attack the admin…..a policy which saved hundreds of thousands of jobs. But listen this week…bet you’ll read or hear of some GOPer at some plant reopening taking credit. Yet..they voted against having a US auto industry. Ya listening??? They voted against America having an auto industry ! 3rd World status is what they wanted !

    And last? When you read or hear a GOP candidate say they want to cut taxes and reduce government…ask the obvious…ask them “For whom, how are they going to deal with the deficit, and what will they cut?” And demand numbers. The response is pap. Smooth, no substance pap.

    We’re coming out of this Recession folks…whether it’s a slow painful recovery…or one which we move forward and rebuild our Nation back to it’s once modernized greatness…that’s the question.

    Which are you for?

    • Craig

      “We’re coming out of this Recession folks…whether it’s a slow painful recovery…or one which we move forward and rebuild our Nation back to it’s once modernized greatness…that’s the question.”

      Which are you for?

      And our nation is coming back, but no thanks to the liberals. I am for a world without liberals. Liberals always ruin things.

      • HFlashman

        In denial eh? Therapy may help …

      • marvin

        HFlashman your meds an,t working,take another toke or two and a few more beers then post what you allready have,well maybe you need to cut back your brain is pickled or were you just born that way

      • a progressive nightmare

        flash didn’t write those comments, somebody else did. Flash is probably still toking on his last joint.

      • eddie47d

        I’m not sure if the auto industry should have been bailed out.All they made were gas guzzling dinosaurs. Not bailing them out is exactly what the Republicans wanted.(for political reasons of course). This would bring more unemployment and crush the party in power (obama). They will get blamed and this will assure a Republican victory. The Republicans can weave their own treacherous webs!

      • Claire

        The auto bailouts probably saved jobs. I don’t know the answer to this, if it was the correct thing to do. I do know I am going to buy a Chevy Impala. I am going to support American made products as much as I can. Hopefully I will help keep some people employed.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        nightmare,
        yeah! flash gotta elephant leg goin!!!

      • TIME

        Please don’t insult smoking pot with Da Flash. Thanks.
        Pot is good for you, but being totaly stupid is not good for you.
        As noted Da Flash is a Darwin Award winner, need I say more.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        flashless,
        Perhaps you should change jobs or work a little(gasp) harder!!! I work for myself so I don’t count, but my wife has gotten a very good raise all of the last seven or eight years in a row. course I guess cause she’s a lady she doesn’t count to you!!!

      • Kinetic1

        Joe,
        It’s easy to point to the success a few of us have had over the last 20 years, but look out the window once in a while. The middle class suffered a substantial loss under the last administration. Unemployment is at record highs and the news is filled with stories of Whit collar workers having to accept lower paying jobs to pay the bills. My congratulations to your wife for her success. My wife has also done well, and we are thankful to be among the few.

      • a progressive nightmare

        Joe, You’re wasting you time with flash, kinetic, eddie47d and dumniso. Many people have had and continue to have successes in America and that just flies in the face of progressive-marxism. They just “feel” nobody can make it without their progressive helping hand.
        That’s why you see this current regime in Washington doing everything in their power to undermine our business community, currency and our economy in general. Pathetic little folks but I think we will survive them.

        Bottom line, they can’t make it in America, without us paying for their bad habits and poor judgements in life, so, they think nobody else can, because they are just so much smarter than all the rest of us.

      • Craig

        No boy, denial is the place idiots like you live in. Get a clue then get a brain, the one you are working with is defective.

      • Earl

        Flashinthepan…..

        Your newspaper favorite is probably the Socialist workers daily..You sound just like another one of those “Re-distribute -the-wealth” types. When your kind are in charge, no one will want to be creative or aspire to anything other than “party hack”. A dull,uninteresting gray existence,Just like the old soviet union or East Germany.

        No one in his right mind would think much of the Bush Family, they are part of the “World Elite” which are bent on destroying this and other republican forms of government.Prescott Bush actually was implicated in support for the Nazis during WW II. I needn’t go over them again as they have been discussed ad nauseum on this forum. you know who I mean. If you don’t like this forum, why are you always here with your drivel?? All you do is annoy the other posters who do not share your view…….

    • JKO

      Wasn’t there some kind of stock market bubble during this time… I seem to recall that a lot of people – in the middle class – were able to make some good money in the 90s.
      AND while we did have more GOP presidents, congress was ruled more by democrats.
      We need to realize that BOTH Dems and Reps are to blame. As far as I can tell both parties have been taken over by “progressives”. You CAN rightfully blame the GOP, but the Dems deserve just as much blame. We need to stop voting party and start actually knowing out candidates. While I did not vote for Obama BECAUSE I knew nothing about him many of the people I know who did vote for him are sorry now. The bummer is that McCain (and I live in AZ) was not much better in his politics. Let’s get some candidates that actually say what they mean and mean what they say.
      Or maybe even better, we could get on our knees and ask God who He wants to be our leaders. But then I guess I will be called a terrorist for suggesting such a thing.
      BTW- Maher and Moore are both idiots. (It’e OK if you think I am one too.)

      • HFlashman

        JKO…Never said you were an idiot. And for the most part I agree with your portrayal of both the Dems and GOP leaderships throughout the past 30 years. I did not vote for Reagan…and hope he’s very very hot where he’s at. I did vote for Bush I. He tried to salvage a little, but continued the sell out of the Middle Class ad America though in a smoother fashion. Clinton was subjected to virulent, baseless attacks. Without merit or proof. Starr went on his Inquisition and Gringrich sold us out lock stock and barrel.

        Then came Bush II…and the SCOTUS sell out issuing an opinion that even today no one can make sense out of except it was a blantant take away from America’s Right to choose it’s leadership. Blatant, and totally controlled by the interests of the entrenched wealthy and powerful.

      • Earl

        Are you kidding??? Clinton is part and parcel of the “international Elite, Just like the Bushes….Do your homework. CFR,Trilateralist,
        Bilderberg and so on. You DO know about them, right?

      • a progressive nightmare

        flash said he did not vote of Regan. That means you voted for who, CARTER? Welcome to the world of progressive lunacy folks and get ready for the return of the grand ole Carter years! WHOOPIE!!!!!!!!!!!!! OH, Boy!

      • HFlashman

        LOL….whatever Carter was, nothing was as bad for America as Reagan. Facts are facts. He was a pure con job and scam.

      • a progressive nightmare

        well flash, I lived through both the Carter and Regan years. GOD help us if we go back to Carter economics! Man, you would try to defend a billy goat, if it was a dem.

      • Vicki

        HFlashman must be very very young. Anyone who lived thru the carter and Reagan years knows full well that Reaganomics works and Cartnomoics doesn’t. We do not even need the hundreds of studies that show how much better off people were during and after Reagan’s time in office.

      • http://Yahoo Michael

        I agree, Ron Paul would be a good start.

      • http://guy@reogiant.com guyb

        The Australian Prime Minister Has it completely correct….. He tells it the way it is and if you do not like it you can leave….He has told the muslims they can come to Australia but they speak english and are a christian nation and will not tolerate any changes to that. They will not allow muslim hate speech against there country and if they want to leave its there right to do so….Hello American elected officals….. Maybe you can find some extra backbone from Australia and force obama to show his real birth certificate….

      • http://yahoo Doris J Birkett

        YOU SAID IT, I READ WHAT THEIR PRIME MINISTER SAID & I FORWARDED IT TO EVERYONE I COULD, I WISH HE WAS OUR PRESIDENT. WE NEED SOMEONE LIKE HIM. WE ARE OUTNUMBER BY MUSLIMS & WE ARE IN TROUBLE, AS A NATION,WE ALL NEED TO PRAY FOR GOD TO INTERVENE. PLEASE

      • Mik

        If you could find that link – I would LOVE to have it!

    • Dano

      AMEN….I can tell the difference between entertainment and “politics”…..or can I?

    • Dagney

      I know there is free speech in this country, but how long will we have to endure the dillusions of this FOOL? This is a place of free speech with no consequences? Ever tried yelling “fire!” in a theater? Why must we endure this? Palin and Gingrich America’s versions of the Taliban? How many heads have they lopped off, Fool? Can’t we ban this creep?

      • a progressive nightmare

        Dagney…. Let flash and the rest of the progressive dummies stick around! They make our case without us ever typing a response.

      • eddie47d

        Dagney are you talking about Ben Crystal??Kind of sounds like it.

    • Jeep

      HFlashman, you lie. Fact, the deficit under a REPUBLICAN controlled congress DEcreased steadily from 1995-2001. Then, democrats took control and the debt soared until 2004 when REPUBLICANS took control and deficits sank again. Then, the current team of democrats took control and deficits are now off the charts.

      Sorry, just the facts maam, just the facts.

      • Vicki

        Please do find a link to these “facts”. It’s not that I doubt you but that I want the quiet ones to see clearly what foolish things are claimed by the democrats here. Notice they rarly provide links to support their facts. (Mostly cause the “liberal” facts don’t exist.)

      • Robert Smith

        From Vicki: >>>Mostly cause the “liberal” facts don’t exist.)<<<

        You seem to have missed my posts. Here is a small example. Please stand by for more.

        Actually you can check out: http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_nancy_pelosi_order_up_a_200-seat.html

        It handily refutes that entire diaperlaod about Pelosi and the airplane thing.

        Rob

      • Anthony

        FACTCHECK.ORG is a Democrat funded website.. thoroughly outed by several independent sources.

        Get over yourself. What’s next, quotes from Salon.com ?

      • Robert Smith

        Hmmmmm, an attempt to discredit the source overall, but NO facts.

        Have any of the quotes from individuals involved been refuted in any way?

        Rob

      • Claire

        I think it is ironic, almost laughable. There are website for the right wing and there are web sites for the left wing, same with radio, TV, newspapers. They are all biased in one way or another. Does one ever get the real truth?

      • http://?? Joe H.

        I have a better one roberto Smythe, check out the CBS news story AND film about it in P-louseys own voice!!! She requested it!!!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Claire,
        I gave a source that refutes his story from a PROGRESSIVE source!!!

    • Harold

      WRONG again Flashboy

    • Joke

      Flashman,
      You’re very eloquent, more than most (many people here use “then” when they mean “than,” use a comma for an apostrophy, misspell words, etc). I’m impressed. But your logic is backward.

      Tax breaks are for taxpayers, and no one else. The ‘rich’ pay more in taxes than those who are not rich, therefore they get tax breaks.

      Fact is truth: it is — and always has been — Congress who sets fiscal policy, establishes laws that allow those who cannot pay their bills to own homes, and myriad other travesties. It is Congress that has screwed up this country.

      They say ‘politics makes for strange bedfellows,’ and never has that been more true than when Congress passes a bill that the President wants and tacks on an Ammendment that requires something that only a few want…and the many in Congress vote for it (and the President signs it) because of the main part of the bill. Sad, but true.

      You’re obviously smart enough to do some real research, so put some facts together that tell a real story, not your incessantly liberal blather. Please…!

    • planoguy

      Common sense spending – something we are not seeing in today’s government!

    • Average Joe

      HFlashman,
      ” We’re coming out of this Recession folks…whether it’s a slow painful recovery…or one which we move forward and rebuild our Nation back to it’s once modernized greatness…that’s the question.

      Which are you for?”

      It only took from 1913 until 1920 (7 years) for the fiat money here to create the first depression in the US (print it up…and spend, spend, spend..as congress has done since the implementation of the Fed.). Harding did the right thing, he allowed the banks and businesses that screwed up to fail. The economy rebounded within 1.5- 2 years.

      It took from 1922 to 1929 (7 years… again) for the fiat money to cause the second depression (congress on another spending spree along with with Fractional reserve banking practices). However, FDR didn’t allow the businesses and banks to fail. Instead he propped them all up (by the theft of the American people’s gold) Under Presidential Executive Order 6102.

      http://www.the-privateer.com/1933-gold-confiscation.html

      The immediate effect of this act took away 40% of the American people’s wealth ( the government bought it back at face value rather than market value). Under FDR and the “New Deal”, the economy did not rebound until the beginning of WW2 (13 years).

      Now we have Obama and this administration following in the footsteps of FDR, not only making the same mistakes, but compounding them (because there is no gold to prop it up…only fiat currency). Since 1913 (with the implementation of the Federal Reserve), the dollar has lost 94% of it’s purchasing power. How much lower can we get? Can this continue for another 11 years?…you do the math.

      You stick with your Keynesian economics ( let me know how that borrowing your way out of debt works out for you [try it with your mortgage]) and I’ll stick with Austrian economics. Looking at history beats the heck out of looking ant monetary “theory” any day of the week. Fiat currency has NEVER worked in any system where it was implemented….Therein lies the entire economic problem in ths country…… The Federal Reserve and bad policy.

      On June 4, 1963 Congress abolished Silver Certificates and a citizen could no longer redeem their Silver Certificates for silver on June 24, 1968. This act pretty much ended the life of Silver Certificates. Kind of sad, really. It placed us on FRN’s which were no longer redeemable in silver.

      http://www.trackdollarbills.com/blog/2008/09/07/silver-certificates/

      In response, Kennedy issued the EO 11110 On June 4, 1963 . This placed the printing of “Treasury Notes” squarley back in the hands of the Treasury and out of the hands of the Federal Reserve (a privately owned and operated foriegn banking cartel). This returned to the people value backed currency in place of FRN’s (fiat currency). That single act of defiance against the Federal Reserve cost Kennedy his life. On the very day that Kennedy was assasinated Nov. 22, 1963. Congress started to pull silver certificates out of circulation and dumped $50 billion in new FRN’s…redeemable in nothing….

      http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/executiveorder11110.htm

      What was it you said?…oh yeah…”Truth is truth. Fact is fact”.

      • a progressive nightmare

        Average Joe, You will never get a response on this one. Flash spews his propaganda, like dump truck moore, and then he’s gone in a “Flash”.

        Man, thank you for the FACTS for all to see. Well DONE!!!!!

      • meteorlady

        I vote Flash stays. He writes well, but has really not give me many facts. I think he’s a paid blogger for the left – may be Soros or one of his organizations like moveon.org?

      • a progressive nightmare

        DEAD ON! and you can BET that Kinetic is as well.

    • Viktor Leben

      Hflashman,

      Shouldn’t that be “which shall it be ?” like Cabal’s speech to Passworthy at the end of the movie “Things to Come” ?

      http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5xi8m_things-to-come-10-19362037_shortfilms

      I love that speech !

      • Viktor Leben

        Did you see the big space gun ! THAT’S WHY I SUPPORT THE 2ND AMMENDMENT !

        Damn the World DICTATORS, LET’S COLONIZE SPACE !

    • meteorlady

      How do you account for George Soros bankrolling Obama and a most Democrats and a few Republicans? How do you account for the Bildenberg Group?

  • JoMama

    ASGreen -
    I thought it was just me!!
    JoMama

  • JoMama

    ASGreen -

  • a progressive nightmare

    Great article, I think America is in the process of waking up from a century old “Progressive Nightmare”. VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Mondovibe

      Progressives got US out of the 1st Great Depression. For the past 30yrs the Republican Party has been over run by NeoCONS & their bs trickle down economics & deregulated industries so they could lay off and outsource, off shore their investments and gamble our homes, retirement & environment away. Or haven’t you noticed?

      • BJ

        Obama’s trickle up poverty, on the other hand, is working splendidly.

      • a progressive nightmare

        Mondovibe, Progressives got us into this mess and FDR did more damage to our constitution than all the presidents after him, COMBINED!. However, OBLAMA will make him look like a cakewalk before he is done with his “Fundamental tranformation of America” through his marxist wealth-redistribution.

        By the way, smart people do not allow their homes to be gambled away. Maybe you should get in control of your own life before you try to drag us down into the mire and the muck of progressive-marxism.

      • Kinetic1

        Many is the “smart person” who have found themselves with an upside down mortgage. It has little to do with how smart you are when housing prices tumble as they have. “Smart people” have not been immune to cut backs and downsizing either.

      • Viktor Leben

        Kinetic1,

        Good time to flip houses – here come the foreclosures.

      • a progressive nightmare

        MR Energy….Maybe you didn’t grow up on a farm, as I did. Again, SMART people do not allow themselves or anyone else for that matter to GAMBLE their homes. Are you DUMB or DUMBER? Which one?

        The problem with the housing market and resulting demise of our ECONOMY is FANNIE/FREDDIE, BARNEY FRANKS and CHRIS DODD!!!!

        Try reading a good author on this matter, maybe Thomas Sowell, if you can possibly follow him.

      • CharlieC

        “WE ARE PROG (progressive)…RESISTANCE IS FUTILE…YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED!”

      • Harold

        Not gonna happen Charlie. Soon progressives will be history and we will have REAL progress in America, led by the conservatives.

      • CharlieC

        Oh, I fully agree. That comment was made with tounge fully in cheek!

      • Earl

        OK, as long as were playing with words, I think AMERICA IS BECOMING PROGRESSIVELY MORE CONSERVATIVE…….Have fun with that one!

      • Viktor Leben

        Earl,

        I think the majority of Americans are starting to become “apolitical”. They are waking up to the fact that politicians shouldn’t matter, what matters is food,shelter,clothes and healthy economic freedom!

        If the Federal Reserve goes belly up, and the dollar is abandoned, what currency/practice is going to be used ? Will it be gold/silver coins, barter, or cooperatives based around sovereign individuals…

        Aren’t the Liberals and Conservatives just trying to save the dollar ? Isn’t it just a MEDIUM of exchange ? Will our massive economy adjust to other forms of currency ?

        These financial advisers on this webpage are worth listening too. Take advantage of he Internet before someone shuts it down !

      • a progressive nightmare

        Sweet! LOL!

      • http://guy@reogiant.com guyb

        If you think pelosi has done a great job then maybe you have to many government entitlement programs going for you…. pelosi got her new jet and America got a new jet payment….I still can not understand how pelosi gets all the water she wants for her multi million dollar northern california vineyards when she cut the water to all those northern california farms????? Well America, lets all understand that obama and reid and pelosi and friends have been BOUGHTOUT.Can you say george soros????Can you say offshore accounts?????

      • Robert Smith

        From guyb: >>> pelosi got her new jet and America got a new jet payment….<<<

        Another tall tail from the hate mongers and spinmeisters on the right. Pelosi DID NOT make any specific request for any particular airplane.

        From: http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_nancy_pelosi_order_up_a_200-seat.html "When Pelosi became speaker, House Sergeant at Arms Bill Livingood, according to his own account, worried that the small craft would be unable to travel to her home district of San Francisco without stopping to refuel. Livingood, who was first elected by a Newt Gingrich-led House in 1995, asked the Air Force and the Department of Defense about getting a bigger plane."

        You may want to try a relationship with the facts rather than knee jerk screeds that just don't have any connection to reality.

        Rob

      • eddie47d

        Robert; Facts and truth are a by-product of Republican gas. It’s more fun for them to be dishonest about certain things.I guess it relieves the pressure?

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Roberto smythe,
        suggest you type in pelosi and bigger jet? and listen to the CBS news report that will be offered! I would think you progs would believe CBS news if they report it and it says SHE requested it!!! also the video shows her defending it in her OWN voice!!!

      • planoguy

        THe point is that the “Queen” couldn’t be bothered to stop for fuel. Nor could the smaller planes carry the complete entourage in the queen’s court. Were she really interested in the people, should would have taken are more subdued approach. But, you know, she was not spending HER money….

      • Viktor Leben

        Correct me if I’m wrong. The Federal controlled water supply was cut off because of the smelt fish. The STATE of CA was suppose to have built their own ecologically friendly irrigation system -but didn’t …

        Kind of similar to New Orleans .. they didn’t prepare.

      • djust

        Yes we have noticed.
        That’s why we are voting for CONSERVATIVES not just Republicans.

  • Robin from Arcadia, IN

    November is coming… People are paying attention. Don’t ignore your right to vote!

    • marvin

      Robin from Arcadia, IN, we have a president and i use that term losely that is against the famly[for gay marrage]for murder[abortion]against the military,more for islam then christian,more for the blacks and hispanic then we the american people that most are white and are not all black or hispanic and are not all racist,against the states for bigger federal goverment for more handout,s wants more federal control and less state control this pres makes carter look like he was not all stuped,vote for the best one running in nov if they voted against pelosie/reid/obama all the time, vote fact not skin tone,vote record not talk

    • http://guy@reogiant.com guyb

      Keep up the good work Robin…. Lets vote these anti Americans out of office….

      • http://naver samurai

        My wife and I are ready for November. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Viktor Leben

        Samurai,

        You worry me … HA HA !

      • http://naver samurai

        I would hope that it would make the libs nervous, not saying you are a lib. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

  • John Hasse

    Green makes a good point. writing is supposed to be about communicating. Not about impressing people with how erudite you are.

    • Dan Burke

      Maybe he’s trying to make a point.

      1. A conservative if they don’t know what it means will actually look up the meaning/context.

      2. Conservatives actually are more educated than progressives give them credit for (see point 1).

      3. Could be mocking the progressive elites…?

      4. Or maybe your right and the writer is just missing the mark with us normal people.

      Of course, us normal people probably fit into categories 1 and 2 because the progressive elites seem to think we are all dumb as bricks and need to be forced to do what they think is right, and because we actually do look at history and try to put things into context and perspective. Sort of explains why we oppose the reality of socialism instead of reveling in the theory of it. Sort of explains why we oppose “Obamacare….” And why we are just plain mad that our elected representatives pass 1000+ page bills into law without reading the cursed legislation. So of course we end up having to do what they were supposed to, and we are plum sick and tired of their claims to superiority when to us they are just looking dumber and dumber every day.

      • http://guy@reogiant.com guyb

        Well said Dan….. You are a true American…. I am with you…..

      • HFlashman

        Naw….no need to think a wacked Righty is dumb as a brick, it’s proven beyond doubt. Note that the states with higher education and higher number of professionals..are the most Progressive and way nicer places to live and work. (and also are the wealthier states :)

      • enough?

        Being CONSERVATIVE,I would debate you at any time, I would also bet that both my wife’s and my education’s are far beyond what you have sustained.
        You are beyond reproach with your inabitlity to say anything but
        the current and typical dnc rhetoric.

      • CharlieC

        “Higher education”? Don’t you actually mean “higher indoctrination”? The overwhelming majority of our “progressive” educational institutions have lost the ability to teach their students “how to think”, and can now only teach them “what to think”. Perhaps you should attempt some original thinking yourself sometime. I caution you, though, to take this in very small steps. That way you should be able to avoid having any headaches resulting from cranial overload.

      • a progressive nightmare

        You’re asking flash to think outside of the dnc box? Ain’t gonna happen!

      • CharlieC

        Yeah, you’re right. It was kind of silly of me to think that….!

      • a progressive nightmare

        LOL!

      • Robert Smith

        From CharlieC: >>>can now only teach them “what to think”.<<<

        ROFL… Like No Child Left Behind from Bush?

        How's 'bout that great creationism kick, duh… "Intelligent Design" and their efforts to put their RELIGION in text books! BTW, in PA a Reagan appointee for a judge tossed out the Dover suit. Remember that? Democracy in action! The eight Dover school board members who voted for the intelligent design requirement were all defeated in a November 8, 2005 election.

        How's that for people VOTING!

        Rob

      • http://?? Joe H.

        “way nicer places to live”?!?!? now there is a very good use of the English language!!! He must have went to Havad like um, er, uh, like, oh, eh, yeahNobama!!!

      • CharlieC

        QUOTE: “How’s ’bout that great creationism kick, duh… “Intelligent Design” and their efforts to put their RELIGION in text books! ”

        …and you would probably claim that evolutionism is not a religion? Religion is defined by Webster as a person’s belief system. I would proffer that belief in the theory of Evolution requires far greater faith than belief in creationism.

        If taken from a strictly secular viewpoint, Evolution and “Intelligent Design” can both be considered as valid theories, not facts, but theories. Utilizing conventional (and proper) scientific method, one would proceed to prove or disprove each theory by accumulating solid data, evidence, and other factual information before arriving at a conclusion. Oddly, the modern “scientific” method employed by the so-called evolutionists first forms a conclusion that evolution is a fact, and then works backwards to develop so-called proof. A disastrous failure at best.

        QUOTE: “The eight Dover school board members who voted for the intelligent design requirement were all defeated in a November 8, 2005 election. How’s that for people VOTING!”

        No one ever claimed that all voters were intelligent.

        Which comes full circle to what I previously said about “progressive” schools not teaching people (aka voters) “how to think” but only “what to think”. A fact with which you seem to be intimately familiar!

      • Viktor Leben

        Hey Robert,

        Here’s a good site for you ….

        http://freehovind.com/index

        This unfortunate science teacher got thrown in prison because He believes in the Separation of Church and State !!

        Be tolerant and check out some of his free video downloads. He was given a harsh sentence of 10 years – Incredible !

        Intolerant Liberals sent him to jail. They need help just like intolerant Conservatives.

        Can’t we all just get along ? Why do you people HATE ?

      • Mik

        Are not those States the ones we just had to bail out? How can they be Wealthier?

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Mik,
        aren’t the only two states with a completely balanced budget botth republican states???

      • planoguy

        Funny you should mention that. Seems the libs come here to spew, so they won’t let mere FACTS get in the way!

      • Mik

        My reply was one level too deep, I was responding back to HFlashman – that is what I was impling. The states in trouble are the liberal states. They are not the wealthiest. The states run by conservitives get to take that trophy. Flash was claiming just the opposite. Sorry for the confusion.

      • Craig

        Hey boy, you are a bafoon. The dumbest people on this planet are liberals. Get your head out arse.

      • blv54

        haha progressives live in the nicer wealthier states ya like california sure progressives have done a great job there, your kind destroys everything it touches, everything a commie I mean progressive touches every state they take over turns into a bankrupted wasteland why is it that libs always take credit and attribute to themselves what is actully the opposite of reality, woe unto them that call evil good and good evil, bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter God must have been looking at you libs when he said that.

      • Kinetic1

        I would be inclined to place Mr. Crystal’s use of unnecessarily obscure words along side his habit of taking swipes at successful liberal pundits. Both give the appearance of a man who feels that his superiority has not been recognized by a cruel and unfair world. As O’Reily might say, “No bloviating, please.”

      • Viktor Leben

        Actually I hope Mr. Crystal continue his practice of seemingly obscure word usage. He reminds me of a younger William Buckley !!!

      • CharlieC

        QUOTE: “…successful liberal pundits”

        Wouldn’t that be an oxymoron?

      • TIME

        Charlie,
        Yes; but don’t tell our 20th Winner of the Prestigious Darwin Award he was a winner in July 2010 for his remarkable agressive ignorance as well his lacking wit and complete and utterly mindless post as well his hate rants as well his overall twinkieness.

        He is pleased that he has hit 10 on the IQ chart just this week!
        Soon he is sure that he can hit a strong 9 on that IQ chart, making him as smart as his all time idol Homoerectus Da Smipson.
        Da Flashe works very hard to destroy the nasty Mr. Burns, and take all his wealth for his own Trucking Company, that’s yet one more of his piles of cold road apples.

        LMAO.. ;-)

  • ASGreen

    Dear Mr. Crystal,

    “zaftig Moore”?
    “serendipitous moments”?
    “IQs above the intellectual Mendoza line”?

    You are a good writer but sometimes I don’t have a clue as to what you are saying

    Try keeping it more simple so that people like me get it and don’t feel stupid.

    Sally

    • Donald R. Megerle

      What don’t you get? Erudite?…Yes, Ben is…and this is good stuff!

      • Earl

        I just simply love “Oleagenous Autuer”! what a mouthful….His descriptives are great!

      • http://zzzz Preston

        9/20/10, To Earl, ‘unctuous’ serves as a better description. These are entertainment–show biz hacks who have far less influence than they’d like us to think. Once their opulent lifestyles are threatened, you’ll see how quick they jump the proverbial ship. ~~~~

      • Jeep

        Godd call Preston, and spot on!

      • Jeep

        My bad! That should read “Good call”…a bit of a Freaudian slip, perhaps?

      • Earl

        That’s another good one……….The possibilities are endless…….

      • malachi

        Reading this and other self aggrandizing tripe, reminds me of the “Chitty Chitty bang Bang’s” King’s Birthday Party, . The “court” of the king in that movie look like the characters in our government. Our Senate and the political poops that are holding onto this ghost of a Dream could double for the “Berger mister” and His court.

        That is to say the “Politicians in Washington.”. I sure hope the “KIDS” in Hush-a-by Mountain revolt.

        More quotes that come to mind:

        “Judges, demand a Bribe
        Politicians ask a favor
        Great men of Commerce demand an illicit gift
        Perversion is gaining Ground
        Righteousness is fading from sight and none notice.”

        “The serfs are getting restless, and their knotting up the nooses”

    • Bob

      The Senate nis voting on the Dream Act today to give amnesty to millions of illegals. Instead of calling your Senators you dummies are still arguing about Islam. America is doomed.

      • http://www.infowars.com Th3D3adM3ssenGer

        Well said!

      • TIME

        Saddly Bob, Most have no clue about this bill let alone its add on’s by old Bent Harrys Reid.

        As well as we all know the Dems have the controlling numbers in the Senate, as well lets be real are they going to not vote for this special Harry Reid tack on? If they can fool the American public once and man have they done that in numbers you can’t even count anylonger, will this bill be any differant.

        We as in anyone who has a clue all know the facts are now quite clear even with a massive turn in November; I question if the Republicans have enough “NON Progressives” within the party to get anything done, after all a Progressive Republican is really no differant than a Progressive Democrat, kind of like a Marxist by any other name is still a Marxist.

      • Bob

        Time if this bill passes this week November won’t mean squat. There’ll be 20,000,ooo new Democratic voters.

      • a progressive nightmare

        Try somewhere around 50-60 million new voters. If this DREAM ACT passes, game over! We’re done!

      • David

        No, we aren’t done. That is the time the bullets come out…

      • DaveH

        Relax, Bob, they already are voting. Who cares about any stinking laws?
        http://mensnewsdaily.com/2006/06/05/democrat-advises-illegal-aliens-to-vote/

      • a progressive nightmare

        Daveh, Sad but true!

      • meteorlady

        But Harry said it would only be the children that have been here so long that they feel like Americans? Was he wrong – oh dear – I’m mad now.

      • http://naver samurai

        Harry Reid’d “Dream Act” has been defeated in the Senate! They voted for closure and wouldn’t vote for it. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • refuse2lose

        Calling our senators has worked so well in the past,RIGHT?????

      • Kate8

        refuse2lose, Exactly what I was thinking.

        We shut the WH and Congressional switchboards down with opposition to Obamacare, not to mention the bailouts and previous amnesty pushes. They KNOW how we feel, and they don’t care. Their eyes are on the prize – enough new voters to make our voices truly meaningless.

      • Bob

        Kate You can give up if you’d like.

      • JeffH

        Bob, I can assure you that Kate8 is no quitter, quite the contrary.

      • Harold

        K8, We can’t give up! We have to fight for our freedom and defend our rights. Ole Harry should be in prison with B.H.O and company. I’m working in CA to insure Boxer and Pelosi won’t be around to stab the American people in the back again. Keep the faith, God is still i8n control.

      • Kate8

        JeffH, Thanks for the kind words. And you are right. I will stand with America until my last breath, along with you and many others on this site. I started to mention ‘names’, but I didn’t want to leave anyone out inadvertently. But rest assured, each one of you is deeply appreciated, in my heart and in my prayers.

        Harold, I’m not sure who you are, but we will all stand together, and we WILL win.

        Godspeed to all.

      • JeffH

        I use two online organizations to send faxes to my reps and they do work as I get generic replys back from Boxer and Feinstein.

        Numbers USA
        http://www.numbersusa.com/content/?jid=706368&lid=9&rid=79&tid=1047088

      • JeffH
      • Craig

        LOL..sending faxes to those two traitors does nothing. They do not read your faxes, it is an automatic response program that reads the subject line and sends out an appropriate canned response. They could care less what you or I think.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        refuse2lose,
        actually, during Bushes tenure we DID stop amnesty!! I question if all the people that say they called on Nobamacare actually did!!!

      • Kate8

        Joe H., If the townhalls were any indication, people were really riled up about Obamacare.

        In DC they complained about the switchboards shutting down. Actually, they shut them down because they didin’t want to deal with all the anger and protest.

        They got the message. They just had orders to get it passed no matter what, and that’s what they did.

        I, for one, have had enough. ENOUGH.

        The contractor for the power company just came out tonight to install a ‘smartmeter’ to my house. I bluntly told him ‘NO!’ He said ‘okay’ and left. I heard that many people in my town have stood up to them, and I heard it is going to court. Not that that is much comfort, courts being what they are today (I live in CA), but at least people are speaking up.

        I’ve drawn a line in the sand. How many will do the same, no matter what? Because that is what it will take.

      • a progressive nightmare

        Kate8….Good for you! BRAVO! Stand tall and people will follow!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        kate8,
        Haven’t heard of them trying to install any of them around here! I would do the same, tell them when they have a court order and SERVE IT TO ME, I will back off. Till them get the hell of my property!!!

      • Warrior

        Some good news! Dream Act did not pass senate today.

      • JeffH

        Hooray for now!

      • Angel Wannabe

        Thank Christ!

      • Angel Wannabe

        Warrior, JeffH, Been watchin and prayin!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Warrior,
        tahnks for some greatly needed good news!!!

      • Kate8

        The ‘Dream Act’ and Amnesty are like rubber. As soon as they go down, they come back up.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        kate8,
        how true. Sad but true!!

      • http://yahoo Doris J Birkett

        If Oboma’s am”nasty” bill goes thru, Americans won’t have a prayer. All of the service stations, motels & convenience stores on every major hyway & Interstates are owned by muslims, we have 3 american cities that are all muslims, some schools up north are making students praise Allah. If this amnesty bill goes thru, we will be outnumbered, 20 million muslims already here, 15 million more to be Citizens, we don’t have enough Republicans to out vote them. They will not let us buy gas to travel. I think the US will have a war within, If they attach Israel. God will step in, he will not let them destroy his chosen country. How can we win, we have muslims in our military, our Gov, the White House, the Pentagon, how can we win without God’s help?ou

    • Dean

      When all else fails, look it up.

      The term is named for former shortstop Mario Mendoza, a flashy defensive player who struggled at the plate. Although Mendoza’s batting average was .215 lifetime, he was known as a sub-.200 hitter whose average frequently fell into the .170 to .180 range during any particular year. That proved to be true in 1979 when Mendoza managed to finish the year with a meager .198 average.

      The “Mendoza Line” was created as a harmless clubhouse joke amongst friends. “My teammates Tom Paciorek and Bruce Bochte used it to make fun of me,” Mendoza said in 2010. “Then they were giving George Brett a hard time because he had a slow start that year, so they told him, ‘Hey, man, you’re going to sink down below the Mendoza Line if you’re not careful.’ And then Brett mentioned it to Chris Berman from ESPN, and eventually it spread and became a part of the game.”

    • petepalmer

      Perhaps the liberal part of your brain had a hickup! So let me break it down into Dipshirt terms: Liberal media twits spew endless vomit all over themselves and now it is getting on everything else. We need to find them a toilet!

      • Christin

        Better to remove them from TV and make them to clean the toilets they puke in… less mess for us.

      • Robert Smith

        Awwwwww Christin… Were is your sense of free speech? Or, is that just for Rush and the ones you approve of?

        Rob

      • http://?? Joe H.

        talk about a mess???? look who’s here!

      • Christin

        Robet S,

        You’re right.. we still have Free Speech as outlined in the First Amendment of the Constitution. The toilet mouths can talk all they want on TV, I’ll just change the channel so I don’t puke.

        Down size DC and we’ll all be more healthy!

      • Kate8

        Geez, Rober S. Are you still here?

        What free speech? You libs are all for free speech as long a it’s about obscenity, homosexuality, Christian bashing or some other liberal passtime.

        If it involves God, morality or just human kindness, you are the ones who what to shut people up.

        You complain about not wanting Christian morality forced upon you (as if it ever was), but then go ahead and pass laws to force your degradation and corrupt value system upon us and our children, regardless of how offensive it is to us.

        You have no credibility here, Mr. Smith. Your words ring hollow.

      • http://naver samurai

        Sorry Robert, you may have freedom of speech, but when you have something worth listening to we’ll listen! Keep up the good fight, fellow patriots! Harry Reid was defeated, now let’s go for the rest of them. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • a progressive nightmare

        Kate8…..Wonderful comments! Yep, “progressives” are for free speech as long as it meets their evil political agenda for America.

    • petepalmer

      Uh, can you please define what racism is in this day and age. I mean, Obama is an alderman maquerading as a President and the Real Americans, aka, Republicans are preparing to return him to his social club because of just these reasons not because he is black! But, if you are a liberal panderer I would be considered a racist. I like and dislike people from all classes, races, religions and countries. Explain please!

      • Vicki

        it is actually very easy. You disagree with the progressives. You are a racist.

    • jwillyy

      good communication is not just to make yourself understood, but to make yourself never misunderstood. ppl who love to use words that only a few understand are not trying to reach out to the masses but are only trying to make themselves superior in their own minds. I may not spell very good but at least I try to be understood.

    • refuse2lose

      Let’s see,liberals claim people like Jon Stewart,Bill Maher,Michael Moore,Rosie ODonnell and Lady Gag Me as leaders of their party.

      Conservatives claim Rush,Sean Hannity,Sarah Palin,Chuck Norris as their leaders. So tell me,who would you rather be sitting in a foxhole with?

      • a progressive nightmare

        Good point! Anyone who would give nut case Bill Maher and Dump Truck Moore a seat at an adult conversation couldn’t possibly have an IQ greater than 80. These two idiots are nothing more than fellow progressive-marxists with a deeply rooted hate for the American way of life. Heck, add Jimmy Carter to the mix and you would have a tripple wammy of progressive stupidity.

        What’s even “Moore” funny, these idiots that follow them have no clue as to the MILLIONS these clowns have made off the very system their trying to destroy.

        Bottom line, that “Touchy-Feely” progressive mentality will get you every time! Send them more of your money DUMMIES while they laugh all the way to the bank! Do you “Feel Good” now? DUMMIES!

      • Kinetic1

        So, Moore hates the American way of life? I assume you base this on his condemnation of GM for moving their plant to Mexico and leaving his home town of Lansing to suffer a slow lingering death? Or maybe it has to do with his belief that Americans should not loose their health insurance (if they are lucky enough to have any) just because they get sick. Maybe you think it’s a good idea for companies to pay their CEOs tens of millions of dollars in bonuses for firing scores of their employees just before year end? No matter that many of these companies are showing record profits, because firing those workers makes their bottom line look even better!

        I’d say that many of the people Morre takes aim at are the truly un-American members of our society. They’re the people who send our jobs over seas, knowingly put our health, even our lives at risk to cut the cost of production and then run to the government to save them when they screw up. These large corporations place more of a load on our police force, our fire fighters and our roads, but they balk at the idea of paying their share of taxes. They poison our air, land and water and then they pay billions to ad men and lobbyists to keep the government from forcing them to pay for the cleanup. Yep, people like Moore should be ashamed for exposing these true American heros!

        As for us “DUMMIES”, we know that Moore and Mahr are successful. Moore’s “worth” is estimated at around $50 million and Mahr’s at $13 million. Moore and his wife own a lake front house in Michigan worth around $650,000. They’ve done well for themselves. Now let’s look at that “everyday guy” Shawn Hannity. He’s just like you and he understands how you feel. I know that because he tells us so all the time. He stands up for the American businessman and reminds you that those big corporations pay your (and his) salary. Well, I’ve read that he was worth around $30 million, but now he has signed a new contract worth $100 million over 5 years. That has nothing to do with TV, books and advertising, so we can only imagine what this “great American” is worth. His waterfront house in Long Island? A modest $3.4 million, just like your house! And then there is that pillar of conservative humility, Rush. His place in West Palm Beach is valued at $25 million! Latest estimates put this guy’s “value” at around a Billion dollars. These two conservatives are the ones telling you to vote against raising taxes on the rich. These are the guys warning you that you’ll all lose your jobs if the wealthy have to pay any more. These are the guys who twist the numbers to convince you that the rich suffer an unfair burden. These guys have convinced you to help them keep every penny they can by placing more of the burden on you and me, and we Libs are the “DUMMIES”?

      • eddie47d

        None of that matters to the right.Nada,Zilch!Never Happen! They closed their minds at birth. It’s like talking to a hamster racing on a wheel.They will tell you their cat is a dog and nothing will change their minds. If you disagree with them about that cat You become a Marxist.liberal,commie traitor. The debate is over but the name calling goes into full swing.

      • blv54

        yup you libs are the dummies they have their millions God bless them, at least we had a free country where they could make that kind of money and when they made millions at least I got to make thousands and have a decent lifestyle, when you take their evil money away from them through taxes I probably won’t even make hundreds, you libs are so eager to 3rd world us with your righteous cries of equality for all what you really mean is poverty for all, I don’t care if the rich are rich what I see is americans of all incomes have had a good life here in the good ole USA far better than most in the world but it’s fast disappearing soon we won’t even be able to afford energy thanks to you damn communists

      • Viktor Leben

        Kinetic1,

        My theory on Moore and Maher is they did allot of good in the beginning of their careers. Maher had the show “Politically Incorrect”, I enjoyed watching on the TV. Moore’s documentary “Roger and Me” was top notch on the death of his hometown in Michigan.

        What happen with them ? In my honest opinion they became liberal “reactionaries”. The side they perceived as their political enemy has changed them. The liberals are exploiting them right now.

        Don’t let your enemies change you. Walk the straight and narrow path, don’t let your enemies turn you to the left or right. Sort of like Pilgrim’s Progress ?? Ha HA

      • a progressive nightmare

        You sure do type alot to say so little. DUMMY seems to fit you well. GM is dead because it was raped by a bunch of UNION thugs. Unfortunately, our grandchildren will have the pleasure of paying for the unconstitutional DUMB bailouts.

        Healthcare??? Fact is 40% of the people you progressives state that don’t have insurance, choose not to, and, their household income exceeds $50,000 per year. Seems we have some folks that don’t have their priorities right! Oh, I get it, let the children pay for it! PATHETIC!

        As far as who makes what, who cares! A good CEO is worth every penny he or she is paid. If not, they will be FIRED!!! DUMMY! When you have a union thug workforce making 6 figures to build a DUMB car, what else do you expect? Hell, some doctor’s don’t make that! IDIOTS!

        Given the fact that you follow Michael Moore, nothing “Moore” needs to be said.

      • a progressive nightmare

        My post was to you, Mr. ENERGY, in case you can’t figure that out.

      • a progressive nightmare

        Mr Energy, Just in on Fox News this morning. UAW workers smoking dope and drinking on lunchbreak. Maybe we should give these guys a raise to a 1/4 Million a year!!!! I wonder how dump truck moore will spin this one. You think maybe this has anything to do with the decline of Detroit and the auto-industry as a whole? DUH?

        and to think, our granchildren are paying these guys!

      • Robert Smith

        From a progressive nightmare: >>>Send them more of your money DUMMIES while they laugh all the way to the bank! <<<

        Actually they don't get something for nothing. They provide a product, in both cases entertainment, that I'm willing to pay for through HBO or Netflix. I'm selective about my entertainment. I don't watch Fox, Jane Fonda (I was in the USN on flight skins when she was in an AA gun seat), or John Travolta (Scientology), or Mel Gibson (just plane nuts) movies.

        BTW, nobody, NOBODY, has done anything but call Michael Moore names. Not one of the ideas or facts presented in his works have been challenged.

        Is anyone up for disputing something in one of his documentaries or is the silly right wing name calling going to continue? Does anyone around here have anything substancial to say?

        Rob

      • http://guy@reogiant.com guyb

        Just the facts please,Moore uses made up propaganda for his far left want to be movies and he is a true anti American commie with a big C.Moore became a muslim so he could sit in the streets with his anti American muslim losers on his prayer rug while facing mecca every friday at 42nd st and madison ave in new york city at 2pm until 4pm and blocks rush hour traffic and of course there are no arrests because the new york law enforcement officers are not allowed to arrest muslims that are breaking the law because our muslim president will not let them and moore loves to hang out with anti Americans so hop a plane and go and join him…. Anyone who loves moore or jane the loser commie anti American fonda must be a far left Liberal voting democrat anti American.Are you voting for pelosi and boxer? I hope that answers your question….

      • Robert Smith

        Lots of rant from gyb but no examples or facts.

        Thanks for the example of name calling though. An excellent demonstration of how bankrupt the right truly is.

        Rob

      • Kinetic1

        You called it, Rob. Not only does guyb fail to give us one single example, but he uses “made up propaganda” to attack Moore.

      • http://naver samurai

        You all are always willing to bash the GOP and Bush for things. One thing you all like to talk about is Haliburton. I hate to tell you that Michael “Piggy” Moore owns stock in many of the energy companies over there, to include Haliburton. What do you have to say now? Robert, go back to being a drug snorting, gay loving, baby killing, communist and we’ll keep up the fight to free this country. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Viktor Leben

        I feel what Jane Fonda did was wrong visiting the enemy during the Vietnam War. I see some in our military don’t like her. I was surprised when a Training Instructor in the Air Force told me that Jane Fonda has the right to speak on the base, just like any American has. That was my BASIC experience. All the airmen were singing “We are the World” during chapel.

        I use to feel the same way as you Robert Smith. I couldn’t tolerate Jane Fonda lovers in the Air Force or fellow airmen singing “We are the World” during BASIC. I got psychological help – 2 weeks in 4th floor of a San Antonio military hospital. I was kicked out of the USAF for having a “Nazi like” attitude and being intolerant to people who weren’t as conservative as I was …

        Having a intolerant attitude for Liberals leads to a “treasonous” mindset. I still struggle with my intolerance .. especially when I’m tired. But the good Doctors and Nurses in the Air Force helped me get started on the road to recovery… God Bless Them !

      • a progressive nightmare

        you wouldn’t understand it if we did.

      • a progressive nightmare

        eddie47d….and I’m shedding my tears for you as I read your chilish comments. LOL!

      • HFlashman

        Rush, Hannity and Palin…so, being cowards, when they get up and try to run away, they’ll be targeted and I have the shooter in sight and they are distracted and laughing their as* off watch Hannity and Limbaugh waddle.

      • David

        Flashman, I don’t have a clue which side you are on by what you said…

      • JeffH

        flash is just one of the resident liberal hacks.

      • CharlieC

        …and a poster child for the “below the Mendoza line” crowd.

      • a progressive nightmare

        flas you been toking again? Man, normally you can at least type a clear statement. Whew!!!!

      • Harold

        Flashboy, Where do you get that coward crap?

      • Vicki

        Cowards are usually too busy running away to see who is standing their ground and assume (or hope) everyone ran away.

      • Viktor Leben

        Vicki,

        You just made a good comment ! That’s the reason why we need to have women in combat ! Equality !

      • http://?? Joe H.

        I’ll take Chuck, Palin, and flash. That way I’ll have something nice to look at and when flash runs his mouth about stupid conservatives I can set back and watch Chuck kick his azz and have some comedy to watch!!!

      • http://naver samurai

        They are nowhere as big as the current cowards and traitors we have in office now. Obama bin Laden is the biggest by always bowing, giving up ground, and apollogizing for us and he has NEVER stood up for us. In fact, he’s also the biggest coward and traitor of them all. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Viktor Leben

        Samurai,

        Obama’s bowing is part of an ingenious foreign policy. It took some of the heat off the troops…..

      • Bob

        Refuse None of these phonies has ever been in a foxhole. Only Chuck Norris was in the service. Air Force I think.

    • http://guy@reogiant.com guyb

      Moore loves islam,He has converted to islam so he can ride camels through burger king and where a diaper on his head while degrading women… Who knows,maybe he goes with those muslims who stop traffic at 42nd st and madison ave in new york city at 2pm until 4pm every friday during rush hour so he can lay on his prayer rug and face mecca with a big fat pork sandwhich in his mouth…If islam is a religion of peace then why does it say in chapter 9 verse 30 in the koran to kill the jews and christians???? There are many verses in the koran that talk about killing anyone who will not convert to islam…. Well muslims, I will not convert to islam and I am willing to fight any and all of you who think you can take over America and get special favors that no one else gets and I do not care that obama gives you these things,we will vote him out in 2012 unless some elected offical with some back bone and a real love of our great founded on christian principals of a country steps up and makes him show his real birth certificate…. Nov is coming,lets vote these anti Americans out of office.

      • Harold

        Guyb, I agree

      • Robert Smith

        From guyb: >>>re are many verses in the koran that talk about killing anyone who will not convert to islam….<<<

        Been to any good crusades or inquisiitons lately?

        How's them there clinic shootings going these days? I'm sure Tiller might have something to say but he was shot in church. A Christian church of all places by another alleged christian.

        Rob

      • Mik

        Let’s see – Crusades were started why? Oh yey, the Muslums conquest of Syria and the Holy Land (forcing everyone to become Muslum of Die) and the destruction by the Muslum of all the holy and sacred places in tese areas. The wars continued as the Musulms tried to converts THRU CONQUEST not through evangilization, other parts of Europe.
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades#Middle_Eastern_situation
        Now During the wars other political battles also became entangled with the crusades, no different from todays wars – are we ever 100% sure exactly why we are fighting something at any specific point in time (WMD vs 9/11).
        Oh – Tiller- Yey a crazy who is not supported by any serious Christain or Jewish relgion. No one praies his actions like they praise the actions that Muslums take when they commit violence.
        You really need to compare apples to apples and understad your history before trying to thow out ” Oh Yey What about…. gottcha comments…. There are always going to be an exception but are they the norm?
        For Christians, no we do not declare a Jihad to destroy others – (though through out history we did fight for our survival and the day may come wher we will be forced to fight again). But we would prefer to live in peace and spread our faith through evangilization and our actions of serving others – not by killing them because they don’t believe as we do.

      • Robert Smith

        From that same article: “Because the First Crusade was largely concerned with Jerusalem, a city which had not been under Christian dominion for 461 years, and the crusader army’s refusal to return the land to the control of the Byzantine Empire, the status of the First Crusade as defensive or as aggressive in nature remains controversial.”

        Like I said, been to any good crusades (BTW, a word Bush used) or inquisitions lately?

        Rob

      • http://naver samurai

        Sorry Rob, but the crusades were started to free the Holy Land from 100′s of years of aggression and suppression by the muslims. It was also because of the systematic killing of Christians and Jews. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Mik

        Rob- It wasn’t under Muslum control for those 400 + years either. Like you say, controversial, not Fact. And if they were truly aggressors, which may have been the case in some of the conflicts – then at that period of time they were not peaceful. The crusades though were not suupported by the Bible telling the Cristians to go on them unlike the Koran tell Muslams to kill Christans and Jews as well as to lie about their faith if they must in order to infitrate the infadels inorder to overcome them.

      • Viktor Leben

        Some who claimed to be Christians have prosecuted unjust wars. Look at all the fighting in Europe over the past millenium …

      • http://guy@reogiant.com guyb

        Of course he was shot in a church,Where else could some commie muslim shoot someone and send the blame to the christian community. The koran says chapter 2 verses 190-193 to kill the unbeliever.Chapter 2 verse 216 chapter 2 verse 224 chapter 3 verse 157-158 chapter 4 verse101 chapter 4 verses 74-75 and on and on so let me remind you. America was founded on the bible and the ten christian commandments and not islam. The Bible says to pray even for your enemies and to love one another. The koran says to kill the unbeliever and if you want to I can go on and on.If you want to be a muslim lover and give them special treatment then move to the middle east and take your prayer rug with you. This is still America and we all should have to follow the law and that includes the muslims. That does not mean the muslim get special rights but the same rights. In new york city on 42nd st and madison ave every friday at 2pm until 4pm hundreds of muslims block rush hour traffic without a permit and place there prayer rugs in the streets and face mecca and they do this every friday in several locations and nobody gets arrested and you will not see this on the far left main stream news either.What would happen if 200 jews or christians did the same thing,they would be arrested on the spot. How about we all just wake up and face the truth. Our muslim no birth certificate president lets the muslims break the law and then sends a radical muslim iman around the world with tax payers dollars and tells him he speaks for all of America. No,sir mr president,your radical iman does not speak for me. And as far as till the killer,it was not a christian who shot him so why do you not get your facts strait?

      • Kinetic1

        guyb,
        Where do I begin with a rant like this? First, the shooter was not a Muslim. Second, our nation was NOT founded on Christianity. If you doubt this, read the Treaty of Tripoli. Third, the document is legal, like it or not. and finally, Bush sent out the same Imam (not Iman) to do the same job, but I don’t recall you complaining then.

      • Viktor Leben

        Kinetic1

        The Treaty of Tripoli is referring that we have no state church. The term “Christian” isn’t taken in it’s Lockean sense. A government can still be theistic and secular. The two aren’t mutually exclusive.

      • Viktor Leben

        Kinetic1 !

        You’re a Genius ! Now I know why Prez Obama said we are not a Christian Nation ! He’s directing his comments towards the radical Moslems just like our forefathers did in the Treaty of Tripoli !

        You must be a college Professor ! thanks ! Now I understand the Prez better !!!!

      • a progressive nightmare

        Victor……LOL!!!!!!

      • a progressive nightmare

        Mr Energy…What a DUMB statement! Our nation wasn’t founded on the principles of Christianity? Yeah right! How about you going outside and play with your toys in the sandbox.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        roberto smythe,
        those are the aberations for the Christians, those are the norm for the Muslims in the middle east! They stone, they lop off hands for stealing, lop off heads for being deviant(sexually)! The Crusades were what almost a thousand years ago? (1012) All the punishments mentioned above were all recent history like last week on the stonings!!

      • Robert Smith

        From Joe H.: >>>those are the aberations for the Christians, those are the norm for the Muslims in the middle east!<<<

        Ahhhh, as long as christians kill less than the muslims then it's OK.

        Thanks for that clarification.

        Rob

      • http://?? Joe H.

        roberto smythe,
        I guess your standard is if the christians kill ANY it’s wrong, but if the Muslims kill MANY it’s ok?? nice double standard you have there!!!

      • Viktor Leben

        Robert,

        I’m a Christian but I never killed anyone. Have you killed anyone in your lifetime ?

      • http://naver samurai

        Abortion is immoral and unethical so get over it.

      • Viktor Leben

        Abortion is an intolerable act to some ! I find the practice abhorrent and vexing. The man who shot/killed the abortion doc just snapped. He needed to be medicated, and psychological help.

        Nobody got to him in time. I was real conservative, but them Doctors in the Air Force helped me to become more tolerant.

      • Robert Smith

        Viktor says: >>>Abortion is an intolerable act to some ! <<<

        And for most people it's a medical procedure between a woman and her medical professional.

        IOW, none of your business.

        Rob

      • http://naver sook young

        Hey rob, can you come up with some new material instead of the same old grind? Illegal drugs, abortion, and gay lovers are immoral, unethical, and illegal drugs are just that—”ILLEGAL.” You are one of the people that will be swept up after we clean house in November 2010 and 2012. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • ItsMe

      I enjoy these articles, and they have a ton of merit and common sense, however, I find fault with blaming the “Democratic Party” for all its ineptitudes. There is no difference between the left and right now- between Democrats and Republicans. They all work for the Banksters and are only concerned with maintaining their own power. They claim to be something when their viting record shows otherwise. Republicans are just as much to blame for our disgusting situation.

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