Because the choose ignorance over knowledge. I have read 12 books in the last year and have offered them to many for their education. They chose to remain ignorant.

I agree, present them with truth and facts and they accuse you of lying because it doesn’t jibe with their opinions.

Conservative at Birth
It’s not the quantity, it’s the quality.
Reading books by Hannity, Palin, Beck, and the like, along with Alice in Wonderland, a well rounded scholar do not make.

…neither does the reading of Alinsky’s writings, although that probably make a little more sense to you Normy.

Because they don’t want to see through his snake oil. There gaze is firmly fixed on the trough. The real irony is that if socialism, and maybe even communism, were to take root, many of those useless Liberals would be the first ones stepped on by the all-powerful leaders.

That’s why those in power call them “useful Idiots”.

Socialism and communism are not where Obama is. If you haven’t noticed (obviously you haven’t) the left wing nuts are as unhappy as the right wing nuts.

Just where is Obama at Normy? Jetting off somwhere to give another speach, taking Michelle shopping at Saks 5th Ave, smoking a butt, taking calls from his handlers or doing nothing or all of the above.

Norm,
Obama has succeeded in a virtual takeover of GM, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and other companies, not to mention our healthcare system. Just how far do we have to let him go, before you admit he is a Socialist at best (probably a Marxist)?

You took oath to uphold the Constitution, and that’s what they’re afraid of.

Without principles, how will you know what is wrong? What if your principles don’t match those who are in power? Worst of all what if those in power have no principles?

As was said by John Adams, our way of government is for a moral people. It is not suitable for any other.

That would be the problem then wouldn’t it.
These people in power and many of them on the left and far left have no morals, no principals and no character. Look at the moral decline that has spread out of Washington and Hollywood and the decadence that has grown in San Francisco and spread across the nation all the way to Florida and the Northeast.

We need a new bread in Washington, people that truely want to clean it up and not stay for lenghty careers.

Those in charge now are products of the socialist indoctrination in our education system. It was planned that way.

I remember reading where Bill Ayers, meeting with Obama some years before he entered public office, saying that there would be millions who were immune to indoctrination and couldn’t be “re-educated”. They would have to be eliminated.

…got to agree with you on that DaveH.

Totally agree, here.

Here’s another thought – -

The only reason to have Gun Registration, is so they can take them away!

Clarence Thomas is a great patriot and his intention is to interpret the constitution with original intent. His wife is also a great patriot and is starting to speak out.

Bruce D…his wife, Ginnie Thomas, seems to understand the “politics as usual” in Dc quite well and educating the public through the organization Liberty Central.

I urge all concerned citizens to check out this website and sign the pledge… http://act.libertycentral.org/9/

TAKE THE PLEDGE
NOW is the time for action. Liberty Central is ‘America’s Public Square’ for concerned citizens of all backgrounds, affiliations and circumstances to stand-up and take action. Throughout history, everyday citizens have joined the front lines to defend our great nation. It’s your turn to make a difference. Americans must elect to be self-governed, as enabled by our U.S. Constitution, or we can choose to be ruled by a big government elite in Washington.

Action versus complacency – the decision is yours. Take the Pledge to Activism today.

spoonerist, OK, you’ve made it clear you hate JFK! Although somewhat inaccurate.

Right you are.

Spoonerist — Wrong, on at least one count. John Kennedy was awarded both the Navy and Marine Corps Medal, and the Purple heart in WWII. Some would consider this to be somewhat heroic.

I’m almost pi$$ed I defended spoonerist elsewhere in this blogging.

You obviously haven’t done your homework on JFK.

Look at it this way – I “used to be” a fan of Alexander Hamilton.
Then, I finally sat myself down and began to actually read the book related to our Founding Fathers’ fight against Britain and more importantly “fight against the actualy mechanics of economics” that had been allowed to destroy Great Britain.

We live in a money paradigm and spooerist should read Exec Order 11110.

Here: http://www.joemarquis.com/eo11110.htm

You want to be mad at someone in the Dem Party, circa 1961/62…
Go look at Robert McNamara. Go review the Supreme Court Judges we had then.

John Kennedy was no war hero. His incompetence lost the PT boat that he was assigned to. His father essentially bought his medals. Kennedy rasied taxes, like the 15% interest equalization tax that the mainstream media so conveniently forget to mention. He and his Attorney General brother abused their power and had General Walker illegally detained. He and Robert McNamara were co-conspirators. His judicial appointments were as bad as those of Slick Willy Clinton and Juan Peron Obama. He was a prescription drug addict. He had an extremely disrespectful attitude towards women. He promoted continued financial support to the Communist nations. He and McNamara wanted to surrender US military authority to the United Nations. He supported the UN genocide in Katanga. And on and on and on and on. John Kennedy was no patriot. He was as bad as Wilson, Roosevelt, Johnson and the clowns after him. It’s too bad that Martha Roundtree (originator of Meet the Press, and romantic rejector of Kennedy) is no longer alive. She could tell you some very interesting stories about John Kennedy and his parents.

Anthony, a bit harsh on spoonerist. BTW what book are you referring too? I am still a fan of Hamilton and am always open to further understanding.

DaveH, liberals are indoctrinated from childhood. They aren’t able to think and reason rationally, as they have a disconnect with reality. And it is nearly impossible to retrieve them. Most of the time, it is a permanent mental disability.

DaveH
Bp has no power over us? Once again, this recession was caused by unbridled big bussiness and if it wasn’t for government intervention, as vile as it is to me, it would have been a complete melt down.

Norm,
Do you ever read anything except MSM propaganda?
How can you be so ignorant? The government was complicit in the bust. The Federal Reserve created the easy money conditions, and the Federal Government encouraged lending to unqualified borrowers. Some Liberal organizations even went so far as to blackmail bankers if they didn’t lend money to unqualified borrowers.
And if you’re implying that we are out of the woods, guess again. The Government hasn’t prevented anything. They are just spending more of our money (mostly on themselves and their crony-capitalists) and setting the stage for more economic problems in the future.
If you want to remain ignorant, I can’t help you. But if you want to start learning some facts, there are many good Libertarian websites to get solid information on government mismanagement. Try Cato.org, Mises.org, and Reason.org for starters.

Dave, Norom works for MSN!

It does beg the question, doesn’t it, Anthony. Thank goodness there are intelligent people like you who do.

There are several on this blog who have a really good take on things.

JeffH
I prefer neighbors without mental disorders. With Sarah next door I would have to start packing a hand gun.

Norm, just as I stated above, youe infatuation with Palin is, uh, …well known now…

Norom is a moron. I do think he has a thing for Palin too Jeff.

DaveH
Thanks for the compliment.

Norm,
It wasn’t a compliment. I can’t say that you are wrong all of the time. But I will say that you are wrong most of the time.

DaveH

Opinions are like a-sholes, everybody has one. Most, like yours, stink.

Bill H

I have a large home(paid for long ago), not a small apartment. I choose my doctors and come and go as I please. I own weapons but don’t carry or use them. I can easily afford my relativly modest lifestyle despite living in a highly taxed southern New England state, and I am quite happy with my situation and retirement. I have 2 successful college educated kids. My wife and I worked our asses off to get here by the way.

We will see if Sarah and Rand ever get elected to office. I really doubt it. The average American isn’t that dumb. At least Rand is intelligent, unlike Sarah. He just lives in the 1700′s when everybody farmed for and shot their food. People had short lives and doctors were basically non existant.

I hate taxes like anybody else, but if you want to live in an aggressive “super power” and rule the world, then you’d better get used bellying up to the bar and paying the tab.

Bobby…back with more extensive rhetoric I see. You must have something in common with Norom. Maybe he will invite you to his Cape Cod where you can discuss your big hopes for a progressive socialist government. You both could brainstorm new comments against Bush, Palin, and your new favorite Rand! Looking forward to your predictable dramatic slurs and generalizations.

http://libertarianparty.org/platform

I disagree DaveH. There are others growing all around us. If you have not heard of them you may want to check out the Constitution Party.
http://www.constitutionparty.com/

Bill, the Constitution Party has a decidedly religious bent. And they still want to meddle in peoples’ choices for their own bodies and property. I don’t think they are much better than the Republicans. I have nothing against Religious people, but I don’t want them making my life choices.

DaveH, just curious. What life choices do Constitutionalists want to force on you? The Constitution guarantees freedom of religious expression, not the right to force one’s views on others, since everyone has the same right.

Kate,
Here is a comparison between several of the Political Parties
(Scroll down to the Comparison Table):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_parties_in_the_United_States

Note that of the subjects listed they differ from the Republicans only on the issue of Iraq.

To answer your question “What life choices do Constitutionalists want to force on you?”, I would have to say probably not many, because I live a more rigid life than most religious people do.
But they do want to force their views on many other people. Look up their stances on Drug Control and other Vice Crimes. It is none of the Government’s business to protect people from themselves. Above all, it doesn’t work. Look at the futile drug wars. They have accomplished nothing but to enrich the drug lords and allow the government an excuse to trample our Constitutional rights.

I agree that no one should be able to tell another how to live, as long as what they do harms no one else. But since you mentioned the war on drugs, it doesn’t work because it really doesn’t exist. It’s just another smokescreen put up by greedy elites to make us think they are interested in our well-being, when the illegal drug trade is a huge source of covert profit for them. THEY ACTUALLY PROMOTE IT.

It’s another reason for allowing the uncontrolled influx of illegal aliens, many of whom deal in drugs. The politicians are paid off to look the other way, and the people suffer.

Bill Who? You cannot cosider Bill Oreily a conservative. As with all Catholics, they want to force government charity upon all. He is slightly left of center.

I agree.

Whoa sister – I take exception to the lumping of all Catholics together in your theory. It just isn’t correct.

You’re wrong on your depiction of Catholics. They want the government out of our lives, too.

All Catholics? Careful now.

there was a time Wild Bill was riding high in the GOP saddle, but he hasn’t been the same since Keith took is candy and made him cry.

funnystuff.

Beck Rocks!

Stossel too (on Fox Business News).

DaveH–Stossel is better than Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, Coulter, Levin, etc.

Personally, I think they all rock, and I like Stossal for his Libertarian perspective and beliefs, although I don’t agree with all of them 100% of the time, I like what they all bring to the table. They bring the “thought” process to the table because you gotta process, filter, think and sort the information they deliver and then come to a conclusion. Unlike the liberals who refuse to do the same while listening to their choise of MSM.
The shock value of the orator’s delivery is what stimulates the thought process and I learned that quickly while listening to Rush years ago.

…thumbs up on both counts.

Glenn Beck is two-faced and you’d better watch yer backs….

I get the same feeling, Anthony. As good as most of his message is, he covers for the government on some of the more diabolical issues. Maybe he is forced to discount certain things, but that still makes him complicit…Some things just don’t sit right.

Anthony- and Kate8—I was never too comfortable with Beck either. It was just a niggling feeling I had about him.

I could not disagree with you more. Glen Beck is a great American hero. He has contributed much. On the other hand what have you contributed?

Do tell. And what is your basis for this claim?

Beck is the only person I know that had two mother that both committed suicide. Now what that might have to do with Little Glenny, I’m not completely sure. But one thing is clear, mom wasn’t all too eager to stick around and watch Glenn grow.

That is just your usual gibberish.

BobWire, that was disgusting.

I don’t know. Maybe Beck’s intentions are good. He says a lot of really good things. But he is being controlled. He has the ability to be believable, for sure, and I’d like to think that he is sincere. But he can also divert attention from things the elites don’t want us to see, and can lead us off course.

In today’s world of mass deception, we really can’t afford to trust anyone in media. They want to keep their careers.

Excerpts from Paul interview with Rachel Maddow:

Rachel: So Rand, how long have you been a racist?

Paul: I didn’t say that I am.

Rachel: How can you lie like this? If you don’t support giving all your money to the government how will the less fortunate ever attain the same status that you enjoy?

Paul: What?

Rachel: Ok, so we both agree your a racist. Now, don’t you consider this right wing racist ideology of the Tea Party, which I may add you appear to be one of the ringleaders, to be anti-american and in fact helping to foster racial divide in this country?

Paul: Uh?

Rachel: Mr. Paul, wouldn’t you say that the Tea Party stands for oppression, discrimination and possibly could be the Third Reich reincarnated?

Paul: What I said was………………

Rachel: Ladies and Gentlemen, we have just heard from Rand Paul himself and by gosh we better keep an eye on him.

She’s an idiot.

Yea, a Rhodes Scholar, fairy one with two Doctorates

And they actually reported that crap as a piece of journalism?

I don’t know if you have seen another interview but I could not find any such transcript. If you can direct us to the transcript then great but if this is false and you have presented it as a factual transcript then you should be clear on your sarcasm.

well said PS.

So Bebroni, if we had left BP alone they never would have had this blow out, is that what you are saying? We don’t require a relief well be drilled like Canada, or that they use a backup safety valve like some South American countries. We have industry friendly appointees who were placed in positions of oversight partying with reps of the very oil industry they are supposed to regulate, and you suggest that it’s our meddling that caused this? That’s almost as good as the claim that the Obama administration bombed the rig!
Do any of you really feel that we were well served by the repeal and/or weakening of regulations during the Reagan/Clinton/Bush years? Do you think that American auto companies will really improve gas milage without a push? Even with CAFE standards we lost ground from the 30mpg Studebakers of the 40s and 50s (yes, I know this was before CAFE, but the point is the technology existed.) We also lost ground on air quality, water quality, and safety. You can stop buying a product or service if you disagree with the companies actions, but how much will they get away with before our actions stop them? Do you really believe, like G.W.Bush once said that companies will act responsibly because it’s in their own interest? Do you think that Ford and Firestone were doing the right thing when they let their Explorers flip? Yes, the public found out and responded, but how many people had to die first? Was that responsible? The governments job is to defend and protect the citizens, and sometimes we need protection from the profit motivated decisions of large companies.

Kinetic1 says “and you suggest that it’s our meddling that caused this?” Good spin to come up with that one.
We need to stop government from being the major player in all of the corruptness. Protect this country and it’s citizens from totally destroying the “American dream”. Rand Paul seems to have some integrity, something that does not exist in mainstream politics, the White House, past and present administrations and the house on the hill yet you, Kinetic1, trust them to do the right thing? Get whith it or be left behind.

If our representatives fail us, we can vote them out. I want the administration and my representatives to clean house of the government employees who failed to enforce our laws, and I’ll vote against them if they don’t. I don’t have the same option with BP. We have to trust someone (at least to some degree) to watch out for the best interests of our country. Are you ready to leave that job up to Consumer Reports? Will you give them the power to shut down an oil rig that fails to meet safety standards?

Do you really believe that our trust should be placed with a corporation who, by law must place their shareholders above all else? Sure, some are run by very honest and thoughtful people, but can we afford the damage caused by those who are not? BP may go under as a result of this (though I doubt it.) or they wriggle there way out of paying for what they have done, but it’s too late to punish them by not buying their gas. They are responsible for the destruction of our lands, carriers and wild life and we could have stopped them with just a little better oversight.

I’m not saying that we necessarily need more regulations, but that we need to enforce those that we have and respond accordingly if they are not enough. BP could have spent a little more money to safeguard our nation, but they chose not too. Our government could have held them to tighter safety regulations, but allowed them to lobby their way around it. Rand Paul and other like him seem to feel that the market will keep corporations honest, but clearly that does not work.

What I am saying is our government has lost the trust we’ve depended on them for…corporations too have lost the trust of the people, you can’t trust two entities that continually sleep together can you?
Corruption, greed and power! Does that sound familiar because that is what big government and big corporations do. Zero integrity and until we find and vote in some politicians that do have some integrity, not much else will change.

Kenetic says “Rand Paul and other like him seem to feel that the market will keep corporations honest, but clearly that does not work”.

It doesn’t? Funny, I don’t recall Free Markets in my lifetime. What is “clear” is that the heavy involvement of Government in our Markets has not stopped those same calamities you worry about. Do you honestly believe that the meddling of some disinterested bureaucrat with a job for life is going to create a bigger disincentive to a company than that of potentially being sued for billions, losing their customer base, and their stock value?

You fear the evil men working in Corporations, but somehow turn a blind eye to the evil men working in Government. And Government is Force. All a private company can do is hope to please their customers or lose them.

In response to Kinetic1, are you as stupid as you are narrow minded. All this happened under the oversite of your precious government regulation and inspectors. How did that work out for you and the rest of us. When will people like you realize that this type of thing is actually a result of all the government intervention and regulation. Layer upon layer upon layer of regulations. It’s nearly impossible to sort through. The better question is, Why was BP (a foreign corp.) drilling at all. Do they have our best interests at heart… I doubt it. BP is one of the best at circumventing the rules, look what they did in Prudue Bay. They knew there underwater pipes were failing. Did they shut them down and repair them, NO! They ran them until they had a massive failure. Again, this all happened under the ever watchful eye of your unerring government.
Wake up and smell the coffee.

And all the money they spend on jumping through paperwork hoops would be much better spent developing the technology to prevent future mistakes.

Kenetic1 need to watch the Movie: FOOD, INC. (on youtube)

THEN, he wuold better understand government regulation and intervention.

Keetic1,
Just for kicks, tell me where BP would have been drilling had the government not pushed them into deep water? How many wells in shallow water do we have in the gulf? 2000? and not one major incident! The enviros and the government pushes them into deep water and what happens? So to answer your question, yes a little less regulation on where they can drill might have averted this!

It’ll work fine if laws of justice are enforced in courts of “Justice” instead of the revolving door kangaroo courts we now have.

Gag me Kinetic. BP is a Big Government sycophant. We’ve all seen their numerous ads on TV touting their “Greenness”. And BP donated heavily to the Obama campaign. Government is bigger than ever before in our history and still the spill happened.
Isn’t hindsight grand?
Big Government was here before the economic bust and it still happened. Many people (myself included) were warning that the real-estate bubble was going to burst years before it did. Where was that wonderful Government in all that time?
It must be nice to be a Hoping and Dreaming Liberal. The rest of us must face the harshness of reality.

And how much does all that “Insurance” (Big Government) cost us? We pay them $2 to save us $1.

DaveH — I think all of us have to admit – the oil spill is a false flag operation and simply be done with all the other distraction rhetoric.

The deepest Oil Rig in the World, is in the Gulf of Mexico
And, it has just as great a chance to have something happen.
Go research BP’s rig: THUNDERHORSE

DaveH, your point about government being in bed with BP and others is an important one. That is also the reason that so many other, cheaper, cleaner and more abundant (some free) sources of energy have been supressed. Those who have invented them have been known to disappear after a visit from suits.

Anyone who trusts government to have our backs on anything is delusional. They are all about money and power – their own.

I find it hard to believe that you expect government to protect you while you expect “big business” to hurt you. Guess what — they’re composed of the same humans.

How many times must I post this?
http://reason.org/news/printer/the-myth-of-financial-deregula

Government is Bigger than ever before in our history and people think there has been deregulation? Then what the flock are they spending our money on?

DaveH–The war we have been in for almost 10 years has cost America dearly. That is a fact. I don’t see how we are paying for it now.

We are not paying for the war. The Fed went to the printing press to print up money because they could not pay. If they didn’t they would have to declare bankrupcy. But the war is just one part of the problem. Obama’s projected spending has us 20 trillion in debt if the make up of the Congress does not change in November elections.

Bruce D—Whoops, I forgot they printed money!!! But still, they will have to keep printing it then. There is no end in sight.

I stand by my comment that Clinton deregulated banking in 1998 that led to the loose money policies of Barney Frank and Criss Dodd. That led to the packaging of morgatages into AAA Bonds that failed and brought the system down.

What many call “deregulation” is just another set of rules.
Study the electricity fiasco in California after their supposed “deregulation” of Electric Utilities and you will see what I mean. True deregulation occurs when the Government get completely out of their business. That’s not likely to happen anytime soon.

I’m inclined to agree. Control the money, and you control the politicians, and “hogs at the public trough.”

…that’s right on the money…

“Give me control of a nation’s money and I care not who makes her laws” ~ Meyer Rothschild
Guess what! They have that control.

It is not the income tax its the federal reserve,which controls everything ,because they answer to know one .They have to be eliminated,good luck with that one!!!!

You should read this, Tsaray:
http://mises.org/daily/1814

There is no substitute for downsizing our oversized Government. Where they get the taxes from is just a distraction.

In reality, only 20 States actually ratified the 16th Amendment, Dave!

Anthony,
My point is, Anthony, that it doesn’t matter how they pay for the Government Spending. The real problem is the spending.

As Government Grows, Corruption Flows. All we have to do is look at our neighbor Mexico to see that.

Keeping potential Bureaucrats from making a living?

No, Am Lib is just ignorant.

Actually, would say Am.Lib is stupid. You see the definition of ignorant is; to not know or lacking in knowledge. Stupid is; an inability to learn.

My theory is that he gets money from the government, either as an employee or as a subsidy.

Actuallly, AmLib is just a bait artist….

Ignore him…. completely.

Anthony,
AMEN Brother!!!!

He may be a conservative, assigned to this board to make Liberals look Ignorant. If so, he is doing an excellent job.

DaveH – my theory is they are all government employees working in that WH basement office.

Conservative at Birth,
The reason that I won’t buy another Chrysler product is they took tax money, yes, but another is that they havent really improved their product over the years. In 1995, I bought a pontiac transport van that got 29 miles to the gallon, was super comfortable,was a pleasure to drive. Well in 2005 my wife bought a Chrysler town and country. It gets all of 24 miles to the gallon, is not comfortable at all, and I hate to drive it! Given the choice, I would love to have my old van back! We also have a little Hyundai Accent and it runs like a top, gets about 38 miles to the gallon, and is fun to drive!! Now I would not buy a GM or Chrysler product on a bet as they took the tax money when they couldn’t improve enough to compete! Let their union bosses buy them!

You certainly got it backwards. Scott Brown is like John McCain, correct maybe 50% of the time. Rand Paul will vote corretly about 100% of the time. Rand Paul is not racist; Scott Brown might be. The real racists are the Democrat and Republican Establishment elitists. Read the Census form; it is racist. Listen to their drivel about “affirmative action”; it is racist. Obama, Kerry, Frank, Franken, Pelosi, Schumer, Clinton, etc. are all racists, because they believe that government should do things based on race (see Census form, “affirmative action” legislation, etc). Individual racism is bad. Institutional racism is even worse. Governmental racism is the worst of all.

We answered those questions on the census exactly what they need to know. That is that there were two adults living at this address. All the other 9 questions were N/A. In other words, none of the government’s business. Then they sent someone to the door to personally ask us to fill the form out again. He was sent packing.

Good for you, Roylyn08.

Roylyn08, same here. The census guys have been here three times now, wanting me to finish the form. I refused. The last time the guy said, “So are you refusing to answer these questions?” I just turned and walked into my house. I don’t want to say the wrong thing.

I must say that I feel some trepidation over what they might do. No doubt we will be on a dissident’s list. But I felt the need to draw the line in the sand. As long as we keep giving in, in order to be left alone, they will keep coming back with yet more intrusions into our lives. They will continue to prove that our distrust of this government is well founded.

BTW, an elderly woman in the next town greeted her returning census worker with a rifle. He sent the sheriff, who was likewise greeted. The cops gunned her down in her own doorway.

Refuse to be “trained”.

The only problem is that we are all on the Internet. For a few bucks anyone can get information about you—criminal records, where you live, phone number, everything.

kate8 – I’m not necessarily defending the poor woman – I don’t know what really happened. BUT why the heck are census workers bugging people at their homes after 9 pm anyway – I might have answered with a gun myself -
http://www.appeal-democrat.com/articles/family-95100-city-woman.html

Libertytrain, I only know the details that were reported. She was no doubt angry and fed up with government intrusion, like many of us, and tried to emphasize a point. Bad move, of course, but it is a sad day in America when one does not have the right to refuse entry onto one’s property.

There is much angst concerning the census. I just heard that census information is being linked with one’s finances, IRS, bank account and medical records. Not to hard to get those implications. This is exactly what Hitler did in order to catagorize people.

While I would not have done what she did, there is something seriously wrong about being gunned down by law enforcement while standing in one’s own home. She had committed no crime, and was simply trying to protect her personal sovereignty. We can see where this is leading.

kate8 – oh I’m with you. I had more follow-up calls because of my scantily filled out census forms and now because emergency services/911 assigned addresses to all buildings on a property (including barns with electricity, I’ve gotten a visit and phone calls about two abandoned cabins on my property – I had not received a form for each of them because they get no mail – however, a census man showed up with forms for each – I said they were abandoned and he called yesterday wanting still more info on abandoned buildings! Ugh!

Libertytrain, it is not any of their business about your “abandoned” buildings and I would have told them that much along with turn around, leave and don’t bother me anymore. I gave minimal info on my census also and won’t even answer the door if they knock.

I guess the moral of that story is don’t be pointing guns at people unless you intend to use them.

JeffH – I know it wasn’t their business and told them as much in a nice way. He was an old codger and I reminded him till these ridiculous addresses were assigned, like during the last census – no one cared. So I was confused why they were important this time.

We also answered two adults and checked “Other” and put American. all they need to know.

I’ve heard stories of the census info being used for all sorts of things, like building code violations, that have nothing to do with the census. This is a huge overstep by this administration, and a scary one. Their stating that this info won’t be used for any other purpose is a bald-faced lie, since they’ve already been using it for anything they choose.

I don’t think most people realize how serious this is.

You forgot Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, the two biggest racists to ever walk the face of the earth.

I get your drift, but you’re a little off the mark. Following your line of reasoning, one would have to posit that Louis Farrakhan and Yahwen Ben Yahweh were of a greater magnitude than Sharpton and Jackson. But for my money, I would say Margaret Sanger and David Rockerfeller.

If they weren’t racist, they wouldn’t be making any money and they’d have to go and find a real job.

Well put Spoonerist! I never really looked at it that way. I believe you are right.

spoonerist, well said.

Yes Spoonerist,

I also believe you are correct. In fact Mr. Brown stabbed his constituants in the back on his very first vote. Something McCain would do in a heartbeat and has done repeatedly. Both are whichever way the wind blows type.

If you want a bunch of RINOs elected, then yeah, we need more Scott Browns.

Norm,
Your first sentence was correct. Your last couldn’t be more wrong.

Spoonerist is right. I’m already seeing reports on Free Radio America about Scott Brown actually being a wolf in sheep’s clothing. You know a great way to tell? How much screaming have you heard from nis Camp on not being seated as quickly as possible? We’re in the midwest, and I hear practically nothing, especially once the Health care Bill was dealt with. Nary a whisper.

Jerry, I so agree with you. Most of the Republicans if not all are just as bad as the left. Scot Brown is pro-abortion as well as many others. If they are not that then they are for something else that we don’t believe in. We need term limits, to do away with the Fed Reserve, and get the fed gov completely out of our lives and business. Freedom to run our private business as we see fit and to raise our children according to our morals and Gods, not the governments.

All is a ploy to still take us over and I am not falling for that. Even Palin, at first I supported her but when she started advocating people whose time is up, or doesn’t listen to the people, then she turned my head the other way. McCain is for Cap & Trade. (I live in Az) he is also on record for amnesty. We need SMALLER government and it has to be with politicians who are capable of performing to the will of the people, not just any old thing THEY want as they work for us, not the other way around. Take back America…it is past time. The giant has awakened!

Amen, Jerry and Angel!!

We HAVE term limits. It’s called the vote. Vote out ANYONE who fails to support and defend the Constitution. Look at their record. Then vote.

Why is no one discussing RECALL ?

And now, Angel, the NRA has endorsed McCain. Unbelievable. We need to boycott that organization.

DaveH– I think I told you my husband and son were grousing about the NRA. I asked them why and they told me it was because the NRA is supporting McCain.

Seriously? Holy Crap. I guess I won’t be renewing…

Is there anyone or anything you people like?

Yes, I like people that respect my right to control my own body and my own property.
I don’t like people that ask dumb questions.

I hope and dream that you are right, JC, but I think we’re in for a very long battle for our freedom.

I believe it has already started DaveH. Keep the pressure on, we can not rest until this is seen through.

it’s never stopped since 1776

i want to add that i do not agree with everything Rand or Ron Paul promote–BUT having met and spoken with Ron-and having worked in the same hospitals with him as a child–i don’t believe either are racists–i just think that the majority of mankind cannot be relied upon to do the right thing on their own most of the time–maybe close to half can now–we need a DNA upgrade before his ideas about man helping man instead of government helping man–can work in reality–even back in san antonio at the charity hospital–the big doctor thought how wonderful the nuns care for the poor–NOT–the big doctor did not ever hear about the nuns telling me to take the bleeding knife wounded guy or the old lady with no insurance to the bus stop instead of treating them–but that is another issue.

Please. Government is composed of men (and women) also. And they have the added disincentive of not having to worry about losing their jobs. There is no reward for innovative thinking so why would they stick their necks out to be more efficient? If Government fails in their efficiency they just raise taxes (unfettered usually). If a private charity fails in efficiency it loses the voluntary donors that support it. Which people do you think are going to work harder at their charitable jobs?

DaveH -

I say we abolish the 17th Amendment. Once State Legislatures once again have the right to “appoint” the Senators that go to Washington, the more reliable they will return to being when it comes to supporting their State’s Needs over the corruption that has ALWAYS EXISTED inside any and all Governments.

Maybe Anthony, but I think there is no substitute for an informed electorate. Probably the most important thing we can do is get the Government out of the education process. They are dumbing down our children.

Pat,
I’m sorry but that is completely insane. The government doesn’t help anyone. Just look at the problems welfare has created. The welfare state wasn’t needed, the churches were handling things just fine. Everything the government does under the guise of helping only creates dependency. They are the slave masters of modern times. The folks on welfare and other entitlement programs just haven’t realized it. The government isn’t your friend until it gets out of your life, your pockets and your business.

Well said, Bill H.

What exactly does that mean ‘kick their butts if needed?’ There is no moral justification for attacking countries that are 9,000 nautical miles from the US homeland are no threat to us.

Love of country does not mean loyalty to the government.

Using ‘fighting them there so we don’t have to fight them here’ is a lame, weak excuse. Fighting ‘them there’ creates MORE terrorists, MORE hatred of the US, MORE foreign entanglements, MORE hemorrhaging of US treasure to ‘fight’ these endless stupid wars with no end in sight.

Is Iraq a better place now? Is it safer? Did democracy prevail? Or was a vicious, long-simmering Civil War unleashed upon the demise of Saddam?

And, more importantly, why is it the job of the American people to ‘spread democracy’ or police the world. If it is our job to police Europe, what is the European’s job? Why are US troops still in Korea? Why isn’t S. Korea defending its own border? Did US interference make the situation better or worse in Kosovo?

It is far a different matter to travel 9,000 miles to battle Fourth World hell holes that pose no threat to American citizens than it is to defend US soil.

If America were attacked, I myself would be the first one out with my guns to protect myself, my children and loved ones and everything I’ve worked for. And I am a late middle-aged, small female with arthritis–but I can handle a rifle, handgun or shotgun as needed.

Why can’t the US mind its own damn business and avoid overseas foreign wars? How about putting the military on our Southern Border to protect the American people from illegal colonists?

The Birdman, a true Libertarian, was not wrong when he wrote:

“…I do not believe in attacking countries which have not attacked us, no matter how odious their governments may be. If their people can’t organize themselves and fight for their own freedom, why should anyone expect us to do it for them?

* I do not believe that Americans should be required to fight under a United Nations flag. American servicemen are pledged to uphold the Constitution, not to obey the whims of a bunch of foreigners, most of whom are either socialists, totalitarians, or have just recently emerged from the primordial slime.

* I believe that if a politician favors war, that he should be in the first assault wave, and that if he votes for war, he should remain in the front lines until the war is over.

* While I do not believe in the draft because I do not believe in involuntary servitude, I believe that any adult citizen who publicly advocates war should be immediately subject to the draft, no matter what his age.

This is what Libertarians believe.

The Warmongers in the government believe something entirely different.

Bon of Babble

Whoe Bon of Babble!!! distance on this planet meant something back before air travel and rockets, but not anymore. How long do you think it will take a bullistic missle to arrive from North Korea or Iran or Russia. We worried about Missles from russia for years during the cold war. North Korea and Iran are trying to hold us hostage with their nuke and rocket program and doing a very good job of it. Distance HA! Not a problem for those who want us distroyed.

Donc711

Ah, but why do they want us destroyed? Is it because we bombed them, sanctioned them, did many other things to try to destroy them first, or is it *just* because they hate what we stand for? I’m not saying that national defense is not important, but getting involved in foreign wars and meddling in all world politics is not what the founders’ intended in their version of “fighting for what’s right”. America has a much better chance of influencing the world without using military pressure.

Harry,if we stay out of there business they might not hate us, but people like the Builderberg Group can’t make money with prvately owned Federal Reserve Bank which promote and financally support both sides. They don,t want peace their want be money to be made, please remove the blind fold…

American Citizen,
I don’t know about other countries, but not yes but HELL YES, Iran wants to destroy us! All of the Muslim finatics want to destroy what they term as the great satan!! FACT!

If you want to attack someone attack Saudi Arabia. The terrorists on 9/11 were mostly Saudis. Saudi Arabia funds more terrorist organizations than anyone else. And as far as ballistic (not bullistic) missiles from Korea are concerned they don’t have a delivery system capable of reaching the US, nor does Iran. Even if they did I find it highly unlikely that they would commit suicide on the scale that would occur if they pickled a nuke at any nuclear capable country.
To Mara Liason who champions the most unpatriotic law ever foisted upon us, the Patriot Act that strips us of freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution. Are you so naive and afraid that you need big brother to scare all the monsters hiding under our bed at night so you can sleep. As for support of the war in Iraq see the above paragraph. Iraq didn’t attack us. The wars we are currently embroiled in are unconstitutional and unjust. And the Fed should be abolished. Read the constitution, congress should be in charge of monetary policy not a private banking concern.

Right on Chuck!

I just returned from a trip to Malaysia and it was very enlightening. Although Malaysia is a predominantly Muslim country it is also 35% Chinese (Buddhists, Christians, and Taoists), 15% Indian (Hindu), and about 8% Westerners. Because Malaysia has so much ethnic diversity the people have learned to get along and respect each other’s cultures.

The Muslim people of Malaysia were especially friendly to Americans and were constantly saying that they have nothing to do with Arab, Afghan, and Iranian extremists whom they felt were corrupting the religion in the way fanatical Christians did during the Spanish Inquisition. Perhaps it it the bountiful environment they live in, years of being a British colony, or just that they practice a different, less oppressive form of Islam but I never got any sense of fanaticism or even the unfriendly vibes I got when working in the Middle East.

I had come to suspect that we were involved with a global religious war masked behind other political issues, but after this visit to Malaysia I have changed my mind. I now suspect that there are deeper cultural issues in the Middle East that predate Islam that are a driving force of ingrained hatred. There are interesting records of Alexander The Great’s campaigns in Afghanistan that suggest many of the issues the Taliban espouse existed 4000 years ago and have not changed.

It was a source of hope to realize that all Muslims are not the same, just as not all Christians are the same. We have our extremist fundamentalists who are as intolerant as the Taliban and we have those who see the real lessons in Christ’s teachings of kindness, forgiveness, and generosity to the poor.

We and much of the western world has meddled in the middle east…overthrown gov’ts,occupied countries,divided territory,sold weapons and more,usually w/ oil as the reason behind our interventions. Is it a surprise they hate us? These things don’t happen in a vacuum and we need to admit our failings and change policy.

Why did we attack, fight wars, with people that did not attack us? How soon we forget or did not pay attention. Americans and American establishments have and are being attacked constantly, even if we are just there minding our own business, or even on our own soil. We get attacked when on peaceful mission to help others in countries where the poor need assistance. So to say we need to mind our own business and just stay home is like sticking one’s head in the sand, someone is going to come along and chop it off and you will not know it until it’s to late. The USA the land of opportunity and the envy of others. The only way for them to feel better is to drag down the USA or damage it. Example of this is MSNBC, do they build up anyone at all or is their complete focus to demean and put down? It’s the latter and in their twisted way this makes them feel better because they have put down, or damage, someone that is better then themselves.

Perhaps if we didn’t have a history of propping up dictators, (The Shah, Noriega et al:)and we actually did mind our own business, we might not be earning the animosity of the people that are oppressed by those same dictators…”friendly to US interests”.
Come on bcorp…we need to put some morality back into DC at the very least. We’ve lost the moral high ground and it’s going to take some work to get it back.

I’ve always had a hard time wrapping my brain around the logic that we must attack them before they attack us. Stretch that logic a bit and not many of us would be left.
I prefer to arm myself to the teeth and wait until somebody actually attacks me first.

DaveH,
How many of your family would be acceptable to die before we attack? That’s exactly what could happen if we wait till they attack us here. We were never attacked by Russia because they had the good sense to know we would destroy them and they would destroy us. The difference is the Russians didn’t believe they would go to heaven and be given a slew of virgins if they were killed attacking us. They don’t care if they kill women, kids, grandparents, or pets for that matter! It’s a whole different enemy now!

Joe H– I agree– a different kind of enemy this time.

Joe H,
So if I suspect somebody would like to kill me, it’s okay if I kill them first? Don’t tell me it’s any different because it involves countries, not individuals.
Which came first – the chicken or the egg?

So called ‘pre emptive’ war is unconstitutional,illegal and immoral,and should be considered totally unAmerican…it sounds like street gang behaviour. What will the world,not to mention our own society, look like if that is an international standard? Any person or country who ‘thinks’ they may be attacked has the right to attack or invade? Utterly absurd!

And Rand Paul,I guess named after that paragon of wisdom and virtue,Ayn Rand, is either too dumb to be a politician or an actual extremist kook…he says he would have supported the civil rights act
on constitutional grounds? The law that finally helped bring to and end the systematic oppression and discrimination against an entire segment of our population, he would not support? He’s a fool and extremist.

Of course,I meant to type,’Rand Paul WOULDN’T have supported the civil rights act’.

well said Bon, people arround the world want peace just as we do, but the elites such as the Builderberg Group is controlling our goverment and most other countries. They don’t want peace on earth they just want to control it.

I agree with you to a degree but most battles today must be fought somewhere else because we must prevent other countries from aquiring
the ability to annilate us from a distance so we cannot wait to be attacked, these foreign countries would build up their strength ( be it atomack bombs or other new tech and then blow us up

I guess then that we proved to Japan that they were right in attacking Pearl Harbor.
The logic of pre-emtive strikes falls flat. It just proves to the world that we are the aggressors that need to be dealt with.

Have you ever stopped to consider why anyone would want to “blow us up?” Did they maybe wake up one day and think it was a good idea or did they get tired of being pushed around from afar?

Bon,
I am with you. Good Comment.

Has anybody here been alive for the past few years? Did you all just get born yesterday?

What about the Marine Barracks bombing, Bombing of the USS Cole, Blackhawk Down, Bombing of the Twin Towers Basement, and the Mother of all Attacks, The total loss of the Twin Towers, damage to the Pentagon, and if not for some brave souls, the White House.

These were all Attacks on the USA. We lost numerous people in those attacks, and if the terrorists are not supressed on Foreign soil, “we aint seen nuttin yet”

Saddam Hussein was a major contributor to every terrorist organization that wanted to wipe us out. He perpetrated Genocide on his own people if they did not agree with every thing he said and did. I’ve talked to guys that were over there, and they found mass graves with hundreds if not thousands of people in them, murdered and covered like we would do to a Garbage Dump.

Talk to some of our guys coming back from Iraq, they have done and are doing a heck of a good job. Iraq is on it’s way to becoming a place where it’s citizens can live a more or less normal life. And his WMD’s existed, but were moved to Syria and Iran before we invaded. The Israli’s proved that the Nuke complex they wiped out came out of Iraq. And we know a lot of other WMD’s went to Iran, if not some Nuke manufacturing stuff.

If we don’t fight the battle over there and try to get the Middle East more stable, you better start learning Farsi real soon. And dig into the Quoran, because you’ll be needing a knowledge of Sharia Law.

uSNpops nailed it. People need to get away from right or left and use common sense.

So we’re born yesterday, Pops, because we don’t necessarily agree with you? Pretty tidy little world you live in.
Yes, if we are attacked, we should retaliate. I think for every one of us, we should take out 3 of them until they learn to not mess with us. But then, after we take 3 for 1, we should get out of their countries. We usually wouldn’t even have to risk our ground troops to accomplish that. Their own people would reign in the fanatics if they knew the price they would have to pay for the action of those fanatics. You can say what you want, but there are few people that so fanatically embrace their religion that they are willing to die for it.
As Sean Connery said in Untouchables, “He pulls a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue”.

Dave, I agree that when we are attacked that we should retaliate. However, I believe the appropriate response needs to be given. As to those attacks such as 9/11; we should have sent perhaps 1000 of our best troops to seek out and capture those responsible for those attacks; and we could have paid them a millions dollars each and it would have been much cheaper than what we’ve spent (and still spending) on this so-called “War on Terror”. Give an appropriate punishment to those found guilty. Such as, if they believe pigs are unclean; then sentence them to 30 days in a pig sty, with real live pigs. They won’t get their virgins then; would they?

Berberoni -

Bon is perfectly correct. There is NO justification for the United States to be involving itself in IMPERIALISM. None whatsoever.

If the U.S. were to sit back and await any involvement, then maybe those People would learn a thing or two, themselves, with what it means to be a Patriot and a Fighter for real Freedom. Mexico is a perfect example of this. Their Patrician Class is so corrupt and has been that was since the inception of them as a Country. Their upper class is certainly involved in the very drug trade that threatens them as a Country right now.

People all over need to learn to fight for their freedom and to learn how to not put up with anything else. I’d rather be dead than live in a Police State…

How about you?

Our involvement in Iraq is not imperialism. We didn’t take territory, we don’t run the government, and we haven’t made money on the deal. Quite the opposite, right? So ask yourself again why we’re there.

Maybe it has to do with bullying. Maybe we are the one country on earth that will stand up to bullies. Remember high school bullying? When you saw it in the hallways or the schoolyard, what did you do? Did you you walk wide around it? Did you take a longer route so you wouldn’t have to hear or see it, or be seen by the bully? Did you in any way try to help the victim? Or were you silent? Do you have regrets now?

Turns out a certain percentage of people WILL help, while others will pretend it doesn’t exist. That’s how Hitler assumed complete control of Germany.

I submit that while all humans are known to pursue self-interest, there has historically been a special quality about Americans that first appeared in the Revolutionary war, when the commoner threw off the bonds of an oppressive government. I submit that this concept is deep in the psyche of Americans.

The liberal obsession with imperialism is off-base.

Sounds like you are an Isolationist which prior to WWII the USA was tending to become until the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor and the USA entered the war. The world has become, since then, a much more international partnership in many areas. We have been a free international country until recently when Obama was foolishly elected president. No president before has EVER bowed down to any leader of any nation. If we don’t do something about Obama and his program to Socialization in the USA we are doomed. I think that is the primary priority of Americans right now if we don’t want to lose our freedoms and Obamarizing the Constitution to his persanal satisfaction.

Let’s concentrate on the present dangers to America and stop the petty bickering and minor things we can control and fix right now. God bless America. The land of the free and the brave.

Do you seriously believe that countries like Iran, North Korea and other midle eastern countries would hesitate to use WMD’s if they had them. Do you think that Iraq would not use WMD’s after Saddam bragged that he had them and after he had already killed thousands with gas attacks? It’s OK to be against any type of war, but we can be drawn into another world war that will probably begin in the middle east. No one has asked our soldiers to fight, they volunteered. The military is not a campus political organization and it is certainly not a democracy. People who enlist know the risks, yet they still enlist. A mother once asked me why soldiers were treated so mean at boot camp. The only reply I could give her was that they were trying to wean her son away from his mother. Whether he lived or died would depend on the soldier next to him in the fox hole, not his mother and they were trying to train her son to rely on his fellow soldiers. I don’t think anyone enjoys going to war, but you could not be in America enjoying its bounty had America not gone to war. The hard part to justify is going to war and not trying to win which is a ridiculous waste of American lives.

I don’t know American history, but the French were instrumental in helping us defeat the British for our own Liberty!!!

Why did it escape you that THEY attacked US. And if you think we wont ‘finish’ it–you are sadly mistaken. As are they. Our economy will be diverted from ‘oil’ but please understand, we must and will establish ‘control’ of the oil producers—which do you think is next?
My hopes include the swift demise of the United Arab Emirate, but Pakistan and Iran first. We are NOT, nor have we ever been, a pacifist nation. So, you just keep on crying while my son keeps you free, as I did for you.

Die choking

If you would read the founders writings you would know where Ron Paul gets his thoughts on the subject of war and such. We should have no entangling alliances we should be friends with all who wish to be friends. If a country doesn’t wish to deal with us as a nation then don’t deal with them. But our government tries to impose their will on other countries all over the world, then we are hated because of it.

Had our country been truly sovereign over the past century, and had our own leaders made decisions on our nation’s behalf, I believe our involvement in wars would have been quite different. In fact, I believe the progression of world history would have been quite different. Instead, we have been steered and manipulated by a group of global elite, powerful enough to control our money, our elected leaders and our destiny. The USA has been used to wield power over the world, toward the setting up of a global agenda, and now it is complete and our uselfulness to them has run out. The target is now on us for destruction.

I really think that, but for the influence of those desiring power, peoples, if left alone, would want only peaceful co-existence for the most part. We have all been deceived in order to control our thinking, so that we will willingly do their bidding (as in fight in wars and support their agendas.

Rand Paul, like his father, has the voice of a true patriot. A voice of reason in an insane world. One can never be sure in our world of complete deception, though. I have read a few times that Ron Paul (don’t know about Rand) is a Freemason, which, if true, gives one pause. But if Rand is who he claims to be, then we need more like him.

So what is wrong with Ron Paul being a Freemason? I personally would have more faith in him knowing he is an upright man and Mason.

Where have you been? The world elites are all Freemasons, among other things. Freemasonry is the basis for the Illuminati. The higher degrees are a very tight club, considering themselves above simple humankind. They are worshippers of Lucifer.

The members at the bottom have been kept unaware of this, unless and until they reach the higher degrees. Do some research and find out for yourself. This has become pretty common knowledge among those who are aware.

kate8, I’m not so sure that Freemasonry today is the same that is was when this country was founded. Perhaps these higher degrees were added since then by those who wanted to take over the organization, but yes, those in the higher degrees do worship Lucifer. I read where George Washington addressed the Freemasons and had the apron among other articles; but it is unclear whether he was an active member or an honorary member.

Ronald Reagan was strong, but he did not to my recollection engage in undeclared wars, although we were (and are) at war in the sense of a cold war.

being strong does not mean being a bully, like North Korea or Iran.
Being strong means having the courage of your convictions and standing on principle. This is something I feel that is lacking in public life in America today.

What is most worrying is the character assassination that takes place the minute someone with character pokes his head up and says something that challenges the establishment. They reveal their lack of substance by attacking the man and not the idea.

I think people jump to the wrong conclusion that Rand and Ron Paul are Pacifist. They believe in a storng Military, the best in the World. Here is the difference. They will refuse to use our Military for other countries meddelings and as some kind of international Police Squad. We need to get out of this police action in Iraq and the middle East. A strong national defense is necessary but it should be used to protect our Nation and land not the Way they are using and wasting our sons and daughters over there now. I was very happy for Rand Paul when he won the Primary. I Pray that he carries the election this fall. Listen to what he says beause that is what he will do. The Truth will take care of all the Wacko Maddows and msnbc’s in this world.

is that why we pulled the marines of Beirut, after losing 350 sleeping Marines and then pounced on Grenada? Or sent Omar Kadafi a love letter and blow-up his tent and some of his family? ~ Reagan was a bad ass, arms of hostages? Public perception is everything I suppose. He was a little salty, it’s not to be denied but so was Captain Kangaroo and Mr. Peppermint and they documented their strips on a bloody battlefield, offer one breath short a full measure.

As far as Rand Paul, we’ll see, and regards the Maddow interview, Rand did open the door, with his comments on decriminalization. While he did did avoid her leading questions to explore his position not with greatest of skill, but never the less, refused to be pinned, stating, he’d voted in favor of the law. ( but it leaves one to wonder why) Politics is so tricky!

I understand his point, ~ the laws enacted created reverse discrimination in an attempt to address discrimination. It’s been a sore spot for many of us for a long time and feeling still run high when it’s debated.

Maddow wasn’t off base with him, she was doing her job, much like a conservative host might, she was attempting to bring forward something she might find useful. I do wish he’d offered a stronger argument for his position besides personal property and personal rights, highlighting the downside of nondiscrimination laws and quota’s systems being truly discriminatory in nature.

He’s bright, I look forward to good things from him. Now that said, can he compete, be his own man and stay clear of the influences of lobbyist, pac money and Cooperate America. I hope so.

It for us to see such things as possible.

Reagan would not have invaded Afganistan or Iraq, when we should of Nuked Saudia Arabia. Paul, Like Reagan, sees nation building for the complete injustice and waste of American lives for what it is. You think we couldn’t kill Osama Bin Laden if we wanted? You kill the threat. The USA is playing games with American lives. The status quo needs to end and we need to strengthen our military and secure our borders. That’s what a real man does!

RAND PAUL WAS VOTED IN FOR THE SIMPLE REASON THAT HE IS NOT FROM THE OLD BOYS CLOB AND IS A WASHINGTON OUTSIDER. WE HAVE HAD THE OLD BOYS CLUB AND SEE WHERE WE ARE NOW? WE WANT NEW BLOOD AND NEW ENERGY AND IDEAS; NOT JUST SPEND, SPEND, REGIONAL PORK, AND YOU DO ME AND I’LL DO YOU. WE WANT SOMEONE WITH THE INTEGERITY TO BE HIS OWN MAN AND TO VOTE AS HE THINKS IS FOR THE PEOPLEN NOT JUST TO GET RE-ELECTED, i STAND WITH PAUL RAND AND I WILL PRAY FOR HIS SUCCESS.

AMEN:

NO, Shirley. I doubt that’s the real reason.
Whether many here believe it, or not…. More and More and More of our fellow Countrymen are reading not only these comments… but they are googling across the Internet to research what they need to know, so they can fight for the right things and not be fooled by sophistry and the falsely pretended General Welfare Clause.

You take out of the Constitution – The General Welfare Clause – and many of the damaging actions committed by Hamilton and Marshall would have been impossible to enact.

There needs to be a higher passion for the intentions of Thomas Jefferson.
This is where the American People have lost their way.

Try reading “Hamilton’s Curse” ….. then, you’d know what I mean.

Not True. We traded arms through Iran to the Contras in Central America.

Ronald Reagan is famous for tax cuts to stimulate the economy. He inherited an economy from Jimmy Carter that was the worst sense the Great Depression also. Reagan’s deficit spending in his first two years was about two billion dollars. In less than two years Obama is almost up to two trillion dollars. Obama has only government jobs saved and created to show for it. Reagan reduced government regulation that allowed businesses to make a come back in addition to his tax cuts.

Not true, Sir ~ It was inflation ! And Jimmy inherited it from Nixon.

and Nixon got it for honoring his Campaign Promise, to get us out of Nam. As the nation shifted out of the warring mode.

The excess of the 60′s brought about economic side effects. Simple cause and effect. Over simplifying it really, not having the time to go there. ( look it up)

When the soldiers start coming home from these present wars, you can rest assure it’s going to affect the economy again. Where it be inflation or depression, I’m not sure ~ but difficult times lay ahead.

So don’t race out and buy more then you can handle.

I guess you are not old enough to remember that time period or you would not make a statement like that. Jimmy Carter is know as one of the worst Presidents in history. Good Presidents do not get thrown out of office after one term. Even Carter’s peanut farm was going into bankrupcy from poor management. When he left the White House he was broke and needed the money he would have made as president to survive. When you cannot do it yourself you teach it. He finally made money by selling books to people who new less than him. Although he was considered book smart he never was able to apply the knowledge he had to make things better. Look it up.

Carter did not follow Nixon as President. He followed Ford so I know you do not understand that time period. It has become popular on the left to explain the failure of leftest policies by blame. Excuses are always followed by failure. The left has no shortage of excuses. When you are president for four years you either leave things better or worst. Ronald has been credited for revitalizing America. Carter is known as a one term failed presidency.

This country was served better by Reagin than any President in the last 60 years

well people are endearing of him, it’s true. If you go back 70 years, my money would be on Truman.

James,
His own party in Congress was dragging him down. One man can only do so much.
And maybe, James, if he was such a Big Government Growther, you can explain to me why the Democrats were crying in anguish that he was “cutting the budget to the bone!”?

>>”And maybe, James, if he was such a Big Government Growther, you can explain to me why the Democrats were crying in anguish that he was “cutting the budget to the bone!”?”<<

because he was guilty of both! Must like many of the things Reagan did and said. Give it to you with one hand and take it away with the other. And rarely the same people. ~ Some got well over it and some got sick. The one that got well, sing his praises and still do. Wealthy,upper and some middle management type folks, people that have by hook or crook, stuff a little money back, roll-over Ira's , mutual funds etc. Day Trader, with solid pensions and the likes. These people loved Reagan.

Working folks got the joy of working two jobs for the price of one and we've never regained the loss to this day. Now we have a class of "working poor" that grows larger each year.

A great day for the snake is a bad day for the frog. While the snake can't imagine why the frog is so unhappy. ~ They just need to hop faster! ~ lazy ole frogs! Get what they deserve.

The two-worker family was created by the Big Government growth under Jimmy Carter. Don’t put that on Reagan. And don’t forget Congress. The President can only veto the Bills and hope that Congress doesn’t override that veto. If you don’t like working twice as hard to support a family decently, then vote for people who promise to shrink the size of our Leviathan Government.

Ronald Reagan issued more vetoes (78) than any president in my lifetime (60 years). 12% of them were overridden by Congress.