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The Lapdogs Of War

August 12, 2010 by  

The Lapdogs Of War

Iranian General Hossein Kan’ani Moghadam announced Tuesday that his nation’s military has begun digging mass graves for our troops should the United States decide to level the Persian soccer pitch.  Speaking through the Fars “news agency” (described by London’s Daily Mail as semi-official, and clearly neither more nor less credible than MSNBC) Moghadam said:

“The mass graves that used to be for burying Saddam’s soldiers have now been prepared again for U.S. soldiers, and this is the reason for digging this big number of graves.”

Analysts suggest General Moghadam is saber-rattling, which is either silly (the 101st Airborne v. the Revolutionary Guard is Mike Tyson v. Marvis Frazier stuff), stupid (he’ll die) or both (his army will get beat like the French and he’ll still die.)

Ever since 2005 Seymour Hersh has been screeching about American plans to attack Iran.  While there is undoubtedly an American battle plan for the Islamic dictatorship—as there are similar contingency plans for attacks on every credible threat on the planet—no such effort has come to pass.  And with Barack Obama’s Presidency flailing like Keith Olbermann searching for talent, no such effort is likely to materialize. 

Not that I would mind if the Navy fired a cruise missile up Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s tailpipe, but Iran has been funding Islamofascist terrorism for the better part of three decades—so what would be the point?  Turning Teheran into a parking lot just to whack the world’s best-armed midget isn’t what I would describe as a good deployment of military resources.  That’s swatting a fly—with an F-18.

But here’s a question for the class:  even though we CAN beat Iran like a rented mule; SHOULD we?  Iran is developing weapons of mass destruction—the actual, nuclear kind.  Iran is a terrorist state.  But Saddam Hussein gassed, murdered and tortured hundreds of thousands.  The Taliban and al-Qaida have declared war on everyone who thinks women look better in clothing smaller than king-size bed sheets.  And we can’t agree on dropping them to the canvas long enough to let our military deliver a knockout punch.

Instead, duplicitous pontifications and politicians whom I wouldn’t trust with a potato gun have turned both Iraq and Afghanistan into multi-billion dollar reality TV shows.

In 1985, Studs Terkel won a Pulitzer for his World War II history “The Good War.”  Terkel, an otherwise unremarkable blowhard, doubtless chose the title as a clever allegory for the dichotomous American view of warfare. 

Only the most depraved or combative think of war as “good.”  In the utopian ideal, civilized humans would settle their differences with methods which didn’t involve artillery.  I’m the first guy to say I’d be a lot happier if the entire ruling class of Iran suffered simultaneous coronaries from getting overheated at a flash of ankle at Sid Sharia’s Burka Bar.  But that’s unlikely, so how long do we allow a circus freak like Ahmadinejad to shake his little fist before we pop him in the snoot with an AC-130?

While there may not be such a thing as a “good war,” there IS such a thing as a “good” war.  If a creepy Austrian with a terrible barber manages to convince an industrially-capable European nation to march across the continent in support of a world vision which includes gas ovens for 6 million to 12 million people—war is the only answer.  The alternative—which includes living on a planet controlled by thin, pale and excessively neat people who think the “Horst Wessel Song” is groovy—is too horrible to contemplate.

I am not preaching total war on a planetary scale.  It costs good men and women their lives and, less importantly, it costs money.  Moghadam is a lunatic in a third rate army which ended up sending 9-year-olds to get gassed at the front during a decade-long conflict with the other-kind-of-muslim lunatic next door.

Bellicosity from the world’s almost-nuclear junior varsity gives me pause.  Nearly 70 years after we took Hitler and Hirohito out behind the woodshed, we still have plenty of crazy in the neighborhood.  Putting aside our massive economic issues, major problems with border security and Nancy Pelosi, after seven decades we still can’t figure out when the next good war will be.

Since politics kept us from tossing al-Qaida, the Taliban and Islamofascism in general on the same historical ash heap to which we consigned the bad guys of WWII, I’m going to say no way on Iran. 

Some people DO deserve killing, but these guys aren’t worth the bullet.  

Yet.

Ben Crystal

is a 1993 graduate of Davidson College and has burned the better part of the last two decades getting over the damage done by modern-day higher education. He now lives in Savannah, Ga., where he has hosted an award-winning radio talk show and been featured as a political analyst for television. Currently a principal at Saltymoss Productions—a media company specializing in concept television and campaign production, speechwriting and media strategy—Ben has written numerous articles on the subjects of municipal authoritarianism, the economic fallacy of sin taxes and analyses of congressional abuses of power.

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  • Bitter Libertarian

    Defense Does not make the Kind of Money WAR and Nation Building does.

    Its all about the Dollar, EVERYTHING POLITICAL is about Money including who is labeled Bad Guy!

    The More Scary, the bigger the threat the more $ to be made.

    NEVER underestimate the motivation to make money.

    Russia = Big Threat = Big Dollars.

    When that wall fell something had to replace it, something bigger that motivates more fear in people.

    Terrorism Fits the Bill PERFECTLY. No defined enemy–could be your neighhbor..willing to blow themselves up to “make a point”. Can strike anywhere at anytime at anyone….EVIDENCE to point that this will strike fear into the heart so deep, people will be willing to give up their money and their rights.

    It Worked and its making them over 3/4 trillion Annually for the past 9 years 9soon to be a DECADE.

  • Bitter Libertarian

    Defence Does not make the Kind of Money WAR and Nation Building does.

    Its all about the Dollar, EVERYTHING POLITICAL is about Money including who is labeled Bad Guy!

    The More Scary, the bigger the threat the more $ to be made.

    NEVER underestimate the motivation to make money.

    Russia = Big Threat = Big Dollars.

    When that wall fell something had to replace it, something bigger that motivates more fear in people.

    Terrorism Fits the Bill PERFECTLY. No defined enemy–could be your neighhbor..willing to blow themselves up to “make a point”. Can strike anywhere at anytime at anyone….EVIDENCE to point that this will strike fear into the heart so deep, people will be willing to give up their money and their rights.

    It Worked and its making them over 3/4 trillion Annually for the past 9 years 9soon to be a DECADE.

    • 45caliber

      Further, they can condition the people to do something that they would never have done ten years ago: report their neighbors to the police for the slightest thing. They have been trying to get that done for years. It is one of the requirements for a really solid police state.

      • kate8

        BL, 45, The good news is, we’re figuring this stuff out.

  • DaveH

    I think we should arm ourselves to the teeth (we’re already there), and butt out of other countries conflicts. If they attack our country, then we hammer them. Take out something like 3 of them for every one of ours, and then get out. No Nation Building. We leave that to them. They will hate us. They do anyway. But they will respect us and leave us alone because they will then know the consequences. We need to bring our soldiers home and put that money to much better uses like securing our own borders.
    And we need to shrink Government back to their original intent. That is to protect the citizens from the force of others. Otherwise they need to butt out of our lives.
    And we need to get out of the United Nations before they take us over like the Federal Government has taken over the States.
    Vote Libertarian.

    • JC

      Hear Hear !!

    • 45caliber

      DaveH:

      I agree with most of what you say. But I disagree about getting out of the UN.

      What I think we need to do with the UN is: First, get them out of the US. A good island somewhere would be fine.

      Second, we need to start actually doing what we can to defend our country among them instead of meekly agreeing to anything some dictator comes up with. That includes exercising our veto power. I think we’ve only done that a half dozen times or more. Russia and China do it all the time … and I can’t blame them. If the UN comes up with some stupid treaty (Small Arms Treaty comes to mind) we should simply veto it as being contrary to our Constitution and way of life instead of saying, “Well, all the other countries want us to do (pay) for that so we should.”

      Remaining a member of the UN gives us far more ability for information gathering and a way to actually find out what the heck they are trying to do.

      • DaveH

        There are other ways to gather information. Ways that are safer for our Freedom.

      • DaveH

        If you think the UN isn’t dangerous to our Freedom, you need to read more. We are powerful, but we can’t stand up to the whole world. Well, maybe we can stand up, but we would probably lose.
        http://gunowners.org/op05042010ep.htm

      • 45caliber

        Being a member is only dangerous if you have nitwits like Oblama in office. And it wouldn’t matter if we were a member or not in that case.

      • DaveH

        45,
        Remember the Civil War? Why were the Southerners really attacked? It wasn’t slavery, that was trumped up later. It was because they dared to split away.
        The same process could take place if we let ourselves get too entangled in the United Nations.

      • http://naver Samurai

        Dave H, we have butted heads before, but I think what you posted makes a lot of sense. Keep up the good fight! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • kate8

      DaveH, I agree.

  • Bitter Libertarian

    From the Declaration of Independence:

    “In every stage of these oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people”

    To the POTUS, All 50 Senators and Every Congressman I suggest you all find another line of work.

  • Ricky Roo

    I think they had it right in the “Godfather” you wait until the time is right and then take out all you adversaries all at once in one day and then you will have peace for a long time to come and it will give pause to all the other radical “want to bes” that they too can follow the same fate.

    • kate8

      Ricky, the problem is, it is not just OUR government who wants, instigates and finances these wars. It’s the globalist elite NWO crowd controlling our gov’t.

      The other problem is, they want to get rid of US as well as everyone else.

  • think about

    Sometimes when I read comments it seems like the only difference in muslims and so called “christians” (like Mcvey) is in name only. They all promote hate. I am a proud christian who does not hate and think the answer to someone else thinking different lies in guns and war.

    • Bitter Libertarian

      Its Interesting to hear the people who have 2 copies of the Bible and 2 copies of the Constitution: 1 Copy for preaching from, one for wiping their arse. Nuke em out of FEAR! Demand the GOVT protect them from HOMOS, and get pissed when the GOVT protects them from you.

      When will people learn to mind their own bussiness?
      When will people learn every time they ask the Govt to
      get involved in their FEAR the LOSE rigts themselves!!
      Dealing with GOVT is Like dealing with a devil…you will
      get what you ask for..but you will lose it all in the end.

      For the record I served the US Military on Active Duty for
      20 years. 100% Pro Military. 100% Pro Constitution
      and yes being pro Constitution means you DO NOT ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU WANT!

      I Firmly believe that Some People need to stop being so afraid. I wont call those that need courage names. I would suggest opening your eyes and realizing the FACTS about IRAN and the Middle east as a whole. Sure they are disliking us … Their lands are Filled with our Corporate adjendas! Now our Lands are getting filled with their Adjendas…we dont Like it eather. Take away the Corporations, Military Leaders, and Goverments and Most people get along. If that means “we stay in our yard, and you stay in yours” thats actually a NORMAL Peaceful situation!

      The US has no written Foreign Policy, and whatever you call what we do “meddling Neighbor”, “Bully”, “Nosey Neighbor”, or “Unwanted House Guest”, BOTTOM LINE is all the politicians over the past 40 years have done what they want, how they want and look at where it got us!!

      Had our policy been successful over the past 50 years, and then Obama came along and screwed it up, Most Nations and their people would not forget all the Good we have done.

      Reality Check People…You and I Live, work, pay taxes, and trusted our Political Leaders for the last 100 years. Many of us did not want to get involved in this political stuff because we like to live life and not be bothered with politics. The Constitution is a “set of rules” for the Govt and thats that. While we were trusting they were doing right, they went astray..VERY FAR astray! Now its time to Throw away that “model of American Behavior” and get back to the basics of Constitutional Republic Goverment.
      Lets Have a Foreign Policy in writing that BINDS our Leaders to RULES and CONDUCT. Lets Follow our OWN Constitution across America and Begin Repealing UNCONSTITUTIONAL LAWS.
      We Should start by Ending the federal reserve the lake of Corruption that feeds every form of corruption in America.

      • 45caliber

        There are two ways to have freedom – and ONLY two ways.

        First, you can take all freedom for yourself. Dictators like to do this. You are free to do or say anything you like but you stomp hard on anyone who disagrees with you.

        Second, you recognize others as free as long as they do the same for you. You don’t butt into their business and they leave you alone to handle yours. If something comes up that involves you both, you sit down and work out a compromise.

        The main trouble is that most people want to have the first one. “You do as I say – or else!” And our government is big on that one.

    • 45caliber

      think about:
      First it is just as big a sin to be “proud of it” than to hate. So don’t go there.

      However, I have no hate for anyone. I do have a desire to protect what is mine, particularly my family. I have no interest in starting a war with Iran – in fact I think some of their acts like digging these holes to be funny. But TO THEM, this is a firm move of defense against attack.

      However – if attacked, I have no interest in a prolonged war with our people being killed because we refuse to use all efforts to end the war. As Patton once said, the whole idea of war is to make the enemy die for their country – not die for ours. And that means we should do all we can to limit our casualties instead of trying to make them equal to those of the enemy’s.

      So – if they attack, nuke them. No casualties on our side at all that way. And do a good enough job that we insure they won’t bother us again for at least a thousand years and frighten the rest of the world enough that they don’t want to attack us either.

      “Walk soft but carry a BIG stick!”

      • Angel Wannabe

        45, I remember my Dad,(he’s gone now) a WWII Vet infantry, Okinawa__and some of his stories_He never spoke of the War much, unless it was something funny__Once in a while, he’d get serious about it, and always ended the sentence with ” We were there to do a job, in War, it was kill or be killed!

      • Angel Wannabe

        45 and I also believe Afganistan is becoming another Vietnam!

      • 45caliber

        I think it is a way to keep the military (which the libs don’t trust and hate) away from our country until they succeed in whatever it is they want to do.

        In a real war, you don’t ask for permission to shoot when someone shoots at you. Congress wants to micro-manage all wars now (instead of declaring war and letting the President and generals do it) so they can get credit for anything that works and blame the generals for anything that doesn’t. And, as HH Humphery said about ‘Nam, “It doesn’t matter how many soldiers are killed as long as we (the Senators) can get credit for ending it.”

    • Bob

      Some of these people call themselves Christians and then advocate the use of Nuclear Weapons.

    • kate8

      think, B.S. You don’t see any Christians rioting and murdering those who ridicule their beliefs. You don’t see them cutting people’s heads off because they are not Christian. You don’t see demands to convert under penalty of death.

      Self defense is not the same as fighting out of hate. Muslims hate. Christians don’t want their children being forced to wear robes and bow to Mecca.

    • dan az

      Think about this
      this is the second time Mcvaey has come up,Yes he was a fool but he was set up there was a third party that promoted him which never got mentioned. Some think he was a fed others don’t believe he existed but the fact that he was there has been covered up by the feds.My son was one of the investigators for the cid when he asked about the third guy he was told to drop it by the feds. when he took pictures of the back wall of the fed office he noticed that there wasn’t any damage,the blast was from the inside.set charges on the columbs that showed outward bending of the rebar. the feds took his camera from him when they noticed what he was doing and was pulled from the case.
      There is alot more information on this but I probably said to much now.

  • eddie47d

    There is a huge difference between being prepared for war and being suicidal about stoking those wars. We need to pick and choose our aggressions more carefully and stay out of other persons backyards. A strong defense can be a smart offense if needed but not to go after a few big mouths in the world. I hear too much bluster about turning Iran into a sea of glass or making it our 51st State. No thanks and that second suggestion is rather bizarre. Then there’s the one about taking over Iran and combining it with Iraq. Those two countries can’t stand each other or the majority sects. That would bring even further turmoil to the region. Ahmadinejad wants to wipe out Israel and some of you want to wipe out Iran. So all the hot air isn’t only coming from the Iranian desert! Ahmadinejad isn’t much different than Chavez of Venezuela and maybe the threat of war is what keeps them in power. We can do much better.

    • 45caliber

      The Sunni and the Shites have been fighting since Mohammed died. I don’t remember which is which, but one group wanted to set up Mohammed’s nephew as his heir since that was the closest male relative and the other side wanted the most holy man. The nephew wasn’t even close to being holy. He lost and moved with many of his supporters to Turkey. There he developed the Cult of the Assassin and invented Paradise. (There is no reference to Paradise or the “72″ virgins in the Koran or the Qoran.) He tried to rule by assassination.

      Some years later his heir tried it on the Mongols as well. The Mongols wiped him out. At present there is NO ONE that can claim kindred with Mohammed but they are still fighting about it. And these people can hold grudges for a looooong time. Most of their fueds go back over a thousand years. While they don’t have much education, they can quote who killed whom in their fueds for hours.

      • William Barry

        Long before Mohammed and the Koran entered their lives, the Arabs were very much a militant culture.

        Back then, loyalty to one’s clan or tribe was considered an absolute which trumped all other loyalties. The slightest injury dealt to any one clan or tribal member would demand violent retaliation, and these blood feuds would go on for centuries at a time. The obsession with vengeance would be passed from generation to generation, and with every new act of retribution the violence would escalate.

        Islam created nothing new; it merely changed the focus of the loyalty factor (from tribe/clan to Allah) and honed the vengeance factor (vengeance at any cost).

  • BrotherPatriot

    I still think we need to just back off the world stage until we sort out our own problems here in America. It is obvious that we have many problems to deal with…Obummer, Arizona & Immigration, and a infested government of Bilderberg lapdogs to name a few of the problems.

    Remember, we have a Republic…not a Democracy as they have brainwashed the common American into believing. A return to grass root thinking is desperately needed for the future of America or we may lose the American dream that most of us believe in. When a president says that the Constitution is just a piece of paper…that’s a symptom of the greater problem in which I speak of. When they use a controlled demolition attack on 9/11 and then cover it up without proper investigation, that’s TREASON people and everyone connected to it removed from office (trust me, that will be ALOT of politions). These people MURDERED everyone in those towers and the first responders. We have a duty to those lives lost to investigate and to bring forth the irrefutable evidence that reveals the truth yet, the US government is barring this petition. It’s time to clean house and start over with carefully selected representatives that have no connections to the New World Order degenerates.

    So to summarize, we shouldn’t be out in the world furthering these Elites goals…we should be home cleaning house.

    • DaveH

      I agree. We are campaigning around the world for the freedom of others, while at the same time losing ours. Ridiculous!

    • 45caliber

      I agree about trying to get our stuff together before we try to help others.

      But you are wrong about a controlled demo on 9/11. The buildings came down due to the plane crashes. As an engineer, I’ve seen the data on it. The fuel on the planes created enough heat to weaken steel. In fact steel starts weakening at 600 F and fails at about 1400 F. The fires there were above 2000F. When the columns failed, the weight of the top floors allowed them to drop straight down. The shock of that weight falling even ten feet is more than enough to cause the columns below to buckle. It would drop straight down.

      The really sad problem is that with knowledge and materials we now have there is NOTHING that can be done in future designs to stop the same thing from occuring again.

      • Bob

        If that’s what you learned in college your professor should be committed. Steel doesn’t start to melt until almost 3.000 degrees. Jet fuel only burns up to 1,500 degrees.

      • JC

        I read that as well.

      • independant thinker

        There is a big difference in failing and melting. If I take a 6 foot steel bar hold it horizontal and heat it at the midpoint with a torch it will bend under its own weight before it starts to melt.

      • DaveH

        This is great, a decent discussion without all the name-calling. Keep it up guys and gals.

      • 45caliber

        Steel melts at 2600 or so degrees. But it YIELDS starting at 600 F. And its strength goes down quickly. I design pressure vessels. We HAVE to know when steel chages strength to prevent a tank from getting too much pressure and exploding. At 1800 F there is absolutely no strength at all. This is something I do for a living. We don’t want to kill people.

      • JC

        Curious 45…why then did the building “pancake” instead of falling over…and how did chunks of concrete the size of a football end up in New Jersey? I’m also curious about the molten steel pouring out of the building as much as 10 floors below the area on fire just before it collapsed.
        I’ve never been able to resolve whether or not I believe the “official” story. There are a whole lot of anomalies to it.

      • Al Sieber

        SC, you mean like the “Warren Comission Report”?

      • 45caliber

        Further jet fuel burns at a lower temp, yes. But other things don’t. The temp was decided upon several things including the color of the flame. It was calculated out at MIT if that makes you feel better.

      • Bob

        90% of the fuel burned on impact.

      • kate8

        45, You should examine all the evidence from the other side also. It’s pretty convincing.

        Like the “spontaneous” explosions that happened in other buildings and places. The investigations by people more impartial than those published by the Congressional committee include a lot of things that the Congressional report omitted (!!)

        Never trust the official reports and conclusions.

      • DaveH

        Whether true or not, I do think Government is capable of such manipulation. They steal from us with impugnity, and they kill without trials. Anything is possible with Government.

      • 45caliber

        kate:
        It doesn’t matter what else blew up. The results of the tower would have been exactly the same.

      • Al Sieber

        Most of the jet fuel dissipated and vaporized on impact, jet fuel burns at around 1200 degrees under controlled situations(i.e. in a jet engine), no way was there enough heat to do the job. why was there high amounts of “Thermite” in the metal assays? why did building #7 come down, and it wasn’t even hit? it defies all laws of physics. check out “Loose Change: Final Cut”.

      • dan az

        45
        I saw a clip of a congressional hearing that had this engineer had sample of the metal that was found at all of the four corners that after a week was still in hot liquid form that was called ferite which is not any part of the buildings structure or the planes they also found some across the street at the other building that fell.He brought them samples and they just laughed at him. He lost his job as a profesor and it was covered up.

      • Bob

        Since the WTC opened in 1971 it had been open 24 hours a day 7 days a week. Why was it closed the weekend before 911?

      • dan az

        thats a good question!

  • patrick

    The problems here in Minnesota are caused by the the stupid citizens mostly liberal deomcrats, that vote in people like Keith Ellison, Al Fanken, Amy Klobachar, Archie Rubeck, and so on. Minnesota has the highest benefits for welfare and even pay for lazy people from Chicago and Gary, IN to come here to NOT work and collect huge welfare checks, free food, free housing, free transportation, free medical etc. Now Minnesota is promoting Somalies and Muslims to come here to get all these free benefits. And a liberal democrat just won the election for the democrat party for govenor, with his retoric of raising taxes. Why? to pay for for all these Gov’t intitlement programs. No wonder this country is bankrupt… thanks Obammy and your crew of crooks!

    • Bob

      What have you done about it?

      • DaveH

        Not remained silent?

    • kate8

      patrick, as I remember it, they had to count the votes over and over to get Al Franken to win. They had to disqualify enough R votes, and “find” enough D votes, for him to finally be declared the winner by a court.

    • alpha-lemming

      Where’s Jesse when you really need him!!

  • Jim

    These people run off at the mouth and then when danger really comes at them they run off with their feet!
    Remember Saddam bragging about the Mother Of All Wars! Yeah, right!
    How about Palestine when Israel finally got tired of their shit and started going in. Palestine was hollering that the Jews would be marching to their death. That Palestine would be the graveyards of the Jews!
    These people have tell lies that are as big as their lips and noses. They are not to be trusted.
    They hate the Jews so much. If they stopped to think about it they would find that they were at one time all in the same family. Switch the clothing and you can’t tell the difference.
    Get a couple of thousand of those big planes that spray forest fires, fill them with pigs blood and drop it over all of the Muslim countries!

    • DaveH

      Poor Pigs.

      • Claire

        DaveH– I agree.

    • Al Sieber

      At least it isn’t chickens.

    • dan az

      I think that it should be sleeping bags made of pig skin and stamped made in the USA

  • patrick

    i think we all want the best 4th of July fireworks show ever! most fireworks displays around this country are so boring, i’d love to see some country drop the BIG one on the middle east, it’s time all you dummy’s wake up to what this religious war is really all about? The muslims teach their babies that America and christians have to be destroyed, they hate us, don’t be fooled. This war started when GOD created man and shortly thereafter 2 brothers have a conflict. That conflict continues today. Just look at Minnesota and Minneapolis in particlular, they been promoting and bringing in all the Somalies and muslims, and read the news, see how many radical terrorists have been found and arrested in Minneapolis? Way too many thanks to the Liberal Democrats that run and control Minnesota.

    • Bob

      mINNESOTA DOESN’T BRING IN IMMIGRANTS THE FEDS DO.

      • 45caliber

        Bob: You left your cap button on.

        You are sort of right. The Feds do bring in immigrants. But they do it primarily based on family. So the ones who settled in Minniapolis are the ones requesting it and the Feds bring them in. At best, you are both right.

  • jopa

    mellow; We already helped Iran with leadership change in the past by helping the former Shah to take over.You will find that led to the hostage crisis.Most Iranian citizens are pro-American but they do have some whacko religious leaders.There change will probably come from within through revolution eventually.Our big problem is Israel being like a bad kid in a hostile environment.As long as we have to babysit Israel and their whacko leaders there will be no peace,

    • JeffH

      As long as there are wackos that believe the holocaust wasn’t complete there will be no peace either.

      • 45caliber

        I agree with you.

      • http://naver Samurai

        I do too. Keep up the good fight fellow patriot! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

    • 45caliber

      I think you are compressing time a little. We helped the Shah in – and then helped him out again. Once the new people came in (Komeni – can’t spell it right) they took the embassy there hostage – which is actually an act of war. Carter decided to send in the Marines, which broke down in the desert because they used Army Mule helicopters without sand shields rather than the Huey with them. Reagon got them freed after he took over.

      Actually the Shah was the better ruler. He tried to educate his people and sent many (including one that dated my cousin) to the US for a college education. They all were against him. When he left power, the Saudi king said that his biggest mistake was trying to educate the people. After the new regime came in, the first thing they did was recall all the students. Then they put them on the front lines in their war with Iraq. Most if not all were killed.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        45caliber,
        I was a crewchief and door gunner. The Huey was battle tested in all types of terrain and conditions even Alaska in winter! those mules were a piece of caca!!!

    • 45caliber

      jopa:
      You are apprently a lot younger than I am. We don’t babysit Israel because we don’t NEED to do it. When the 6 Day War happened I almost fell over laughing. Israel was attacked on all sides – and they won without our help.

      And don’t believe we give them weapons now. Their stuff is a lot better than what we use. Why should they want to use our stuff when it isn’t as good? The only REAL support we give them is our refusal to agree that they should be wiped out. They get less money from us than Palestine does. Of course we also have a treaty with them that says if they are attacked by too strong a force for them to stop, we will help them. But considering our administration, I doubt that anything would be done.

      What the Muslims really want is for us to admit that all Jews should we wiped off the face of the earth. And what is funnier to me is that all of them are distant cousins.

      • independant thinker

        “And don’t believe we give them weapons now.”

        You are half right we do sell them some weapons which they promptly tear down, evaluate, then rebuild into the much better weapons you refer to.

  • 45caliber

    We need one of our generals to send Iran thanks for providing the holes. It saves us having to dig them – for their boys.

    • http://gunner689 gunner689

      They won’t need them. you can’t bury atoms.

  • Fergus

    Ben: I know that as an American you are not expected to pronounce someone’s name correctly but please spell it correctly al-Qaeda and using the short vowel sound. It would be better to leave Iran to sort out their own problems. Look what happened in Iraq no weapons of mass destruction were over found. However, correct me if I’m wrong.

    • s c

      Let the jury note that you are wrong, and that you now stand corrected. You speak with forked tongue, dude. You imply that because no WMDs were found, none ever existed. WRONG! If you will recall (selective amnesia or not), WMDs were used against the Kurds. Not being able to find WMDs after the fact IN NO WAY proves that they never existed.
      GB made the mistake of ‘waiting’ until it was convenient to find the damned things. Progressive, you have been corrected. As your ‘friends’ say, ‘move on.’

      • kate8

        sc, I doubt we’ll ever hear the truth about WMD, just like everything else.

        Some say some were found, others say no. Either way, GWB gave them enough time to haul them off to somewhere else by slow camel.

        We spend so much arguing about things we can know nothing about, instead of addressing what to do now.

      • 45caliber

        kate and friends:
        They found some stuff such as the poisons Saddam liked to use. I’m not sure if they found any rockets. However they also found that a long line of trucks took rockets to Syria about two weeks before we invaded. But the MSM seldom mentions any of this since it might upset the Democrat rants.

      • DaveH

        What is with all these spelling police? Have I been magically transported to Scripps?

      • libertytrain

        When there is no argument left – argue the spelling – though these spelling police should check their posts before hitting that submit comment button.

      • kate8

        It’s easy to attack things like spelling when you want to try to discredit someone. Marginalize them by making them look unintelligent.

      • http://gunner689 gunner689

        They were moved and hidden while Colin Powell did his 6 month warm up tap dance with the UN. Look for them in the Bekka Valley in Syria and in North Korea; moved there by ship out of Iraq just before our invasion. we did find about 25,000 lbs. but that doesn’t count according to the liberal media.

    • Michael J.

      Fergus,
      As Americans, we reserve the right to pronounce and spell Al-Kida any way we choose. We also reserve the right to repel outside interlopers at will just like we sent the red coats packing at the end of the revolution.
      BTW, if you’d like to see Sadam’s WMD collection, go to Bekaa Valley, Lebanon and bring a shovel because they are buried 700 feet deep.

    • Ricky Roo

      If you had 10 years to move all your weapons of mass destruction before someone came looking for them wouldn’t you move them? Everyone told us that they had them. They could either move them to a different rouge state or bury them in the sand and we would never find them till the right wind exposed them. We know he had the weapons because we gave them to him. He gasses the curds with the one we gave him to gas the Iranians or have you liberal idiot’s forgot that and gone brain dead?
      Just because the news media didn’t report it doesn’t mean we didn’t find or destroy them or were you only talking about Sadams nuclear wants and not about all the other weapons of mass destruction?

    • http://www.personalliberty.com Ben Crystal (Author)

      Fergus:

      Because their alphabet is entirely different from ours, ANY spelling of their name is entirely phonetic in nature, and therefore can’t really be “incorrect.”

      The ACTUAL spelling of their name is: القاعدة‎

      which translates loosely to: Islamofascist nutbag.

      • JC

        LOL :) …good one!

      • dan az

        Know thats good!

    • http://www.personalliberty.com/contact-us/ Personal Liberty Support

      Fergus,
      al-Qaida is the correct spelling according to Associated Press style, which is the style employed on Personal Liberty.
      Personal Liberty Support

      • Al Sieber

        I thought it was el cia da.

      • dan az

        Even better al!

      • http://gunner689 gunner689

        [offensive post removed]

    • slickporsche

      Well sir you have been corrected! We found Saddam Hussein! He was surely a weapon of mass destruction, and personally I do not give a sh–t if there were WMD’s or not. It gave us the opportunity to test our military strategy and our weapons.However, because of politics, we lost too many of our people.

      • kate8

        Yeah, they’ve been testing them so they can determine the best ones to use on us at home.

  • atlas reborn

    since when so we go to war without a declatation of war. oh I forgot veitnam,korea,iraq,and grenada.

    • 45caliber

      We did for Iraq but not the others you mentioned. Good reason too. If war is declared, the President and the generals are in charge. If it isn’t declared, Congress can stay in charge. Now you wouldn’t want to fight a war with a REAL general in charge would you? We might win without making any political points! That would be terrible! After all, war is just a way for one party to make political points over the other party.

      • independant thinker

        “After all, war is just a way for one party to make political points over the other party.”

        45, I have to dissagree im principal but that is sure the way it works out isn’t it.

  • http://www.lostnation.blogspot.com Jerry D

    Excellent article, Ben.

  • EltonJ

    I think there is a better solution than going to war with Iran. Bring our troops home and kick the Mexican military in Arizona.

  • http://yahoo mellow

    i suggest that instead of going to war against iran. let the iran people know that we support them. support them in changing their leaders in power.

    • 45caliber

      If you expect the Iranian people to actually have a regime change, we would need to support them by giving them guns. Want to do that?

      Good intentions don’t work very well when the other guy is willing to shoot you.

      • JeffH

        Afghanistan comes to mind…

      • JC

        That reasoning in reverse is also a good reason to oppose the Kenyan and Czarista Hillary in their (UN) quest to register all of our firearms. Registration is the precursor to confiscation.

      • Angel Wannabe

        45, JeffH, or anyone__ My old man thinks if anyone goes to war with Iran, that it may be Israel?___Any thoughts??

      • http://naver Samurai

        Possible. Very possible. They would be stretching their supply lines a little thin going around Saudi Arabia. If they do happen to be attacked by Iran, I hope we will honor our treaties and word with them. This would mean sending troops, equipment, and supplies over there to fight Iran. I know our troops are stretched thin, supply lines are already stretched thin around the world, and who would fill the ranks, but Israel is worth fighting to protect. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • JeffH

        That would be my guess too. I would expect that Israel would be pretty precise with any attack and take out Moghadam and Ahmadinejad at the same time. We can only hope that doesn’t happen though.

    • slickporsche

      Now there is a very liberal idea. Akin to trying to talk them to death like Jimmy Carter. hahahahahahaha

  • Lorena

    I don’t see a button where I can share this on my facebook page. I know I can put a link, but more people read it when I post the article.

    • http://www.personalliberty.com Ben Crystal (Author)

      Lorena:

      Simply copy and paste the link on your page, or on friends’ pages.

    • http://www.personalliberty.com Ben Crystal (Author)

      Lorena (and interested parties):

      There is a Facebook group page dedicated to “Outside the Asylum.” Be advised, however: there are some very liberal members.

      http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=142925815732257

      Ben

      • libertytrain

        Mr. Crystal – do you have a Twitter page as well that you would want us folks to join?

      • http://personallibertydigest robert williams

        Ben Christle tell them to Read the Bible and what it say abought Liberals look at Isaiah 32:ver,s 5-6 7-and-8.prov 11:ver 24 throu 27 2 Coren 9:13 throu 15 James 1: ver 5-6 and 7 deutoron 15: ver 13 and 14.

  • winperk

    Iran will be nuked if Israel don’t like the intense retoric spewed by Amadiajabbed The Lunatic. He talks too much about wiping Israel off the face of the map. When Israel believes they can. It will all be over in the flash of blinding mushroom cloud! Barack Hussein Obama II
    won’t know what to do about it, but the despots running the UN will.
    Israel will most likely strike the UN and other unfriendlys at the same time. Don’t worry, The opposition will be over quickly.

    • Al Sieber

      winperk, why would Israel strike the UN?

      • s c

        Al, the UN should be moved to a place where ‘like-minded people’ can have all the time they need to theorize and solve the world’s problems on paper. The south pole would be a great location. Another planet would be even better, but science isn’t yet advanced enough. With a little luck, they’ll take the ACLU with them.

      • JeffH

        Greece perhaps for he UN, or maybe the Baron Von Rothchild’s lavish estate.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        JeffH,
        Only if they take it by imminent domain!!! He believes in it so much, let him experience it!!! I’d love it!!

  • Den

    Like Alfred the butler said; “There are people who don’t want money, they just want to see everything burn”. Even our terrorist country called Saudi Arabia who gave us 911 want them stopped, but only if someone else pays for it. (The enemy of our enemy is still our enemy)

  • Cribster

    The mass graves are a childish stunt. If such an impossibility were to happen do you think they would take the time to bury thousands of individuals or dig a huge pit and shove them in with a bulldozer.

    • http://www.lostnation.blogspot.com Jerry D

      Maybe the graves are really for their own soldiers. But, in all sincerity, I hope it does not come down to all out war. It may become necessary, but so many innocents die in a war started by politicians. However, I don’t relish the thought of a mad man like Ahmadinejad or his radical handlers having their hands on a deliverable nuke.

  • FreedomFighter

    My questions:

    When they are worth the bullet, who will be backing them up, China, Russia, North Korea?

    Will we create a world war, global nuke fest, by not putting a bullet in this rabid dog of a country?

    Hypothetically, if we nuked them, take over the country and make it the 51st state or just give it to Iraq, kick all current residents out or exterminate them (last resort), take the oil and turn Iran into a hot vacation spot. Then post signs on the borders:

    Islamic Terrorist will not be tolerated.

    Laus Deo
    Semper Fi

    The world would be a better place

    • 45caliber

      I think the best thing to do would be to make a large glass parking lot out of Iran. We certainly don’t want to take it over and I doubt if many Americans would be interested in moving there. And we DEFINATELY shouldn’t try to rebuild it to show the world how nice we are.

      • JeffH

        If the dogs become rabid, by all means burn them into the sand.

      • Bob

        Go get em Rambo.

      • slickporsche

        Actually it is a really beautiful country and I think it should be ours. Lets go get it and fill it with Christians. Now that would make the Muslims take notice. Then we need to start another crusade to convert as many Muslims as possible. WE could start with that young women whose husband sliced off her nose.

      • 45caliber

        You REALLY want to start a war, don’t you? If they attack and we make glass and then stay home, no one will care. But colonize? Every country on Earth would go bezerk!

      • 45caliber

        slick, admit it. You are really a government employee trying to get someone stirred up enough to arrest, aren’t you?

      • kate8

        45, the same thing had just crossed my mind…

      • independant thinker

        I have had the same thoughts myself when reading some of his posts.

      • dan az

        you know thats probably very true besides who drives a porche anyway?

      • Angel Wannabe

        Hey Knock yourself out Slickporsche__send us a post card__what happened to that woman’s ears and nose is nothing short of a crime, go ahead over there to the middle east, and try to change Iran and what has been for thousands of years, and you’ll end up in one of the new graves they just dug, in very short order___Correct me if I’m wrong, anyone,__ but most of us on this site are for looking PEACEFUL ANSWERS, and will continue to do so.

      • dan az

        Hey angel
        We dont want war but if its coming to us we will defeat them in any manner,this is the diffrents between the ones that run and hide and the ones that stand an fight.we all are up in age and are not affraid to die for what we believe in thats what makes this country worth fighting for not hiding and giving in to the nut jobs that are trying to inslave us.I would rather die standing an fighting then to die on my knees. Besides they hurt

      • http://personallibertydigest robert williams

        Hay Angle Wanaby Just to let you Know whin Jesus comes Again he will Change Everything His Way once and for all in his time not in my time Frame and Surrley Not Yours He Has a Plan the Word Chris tian as you Reconise it Christian Came From the Name Christ By the True Followers Of Jesus Christ i challange all you people on this Site to Read the Following Chapters and Verses,s from this in the order i List Them.you May see the Plan Of Jesus ISIAH CHP 34: ver 16 and 17 Math 24:29 through 31 rev:7: 9 through 14 rev:20: 4 through 10 Finally 1 Corinthians Chp 15: ver.s 22 through 28.GET THE PITCHER.NOT our Call But God,the Fathers Call.

  • s c

    The heart of this penny opera deals with what Iran’s version of militant progressives will or won’t do to usher in their “Messiah.” It’s almost amusing to think that critics of America’s ‘right-wing Christians’ look at them the same way most of America looks at Iran’s ‘progressive Muslims.’
    There is no way you can communicate with a mentality that yearns to start Armageddon (in the name of “God”). I suspect Iran’s ‘leader’ is a space cadet bully who wasn’t knocked on his arse enough times to develop some common sense.
    Some people look up to that mentality. Most people see it as a symptom of a mental disease that needs immedate treatmnt.

    • JeffH

      Ahmadinejad a complete idiot, a major pain in the arse and a bully like Saddam was. He’s even got Saddam’s mentality which means he thinks he can walk on water…you can see what that got Hussein…a date with a tight rope. Don’t misunderstand me, I realize he and his hanchos are dangerous. With all of O’mans apologies and bowing, why wouldn’t he feel bold.
      Remember, he’s the one that bragged to the world that: ” “They say it is not possible to have a world without the United States and Zionism. But you know that this is a possible goal and slogan.”

      As for Iranian General Kan’ani Moghadam announcing that his nation’s military has begun digging mass graves for our troops. Well pal, it ain’t gonna happen. It will be like UFC champ Brock Lessner putting the beatdown on Frank Mier. He might want to strengthen their “burn units” ’cause if push comes to shove, burn ‘em and send them to hell!

      Ben Crystal, I particularly liked this little snippit of, “And with Barack Obama’s Presidency flailing like Keith Olbermann searching for talent”…as accurate a statment as can be.

      • think about

        We removed the biggest protection from Iran wild actions in Saddam, he would have never tolerated Iran doing much of their actions. Saddam was not a good person, USA CIA backed him getting into power but he was the cork on Iran.

      • JeffH

        Manipulating countries and their rulers and their people always sounds like a good idea at the time but it always comes back to bite them in the arse.

      • JC

        The CIA has a term for the repurcussions of manipulating foreign nations…it’s called “blowback”.

      • kate8

        Trying to manipulate other people and situations, on any level, always seems to backfire.

    • http://www.lostnation.blogspot.com Jerry D

      You’d have to include me among the right wing Christians. However, while we believe that there will be a huge war (rather, a series of wars) before the coming of Christ, we DO NOT propose starting those wars or supporting such wars. We simply believe they will happen as prophesied. The vast majority of us are simply American citizens who believe in the Great Republic that was America and maybe will be again. (But, I doubt it).

      • 45caliber

        Not in our lifetimes.

      • slickporsche

        What won’t happen in our life time???????????? That is the stupidest,and most popular phrase of our time. Used by those that are scared sh–tless, and would like to not deal with the reality of it all. I think we may be in that time pal! It is very near. Everything that is happening now, and especially that Spook in the White House, is an indication that something really big may be about to happen, In your lifetime!!!

      • 45caliber

        Let me correct that. I don’t expect it to happen in MY lifetime. I’m probably a lot older than you.

        However if we do have a revolution as you seem to think, I doubt very seriously if we can get back to what we had even if we won quickly before I pasted away from old age. Those trying to create the ‘new’ government would spend most of the time arguing about the meaning of every word in the existing Constitution. You could almost have another war right there.

      • Bob

        It wouldn’t take much to straighten out the country. Hang all the traitors, shut down all the international banks to get the peoples money back and put heavy tariffs on the US companies that produce overseas. The rest will take care of itself.

      • Richard Pawley

        I believe 45 Caliber was saying that we will not return to normal or restore the US in our lifetimes. If he was referring to the debt. He was surely right. Congress has been squandering money right and left. 70 members of Congress are members the Democratic Socialists of America, which is affiliated with Socialist International in London. Congress seems ready willing and able to crash our system, spending first all the money they could borrow, and now when foreigners have smartened up, and have stopped buying them (except with Enron-accounting – I mean how can England buy our bonds (no one else will) when they are broke themselves?). Taxes must be cut 10% and government by 20% or the dollar is toast. The Republicans may not have the guts to do that and Progressives (Socialist Democrats) are the ones pushing it so only the Tea Party is left. Whether we can elect enough of them in 12 weeks to slow down this train wreck as it rushes towards the cliff I don’t know. I certain hope so. Even so, mark my words, food and fuel and all imported goods are going to triple when the deflation ends. That is a given, because of the hundreds of Billions of dollars that Congress has already squandered, but if we don’t replace most of Congress, if will eventually be much, much worse. Of course an all out war will put everyone back to work but if Iran gets the big one they will not be like North Korea and just “threaten” to use it. Additionally, although I am not a follower of Dr. Nostradamus from the late middle ages I do note that he said that WWWIII would begin around they year 2000 and would be fought between the (fanatic) Muslims and the West, and that it would last 27 years! If he was correct in what he foresaw we are not even half way into this war. Will the draft be re-instated? Undoubtedly, because if “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” is rescinded then many will leave the service and that will be one more rallying point for the militant Muslims whose aim has always been world domination for their ‘god’. All is not hopeless because the total avarice of most in Congress and their disdain for the common man has reached far and wide. The say the care but the behavior of Congress as they destroy our dollar proves other wise. We can, if we are offered true choices, turn this ship around before it sinks on the shoals ahead. It is still going to crash, but if we can turn it, most will survive. If not than the 15,000+ who are fleeing this country for elsewhere will increase dramatically. In England (though I can’t see why anyone would want to move to a small island that can’t grow all it’s own food) a person wanting to renounce his American citizenship to join the Tories can’t even get an appointment there to see the proper authorities until 2011. The Progressives in Congress want everyone to be reduced to an equal level, all poor. The unconstitutional laws and taxes they are piling on us to give to the unions will bankrupt all the states (eventually). Believers need to pray for the tens of thousands who will be meeting in Washington, D.C. on Martin Luther’s Birthday (August 28) when freedom loving people of all races, creeds, and colors, will gather to pray for a return to HONOR, and INTEGRITY, and FAITH and HOPE. This historic meaning will be the last ever allowed (Congress wants us to shut our mouth and go home and take it like a man). I say we kick them all out. There are a few good Democrats who are not Marxists or Socialists, and a handful of decent Republicans, but many are sold out to the 36,000 well paid lobbyists who live in our District of Corruption. TIME TO CLEAN HOUSE LADIES AND GENTLEMEN! Beware of politicians bearing gifts or threatening war. They will do anything to retain their power in Washington. Believe nothing the media (CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN and others) say. They are worst than useless and are merely government house organs repeating what they are told. Keep away from those who blame Bush, or Clinton, or even Obama. IT IS CONGRESS IN EVERY CASE! Vote them out in November or you WILL LIVE TO REGRET IT. The choice is yours!

      • 45caliber

        Talking of borrowing:

        Do you know where at least HALF the money the government is having to borrow is coming from?

        The US GOVERNMENT!

        Yes, indeedy. They are issuing treasury notes to themselves to get the cash they need that they just printed. They print the money and then borrow it from themselves.

        Talk about a way to inflate money!!!

      • kate8

        TIME, Congress has become entirely irrelevant. They have ceded all their power to the executive and judicial branches who, in turn, answer to a globalist elite cabal. The truth is, we no longer have a government. We are under the domination of a group of genocidal, psychopathic power mongers.

        These people, who are members of several cult branches of Luciferians, honestly believe that the game is up in 2012 (or thereabouts), and have used multiple billions of our tax money to build themselves underground, environmentally controlled cities in order to survive the coming cataclysm (whatever that may be). They are told that if they go along with the agenda, they and their families will have a place in the bunkers. If not, then they are left to perish with the “little people”.

        If need be, they are willing to create world war to insure the destruction of life on Earth.

        These are the people with whom we are dealing.

        For those who missed the links, check out the Denver Airport.

      • kate8

        Sorry. That was in answer to Richard Pawley, not TIME.

      • http://personallibertydigest robert williams

        slick porche or whoever you are learn to understand what you read befor you start sounding like your Buddy al siber that is only a figur of speech what abought the people who were shout by that Muslem Fanatich that Killed his 2 Daughters .they was here during our lifetime they were Younger then you or Me therefor it did not Happin in there Lifetime NOW DID IT BoneHead.

      • http://gunner689 gunner689

        Richard P. If those Congressmen and women weren’t Socialists why are they Democrats? These aren’t the usual brain-numbed Union slobs; these people know exactly what they represent. Hang them all as traitors.

      • kate8

        Jerry, I think we should be careful not to allow ourselves to sit back in resignation because of prophecy. What a dream scenario for the power mongers: good people do nothing.

        Prophecy is accurate because history continues to repeat, over and over. It is the result of staying on the course we’re on. Studies of Bible codes have discovered the words “will you change it” written across certain prophetic passages. This indicates that, if we start to get a clue, perhaps we can alter the course.

        Prophecy tends to be self-fulfilling. The elites know this. That is why they are continually telling us we’re defeated, keep us in fear, sick, tired, stressed and discouraged.

        Don’t believe it. We need to start wising up and realize that we have more power than we think we do. We can’t just let them win without a fight. Failure is simply not an option.

      • Angel Wannabe

        kate8__It’s NEVER OVER, TIL IT”S OVER!___I for one am NOT ready to throw in the towel!

      • JeffH

        I’ll second that!

      • http://naver Samurai

        Me too, fellow patriot!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Angel, count my life of that!!!

      • DaveH

        Good comment, Kate.

      • slickporsche

        Ok Kate! Grab your rifle and ammunition belt and tell me where to meet you and I will bring many others. Men, women, children, and the old among us.

      • 45caliber

        Let me know which way you and your friends decide to go so I can be somewhere else when Oblama drops a nuke on you. I don’t mind the revolt; it’s the sudden heat that bothers me. And, please, wait until after the election! I don’t want Oblama to declare martial law and a delay in election so he can remain in power.

        And if you don’t believe he would drop the nuke, think again. He’d do it if you and a dozen friends were in the middle of New York City if he thought you were a threat.

      • kate8

        45, I wholly agree with you! I’m quite sure Osurper would go to any lengths to put down a revolt.

        Yikes. I didn’t say ANYTHING about an armed revolt. Anyone with that idea got it on their own. Such a thing would be suicide, at this point.

        I know that there are many who understand what I meant. There is a time for every purpose under heaven.

      • dan az

        Hey kate 8
        I agree with what your saying.I think if all of the so called people that want to hide in there underground shelters should be told that if you dont fight then you can be concreated in with no way out that would at least make them think before they run an hide. I did see that clip on colarodo air port in the middle of no where seems to me the concreate trucks will still be there when the time comes.

      • http://www.SaveLakeAtitlan.org Duende

        This very morning I was thinking how the elite have attempted to take away hope. When the human has no hope of a peaceful and just planet they can not envision one. If we can’t envision it, we will not create it. I was also thinking that we were created in god’s image. God was a creator and so are we. But when hope is taken away and the only way we can envision change is through violence then the elite have won.. they have kept us from our true power… to create though the love and peace of god. The very thing that Jesus was trying to teach us but we got all wrong.

      • http://personallibertydigest robert williams

        jerry d this is robert if you remember the Bible also states there is a time for Everything such as there is a time for peace there is a time for war there is a time to cry a time to laife a time tyo sing and a time to Dance Most Everybody that Saw the Movie FOOT LOOSE REmembers whin those Passages were Brought up in Church by the Star Actor.think abought it the Lord once told his Followers to Sleep with there Swords By there sides and if they Dont have one to go out and sell there Cloke and Buy one In Otherwards Be Ready.for the Enamey.Today he wold more then lickley tell Us to Sleep with our Guns Be Ready

    • 45caliber

      s c:
      And that “immediate treatment” should be a bullet to the brain.

    • Angel Wannabe

      sc, History does repeat itself over and over, and over again,_ Phillip of Spain declared Holy War against England, because of greed, money and power, he lost the war, Spain was bankrupt and Phillip died within ten years_ Queen Elizabeth & England went on to prosperity and peace.

      • 45caliber

        But, Anne! You aren’t supposed to read history and see what went wrong last time! Remember, all the politicians say: “Look to the future!” That way you can’t tell if they are doing the same thing that failed last time.

      • Angel Wannabe

        45_ ain’t that the damned truth!!!

      • 45caliber

        Sorry, I meant ANGEL.

      • kate8

        So, did you all hear where there have been spending cuts in education?

        It seems that our schools can no longer afford to include classes in US history, civics, the Constitution on any level.

        Isn’t that what Queen Michelle said? “We have to change our history, our traditions…

      • JeffH

        kate8, ahhh what an ugly web they weave…just disgusting and of course you’ve heard who’s advising for these cuts…the infamous Soros group, the Center for American Progress, you know it…John Podesta, socialists one and all. Where’s McCarthey at again?

      • Angel Wannabe

        kate8, Just saw it on Beck at 5.__I Thank Christ Americans are waking up__Spreadin’ the word, Is truley our only chance.

      • http://personallibertydigest robert williams

        Machell Has no busniss interfearing in Education the Fact is she Always had a hard time Even tacking a test Much Less Passing it Without Cheating and she Cant Stand a Fith Grader Being Smarter then Her so Now Rather then Teaching History or Government She wold rather teach them that 2 Mamas or Two Daddys Can Conceave A Babby and that it Wold Never Be Possable for One Man and One Women To Conseave a Child. What a bunch of Sickos we have Not Running the whole Country But Delibertly Destroying this Country First then The Whole World all i can Say Is Please Lord Come Quickly.Amen and Amen.

      • JC

        It’s up to American parents to teach American values,
        and teach them well.

      • Claire

        JC–Good comment. Good for you!

    • William Barry

      And some people know there’s exactly one way… and ONLY one way… to deal with a mad dog, whether it walks on four legs or two.

      Put it down so far that it no longer needs to worry about coming back up again… EVER.

  • dan az

    The problem is that irans people are fighting with this mental midget to over through his want to be government. There lies the problem if we let isreal take the first strike all hell is going to break loose.With something like 10 thousand missiles pointing at them at least they stand to loose all of there cities,so we go in and take out all of there cities not a very good deal for the people that want him out to.So why not send in the black ops and take this little hitler out for them?And save us alot of money and grief.

    • Cribster

      Indeed, what ever happened to a good old-fashioned assassination? I know of a couple that would bring relief to hundreds of millions.

      • 45caliber

        One reason that they don’t want assassination is that there are a lot of fundamentalists who might decide to assassinate our own leaders such as Oblama and Congress.

        Actually that might be a win-win situation for all of us …

      • DaveH

        Good point, 45.

      • independant thinker

        Hear Hear

      • dan az

        45
        I just love it when a plan comes together!

    • Big Ugly

      PLEASE!
      Learn the proper use of American English.

      • JeffH

        Don’t be so ugly!

      • DaveH

        I second that.

      • JC

        “American” English is an oxymoron.

      • http://personallibertydigest robert williams

        big ugly you yourself make no sence I say the whole Group of Obamanation muswt Ither Be Deported to Iran since they love The TYPE of scum that Think Beheading Humans with a 8 to 10 inch Hunting Knife is Grate Fun Or Maby they wold rather we the people First Behead them then DEport them then they can think there in there Paradice.Id rather Deport them to Iran and let them live in FEar there and Suffer the way they are trying to treat the American Citizens.

    • Al Sieber

      dan az, we’ve been screwing with Iran since the early 1950′s, with the help of England. the Iranian people are Persian not Arabs, and they like us and hate their Govt.. the black ops idea sounds good. if the SHTF we’ll probably see gas at $10 a gal. I can’t help but think someone is trying to full fill biblical prophecy. maybe we’ll know within the next 30 days.

      • Al Sieber

        Ahmadinejad is just a puppet, it’s the religious fanatics that call the shots.

      • Bob

        You are right about that. This author is just another Zionist puppet beating the drums for war. No different than the Neocons in Washington.

      • 45caliber

        People like you make me wonder. Would you prefer Jews as neighbors or some Muslim fanatic who thinks all others should die? Personally, I’ve found the Jews friendly.

      • Bob

        I don’t want either as my neighbors.

      • 45caliber

        Then you are the racist.

      • http://naver Samurai

        If they don’t mind me flying the flag everyday, then they can be my neighbors. I don’t care about race, religion, or gender.

      • Al Sieber

        45caliber, I don’t know what you’re talking about, my father was Jewish, and my mother was Catholic so whats the problem? it was a little confusing for awhile. I have no problem with most people.

      • dan az

        Al
        I think that was meant for Bob.

      • http://personallibertydigest robert williams

        al siber your full of Crap you Have been Brainwashed like Most People Since the Mid Sixities.

      • Al Sieber

        No Robert, I was brainwashed when I enlisted in the army in the “60s”. I’m very much awake to the NWO, you sound like Obama can do no wrong.

      • Al Sieber

        r williams, you also don’t know anything about history, except what you see on CNN.

      • http://personallibertydigest robert williams

        al siber you are stuped i said obama and his group are all Going to hell one way or another By the Way Dip Stick so will you if you Worship Idles Such as Statues like st Mark or St Luke Or St Mathue or Evan a Statue of any type yes Even one of as Cathlics say St Mary she cant Forgive your sins only Jesus Christ Can He is the Only Meadeaater Between man and God the Father there is NO Other LIke it or Not.

      • http://www.lostnation.blogspot.com Jerry D

        Good point.

      • dan az

        Hey Al
        I think it may be sooner but who knows, I would like to know the ties between him and Russia and the loonie tunes in Korea.I know that he got the missiles from Russia but he was also dealing with Korea.I cant see Isreal taking the chance of loosing everything to the little hitler just to take out some nuke plants.I really think their much smarter than that.like I always say take the head off the snake and the rest will follow.

    • 45caliber

      How can you have a crisis if you simply nip any war in the bud?

      Besides, as one of our Congressmen said about Desert Storm, it just isn’t fair if our soldiers have only a couple of hundred casualties when they have over a hundred thousand.

      • Bob

        I have to laugh at all you people. Our gov’t is stealing all of our wealth, letting millions of Mexicans in our country, taking away all our rights, sending our jobs overseas and throwing people out of their homes. And you worry about a couple of people 8,000 miles away. They don’t care about us.

      • JC

        War as a diversion from domestic events is an age old tactic.
        Lop the head off the Iranian regime, leave the people alone and let’s get on with cleaning up our own back yard.

      • 45caliber

        I agree.

      • dan az

        Im for that!

      • http://naver Samurai

        It worked when Clinton wanted to divert attention away from he and Monica.

      • independant thinker

        Bob…………You have obviously been very very selective in your reading on these discussion groups. Immigration both legal and illegal has been discussed in depth as has the economy, the housing situation, Etc..

      • http://personallibertydigest robert williams

        Bob you must be a bit off abought 6 inches above your Pie Hole if you think Obama is going to leave them that Far away he haqs already Sent the Jahitest and Muslem palistaian Hames 20 Billion to transport them to the U S and set them up in Places like New York City and Nashville Tenn as well as Memp Ten Why Cant you see what there plans are with the Moses,s there bulding and How maney more will be bult throughout the U.S.A. Fine let them Co0me you Ignerent Jerks then see how Much you love the Damd Ratical Muslems whin you Find one of your Familey Members Being Beheaded By these Sick Bastards Maby youd like to see your Brother your Sister or your Parents Beheaded then See How you Trust the Sick Jerks.I am a Veat nam Vet and Ihave Sean shit like that you Dam Fools.Go ahead Follow this Sick Indonesion Raised Muslem Dictator .

      • dan az

        What are you reading we are on the side that dosent want war but if it comes se are the vietnam vets that will take up the fight here at home so what is it that your ranting about?

      • Al Sieber

        Bob, I know exactly what is going on, our enemy is here , not 8000 miles away. Iran isn’t a threat to us.

      • http://naver Samurai

        Here! Here! 100% agree, but when do we get him out of office and start lessening the grip he cuurently holds on this country?

      • dan az

        Samuri
        Thats why were all here trying to come to a conclusion.If we had the answer to that we wouldn’t be here.Treason is a good one but pelosi seems to be a little pre occupied following his commands to destroy this country I would guess rug burns on the knees also keeps her busy.
        We need to get her and all of the congress out of office come November so we can start the impeachment proceedings now.

      • http://naver Samurai

        Dan az, I know this is off subject, but Virginia and Missouri voters have won some victories against Osamacare. Maybe this could be the start of something bigger?

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Al Sieber,
        I don’t know about that. We had little to worry about when we were in the cold war with the USSR as they were just as afraid of us as we were of them. Iran is looking to get their 21 virgins and and believe they will be rewarded for dying in a nuke war. They get a delivery system and we are in for a world of hurt! north Korea can reach Alaska NOW, give them a couple of years and they could be at the point to be able to hit anywhere in the world. Reacting to a nuclear attack is something I don’t want to experience or have my kids experience! If N. Korea gets the delivery system, do you think they would hesitate to sell it to Iran??? I don’t!

      • http://gunner689 gunner689

        Joe H: North Korea probably has the guidence system now. Remember when our other Traitor President, Clinton, sold all that telemetry and missle guidence systems and equipment to Red China? He owed them a big favor for helping him get elected and they got paid off.

    • slickporsche

      That would be the smart thing to do, if we had a president. This Spook in the White House is not capable of running a AKC show, let alone an entire country.We are only failing in Afghanistan, because the politicians will not let the military, do what they know how to do best.WIN A WAR!

      If we go into Iran, we need to do it like we are going there to WIN, and kick some serious ass. NO rules, just destroy their ability to defend them selves, and then dictate how it is going to go after we win. They need to be beheaded,with their own sabers.

      • 45caliber

        But if we did that, some general might be famous enough to get elected President like Eisenhower did! And that wouldn’t be fair! After all, those in Congress have put in their time waiting for the chance to run and they don’t like it if someone butts into the head of the line.

        Besides, as HH Humphery said, “It doesn’t make any difference how many are killed as long as Congress gets the credit for ending it.”

      • dan az

        45
        good point.
        who said in congress that it was unfare i must of missed that one!
        I think we should send him or her to the front lines to observe!

      • http://gunner689 gunner689

        I think that the Chocalate Messiah is on their side.

    • Jana

      dan az,
      The only problem is with this administration I am not sure we would go to the defense of Israel. If we did, Obama would have to think about it for about a year before he decides what to do.

      • dan az

        Jana
        thats a very good point. I think He is going to be very occupied at home trying to get marshal law envoked thats why I say we will have our own fight here at the same time with terrorist that crossed the borders are waiting for the go ahead to create havac an distruction all over our cities nation wide.when the blue heads start going door to door to try and take our guns rather than stop the bombing of our cities thats when it starts.As far as isreal goes they are going to take this turd out quitely before they even realize it.they are not dumb.they know the stakes, where only there for show and to intervien if other nations what to sneak in the back door on them.allahoboma is’nt a commander and chief so it up to us to remove him from office as soon as possible,if he goes underground the here comes the cement trucks.

      • taxman

        Obama is a very busy president, he was to lasVegas last month, Texas last week and then to Florida. He says the beaches are great, come join him. He has about 20-30 more vacation spots to hit before the elections. Don’t worry about the costs as Taxes will increase for everyone that works or owns a business. Obama is planning on many more vacations for next year, hope you get to see him when he is in your town. Thanks for your support

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