GP,
Good idea!! That way half of congress can’t vote!!!

You are right GP.

I did not always know this and have only learned of this of late. I was truely very disappointed when I learned of this “trick” used in our congress to fool constituents into thinking they (congress) are with them (the people).

I believe many Americans did not know half of what is going on that is just wrong and unconstitutional.

You have described the Trick congress pulls very well.
Thanks for your great comments.

It’s funny how the Dems have had a super majority most of the past 4 years yet are saying that the problems are caused by the Republicans being the party of NO. This is so blatantly absurd I can’t figure out why they aren’t a total laughing stock. But then when the press if fawning all over them and their agenda I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.

To the Dems if you totally agree with their agenda you are being bi-partisan. If you disagree in any way you are an extremest and an obstructionist. So it’s not a great leap to see how they would consider themselves centrists. After all, they ARE the answer.

There are some Republicans that need to go. Those like Olimpia Snow who have consistently and reliably voted with the Libs over the past 20 months MUST be voted out. But that doesn’t put the problem on the Republicans. It’s the stupidity of the so-called conservatives of those specific districts. They need to wake up.

don,t forget l graham he is another one that was for it befor he was aginest then for it

they did in alaska

GP,
One of the Senators, not sure who (Maybe Jim DeMint or J.Baynor, I’d have to go way back and look it up) said “the Republicans were the party of Hell NO!” Hell No, we’re not going to do that communist stuff to our country.
That’s a good way to answer the Dems when they are saying we are the do-nothing party or the party of no.

Christin,
yup but they have only done that in the last two years!!! Otherwise they just slower versions of the dems!!

I agree. They both stink. That is why I VOTE LIBERTARIAN.

How many times does the Libretarian win? I have two neighbors who wrote Ron Paul in for President. I challenged them that they actually voted for Obama. They became angry, as did the idiots who voted for Ross Perot. Why not get involved in the political party of your choice that has an actual chance of winning, and make a real difference, not just voting?

Take my word for it! I was one of the idiots that voted for Ross Perot. Only very quickly to realize that even if he had been elected, he would never have gotten any thing passed. Neither democrat or republican would have voted with him on any thing. Just out of principle…he wasn’t in their party! I will never do that again!

Okay, Conservative at Birth, I was an idiot by your standards, too. I voted for Ross Perot, because the other guys were bad. But most of the American population did not get behind the alternative choice, thus my vote was wasted and Billyboy won. I learned my lesson. Give me credit for NOT voting for Clinton or Bush 1 atleast. Too bad we all didn’t fully awake back then and begin to clean this mess up before the hyper-drive guy came along to ruin things.

We would need a new candidate under the “Conservative” label, maybe. I am not sure people would go for the Libertarian, but might go for the “Constitutional Conservative” as they are now in the primaries. The Tea Parties seem to endorse the constitutional conservatives as they understand the importance of getting back to our Founding Father’s Documents for a Free Society, Free Markets, Freedom of Religion and Speech, and Right to Bare Arms.
Maybe then we wouldn’t be throwing our vote out if ALL would stand with that Small gov/ Less Spending Patriotic American candidate.

I couldn’t disagree more. You are only falling into the trap being set by the Dems and their lapdogs in the press. They have really worked hard to blur the lines between Democrat and Republican. If they are the same then why vote for the Republican? Every time the Republicans take over our government we enter a time of growth and increased prosperity. Just about the time we have recovered from the prior Liberal government they convince the voters to put them back in power and they screw it up again. And then blame it on the Republicans. NO, the Republicans are NOTHING like the Democrats.

We are at a point in our history where we need something better than both because of the extreme damage done by the Liberals this time around. But that doesn’t make them the same.

GP,
Look at the bills Bush got passed then look at what Nobama has changed. NOTHING!! He has even strengthened the patriot act! Spending? All he has changed is done a lot more of it! The repubs are mostly just slower versions of the dems!!!

Amen!

Big Ed !!!!!
I’m in agreement with you. We have to replace all these self serving
greedy maggots (both parties inclusive). In order to have a decent and effective government, we need to closely scrutinize all three branches: Legislative, Judicial and Executive from the local, state and Federal levels and ALL of those found wanting should get the boot.
Additionally, all special interest monies should be kept out of politics. As an aside, we might want to look at Diebold and other corporations who are involved in counting our votes.
What did Boss Tweed say? Its not the vote that counts, but who’s counting the vote.

Arizona Patriot,
Here’s a little ditty that came in my e-mail from, I believe, the patriot. It sounds like what Dr szuss would say if he were here.
I do not like this Uncle Sam.
I do not like his health care scam!
I do not like these dirty crooks
or how they lie and cook the books!
I do not like when congress steals.
I do not like theirsecret deals.
I do not like this speaker, Nan
I do not like this “yes we can!”
I do not like this spending spree
I’m smart, I know nothing’s free!
I do not like this kind of hope,
I do not like it. Nope, nope, nope!
I do not like your smug replies,
when Icomplain about your lies!
So for the future, make a note!
“I do intend to Vote,vote,VOTE!!”

Almost 100 years. It will take a long time to undue all of the damage. The FED, IRS, Social Security. Just a few examples.

CAB,
You are 100% right, so to is GP, its time to fix the problems or we will go down the Hopie and Changie path to the very end of what was once the United States of America, the The United One World Order.

All Politicians “LIE” to get what they want.

The ones in the congress and senate that voted on bills they did not read, or are members of the American Socialist Party need to be removed, no matter what party they are in as in a D or an R.

As soon as the table has equal legs, its time to defund all these bills that were passed over the last 19 months, and then remove them from the books, then Barry Soetoro and all of is staff.

If not then in 2012 we will be facing {Hillery} running for the office and she will nail the last few nails in the USA coffin, then game over.
Oh and she will win just as if there was no one else running.

Now wait just a min!! Don’t EVER think that Hillary is a lock! She is the one that reported Arizona to the UN!! She just solidly aligned herself with the Progressives and the Socialists and Obama himself. She just lost MAJOR points with independent and conservative women across the nation. And she is still part of this god awful administration. She is VERY beatable.

Time and GP,
Hillary has indeed identified herself as a “20th Century Progressive” (can anybody say evil Woodrow Wilson and FDR’s Raw Deal). I’m hopeful that people are on to the PROGRESSIVE (aka Communist) plan of the Elite Ruling Class. She said the “rich” meaning the $200,000 – $250,000) need to pay higher TAXES. $250,000 is NOT “rich.” The Clintons paid 3.2 million (that’s $3,200,000) for their daughter’s wedding… now I call that RICH (aka WEALTHY). Did you know that 36 people mysteriously died on Bill’s watch who was brought up by congress on impeachment charges??? KNOW that Hillary is the one bringing the “Small Arms Treaty” to the UN to take away your 2nd Amendment Rights. And surely most you REMEMBER… “HillaryCare”!!!! Sounds an awful lot like “obamacare.” Let’s NOT ever FORGET she is NOT ON THE SIDE of the American People (citizens).

The Players have chosen sides… Constitutional Patriotic American Citizen OR Progressive Godless Marxist NWO. You just have to figure out which one they really are and know who you are.

GP,
My friend, I said Hillery will be the next president and thats very obvious if you watch the signs.
I also said Barry Soetoro would win by a slim margin in August 2007, and he did in November 2008.

So I kid you not she will be the next president, Polls make no differance, (( the only hope we have )) is that 70% or more of the American public that votes “wakes up” prior to November 2012, if not, Barry Soetoro will be out and Hillery Clinton will be in.

You can write that down on your Notes for November 2012 and check it out at that time I will not be hurt if I am wrong.

And If I am wrong I will gladly ask you to Forgive me.

But again if 70% of the American Voters don’t Wake up very soon you have the way its going to play out.

Its not up to me and I am not telling you anything thats not clearly obvious if you watch the signs. I am not trying to anger you just point out what I see.

CONSERVATIVE AT BIRTH,
You can get rid of social security just as soon as you figure out a way to return all I paid in plus interest all those years. I’m 60 years old have paid into it since I was 14 and I plan on collecting at least SOME!!! I know people that paid into it longer than me, but at a waitress wage and will need it when they need to retire! I may not need it, but I paid out of every check and I feel I have it comming! I don’t care what the liberal court decided!

TO.Joe H. i remember when i started working in 1962 i got paid a whole $1.25 an hour but that was in sliver certifites and had the choice of getting one dollars worth of silver in a small packet,sounds like nothing but in those days a person could get 10 cans of tuna fish or 6 loafs of bread or go and buy a coke for a nickle or a gallon of gas for 28 cents,the point is with all that was stolen every pay period in real money,a person could have had a massive nest egg,but when i left high school in the middle 60s i had saved $13.864 dollars in real money,and got my start in life,well things didnt go well in my later years,to make it short,my health failed,and everything vanished,so now i live on the little i get from social secruity,and i am very thankful for that,but why is it that folks dont understand,that us older working folks(NOT DEAD BEATS)put our hard work into building a nation,not sucking it dry,but no it seems that people forget that once we generated massive amounts of money into that social security system that has been raided by congress ever since john F. kennedy started raiding that very fund,and every person in office betrayed the american people and that is us the very folks that funded it.and now theirs talk about getting it canned,well thats the frosting on the cake,lets get rid of the seniors,well if all the dead beats stopped sucking it dry for every tom ,dick ,and harry program that funds those who have not put in,there would be more than enough to cover that program,but no like all far thinking public employees,they killed the goose that laid the gold eggs via (NAFTA) and crooks getting bailed out (WALLSTREET) and funding (SOCIAL PROGRAMS FOR ILLEAGAL MIGRANTS) Joe H. now theirs talk by a fellow conservative for defunding social security,well if thats the case i want all the money i payed ,in silver with interest and that means the principle compounded on the interest,yearly and that amount payed in full in gold,not the phoney money they have now.i want to see that day,since all the crooks have trashed america,and the people that funded this nation will be left holding the bag(IOU S)THE LEFTOVERS=ZERO.no fun getting old is it JoeH.

Jim,
In fact you are 100% correct, its the common thread in DC as well all political game players is that the people of the United States are as stupid as a box of rocks.

And to be fair on this issue, they have been allowed a 100% free pass for the last 50 plus years to do as they please, so it only goes to aid them in their opinions on why we are so stupid.

The InterNet was their down fall by allowing us that TOY, and now its too late for them to turn it off, please do keep in mind they will keep trying to do so.

As I have said now many time, Pandora’s Box was opened long ago, its now to late in many respects to do anything about it.
Where we need to work hard is the education system, is the real week link and if we don’t fix it very soon, it will be too late.
The people who have a clue will all be long gone and America as you know it will no longer exist for your kids and their kids they will be slaves to the government.

We can fix the Political mess, the Economy, we can fix the injustice that the politicians have made over the last 160 plus years, we can fix the Media to stop the Brain washing.
We can rid ourselfs of the Fed, the DOJ, even the ACLU, also even the World Bankers, thats all easy as its just EXPOSING them, thus Exposing the “TRUTH.”

But to do so we must “reeducate our children” to understand why the United States was created, why it had a strong Moral backround that aided its growth.

Free Men are far more productive than Slaves to the state as seen by all Marxist type governments, but if only Marxist forms of governments exist and no one knows any better, well then there will never be any reason to change to allow FREEDOM.