I think it a sad day, when people feel required to listen to other people to know whats right or wrong. These notions of basic right a wrong come to us early, without much outside help.

But there is always some ~ that question and wish to test the boundaries.

However, in the matter of homosexuals, it’s more a matter of nature placing the wrong spirit in the wrong body. That doesn’t explain all cases but the majority. It’s our job to accept them as we might any natural occurring abnormality AND that’s very hard for us to accept much less do. ~ That’s why I call it a “job”. They are whole and complete human being and it’s not contagious. They are “givers” by nature and not”takers” above average intelligence and didn’t ask for this social cure. They can’t stop being what they are but only hide it for your benefit, fearing certain rejection and ridicule.

Just understand accepting is not condoning or supporting. When you love people as you were taught, we learn tolerance and look for the good in all things. Look harder! Evidently there are many gays in the military. I’ve heard Lawrence of Arabia and Napoleon were both gay men. I’ve heard Edger Hover was gay. I don’t know it fact and I really don’t want too. It’s really none of my business and doesn’t take away the contributions each gave to history and their fellowman.

bob wire you maybe right but if you belive in god and or have read the bible even god has vary little understanding for gays he distroyed two whole city,s full of them and turned lot,s wife to salt for turning around and looking but that is bible history not liberal history, am i a religious fanatic no do i believe what the bible saz yes,the bible saz it is an abomination to the lord, but you can think what ever you want

Yes Marvin, You are right, in the early books such stories were told of such things and considered wicked. If you remember the story, it’s said that wickedness abound on all level. ~I’ll spare everyone the graphic details, but you get my drift. And for “all this wickedness” God laid waste to these cities.

But along came Jesus that bought the Jewish People revisions and addendum that superseded prior tribal laws. One that encouraged us tolerance and to love our brother unconditionally. Telling the peoples that, “as you judged, you too will also be judged”. Telling each man and woman, they answered to only one God and he was the light and the way and to follow him.

there’ many wonderful stories in the Bible. It seems the earlier laws used the carrot and stick approach in direct people, suggesting to us a mean spirited jealous God,one that was quick to “punch your ticket” for disobeying. An element of “fear” was used.

Of the two, I prefer Jesus’s teaching and concepts of God’s Law and that’s what I “attempt” to abide in today and of course the Laws of Moses, the 10 commandments delivered by God’s own hand as the story goes And it “AIN”T” easy to do!

Do you know where the 10 commandments or the Gospels address Homosexuality?

Being non Jewish of little importance, ` I’m more of a spiritual person while these wonderful stories have helped me find my way thou I do stray at times.

Homo’s were created by the same God as I, like myself, offered no options of parents, gender, race or health. Who could ask for such a cure as be “divided” in one body?

just my thoughts on the matter.

Tessa—I agree with you. Good post.

Tessa, Clinton enacted the policy to protect gays, you know there are dangers of being openly gay, like being killed, beat-up, and ect

You are correct Kim! If they do pass this thing, I’m afraid the use of HRBs will be increased!!

Claire,
I guess if they repeal DADT then the militant gays like you see in the gay pride parades that are serving will just sit around in their bustiers at night, huh? that wouldn’t cause any problems, would it??? Yeah wright!!!

Joe H–I was speaking about the stupid parades. I can understand why the straight guys don’t want the gay men hanging around. I wouldn’t either. This repeal is not official yet. It has to go through the Senate and I believe the Pentagon has to mull over it. This is an issue that should be left well enough alone. Like libertytrain suggested, maybe the soldiers and military personnel should vote for it, not the politicians.

Whoops– not “vote for it” but do the voting on it.

Claire,
I agree, the Odummer has already made up his mind to throw a bone to the gays to get their votes either for him or as a favor to his buddies!!!

It’s like “home-phobic”…just another word somebody made up.

JC,
The first time I saw that commercial, I was still chuckling half an hour later! I respect the mans service record, I do, but you can’t buy stand-up that good!!!

First of all, I’m not a “Lib” (far from it).

I clearly stated most “Americans” agree. I’m referring to the numerous polls that have been conducted, including the most recent Washington Post/ABC Poll showing 75% of Americans support a repeal of DADT. You can Google it.

But since you brought up the Military views on the subject, I should point out that The Military Times polls annually on this topic, and the polls are shifting in favor of appeal. Since 2003, opposition to gays serving has dropped from 61% to 50%. Moreover, the Defense Department survey in 2009, of active-duty battalion troops, found “found that two-thirds of troops do not think that knowing there are openly gay and lesbian soldiers in their unit would negatively affect their ability to carry out a mission. A similar number of troops did not think that openly gay or lesbian service members would harm their unit’s ability to effectively work together as a team.”

About my logic about our allies allowing gays: I’m not suggesting we should do the same simply because they have done so. But we can learn something from our allies. They have had allowed openly gay people to serve without compromising troop readiness and cohesion, for over a decade now. That’s the salient point.

Here is what I am saying. I know a lot of people in the military. When asked privatly, most all disagree with openly gay people in the military. If polled, they would not admit that. Political correctness is the problem. I also would not put much stock in a ABC poll. It’s about the same as polling Rush’s audience on a given issue. But, this is place where we can agree to disagree. Have a nice day Tessa!

>>>I know a lot of people in the military. When asked privatly, most all disagree with openly gay people in the military. If polled, they would not admit that. Political correctness is the problem.<<<

Ah! makes perfect sense to me! A Jaded Polling! by virtue of the question! Maintaining Plausible Deniable, two answers to one question by the same person. Much like, racial overtones is a non-issue and a liberal fabrication?

You framed it so well!

Tessa,
Of course they allow them to serve openly, they don’t want to have to deal with them. You DO know what happens to a gay if he or she is captured by a muslim enemy don’t you???

oh really! and where did you acquire such wisdom?

some of your facts are correct but hitler was a corporal and only had one medal for meritourious service not decorated by any means. he was basically a nobody. hitler was far left wing and like our current president, he did not have any experience but he surrounded himself with likeminded people.only radical left wing would have considered death camps.(death panels come to mind) go visit a death camp and maybe you will see. hitler was not anything like you say for his first two years he had concepts to help the people like obamas we need change. using this idea he drew the people into having false security and then after he won their trust, he, started to label the jews then he stated that the jews were the problem and then started to get rid of them obama has done the same with our healh care and our banks, now he will try the big oil claiming that these people are the problem i hope you get these facts and understand which way this country is really going and pray that they do not take away our rights to vote by november to stop their losses (hitler did this also)

Dave,

Friendly dictators supported by our leaders past and present.

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/US_ThirdWorld/dictators.html · Cached page

Where is the world do you get your ideas? ~ Who tells you such thing? Glenn Beck?

>>”Adolf Hitler (German pronunciation: [ˈadɔlf ˈhɪtlɐ]; 20 April 1889 – 30 April 1945) was an Austrian-born German politician and the leader of the National Socialist German Workers Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, abbreviated NSDAP), commonly known as the Nazi Party. He was the absolute dictator of Germany from 1934 to 1945, with the title of chancellor from 1933 to 1945 and with the title head of state (Führer und Reichskanzler) from 1934 to 1945.
A decorated veteran of World War I, Hitler joined the precursor of the Nazi Party (DAP) in 1919 and became leader of NSDAP in 1921. Following his imprisonment after a failed coup in Bavaria in 1923, he gained support by promoting “German nationalism”, “anti-semitism”, “anti-capitalism”, and “anti-communism” with charismatic oratory and propaganda.

Nazism (Nationalsozialismus, National Socialism) was the ideology and practice of the Nazi Party and of Nazi Germany.

It was a unique variety of fascism that involved “biological racism” and anti-Semitism.[9] Nazism presented itself as politically syncretic, incorporating policies, tactics and philosophies from right- and left-wing ideologies; in practice, Nazism was a far right form of politics

In many respects, Adolf would fit right in a right wing tea party crowd much easier then a Democrats weenie roast.

I hope your shocked! to not be, ~ means your post is disingenuous an a attempt to misinform

Fascism is a form of government that allows private ownership but retains the power to regulate what can be done with private property and private business. There is no denying the left wants to regulate everything in sight. Nazis were part of a National Socialist Party because they wanted power over all wealth created to redistribute it to who they saw fit. Getting rid of the Jews was part of that plan to redistribute wealth. The mistake of all socialists is to think they can create wealth by dividing it up between themselves. Eventually it dissipates when the free markets stop working because of regulation and lack or incentive. Hilter was very far left.

Hitlers publicly stated policy and his real policies,like many we know now, were not the same! If we access the private correspondance between himself and his staff and other world leaders, it becomes clear that he didn’t view Communism as an ideaological enemy, but as a competitor for the same votes! Hitler was far left!!

Boob Wienner,
Did you know that to copy someone’s work product and post it as yours is a crime its called “plagiarism.”
Now grow up and stop being a total butt head. And learn something and at least try to be able to open that closed mind of your.

They not afraid of her Dave ~ She serves us well and she’s a lot of fun to watch, much like Pentecostal Revival Come to Jesus Meeting! It’s no telling what might happen next! Much like 43, she gives us great ammo to throw back. ~ but the truth is, we don’t need anymore!

But don’t mistake amusement with Fear. ~ However if you find joy and comfort with such thoughts ~ by all means, please continue. It serves our purpose for you to feel this way. I’m only trying offer you insights. But to scoff the notion pleases me.

There is no denying the left fears Sarah Palin. They relentlessly attacked her and her children on a personal level to discredit her. You are a testament that it is still hapening now. Her biggest threat is that she is a positive role model for young woman. Something the left cannot tolerate as they fear losing that voting block.

The most expensive thing in the world is the lack of education. Sarah is a good exemple and W.

But the best example of all is Regni!!!!