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CAPS' Position Statement Supports Boehner's Call For 14th Amendment Revision

August 13, 2010 by  

CAPS’ position statement supports Boehner’s call for 14th Amendment revisionHouse Minority Leader John Boehner has called for a debate about a possible repeal of the 14th Amendment to the United States constitution to prevent children who are born in the U.S. to illegal immigrants from automatically becoming American citizens.

His idea is strongly supported by Californians for Population Stabilization (CAPS), which has recently published a policy statement entitled American Jackpot: The Remaking of America by Birthright Citizenship. In it the group explains how the policy—which is unusual among first-world democracies—is abused to alter the population size, culture and character of America.

The source quotes Edward J. Erler, a political science professor at Cal State San Bernardino, as saying that “it’s difficult to fathom how those who defy American law can derive benefits for their children by their defiance; or that any sovereign nation would allow such a thing.”

CAPS’ recent output also includes a video entitled Birthright Citizenship & Allegiance to America, which contains an explanation by Chapman University School of Law Dean John Eastman as to why the 14th Amendment does not in fact give the children of illegal immigrants automatic citizenship at birth. He says that is because “legal tourists here to enjoy Disneyland and illegal immigrants who broke into the country clearly do not fall under this blanket of allegiance-owing jurisdiction,” quoted by CAPS website.ADNFCR-1961-ID-19922983-ADNFCR

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  • dan az

    The guy that tried to bomb New york was a legal terrorist. How did he get in and pass all those so called impossible hoops that you say are filled with pit falls for the hard working immigrants.Thats a bunch of bs.The problem that we have now is the system was set up to control the flow and now the flow controls the border.When the true nature of what this usurper is doing to our nation is revealed which is to destroy us from our lax of laws then maybe you will see why there is laws.I hope you live in california or any one of the border states to see the truth of destruction that lies wait for you.Are you following your usurpers vows to redistrabute your wealth If not then you will be soon.

  • http://gmail i41

    nomore gop,14 th amendment is if your parent are a legal alein or a citizen of the USA, not a jackass fence jumper crimminal. Or as you sh-t brained democrats don’t seem to understand, I don’t care if some fence jumper is ready to farrow out, the off spring should not become a citizen. Gather the sow and piglets and send back to the country they wandered out of. If taxpaywers have to support the and provide everything, steralize both and also get the sire and do the same. There is legal ways to come here not fence crawling and breakinf the law. Use the same standrads their native country used where from Mexico or Ireland. Omoron i a prime example of guarding our borders and not paying attention to rules. Everyone is getting sick of the b–l s–t of whining blacks and mexacoons and laws not being enforced in all areas of the USA.

  • NoMoreGOP

    The legal way? Which way is that?

    If one does not know a ranking politician, is foreign royalty, or has a major corporation (MSFT,IBM, or ATT, for example) working for him, the chances are about five less than zero that one can immigrate to the US. There are quotas (believe it or not) useless the fed.gov chooses to ignore those for its own end (ethically corrupt). When the legal quota is reached (England, China, India, Peru, Mexico to name few), there is a minimum 10 year moratorium on immigration from those countries. You can be Sister Teressa, from there and you will not get in… unless you have the above working in your behalf.

    The legal immigration process is fraught with pitfalls that prevent good, honest working class individuals from gaining credible access to US embassies to attempt to get papers to come here legally. In foreign countries, the applicant must first get past their own military to get into the US embassy (depending on the country, the armed guards are instructed on how to respond by their government, not ours). If one gets in (potential immigrant or US citizen) you have snowball’s chance in hell of seeing an American official, meaning one deals with his/her countryman who is coached on how to deny and frustrate all efforts (or get fired). Then there are the costly fees involved (in some nation’s the process includes a needless pre-medical exam) can cost up to six months of average local wages (non-refundable). It is not unusual for the possessing time, if one gets this far, to be an arbitrary 6 to 24 months (as a deterrent, no other logical reason). When and if the preliminary interview is granted, the applicant does not see an American, but another native countryman again (who has no power whatsoever). Needless to say, the answer is always no. That’s how legal immigration really works in the world today. Every step of the way there are illusions, hoops and BS that would frustrate even the most seasoned US attorney. Despite what you may be fed, no one has rights at a US embassy. Only special people get into hte US by “the legal way,” which is so corrupt as be to illegal on its face. Go check it out, if you are not on the “no fly” list.

    Many of you pinheads will probably exult the government’s immigration process fraud, but is constitutionally foul. Your government is just as corrupt as any other on the planet. While you are dancing in the streets at the expense of hard working individuals who dream the American dream but are locked out, look closely at rejecting the 14th Amendment. Equal justice under the law could mean your kids born here and possibly you might be an alien…. unless you are truly native American. Nothing is sacred with the socialists in DC.

    As for some of you being sent back to wherever after a change in the 14th, it might please some of the true American freedom lovers, who support the constitution and its intent, more than you could imagine.

    Be care of the stones you throw… you live in a free country; act like it.

    • Oh Please…

      “The legal immigration process is fraught with pitfalls that prevent good, honest working class individuals from gaining credible access to US embassies to attempt to get papers to come here legally.”

      “Only special people get into hte US by “the legal way,” which is so corrupt as be to illegal on its face.”

      …Spew what you wish, but I know a number of LEGAL immigrants that just happen to be the “good, honest working class individuals” you claim are prevented from managing the legal process & they hold no status that would classify them as ‘special’. What they did have however is motivation, dignity (which included respecting the law) and pride in pursuing their dream (not to mention pride in the country that they sought to become a citizen of, the US).

      Perhaps the process is not easy…..it shouldn’t be. The flow of people coming to the US for citizenship every year has to have some limitations so the sustainability of the population remains manageable (even moreso now, given the “take care of me” mindset that has infected our society). Look at all the fiscal difficulties the country is facing now…..how much better do you think it would be if everyone from everywhere seeking a better life (no matter how genuinely good they are) were able to come here ALL AT ONCE with ease? Why not just bring ALL needy people from ALL the suffering 3rd world countries to live in the US….I’m sure they’d like a better life too (of course they wouldn’t find one here once they all got here with the population level that would exist). Do you even understand the need to measure the influx of legal immigration from year to year?

      You infer that the legal process is so bad that people have no choice but to enter illegally. Well the way I see it, those that enter illegally (and are apparently rewarded for it) only make the process of entering legally slower. Referring back to the legal immigrants I spoke of – yes, they agree the legal process was not a walk in the park, yet these “legal” immigrants have often expressed they are proud to have followed the laws to become a citizen & are proud OF BEING citizens. Each & every one of them however, feel penalized for both when seeing the benefits illegals seem to reap from breaking the law to enter the US & resent the ways that illegals are rewarded here.

  • hundabuxt

    The Fed’s don’t want to close the border completely to illegal immigration. Why is the subject of speculation but the reality of the situation is we have to do it ourselves. We’re ostensibly a government of the people and for the people, a Republic. However our representation is not doing the job they were sent there for. Its called “Malfasance”.

    • John

      Malfasance means leagally unjustified. As you say they are NOT doing, their job, thats not malfasance. It’s simply “not doing their job” don’t make it something it isn’t.

      • hundabuxt

        According to my dictionary malfeasance means: “wrongful conduct by a public official”. Get it?

      • coal miner

        hundabuxt,

        Malfeasance is a legal term that refers to an individual intentionally performing an act that is illegal. Malfeasance is related to two other legal concepts: misfeasance and nonfeasance. Misfeasance, is a legal act performed wrongfully. That is, a public official or a lawyer may do something that is not illegal but is mistaken or erroneous. Nonfeasance , which is closely related to misfeasance, is the failure to act even though a duty to act existed.

  • RV in AZ

    Well from these comments it sure is certain how americans feel about ILLEGAL ALIENs. Now how can we make our public servants(government employees)do what we want them to do. Hey I didn”t vote for Obama, but it is plain to see that he is not doing anything to help us with a major problem, that is costing us all more than we can afford. They must be voted out, and our CHANGES put in, so we can get our country back. Close the border is a must, to start with.

    • John

      Bush did better? Who would do better? Do you think John Boehners call for a debate about a possible repeal of the 14th Amendment is any more than political grandstanding? The only answer to this will infringe on Americans rights, legally requiring all to carry proof of citizenship. Is that what you want?

      • dan az

        Dont you now?

  • Carrie TPT

    According to my copy Amdmt 14 states “All persons born or naturalized in the U.S. . . . are citizens of the U S and the State wherein they reside.”
    It seems pretty clear to me that a child of tourists or illegal aliens does not RESIDE in the US or a state, therefore, are not granted privileges or protection.
    If necessary, one could reasonable infer the residence needs to be a Legal residence.
    They are trying,once again, to Bend the words to serve the Special interests instead of what was written.

  • eddie47d

    The 14th Admendment secI does state that all persons born in the U.S. are citizens of this country. Now all Constitutional admendments can be changed or even abolished. The 14th covers several subjects and some issues have been taken out. The issue of seperate but equal facilities was a contentious issue in 1896. The SCOTUS confirmed at that time that states could discriminate as long as there were equal facilities. Unfortunetly there were no equal facilities,far from it. In 1965 that issue was removed from the 14th and all Americans were treated equally.

    • s c

      Ooops! Eduardo speaks with forked tongue – again. In your own words, dude, you said “In 1965 . . . all Americans were treated equally.” Either you’re a liar, or hack politicians, the ACLU and many other questionable pond scummers have made fortunes proving that you don’t have a clue.
      Let’s take just one example. Your “peers” have made ‘racial profiling’ a highly profitable ‘business.’ Your icons ["Rev." Jesse Jackson, Big Al Sharpton and others] would be on welfare if they weren’t allowed to beat the bushes for instant discrimination cases (real AND imagined).
      Keep it up, guy. You make it easy to put your space cadet beliefs and goals under a bright, public microscope. What marvelous standards you and your chummies have, Eduardo.

      • eddie47d

        SC I said that all citizens are to be treated equally by Law. I never said that they actually are treated equally. You are the one twisting the laws to suit your fancy; with your race baiting garbage. The demons still have control over you and thank God someone like you isn’t on the Supreme Court. Laws don’t necessarily make people behave any better and your living proof of that. I certainly did not bring up Al Sharpton so that is part of your very twisted mind.

    • Smilee

      eddie

      The first two words are “All persons” Read it!!!! The 14th amendment has never been changed!! Interpretations may differ as to meaning but that is very different than changing the amendment.

      • eddie47d

        The 14th Amendment has been challenged over 75 times and changes have been made. The 14th also deals with choosing Representatives.insurrection,due process,equal protection,debt during Civil War and a few others.

  • alpha-lemming

    It’s about time!!
    No incentive…. No problem!!

  • Hans Brinkhuis

    Anybody is welcome in this great country the USA regardless from race
    collor or creed. But the have to immigrate the legal way,hae a passport,visa and work permit the bestway to have a sponsor and speak
    English the language of the land.
    And furthermore let the gornment go after the employers when they hire illegal aliens and revoke their license or give them a big fine..
    And when you immigrate go only to legal port of entry.
    And also obey the law of the land Thank You.Hans Brinkhuis

  • Kris

    Well the democrats and some republicans are already out there saying that republicans hate babies. The 14th Amendment does not say that any baby dropped in the US is automatically a citizen. This was written mainly for the American Indians and in the forefathers sight for the future abolishment of slavery so the slaves would be declared citizens along with their children. Justice Brennan added this little footnote to the amendment when making a decision on birthright. Once again the Justices add their own little political or left views when trying to decide what the constitution really says!

  • Deborah

    They know what they are doing is wrong. Votes may count, but I’m here to tell you that I’ll go state to state talking to every old person I can find if he passes any form of laws allowing them to vote.
    You’ll really see his numbers drop then. We have more voters than illegals!
    Education goes a long way! As does creditability.

    • dan az

      If there is 40 million here and they get amnesty and become citizens cant they bring in there relatives? Seems to me that the vietnam people once married brought in the rest of there families.Not sure but if that is true then how many more will there be to vote?

      • http://?? Joe H.

        dan az,
        I think they can sponsor their relatives but they still have to go through the usual inspection, infection, and injection that the others have to!

  • gary
  • Larry Uloth

    I would always fear opening up the constitution. That said, if we can have the S.C. affirm the second amendment and still allow cities to tack on their own regulations why can’t we do the same here.
    A federal law, stating that NO infant born in the U.S. or areas considered to be U.S. soil (embasseys etc.) may be given U.S. citizenship UNLESS AT LEAST ONE OR MORE OF THEIR MARRIED BLOOD PARENTS ALREADY HAD U.S. CITIZENSHIP ETITHER BORN OR NATURALIZED AT THE TIME OF THEIR BIRTH.
    This seems an easier way to achieve what we want NO ANCHOR BABIES.

    • Jeep

      And, until that happens, it seems logical to me, that we know the whereabouts and status of at least one illegal; the mother. Give ‘em a choice, leave your baby here while you’re being deported, or take it with you. Either way deport the mother.

  • BR

    The problem is that the Constitution was written more then 200 years ago. If our Founding Fathers’ realized what would happen 200 years into the future they would have made BIG changes.

    When the Constitution was written this was a huge, mostly uncharted land. Most of the people here were here due to problems in their homeland- debt, servitude,religion, indenture (white slavery), etc.

    The Constitution has been “bastardized” over the course of 200 years to meet the needs of a growing nation. Sometimes painful.

    Anyone that is not a US citizen should not have the right to expect any consideration under it’s laws.

    The damage to this country is so overwhelming that the entire infrastructure of our nation is damaged. The consistant election of inappropriate politicians over the decades has caused a weakness of this country that it may never be the US we expect again.

    The borders of this country should have been a number one priority over 30 years ago. The consistant allowances of Washington DC to allow
    illegal activity regarding our borders (and sometimes rubber stamping it *Marielle Boat Lift*”)helped cause 9/11 and the on-going threat to the citizens of this country. Nothing good has come from allowing the constant flow of immigrants into a country that is already over-stressed. If we weigh the overall good to bad: we have gangs ruling our cities; we have drug cartels running our neighborhoods,etc.

    Our politicians have been so busy catering to foreign entities for so many decades, they forgot their first responsibility- the US citizens.

    We are an indecisive nation and it is no secret to the world.

    We go to war with you-then we build you a new country and go into business with you; we try to stop the illegals from Mexico-then the President is in Mexico; we go to war under the guise of “peace-keeping” missions, our kids are killed and Washington still ties their hands when it comes to dealing with traitors.

    I have lost so many of my liberties in the past 20 years to accommodate foreign immigrants that I am looking into becoming an Ex-Pat.

    I do not WANT to learn Spanish, nor do I want my children to; I do not want to be “felt-up” just trying to fly within the US.; I am tired
    of not being hired for employment because there is a quota to be made at the hiring company.

    I no longer feel safe in my own country. I no longer understand
    what it is to be an American (except to be hated by others and always bowing to others).

    The politicians have made this country a laughing-stock and others can anticipate every move we will make regarding any given situation.

    They know that Washington goes against it’s own citizens in order to pacify- this is not a government “for the people”- it’s a government “by the people”. I would love to see all of the polls empty
    all across the country in the next election- STOP VOTING IN POLITICIANS THAT DO NOT PUT AMERICANS FIRST!

    • GaryTraditionalUltraConservative

      Now you can very easily and very clearly understand why our Founding Fathers required in the Constitution that “WE THE PEOPLE” in order to prevent any form of tyranny from suppressing and from oppressing the will of “WE THE PEOPLE” and the Constitution of, by and for “WE THE PEOPLE” that protects, defends, preserves and guarantees the God Given Rights and the Liberties and the Freedoms and the Justice of “WE THE PEOPLE”, all the rights to bear arms(obviously guns) as GUARANTEED by the SECOND AMENDMENT to the Constitution for the self protection and self defense of “WE THE PEOPLE” against all forms of tyranny, both foreign and domestic, and the right to form an armed(equipped with guns) Militia of the People, by the People and for the People against all forms of tyranny both domestic(our corrupt, dishonest, abusive, selfish, self serving and hypocrite elected and appointed Local, State and Federal government coward and treasonous traitor criminal representatives, especially appointed judges who routinely legislatively Tyrannize “WE THE PEOPLE” and Dictate from the bench their own personal opinions and their own personal philosophical and political ideologies and their own personal philisophical and political agendas as selfish, self serving, irresponsible and abusive Ultra Egotistical Meglo Maniac Dictatorial Tyrannical Legislative Judicial Dictators(like a Mafia God Father or Mafia Don “Let me make you a deal that you cannot refuse!”, BECAUSE A JUDGE HAS THE CORRUPT OMINPOTENT POWER TO DENY, REFUSE, OBSTRUCT AND RESCIND THE WILL OF “WE THE PEOPLE” and “Interpret”(meaning to deliberately and intentionally ignore, contradict, violate and break any part or parts of the Constitution at their own whim, at their own choosing and at their own political, philosophical and ideological opinionated, prejudiced and biased conveniences) just like in the former Communist Stalinist Soviet Union), against the Constitution of, by and for “WE THE PEOPLE” and against the will of “WE THE PEOPLE”, who must all be held 100% accountable and who must all be held 100% responsible and who must all be held 100% criminally liable because they consciously, knowingly, voluntarily, selfishly, criminally, deliberately and intentionally refuse or refused to honestly, genuinely and faithfully honor and fulfill their own sacred sworn public oaths, obligations and duties to always continuously faithfully, genuinely, and honestly uphold, protect, defend, preserve, obey and enforce the ENTIRE Constitution of, by and for the will of “WE THE PEOPLE” without any exceptions, without any excuses and without any interruptions of any types at any time and with 100% total integrity and 100% total accountability everywhere at all times, and against all foreign enemies( including ALL illegal alien Foreign Nationals who of course are not U.S. American Citizens and who are not illegal immigrants because ALL Foreign National illegal aliens by defintion are not immigrants in any way, shape, form, condition or definition and should never be permitted and should never be granted the Legal Status of immigrants because ALL illegal alien Foreign Nationals have consciously, knowingly, voluntarily, deliberately and intentionally criminalized themselves to be illegal aliens which are by definition simply just another type of criminal not much different from house burglars, car jackers, shoplifters, pick pockets, purse snatchers, identity thieves, drunk drivers, rapists, child molesters, white collar or blue collar embezzlers, muggers and bank robbers, etc., etc. and etc. The Legal Status of Immigrant within the United States is NOT a Right and it is NOT a human right. The Legal Status of Immigrant within the United States is ONLY a Privilege and it has always been ONLY a Privilege that must be and that can ONLY be Legally EARNED by always continuously respecting and obeying ALL mandatory required Constitution mandated U.S. Federal Immigration Laws everywhere and at all times within the sovereign borders of the United States without any exceptions, without any excuses, without any interruptions, without any delays and without any conditions of any types at any time. ALL Foreign National Illegal Aliens criminalize themselves by committing the crime of stealing the status of Immigrant anbd fraudulantly calling themselves “illegal immigrants” or by fraudulantly calling themselves “undocumented workers” much the same as a drug dealer calling himself “an unlicensed pharmacist” or a house burglar who calls himself “an unauthorized house guest” or “an uninvited house guest” or a rapist who calls himself “an unlicensed sex therapist” or bank robber calling himself “an unauthorized bank customer” or “an illegal bank customer” “who made an illegal withdrawl of bank money from a bank without permission from that bank” or “who made an unauthorized withdrawl of bank money from a bank without permission from that bank”, instead of Legally EARNING the status of Immigrant by always faithfully, genuinely, honestly, routinely and continuously obeyiny ALL U.S. Federal Immigration Laws everywhere at all times). It is now long overdue for “WE THE PEOPLE” who always continuously faithfully, genuinely and honestly uphold, honor, protect, defend, preserve, obey and enforce the ENTIRE Constitution everywhere at all times with 100% total integrity and with 100% total accountability everywhere at all times to do exactly that which is to always faithfully, honestly and genuinely continuously honor, respect, fulfill and act upon all sacred sworn public oaths, obligations and duties to always continuously faithfully, genuinely and honestly uphold, protect, defend, preserve, obey and enforce the ENTIRE Constitution without any exceptions, without any excuses, without any interruptions, without any biases, without any prejudices and without any conditions of any types at any time everywhere and at all times with 100% total integrity and with 100% total accountabilty everywhere at all times. If our elected and appointed government representatives of, by and for the will of “WE THE PEOPLE” refuse and will not honor, respect and fulfill their scared sworn public oaths, duties and obligations, then by default of our Local, State and Federal governments, “WE THE PEOPLE” automatically inherit maintaining, upholding, protecting, defending, preserving, obeying and enforcing the ENTIRE Constitution everywhere and at all times.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      BR,
      Actually, it should have been a priority after IKE sent them back the first time! We should have taken measures then to keep them on their side of the border except in cases of LEGAL immigration!!!

  • http://gmail i41

    The 14th amandment says children of citizen of the the USA. Not illegal alien crimminals, which several idoitsdon’t understand or forget to read. When livestock crawel fences we kick them back to their own pastures and defentately keep the young, because that rustling charges. Also the pastures owner gets a feed and handling bill!!

  • B.C.

    Maybe we should brand Mexicans that come up here illegally right on the forehead, then send them on the oldest, sorriest school buses we have left in the country back to Mexico, and if someone is caught coming up over the wall that already has the law breakers brand, them we could just shoot them on the spot.
    … Texas style, right on the brand dead center.
    The brand could be a bulls eye for all I care.
    They had their warning.

    I’m willing to bet no one here would even think of sneaking into another country and stealing goods and services from them, why do we care so much about those that would do that to us…
    “Because we are Americans“= dumb brainwashed idiots incapable of thinking for ourselves.
    Mexicans don’t give warnings, they throw your ass into a stinking dirty Mexican hellhole for 5 years minimum.

    • Jana

      Not only that but these Mexican Citizens stand at the border and throw rocks at the Border Patrol. Rocks are very real weapons. So what is this with the head of the Border Patrol telling his forces to NOT arrest anyone?

    • http://LibertyAlert Dan44

      Great idea, all we need now is some politician with some balls to do it.
      I think if four of five hundred were shot, the word would spread and
      our problem with these border jumpers would be solved for good.

      • Granny Mae

        I have said for a long time they should build the fence and then on our side of the fence make a landmine field of about the size of half a football field. Then on the Mexican side we place a sign in spanish saying STOP Land mine field . Danger go back ! We could even broadcast on loud speakers that the landmines are there and they will cross at their own risk !

      • Jana

        Well, it wouldn’t hurt because half of them are carrying drugs, big 80# back packs full of dope and the leaders are carrying AK’s and other weapons. They wouldn’t hesitate using those weapons either.

      • Jana

        They could put dummy mines and put up signs in Spanish to make them think there is a mine field.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Granny Mae,
        I thought of that but it wouldn’t work. They would just watch and make maps of where they are when you lay them!!! The best thing would be to put up a good concrete wall and put concertina wire on top but make it special with barbs twice as long and periodically run some voltage that will knock them out but not kill!! Never repeat the same intervals and put sensors that will sense when someone is climbing it and give them a little more!!!

      • J.C.

        ….just like Escape from New York…maybe some good ‘booby traps’ as well.

  • Norm

    It’s amazing that our “fake suntan” hypocrite wants to change the very constitution that he swears by.
    I guess it’s all right to change the rules if they suit YOU.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Norm,
      Don’t be a dum azz!! Do you realize what the term Ammendment means?? It means they CHANGED the constitution in the first place!!!!

      • TIME

        Joe,
        That would require thinking, now we go back and look at the source, if I had a buck for every stupid post made by him alone with out delving into syntax issues, I could buy a new 911 C fully loaded on Monday and pay the tax’s too. But I digress, what else is new?

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Actually Time, I think all of us conservatives could afford one!!! He bull$hits a lot!!!!

  • Trish

    This is madness. Our leaders are leading us okay, but down down down. You don’t see other Countries letting babies become citizens of their Country. Mexico would never allow this policy in their country. So we need to wake up and somebody do something. Who?? I have no idea, just remember November we can vote them all out, but will the new ones be any better. God help us.

  • FlaJim

    Congress simply need to pass legislation declaring that the the 14th Amendment doesn’t apply to children born to invaders like those from south of the border and that previous Supreme Cout decisions on the matter are nullified. Congress has that authority under Article III of the Constitution.

    Our elected GOP representatives seem to be as ignorant of the Constitution as many (most?) in the judicuary.

    • Smilee

      Article III does not deal with the powers of Congress but with the power of the courts!!

  • f a

    The 14th amendment of the Constitution was never entered into the ratification process properly, as both houses of Congress refused to seat members of the ‘rebel’ states. Result: all 36 States were not represented properly. To add insult to injury, the ratification process by the States is questionable. (There have been cases brought before the SCOTUS, but they won’t rule; why? “it’s political” is the answer.)
    There was an agenda for the US government to pass this amendment, no matter what Constitutional laws they had to break, and that’s the REAL problem with the 14th amendment. While it did give ‘citizenship’ to the former slaves, it enslaved everyone who signed up for ‘US citizenship’. Why did they exclude “Indians not taxed”? This amendment is pure evil.
    But, it’s an amendment that Karl Marx would be proud of!

  • LAConfidential

    Our politicians could have stopped this stupidity long ago. They didn’t. Ted Kennedy was a strong supporter of bringing every Tom, Dick, and Habib over here that he could find. The opening-of-the-door to the worlds’ peoples into our country needs to be closed for maintenance for a few years. Immigration levels that were sustainable in the pre-war days have been encouraged to increase to unsustainable levels (Pre-War levels: approx 130,000/yr. – - Today: approx 1,000,000/yr. PLUS). This country, specifically this country’s BUDGET cannot sustain this type of growth from an outside source. It just cannot. Any basic economic student can see these numbers and realize this. It is time for the people to FORCE our politicians to realize this as well. No more stupidity from D.C…..well, I know I’m asking a lot.

  • http://www.purple50.org Gregory Zorn

    I do not beleave the Constitution does give citizenship to the children of illegal people, the very omportant qualifying statment
    “and subject to the jurisdiction thereof” prevents the illegal becomong legal. If one has entered illegaly are they subject to our jurisdiction? I say no. At the time of the 14th Ammendment our represenatives were still fairly thoughtfull men, law abiding men and how this Ammendment 14 has morfed into giving legal status to law breakers is defies logic. Todays politicans talk of changing the Amendment when it should be chalanged or held to its true meaning, and that is not give citizenship to the children of illegal people.

    • http://14thamendmentrevision Annie

      I think the purpose of trying to change this amendment is so that the govt. can get more votes to keep them in office. The purpose of having a child here to get citizenship sucks and if an American had a baby in another country, what do you suppose the consequences would be? Not that any woman would want to do that. I believe they should keep it as it is. What is wrong with this country, giving anything and everything away like it was candy. Why can’t the politicians adhere to the CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AS WRITTEN AND THINK THEY CAN IMPROVE ON IT? THEY ARE FOOLS AND THEY HAVE TO BE VOTED OUT. A clean slate might be what this country needs, politicians have become n’er do wells about its CITIZENS RIGHTS and only care that they have a lifelong career in telling us what to do and what is right. WE ARE NOT STUPID. We can’t do any worse than we are doing now with them in office.

      • Jana

        My friends granddaughter was born in Germany. They had to get her legally set up that she was a US citizen or else when she turns 18 she would have to go back and serve in their military.
        Maybe we ought to have some strings attached to these ‘citizens’ and families of these ‘citiznes’.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Jana,
        If your friend was in the service, the child was automatically a citizen of the US!!!

      • Jana

        JoeH,
        Yes they were in the service, but I went over and she was scrambling to get the baby’s passport and citizenship status. Maybe they use that to get these parents going cause I thought the same thing, that they were automatically US citizens. In fact she was born in a Post Hosptial. hmmm, now you have me to wondering lol

      • libertytrain

        Joe – Jana – sounds screwy to me as well.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Jana,
        When I was in Germany, a friend of mines wife has a baby and all they had to have was the birth certificate from the post hospital to bring the baby home.

      • Jana

        Maybe I misunderstood, or maybe she did. I know she was working against a deadline of 3 months, but I was not there that long. If I remember she had to get the baby’s SS# and something else. Oh well, I am glad to know that it is not the case. She also may have heard others say something and took it for truth.

  • David in Ma.

    As a sovereign nation, America can and should have her own laws, every other country does and we are no different. Build the fence and deport the illegals and their children even if the children were born here or not, American law is being violated and the violators must not benefit from that.

    There are two fairly new built prisons which have never been used, one in California and another (i think) in Wisconson, they were probably built to house American citizens who will resist a U.N.One world Government/New World Order, but will work just as well to house illegal immigrants.

    And to pay for their incaracition bill Mexico or better yet stop all aid to Mexico. In fact if the federal government stopped all aid to sanctuary cities in America it would save around 100 BILLION DOLLARS+ a year, that would pay for a lot of border patrol officers and jails!

    • J.M.R.

      A ROPE IS CHEAPER THAN JAILS

      • Norm

        J.M.R.
        The problem is once ropes start swinging, you may be on the dangling end.

      • J.M.R.

        wl norm if break the law so be it, but why should we keep spending to house law breakers.

      • J.M.R.

        well if i

    • Jana

      David in Ma.,
      As far as repealing this amendment we ought to clarify it. I heard this last night and it made a lot of sense. Clarify it to state in no uncertain terms as to what it was intended for in the first place, the slaves. That way they don’t have to take it out all together if that is what is bothering them.

      • Smilee

        The motivation for the amendment was for former slaves but the drafters did not use the word they used the word “all persons” not former slaves and I believe all means all, your spin does not hold water.

      • Jana

        Smilee,
        The king of all spinners.

  • J.M.R.

    don’t blame it all the mexs if we had people in D.C. THAT WERE REALLY AMERICANS we would not be in this mess. we can’t get these jerk offs to close our borders or protect our people. then in the same breathe were not allowed to protects our selves with out a chance of being sent to jail our selves. don’t think i’m defending the illegals as i’m not, they need one warning then that the end of it.

  • http://Constitution Sherian

    Our country is based on this wonderful document and it has lasted for over 200 years…..but, certain peoples are using it against us….Mexicans are coming across the border to have their babies in droves to take advantage of us and our constitution. They are driving us into the poor house and Mexico, who should be taking care of their people, are laughing outloud at our stupidity. Muslims coming from the Middle East are settleing into our cities and using the constitution against us..and wanted to impose Sharia Law. How many “honor killings” should we accept here in the name of allah…..give me a break! I don’t want to see the constitution changed, but if an amendment will protect us as a nation..so be it….Being politically correct and also be politically stupid……….

    • Jana

      Sherian,
      Not just Mexicans, but even China. China has places here in the US where women can come a month or so before its time to deliver their babies. They stay for about 3 months and go home with a US Citizen in their arms.

      • Pete

        @Jana – plse produce proof of this statement. If it was possible for Chinese females to come to America this way, I would know it. I think you are mistaken.

      • s c

        Pete, don’t take this the wrong way, but you sound like you’ve been living in a cave. Check with 60 Minutes. Even progressives know about this. They just don’t want to talk about it or admit it.

      • Pete

        @ S C With all due respect, these statements are nothing but hearsay and unfounded. Exactly what “places” exist controlled by China for the purpose of childbirth on US soil? Roundtrip airfare is at least 1,000 dollars per person. Chinese people don’t need our “benefits”. Waiting for concrete evidence.

      • Jana

        Pete,
        I have been hearing it on the radio. I am sure China is not the only country that is doing this.

      • JoMama

        Jana – I have heard this before. I heard it was the Russians & Czechs who PAY the “travel agent” to come here so these women can have their anchor babies. It’s NOT just the Mexicans & such.
        I live in Massachusetts & where I come from there is an abundance of Brazilians (mostly) & South Americans. I hear (from the local BIASED newspaper – MetroWest Daily News) that they are going back to their countries because of either threats of enforcement or lack of jobs.
        I DO NOT SEE THAT!!! I still see them EVERYWHERE!!
        What I also see is more & more Asian & Hindu/Muslim jamming themselves into my cities & towns. And THAT’S on top of the crap already here……illegally!! They ALL overstay their visas.
        I cannot go ANYWHERE without someone speaking some other language OTHER than English.
        Only in the United States……..and our Allah fearing leader will do NOTHING about it – except help ANYONE other than legal AMERICAN CITIZENS!!
        It’s treason & it’s shameful!!!

    • EddieW

      They are ripping us off, coming here to have their babies, then qualifying for all the freebies…If the mother is not an American Citizen…the baby should not be either!! It works perfectly that other way now…McCain was born in Panama, but his mother was a US citizen…therefore he is also!!…perhaps true with Obama too…if his mother was a citizen at the time!!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        EddieW,
        wonder how many of them would come here if we passed a law that said the BABY could stay but not the parent!! We put the baby up for adoption or it goes back with its mother to Mexico!!!

      • Kathy

        This has been abused for many years and here in Texas, it’s many of the babies born in the border cities’ hospitals. You’d be amazed at the number of pregnant young women walking around WalMart and many of them look as if birth is imminent. Also there are Hotels on the east coast who cater to foreigners who want their babies born on American soil for citizenship benefits. You can look them up on Google.

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