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Religious Leaders Denounce Planned Koran Burning Event

September 3, 2010 by  

Religious leaders denounce planned Koran burning event Florida pastor Terry Jones has announced he will hold a Koran burning event on the ninth anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks next weekend. To counter the increasingly negative image of Islam and Muslims in America — which some experts say contributes to initiatives such as the one spearheaded by Jones — one organization has unveiled a public service announcement (PSA) campaign.

Fox News reported that the controversial pastor — who heads Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville — also cited the Fort Hood massacre as well as honor killings to further motivate his decision to hold the event.

"These are things that, if we don’t stand up now, they can increase," he said, quoted by the news source.

However, the planned burning has been condemned by many political and religious leaders in Florida and across the country. For example, The Christian Pastors’ Association of North Central Florida (CPA) denounced the event and stressed its support for religious freedom for all Americans, according to Gainesville.com.

Moreover, The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) held a news conference in Washington, D.C., on Tuesday to present its new national PSA. The campaign’s videos show Muslims who worked or volunteered as first responders following the attacks of 9/11.

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  • Ray

    You are blind to Truth. Also, fighting for freedom is not inciting a riot.

  • eddie47d

    Christians have probably piled bodies higher than Muslims throughout history. Too many people want revenge for everything and we more than got our pound of flesh in the Middle East. When Spain conquered the Americas they force Christianity on the natives . Those that didn’t convert were killed/enslaved. They torn down temples and built their own houses of worship on top of the ruins. We can be more pious now but Christian history is full of villians also.

    • Brad

      Muslims have been piling bodies up since the start of their religion in persia and ended some 200 hd years later. Ever since they have been battling amungst themselves. Sure The spanish brought christianity to the America’s, the inchas and their ruins are still standing, there are no churches, the aztecs and their ruins are also still standing, and there are no churches. eddie47d get your facts strait, you sir are making yourself look stupid. Yes I do agree with you, christianity had there fair share of villians (a long time ago), ever since the renisuanse period christianity cleaned up it act, where as islam became more and more a cult society.

      • eddie47d

        The Spanish made several native groups tear down their own temples and rebuild churches with the same stone.I have been to several ruins in Mexico and Guatemala.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        edduhh47duhhs,
        What about present day?!?!? how many of those acts are being done by present day Christians???? Get it out!!!

    • Michael J.

      eddie47d,
      The point is muslim’s are still practicing barbaric traditions in the 21st century.

  • Highsider

    Pastor Jones is all wet on this. The only circumstances where God honors burning a book, is if in repentence, a Christian burns a book that he, personaly has been using in sin. Sounds like the Pastor is more interested in scoring political points than in fighting false religions.

    • Norm

      Highsider
      Can you prove Christianity is better than any other religion? I think your a narrow minded hypocrite.

      • Brad

        Normy,

        No one religion is better than the other, they all answere to the same god. The human race may have to answer to god on judgement day, what will they say?

      • Michael J.

        Norm,
        Ask not which religion is better, ask which is in present day more humane in it’s philosophy, Islam or Christianity?

        Search Nasser Said who in 2008 shot dead his own flesh and blood daughters in the name of Allah for becoming to westernized. Honor killings are excepted practices in muslim countries.

  • Lee Weatherly

    David:
    In a Religious training session I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam would say. After the presentation, time was provided for questions. I directed my question to the Imam. I ask Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against infidels of the world and that, by killing an infidel, (which is a command to all Muslims) they are assured of a place in heaven. If that’s correct can you give me the definition of an infidel. He immediately replied “Non-believers”. I said then all followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith, so they can inter heaven. Is that correct? He sheepishly replied yes. I then said Sir I have a problem with trying to imagine Dr. Stanley or Rev. Graham ordering all Protestants to do the same in order to guarantee them a place in heaven! I continued, I also have a problem with being your friend when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me! Would you not rather have my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to Heaven and He wants you to be there with me.
    The organizers of the Diversification training were not happy with my honest discussion with the Islamic Imam, and the truth about the Muslims’ beliefs.
    Lee AKA TRUE FACTS

    • Norm

      Lee Weatherly
      I think you’re putting us on.

  • jopa

    What happens next is they will start burning Bibles and everyone will say how terrible.Well it should lead to a boom,in the publishing industry.

  • Tom

    David! David! David! First thank you for your service. From one veteran to another.
    Are you familiar with the Marine Corp Hymn? Off the top of my head Doesn’t it start out “From the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli??? Gee David do U have any idea where Tripoli is??? I was taught its in Libya. If what I was taught in public school is right then- THATS A MUSLIM COUNTRY! This part of the song comes from Thomas Jefferson’s time as president- 200+ years ago! We have had problems with these people since our country was in its infancy. Other places like Serbia have been combating the “criminals” of Islam far longer. Islam is NOT A RELIGION!!! It is a political and socio-economic system just like Democracy and Communism. Do some research and you will have a better idea of things. That vile puke- bin Laden loves to call us “crusaders” any idea why?
    When empires weaken and begin to collapse the roaches are the first to come out of hiding!!! These roaches are just lookin’ for there take of the leftovers! If you believe these “moderate” Muslims are peace-loving,etc…etc. then it should be okay by you that the women in your family marry and breed with these peace-lovers, right?
    David, you may soon be defending your way of life from your front porch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Lou

      Tom ,your right. We are losing the public relations battle because we don’t challenge the premise that Muslim is a religion. It has some elements of a religion but is so much more. We need a name for it that is more descriptive like Communism or fascism that people will recognize as inherently evil. As long as people keep defending it as a religion were fighting an uphill battle. Any suggestions?

  • Da Norseman

    Since many construction companies may refuse to build it, but let’s just say if that mosque is built, let’s compliment it with a Hooters next door as well as some strip clubs and bars surrounding it. Whenever prayer is held that’s when it’s Happy Hour!!!

    • Highsider

      LOL, I was thinking maybe a BBQ pork stand.

      • Da Norseman

        That too!!! That’s a good one!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Like I said, let them get the basement dug and pour in about a thousand gallons of pig blood from as many slaughter houses as it takes to get that much!!! Once it soaked in, they would have to remove bedrock to get rid of the desecrated soil!!!

  • Hugee

    Sir in all due respect why don’t you go to France -Belgium -England
    and other Countries
    and see what they are doing there. They seem to have all the power
    there is no stopping them.
    When you come back you will have another opinion.
    Try to do in Afghanistan what they do in those Countries try to take your Bible in the middle of the street, and pray. no cars can go through those streets,while they are praying from the Coran, people living there cannot leave their house or come back to their house at a certain time of the day. Apparently you never left this Country and see what is going on in Europe.
    I believe in freedom of Religion but what is good for them is good for us too…which you knnow is not the case.
    If we give the OK to built Mosques this will be the beginning of the end for America. We will have no more power..they will take over.
    How can you be so naive. Please awake while its not too late.

  • Da Norseman

    While burning copies of the Koran may not resolve anything, we can definitely burn them in the name of militant Muslim extremists and all terror groups.

  • Tom Wyckoff

    Friday, September 3, 2010

    Open Letter to all Patriotic Americans

    Poppy Cock! Burning Korans, spewing vile comments and jumping around in little circles, all acts of delinquent child like mentally. Most Americans and all of our political leaders need to man-up, stop the verbal bull shit and take a stand. It is very clear that most Americans are against allowing a mosques or anything to do with Muslins be built in the area of the 9/11 disaster. Our leaders (And “We The People”) need to support American ideas and standards, say no and get on with much more important issues of our American lifestyle. Should the muslins persist and file a law suit to get their mosque built, our supreme court justices need to support American ways by kicking their court filing to the curb, tell them we will not allow it and tell them to go home. Should the supreme court justices not have the mind set to support these American ideas, then we have the wrong people in place in our court system and it’s time to replace them, period. Just like we (Americans) made a vast mistake with electing Barack Hussein Obama as our President. It is time to over-through him and his socialist/communist standards and ideas. You as a patriotic American need to decide how YOU are going to assist our country back to being a sovereign, free land, full of respected or feared (by enemies) American citizens. Let the third world aliens, muslins, white, blacks, yellows, browns and all the rest that would become AMERICANS follow the rules required to do so. If some are not happy with the standards, let them try to change them, in an American way, for we do not live by Islamic, Sharia law in this country. Stop the quibbling and do something. Today, a Patriotic American MUST be a warrior to survive. It is time for action, (not childish posturing) but the correct type actions, let us get on with it. The following TWO quotes says it all.
    Regards,
    Tom W

    hooyasailor@yahoo.com
    Quote: “This country, with all its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it.”
    – Abraham Lincoln

    Quote: “We cannot expect the Americans to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving Americans small doses of socialism until they suddenly awake to find they have Communism.”
    – Norman Thomas, American Socialist Party, 1944

    (America,,, you are closer to Socialism, Communism than you think!)

    • Da Norseman

      The antidote to a Socialist or Communist takeover is when the many constitutional militias throughout the nation will rise up and take up arms. More and more patriotic Americans are joining or forming these militias to preserve the nation and the constitution. History will repeat itself as it did 235 years ago when the Crown was defeated.

    • STEVEN MORRISON

      TOM WYCKOFF what you don’t realize is that there are already thousands of patriotic American Muslims many of whom died on 9/11, and many of whom went to fight in Bush’s illegal wars after 9/11. And this patriotic American Christian is proud to have voted for and helped elect President Obama!

  • Gus

    If Americans have “the right” to burn a flag, Americans have the right to burn the Koran.

    Whether Americans want to admit it or not, the Muslim world has declared war on the Western World and in particular, the USA and Israel. This “war” will never be over until we wake up and act as if we want to win this war.

    WE OWE THIS to the next generation.

    Gus

  • Yvan

    The only comment that I have about Islam is for you people to go on the net and type ” Islam is not a religion” Read what happen when their members reach 20 % of the population in one area.

  • Joe R.

    Pastor Jones has his rights too. If he wants to burn an evil book, more power to him. If you want to stop the mosque near Ground Zero bury some dead pigs on the site before construction starts. Also talk to the construction unions about refusing to take the job and do not allow non-union Muslim scabs on the site.

    • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Martha

      Sounds like a very good idea!!!!

    • Jim R.

      I agree that we must step up as Americans. If we do not straighten things out now, it may me to late tomorrow. I do not believe the Muslims should be allowed to build in the propossed location, and should move it to another location. This just another step in their eventual takeover of a conquered country. I think if they decide to build near the trade center, we should let them. Let them spend $100 million dollars and help the New York economy. You do not have to steal airplanes and fly them into buildings to blow them up. Someone or organization will probably blow it up. Then some more money will be pumped into the N. Y. ecopnomy to clean up the mess. The koran is an evil book and should be banned. If the Klan published a book saying the vile things in the koran, it would not be allowed.

      • Viktor Leben

        Good Point.

        Once they get one of them suitcase nukes, them terrorist will nuke Manhattan! That sure will start alot of fires ! You got to admit that some of them don’t like gay people !! NYC got the most gay people in the world ! What does the Film Actor Guild have to say about them terrorist lighting up the gay capitol of the USA ? Where’s Michael Moore ?

      • eddie47d

        It’s hard to over react to something that may not ever happen. You’re only setting yourself up and we’d all be crazy if we thought like that.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        edduhh,
        Would you or would you not wear a bee suit to service bee hives??? I mean, why get upset over something that may or may not happen. Namely killed by bee stings!! You are just like steel, DENSE!!!

  • Anikó

    Burning any book does not resolve anything. Burning the flag should be remanded as “hate speech”, not freedom of speech.

    Imam Rauf insisting on building a mosque just yards away from where fanatics of his religion have committed murder in the name of Allah is not “bridge building” but an outright provocation of the United States of America, not unlike the 9/11/01 attacks were. To name the building the Cordoba house further clarifies the intention as provocative.

    Christians with true and clear Christian convictions don’t give in to provocation, but work within the legal system to prove the well founded reasons why this particular mosque shouldn’t be built at that particular site.

    Constitutional rights should be respected by both sides over a contentious issue; freedom of speech grants for Americans of ALL faiths or no faiths to condemn and oppose an action that in its nature is nothing more than furtherance of already chafed feelings of mistrust.

    • dan az

      Aniko
      what does Cordoba house mean?

      • Michael J.

        dan az,
        Cordoba, Spain is where the 8th century Muslim Moors erected a mosque in celebration of the conquest of Spain. This practice of building a mosque on the site of their victories has been muslim tradition for a millenium or more. One famous site you may have heard of is the Dome of the rock in Jurusalem. Dozens more examples worldwide proves that Islam is more of a conquering army whose constitution is the Quran. Once these mosque are built they are not just places of worship but also a sanctuary an armory and a bunker for covert terrorist operations.

  • http://personallibertydigest JFS

    Book Burning?.I understand the feelings of those who are for burning the koran .but that puts us in the same category. hitler burned books.I agree that the koran is a unholybook.But;we should be aware that there isA BOOK ABOVE ALL BOOKS.THE HOLY B{BLE.IT tells you how to deal with your enemies.Examine yourself .Read the BIBLE.;GOD SAID;If MY PEOPLE WHO ARE CALLED BY MY WILL HUMBLE THEMSELVES SEEK MY FACE AND PRAY I WILL HEAL THEIE LAND.PUT IT IN GOD:S MIGHTY HANDS

    • Ceddy Bear

      Amen!

  • william steel

    I support that florida preacher who is going to burn those korans, which I view as a book of evil. the muslims are trying to take over from with in, we must not let that happen. there is no good muslims, they all worship the same koran , that teaches murder and hate. muslim, the most violent religion on earth, it must be defeated.

    • David

      Have you read the Koran? My guess is that you have not.

      There are good Muslims who happen to be good American citizens. I fought side by side with some in combat. They had my back and I had theirs. And I would do it again in a heart beat. Please stop generalizing from a lack of knowledge and understanding. There are no Muslim terrorists just like their are no Jewish or Christian terrorists. There are only CRIMINALS who wrap themselves around their “religion” and thereby delude themselves to justify their insane and immoral acts. Their own religion condemns their behavior. If we, and our fellow citizens, do not understand this, and to continue to fall prey to prejudice, fear, and hate, then the logical extension will be more ignorant and senseless violence like that inflicted on that innocent Muslim cab driver in New York City.

      • Ceddy Bear

        Overall David I do agree with you. However, by the statements made by some here and the intentions of the pastor in the article you can see the frustration and outrage of the citizens. I believe there are peaceful Muslims. But why aren’t they speaking out condemning the acts of terrorist who claim that their religion condones these actions? If it were any other religion they would speak up. According to the radical Islamist, anyone who does not take their stance is not a Muslim. If you do a historical study of the rise and spread of Islam it has a very violent history to win converts. The Koran does condone lying to “non-Muslims” to advance the religion. They call non-believers infadels because Islam is the only truth.

      • David

        Ceddy,
        They have, and are condemning, these criminal acts in the name of their religion. The NY City Imam condemned 9/ll as such. He was hired by President Bush to be a bridge to cooperation and mutual respect between Christians, Jews and Muslims right after 9/ll. Now, for self-serving political reasons, the “right” is demonizing him to get votes in November. Watch, that will all die down after November.

      • AB

        David, i respect your views on good muslim buddies that had your back in combat but i’m tempted to believe you haven’t read the Koran yourself. Those muslim buddies of yours are good guys but bad muslims period. The whole koran can be summarized in one sentence, “VIOLENCE ON AND DEATH TO ALL NON MUSLIMS’ It is a direct command from Allah, so if your buddies didn’t kill you when your back was turned, then they are not good muslims and sorry to say, just missed their one way ticket to Allah’s paradise. PLS TRY AND READ THE KORAN YOURSELF. THOUGH THE PASTOR’S PLANNED ACTIONS WON”T REALLY CHANGE ANYTHING, LET HIM EXERCISE HIS RIGHT TO PROTEST AS LONG AS HE DOESN’T BURN IT ON YOUR FACE. MUSLIMS DON”T NEED TO BE PROVOKED TO VIOLENCE IT’S THEIR WAY OF LIFE AND RELIGION. A WORD IS ENOUGH FOR THE WISE. LISTEN UP!!!

      • enough?

        AGREE AB I believe you are referring to Sara 9.9: as to convert or die in Islam’s koran.

        coalminer, you are greatly misled by your thinking that Muslim’s are not using ‘soft sharia’ (deliberately misspelled) in the overthrowing of a nation by Islam.

        what is sad is that you will probably convert in order to not pay interest on your loans AND not be required to be pushed to pay a “TAX”
        penalty from obamacare. do you really believe that Islam will give you a ‘get out of jail free’ card by these ‘peaceful’ Muslims?

      • http://?? Joe H.

        enough?’
        yeah they would give him a get out of jail free card. right on the end of a scimitar as it cuts off his empty head!!!

      • 1955 The Keeper

        Show me one verse, just one verse from the New Testament of the Holy Bible, not two or three, just one that states that those who are believers of Almighty God, the Planner, Designer, and Creator of the Cosmos and everything else are compelled by the pain of death and damnation in hell if they fail to convert the entire world through any means possible to Christianity. Come on, David. Show me just one. Can’t find one? I knew that you couldn’t because THERE ARE NONE! Bring your wheel barrow though because you will fill it up with the dozens upon dozens of verses from the Quran which promise blessings on the faithful of Allah who spread the base of Islam through any ruthless means possible up to and including the use of genocide if needed. And Allah is OK with that. All those good Muslims that you trusted to watch your back side will either die where they are standing as an apostate or as the last shots echo off into the distance and Islam is in control of what once was America, you better watch your own back side because even the “good ones” will shoot you first and then unload around three or four full clips into the air in Muslim celebration while chanting praises to Allah.

      • tlludwig

        Hey The Keeper…Yup you are right. Here are few verses right out of the Quran. Regarding Christians and Jews: 5.51: “Believers (Muslims), do not take Jews or Christians as friends they are but one another’s friends”. If anyone of you takes them for his friends, then he is surely one of them. God will not guide evil-doers.” Regarding Jihad:9.5-6 “Kill those who join other gods with God wherever you may find them.” and 8.39-42 “I will instill terror into the hearts of Infidels (non-believers of Islam), strike off their heads then, and strike off from them every fingertip”.

  • Dancingcop

    This may not come off as acceptable, but remember the Nazi’s burned books they thought offensive as well. The First Ammendment gave us the Freedom of Speech and bars government from establishing a religion. Establishment of religion is what the Islamist want. The First Ammendment also prohibits the government from enacting any law that prohibits the free expression of religion. Seems like the government has forgot that the individual, the citizens of America, have the right to wear, erect or profess religious images or words, whatever they may be. That said, remember in November to displace (fire, vote out) those in government that would continue to erode our rights as the current administration is actively engaged in doing. Remember to take out the trash in November!

  • joe

    insane obama am a muslim!

  • joe

    burn baby burn!hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

    • joe

      hehehehehehehehehe

    • eddie47d

      Joe, Your turban is showing!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        edduhh,
        your azz is showing!!!

  • joe

    brun baby brun!

  • Ray

    In the past we fought when attacked. Wemust get our head out of the sand and realize we are under attack. Political correctness is killing us. Freedom of religion does NOT mean allowing antiAmerican crazys to do what they will. I would go a step further. Burn a mosque.

    • eddie47d

      How about arresting you for inciting a riot! What a jerk.

      • VinceP

        If you are going to arrest someone for inciting a riot, don’t you think you should start with the Hollywood nut jobs? John Cusack comes to mind!

        I don’t like burning books either. However, a statement has to be made! Our politicians have ignored their declaration of war by calling it a few extremists… The Koran teaches hate of all infidels, ( anyone who is not Islamic ), under penalty of death. This is not a peaceful religion, never has been, never will be!
        There are peaceful Islamics, they are usually outcasts or killed by there father….

    • Corinne

      There’s no need to burn a mosque – just drench it in pig’s blood!

    • Dadicated

      Ray’s suggestion that people “burn a mosque” is criminal and is not protected by free speech. I think the people monitoring this site should remove his comment immediately and ban him from further comment. I don’t think that is likely to happen, nor do I think he’ll be arrested for his reckless comment.

      I would hope that the Christians who have participated in this debate will condemn Ray’s call to burn a mosque, even those who support book burning. This is not borderline or empy rhetoric, it is a call for someone to commit a criminal act that could endanger lives.

  • ArizonaPatriot

    Two wrongs don’t make a right… but over 3000 wrongs on 9/11/01 make it DAMN RIGHT!

    Unless you refuse to coddle these self-rightous terrorists idiots, you will have to eventually accept them. And I believe that the majority of Americans will not stand for that.

    • David

      Included in those killed on 9/11 were Muslims. How do we honor those American citizens?

      • Brad

        David,

        Name all muslims killed on 9/11 except for the hijackers? Where is your proof?

      • David

        OMG Brad, Google it. It’s everywhere.

        Here is one http://islam.about.com/blvictims.htm

        If Muslims Americans were killed on 9/11 also, would that change your view?

      • Brad

        David,

        I have to say there were 60 people of the muslim faith killed on 9/11 who were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Because the terroist hijackers had no right doing what they did, but we all know what happened, almost 3000 innocent people lost their lives due to radical islam and the way they preach there gospel. Was it right, no it wasn’t, do the victums families want payback they sure do.

      • David

        No Brad. All 3000 people, including our fellow innocent Muslim citizens, were in the wrong place at the wrong time. They were killed by criminals who wrapped themselves around their angry mental illness. We must not generalize and devolve into prejudice, hate and fear. If we do, the criminals win.

        There are no Muslim terrorists just like their are no Christian or Jewish terrorists. They are criminals who, for self-serving reasons (and other mental defects)rationalize their behavior using Islam.

  • Brian

    I agree Patriot.
    If you can burn the American flag. You can burn every Koran you can find !

    • David

      The Pastor can burn the Koran. The discussion is about whether he should do so.

      • Viktor Leben

        There is “no discussion”. This guy must be one of those gun toting Preachers – like in the Old West ! You try stopping him and he’ll put a bullet between your eyes ! SO HELP ME CLINT EASTWOOD !!!

        My SCience ! What is the world coming to ? Christians think they have rights !

  • ArizonaPatriot

    Why is it that when a Muslim mob punishes a child for stealing bread by driving over his arm or when a father kills his daughter in an “honor” killing, we say “oh, it’s just those silly muslims again”, but when we burn a copy of the Koran in protest to their uncivilized lunacy, we are racist and unamerican???? It is time that we all go out and “burn a koran” to express our dissatisfaction for what muslims and their supposed religion is doing to out countries freedoms and beliefs. My freedom of speech is just as valid as CAIR’s. maybe even more valid since they are terrorist co-conspiritirs. The old saying “if you don’t like America, go home” is certainly appropriate here.

    • Norm

      Two wrongs don’t make a right. Burning books is infantile and totally unproductive.

      • Brad

        Normy,

        In muslim countries they rape/kill christians, they burn their churches, where were you? Get your head out of the sand, I don’t condone the burning of a book but what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

      • eddie47d

        Brad,and I suppose you want a good Bible burning? If they did that there would be more than an uproar!

      • independant thinker

        In muslim controlled countries they burn or otherwise destroy every bible they find and nothing is said about it.

      • eddie47d

        And that makes this right? Hopefully we have more sense in America.

      • Norm

        Brad
        The Nazis burnt books. You talk about hiding your head in the sand. Burning books changes nothing and proves nothing. It only shows someone who refuses to aknowledge reality, good or bad.

      • Brad

        Sure Nazi’s burned books to prevent knowledge and further their cause, they also tryed to exterminate a whole race of people. Muslims in general sided with Nazi Germany during WWII, today you have muslim leaders talking about the extermination of the jewish state. How can you sit back and not condone their retorick, but let one person in the US try to burn the Quran and your up in arms about that.

      • Viktor Leben

        So it’s OK if I have distribute “Mein Kampf” or “The Turner Diaries” or “The Protocols of the Learned Elder of Zion” to stir up trouble against the Jewish People ?

        Or can I burn one copy of each of these to protest the lies in these books ?

      • independant thinker

        One big difference. This is an individual burning the koran In Nazi Germany it was the government sponsering/doing the book burning.

      • dan az

        Norm
        Brad asked you a question how about it or is the truth beyond you?

      • Claire

        Burning the Koran may not prove or change a thing to some people, but it would sure feel good doing it!

      • Brad

        eddie47d,

        just goes to show you two wrongs don’t make a right. But take into consideration what christians have gone through at the hands of muslims in muslim country’s.

      • Claire

        And take into consideration the hippies that burned the US Flag back in the ’60s. Jane Fonda’s antics. The deserters that ran to Canada and other places. And remember the honorable young men that did go to Viet Nam, lost their lives, became disabled, and God knows what else. Viet Nam was a human tragedy as far as I am concerned. I marched against it too. But I did not burn any US Flags. It was a war that should never have happened.
        So what the hell is the difference if someone wants to burn a Koran? At least they won’t be burning any US Flags.

      • Viktor Leben

        Be a draft dodger = become President ….

        Be a HERO = get spit upon in the airport ….

        WOW, has America always been that evil ?

      • dan az

        Claire
        allahoboma and wife burned thier fair share of flags during that time and the libs still think hes an american how does that work?

      • http://?? Joe H.

        dan az,
        i don’t know about Nobama seeing as the year he was born, but I DO know the Klintoons DID in England!!!

      • dan az

        JoeH
        that doent suprise me!

      • Claire

        dan az –Anyone that burns an American Flag should be put in jail. I have no tolerance for people that burn the Flag of America. Being here in Illinois I truthfully am not aware that Obama and wife burned any flags. If they did, they should be run out of America ASAP. I do remember Ayers. He is another jerk that should be in prison. And Ayers has no remorse for what he did, he is the scum of the earth. As I said earlier I have no problem with the preacher burning the Islamic/Muslim Koran. I could care less about that piece of rubbish and the demonic cult islams/muslims belong to. As I said, I marched against the Viet Nam war and I carried a sign that said “Bring our Troops Home.” My friends carried their signs. I was not violent and neither were my friends. There were some hateful people in the crowd, and some were scary. We all went together as a group and made more than one appearance at the State Capitol.
        On a personal note, I have a flag in my backyard and in my front yard. I put them out each morning unless it is raining, and I bring them in at dusk. I have done this for many years and I will continue to do so until I die.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Claire,
        i have a flag on a 24 foot pole in front of my house that flies 24 hours a day seven days a week 52 weeks a year. I have a spotlight on it and when the flag gets tattered as they will, I very reverently take it down, properly fold it, and put it awat till they have a flag disposal ceremony at the VFW here. they usually have them about three times a year. I don’t know if you know it, but they are burnt at the ceremony, but it is done with the proper respect and service as required. Quite a few people know the proper display of the flag. For instance do you know it is supposed to go to the left of the front door as you face the front of the house? also NO OTHER FLAG IS TO BE FLOWN ABOVE IT!! I get so mad when I see people put up a team flag above it! I waited till a neighbor left one day and went over and changed it and left a note telling him the proper way and he didn’t do it again till he moved last year.

      • Claire

        JoeH–When my flags become tattered I give them to my neighbor and he takes them to the VFW for disposal. I do not approve of putting a flag “above” the US flag. There is a guy about 6-7 blocks away from me that flies a “Tacos Welcome” flag above his US flag!! He is a creep. Every time I drive past his house I want to stop and tell him how ignorant he is!! I have seen him out in his yard and he looks darn scary. I don’t know if I should stop and say anything or not. I sure want to but he looks like he could make mincemeat out of me!
        I have never placed a flag above the US flag. There is only one true flag of honor and that is the US flag.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Claire,
        Tell your neighbor at the VFW about it I’ll bet it changes!

      • 1955 The Keeper

        I am not at odds with the Holy Quran burners. If they feel that this will further their cause and bring attention on the Islamafication of America then they should let their hearts be their guide. However, I would rather that they NOT burn them but allow their church members to sit down and read them as you would read the Holy Bible, cover to cover. As you do, have a note pad and pencil at your side and write down the dozens upon dozens of passages within it that directly tout extremist violence against non-Muslims and Muslims alike. Know what is the basic motivation of these people from the Middle East and Asia. I could never serve a god that demanded me to further the horizon of my religion’s influence through intimidation and out and out murder of non-believers. Instead of bringing condemnation down upon themselves for the Hitleristic act of burning books that they don’t agree with, wouldn’t it be more impressive to announce that, “We had 187 adult members of our congregation sit down with copies of Islam’s Holy Quran and read it from cover to cover and these are the most damning passages that we found that simply spell out the ethnic cleansing perpetrated by this mystic Far Eastern Cult.” And worry not about allowing your people to read the Holy Quran. Not a single rational, thinking, well adjusted individual will convert after they fully comprehend the true horror show presented between the front and back covers of that book. Atheists state that Christianity is one of the hardest religions to understand why any rational person who knows and follows the exactness of science would believe in. Once you read A Holy Quran, and began to compare Islam to Christianity, you will view Christianity in the same fashion as mathematics, nuclear physics, or astronomy. If anyone tries to convince you that their Allah and our God are one and the same, don’t you believe it for a second. God would never tell His people to kill the rest of the world in His name in order to secure His power over those who survive annihilation. He has already given his Creation the gift of free will. In Islam, no such gift was given by Allah. It is either believe or die.

      • TIME

        1955, Thats due to the very basic fact that Islam is a CULT. So would anyone want to join Jim Jones? No not if they are thinking at all.

        As for the burning of a book that has “zero value to man kind,” is that evil?

        Well how about this question for those who think that burning this book filled with vile evil hate,
        (If you knew what Hitler was really like, would you have tried to kill him, as well burn his book My Strugle?)

        Yea, I know logic is real bitch.

      • Darryl

        Norm, with 30+ yrs ‘dealing’ w/muslims I can tell you, with no longer ANY doubt, given the chance, ‘they’ will/must convert, or kill you. Burning books? We’ve far more to be concerned with in regards to ‘muslims’ than upsetting some people with book burning. I’ve lived with these ‘peace-loving-people’ in the ‘far east’; they DO NOT love you! It is demanded of them to convert you, or kill you. Simple as that. My ‘awakening’ cost me…Wake up before it cost (us all) far more!

      • tlludwig

        So how about building a mosque at ground zero? Why are people so quick to be tolerant about that but god forbid, dont burn any books!

      • tlludwig

        Hey Norm, have you ever heard the saying, fight fire with fire? Sometimes drastic measures need to be taken. Personally, I dont think book burning is the best way to make a point however I completely understand why people are acting this way. Islam is a bully and people are tired of being bullied!

    • David

      No, the US, and much of the world, condemns that behavior.

      • Dan Burke

        First, yes, we in the US condemn that behavior (referring to the honor killings, etc). Second, while many in the world condemn the behavior too, do NOT fool yourself into believing that they all do. Many accept the behavior. Either by excusing it as honoring a culture’s religion/laws. Maybe they excuse it by denying it exists, or is a problem (holocaust deniers do this same thing). Or perhaps they turn a blind eye, often because they have a conflicting interest (usually money) in the matter. I found it interesting that some of those countries who strongly opposed the US invasion of Iraq actually were owed money by Saddam Hussein…. That doesn’t mean that the war on Iraq is justified because those objecting actually had money to lose when we invaded. It just means that you have to understand that many of us (even Americans) turn a blind eye to many wrongs in the world because we have an invested interest that conflicts.

        As for this book burning. Well, we allow flag burning. Why not book burning? Oh yeah, maybe it is because it brings back images of Nazi Germany and World War II.

        For me, there are two prominent dangers with the book burning.

        1. It does create a strong visual impression on the participants. You are creating the image of burning a religion in this case. Further done this road of figuratively burning a religion is the literal burning of any opposing religion…. This is dangerous, dangerous fire to be playing with. You DO NOT want to go here.

        2. I don’t want my religion burned anymore than it is, or has been in the past. Although I am not Muslim, and I personally don’t hold a very high opinion of the Qur’an, or their religion, does not mean I think anyone should go around burning their religious books. My own religion has seen in the past, here in America, our leaders tarred and feathered, chased from their lands, their homes, their property. Many do not see us as Christian even to this day. But knowing that history, I do not want to see the Qur’an burned.

        Personally, I think I would rather see justice on our shores. If they perform a “honor killing” within our jurisdiction, then I am for our laws applying. So an American Muslim, on American soil, should go to jail based on the legal process, and if they are found guilty according to accepted federal/state/local laws. No exception for “sharia law” that might allow a “honor killing.” If such a killing is truly honorable, then they would honorably accept their jail time.

        As for us, DO NOT burn the book!!!

      • dan az

        Dan Burke
        You have a point so I feel there is another way and that would serve to make a point in which all muslims would take offence and that would be to pile up the books and pour pigs blood on them. Hey at least they didnt get burned.That way when they burn our flag we would be politicaly correct!

    • Kinetic1

      AP,
      You make this sound like a sit-com with a laugh track. “oh, it’s just those silly muslims again”. Really? Where have you ever heard such nonsense? I have never met anyone who would condone such punishment, especially here in America. What I have heard of is men like these losing their children or being hunted down and jailed for murder.

      There’s little we can do about the cultural practices of other nations, and it may not be our place even if we could. But here at home we play by our rules. The longer they live here, the more their children will come to accept and follow our customs. Burning their holy books will only turn them towards their religion and away from our laws.

    • Dadicated

      I think Rev. Jones may have burned his Bible before he decided to burn the Koran. These two Bible verses, one from the Old Testament and the other from the New Testament speak clearly about how we should treat our enemies:

      Proverbs
      21 If your enemy is hungry, give him bread to eat,
      and if he is thirsty, give him water to drink,
      22 for you will heap burning coals on his head,
      and the LORD will reward you.

      Romans
      “On the contrary, ‘if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head’” (Romans 12:20)

  • http://WindowsInternetExplorer Walter Brown

    This is definitely not the best way to be a good citizen of the U
    SA. Spread the gospel of Jesus Christ by your actions in your daily life so others can see that you are sincere and committed to living a Christ like life.

    • http://yahoo.com Fear GOD, not man!-James White

      Walter, Yes we should live like Christ Jesus! Anger is not a good thing, but, there is such a thing as ‘Righteous Anger”! Remember what Jesus did in His Temple? Overturning the tables of people using HIS Temple as their ‘store’ and rebuking the moneychangers? That’s what WE NEED to do! Do not let them convert our country into another ‘Sodom and Gomorrah’. Islam is against the most important of Gods laws- “Thou shalt have NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME!” Anyone that is not a follower of Jesus is probably supporting this crap, because they don’t know the Truth (Jesus)! The koran (islam bible) tells them to kill ANYONE who doesn’t believe the way they do! Jesus says to LOVE our fellow man, as He loves us! tHAT’S THE GREATEST COMMANDMENT- lOVE! More muslims than ever are coming to Christ in droves today, and we, as Christians need to disciple all nations and languages as Jesus has commanded us in Matthew 28:19-20! Teaching them to observe ALL things He has commanded, and remember, He is with us ALWAYS, even til the end of the age!

      • Carole Howell

        Here read this all of it, then come back here and tell me how? and why? you are proud of it.

        https://www.adbusters.org/files/media/flash/hope_and_memory/timeline.swf

      • Dadicated

        If this lunatic minister goes through with his plan to burn copies of the Koran, he will get the publicity that appears to crave but he will also lessen the chances that millions of people around the world will ever find Jesus. Muslim extremists will say that he represents Christianity when ther truth is that most Christians deplore what he is planning to do. I worked just a few blocks from Ground Zero and lost good friends there. I also have good friends who are Islamic and lead very moral, exemplary lives. They also hate what was done on 9/11. There is only one God and if we call him our Heavenly Father, Yaweh or Allah, it is still the same God. This minister will keep thousands, perhaps millions from finding Jesus. He should be ashamed. Perhaps he too needs to find the real Jesus and not some pathetic excuse for hatred.

      • tlludwig

        “There is only one God and if we call him our Heavenly Father, Yaweh or Allah, it is still the same God.” Thats where you are wrong. These Gods are not the same. The “God” of the muslim religion is not the same God of Christianity. Muslims believe “Allah” is the one true God and believe that Jesus was only a prophet. Christians believe that Christ is the son of God and is Lord and Savior.

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