norm, take that marxist quarters out of your and hit spin cycle. Your credit card xrap is just that, the more layers of puke brained idoits to check paers and dream up excesses to slow down healthcare, the more expensive it gets. Check out how the Great Society inflated medical costs and has never decreased it once. You simple minded marxist democrats are just dumber than a horse road apple.

Ah! the Emergency rooms – where they charge you $35 dollars for a band aid and sometimes make you wait 10 Hours in the waiting room – because they are loaded with illegal immigrant patients, who refuse to pay one red cent.

Why we need everyone insured:

Of those without insurance:

60% reported problems paying medical bills.
27% reported struggling to pay expenses such as food, rent or heat.
Almost half (44%) said that they were forced to use most or all of their savings to pay medical bills.
20% had run up large credit card debts or taken out a home equity loan to pay medical expenses.

We all pay more because we don’t have a rational way for everyone to gain timely access to affordable, effective care:

People without insurance use the most expensive source of care when they need it – the emergency room – which adds unnecessary costs to the health system.
The cost of care for the uninsured is shifted to people with insurance, in the form of higher premiums, co-pays and deductibles.
Through this cost shift, the average person with insurance pays about $100 per month to cover the cost of care for the uninsured.
Employers, faced with those higher premium costs, are facing the difficult decision of either passing on the costs to employees, eliminating coverage for dependents, or eliminating work-based coverage altogether.
The current structure (before the new law) of the US health care system results in higher taxes, lower wages, increased health care costs and, often the inability to get timely access to needed care. We have “universal access” but only through the emergency room, which is both expensive and inefficient.

just to keep the progressives on the right track:

US fires head of agency that oversees oil drilling

Interior Secretary Ken Salazar confirmed to NBC News that the head of Minerals Management Service resigned, despite earlier reports she was fired.
Birnbaum was appointed by President Barack Obama in 2009. According to her bio page at the agency’s website she assumed duties on July 15, 2009:

RicSeag, The oil spill was my point, BP was inspected and has been awarded safety awards and were on board to receive another, why wasn’t the oil feild pipe not inspected. It was the the overly amount of pee brained idoits like you wandering in and out who don’t know s–t what they are looking at but approving what ever paperworked that was dreamed up. I don’t care how many damn degrees from what ever college you have, real experience teach morons like you what in the hell is going on. After the damn muslim marxists quit having photo shoots and went back to playing golf and parting BP took care of the problem. If those s–t brained inspectors were doing their jobs, where were the hard hats and rig safety gear like sreel toes. Oh the average working person forgets socialist democrats and our mulim marxist are, hard headed burrheads, just like the burrrs on the pipe that broke. The agencies have more damn money that is wasted on new chairs and desks, big screen TVs so the dudds can watch pron in comfort. Since all you socialist asses love government created agencies. Who impede businesses and think businesses shouldn’t make a profit. You dream and come up with the most assine theories to create government work. Why the hell don”t you just move to Russia or Venuzula, since all democrats are too damn simple minded to start a businesses unless you can get special rates or loans. You are the most drivel spouting smuck except for your miracile birth baby brother, am lib. Onumnutt sat on his postieror for 80 days.He pissed a million dollars a peice for his commion members to play with them selves and get nothing done, just like you.

RicSeag, regulations are just another way to create government control. When the hired wonkish educated dip s–ts have never done a damned thing in life, except follow a hand book and dream up more solution for imaginary problems. The oil spill proves what a worthless bunch of overeducated dumb asses that are in office and departments that there that waste money and couldn’t solve a problem but sat on their rears. Bet you buy into the global warming phony stats and think it is man made too and think cap and trade is a brillant dream. One thing about all marxist democrats, they are a double walled vessel for putting a lying media rear quick coupler in for a high pressure direct connection to crap. Since there is nothing as far a mental reasoning of facts,the intake will never over whelm the holding capicity of the container. At least with mushrooms they are able to produce something useful which is better than marxist dems, they are alike because mushrooms and dems both like crap and both are spores that like the dark. All socialist democrats show what damn morons they are, companies and businesses are created for profits, if you don’t make a profit, why even create something? Why don’t you dumb asses not just settle for just tofo, shelter , a warm place to defecate and sleep on rugs, and water? Plus, just walk to work with skins tied around your bodies and on your feet.We know why you idoits join a union and vote for the marxist democrat party canidates, democrats have a nano minds. That why they all need some one to bargin for them, tell them where to go and when, what to do, and don’t have any creativity, and beleive what they are told to beleive. Another comparasion, would be a year old child mental capicity with a adult sized body. Actually it is a 4 months old, since they can crawl and make sounds and blow bubbles. Dems only, out their behinds of course their mouths and behinds are dual purpose vents

slickpourche, in the late 70′s when we were fighting our way out of the Simple Peant Carter’screw ups, and to have a job you almost had to pay to be hired. Several of the eleitist council members and the mayor in a city I lived in. Dreamed up and tried to enforce a b–l s–t plan
to force people to abide by their houses being painted a certain color and sidewalks had to be replaced if there was a crack on a corner slab even if had been driven over by a city loader. I and another person started taking pictures and driving around inspecting council’s property and waited for the third approval meeting before confronting them at the meeting. It never passed, and was tried 12 years later, when I returned from another state and bought 320 acres of ag land that was for sale. The county commissioners of the largest city decided to create a commission to check fences and require all owners to store all equipment and vehicles inside sheds. It went on for over 2 years before the created commison members and the sheriff decided to go hassle a ranchers building a shed on his land. He had his gate secured and locked going up on his private property. The road only went to his house and wasn’t a public road, the sheriff cut the lock and open the gater, the party of dogooders drove up and proceeded to tell him he didn’t get permits, he built with out county approvaland kept rattling on. He had his son pass him up a 30-30 to loader bucket. After chambering a round, he told them to vacate his property, they kept blabbing and after touching offa round, he told them to leave, and the sheriff wouldn’t leave and was threating arrest, until the owner stated he had a private road with a locked gate secured by a chain and lock.After another round beside the vehicle about 5 ft. away everyone departed and the power grab by the county ended. Also no charges were ever filed. That is why I will not purchase property with convents or live in states with impedements on
private property. I have bought land where certain people have leased or bought property,that will not let a land owner have access to his track of land. Every square mile has a 66′ foot wide access strip of land for public engress and egress. When political dinks try to stop people from using their personal choice of their freedoms. A little hardball is needed. Same goes for healthcare crap or gun ownership. Ever meet a marxist democrat in office that isn’t trying to take your personal freedoms away, and it will take some guts and you don’t need a leech lawyer to plead you rights. Sometime a few knuckle bumps and black eyes helps drive the points of government over reach can be stopped. People need to stop the airl fairy we can just have tea and talk crap, sooner or later action is required and I hopeUSA citizens will begin to dismantle the dreamed up social engineering failures.

RicSeag this is one of the reasons that mfg’s moved off shore. Unreasonable and elaborate laws that are very difficult to adhere to.I did say unreasonable. There is definitly a need for some of this, but at this point in time, the US is so over regulated, it is pathetic. WE have become so damn arrogant in this country, that this mentality I speak of starts at the bottom, and goes all the way to the top. We go all over the world and tell people, that WE NO WHATS BEST FOR YOU AND YOU WILL CHANGE. Pay attention man,and look around you. Who are you to tell me anything. Really! Like he attorney, that moved between two pig farms in the county and got them shut down!!! What kind of crap is that?? You know its there before you buy the land very cheap, and then you do this.Fking crook. Oh and by the way, I can drive right up to the door of either place to prove it. Before she died, my 89 year old mother said, this is not America anymore, not with all these communists running the place. I have to agree with her.

The condition of your property affects my property value so I have a right to force you to comply with home value standards. This is already a problem in Wisconsin and Minnesota. Some communities in Wisconsin have become so brave and strict they go after 80 year old ladies who only have SS and a little savings. I know of several elderly people that were forced by the city to reside their house (it was not that bad), and use all of their savings. Then they end up losing their home, because they cannot keep up with the other expenses, or cannot eat, so the state takes their house and puts them in a nursing home. A good friend of mine graduated from the UW system, with a degree in Environmental & public health. He then aquired a job in Minnesota and worked for I think about 2years, before he quit. He told me they were requiring him to do things to people, and force them to do things, that were totally unreasonable and sometimes devastating to them financially. I call these ordinances and laws (personal preference) laws. If it does not meet the preference of the people in power you need to bend to their ways. I could go on and tell you things that would cause your blood to boil.I personally have had enough of this freedom grabbing government, and want a real and bloody revolution. That would settle it once and for all.Then I go into inspections one day to ask a question, and all the inspectors had red lettered signs on there desk, that read:TOTAL CONTROL

Norm, Norm, Norm. Do you actually think that “free loaders” will be impacted by Obamacare? No poor,illegals, Amish, Muslims, Christian Scientists or other religion based objection group will be forced to carry the mandated insurance.
This “affects me” mentality is the root cause for most of these creeping Marxist laws and decisions that continue to eat up our individual freedoms. The condition of your property affects my property value so I have a rigt to force you to comply with home value standards. If you get injured not wearing a seat belt, my insurance rates go up so I have the right to make you wear a seat belt, maybe even a fire suit and crash helmet. Your vehicle is too big and uses too much gas, polluting the environment and using up resources which endangers my tin can green vehicle and costs more for depleted resources so I have the right to mandate greater general fuel efficiency standards or lose weight so that you can fit into a smaller vehicle. See how it works, Norm. What about you Nor? Surely there is something that you do that impacts the rest of us. Maybe a little over-weight? Health problems? Drink bottled water and clog up the land fills? Or even worse, your kids or grand kids use those nasty disposable diapers? I know! You breath out that vile carbon dioxide! Bad for our environment. Bad, Norm, Bad!

Virginia Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli, speaking of a case aimed at stopping national health-care reform, declared, “This lawsuit is not about health care. It’s about our freedom.”
He isn’t the first to say so. Last month, at a debate among attorney general candidates in Florida, Republican contender Jeff Kottkamp said of a similar case there, “This lawsuit’s not about health care,” the St. Petersburg Times reported. “This lawsuit’s about freedom,”
They are both wrong. It’s about politics. It’s so obviously about politics that most folks take that fact for granted.
These cases are another way for Republicans to try to defeat a Democratic initiative and score points while doing it. Notice that 18 of the 20 attorneys general suing in Florida are Republicans.
Virginia’s top lawyer is a standout among health-care opponents because he rushed to the courthouse to file his case first instead of joining the crowd about to file in Florida. Cuccinelli got the spotlight all to himself this week when a judge in Richmond gave Virginia a preliminary victory.
These cases can’t be just about health care, because that’s a policy matter for lawmakers to decide, not judges. There is a certain legitimacy to the White House’s complaint that, having lost legislatively, opponents are asking unelected judges to step in.
But if these cases were about health care, someone might point out that more than 1 million Virginians, or 15 percent under the age of 65, have no medical insurance, a figure that keeps growing.
A witness might testify that starting next month insurers will be barred from denying sick children coverage under a provision that takes effect Sept. 23.

What matters is that neither a state nor the retards in Washington have any right to TAX people who don’t want to suffer the outrage of being TAXED for NOT having something they DON”T WANT. NO legitinate government has the right to FORCE people to BUY something they DO NOT WANT!

Go, Virginia! Go, America! Never back down from thse tyrants. It’s freedom or slavery, and there is no middle ground.