Myron,
Exactly and they also hand out pamphlets to instruct these illegals as to where to go in the US to get these free things, such as housing and health care and welfare.

Queston: Why do the Democraps have such a problem with presidential candidates. Both Billy Jeff Clinton and Oblamea have untraceable pedigrees.

Well, you’re getting carried away here. “They” rape, “they” murder, “they” distribute tons of drugs?? Mexico as a country is responsible for none of these. There may be individuals, as with from any race, who commit these type of heinous crimes, but your commentary shows that you are willing to label all Latinos as offenders. Where is the evidence to show this? If anything, statistics in other border states are showing a lessening of criminal activity not the all-out pilaging that you´re claiming.

While it does seem rather odd that Mexico would want its day in court, a simpler explanation for this is that it wants to ensure that the perspective of Mexican within the U.S. (legally or illegally) gets heard. No one here is going to speak up for them… or indeed, ever listen to their stories and hopes for a brighter future.

America until lately was always the land of opportunity, and people came from nations around the world to try to live the American dream, with their only requirement for entry their willingness to work hard to make it. By far the majority of illegals are hard workers… just ask anyone in construction or agriculture. (The same can’t be said for most white folk.) Some may abuse the welfare system… but the percentage is much lower than with other races, and if that’s really the problem then clean it up… for everybody.

In the meantime, people, Amerika is rapidly becoming the land of government surveillance and sealed borders… along with a substancial dose of xenophobia that is turning quickly into outright racism and violence. Does that sound vaguely familiar… like maybe something out of WWII?

Isorio, do you even know any Latin families? My advice is: Chill out!

Take an evening and watch a Clint Eastwood film… “Gran Torino”, for example.

You

a sceptic,
If Mexico allows its citizens to grow and distribute drugs, and helps their citizens to come across the border illegally, and by the way they do, then yes, MEXICO is responsible. Don’t think for a minute the United States isn’t blamed for some of the things their citizens do that is bad or wrong.
Of course I realize you don’t really want an answer, you just want to spout your Socialistic ways and will not want to accept reason or common sense.
You said no one is speaking up for the Mexicans either legal or illegal. That is not true. There are a lot of people speaking up for them, Obama being number one. By the way you are speaking up for them, are you a no one?
One more point, we love immigration here in this country, its the illegal immigration that we are opposed to, but you already know that.

Septic tank, your assessment is completely wrong. Of course, your true colors show through with, “The same can’t be said for most white folk”. Really? You deride others for using generalities, too bad you don’t follow your own advice. Well, that’s typical. Instead of “chilling out” why don’t you go spend a few days on our border with those mild mannered illegals streaming across into our country.

Fact- they are breaking the law. Nothing more needs to be said.

Fact- Arizona’s law is less restrictive than Federal Law.

Fact- There is a legal method for becoming a US citizen available.

There are many more appropriate responses, such as the costs associated with illegal immigration, that could be argued. But, what else needs to be said? It’s illegal.

“There may be individuals, as with from any race, who commit these type of heinous crimes, but your commentary shows that you are willing to label all Latinos as offenders.”

They ARE all offenders! Perhaps not of those stated crimes but they are certainly an offender of our immigration laws!

TO A SCEPTIC I GUESS YOU HAVEN’T BEEN WATCHING THE RIGHT NEWS STATION, THEY ARE PROTESTING IN OUR STREETS, TRAMPLING OUR FLAG AND THESE ARE SUPPOSE TO GOOD PEOPLE [REALLY]AND MOST OF THEM PROBABLY DON’T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE PROTESTING ABOUT. JUST MORE TROUBLE MAKERS IN THIS COUNTRY GETTING AN EDUCATION OFF OUR DIME.

That is because they really think they have won and are part of this country. It won’t be long and it will be a reality. Our government does not give a damn about us or the constitution. It is terrible what your government has given away.

A sceptic,

How do you like those silly names they called people?When they don’t agree with some one,they resorts to all kinds of insults.You got Jeep who cleans restrooms for a living and Jana who don’t have enough sense to go to the restroom by herself. They would make a good dream team. They miss those days of a good strong rope and a stout tree.Boy,if they had those good old days their problems would be solved.Maybe times are changing.

coal miner,
You think you are so cute and you are, in your own mind.
If you ever were a coal miner then maybe that’s your problem. You inhaled too much of that coal dust. Messed up your congnitive reasoning and turned you into a pathetic Socialist.

What ‘a matter lil boy coal? Can’t argue with facts? So, you just throw out garbage? What a waste of time you are…

coal miner- i was a oil field worker and a nuk reactor worker and a truck driver, if you think someones nick name will show there intelligents, that just shows your own stuped left wing liberal views,as long as i have money you can spend,[wrong] this is a conseritive posting we are haveing a grownup talk about an important subject illegals not latinos or black or white or brown,illegals,i know in your liberal mind you have trouble with that so here is the differance illegal is not legal ,or criminal not with in the law, as illegal immigration, criminal trespassing upon anothers land or property,being undocumented, no proof of citizen ship, i tryed to keep it simple for people like you that have snorted the liberal ass gas, that has destroyed your understanding of right and wrong

That piss pot called Mexico will remain that way untill it’s own people stand up on thier hind legs and take back thier country. How many other nations have taken over Mexico in the past? Too many. Mexico’s people have the numbers, if each one of them would would pick up a rock and toss it against a Federalies, politicians or a dope dealers skull they could take back thier nation. Don’t bring your trash here to dump it.

a sceptic,
Your post though interesting, its focus is some what distantant from what anyone who is of Hispanic decent who is here “Legaly” really feels.

I have countless friends of Hispanic backround who live here and have done all that was required of them to be here as Citizens of the United States.
I can say that not a single one feels that Mexico is acting in a manor that is rational or logical.

That is what they tell you, but

Hey, Ms Sceptic or Mr Sceptic. I don’t want to be rude, I want to address you appropriately. Most of my best friends, co workers and Military buddies are Latinos. My Grandfather last name is Rances half Spanish. I have a great admiration to all Latinos or other immigrants who immigrated here to the United States legally. I came here to the United States legally, however, my sister is still awaiting for her call from the US immigration office. This has been since 1988. The delay, is because of the influx of illegals who jump over the fence,
across the borders without any respect for the Laws of our country. I don’t know what your current position. If you are illegally in this country PLEASE TURN-IN YOURSELF AND DO IT the RIGHT way. There is no limits to anyone who desire to come here in this great Country, provided they do it the right way. STAY IN LINE AND WAIT FOR YOUR TURN.
I am not getting carried away… its the facts, they rape, murder, they distribute tons of drugs, take away our jobs, we pay their health care, we pay their educations etc. Sceptic, where have you been, are you listening to the news. This is the reason why Gov. Jan Brewer set up a new immigration law in Arizona. My respect to Congress Woman Gifford (D) AZ who supports the Arizona Immigration law
as well. Listen to Fox news or Rush Limbaugh. You don’t have to believe them but at least you have to compare who is telling the truth. I have confidence in all Latinos, they are good people, conservative, religious and believe in the almighty.
I am a retired Military and I have an obligation to uphold and protect the Constitution of the United States against domestic or foreign enemy. You should be proud yourself as I am, enjoying the generosity of this great Country, the Freedom and pursue of happiness. Stand up for America, be American. Tell your illegal friends to do the thing. Stay on line and wait for their turn. Adios.
Isirio Rences

a sceptic…You’re so full of leftwing,liberal b—s— your eyes are probably brown. There’s a newspaper called Middle American News where you can get all the FACTS about who is robbing,raping,killing,frauding,and freeloading in America.
Middle American News, P.O.Box20608,Raleigh,NC.27619(919-839-1001)
manews@manews.org
or
Americans for Immigration Control. (540-468-2023)
aic@immigrationcontrol.com
http://www.immigrationcontrol.com
As Joe Friday would say…nothing but the facts ma’am.

a sceptic says:
June 28, 2010 at 9:47 am
Well, you’re getting carried away here. “They” rape, “they” murder, “they” distribute tons of drugs?? Mexico as a country is responsible for none of these. There may be individuals, as with from any race, who commit these type of heinous crimes, but your commentary shows that you are willing to label all Latinos as offenders.

Are you trying to call yourself “Skeptic”?

And no we’re not trying to label all latinos as rapists and murderers.
We’re trying to deport illegal aliens. So, put your race card away…it has no place in this debate! Not for you, not for the Feds and most certainly not for Mexico.

Wake up do your research We the people of America are a laughing stock. They the illegals laugh at us as we pay for their schooling and their medical bills they. Also donot have to pay taxes they come in and take take take and we are supposed to protect them? Just what message are our children getting that one can come in and do all these illegal things and protect them they get benefits what do you think that is teaching American children. When are we going to stand up for America where is the faithfulness to our country ? No but we cator to these illegals I will say it again Illegals because what they are doing is illegal period wake up !!! You may enjoy being walked all over I will for one support Arizona and hope the rest of the union will follow suit! I for. One am sick of paying and protecting these illegals and not having any say in the matter.We need to take back America before we get over took by these people Doing these illegal things that’s why they are called illegals. You can support support illegal activity but – will not.Stand up America!

Mexico wants the US to accept ONLY Mexicans here. The rest should be shuffled off. And they do their best to insure they do – one way or another.

They don’t have socks for thier choes

L.Sintros, yes, a vast majority of the citizens here are for it. the illegals aren’t.

L.Sintros…RINO Teddy McCain has NOT done an about face.That’s what he wants everyone to believe,hoping he will be re-elected. Don’t be fooled! McCain is a wolf in sheeps clothing!Vote for J.D.Hayworth!

McCain is a Globalist who’s loyalties are no longer to the United States.

William, what most don’t know is that more Americans have been killed by illegal aliens then were killed by terrorists on 9/11! Don’t believe it? Do the research, look it up. On top of that there have been over one million sex crimes committed by illegal aliens. This is just considered a “cost of doing business” by Congress but the blood of those Americans is on the House and on the Senate. They may not consider it important but the law of the Universe apply whether one believes it them or not. THEY WILL BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE! I suggest that before the Laws of the Universe apply that these Congressman be held accountable NOW and that we vote them out in November. If we wait until 2012 will be to late! It is NOVEMBER OR NEVER!

7/1/10, Rich, don’t get your hopes up too high; the GOP sold us out, too. To quote the one & only Bob Grant: “It’s over,folks. We’re slipping & sliding precipitously into third worldism.” ~~p.weiters~~

One Executive Order too far, leading to Mass Amnesty, will lead to Mass Insurrection. Plain and simple. If “We, the People” win, we all win. If “They, the Statists” Win, “We, the People” lose. Perhaps forever. (Remember: Always aim just below the blue helmet. No matter what color it is.)

Let’s use them for live fire exercises,wont cost the government a dime,we already paid[SS etc] and let them earn the right to be here,if they survive they stay,if they dont too bad. It would be great training for our troops for the coming immigrant & drug lord wars which are brewing.See you at the range!

7/1/10, Steph, Bam could be one, himself. This issue has been carefully squashed. The state of Hawaii passed a statute proscribing any further inquiries on BHO’s birthplace; according to them, he was born in HI, you don’t think so? Well tough s***. Nice, huh? ~~~p.weiters~~~

7/1/10, Yeah Jana, we’ll take payment in oil (Pemex); fat chance, Jana.
~~~p.weiters~~~~

7/1/10, Guy, Jana, Calderon can pay us in oil (Pemex). Both gov’ts –ours & theirs– are corrupt. This campus radical-turned-prez is a disgrace.
~~~~p.weiters~~~~~~~~

Google: North American Union.

We should send him home with a couple of hundred thousand illegals under each arm.

LOL…YES!

In their unimaginable kindness, those are the Americans that have been quiet too long. But that is changing.

JC,
YAHOOOOOO

David in Ma.,

I went on a trip to Singapore a few years back. The first thing I was told was to keep my passport with me at all times. I did. I never did anything to be asked for my papers, but if I had been asked I would have gladly shown them.
The same thing happened when I went to Germany, France, Scotland and Ireland. I kept my passport in a holder that went around my neck. In other words, I complied with the laws of that particular land.
Mexico is showing they have no respect for our laws, they are trying to bully us into compliance. Obama is trying to bully Arizona into his compliance. Shoot, he is tryng to bully all of us into Socialism and Communism. He surrounds himself with Communists and has stated he likes and feels comfortable with their ideologies.

Really! Ever tried to write a check (even if you’ve done business with the stupid bank for years) without any ID – or an expired ID?!? Not to mention another “required” ID.

Diana, when the new health programs begin everyone will have a national ID then. They have tried every other way to initiate this and now it’s a done deal.

There was a time when owner operators of any business or local government servant knew and respected all their customers and voters on sight. Population and government explosion paralleled by continued devaluation of currency has caused the necessity of business expansion to the point where the means is no longer visible from either extreme. Security measures have evolved into being more of an insurance requirement or indirect monetary protection a handled by hired hands thereby sheltering the elite from the filth of parasitic competition between insurance moguls and overpopulated barrister ranks. Now guess who pays their added expense.

Margi Popp,
As far as I am concerned, if they are afraid to visit Arizona (which I highly doubt) then let them stay home or visit someplace else!

I live in Florida (5th generation)and we need a law like Arozona’s.
The illegals are taking over our state! Not only from the southern border but also from the Caribbean. 29 illegal Cubans landed yeaterday!

One would think that the idea would be widely accepted since the cost of flying them all back at first class rates is cheaper than a year of entitlements forced onto them by waiting government agencies.

No doubt, judging by his latest admission that all southbound shipments INTO Mexico are all inspected.

William -
Remember – no other president has done anything about this either. NOW – the Mexican president is using blackmail to get what he wants/demands from us.
Like everyone else before him (Obama) – he will crumble. He will give the whole damn country away to whoever he can (like Elena Kagan, Sonia Sotomayor & also the illegal aliens) before he is done.
Picture this:
Tough military men & women running from the front lines with their limp wrists flapping in the breeze.
Or:
Obama with a gold & red velvet crown on his head.
Yeah, it’s coming – sooner than you think.

The Democrats neither like nor trust the military. They consider anyone who would volunteer to be a frustrated murderer.

I think their big push for gays in the military is because they KNOW that many already there would quit. They want to reduce the size of the military by making it a gay sex club.

America is becoming weak due to its division and lawlessness. As a result, Americans no longer have the will to make sacrifices necessary to fight and win wars. “We are not prepred to die to defend our security, as we were in the pat, ” Gerald Flurry writes. “This is the supreme sign that our will has been broken — and that our republic cannot stand.” That broken will was prophesied in Leviticus 26:19, where God said He would “break the pride of your power.” The unwinnable war in Afganistan being fought w/a politically correct “just war” strategy, is a result of that curse. Can you see it?

But can you embrace the statement made by Patrick Henry on March 23,1775? Notice that even then he chose to remain active in state politics rather than risk what Santa might deliver to him in national politics.

Amen to that, William. What other president OF ANY COUNTRY would allow another country to file a suit in an American court? When God was talking about human government in the last days, He said through Isaiah 1:7 “Your country is desolate, your cities are burned with fire: your land, STRANGERS DEVOUR IT IN YOUR PRESENCE, and it is desolate, as OVERTHROWN BY STRANGERS.”

7/1/10, You are so right, Diana; Nikita Kruchev once told us he would bury us —-as he banged his shoe on the table.
Well….it’s now happening under the BHO gov’t. I’m almost 63 & I believe I will see armed revolution in my lifetime; everything points in that direction.
We are vulnerable to attack from enemies both foreign & domestic. It’s sad but true. ~~~~p.weiters~~~~

Well Obummer gave pres. calderon more than he alloted for the state
of Arizona for border patrol.
That don’t piss me off half as bad as the $20,000,000 he gave to the People of Gaza ( HAMASS ) some sort of aid program. What a pile of it. Just donateing his cousins a little of our TAX MONEY for their weapons program. bad words bad words, bad words