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Ceding Arizona To Mexico

June 21, 2010 by  

Ceding Arizona To Mexico

America is losing the battle along the border with Mexico—apparently without a fight. As proof, a swatch of Arizona 80 miles wide that runs from the Mexican border about three counties deep into the state (encompassing about 3,500 acres) has been ceded to Mexicans.

Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu told Fox News that armed paramilitary elements control a portion of the Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge and other parts of Arizona. But rather than try and reclaim it, signs have been posted marking the area as off limits to Americans.

It was closed in October 2006, due to human safety concerns, according to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.

The signs read: “Danger—Public Warning. Travel Not Recommended.” To see a clip of Babeu’s interview click here.

The squad-sized (in American military parlance a squad refers to two teams of four or five soldiers each) armed paramilitary elements Babeu referred to are drug smugglers and human traffickers out of Mexico. And violence there has increased the last fourth months.

He conceded that neither he nor other local sheriff’s departments and city police forces had the manpower to take the area back. It’s going to take the U.S. military, he said, and that’s why Babeu, his fellow law enforcement heads and Senator John McCain (R-Ariz.) recently asked Obama for 3,000 National Guard troops.

Obama responded by promising Arizona Governor Jan Brewer he’d get back to her. He hasn’t.

As I wrote last week in Breaking Their Oath, this is not the only place armed elements have crossed the Mexican border in the U.S. There have been many sightings reported—and several videos made to back them up—of either elements of the Mexican military or police forces crossing the border in force. There have also been shootouts with U.S. Border agents.

Just recently a young smuggler was killed by U.S. Border agents and armed agents from Mexico fired on them as they investigated the scene of the shooting.

Breaking Their Oath demonstrated how Obama and the current Congress, as well as Presidents and Congresses past, have failed to live up to their oath of office and protect America from invasion.

The situation in the Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge demonstrates that the fascist elected elites are either feckless and weak or they have an agenda that is contrary to the best interests of our nation. It also demonstrates why Arizona’s recently passed immigration law was necessary.

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There were a lot of interesting comments to last week’s article. The vast majority agreed with Arizona’s soon-to-be-enacted immigration law which will make it a crime to be an illegal alien in the state.

Many were like this one from a person calling himself American Citizen who said,

“The only pertinent word about all of this is ‘illegal.’ They are criminals as soon as they step foot on our territory. Nationality means nothing here.”

Al Seiber is very familiar with what’s going on in Arizona. He has friends near the border. He posted,

“My friends live 1200′ from the border, out of Sierra Vista, Ariz. they told me they find more prayer mats then anything. I find lot’s of back packs, with tortillas and water bottles in them.”

Some commenters think the answer is a fence along the border: a fence that Washington obviously has no interest in completing. Typical of that line of thinking comes from someone calling himself bp who wrote,

“People are WALKING over the border with their backpacks long before they stand on the street corner for a day job! Fences, we need SERIOUS fences (like the ones we build around our prisons) and the kind of armored vehicles that the Mexican Polizia showed us last week (when one of their smugglers was killed on U.S. soil)! Who knew they had these?!”

Not all agree. A regular liberal commenter who calls himself Denniso had this to say:

“Bob Livingston says ‘we are being invaded and the gov’t is doing nothing to stop it’. Is that supposed to be a joke? I just drove along a part of the border and the highway was full of border patrol vehicles, driving back and forth. We have thousands more border patrol agents than we’ve ever had all along the border, at a cost of billions of dollars per year…what is that? doing nothing?

Come on Bob, don’t twist the facts just to stir up the hotheads in the country more than they already are. If thousands of agents swarming the border is doing nothing and building a ridiculous and multi billion $$ wall is nothing, then I wonder what it is you would consider doing something?”

No Denniso. Unfortunately it is no joke. Usually you provide coherent dissenting commentary. Not this time.

There are places—like the Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge and surrounding territory—where agents don’t go, but armed insurgents from across the border do. And ask the residents of some of the border towns about the armed Mexican helicopters—sometimes seen hovering over houses and shining spotlights at night as if searching for someone or something—and how they feel about what is being done to protect them.

Certainly more could be done by the Federal government if the fascist elites in power wanted something done. Big John in Virginia had a good suggestion. He wrote,

“Why do we have 37,000 troops on the border between North and South Korea, but we can’t put enough on our borders to protect us? Let’s all go to Arizona for vacations this year. I am. I’ve always wanted to see the Grand Canyon!! Help make up for the boycotts. See ya there!!!”

Or, we could reduce the size of Empire America and just bring those troops home and put them along our border. But visiting Arizona is always a good idea.

And refuse2lose commented, sarcastically I suppose,

“I would like to challenge any person that is against the Arizona immigration bill to call your representatives in congress, also write a letter to Obama and tell them that the federal immigration law needs to be shredded and a new one needs to be written up. Because, in case you are like Obama, Holder and Napolitano who didn’t take time to read the bill but got on tv and condemned it, I have actually read the bill and it is EXACTLY like the federal bill. So if you are accusing Arizonians of being profilers then you are in fact accusing your liberal icons of profiling.”

The grammar’s not great, but you get the drift. Actually, letting your fascist elected representative know how you feel about the illegal immigration situation is not a bad idea. So we’ve come up with a way you can do that. First, you can go here and vote in our Immigration Reform Poll.

So far 97 percent of those who’ve voted believe America should follow Arizona’s lead when it comes to immigration reform. And a whopping 92 percent of respondents would like to see their state pass a similar immigration law.

After you’ve voted, send the link to your friends and family and ask them to vote as well. The results will be shared with major media outlets across the country, so the more votes cast the better.

You can also contact your Congressweasel (or Congressman if his or her name happens to be Ron Paul or Michelle Bachman or one or two others) and let him or her know how you feel. If you don’t know how to contact your Senator or Representative you can find him or her by going here.

As rob posted:

“’We the People’ need to start being seen in ‘GREATER’ numbers and heard from in masses. We need to see and hear from candidates where they stand on major issues and hold them accountable. Why is it we are not asking our candidates or elected officials outright on their stance with major issues as immigration. Quit hiding….. NOW is our opportunity to be heard….NOW is our opportunity to be seen…. November is coming soon…. don’t pass it up.”

Why indeed? What better way to know where they stand than by asking them yourself? We’ve done the hard part for you. You no longer have an excuse.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American who has been writing a newsletter since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • vance drake

    send BHO back to keyna anhis wife too.i feel sorry for his kids to have grow up an having people telling them your dad is the worse pres the USA ever had

  • Gib Chase

    I’m all for Arizona’s new immigration law however, I know of no lost of land to Mexico or any Mexican group. The National Wildlife refuge has not been taken over and is still under the control of the USF&WS.

    G.Chase,
    USF&WS Retired

    • http://LiberttyDigest Bruce D.

      Again a great article Bob!

    • JC

      Gib,
      The US Authroities have been on a stand down:

      http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/16/closes-park-land-mexico-border-americans/

      It’s as disgusting as the complete lack of leadership from DC.

    • JC

      Gib,
      The US Authorities have been on a stand down:

      http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/16/closes-park-land-mexico-border-americans/

      It’s as disgusting as the complete lack of leadership from DC.

    • Vicki

      USF&WS is obviously NOT in control. If they were then there would be no need for signs warning AMERICAN CITIZENS to beware when traveling INSIDE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA because of alien invaders.

      The entire admin failure to take any action let alone decisive action is dereliction of the duty they swore to. It is in and of itself an impeachable offense.

      It is a good reason to vote most or all incumbents out in November and to demand the impeachment of all the admin by the new congress in 2011

  • Bear

    As I understand from this article, we now have “paramilitary units” and vehicles from Mexico, allegedly drug dealers working for the Mexican drug cartels, which are armed crossing our borders into the United States. I believe that constitutes an “armed invasion” upon Americans and American soil. Who does not get that? Maybe Denniso doesn’t, but this would not be the first time I have suggested that his head was in a defelade position. I don’t think we need Obama’s permission to go after these units and destroy them. We do need the manpower with the equipment. If your article is accurate, Bob, and this information is factual and correct. We need a full military response to this invasion. This is no longer just people looking for a better life or even a few drug thugs. This, to me, represents what many Americans have been suspecting all along that Mexico’s agenda is to take back the territories taken from Mexico during the Mexican American war by any mneans and President Calderon must surely be behind the cartels and all of this action. Why else would he come to our country and tell us what we should do for him and his people…..like get rid of illegal imigration laws. I believe Gov. Jan Brewer needs to declare a state emergency and demand U.S. Military intervention to eliminate all illegal human trafficing, all drug trafficing and take back all of the Buenos Aires National Wildlife Reserve and all areas that are now considered too dangerous for American’s travel. My God, this is our country. What the hell is going on when we are not safe to travel within our own borders? What the hell is going on when we are not safe from foreign attacks on our own soil?

    • http://LiberttyDigest Bruce D.

      Actually AZ and NM was bought and paid for from Mexico. They were not part of the battle for Texas where both Americans and Mexican land owners fought against a corrupt Mexican government and Santa Ana.

      • http://LiberttyDigest Bruce D.

        I might ad that the USA was not involved in the war for Texas independence. Americans settling in Texas legally became disgruntled when Santa Ana took power and abolished the Mexican constitution and assumed dictator powers over Mexico and Texas. The American/Mexican War did not start untill later. I think but I am not sure over water disputes and piracy if I remember correctly.

    • 45caliber

      Further, many of these units are actually Mexican army hired by the drug dealers to draw off the Border Patrol. So far they haven’t shot any our our people – at least to my knowledge – but they ARE military units doing this. And that is certainly an invasion.

      • eddie47d

        We need proof not your wishing and hopeing.

      • JeffH

        …asking for proof? You’ve NEVER EVER provided one piece of “proof” in your comments but have the nerve to ask for “proof”? Get off your ask and “proof” him wrong, but that might require some factual work, something you have no experience in doing.

      • kate8

        JeffH, You can lead a liberal to the truth but you can’t make him look at it.

      • eddie47d

        Just mimmicking your B.S. Mr. Parrot

      • JeffH

        fast eddie, that’s all you can so is “mimick” and “parrot”. If you ever had an actual thought, we might keel over with something other than laughter.

      • http://GOGGLE vaksal

        wow great,does that mean that you will go into the buenos aires national park on a fact finding mission? dont worry if you dont come back that means either you are dead or dead wrong,and if you come back shot up or without ears or eyes that means nothing changed.get real live your life looking at the thruth,quit dreaming that this is disneyland and you are peter pan.and no you cant have the teddybear,buy your own,obama needs his.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        So now fast eddie has sided with the illegals and with the mexican militia, and turned his back on his fellow American’s. Shame on you Eddie, shame on you. Your a traitor, and when it comes down to fighting to keep our land, you know what happens to traitors dont you? Boom boom, out go the lights. I dont think you want to be in our trenches when the fighting starts. And I wouldnt want a person like you in the trench with me either, hell, who knows what side you would take.

  • rjl/texas

    I THINK ITS TIME THAT ALL THE STATES THAT ARE ON THE MEXICAN BORDER TO JOIN ARIZONA AND DECLARE SUCH A LAW. ITS CLEAR THAT THE FEDS ARE NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING. ID LIKE TO SEE GOV JAN RUN FOR PRESIDENT BET SHE WOULD WIN.

    THE ILLEGALS THAT ARE COMING IN FROM MEXICO ARE NOT ALL MEXICANS. TERRORIST HAVE FOUND AN EASYWAY TO GET IN THRU THE MEXICAN BORDER AND ARE USING IT. BE PREPARED AMERICAN BECAUSE WE ARE FIXING TO GET INTO A WAR IN OUR OWN COUNTRY THAT WILL BE HARD TO WIN. ONE DAY ALL THESE RAG HEADS ARE GOING TO CLOSE THEIR STORES AND MOTELS AND START KILLING US OFF. THEIR JUST WAITING FOR THE RIGHT MOMENT AND THEN THE SLEEPERS WILL ACT. IM GETTING OLD BUT IM AFRAID THAT MY GRANDCHILDREN MIGHT HAVE TO GO UP IN A WORLD GOVERNED BY SOCIALISM AND THAT IS SCARY

  • JC

    We have brave men and women stationed overseas fighting and dying to bring freedom and security to those unable to fend for themselves.
    Yet we throw our own citizens and our own territory to the criminals
    of a neighboring nation without so much as a whimper.
    Our leader is no American, but does play the role of coward very well.
    How much more perverse does the situation have to be before this trespass is actionable?

    • 45caliber

      Sad, isn’t it?

      • JC

        Pathetic.

    • 45caliber

      The real problem is that while many Americans are willing to do what is necessary to stop the invasion, our own police forces will arrest us and try us over and over for the same offence until they get a guilty sentence to show Mexico and the rest of the world we really aren’t nasty people who dislike Mexicans after all.

      It isn’t that some of us wouldn’t do it anyway but it sure can be expensive.

  • Ron…

    Obamma belongs in the slammer! This man acts more like a Manchurian President each day. He should be impeached for many reasons. He has disgraced the office of our President. He is worse than Carter, and has more gall the Lyndon Johnson, if the Congress had real character and honor, they would be insisting on a 50,000 man army to rid our soil of those who sully it with their presence. Are they going to wait, like they usually do, for the situation to worsen, by Mexicans occupying other portions, “by the take a little, take a lot” policy? Do they want to have the American citizens, armed, to rid the trespassers? It can be done and it will be done, if they are not going to take action in Washington. and sit on their butts while the wimp Muslim do-nothing, continues to reign and messing up our nation, or are we going to get tough and demand impeachment of this usurper in our midst. [Inappropriate comment removed] Throw him and his czars out. Do it now and get her done. Vote out the wimp members of Congress in the November election!

  • John

    Looks to me like we have an invasion going on. This is right up the alley for the Bildeberg group and the one world government people. They are deliberately messing up our backyard with the puppet presidents that we have had. Time to fire up the cavalry and take back the territory. This is an assault on the sovereignty of the USA. And yet we are sending a boatload of soldiers to the afghan front to deal with a problem that started 1300 years ago. The only solution is extreme aggression not this panzy bs that Obama is. We need a real POTUS that can stand up for himself and not embarrass our nation. What a loser the American people voted into power.

  • http://coinmanplus.com dennis scott

    IF..we had a Constitution…a Declaration of Independence or even a Bill of Rights…We, the people, might have a fighting chance! Apparently these documents are relics of the past! I was taught that the Sheriffs of sovereign states had supreme authority over the Federal Government! I was taught that We, the people, gave certain limited powers to the Government and if those powers were abused…We, the people, can overthrow the Government! Have we become 307 million “pawns” on the Governments chessboard? Have we, the people, regressed so far that 307 million people cannot unseat 545? Can it be that one Satanic,narcissistic individual,being “puppeteer-ed” by an Oligarchy entity,can succeed in mesmerizing a Nation of 307 million strong?
    AMERICA….WAKE UP! LOAD YOUR MUSKETS AND TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK!!

  • JERRY ANDERSON

    Yes, the entire US should follow Arzona,s move and protect all our borders. Ihave nothing against Mexicans & have always enjoyed my visit to Mexico. But if they are going to try and live here, they need to become citizens and speak the language.

  • Bruce Schmidt

    While I agree that the border needs to be secured NOW. I think the credibility of this site is reduced when I find “related posts” like below. How are thy related to immigration?
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    • http://LiberttyDigest Bruce D.

      What’s wrong with you. What does that have to do with anything. If you do not want to read something or buy something don’t. Maybe someone else does.

    • Vicki

      Bruce. If you look at the red stripe in the header you will find a set of subcategories. Immigration is in conservative politics section. As to “related” that is likely created automatically by some software that has bugs. As such you could report the error to the web master or do what we do which is ignore the unrelated articles

  • gary thiel

    obama needs to get off his ass and off t.v. trying to look cute and do something.

    • JC

      For sure…like getting on a plane back to his homeland would be a good start.

  • BigIron

    If Arizona wants to “police” inside it’s borders that’s a STATE matter. If Arizona should wish to form a “militia” to “eradicate” this incursion then they should put out the call to “form up”! I’m sure that there would be answers to that call from all over our Country. It would then be an action based in law and not the actions of a mob. Until Arizona chooses to make that call we can do little to help other than offer “lip service”.

  • larry

    pardon my ignorance. i was under the impression that the GOVERNORS of the states were the individuals w/ the AUTHORITY to call out the NATIONAL GUARD troops w/in their state whenever they declared a state of emergency. CLEARLY, the situation described here qualifies as a STATE OF EMERGENCY! when US citizens are refused access to a US NATIONAL PARK b/c it is HOME to FOREIGN INVADERS, that IS an emergency. i would suggest that the gov of AZ meet w/ a few of her neighbor states’ governors and jointly CALL OUT THE NATIONAL GUARD TO REMOVE THE FOREIGN INVADERS!! they do NOT need bho and DC to protect their territory. if i am mistaken, please straighten me out. IF i am correct, tell the affected governors to get off their butts and TAKE ACTION for the safety of their citizens! GGGGRRRRRRrrrr. peace.

    • Al Sieber

      Our governor has met with resistance with the Obama admin.over the Nat. Guard. it might end up where the people take matter’s into their hands. I reported the prayer mats to authorities 4-years ago exactly, June, 2006. and it’s not about coming here for the job’s Hflashman, there’s rumor’s of amnesty, and freebie’s. a friend of mine has a silver mining operation in Sonora, Mexico, he headed down there last Tues. got as far as the border and was told that the drug lords have taken over the village, he wanted me to go with him, I said no way, he’s at his ranch in Kansas he e-mailed me last night. so what do we do about this invasion? we’re the only country with open borders.

      • larry

        “Our governor has met with resistance with the Obama admin……” since when does any governor need to get the permission of anyone in DC to call out his/her NATIONAL GUARD to police a state of emergency w/in the boundary of his/her state???? peace.

      • Al Sieber

        Since the Fed. Govt. took over the Nat. Guard.

      • Al Sieber

        The Fed. Govt. controls the Nat. Guard now.

      • larry

        al, pls see http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/agency/army/arng.htm so that you may understand the facts better. the pres MAY call individual units of the ANG [which he has done]. however, all units of the ANG report to the GOVERNORS of their state and he appoints an adjutant general [TAG] who is the actual commander.

      • Al Sieber

        Larry, all I know is we have been asking for the Nat. Guard in Ariz. for year’s now, I don’t give a rat’s a$$ who controls the Nat. Guard at the moment, we just need them, along with our borders closed. our Goven. has asked and asked for help with no results. your guess is as good as mine.

      • JC

        Al, note the link larry provides…”global security”.

      • Johnny C

        The Governer of each State is the Commander of the National Guard and can call them up in case of a State emergency which means the State pays the bill. If the President calls them up then they are Federalized and the Feds pay the bill. Obviously, Obama is in bed with Calderon on this issue so this is not something he wants to do that will upset his friend.

      • Arizona Born US Citizen

        The State of Arizona is functioning on a lack of funds……”almost broke” if that makes sense to anyone; so if Arizona has to pay the bill it would be totally broke!!! Thus, the reason for asking the Feds for help…

      • Vicki

        One little detail. The acreage in discussion appears to be a NATIONAL park not a state park. As such it is up to the FedGov to go in and cleanup. Now for state public lands and private property the state (AZ) should call out their state guard and place them along the border.

      • kate8

        Obama is just itching for violence to break out so he can declare martial law.

        They seem to be setting it up so that it is inevitable. They are deliberately enraging the American people in every way they can.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Since Obama socialism came to town.

    • bp

      Larry; Interesting that they are holed up in a U.S. National Park. Do they know more than we do? Who has jurisdiction there? Arizona or Feds?

      • larry

        bp, how RIGHT YOU ARE ! ! the parks are under the control of the USF&WS, and, as such, i BELIEVE they are NOT considered STATE land. the rat bast++ds know this too. GGGGRRRRrrrrr peace.

      • JC

        The Rat Bastard in the White House knows this better than anyone.
        Still, it’s American soil and requires an American action. No point waiting for the Kenyan boy to get involved.

  • Ralph Jacobson

    I think it would be a great time for the Arizona National Guard to schedule some search and destroy training in the Buenos Aires National Wildlife Refuge. With all those prayer rugs, turning up they may find an encampment of Islamic terrorists. Should not the National Security Administration be a LITTLE concerned about this, or are these Islamic infiltrators, maybe long lost relatives of our “President” I mean Resident Socialist.

    • JC

      They don’t want it stopped Ralph, keeping the “terror hype” up is big business to the Globalists. We The People will be the ones to retore America or no one will.

  • hflashman

    Typical…rant at those who didn’t cause the issues, and let those who did cause this problem to go unscathed.

    If y’all get interested in punishing the real lawbreakers, the ones who perpetuate the problems, I’ll be surprised.

    The people who are the ROOT CAUSE of our undocumented problems are not the poor slobs who come here for work…it’s those that employ them. Plain and simple.

    If you threw employers of undocumenteds into the county jail for 30 days, no bail on appeal … the social stigma and 30 days of jail food will cure the problem. It would take one case to prove it’s enforced. No jobs? no reason to come here.

    A fence? Of all the balderdash ever conceived. A fence works both ways…keeping us in a jail as well. And who’s going to tell the people whose lands ar confiscated for this fence? Who pays for it? Of all the stupid ideas… a fence. Like the Berlin Wall worked eh?

    • 1minuteman

      those poor mexicans arn’t the only ones coming over. you also have al-queda,hammas, and hizboulah as well as the poor mexican drug runners coming across so if you think it’s only guys looking for work then what rock have you been under.

    • Conservative at Birth

      I think the land along the border may not be privately owned. It might be worth checking out. Yes, the employers of illegal aliens should be punished as well as the interluders. A fence is not the complete solution. I suggest sensors with remote controlled guns that would automatically fire at the spot until the sensor stops.

      • Don

        Hey Conservative at birth. Go to Military.com and type in Sentry to see the robotic sentry. It has already been developed to take the place of standing guards,at outpost.to defend soldiers in bunkers,and other applications.There is a short video showing it in action.

    • http://LiberttyDigest Bruce D.

      I agree employers should be punnished with 30 days in jail and a heavy fine. They are aiding and abeting enemy invaders. Illegals openly protest in our streets demanding that they dictate public policy. They trash our flag and our country. I do not think it would take many convictions of employers before the illegal job market went away. We also must build the fense no matter what the cost. Obama cannot be allowed to just give up American soil along the border to drug runners or let them take up residence in our cities. There should be no new immigration law which would only end up being amnesty. We need to enforce the law we have now.

    • 45caliber

      Russia has a fence and it works very well in both directions. Of course, there are soldiers there guarding it and they have the freedom to shoot anyone they see trying to cross. So do most other countries. Of course, many like Mexico simply depend upon the police and the army to seal the borders – and they do unless the persons they catch bribe them with money and sex.

  • Robin from Arcadia, IN

    Perhaps if there was a really good golf course on the Mexican/Arizona boarder, our fearless “leader” would have a reason to go to Arizona. At least that area would have all the protection afforded the president.

    This is a serious issue and so far, all this administration does is apologize world wide for America being what it is and jaunting to places to golf and vacation.

    Fences and patrols are needed. It doesn’t take a lot to figure this out!

    • larry

      robin, GREAT idea. everyone had a cat when BP CEO went out for a yacht ride; but, it was ok for bho to play golf instead of gg to see the gulf mess? ‘do as i say; not as i do’. where’s the BIRTH CERTIFICATE??? impostor! peace. [PS to robin - join Atlanta CC ]

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Larry…
        PS to robin – join Atlanta CC

        What’s Atlanta CC?

      • larry

        Atlanta Conservation Club up the road from u. a GREAT shooting range. National matches there this coming weekend.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Larry… Thanks… My son has his carry permit and a glock. He graduated last weekend from high school, so he should be free this weekend!

      • larry

        robin, the slate is full for the state match. but, you and yur son shud come up and see what real pistol handling is all about. i applaud yur son’s LTCH and glock. that said, it is ESSENTIAL that he get professional training. i’m on the bottom of the list of contacts and wud b happy to give y’all some guidance.

  • Linda Jackson

    obama don’t want to do anything for us here in USA let’s do our job as he said YES WE CAN!!

  • http://donthaveone Beberoni

    Get this un-American usurper out of office now. While we are being taken over, this modern day Nero plays his fiddle. What kind of an American, would stand around and watch this happen while being in charge? George Soros’s best friend, thats who. Shame on all of you that voted this wanker into office, and shame on losers like denniso who hate this country.

    • momof4

      Here,here!!!

    • Denniso

      Ummm, beb…You’re a little confused,not surprisingly. I loathe people like your heros Limbaugh and Beck and Savage who are trying to destroy the country for their political and financial gain…

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        So I state a true fact, and your comeback is to attack Limbaugh, Beck, and Savage? Nice piece of work you mental giant. Now drop your bong, get to the bank and cash your un-employment check, and get yourself a 40 and get on the porch and watch the working people go by.

      • Denniso

        Beb…what ‘true’ fact did you state? I guess I missed it. you can’t understand that I don’t hate the country,but rather I hate the people mentioned who are leading millions of fools in harming the country for their own monetary gain. Got it???

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        I guess I didnt understand that you hated this democrat administration that is attempting to set all things up so that they have absolute control for their own monetary gain. That is the whole point of this administration, to blow up spending, get people more dependant on government so they have more power, and to take over with socialism to ensure their continued power. I had no idea from your posts that you seen them doing this. I thought you were defending them from all of your posts I read. I agree, that those in power now are all about their own greed and power, and that they need to be stopped.

      • Denniso

        You’re trying to be too clever…Limbaugh/Beck/Savage and others like them are in it for the personal gain. Look at Limbaugh’s contract and tell me he’s not ranting for the money. Those guys don’t give a damn about the country if they can sail off to their private paradise if they destroy it in the process of raking in tens of millions.
        Obama is literally trying to save the country from some of the biggest problems we’ve ever faced,some brought on by your buddies Cheny/Bush and the Reflubs. Get real, Beberoni, and do some independent thinking on the issues and the history of our political system.

      • NM

        That is called CAPITALISM!!! They work for it, and they are oh so correct in their assessment of things.

      • Denniso

        You actually call yelling on the radio for 3 whole hours a day w/ many days off to play golf w/ hotshots, WORK??? Limbaugh makes about 10 or more million $$ a year,for probably 60 hours a week. Work? Limbaugh has never actually worked in his life. Dug a ditch, built fence,made steel,driven a backhoe,poured concrete,built a house,done plumbing,sawed a board,cut firewood? No, limbaugh is a super wealthy fatcat lazyass who has never done real work…

  • Paul Revere

    THE MEXICANS ARE COMING!

    Far from needing a midnight ride, we do need for patriotic Americans to arm and turn the tide of lawless Mexican invaders. This is no longer a case of poor Mexicans coming here to feed thier families, it is an organized effort to get the US to give all the Southwest back to Mexico … at ANY cost. They will kill and harass our law enforcement officers at the border. OK. Two can play that game. Anything larger than say a .375 magnum rifle should bring down a foreign helo. Put one through the turbine and it WILL go down. If it comes down on the US side, capture the aggressors, try them and take whatever measures it takes to make Mexico and our own pathetic government know that we are grave-yard serious about taking our country and our freedom back.

    • Henry Miller

      Mr Revere, You say they, Mexicans, want us to ‘give back’ the Southwest? Does that mean we acquired the land under devious or spurious conditions?

      Along that line; who owned the land we bought in the Louisiana Purchase?

      • Don

        Henry,We won the whole of the area that comprises ,California,New Mexico,Arizona and Texas from Mexico in several wars during the 19th century.In 1917 Mexico was offered a deal from Germany, that promised Mexico that if Germany won the war, it whould give Mexico all of Texas, Arizona, and New Mexico.It just go’s to show that Mexico is not our friend, an whould turn on the US in a hot second. The Louisiana Purchase was bought from France.And by the way, George Bush, Obama, John McCain and Richard Nixon, are all cousins!

      • frank

        Southern arizona was purchased from Mexico in the Gasdon(sp) Purchase

      • coal miner

        Henry Miller,

        “The falsification of history has done more to impede human
        development than any one thing known to mankind”
        - Rousseau 1712-1778 -

        We bought Louisana from the French.

    • eddie47d

      I’m amazed the Mexican government even owns a helicopter as incompentent as they are in dealing with the drug kingpins who rule that nation. In one south central Mexican state 12 out of 19 mayors were indicted for helping the drug gangs. This report also said nothing would probably be done about it. Mostly fear of the gangs from the Mexican officials. Some of these same officials are the problem. That being said your comment on Mexico trying to re-take lost land is over the top fearmongering. We did steal the Southwest from them through war,but that’s old history that doesn’t need to be brought back to life.

      • Leviticus

        THis territory was “Stolen” from mexico! A more accurate description is that this land captured from the dregs of SPAIN! Read James A. Mishner “Texas”.

        If Jan Brewer had real courage she would discuss sucession from the Union. Your payroll tax money that would normally be sent (35->45% of your pay check)to the Kenian in Cheif could easiliy pay for troops on the border. That would make Mordor(Wash. D.C.) quake in fear.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        They probably rented it from the drug kingpins.

    • 45caliber

      These poor starving Mexicans – who pay thousands of dollars to coyotes to help them slip by the Border Patrol and buy ID papers so they can work.

      If they were as hard up as the liberals like to insist, they couldn’t afford to come here.

      • JC

        Perhaps we should stop seeing them as unfortunate undocumented migrants and call them what they are….”Mexican Insurgents”.
        And say! Aren’t we busy hunting down and killing “Insurgents” in a couple of dust bowls overseas somewhere? Time to bring the Military home….we’re being invaded “here”.

    • Viktor Leben

      We need to invade Mexico ……..

      Once the Mexicans are subjugated we must send put them in relocation camps far south of Mexico City. Probably a reservation in Southern Mexico…….

      After Mexico is cleared, we cede it to USA as a territory. Encourage homesteading … Farming… Industry, etc. Develop their underdeveloped land the American Way !

      Fences and TROOPS DEFENDING THE BORDER won’t solve the problem – WE NEED TO INVADE MEXICO !!!!! With about 1,000,000 troops ……. This will solve “The Mexican Problem” once and for all ….

  • Roy

    Does anyone get the fact that Mexicans do not use prayer rugs? That means that radical Islamists have figure out how easy it is to get into this country through the south border. It is an outright act of treason for this poor excuse for a president to sit back and do nothing about it.

  • CW

    Hey Denniso, I’ll bet you go fishing in your bathtub also. Advise—-Go fishing where the fish are and you may catch some. Of course that is if the leftist will allow you in that area. With fishing gear and bait.

  • CHUCKY

    JIMMY CARTER CAN NOW PASS AWAY PEACEFULLY KNOWING THAT HE WILL NOT BE IDENTIFIED AS THE WORST PRESIDENT IN UNITED STATES HISTORY ANYMORE. BARAK OBAMA IS THE UNDISPUTED WORST PRESIDENT IN HISTORY(AND NOT HALF THROUGH HIS TERM). AND TO WASTE TIME AND MONEY(GOOD LUCK WINNING ANY CASE THAT A.G. HOLDER IS TAKING TO COURT) TO DISPUTE THE ARIZONA LAW. 70% OF AMERICANS WANT SOMETHING DONE TO KEEP ILLEGALS OUT. THIS SHIP OF FOOLS(OBAMA ADMINISTRATION) WILL BE SURE TO SINK US ALL. WE ALL NEED TO SEND A CANNONBALL ACROSS THEIR BOW THIS NOVEMBER AND VOTE OUT AS MANY AS YOU CAN. THIS COUNTRY HAS SEEN ENOUGH OF NO COMMON SENSE, PRINT BABY PRINT(MONEY) MENTALITY OF SPENDING. THE DAYS OF DODD,FRANKS,REID,PELOUSI,BOXER,WAXMAN,ECT. HAVE GOT TO BE RETIRED IN NOVEMBER.

    • Jackal

      Dear Chucky,
      The worst president of all time is Georgey W Bush. You are the first person I ‘ve heard proclaim different.

      • Robin from Arcadia, IN

        Jackal…
        Let me be the second to say that I think Obama is the absolute worse president ever.

      • SAL

        oBampa– disaster– a real dis ASS ter

      • Shasta

        O B A M A

        ONE BIG ASS MISTAKE AMERICA!

        Never ever knew of a Kiss Butt pres, he makes me puke, he is s sneaky conniving theif, LABEL HIM CHICAGO THUG…….HE DESERVES NO RESPECT

      • 45caliber

        THis is one reason I believe Oblama is controlled by others. No respectable cappo would kiss rear-ends the way Oblama does.

      • Lucy

        Like it or not, Barack Obama is our president. He cannot perform miracles and doesn’t seem to get much support from Congress. Is this forum about Mexico invading our country or is it merely another means to bash our president? Have you all forgotten “united we stand, divided we fall”?

        If we’re going to “fight” the Mexicans, we might as well go for the whole country and annex Mexico as our 51st state…

      • 45caliber

        Lucy:

        Do you live in another world? Oblama never gets support from Congress? He may not be getting the support he wants from the GOP but he certainly gets the support he wants from the Dems!!

        I can’t think of any other President who would insist that Congress gives him programs like healthcare without reading the bill – and I can’t think of too many Congressman who would have voted for something they hadn’t read.

      • kate8

        Lucy, I’d be interested to know if you were singing that same song when Bush was President.

      • Jackal

        Hey Robin, I won’t argue Obama is the worst ever. My comment was comparing Carter to Bush.

      • CJ

        Jackal. You haven’t been on here long, have you? You need to get out more and listen to what’s being said outside your own little world.

      • Ken

        Jackal: No, Bush was the SECOND worse. Now he is third.

      • marvin

        Jackel, bush is history he is not in charge now, you do know odumbo was elected in nov 2007,took office in jan 2008 has been in office for 19 months with the help of the dembocrats has blew over 1 trillion dollars more then bush spent in 8 years the year is 2010 and the subject is illegal immigration, arizona, and bush did send 6000 national guard to the border

      • BSHARING

        Jackel, Where have you been? You definitely haven’t been reading then because within months of being in office he was declared the worst President of the US ever!! You can hide your head in the sand all you want to but eventually even you will see it. Whether you are man/woman enough to acknowledge it is another matter. Some people just can’t admit their mistakes.

      • Vicki

        Do you have a link to who claims he is the worst prez? I’m asking cause I be Socialists think he is almost the best.

      • bob555

        Jackel,

        Have you been on other sites, and read any of the comments on them? I have seen hundreds of comments about Obama being the worst president.
        You must selectively read comments, or when one starts to imply that, you stop reading it.

      • kate8

        Jackal, do you live in a vaccuum?

      • 45caliber

        You haven’t been listening very well, have you? I’ve heard of thousands who say the same thing. In fact, I only know of a handful of people in my area who will admit to voting for Oblama. And half of them admit that was a mistake.

        Oblama has spent more borrowed money in his first year that all the previous Presidents combined. He does it in spite of the will of the people he is supposed to be representing. He has belittled America’s position in the world. He has made our military as weak as possible (only Clinton did worse here). He has instituted more Marxist (Communist) goals than any other President. And he still has years to go.

      • james graham

        Hay Jackel, Do you EVER read anything more than the comics in the news paper? If this is the 1st time you have heard about Obama being the worst president ever then I dought it! It is unenformed people like you that should NOT have a right to vote! But thanks to this great nation and the people who have died for Her even idiots can vote!

      • JC

        jackal…we have a new prize winner, he’s a guest from kenya.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Jackassal, seeing this wanker in office stumble at every step, makes me realize what a genius George W. Bush was compared to this guy. Bush ran for office, presented a plan, stated a plan, got elected, executed the plan, did exactly what he said he would do, freed a nation of millions, kept us safe and rebuilt our military and intelligence community that Bill Clinton had torn in half, which by the way, set the table and allowed 9-11 to be set up and pulled off. I miss that Bush guy. The more time passes, and the more stupid things this current admin does, the more happier I am with the way Bush performed. Im pissed they didnt reign in spending as I expected them to, and that was wrong. But everything else was good. In case you didnt know, under Bush, employment was at an alltime high in this country, unemployment was at an alltime low. The stock market was at an alltime high. You probably didnt know, that at Bush’s worst economic markers, it was still higher than Clinton’s highest. Of course you didnt know that, because the liberal democratic press doesnt report good things like that about their “enemy”. But Bush is gone, and has been for quite some time, so get over it, and I promise Ill stop bringing up what a leper Clinton and Obama are in comparison to him. Deal?

      • NM

        I like Bush. I think he was good.

    • Henry Miller

      Sir, the “Dumb Guy” has a clear grasp on the title of worst US President and worst President of any Democracy throughout history. And by the way, while Governor of Texas “Dumb Guy” invited illegals to come into Amurica.

      • meteorlady

        So you live in Texas and know that for a fact? Where’s the link to that? George advocated citizenship – legally. Though I have to admit as President he was more democrat than republican when he advocated amnesty.

        I just saw some pictures of a couple of very large (army size) weapons caches that were just across the Texas border and that scared the crap out of me. There were hundreds of automatic weapons, army weapons, SUV’s full of more weapons, grenades, etc. This was from one of the most violent gangs operating in our country. This is not funny, nor is it a game anymore. If our government does not get off it dead a** and get something done, most of the border states will be taken over.

        My ex-cop friend from LA says the same – that if the Mexicans wanted to take over they could as there is not enough manpower to stop them in that county.

      • Stewie

        That is what happens when the average person cannot own a gun. That is why Obama is working behind the scenes to take our guns away with the help of the U.N. AKA Small Arms Treaty. Hillary already told the U.N. that Obama will back it. In small print, it forbids private ownership of firearms.

      • Vicki

        Good thing for us that we do not have to honor treaties that violate our Constitution.

      • 45caliber

        When the USSR went under, the criminal elements took over control and now run most of Russia. Perhaps the drug dealers expect to do the same thing.

        There is a difference, though. In Mexico and Russia it is forbidden to have private weapons. It isn’t in the US. And most of us are ready. I bought another 350 rounds this weekend just to make sure I’m ready.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        He advocated amnesty trying to reach across the aisle to placate to the democrats to get them to work with him. But they dont reciprocate, so I wouldnt reach across to them. They are snake oil salesman.

      • eddie47d

        This is another problem that wasn’t created by Obama but whether it is fair or not it still has to be solved by Him. Almost all illegals in America today came over under Clinton in his later term and most of Bush’s term. In 2008 when the economy soured the trek into America slowed down quite a bit. That’s why I don’t get mad at Obama for this problem. It’s just common to blame Obama on this site for everything even if he wasn’t in the neighborhood. If the moon turned yellow these people would call it the sun and blame Obama for the color change. That’s why it’s fun to poke fun at them. On the serious side I don’t want any drug smugglers coming in from Mexico or any country. So Federal agents do need to go into this Park and prosecute them. If these same people are dangerous to their own people in their own country then they will not hesitate to do harm here in America.

      • marvin

        eddie47 so you think obama can solve this illegal problum this is the same obama that turned down 13 countrys offering to help clean up the oil spill 3 days after it started, that extorted 20 billion dollars from bp and by his rush to action will put all the off shore oil worker on unemploymet that he extorted another 100 million from bp to pay, if your hero obama had took the help offered in the spill would most likly never have got out of hand, omama want to sue arizona for doing what he refuse,s to do protect our borders what about the cal law on illegals or the missouri law on illegals, obama, holder and nepilotano want to rule by threat and intimidation, i sent the arizona gov a email and ask to donate to their defence fund when it is set up, arizona is right obama is wrong

      • John

        Obama hasn’t been able to solve a damned thing.
        His resume is as thin as the paper it’s written on.

        He’s a community organizer!!!!

      • eddie47d

        Now listen closely,Obama did not extort 20 Billion from BP. It was a problem created by BP and has to be solved by BP. Let’s hope that 20 billion is enough,for anything over that amount will come out of the taxpayers hide.So let’s see who’s side you are really on.

      • JeffH

        They must really love Obama in the gulf…
        NAVARRE, Fla. – Barack Obama had a close encounter of the eligibility kind today as his motorcade drove past an electronic billboard here on Highway 98 asking the question, “Where’s the birth certificate?”

      • JC

        eddie, it was a shakedown run by Chicago mobsters.
        Do I feel sorry for BP? No…do I think the Kenyan and Co. are in any way effective? No.
        The Kenyan should sit down shut up and let the Engineers do their job.

      • NM

        I don’t think BP created this, I think it was created by an ecoterrist. It is worse then expected but not as bad as wanted. It came to soon on the heels of nobama saying he would open up for more drilling. And I think he knew it would happen.

      • james graham

        Eddie47d, are you and Jackel bed fellows? You sound like it blameing Bush for the world problems. Have you gone outside lately? It’s 2010 and we have a new president(and I use that term lightly). As much as everyone waits to blame Bush for everything thats wrong in this country Obama is now in comand and our bourders are being invaded NOW not in 2009,2008,2007,2006, and so on! By obama sitting on his butt and not doing ANYTHING to protect our boarders it is HIS fault, NOT Bush or anyone elses! Obamas ONLY!! AND NO 3000 troops to do paper work is NOT secureing our boarder!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Some guy down the street from me keeps running the damn stop sign. I know its Bush’s fault, and I wonder what him and Cheney and Halliburton are going to do about it? I mean, its got to be Bush’s fault right? I mean everything else is according the left wing liberal pacifist appeasing democrats.

      • Allan

        What the hell do you think the job of President is? It is mostly dealing with existing problems. Don’t take the job if you can’t solve problems! Stop making excuses for a man who excels in blaming others while being incapable of actual leadership. I don’t think this guy could get a regular, non-affirmative action job.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        He is a community organizer, ie, a rabble rouser. He exists to stir up trouble.

    • JeffH

      CHUCKY, you’re correct…Carter is one rung above Obama now.

  • Pamela Dale

    Not only is Obama not a leader, he is a sitting president who actions are hostile to the sovereignty of the U.S. He should be brought up on charges of treason.

    • Rosey

      Yay YOU! Finally, someone GUTSY enough to use the T word for the TRAITOR that he is. Oh, but then, how can one be a traitor by being illegally elected without a valid U.S. Birth Certificate? I guess that makes him just a common thug running our country into the ground!

      • kate8

        Rosey, I have been continually stating that, not only Obama, but every member of this administration, Congress and the Supreme Court who has helped to cover for this imposter is guilty of HIGH TREASON.

        To do nothing is to be complicit.

      • eddie47d

        Unless you have absolute proof then YOU are complicite. Do you slander your new friends and anybody else with innuendos. Nobody is guilty of anything unless there is proof and that makes you dangerous with all your assumptions.

      • Al Sieber

        eddie47d, the proof is the borders are wide open, criminals are pouring in terrorizing citizens, Obama is president, not Bush, the Gov. and the people of Ariz. are asking for help and Obama does nothing. what more proof do you need?

      • JC

        Obama is using the border issue as a political chip to be played at a later date. SOB cares not at all about criminal insurgency into American soil. He and Allah are doing their best to kill all of us infidels. Folks, we need to take a serious stand and the Kenyan can lead follow or get out of the way…but we must take action.

      • JeffH

        kate8… “The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, BRIBERY, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.”

        Major General Paul Vallely, Lt. Colonel Terrence Lakin, LCDR Walter Francis Fitzpatrick, III

        No matter the political agenda of any American citizen, one reality should send shivers down every American’s spine. The Obama administration has made it known that according to their form of “justice,” NO soldier or citizen has “legal standing” to question anything about Obama, his many corrupt friends, his anti-American policies or his full court press to destroy all things American.
        Barack Hussein Obama remains a complete mystery. His birth, college, travel, passport and entire personal history remains under lock and key unlike any president before him. His policies have proven destructive to the US economy, US sovereignty and security as well as both states and individual rights.
        The Obama administration is operating like a pure dictatorship at odds with the vast majority of American citizens and no matter what peaceful course of redress the people attempt, they have repeatedly been informed that they have “NO STANDING” to ask any questions.

        http://www.ImpeachObamaCampaign.com

      • kate8

        JeffH, excellent post, as usual.

        You just can’t reason with liberals who have their eyes and ears covered when it comes to Obama. They just hate being confused by the facts.

  • john

    Now i have heard it all! Is this true,how can this be happening? Mexican military on US soil! This is an act of war! Arizona is under siege! All freedom loving americans should get there rifles ,go to Sierra Vista and put these invaders down! If they mean to have a war let it begin here.

    • Jackal

      Yeah, let’s have a war where freedom loving Americans can combine a vacation to the Grand Canyon with picking off a few Mexicans to make the holiday video more interesting. A travel agency could create an itinerary to include gun rentals and other necessary equipment (white sheets etc,).

      • Bill

        Ignorant FOOL!

      • jeffrey raymond

        Muslims with terrorist training camps in America, Obama does nothing! Mexicans invading the southern borders like a line of ants walking across like it was nothing, unopposed in the least, obama does nothing! We start losing our America soil, the borders slowing being moved north, property stolen, kidnapping, murder, theft, crime, drug and illegal trafficing and again this lousy lying traitor to the oath to defend America from foreign and domestic enemies is an impeachable offense. Not even mentioning the fraud and bribery. IF our corrupt government can’t protect us then we real Americans must take up arms to protect and defend ourselves. Now Obama wants to sue Az? Isn’t that amazing and it sure tells you where his allegence lies. This administration agenda is to destroy America. Say what you will about Bush but we never had any attacks on our soldiers,or on our country until the muslim obama stole, lied, and bought his way into the WH.
        Obama has to go, impeach this bast@#d before he ruins us. WE have proof his is ineligable and have enough to rid ourselves of this POS so why do we continue to tolerate the domestic enemy in the white house? It’s clear to everyone what his plan is and it’s not to save American jobs, healthcare or its people. IT’s to bankrupt, devalue the dollar, play the race card, blame the previous administration, deny deny deny any questions of inproprities. America will never surrender our guns. We have a right to defend ourselves against foreign aggression, including the foreign armed troops obama installed on Nato troops on American soil. I asked one why he was here. ANSWER? TO CONTAIN, CONTROL, AND CROWD DISPERSMENT. AMERICA, WAKE UP WE ARE INCHES FROM A CIVIL WAR, MARSHALL LAW AND IMPRISONMENT OF THOSE WHO OPPOSE THIS ADMINISTRATION.

        Spendin

      • marylee

        all I have to say….AMEN to the comments you made! What is it going to take to IMPEACH this idiot! USA is going to ruin in a hurry with him in the White House – time for a clean sweep – all his cazars and any one connected with him! We need to let Arizona know we are behind them 100%.

      • JC

        Well said.
        This is about our last warning.

      • larry

        “…. including the foreign armed troops obama installed on Nato troops on American soil. I asked one why he was here. ANSWER? TO CONTAIN, CONTROL, AND CROWD DISPERSMENT. ” please elaborate – WHERE are there NATO troops on US soil??????? i can NOT believe this ! ! ! ! ! in the unbelievable event that this is true, the impostor has gone TOO FAR ! ! EVERY citizen, including the liberals and dems, should be OUTRAGED and on the phone to ALL their elected reps DEMANDING that NATO troops be sent OFF these shores IMMEDIATELY ! ! can you spell O U T R A G E D ?? ? ? ? GGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrr

      • bp

        jeffrey: “contain, control & crowd dispursement” NATO troops? What this administration wants is civil unrest to impose martial law. Put away your guns. We must remain peaceful. Our power lies in the ballot box.

      • http://yahoo.com marc

        Impeach muslimbama,pelosi,clintons,reid,kerrys,bidens,in fact how about the entire democratic and republican parties. Charges to include corruption,incompetance,treason and they cannot be protected by legal malpractice.

      • JeffH

        Impeach, expel Barack Obama

        sign A PETITION for:
        The Impeachment of Senator Barack Obama
        TO THE CONGRESS OF THE UNITED STATES

        http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/obamaimpeachment/

      • Ted Crawford

        I see you are aware of EO-13524! That is a scarey thing! Isn’t it?

      • http://CedingArizonatoMexico “Warrior”

        Methinks you are talking about Jackall and yes he is.

      • http://YAHOO PATSY WEICK

        BILL ARE YOU AN AMERICAN? DOUGTHFUL NOT A TRUE ONE. WHAT DO YOU THINK OUR FORE-FATHERS FOUGHT & DIED FOR? WE HELP EVERYONE ELSE BUT WHO IS HELPING US? IF WE DON’T WHO WILL. GO FOR IT JACKAL, IF MY DAD WERE ALIVE HE WOULD MEET YOU ALL THEIR. WW2 HERO. MY DAD ALWAYS SAID!
        IT WILL BE A COLD DAY IN HELL WHEN ANYONE WOULD EVER TAKE HIS GUNS AWAY IT WOULD ALSO HAVE TO BE OUT OF HIS COLD CLAMY HANDS. I’M PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN. OUR RIGHTS ARE GOING TO HELL IN A HAND BASKET & OBAMA IS HELPING TAKE THEM AWAY, FOOD FOR THOUGHT AS OF YESTERDAY THE MUSLIMS OUT NUMBER US BY 90% AND WHAT IS OBAMA??? NOT AN AMERICAN. HE WON’T HELP US WHAT HE PROCLAMS & WHAT HE SAYS & WHAT HE IS DOING NOTHING… YOU HAD BEST WAKE UP & DIE RIGHT, JUST DON’T TAKE THE REST OF YOUR COUNTRY WITH YOU. THINK IT OVER MY FRIEND. THEIR IS A LOT OF US IGNORATE PEOPLE OUT HERE BUT STUPID WERE ARE NOT. JACKAL I WOULD JOIN YOU ALL IF I COULD BUT HEALTH PREVENT’S IT. BID-A-WAY WHERE WAS OUR AMERICAN FLAG, IN THE WHITE HOUSE WHEN OB HAD A PRESS COMFRAMANCE??? OUT BEING CLEANED? JUST ALITTLE MORE FOOD FOR THOUGHT.
        REMEMBER THE ALAMO. GOD BLESS AMERICA.
        PATSY WEICK

      • eddie47d

        Not necessarily, It could be just another one of those black helicopter stories or death camp stories. Now take a deep breath!

      • eddie47d

        We know how this site loves those conspiracy theories JC.

      • Angel

        Didn’t you here Mr Ed…it is no longer a conspiracy theory…it has become fact! Do some research!

      • Al Sieber

        Hey eddie47d, define a conspiracy theory? it has 3 parts. it’s easy to throw that argument around when you’re ignorant. I stand with JC, at least he does his research.

      • JC

        No theories eduardo…just facts. Are you able to correlate facts into a “thought”? Apparently not if it doesn’t suit your ant hill mentality.
        Most of the folks around here who don’t identify with ACORN are very much able to correlate hard information…you, unfortunately lack that ability.

      • Ted Crawford

        eddie, please explain EO-13524!

      • JC

        Hey Jack@$$ This is serious.

      • barb m

        he didn’t say he wanted to go there and pick off mexicans. he said go tereand spend money to make up for the boycotts. what an idiot.

      • http://CedingArizonatoMexico “Warrior”

        Ok Jackall,

        Just what would your suggestion be. Lay down and let the Mexicans take our land from us?

      • 45caliber

        There is one thing about giving the Mexicans this route and land. You can bet none of the legal Mexicans are there.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        The way its looking, someday soon we will be playing Cowboy and Mexicans, and the Cowboys are going to kick some serious butt.

      • Joe K

        Sounds like a great idea to me, accept that part about renting guns. When you get your travel agency started up, you can advertise it this way: “All invader guns are the automatic property of the person who shoots the invader.”

        No, I really am not that big a moron. I just thought I would see if I could get a rise out of someone who is.

    • CJ

      They’re taking a page right out of our history books. Just walk in and “squat” where you want. Keep it remote enough, and the government has to decide between the right thing and the easy thing. When the right thing is too hard, the opposing force wins. Little by little, the take over happens. To be successful, we need a massive offensive to take care of it quickly, but our liberal friends consider that too aggressive, so governments have to take the slow, less productive, and most costly approach. If someone needs to be offended from our actions, let it be the liberals so we can get the job done and over with.

      • Henry Miller

        But sir, we are the World’s most liberal country. But we have had regions that were very conservative. For example the Old South. I believe that’s where the tea baggers want to take our country back – TO.

        BTW, all successful country’s are liberal.

      • Rabbitman

        Define “successful country”. Until this administration and in spite of the periods of liberal domination in congress, WE were the most successful country, built upon conservative principles. The liberal, Socialist, left-leaning European countries are hardly successful. The entire world is in financial and social disarray. The source of the collapse can be directly attributed to the “Progressive” mindset. Now we have joined them and they are gleeful about it. The adage “misery loves company” still applies.

      • bp

        Agreed, Rabbitman; “Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy” and shared misery. -Winston L.S. Churchill

      • http://personallibertydigest Dave

        Like Greece………..

      • Bill

        You have that worded wrong, it’s the Tea Party. Teabaggers would be you and your homo friends.

      • Rabbitman

        Typical, uninformed, and immature.

      • marvin

        Henry Miller i don,t know any tea bagger i am sure a homosexual like you have someone one tea bagging you, tea party people don,t do sick acts

      • kate8

        Really, Henry?

        How is it, then, that the most bankrupt states are also the most liberal ones? The same goes true for cities.

        Conversely, the most conservative ones are the most solvent.

      • http://LiberttyDigest Bruce D.

        Good point!

      • JeffH

        California for instance? Once touted as the sixth largest economy in the world…now a pittance…

      • 45caliber

        Liberals are proponents of “change”. Conservatives are not against change; they are against untested change.

        What we prefer to do is keep what we KNOW works okay while we tweak it a little. If it doesn’t work, we can immediately go back to what we had and no one is particularly harmed. If it does work, then we will continue to apply it cautiously until we totally satisfied with the change.

        The Liberals simply want to change for change’s sake – usually because someone had a new idea. If it works, good. If it doesn’t work, then it’s time to try another idea – even if it has already been proven to fail in the past. You must keep changing. And if people are harmed – well, oh well. “Sacrifices must be made.”

      • kate8

        45, Actually, the change liberals are after (communism/Marxism/socialism) is WELL PROVEN. To be a disaster!

        They just never learn. It’s the dream of something for nothing. The problem is, it just doesn’t work.

      • 45caliber

        kate8:

        It is the dream of Utopia where everyone has everything they need and no one has to work except at what they wish to do. In the ideal utopia, some would want to plant and some would want to herd and some would want to paint, etc. Rather than pay for something you would just get whatever you wished automatically – by robots perhaps. Their utopia never gets into the real delivery system. If you want a painting you simply let the painter know. If you need meat, you simply let the butcher know. You never lack anything you want. That allows you to do whatever you want whenever you want.

        It is a nice ideal – but they NEVER think it completely through. In their utopia, everyone is generous and kind. No one would EVER consider taking something someone else had. If you really wanted something you would simply ask and they would give it to you – even if it was a one-of-a-kind item they wanted themselves. There would be no marriage and if you wanted sex with someone, it would be given without question or argument. Love wouldn’t exist except as a general love-everybody type of thing. No one would want power simply because everyone would have whatever they wanted.

        It’s a type of psychosis the psychologists try to treat, usually unsuccessfully.

      • http://naver samurai

        Sorry dude, but it is a fact in history that the most liberal of nations are also the most immoral, unethical, and are always the ones that fall in the end? Take a look at the Roman Empire. When they stood by their convictions, they were strong and invincible. Once they got away from that, it was divided into the East and West Roman Empire. The East stayed the ways of right and the West did not. What happened? The West Roman Empire was conquered by barbarians and Rome was sacked in 474A.D. by the Vandals. Do you think this country, under Obama bin Laden, is the West or East Roman Empire? The East Roman Empire eventually became known as the Byzantine Empire, the first christian nation on the earth. We may be the West now, but we will become the East Roman Empire this coming 2012! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Ted Crawford

        Let’s make take a serious step in that direction much sooner than that!!! On November 2, 2010!!!!!

      • http://GOGGLE vaksal

        OH YES YOU Are so right! you self serving blind person,so liberal that bill clinton gave away the worlds largest economy and got laid in the presidential office and what a score,young intern,better yet rented out rooms in the white house to asian lobbyist from china,get a real life,this time around the american voters are going to have a field day chopping heads off in the political arena and guess what all the folks that are unemployed and madder than hornets are going to send all the folks that commited this treason againist the american peoples liberties and jobs,are going to be real liberal in the way they get payback against these traitors,in every level of government,and they will all be full blown astronauts when they get thrown out their office windows by the angry voters of this whole nation and guess what henry miller,their will be hundreds of thousands of unemployed democrats too,that have seen the jobs they once had given away to the whole world and yes ,the horse pop is going to hit the fan,so all you liberals best get your last wishes in order because this is it for the evil done to every citizen in this nation,( THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA) NOT THE( BANANA REPUBLIC OF AMERICA.WAKE UP TIME IS COMING TO ALL THE STATES OF THIS GREAT REPUBLIC AND MAY GOD BLESS THIS NATION ALWAYS.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        WE are the most successful country in the world sir, and we are not liberal. You may be, and your left wing democrat heroes are, but we are going to find out in 2012 just how many liberals there are, and its not going to be many. Liberalism is what is hurting this country. Liberalism is rampant homo-sexualism, drug abuse, government handouts, crime, killing babies in the womb, giving enemy terrorists lawyers to defend them, imprisoning our own soldiers for fighting for us. Liberalism is a deadly virus that needs illiminated, or it will consume and destroy this whole country. Liberalism practices appeasement sir, and if you check it out, everytime appeasement has been practiced, it has resulted in defeat. Now put down your crack pipe and go pick up your unemployment check. I worked overtime this week, so your probably getting a little extra.

      • eddie47d

        What! I thought you were talking about the American Indian until I read further. Didn’t we squat on their land and they didn’t move fast enough so we killed them!

      • Conservative at Birth

        Ignorant Fool./

      • http://naver samurai

        That’s an old arguement! Get some new material!

      • Convet

        Typical Soros CAP plant. Ignore. He’ll go away. He isn’t smart enough.

    • William

      if we had a president instead of an imposter we would allready have had troops on the border and possibly in mexico. then on the other hand we wouldn’t neeed to because IF we did have a president calderon wouldn’t run his mouth as he does because we would allready have troops on the border,

      • Kinetic1

        Before you blame this all on President Obama, note that Bob is always quick to note that this problem started years ago. These drug lords did not wait to start there assault until the last election results were in, it’s been a growing issue for several administrations. So before you claim that it’s all the liberal’s fault, ask you selves “where were the Reagen or Bush troops?”

      • bob555

        How about the 8 years Clinton was in office?

      • james graham

        There they go again! It’s all Bush’s fault! You know if I was a Liberal I could blame Bush for the worms that got to my peashes.But sence I’m a conservitave I guess I should have sprayed them earlier! Yes until it benifits them they tend to forget about the 8 years we had Clinton and I guess they don’t WANT too remember that the last 2 years of Bush being in office DEM. controlled both houses! Why couldn’t they pass bills then if Bush was so bad for this country? But that’s the way a liberal see it. It’s ALWAYS someone elses fault!

      • JC

        I didn’t bother to read it…did they manage to call anyone a racist?

      • eddie47d

        So true Bob but this comment is for James (up next). Obama has been in office 1 1/2years and everything gets blamed on him. If they don’t then they totally skip over the Bush years and attack Clinton.It’s kind of weird how people think. If Bush caused it then blame him,if Clinton did it then blame him,if Obama started something you dislike then lay it on him. Obama did not create the immigration mess,or the Iraq War,or the housing downfall,or the corruption on wall street,or even jobs leaving America. Yet everyone on this site blames him for problems he did not create. They are the cowards. It is now time for all Americans to stand behind Obama and help him repair all the damage done by others. If Healthcare turns out to be devestating to this country then the history books will not be kind to him for that was his baby. He will be blamed for that or anything else he puts his signature on.

      • JeffH

        fast eddie…knock knock…who’s there?…nobody…nobody who?…nobody that buys the crap you’re selling anymore!

        Real Americans are speaking out against this Marxist Obama you worship so much. It must be terrible to start sinking and feeling a new low after the temporary POTUS HIGH you’ve been experiencing for the last year +. Nothing worse than a heavy duty crash after such a euphoric high. Huh?

      • Vicki

        We don’t need to ask. We live in the here and now. Here is US. Now is 2010. The pres elect is OBAMA. The buck stops HERE and NOW with OBAMA. He has a chance to deal with the problem in a decisive and effective manner. Were he truly the leader people claim he would not complain that Reagan or Bush (either of them) or even Clinton didn’t fix the problem. He would fix the problem.

        Alas as so many of us noticed by his actions with respect to BP Oil, his campaign, his obamacare etc, he is not a leader and may well be just a follower of someones agenda.

      • Allan

        Nothing Obama’s predecessors did has anything to do with him hurting America. How much dishonesty and incompetence do you need to see before you recognize it?

      • eddie47d

        How much Bush/Cheney dishonesty and incompentence did we have to tolerate? I couldn’t resist! Obama is responsible for anything he puts his signature on.

      • JeffH

        fast eddie…Bush/Cheney, Bush/Cheney, Bush/Cheney, Bush/Cheney, Bush/Cheney….it’s over johnny, it’s over…get used to it…

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Ok fast Eddie, back to Obama putting his signature on things, and you say those are his fault. Ok, here we go. They moved the drilling rig into the gulf and started drilling Feb. 2010. Obama had been president over a year, and this rig was moved in under his watch, and began drilling on his watch. Its his signature, its his fault, according to your own words. Question is, why is he standing on his pedestal pointing fingers and placing blame, instead of being a part of the solution? Because that is all they know. It got them elected, and that is all they have done since getting into office. Point fingers and place blame. How about a bit of leadership for a change? Not going into a back room behind closed doors and ramrodding a health care system down the throat of America that only 35 percent wanted. Sorry, but these wankers are under qualified for the job, and they have proven again and again, they have no idea of what to do. Look at them. Its pathetic.

      • Al Sieber

        Kinetic 1, quit blaming past administrations, what we have now is the excuse filled presidency of Barrack Obama, also known as “the Whiny Little Bitc#”.

      • http://naver samurai

        Bush, baaaaa! Reagan, baaaaa! Can we get some new material? A real birth certificate would be nice!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Bush/Cheney/Halliburton. Its as old and worn out as the race card. Can we get back to reality and accepting responsibility for our own actions without blaming someone else please.

    • Billie

      I for one say ask Governor to activate a core of civilian militia volunteers to defend our borders with the national guard to issue weapons and protective armor ,I am ready to do my part. Just think how many of us retirees swore an oath to defend this country and constitution many years ago and are ready to do it again.

      Mrs Billie

      • Dennis

        Amen Brother, thats the only way, we must defend our country as you can see our government will not. Well atleast this one with the MUSLIM leader.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Im 51, soon to be 52, and Ill go down there and fight to protect our homeland, as will millions of others like me. Question is, how long is the government going to get in the way of us defending our country? Here Arizona is trying, and the federal government led by the Muslim Kenyan is getting in the way. Its getting messy.

  • s c

    Does anyone not understand that Mr. Obama is anything but a leader? What will it take for America to admit that Mr. Obama couldn’t care less about protecting the rights of ANY state – let alone Arizona?
    How can anyone not yet see that we have an imposter in the White House? He’s a fifth-rate magician and a flimflammer who deserves no one’s respect. He has no respect for America, and I have no respect for him or anyone like him.
    I no longer live in Arizona, yet I feel Arizona’s outrage for this one-man disgrace who acts as though being America’s worst prez is akin to a universal merit badge. It is too late for Mr. Obama to apologize and ask for forgiveness. It is time for a progressive’s progressive to do the unthinkable.
    Do what RMN did, Mr. Obama. Resign, Mr. Obama. Go somewhere else, Mr. Obama. You’ve EARNED your place in history.

    • C S

      I agree, but I must say it sends chills down my spine and makes me sick to my stomach when I hear “President” in front of Obama’s name, and I can’t say “Mr.” as freely as you do, since I have NO respect for this abomination to our country. I don’t think I could refer to him as “Dumb A**” – this would be confusing, since their are so many in congress any more, so I think I am just going to start refering to him as “Commi” since this is what he has been forcing on our people. And I did say “our people”, because we are NOT the Commi’s people. I do live in Arizona, raised my children here and they all still live here. We really do love our State, and WE WANT IT BACK!!! THE COMMI HAS TO GO – IF YOU NEED A VOTE FROM THE PEOPLE – MY VOTE IS TWO THUMBS UP FOR IMMEDIATE TERMINATION AND REMOVAL FROM THIS POSITION. Maybe if the Commi were fired, he would better understand why so many are so angree about the unemployment rates – they say the unemployment rates are getting better, that’s only because they are only publicizing the “newly” unemployed, they are not counting the unemployed whom have been on the roles for over a certain number of days, nor are they including the unemployed whose unemployment ran out and was forced on welfare to feed their children. I want to know where the COMMI has planned to put all the SOUP LINES? The bad thing is: almost no one can prepare for the next economic title wave, their is no money to stock food (even if it weren’t illegal), food hording is illegal, refering to illegals as “Immigrants” is forbidden by the COMMI, The COMMI wants to take our guns – and if he can’t get them he is going to tax them on an annual bases, he sent troops to help at the boarder but only to do paper work on behalf of the illegal “aliens”, COMMI wants to just give them all SS cards from our United States so that they are no longer illegal (they all already have had a free pass to rape, pillage, steal, etc. why should we give them a license to do the same?) I am part native american, and just the other day I received a small figureen that said “We were free until we stopped fighting, now no one has freedom” – Chief Tawonka. Not only do we NOT have any freedoms – but now we have servitude and slavery forced upon us by individuals whom someone else put into office (I don’t believe COMMI really got the “people’s” vote)and the COMMI has placed other like minded COMMI thinking individuals in to his cabinet, congress, supreme court, etc. We are surrounded, who is going to fight if we don’t. We MUST get the COMMI’s out of public office and into prison where they belong! They are an abomination of what “We The People” of the “United States” stand for!!!!!

      • kate8

        There may yet be hope on the horizon.

        VERY QUIETLY OBAMA’S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES THE SUPREME COURT

        AP – WASHINGTON D.C. -
        In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama’s qualifications for the presidency, the group “Americans for Freedom of Information” has Released copies of President Obama’s college transcripts from Occidental College. Released today, the transcript school indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.
        This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama’s detractors have been seeking. Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya and there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship, this is looking pretty grim. The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about Obama’s legitimacy and qualification to serve as President article titled, “Obama Eligibility Questioned,” leading some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama’s first official visit to the U.K. In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups, Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama’s legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey. This lawsuit claims Obama’s dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. Donofrio’s case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding proof of Obama’s citizenship or qualification to serve as president.

        Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama’s campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still ongoing but that the final report will be provided to the U..S. Attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused to comment on the matter…

        LET OTHER FOLKS KNOW THIS NEWS, THE MEDIA WON’T !

        Subject: RE: Issue of Passport?

        While I’ve little interest in getting in the middle of the Obama birth issue, Paul Hollrah over at FSM did so yesterday and believes the issue can be resolved by Obama answering one simple question: What passport did he use when he was shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and Karachi ?

        So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June 1981, without the price of a hotel room in his pocket, suddenly come up with the price of a round-the-world trip just a month later?

        And once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York , Jakarta , and Karachi , what passport was he offering when he passed through Customs and Immigration?

        The American people not only deserve to have answers to these questions, they must have answers. It makes the debate over Obama’s citizenship a rather short and simple one.

        Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?
        A : Yes, by his own admission.

        Q: What passport did he travel under?
        A: There are only three possibilities.
        1) He traveled with a U.S… Passport,
        2) He traveled with a British passport, or
        3) He traveled with an Indonesia passport.

        Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981?
        A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S… State Department’s “no travel” list in 1981.

        Conclusion: When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a British passport or an Indonesian passport.

        If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide proof that he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he claims. And if he were traveling with an Indonesian passport that would tend to prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held, British or American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian step-father in 1967.

        Whatever the truth of the matter, the American people need to know how he managed to become a “natural born” American citizen between 1981 and 2008..

        Given the destructive nature of his plans for America, as illustrated by his speech before Congress and the disastrous spending plan he has presented to Congress, the sooner we learn the truth of all this, the better.

        If you Don’t care that Your President is not a natural born Citizen and in Violation of the Constitution, then Delete this, and then lower your American Flag to half-staff, because the U.S. Constitution is already on life-support, and won’t survive much longer.

        If you do care then Forward this to as many patriotic Americans

        Check this out. This is huge. Let’s all pray the SCOTUS does the right thing!

      • Airangel

        Woohoo! I won’t hold my breath though that Holder will do the right thing! He’s probably already knows OB is not eligible and is groaning that he might be forced into doing something against “the elitist plan”…

      • kate8

        This, along with the recent revelation that NO birth certificate exists in Hawaii, and that Obama was definitely NOT born in Hawaii…

        The mask of Barack Obama is falling off, and little Barry Soetoro is emerging…

        Barack Obama is being exposed for the illusion he is, nothing but an empty suit placed in front of a teleprompter and hyped by media.

        I have a feeling that things are about to take a turn our way. I had a dream last night that I haven’t quite figured out yet. Then, this morning, I heard a man who has accurately predicted many events, say that God is intervening in America. He said that he saw bad legislation being overturned, and leaders having change of heart. He said that it would appear that things are going bad for awhile, but this year or next, things will begin to reverse. He said that the SCOTUS will also come around.

        This is what we need to hold in our minds and hearts. The first step is pulling back the curtain and shining light onto what has been hidden. Then we can begin to change it through our focused determination. We will take back all that is being stolen, including our land.

      • Gordon DeSpain

        Airangel,

        Duly forwarded to my Email list, along with instructions, “Heed, Act, and, Forward to your Email lists.”

      • Denniso

        You people are such willing dupes…that ‘AP story’ is an email hoax. You hate Obama so much that you are willing to believe anything that any kook puts on the internet…I imagine the next will be that Obama is an alien from Venus w/ secret powers designe to vaporize the entire earth and sell the residue to an alien sand and gravel company…come on folks, stop the childish hysteria, it’s getting more ridiculous every day.

      • JC

        Denniso…if it’s a hoax, then answer the question.
        Who’s passport was he flying around on?
        And here’s another one…Why was he in a California school as a foreign exchange student named Barry Soetoro?
        And why so many social security numbers?

        The only hoax here is Barry himself.

      • Denniso

        You’re quoting more lies to support the hoax email. Do something productive and helpful to society and quit following and wasting your mind and time on all these lies being intentionally spread by Obama haters…

      • larry

        that is the BEST news i have read since the last pres election. i am so happy i cud just s++t.

      • yougottabekidding

        Please…can we at least see something original.

        http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/occidental.asp

      • kate8

        yougot…Just can’t handle the truth, can you?

        You prefer to rely on a self-proclaimed “authority” like Snopes. Snopes is just a couple operating from their living room, working with the leftist agenda.

        Some people are just so easy. You just accept sites like “Snopes” without even asking whereby they get their all-knowing insight.

        LOL. People like you are dangerous.

      • http://LiberttyDigest Bruce D.

        I think Obama is ruining this country but I believe that is a contrieved e-mail that has been circulating for a long time.

      • http://LiberttyDigest Bruce D.

        I should also add that I believe Snoopes is totally left wing.

      • http://naver samurai

        Have we been drinking the kool aid today? If you support Obama bin Laden on this, I really feel sorry for you. Soon the hand of God will decend on Washington and clean house. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • kate8

        Bruce D, the release date for the article is May 24, 2010.

        The Supreme Court was scheduled to hear this case in June (or July?), can’t quite recall. That would be about now. Of course, the media has been ignoring this all along.

        And Columbia U didn’t release Obama’s phoney records until very recently.

        For these reasons I assume the article is timely.

      • JC

        Bruce the email is not contrived. They’re simply facts.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        In case any of you are interested in the truth, Snopes is a man and his wife that say whether things are true or not. Its a fact. Its a guy and his wife, so if they have an agenda one way or the other, they can tweak their answers to fit it. I have caught them red handed in lying about things in the past, whether intentional or not, but if your supposed to be the ones who enlighten people on whether something is true or not, you cant spew your opinion and ignore the facts as they have done with some things in the past. Barry Soetore became Barrack Hussein Obama, and it doesnt take a wise man to figure that one out. Thats all Im saying.

      • JeffH

        kate8, good post. Although not the highest on my priority list I’m sure it will play out eventually and the real “cat” will be let out of the bag. Too many questions and too many people asking them…there has to be indisputable evidence and if ti’s out there it will eventually surface. Let us hope that evidence wiil come to fruition nd this phony no baloney imposter gets prosecuted to the full extent of the law and everyone involve with him likewise.

        By the way, Beck was all over exposing and linking the Soros/NWO, Petrobras, Obama, BP, John Podesta/Tony Podesta, Cap & Trade, connections today…he was in classic form today.

      • kate8

        JeffH, Yes, I watch Glenn every day. He’s been doing some great work exposing the criminal behavior of this administration and their handlers.

        I just have a feeling things are about to take a turn. Not that things might not get ugly for awhile, but for us, failure is not an option.

      • http://naver samurai

        Hello, JeffH! It’s been awhile. I just want to warn all of you that we may see the return of smilee. He seems to be in bed with Norm these days. I don’t care what they say, just want to warn everyone. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • Jana

        JeffH,
        I have been watching him too. He is a Great American! And, he is doing a thankless and a dangerous job.
        I have to laugh at all of these lefty liberals who get on these posts and TRY to tell us that we are promoting a Revolution with violence. We see that is the Communists way of doing things. These are the ones promoting a violent revolution.

      • http://naver samurai

        You can count on my support and prayers! Let’s send the libs, atheists, and commies that are destroying this country that we want our country back! Thank you for telling this information, Kate8! My prayers are also for you and yours. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY! Let’s get back to the ways of our founding fathers and not the whims of the spineless libs, dems, and bleeding hearts in Washington. VICTORY IN THE NAME OF GOD!

      • J.Micheal

        OK,I see you think that getting current president,Barak Obama-Barry- whatever, out of office is going to fix the immigration problem. That is what this discussion is about,right? Let me reread the article,hmmm,yep. I’d like for you to explain that,since this problem didn’t just start to happen when he got elected. I’m not defending him,but the past presidents are just as QUILTY as he is for not dealing with this problem. The past president didn’t solve this issue either. If the Arizona law is a mirror of current Federal law then money is being wasted on taking it to court. The war on drugs isn’t working either,which is what is bringing the violence not someone who just comes looking for work, so how much money has been wasted on that joke of a program?!?!? Thinking that our congresspeople work for us is very naive(refer VOID1972,also)most work on a personal/political agenda, doing just enough to get the votes to stay in power until they get rich(Evan Bayh).Yeah, used his influence to get his wife on 6 insurance companies boards,calls himself a democrat,but votes republican. Go figure?

      • kate8

        After doing more research, it does appear that the Supremes won’t be hearing this case.

        “Hoax” may not be altogether correct, in that several petitions have gone to the Supremes for a hearing on this issue. They have been denied after a visit from Obama and his goons. I do recall earlier this year, Justices Scalia and Thomas agreed to hear the case, and it was scheduled for June or July. I’ve heard no more since then.

        Somehow, it seems that the issue just went away. At any rate, accoding to what I could find out online, the case is not being heard.
        But that is the only part of the article that is lacking in accuracy.

        You have my humblest apologies.

      • JeffH

        kate8…never let an opportunity go to waste…the questions regarding Obama won’t go away, even after he’s forced to resign.

      • LT

        There’s also the problem of obama using a false identity. at one point he went by soeto and with no records on file for a legal name change, (that can be found) he decided to become obama. It’s fraudulent to use a false identity – more so when it’s done to take the office of a senator or the presidency. I know it’s minor compared to the birth question but it’s another nail in the coffin to be added to the “not born in America” problem. The Constitution says the president must be a citizen – and kagan says the constitution is “flexible” (of course she changes what she remembers saying from day to day) so this SC Judge might come in handy should obama’s citizenship problem come before the SC. Of course, IMHO anything he’s done while in office becomes illegal and must be reversed – healthcare, firing McCrystal, naming 2 SC Justices, etc all become illegal acts. This birther question has far reaching potential….

      • 2930

        We Can’t Beleve all that we read because…..’Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rapidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.’
        There is no clean end Lets get rid of the ellegels and protect out own borders!

      • Michael O

        AMEN! Didn’t our soldiers in past wars die fighting people like the
        communists and the Nazis? And yet, that’s exactly the type of government we’re seeing in this country now! Remember what the Russian premier of the ’60′s said? “We will bury you!……Economically, of
        course!” Apparently some have not learned from the past. We are seeing
        those words come to light now. Only the Lord Jesus can help any of us now.

      • Conservative at Birth

        Do you mean Nikita Kruschev? Who actually said they would bury us from within. Then: the Russians set up schools to educate their citizenry to think and act American, to infiltrate the media, entertainment, and ecucational system in the U.S. Looks like they have been partiially successful, doesn’t it?

      • Millicent

        We should be calling him Sahib, not president!! I think he should be charged with TREASON & exiled, along with his administration.

      • JC

        To charge him with Treason he’s have to ne an American.
        Perhaps arresting him as a foreign spy would be more appropriate.

      • http://www.productivitysystems.com Steve Thompson

        In a nation based upon the “rule of law” there should be no debate as to whether that rule of law should apply equally to all. The furor over illegal immigrants is well founded – expected, in fact. We should all be able to expect each member of our society to pull his own weight, and to abide by that rule of law.

        To have elected a president who has gained office outside those laws of our nation that govern who can become President is not acceptable.

        If our nation is, indeed, governed by the “rule of law”, and if the requirement that a U S President must have been born in the U S, is an important founding principle, shame on us for failing to thoroughly vet each candidate prior to the election to assure that the principle was properly met!

        One by one, the principles upon which our nation was conceived have been eroded until, in its third century, we’ve become so “politically correct” that, for all intents and purposes, those founding principles no longer exist. The question is: “What are we going to do about this?”

        Our nation was founded by engineers – not by attorneys, yet who do we now choose to run our nation? Engineers, who are schooled on how to make and fix things successfully? No, we’ve chosen to elect lawyers, who are schooled on how to get around things.

        We need one or two additional amendments to our Constitution” The 28th should require that Congress shall pass no law that does not apply equally to each and every member of Congress. The 29th should state that no member of Congress shall derive a benefit from office that does not apply equally to the citizenry of the USA. No more voting themselves raises, no more special retirement benefits, no more special medical benefits, (how can Nancy Pelosi fly back and forth between California and Washington DC each week in a 757, then countenance her colleagues belittling auto industry CEO’s for flying to Washington in private jets?), no more budget-eating staffs. Perhaps the 30th Amendment should require severe term limits to keep Members of Congress from becoming career politicians – so that they represent their constituencies, rather than making their “service” a career?

        Vote “NO” resoundingly – don’t re-elect one incumbent, no matter how “good” you think he is! Better that a rookie make honest mistakes derived from a lack of experience while representing his constituents than that a career politician achieve the same result on purpose, and derive some personal benefit from that “service” each time a “service” is rendered.

        I know, I’m just naive, but I stand on my considered opinion(s) – vote, vote knowledgeably, vote for that which you consider is best for us all (and not for that which will give you an advantage).

        Who can blame Obama for wanting the power of the US Presidency? Who can fault Obama for doing whatever is necessary to secure that office? After all, hasn’t Congress legislated that they cannot be held liable for the lies they tell to secure the office? And haven’t we stood idly by and let them get away with it – and with the other special advantages they’ve bestowed upon themselves?

        You’re right: now is the time to do something about that! Clean house! Vote all incumbents out of office – Obama included!

    • Stewie

      YOU ARE SO RIGHT SC. Obama does not want to seal the border because he and his cronnies want them here. Obama needs their votes. He hates America and wants us to become a thrid world country. He and his family will be rich, so they don’t care about us. The rich will be cared for, and low income will not do anything to lose their cradle to grave benfits. The middle class is a thorn to Obama. We stand up for what is right. We work, pay our taxes, and will vote him out of office.

      • 45caliber

        If the border is open to anyone, Oblama might be able to smuggle the rest of his family into the country along with the millions of other people who want to come here for money or to kill.

      • eddie47d

        You can now leave the North Korean indoctrination camp for which you sprew your trash. By the way how did you get out?

      • JeffH

        fast eddie is starting to sound like duh!nisso…waaa waaa!
        Unraveling before your very eyes…huh?

      • eddie47d

        Another indoctrinator heard from ,I’m so surprised.

      • http://naver samurai

        Korth Korea, baaaaa! Chaaaaange! Can’t lead your herd of sheep by the nose anymore eddie haskel? Why do you mention North Korea which you know nothing about? Baaaaa! Baaaaa! Baaaaa! Just another sheeple. I agree with you JeffH. The ball is certainly rolling in favor of what’s right.

      • JC

        Boy! That’s some argument there eddie, good job. hahaha

    • 45caliber

      I hardly believe that Oblama is the genius intellect that many people seem to be giving him credit for. Like Clinton, I think he is a face that is directed from behind the curtains by others. He is told what to do, and he does it to the best of his ability regardless of who it might harm or what it might take.

      What I want to know is who is behind him?

      • eddie47d

        Well G. Bush had Cheney behind him. No one could figure out who was the dummy and who was the ventriloquist. Oh Well keep looking for that perfect politician.

      • Millicent

        G. Bush was trying to clean up the mess that Hilary & “Billy Boy” left

      • Hugh Jordan

        as Obama is cleaning up Bush’s mess. The country will suffer from the legacy of ALL these jerks for decades.

        The real people pulling the strings are people you will never hear of.

      • JeffH

        Hugh Jordan, Soros gets in the news from time to time…he’s got one of the strings, kind of a billionare liaison if you will…one with a tremendous hold over Washington politics I might add.

      • JC

        Hugh, Obama is cleaning up NOTHING. That low-life is doing his Allah loving best to finish us off!

      • http://naver samurai

        Hugh, are you blind or something? Reagan cleaned up Carter’s mess. Bush cleaned up Hillary’s mess, oops! Bill was the president, wasn’t he? Now who will clean up the mess that Obama bin Laden has made? Think real hard about it! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • http://GOGGLE vaksal

        well i cant pass putting my 2cents worth on the messes these bums did while in office,and i will say this only once ,yes they all needed diapers,for all the stink they left behind,but dont blame yourselfs,for in thruth we only vote for canidates that are selected by the speical few that run this country,so please dont beat yourselfs up,we have been all taken for a ride for at least 24yrs,but who knows for sure,time to get grass root people in that will help this nation,for all the past bums weve had have been killing the very freedoms we have had,time for every voter to think about,what will happen to themselfs and their families if these puppet presidents keep doing the bidding of this (NWO BUNCH,just think about it.myself i say its time to get new blood in washington,all these other folks have been eating at the dinner table too long,and have stolen the silverware and the house has been cleaned out to many times,they have left nothing,time to throw them all out,the corrupt ones.

      • eddie47d

        I’ll take their “mess” anyday over what Bush left us with.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        We ALL know who the dummy is here!!! edduh47Duh!!!!!!!

      • JeffH

        Amen, Joe H, samauri, kate8, Jana, usmadgirl, Angel, Claire, Dave H, Bereberoi, Raggs, i41, Al Seiber, Bruce D, JC, Airangel, Warrior, 45caliber, Steve, chuck b, bp and all of you that I missed that are contributing to the cause of turning our country back to a constitutional republic of the people and for the people, one nation under God.

      • http://naver samurai

        Thanks JeffH. I really appreciate that after the very hard confrontation I had with smilee and abnorm double teaming me. I was able to put out a few sources they couldn’t argue against and they eventually left me alone. Thank goodnes for them. Keep up the good fight! No retreat, no surrender! FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Fast Eddie is struggling getting a grip on the truth. He tries to defend undefendable actions by this administration, who hasnt a clue what to do, or what they are doing. All they know is to stand there, point the finger, and place blame. No ideas, no solutions, no plans, just place blame. Thats why they are all leaving the scene.

      • all american Sam

        Do you really beleive what you say?.Your very unamerican attitude shows only one the thing , Your lack of education and your blind back woods reasoning. Where have you been for the last ten years. Your Boy Bush destroyed America.Obama was elected by americans tired of Closed Door dealings of Bush and His Oil boys Including The Saudi Royal Family. Where were you on 9/11? under a rock. The Saudi’s Run airplains into our buildings and Bush sticks his head in the sand,and allows them to leave America ,NO QUESTION ASKED.And Lies outright to Americans and Bombs the wrong people. Thats probably ok with you.I spent time in Irag fighting to keep america safe.When you see these children suffering, there tattered bodys , broken and defeated. One Boy missing both arms asked me ‘Why kill me , don’t american Love there children’I Cried like a little baby. Put my arms down and left the service.You have to think about what you do and what you say ,it could not only hurt you, It hurts America

      • JC

        I’m sorry for your experiences, no one should have to go through that.
        But are you suggesting that the present administration is somehow doing the right things?

      • eddie47d

        All American Sam,Thanks for your service.I’ve listened to Jeff H. for quite some time now and he still lives under a rock. He loves wars in books and the patriotic death of his fellow Americans. He has killing in his blood. Those of us who left the service know what wars do to veterans and to their country.Jeff likes to listen to Glenn Beck who gives teary eyed versions of war. Not the real insanity of it all. Limbaugh and Cheney like to grandstand on wars too. If they only knew the truth.

      • http://naver samurai

        And you eddie haskel love to destroy America from the inside, don’t you?

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Your confused. Under Clinton, these guys blew up the WTC basement, they beat our soldiers dead dragging them naked through the streets of somalia. They blew up the USS Cole, and they threatened us at every turn. Due to Clinton cutting our intelligence agencies in half, these guys entered our country and roamed around undetected, trained for over 5 years of Clinton’s reign, then planned and blew up the WTC on 9-11. Bush said thats enough, and started going after these guys. About time dont you think? Yet you lilly livered left wing liberals say he went after Saddam for his dad. What the hell are you thinking. I applaud Bush’s efforts, however with the new admin we have taken 10 steps backwards, they force the general running things to retire because they didnt like him telling the truth, like letting people know the president had talked to him once in 6 weeks. Thats real leadership on Obama’s part isnt it. Then these wankers in charge had to be reminded what their general’s name was that was fighting this war. Come on man, smell the roses. Smell the incompetance in front of you. We needed to rid the world of Saddam, and rid the world of Ahminijed and of the idiot in North Korea. Myself, I would do it a little different. One of them would have been a sheet of glass by now, but thats me. I learned from history, and I saw all the lives that Hiroshima and Nagasaki saved. Id level one of them, then ask the rest of they have questions. That I believe would be the end of the discussion. You see, your left wing liberal pacifism doesnt work. It never has, and it never will. Only by force, has peace EVER BEEN ATTAINED. Once you understand that, you speak the language of our enemy. You want them to understand, speak their language. Or we could do like you liberals want, and sit down and have glass of wine with them over a candle lit dinner, and tell them how sorry we are that we are such a successful country and that we are really sorry that they are losers, while they are planning their next move on how to cut our heads off. Until you understand that, your missing the boat pal.

      • NM

        Does the 47 mean you were born in 1947 or is that your IQ?

      • Michael O

        The Bilderburgs, Rothchilds, Roosevelts, and other multimillion dollar industrialists, one-world order and other scum of the earth,
        along with Israel now control the presidency, as well as the rest of this sick world.

      • Angel

        Really glad to see that there are a couple of you that know what is truly going on. I have been researching this for a long time now from the Knights Templar to the Free Masons and Illuminati. A global agenda is what they do definitely have and a goal to depopulate the world. There is evidence that AIDS was genetically manufactured and the World Health Organization put it in small pox vaccinations and used it in the third world countries to depopulate. It is really sickening what these satanists have up their sleeves…and satanists they are!

      • kate8

        Angel, many of us do know all of this. And it’s time we come right out and expose it for all to see, instead of worrying about offending sensibilities.

        The sooner we stop being afraid to see the truth, the sooner we can reclaim our personal sovereignty.

        God be with us.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Angel,
        My father was a Mason for about 50 years. He was also a deacon at his baptist church and was a very strong believer in God and our savior. He served his country for six years during WW2 and right before. Kinda blows your satinist view of them all to hell and gone!!! I knew almost everyone in his local order. In fact, I lived in the Eastern Star Villa in Adrian michigan when I was about six years old. In case you want to check what I’m saying, Mr and Mrs Fred Bell were the managers of the house when I was there! I’m not real up on the illuminati so I would not begin to argue with you on their role in the down fall of the U.S. but I can assure you the michigan and Ohio chapters are not alligned with the illuminati in this matter!

      • Conservative at Birth

        What evidence is that, that aids was created genetically? All the scientific articles I have read, indicate it started in Africa, with humans either having sex with or eating the infected brains of small primates.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Check again. The aids virus was started in Haiti from homosexual behavior. These same Haitians migrated illegally to Florida, and it spread through the United States and the world from there, being that people are sexual deviates and perverted and sleep with their own kind. Now some innocents get it from blood transfusions and from accidents involving someone that carries it in their blood system. Some get it from sex with a woman who has been with a man that has it. More than not, 90 percent get it from having sex out of wedlock, and it all started with homosexuals in Haiti. Some say its God’s judgment against the gays, but I dont think so. He will mete out that judgment later. They still have time to repent.

      • http://LiberttyDigest Bruce D.

        I am really not a fan of Israel but I do not know how you can possibly say they control Obama. I have never seen any president show the opposition to Israel that Obama does. The demise of American principles and culture has now gone mainstream and is sanctioned by the mainstream media. It is promoted in Ivy Leagur schools in the form of progressivism. The president is openingly anti-American in his trips to Europe and has vowed to changed America to a progressive agenda. There is nothing secret about that.

      • Sharon Farrell

        Hi 45caliber, The people behind Nobama are, among other losers, those 36 unvetted highly paid Czar criminals.
        These men and women were not approved or even mentioned to our Congress who legally should have looked into the pasts of these people before they were even offered a job in our government . We…the people had no idea who they are. We do now.

        The “Whistleblower”, November 2009 published the article “The Shadow Government’ by David Kupelian giving the information and pictures of these Czars. They are not anyone you would invite home. They are socialists and communists. They are a real danger to our country.
        I think you might find the article on the internet under the Whistleblower magazine website.
        Keep writing we will be victorious in getting that fraud Obama out of office that he is not eligibile to be in that post.
        Sharon

      • 45caliber

        I believe CLinton was selected and placed in office by the same people who are behind Oblama. He didn’t have watchers/baby sitters. I believe that the czars are selected as watchers for Oblama. They are there to insure that he does nothing that is not approved elsewhere. Some are certainly in on the planning but I doubt if any of them are the real planners. I’m not even sure Soros is although I do believe he is part of the group of supporters.

      • JeffH

        45caliber, Soros is the biggest easily identified player…too many connections with him to DC politics and through all of his 527C organizations.
        Center for American Progress: This leftist think tank is headed by former Clinton chief of staff John Podesta, works closely with Hillary Clinton, and employs numerous former Clinton administration staffers. It is committed to “developing a long-term vision of a progressive America” and “providing a forum to generate new progressive ideas and policy proposals.”

        Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund: Defenders of Wildlife opposes oil exploration in Alaska’s Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. It condemns logging, ranching, mining, and even the use of recreational motorized vehicles as activities that are destructive to the environment.

        …and who could forget the Democratic Party: Soros’ funding activities are devoted largely to helping the Democratic Party solidify its power base. In a November 2003 interview, Soros stated that defeating President Bush in 2004 “is the central focus of my life” … “a matter of life and death.” He pledged to raise $75 million to defeat Bush, and personally donated nearly a third of that amount to anti-Bush organizations. “America under Bush,” he said, “is a danger to the world, and I’m willing to put my money where my mouth is.” Claiming that “the Republican party has been captured by a bunch of extremists,” Soros accuses the Bush administration of following a “supremacist ideology” in whose rhetoric he claims to hear echoes of “Nazi slogans.”
        http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/Articles/Organizations%20Funded%20Directly5.htm

    • Joe K

      S C,

      I agree entirely with your estimation of Obama. The thing that concerns me is how the heck did a jerk like this land in our White House to begin with? I honestly do not believe a majority of Americans, of any or any group of ethnic groups combined could possibly be so stupid as to put this guy in office. Nor can I believe that McCain’s nomination was much less a product of manipulation and dirty tricks than was Obamas’ (a little less, but not much)..

      If there is only the tiniest fraction of truth in the proposition that Obama was selected, not elected, then we are in deep doo doo even when he is gone. We’re done, and that scars the hell out of me. The way I see it, there are two possibilities to explain how Obama got in the white house in the first place: 1) The majority of Americans have demonstrated that they are stupid, or 2) The election that put him there was engineered and fraudulent. Either one of those possibilities saddens the hell out of me. Is Freedom dying?

      • eddie47d

        Your wrong on both point #1&2 but you can sing to the wind all you want.

      • Angel

        Dude…I think you better thing again. Do some intelligent research as I have…for over 3 years…almost 7 hours a day. Actually longer than 3 years because I first heard about the shadow government and their agenda for global control in 1981. Before you come off sounding unintelligent again, really do some research!!!

      • JeffH

        Angel, the best arguement fast eddie can make is …UH HUH! Has he ever provided a verifiable arguement with any kind of substance…NO! Never, nada or in his case…uh huh!

      • eddie47d

        Yup, Reagan was in the White House in 1981. That says a mouth full.

      • Ted Crawford

        eddie is simply trying to secure and increase his entitlement payments!!

      • Joe K

        Well, if I don’t miss my guess, there IS a strong wind coming. If Obama gets his way, it’ll blow freedom away. Then again, there is another strong wind coming, and it is in harmony with my own thoughts. Consider, for ever action there is an equal and opposite reaction. If this is true, you are going to see a turn around in America that will blow the socialist and communist wannabes out of the political arena in America. I guess it just depends on which wind blows the hardest, huh?

      • Conservative at Birth

        What the hell are you talking about. Your posts lack any semblance of intelligence.

      • Joe K

        Intelligence is not required to be a liberal. This is why, while you must ask a conservative what he or she thinks about an issue, you must ask a liberal how he or she FEELS about an issue. Who was it that once said “Facts and truth are to a liberal what holy water and crucifixes are to vampires”. Who ever said that called it pretty good.

      • http://naver samurai

        Don’t you have to be able to read and graduate from school to be considered intelligent?

      • Millicent

        Eddie, I want you to look back on this Fiasco and know that “Stupid” will have America speaking Arabic/Muslim or be executed!! I just shudder to think of my Country submitting to this. I will pray that come November, we can start turning this around and that the USA will wake up and we still be a free Nation.

      • http://naver samurai

        I don’t know about singing into the wind, but you seem to be spitting into the wind. FOR GOD AND COUNTRY!

      • NM

        Again, is 47 the year you were born or is that your IQ?

      • JC

        Sounds about right Joe. He was fraudulently in the race and elected by people who voted for color or just plain against McCain.
        It’s understandable when you see the vast number of Americans who recieve benefit for doing nothing, and the globalist propoganda machine working in concert.

        We’ve been had by a shyster.

      • Joe K

        What can I say? I voted for McCain, but I would have voted against him myself if there had been a better choice. The election was kind of like this: You can have a stick in the eye or a kick in the groin. Pick one. I chose the stick in the eye. I think that gives me the right to complain, LOL.

      • Pat R

        Joe:
        I read somewhere that it had been determined back in 2005 that Obama would be the next President. (Wish I had saved the link!) If you research the Illuminata, Bilderberger, and the Secret Society, you will find that Most of the Big Oil Co,s are members, along with many of our
        “elite” namely Joe Biden, Bill & Hillary Clinton, both Bushes, Rahm Emmanuel and on & on.
        This Immigration problem is being allowed on purpose. Obama and friends do not want to end it. Please contact our Rep.s and Sen.s and tell them how we feel. Demand that they get off their a$$ and do something about it. If we keep enough pressure on; they will have to respond!
        God Bless America Again! Keep the Faith and Live in Prayer.

      • Ted Crawford

        Every president since Eisenhower, with the one exception of Regan, have been members!!

      • kate8

        Joe K, I believe that you are absolutely right.

        Is freedom dying? It is taking a hit, but as long as those of us who carry the spirit of freedom within us have breath, it will not die!

      • http://LiberttyDigest Bruce D.

        I believe Obama will be a one term president however the polls are 51% against Obama & 46% for despite his incompetence. He is still within the numbers where the election can go either way. We have a lot of people in this country who do not share American values of hard work. Hillary Clinton promised Pueto Rico residents $5,000 dollars each if they would vote for her in the primary. They voted for her. I think Obama knows the only way he will get elected again is if he gives away as much money as possible and is asking for 50 billion more to give away. I personally believe because of the size of the national debt it will backfire on him.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        The republicans made it easy for Obummer to become president, when they decided to run a 150 year old career politician against him. Everyone is tired of these career politicians, and looking for something or someone new, so running McCain was the stupidest thing I think the Republicans have ever done in their existance, and the republican voter base to vote for him to run was the dumbest thing so called conservative voters ever did. As soon as I saw McCain was the guy, I, and all of business America knew it was over.

    • Karyn, Arizona

      There are not Thousands of Boder patrol Swarming The Area -
      I have had extensive contact with BP and their biggest problem is lack of manpower followed by equipment – and HAMSTRINGED by LAWS.

    • Karyn, Arizona

      THE OBAMA AGENDA – CAN YOU FEEL IT?

    • Barney

      So this illegal alien thing all started in the last 18 months?maybe he could grant them amnesty

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