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Obama The Hitman: First A Cleric, Who’s Next?

May 24, 2010 by  

Obama The Hitman: First A Cleric, Who’s Next?

The administration of President Barack Obama has itself tied up in quite a knot.

The administration that opposes enhanced interrogations, that wants to treat terrorists caught both on the battlefield and in country as common criminals, that wants to try suspected 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed in a New York City courtroom, that read Miranda rights to the foreign-born underwear bomber right away but delayed it for hours for the naturalized citizen Times Square bomber, has targeted an American citizen living in Yemen for assassination.

Of course, since the United States government has a policy against assassination that’s not what it’s being called. But what else do you call the order designating American-born radical cleric Anwar al-Awlaki as a target for a strike by a drone missile?

Awlaki is suspected by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) of actively plotting violence. He is described in The New York Times as “a charismatic preacher who has said it is a religious duty to attack the United States.” The CIA says it believes Awlaki’s rhetoric inspired Times Square attempted-bomber Faisal Shahzad.

Of course Shahzad’s visit to Pakistan where he met with a member of an intelligence group with ties to the CIA surely had nothing to do with the bomb attack, but that is a topic for another day.

Whether Awlaki gets blown to bits by a Hellfire missile or shot in the head by a sniper, he’s dead and the U.S. government has become judge, jury and executioner.

To eavesdrop on Awlaki’s telephone calls the CIA—because of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA)—would first be required to obtain a warrant from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. But to target him for death the CIA only needed approval from the National Security Council (NSC).

As former CIA lawyer Vicki Divoll told The Times, “Congress has protected Awlaki’s cell phone calls. But it has not provided any protections for his life. That makes no sense.”

I wonder if Awlaki will be read his Miranda rights before the missile explodes, or will Attorney General Eric Holder wait until afterwards and read them over Awlaki’s bits and pieces.

But wait. That might not be a problem because some in Congress want to take away Americans’ guaranteed citizenship rights if they target fellow citizens with terrorist violence.

Senator Joe Leiberman (I-Conn.), chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, said recently, “If you’re attacking your fellow Americans in an act of war you lose the rights that come with citizenship.”

And this is where it gets really sticky. The Obama administration has yet to call the Times Square bomb plot an act of terrorism. On the White House website it is referred to as the “Times Square incident.” Or, to paraphrase Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, it was a potential man-caused disaster.

We are no longer sliding down a slippery slope. Now we are cascading down a steep mountainside.

It began soon after 9/11 with the passage of the USA PATRIOT Act in the weeks following the attack. That act is already being used to strip U.S. citizens of their rights. Just ask Jose Padilla and Ashton Lundeby how that act is working out for them.

Now we have an administration that has shown a proclivity to use missile attacks from Predator drones to kill what it is calling insurgents or terrorists in Pakistan and Afghanistan—and killing innocents in the process—saying that it’s time to use them in a country we’re not currently at war with to kill an American citizen who hasn’t harmed anyone himself.

That same bunch doesn’t call planting a bomb in Times Square terrorism. But it warns that those who oppose its policies—and show their opposition by demonstrating and holding up signs outside the Capitol building and in cities and towns across the country—are potentially inciting attacks similar to Timothy McVeigh’s bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building.

If they think the rhetoric of Tea partiers—or Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck or whoever—is somehow inciting violence, how long is it before the administration starts authorizing drone missile attacks on them?

Apparently, all it takes to get on the CIA’s short list for a missile strike is for someone in the administration to decide you are inciting violence. That doesn’t bode well for a group that has drawn the ire of Obama, his administration, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Majority Leader Harry Reid, who are on record as considering Tea partiers, former military members and anti-healthcare reform protestors as Nazis and terrorists.

American citizens… beware… this administration thinks you’re more dangerous and deserve fewer rights than foreigners planting bombs on U.S. soil. And if you hear the far-off hum of an airplane or the whoosh of a missile being fired, run like Satan himself is on your heels.

But if you’re al-Qaida don’t worry. Holder will read you your rights and have a court appointed attorney standing by.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American who has been writing a newsletter since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • eddie47d

    Both Joe and Sheryl spelled Jehovah wrong but Tim got it right. Maybe the liberals know the Bible better than you.

    • libertytrain

      I’m not sure that it is necessarily wrong…just not the current more popular spelling -

      • JeffH

        libertytrain…birds of a feather…just can’t avoid the obvious.

      • libertytrain

        JeffH – with all that’s been posted today from the left, I have this image of a room deep in the WH where all they do is visit this site and post – and we’re paying their salaries – can you see it?

      • JeffH

        libertytrain…easy to imagine. It’s as if there is a manual of operation with specific guidelines. As you can see, never stray outside the guidelines.

      • libertytrain

        I wonder what the reward is for their posts that garner many replies?

      • JeffH

        libertytrain, probably as much as another gets for sitting on his/her arse…spread the wealth they say. It’s not about equal pay for equal work with them. Afterall, it is free money isn’t it?

    • timr

      I can only take credit for the correct spelling, because I have a brother who is a Jehovah Witness………….

      • JeffH

        …the only one to give you credit is yourself…now that’s interesting…timr giving himself a pat on the back…

      • libertytrain

        Well of course, that makes it correct.

      • timr

        LibertyTrain and JeffH………separated at birth………..

      • JeffH

        …far better than being seperated from the real world…Ask and you shall recieve…

  • WarriorH

    Will the courts uphold Miranda Rights voice mail messages?

  • Duston Rose, LTC USA (RET)

    The intent of Mr. Livingston’s article is obvious, which is to get everyone focused on the potential dangers we face when our fundamental constitutional rights are in anyway abridged. President Bush warned us of the “War in the Shadows” that would have to be fought in order to combat the world wide movement that al-Qaida purports to be. Unfortunately, our elected officials and the press have chosen to publicly discuss the methods used, and thus have brought the combatants “out of the closet”. Instead of keeping the “Black Arts” quiet, they continue to insist on giving our enemies all the help they need to stay one step ahead of us. A good case in point occurred a few years ago when a columnist announced to the world that the CIA was able to track Osama Bin Laden whenever he used his cell phone…which he stopped doing immediately thereafter. We do live in a very free society and we are right to question any government action or law that would limit it; however, we must also empower our government to protect us. If we choose poorly and are foolish enough to place our lives and treasure into the hands of those who are ill prepared to do so, then only God can help us. November cannot come soon enough

    • JeffH

      Duston Rose, LTC USA (RET), very well stated and “on target”.

    • 45caliber

      You are correct about the press. When Desert Storm came down some years ago now, a reporter one morning gave the exact location of one military unit – then he went on to tell exactly how many people they had, what they were armed with, the fact they didn’t have any ammo, etc. When I called about it, the news people said that the “people” needed to know what was going on. So I called a Congressman and that type of stuff stopped. No wonder the enemy calls our newsmen “spies”.

      • Pat R

        The Media has definitely changed their mind now! You can not force them to report the facts today.
        This is all because non of them have the balls to say anything honestly about what is really going on today. All of the network news agencies have been threatened to be shut down if certain subjects are discussed (ie: Birth certificate, SS # ) Some reporters have been shot, their homes fired into, and family threatened. This is totally insane!!
        IMPEACH Now!

    • timr

      Mr Rose…….I will ALWAYS salute the service that you and others have provided for us fellow Americans……..

      But Bush blew it……he just blew it………he had the World behind him after 9/11, and he could have fought this war like it should have fought it, NOT by invading Nation States, but by hunting down these RATS, where ever they were holed up………but when he went into Iraq, he dropped the ball…….too many resources were being channeled, to go after and stop an isolated enemy like Saddam……..and for 9 years, Aghganistan suffered, as did the hunting of Terrorist cells………..

      He let his “personal” goals, trump fighting these terrorists in a smart way…….Many Army Generals, said that going into Iraq would be catastrophic…….

      Like I said, the American Soldiers do their jobs better than ANY fighting force in the history of the World, they are Brave dedicated, and Isalute them everytime I visit my Father’s grave (Korean War Veteran)……and everytime I see my cousin, who was a medic in Vietnam…….

      Unfortunately, it is the Politicians who make the wrong decisions on War………..NOT the Soldiers…………

      God Bless you, LTC Rose……….

  • REX KIRKES

    obama is ruining the american way of life,if there is anything to this
    2012 stuff he will have us in world war 3 and there want be no election and he will stay in office destroying our way of life and all our freedoms as americans.It gets worse and worse the longer he is in office.(MY OPINION)I guess we can still say what we think!

  • http://comcast.net Charles Lindberg Ogle

    This is the only thing I have been able to praise Barack Husain Obama for doing…good going, president Obama!

    • Harald

      Keep looking, Charles. There’s plenty more! And you don’t have to use his middle name. But, if you do, please spell it correctly.

      • JeffH

        …sure you’re not tiny timr?

      • Da Norseman

        What, Harald, is it because you don’t like to hear his middle name because it sounds too Muslim for you?

      • timr

        You know exactly, why you use it, Da Norseman………so don’t insult us……….

      • JeffH

        timr with another “conspiracy” theory?
        Paranoia mind destroia

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear Charles Lindberg Ogle,
      If an administration can deny on a whim an American citizen his rights guaranteed by the 5th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution: “…nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law,” what other rights are you willing to allow an administration to deny? Whether it is an administration you agree with or not, do you feel safe ceding your rights over to a politician? What if the administration decides the 1st Amendment is no longer convenient, the 2nd, the 3rd, the 4th (which USA PATRIOT Act already does)? Is that okay with your? If you feel Awlaki’s actions constitute treason, Article 3 Section 3 explains how to deal with that. Blowing a person up with missile doesn’t fit the constitutional definition of due process.
      Sometimes, adhering to the Constitution is difficult. But the best time to make sure the Constitution is not shredded is when it is difficult to adhere to.
      Best wishes,
      Bob

  • Bob Wire

    Agreed , they should! That flags and alarms were going off everywhere I find it appalling.

    Obama is stuck in the middle, with that one. ~ This is a military he inherited , must use and depend on. But still! I’d like it much better to see some heads roll. I’m not sure that there wasn’t at some level. But embarrassing senior staff and not making gains toward resolve and resolution , but to only offer a show and “feel good” is not what Obama is about when stakes are so high. A Delicate situation. Stinks!

    Quote;”MR Livingston was just making a comparison in showing the
    hypocracy of the left by saying the Tea Partiers which is composed of
    genuine concerned americans citizens are terrorists, but at the same time refusing to condemn a actual terrorist act in New York as an isolated incident, and as usual the liberals misconstrue the whole”

    Hmm? really, I didn’t see it that way at all, I’ll read it again.

    We seem to be getting into “abstracted hypocrisy” of sorts, I see hypocrisy everywhere I look. This thread worries about down side of amended liberties and in the Arizona SB1070 thread we are celebrating amending liberties for everyone

    So we wish to ignore “who’s” liberties are affected blind to discriminating among laws and who they pertain too. ~ No longer a law for all but a law for each. I can’t prove I’m an American Citizen in 15 minute if you gave me an hour warning and had mother in tow. I might only have a copy of my birth certificate.

    • PragmaticSort

      We seem to be getting into “abstracted hypocrisy” of sorts, I see hypocrisy everywhere I look. This thread worries about down side of amended liberties and in the Arizona SB1070 thread we are celebrating amending liberties for everyone

      Looks like it only amends rights for those in our country illegally. Since when do illegals get full rights in any country? Send them back and severly penalize those that hired them. If a business cannot survive without illegals, too effin bad!

      • Bob Wire

        and exactly how do you know “these” illegals and deny them “these rights”? There a things referred to as “probable cause” of a commission of a crime. So what might be “probable cause” in such a case and “subject anyone” to their rights under law and due process.

        I assure you, being subjected to your rights is not always pretty or comfortable, much less affordable.

    • Doug

      Better get a Passport there hot wire if you don’t like the law then I suggest you get the Federal law revoked that’s all this law is about and actually enforcing it!

      • Bob Wire

        I don’t like the law and you won’t either for it going to cost you “CASH” and not do what you think it’s going to do. You’ve just sold one more personal freedom by appealing to simple thinking as the Pied Piper blows his flute and people walk lock step it the Ditto Head Ball.

      • JeffH

        Bob, as much as your comments are bassackwards so is your pied piper thought. The pied piper is your messiah and spiritual leader Barack Hussein Obama leading his sheeple off the cliffs edge.
        Nice that you to think so highly of Limbaugh though.

      • timr

        Barack ‘Hussain” Obama……….

        JeffH is proving my point for me………..don’t you think, American Citizen???

      • JeffH

        timr, and what point would that be? Possibly using an apostrophe in place of a quotation mark?

      • Cindy

        Wrong again Bob Wire;
        It will cost the taxpayers LESS because we won’t be paying for the illegal aliens welfare checks, food stamps, gov. subsidized housing, free medical care, schooling, transportation, or English speaking classes.
        Why don’t you actually read SB1070? It is a carbon copy of the Federal Govs. border law, with 2 exceptions that are actually a bit more lax and protect the illegals right against stopping/profiling, better than the stricter Fed. law.
        You are starting to appear a bit pathetic as you continue to slip your liberal spin, and speculative opinions into your eloquent speeches.

      • http://yahoo.com marc

        I agree cindy on all the above except english speaking class’s.The illegals that don’t speak english nor spainish but dialects from whatever province they’re from are being taught spainish becase english was never declared the official language of the united states.

      • Cindy

        Marc,
        That may be true in some places depending on the number of children and total resident population of Spanish speaking people, but in many places English speaking lessons for them are actually listed in the school budgets. They feel they will assimilate into society easier if they learn the language that the majority speaks. The exceptions to this would probably be the largest cities where they have large populations of only Spanish speaking people, who know no other language.

  • American liberal

    Tokyo Rose was a U. S. Citizen too…. She was convicted for her words…… And I would have been fine if we’d used a drone on her to….I’m not at all suprised the rightwingers on this site would defend her…. Some of you anyway would have defended her…. I’m also impressed that some of the conservatives on this site agree this artical is way over the top …..the content of this artical is at the very least unamerican … Talk about apologizing to the enemy?.. That’s exactly what this artical does….good for you President Obama….you can stick a drone when the sun doesn’t shine on any terrorist you can…this artical is ” apologizing to the terroist ” because our military uses drones on them… Tough..

    • Doug

      Maybe Obama good buddy Rev. Wright should be on the hit list to he is also Anti-American.

      Also Obama upset about the law in Arizona because he has not papers to prove he is a natural US CITIZEN!

      • Harald

        Bull! You just don’t want to believe that he is an American. Why? Because any excuse to rally against a black president will do. Right, wrong or indifferent. Why does intelligence scare you people so much?

      • JeffH

        AHHHH Harald…your racism is prevalent in most of your comments. Stop promoting what is not there…a liberal mantra to say the least.

      • timr

        Harald,

        People like JeffH and his buddies, have constantly denied that much of their hatred of Obama stems from Race…….They blurt out ethnic “slurs”, and then deny, that his backround and Parent’s origins, have nothing to do with their feelings towards him………

        Many of then claim NOT to be racist, but the hate tells us otherwise………They’v been trying their HARDEST to show to others, how “different” Obama is……..and “We want our Country Back”……….and he’s Muslim…….

        It’s all scare tactics rapped up in ignorance, and YES, this Country’s “bumpkin” population has floated to the surface…………make NO mistake about that………..

      • JeffH

        timr says: “It’s all scare tactics rapped up in ignorance, and YES, this Country’s “bumpkin” population has floated to the surface…………make NO mistake about that………” Racists? Only you know the truth of your racist vitriol! I hope you haven’t been teaching your rhetoric to the “inner-city” children you brag so mightily about helping.

        WOW! Now you’ve really gone and done it…again! Keep that fire burning deep inside your numb skull, your fellow numb skulls depend on it!

      • kate8

        Did you hate Bush because he was white? Because surely it couldn’t have been because you disagreed with his politics.

      • Stan B

        Hey dum dum OBUMMA is a MUSLIN, I didn’t say it he said it himself, where do you live under a rock ?????

      • http://Patrickdavis3@Mac.com Pat davis

        Harald,
        Stop trying to play us with this racist accusation. If you think that people are gonna sign on to that crap you must be a member of reverend Al Sharptons flock. The race card don’t work no mo.the more you try and play us, the more you turn people off. obama is da president at this very moment. Stop the campaign. White guilt got him elected so deal with it. The 18 to 25 crowd that also got him elected is on to him now. So kiss him goodbye in 2012.fool us once shame on you, fool us twice shame on us.

      • http://yahoo.com marc

        Dear Pat, I wish I could agree about not re-electing obama a 2nd term and the democrats. Do you expect the GOP back in office? Obama has already re-elected himself and the always disgruntled darkrace will back his re-election along with all the cockroaches from mexico here illegally given the right to vote by politicians from both parties always more concerned about being re-elected than displayed wisdom/leadership abilities. WE ARE SO SCREWED BY BOTH PARTIES IN OUR TWO DICTATORSHIP.

      • timr

        Harald,

        I couldn’t have said it better myself….

        Isn’t it funny them calling US Racists, when they are spending all day going after Obama’s ethnicity???……..

        They are same people who’s fathers held Hoses in Alabama in the 1960′s………….

      • JeffH

        timr says: “Isn’t it funny them calling US Racists, when they are spending all day going after Obama’s ethnicity???……..”

        You really need to get it correct before you insert your foot in your mouth! A little osmosis happening in your brain causing your dilemma?

    • American Citizen

      No, she spouted hate speech which the Constitution does not give us the right to do. We even have laws against it. We are not allowed to preach treason and sedition or to holler “fire!” in a crowded theater. There is a limit to free speech. The Constitution is a political document and the free speech means we can criticize the government without fear of retribution. And before the left starts in on me, there is a difference between criticizing the government and hate speech. I don’t see the conservatives preaching that Obama should be taken out in any way other than the ballot box. That’s not hate speech nor treason.

      • timr

        American Citizen,

        I agree with you that there is a difference………but you have to admit, that there is alot of reference to his name and his ethnicity, that is very much deliberate………..and you know why????

      • JeffH

        timr, “but you have to admit”, all that is needed is for “YOU TO ADMIT” your constant abuse of Obamas ethnicity as an excuse for his Marxist qualities!

  • Jack

    I don’t completely agree with this article for a couple of reasons,
    Firstly being born a natural american citizen does not exclude you
    from becoming a enemy of the state, Secondly being a cleric also doesn’t exclude from anti-americanism. Happenings of terror have been the norm lately so how do you deal with it. This Alwaki character has
    made his own bed by his rhetoric, and now he is suspected of being part of the 9/11 terror attack. He is hiding for a reason, but there are ways to get rid of him without hurting innocent people.
    The post by American Liberal accuses the right wing of cheering for the terrorists, which proves just how far out of the loop the left
    really is, MR Livingston was just making a comparison in showing the
    hypocracy of the left by saying the Tea Partiers which is composed of
    genuine concerned americans citizens are terrorists, but at the same time refusing to condemn a actual terrorist act in New York as an isolated incident, and as usual the liberals misconstrue the whole
    article by trying to make a truism into a false premise. Alwaki so far
    hasn’t done anything but use hate rhetoric so he should be under some
    suspicion until his involvement is proven, and if he is he should be
    called what that makes him a Terrorist, in the mean time monitor everything he does and says. You just don’t kill someone because you think he’s a terrorist, an american citizen must be assumed innocent until proven guilty. The last Fort Hood shooting and the other two failed attempts to kill americans were terrorist acts, so the Obama
    group should own up to the facts.

  • http://yahoo.com marc

    obama did not put a hit on this radical death-embracing,life-hating cleric. He warned him publicly what other were planning. Since his warning two american tourists have been kidnapped. I suggest we swap obama,pelosi,da clintons,jimmy(mama’s peanut head)carter,harry reid,john kerry,bush sr.+bush jr. for the unsuspecting tourists. You can have’em and we don’t want them back.

    • Bob Wire

      Throw Rush & Glenn in and you got a deal! And if you’ll thrown in Palin I’ll dance at your next wedding!

      • JeffH

        Why Bob, you disappoint! Who’s going to run the country if they’re included in the deal? Afterall, there are some that feel that way!

      • timr

        Certainly not those 3 idiots………

        Someone has to stay home and take care of the Palin kids and grand kids…………

        I doubt if beck has “sired” any children…………

      • JeffH

        …love it when the real timr bares his fangs…and to think you had the nerve to compare anothers remarks as childish…I much prefer you this way…

      • timr

        Thanks jeffH……I’ll take that as a compliment………

      • JeffH

        …it really wasn’t meant to be, I just don’t care for fakes!

    • Stan B

      mARC, I COULDN’T HAVE SAID IT BETTER, god bless the usa, and PLEASE GOD DO WHAT MARC SAYS, I second the motion…AMEN

      • http://yahoo.com marc

        Stan,Obama certainly does a lot of lip-flapp’in. I’m stunned by the way our media gives out so much information that compromises our ability to effectivly stop those that live to hate. It’s obvious that this cleric and those like him are too willing to commit murder against the the unsuspecting. Why our president would make such a public statement can only be a warning to all cleric’s committed to gihad to beware,go into hiding. Where is osama bin hidin?

  • angel-wanna-be

    I agree bob, who’s next on the attack list?__I not only fear where America’s headed under this Administration, it’s the confusion they cause, the lack of experience, the language they portray and retract at will, the division they are causing on our own soil. Siding with another country’s President, against the American people. I truely believe God has allowed Obama to stand for now. Those that voted Obama in office, are now also suffering, the hope and change they wanted, along with those of us who didn’t vote for him.__The lesson is, to be careful what we pray for, because we might get it__Obama is living proof!__I must ask again, hows the hope and change working out for you now, kool-aid-ites?

    • Bob Wire

      support SB1070 and maybe your children will find out who’s next?

      • angel-wanna-be

        BOB WIRE, soooo whats the big deal about showing legalization papers?__DO YOU HAVE ID?__DON’T YOU HAVE TO SHOW IT, WHEN STOPPED BY THE POLICE?__NO BODY’S SPECIAL BUDDY, GET OVER IT???

      • JeffH

        Well ole Bob boy…seems Americans like the Arizona legislation a little better than you do.

        I know this is the despicable “to you” FOX poll but it mirrors the countries support for the law and the issue of illegal immigration.

        Poll shows that most US residents agree with Arizona immigration SB1070 law…Thursday, a new Fox News poll showed that by a 2-1 margin, most people in the US would like a law in their state similar to SB1070 immigration law that Arizona just passed. 65% of people said that they want police to question people they think may be in the country illegally.

        I might add that the “Rasmussen Poll from a year ago(Thursday, March 26, 2009)Shows Americans Favor Stricter Local Immigration Enforcement”.
        The poll shows that 67% of Americans would favor local police conducting surprise raids where immigrants congregate daily to find work. Only 24% disagree with the practice.

        Results also reveal that 68% of Americans favor stricter sanctions against companies that hire undocumented workers. Only 22% oppose stricter sanctions.

        More information on these polls can be found at Rasmussen Reports

        •Other polls conducted by Rasmussen show that 79% of voters think the United States should beef up its military presence on the Mexican border.
        •73% of voters think police should automatically check a person’s immigration status during traffic violations

        Where are the feds when you need them?

      • Bob Wire

        No doubt about it Jeff, I’m in a minority.

        Here’s the problem I see, ~ Most all people are supportive of the “intent” of SB 1070. Me included. It’s not the “intend” that concerns me but the realization, it can’t be enforced, long enough and consistent enough to ever work! making it just one more law on the books that can’t be enforce while each one of us gave away some of our rights as being American.

        You are talking about mother’s going to the store and not returning? Or you are talking about, a mother being detained and having 3 children at home. ~ You are talking about juvies, infants, that the city, or state must “handle” in some fashion.

        We talk about this like it’s a matter, just cuffing and stuffing! Sending a person on a one way bus ride!

        Well I hate to pop everyone”s bubble but that’s not the way it’s done. It a little more complicated, more involved and it takes money! Them don’t have money! So don’t look to them for the money, that’s why they are here, money and safety. So where do you think this money is going to come from?

        This Bill, will created a industry if it’s planed to stay enforced. The bill it’s self , just a tiny seed. And I don’t think you’ll like what grow out of it.

      • JeffH

        Bob, spare me the “bleeding heart”, but free speach is free. Just enforce the laws, as in ICE enforce, and we wouldn’t be faced with this crap, would we? Calderon gets a standing ovation for trashing America at the White House? Despicable at best!…perhaps a “shoot on sight” order would be more effective at stopping the illegals from crossing the line and turn them around a little quicker. I’ll donate my time and resources to such an effort if it helps ease the financial burden of the government doing their JOB!

      • American Citizen

        I take it you haven’t read the bill either, just as Holder and Obama didn’t before they opened mouth and inserted foot. States have the right to defend their citizens. The governor of Arizona is only enforcing the Federal laws. We all have to show ID all the time. I’m even asked for picture ID when I go to the hospital or doctor’s office for treatment, to cash a check anywhere but my own bank, etc. Get a clue.

      • Steve

        Bob with the “Wires crossed”
        Doesn’t seem to matter to you if your facts are accurate or not, you just throw them out there and hope they’ll stick.
        The issues of an illegal alien getting detained, or arrested are EXACTLY THE SAME as any legal mother of father getting detained, or arrested. If there are kids at home the cops send Childrens Services Div. over to the house, and if the children are of the age that they need supervision they provide it.

        I concur with JeffH, “spare us the bleeding heart” PLEEEEEASE!

      • timr

        JEFFH,

        You don’t give a damn about anyone, do you??……
        Your’e one selfish S.O.B.

      • JeffH

        Now timr, you know that’s not true…see, you’ve hurt my feelings again by calling me an SOB! If you want to play and pretend the part, don’t say those mean things…so insensitive you liberal hacks are!

      • JLC

        Bob Wire — Support SB 1070, and maybe YOUR children will grow up speaking English!

      • WarriorH

        Have you read the bill – NO. Have you read the bill – NO. Have you read the bill – NO.

        Appears as though there are now two parties of NO/Know/NO????

        These frauds are a disgrace to humankind.

      • JLC

        Warrior H — As a matter of fact, I HAVE read the bill! Furthermore, I was familiar with both La Raza, and La Reconquísta long before they became political issues. Look up “Treaty of Guadaloupe-Hidalgo” and see the extent of the territory that La Reconquísta wants to see returned to Mexico. Quite a chunk of ground!

      • JLC

        Postscript — For the benefit of those readers that may not understand Spanish, “Reconquísta” means exactly what it looks like — “Reconquest!”

    • Harald

      Angel, circumstances require some lateral thinking. You should be thankful for a leader with nuanced ambiguity. But you don’t like that, nor decisive action. So what do you like?
      The present status of the world need it more than a young Bush just firing indiscriminately and killing, injuring thousands of Americans.
      Frankly, his master,Cheney, and he himself should be invited to The Hague.

      • JeffH

        …and perhaps in due time you too shall be escorted to the gallows…

      • jbird

        Nuanced ambiguity? Where I come from that means straddling the fence. This administration isn’t fence straddling, it’s driving the whole herd toward fascism.

      • Da Norseman

        The Hague is a BIG joke just like the U.N. and some of these other crackpot leftist garbage that has a soft spot for anyone who is an adversary of this country.

      • timr

        Spoken like the typical, narrow, American mind……….Da Norseman…

      • rwnut

        timr…You’re finally admitting that you don’t consider yourself American.Wait a minute,maybe you’re an illegal alien!Tell me it’s just another conspiracy theory.

    • http://yahoo.com marc

      Obama will be re-elected a 2nd term. In fact he’s already proclaimed it. The republicans don’t have a viable candidate.After 8yrs. of bush jr. Nepotism in the the white house and now obamawama. muslim/socialist/communist/gift of gab/puppet/of the dark race/PCorrect. Unless,Sara(know nothing)palin of the teabag party/the republicans answer to h.clinton can make as many empty promise’s as obama did and win the know nothing peace prize on rhetoric alone in her quest for fame/fortune/historical/legend etc. obama will be back. Years ago C.C.Revival sang a song “Who’ll Stop the Rain?” Its actually “REIGN” confusion on the ground/trying to find the sun/son etc.

  • American liberal

    I’m defending the use of these drones… But let me remind you that the last administration used them too… And I don’t care if Awlikis Maranda rights are pinned to a drone… As long as he gets what he deserves….And I don’t care that Awliki hasn’t personally killed any Americans… That’s like defending Osama Bin Ladin because he only ordered the 9/11 attacks , he’s just as guilty as the terrorist who flew the planes…and that’s exactly what this artical does….do you know what these people like Rush, Hannity , Beck , Palin or the authors on this site really mean when they say ” keep your Powder dry”?? What they really mean is you poor or middleclass do the attacking and us millionairs will cheer you on….I’d like see 1 of them say They’d lead the attack…and if any of these rightwing cowards like Beck, Rush, Palin… Or any of them ever urged an attack on our government then they should be arrested as a domestic terrorist….once that happens they’ve past up what’s concidered free speech ..

    • Infidel

      They aren’t attacking America.

      But nobama is activly attacking them for speaking out against him/it.

      Double standards, gotta love ‘em…

    • JeffH

      American liberal, it is unfathomable to you and your hack buddies that Beck, Palin, Limbaugh, Hannity, O’Reilly can have more listeners these days than your messiah BHO can. I know who’s doing the most damage to this country. Just a hint for you…the guy at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave is still running the scam on you and I.

      Awlaki could have been silenced many times before now and I’m quite sure it has happened to others, before JFK and after, by the CIA.
      It should just be “business as usual” for these guys.

      • Harald

        And, Jeff, your point for clear action is??

      • JeffH

        VERY easy Harald…SHOOT TO KILL!

      • timr

        And JeffH……are you STILL watching beck & Hannity……???
        I feel sorry for you, because their Books, are probably the only one’s you’ve read……….

        Sad……….

      • JeffH

        timr, save your “pity” for someone who cares! Sad? I’ll go out on a limb and say you are fibbing a bit with your pity and sadness.
        Say what you honestly think…timr.

      • WarriorH

        Actually Beck and Michael Savage. They both ROCK!

      • Mick for thought

        Beck is the other side of the coin of Oberman except he keeps crying on public TV. Like Oberman he connects dots that exist only in his own mind.

    • Joncar

      amer lib
      Snot brain, or perhaps —– head would be a better name for you. It’s for sure your head is full of one or the other. You must be kin to someone in the administration! Just trying to reason with the way you think makes me want to puke.

    • http://GOGGLE vaksal

      AMERICAN LIBERAL,YOU ARE A LEFTWING HACK,AND A COMMUNIST,JUST WHAT YOU POST,DO IT IN ISREAL AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.OH NO YOU HAVE TO POST YOUR ANTI-AMERICAN PRO-JEWISH LOGIC.GO TO ANOTHER SITE TROUBLE MAKER. AND BIBLE READING CHRISTAINS ARE GREAT AS SO ARE REDNECKS,AND THE TEA PARTY.LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC.

      • Stan B

        AMEN AMEN AMEN AMEN AMEN AMEN….

  • s c

    Zowie! Thin-skinned ultralib space cadets want it both ways (ANYTHING to protect der Obummer). When an anti-American, ultraliberal progressive tries to talk like a conservative, it means ONE thing. It means there are MANY fence-sitting ‘moderates’ who have to be wooed in upcoming elections.
    Hence, der Obummer’s hypocrisy gets energized in an attempt to cater to fence-sitters and a few potential Republicans whose RINO ways tempt them to start whining about the head dictator’s need to be ‘sensitive’ and “reach out.”
    Time to suck down the pepto. It’s PUKING time AGAIN.

    • American Citizen

      Moderates are “middle-of-the-roaders” and we know what happens when we stand in the middle of the road. They wait to see which way the wind is blowing, have no center, and as far as I am concerned, are weak. They cannot be trusted.

      • rockinroll1064

        HAHAHA!”we all know what happens when we stand in the middle of the road”!That’s kind of like “if you have an open mind,your brain will fall out”!I’ve heard this a lot from folks who couldn’t even finish high school!I’ve got news for you, pinheads,it’s harder to keep an open mind than just say NO to everything your little brain doesn’t understand!

      • kate8

        He who won’t take a stand, stands for nothing.

    • rockinroll1064

      stupid windows popping upand messing up where my replies end up!

  • Chief Eagle

    I agree with Joe Myrick who wrote above in his paragraph.

    The Lord caused a delusion to come over many millions of Americans to vote for ‘Barry’ the foreign agent from Indonesia and born in Kenya.
    God always creates the means to punish Christians and other Americans for our unthinkable and wicked, national sins. Our Lord took care of Israel’s sins in all of O.T. history; only a fool would think we will get away with abortion, homosexuality, white collar corruption and gang violence in our largest cities. We deserve whatever the Lord providentially brings to us in the form of punishments.

    I have prophetically warned our most conservative politicians like Boehner and DeMint about Soetoro not being ‘a natural born citizen’ including letters to our Supreme Court members as to these facts. They are all afraid and will not deal with matters at hand in our beloved nation.

    Illegals need to be shot at to scare them home. We are creating our own national down fall, at the hands of a Muslim who ‘no doubt’ has never taken time to even becoming a naturalized citizen of the United States of America.

    Christians, please pray fervently for a totally new Congress and an ‘American Made’ President who will stop border crossings of terrorists and illegals. Our government has a list of terrorists who have been caught coming from various foreign nations.

    Pray for America!! Obama is about to wilfully and fully destroy our financial security as Ben Laden tried by destroying our Twin Towers, the symbols and reality of our financial markets and national stability and sovereignty.

    • Bill

      AMEN

      GOD always wins.

      • Mick for thought

        I suppose God does always win. 3 major religions pray to him for help against their enemies. Hope he is listening to our prayers not the Islamic fundamentalist.

    • Harald

      Please, Chief Eagle, stay up there in the clouds of whatever you have been smoking. The Lord will thank you for that.

    • American liberal

      Owldog… Good post… And I agree…. The constitution and bill of rights was written as an example as to how the founding fathers believed all people should be treated everywhere…..” All men were created equal” means much more than just Americans should be treated….

      • Cindy

        anti-American libturd
        GAWD YOU ARE F.O.S. It was written for the American citizens, NOBODY ELSE!! Where the h*ll do even you come up with this crap you post?
        Are you really so ignorant as to think it was written for other countries and other people? France? Mexico? England?
        Gawd, get a grip little boy…..

      • Mick for thought

        Cindy,
        America has always had greater influence in the world with the power of our example rather than the example of our power.

      • Cindy

        Our Constitution and our Republic has had an effect on other countries wanting the same Mick, but the statement posted was that our Constitution was written as an example for other countries, and that is PURE BULL SHIRT!! It was written for us…Period!

      • timr

        American Liberal,

        The problem, since 9/11, is that we Americans now want to separate ourselves from the World………..WE… are the only ones who ever have been attacked……..WE ….. are the only peoples of the World who deserve freedom……..WE …..are the only Country who should dictate to others as to what’s BEST for them…………It’s called arrogance and hubris, and it’s turning this Country into angry red-necks……and militia Groups………….

        Americans used to be more united, when we had The Soviet Union around……like we had one comman enemy, we could blame everything on…….

        Now, we are the only Super Power left and we are now fighting a Cold War right here in this Country instead…………

        This Country is NOT going anywhere, people. We are strong, we are industrious (although, not lately), and we pick ourselves up when things are not going well………..

        So, to all of you Obama haters out there……..MEWSFLASH!!!…….We are NOT losing our Liberty or our Freedoms or our Country……..so take a look at other Countries out there, and then decide…….How bad is it here………….

    • http://none Tzion-Ben-Judah

      Chief Eagle.You are so right but please don’t forget to pray for the Peace of Jerusalem as Psalm 122:06 asks us to do.Let us not turn our backs on our only friend ISRAEL.Obama did and look at what is happening to this country.I am not by nature an alarmist but I don’t think that nature turning against America is just chance either.If the Administration puts presure on Israel ,God will apply twice the presure on this nation because of the Pharoah in the White House.Unfortunately it rains on the just and the unjust.But GOD will protect HIS people.Thaqnk you chief for your wise statement.SHALOM my brother.

      • timr

        Hey Judah……..we can longer afford to giving Israel a Free pass……..They insult us and make us look like idiots, yet they are benefitting by American soldiers dying in their part of the world……

        Tell me, name one Israeli soldier that died in the Gulf War, or this latest war in Iraq……………..

        The answer is NONE………

        No more free pass, as our alliance with Israel gets Americans KILLED…………

      • WarriorH

        Careful there timmy. Your anti-semitism is starting to show.

      • timr

        Warrior H,

        Let me educate you…….I have many, many Jewish friends……..very close friends……..It’s not the Jewish people I dislike…….it’s the Israeli Government that I’m against…………there’s a difference……….

      • JeffH

        WarriorH, I doubt that timr has many friends at all…except for possibly the thugs in So Chicago he so often puffs his chest about.

    • rockinroll1064

      Words from a future Christian Taliban cleric!

      • rockinroll1064

        This stupid website misplaced my quote!

  • Ken Uncle

    Just a thought but haven’t we here seemed to have forgotten about Cheney’s Hit squads? Nothing here about “extraordinary renditions?” (aka, kidnapping?). Nothing here either about Torture (see: http://www.internationalnews.over-blog.com/article-31790719.html). Umm nothing either about the removal of both habeas corpus and posse comitatus all by the Bush administration? Don’t remember the start of the Iraq War when the Bush administration decided to “take out” the leadership of Iraq? Don’t remember the Bush administration relegating all demonstrations at any Republican rally to like 3 miles away in “Free Speech” Zones (I guess to celebrate freedom of speech)? Short memories.

    • American Citizen

      Yet you condone what the Obama Administration is doing, while castigating the Bush Administration. Hypocrite.

  • American liberal

    The Pakistani Taliban has taken credit for helping Awlaki…..they are on the list of terrorist organizations…. Which further makes this artical nothing but Anti American nonsense…Bob Livingston should be ashamed… But I doubt that will happen… And this artical should be retracted … I understand free speech… Rush, Hannity, Beck make a living of riling you up… Beck even comes right out and admitts it just ” entertainment ” while I believe they just lie and call it News and opinions to suggest president Obama would use drones on the is flatout ignorance ..and nothing but anti American hate for our legally elected president… By ” We the people”… Perhaps Bob Livingston should concider moving to another country..like Awlaki did because I see little diffrence in Awlakis hate for America and the contents of this artical … Dispicable ..

    • tim

      American Liberal is right………..

      Mr Livingston, you are showing yourself as NO different than the Talking heads on T.V. and Radio……….

      Just about EVERY one of the terrorist caught by the Bush administration were tried and convicted right here in America, but now that Obama is President, it’s quite different isn’t it??

      Make up your mind, is Obama too soft on terrorism, or too harsh???

      Your articles, are entertaining, for your loyal “Liberty” patriots……but, rela patriots can see right through you……….

      • Joe Conservative

        Timmay! what do you mean when you say “Just about EVERY one of the terrorist caught by the Bush administration were tried and convicted right here in America, but now that Obama is President, it’s quite different isn’t it??”?!? Where would they be tried and convicted? Venus?! One thing I do know, under the Bush admin, they were NOT read their rights or treated like a citizen! Sadam was tried, convicted and hung in Iraq. I know, I know, you said “Just about EVERY one…” but seriously, where would they be tried, your garage or maybe your basement? Hey front row seats for the whole family!!! And by the way, in case you have not guessed it, because you asked us to “…make up your mind…” if obama is too hard or soft on terrorism – the answer he is too SOFT!!! For cryin’ out loud Timmay! he and his administration cannot even find the brass ones to say the word “terrorist” come on, boy obama is spoon feeding you the same manure you are regurgitating back to us from what you have heard your talking head obama say. You are a good boy, doing exactly what you have been told, or better, lied to. You need to STOP being so gulla-bull and think with your own mind.

      • timr

        Joey……….

        Obama has gone into Pakistan, which Bush didn’t do….and he has to clean up the mess in aghfganistan, because Bush ignored it…….YES………ugnored it, because of his infatuation with Saddam…….which, incidently, is the the Worst Foreign Policy decision in Generations……………

        And I don’t take in, everything Obama says or does……..I have disagreed with a few of his policies……..but the difference between me and the likes of you, is that I don’t say, that I………….”disagree with that commie, socialist, muslim, kenyan, traitor.”"…….when I do question him on something………

        That is reserved for you children……….

      • JeffH

        timr, you’ve had your aged questioned on more than one occasion here…speaking of children…take a look in the mirror sometme, then just maybe you wouldn’t have to justify some of your answers.

      • timr

        Again……we have no-substance JeffH, here……….

      • JeffH

        timr, seems you would know better than anyone based on your long history of “lack of substance” abuse.

    • Infidel

      Wow, the obamots are out in force now aren’t you? ; ]

      • PragmaticSort

        Yep, with their false rationalizations and their false Pelosi history anectodes at their side.

    • JeffH

      I certainly see that “free speech” is still alive and well and of course so are the “two peas in a pod”.
      You hacks always manage to get a quick start, but you’re never around for the finish…I wonder???

      Bob Livingston is a big boy and I’m quite sure he can handle your biased critisisms’ like an adult, which obviously you two cannot!

    • Harald

      Right on! And it’s not just this article. This whole website is the mouthpiece of Obama haters, rednecks, evangelicals.

      • Doug

        That’s right Harald us rednecks who actually have real jobs Harald. Ding ding ding ding ding ding! You got a pretty mouth their boy! Hey Harald come out from under you mommie skirt and try to act like and adult!

      • JeffH

        Gee Harald…give me your best “racist” definition of a redneck?
        Did your Uncle Saul teach you that much or did you learn all of that “racist anti-religious hate” on your own.

      • timr

        Your’e right, Harald………….

        A site full of Joe the Plumbers………..(their hero)

      • libertytrain

        I don’t understand why you waste so much of your valuable time on this site, that you so obviously are infatuated with —-

      • JeffH

        libertytrain, it’s “almost” comical to a point, sometimes, isn’t it?
        I guess it is true, if the shoe fits, wear it!

      • timr

        It’s called Free Speech……..my fellow Americans………….

      • kate8

        It’s called an easy paycheck.

        There is no other explanation. No one can spend all day, every day on blog sites.

    • Joe Conservative

      Hey American Lib, what comedy cafe are you working this weekend? You are extremely hiarious! So this article is anti American? Bob Livingston should be ashamed – and you say you understand free speach? Really, and where do you get YOUR news from? You crack us all up! And speaking of crack you must have gotten a bad batch from your dealer! And what, do you say that we should believe the mainstream liberally inclined media? So how will this work, I guess when obama starts using drones or gang members or sharp shooters or whatever to quench those that are openly talking against the obama Regime then, what then? Can you give us all your phone number so we can all call you to call you a mindless sphincter? I would not put it above obama to take physical action against those that are against his policies. He seems to have a Napolean complex and that can be rather dangerous to those that do not see eye to eye with obama. Hey, where is his birth certificate anyway? That is such a small thing to show that his hiding it only serves to cement the fact that he is NOT a citizen and a bold face liar – even going against his stance in the elctions that he was going to be truthful and transparent. Sphincter, if your boy obama is being truthful and transparent, I’d hate to see him lying or untruthful, no wait, but hold on, he is lying and he doesn’t care that he is because he knows there is an idiot born every minute, like you, that will vote for change, no, wait, there he is lying again! Change, what change, oh yes, lying!!! Now that’s a refreshing change especially AFTER he said he wouldn’t lie – and a Dog will return to his own vomit. Get a life – go to Yemen and pronounce that you are an American!

  • Joseph

    Excellent perception, excellent account of this administrations roughshod treatment of our beloved Constitution, historically considered one of the most remarkable documents of western civilization, as well as American citizens themselves.

    Since day 1 this administration & the fed in general, has been setting the stage so, like Nazi Germany before it, it can vilify & eventually round up & silence forever all dissenters, infirmed, disabled, etc.

    Hitler’s ascendency to ultimate power, unlike a dictator happened legally, at the behest of voters & the legislature. Upon his election, undesirables were rounded up. After a suspicious national emergency, he quickly declared Marshall Law, the rest is history.

    No less is about to happen in the United States, the Arsenal of Democracy. The only problem is there is no longer an Arsenal of Democracy, a “New World” to come to the aid of the “Old World” as Winnie so elegantly phrased 60 years ago.

    • Bob Wire

      Not so ! This administration came in during the middle of the movie as the prior administration was abridging Americans bill of rights for some perceived greater good. As “fear mongering” the GOP’s weapon of choice ( much like this article) and first “throw down card” became all too common.

      • JeffH

        Bob, you’re so eloquent with your writings and certainly must enjoy your elongated type which pretty much puts you into the “blowhard” class with many of your contemporaries. Easier to just spit it out without all of the camouflage. You might even get a few more readers and responses to spew your liberal crap at!

      • http://www.hotmail.com marylou

        You envy BOB and his writing skills to get his point across.
        You are unable to prove your point so you name call….how immature and juvenile you are.

      • JeffH

        marylou , what..you don’t care for my sarcasm? Seems you should rethink your comment and the substance of it! Immature? Who’s being immature now?

      • Steve

        Sorry Jeff, Marylou can’t answer right now. Mrs.O caught her chewing gum in her political science class (communism 101) and she has to stand in the corner for the next 30 minutes with the “little pointy hat” on.

      • libertytrain

        Jeff, she might have thought you were making the comment about Bob Livingston rather than Bob Wire -

      • Cindy

        Libertytrain;
        I think you’re right. Sometimes new posters aren’t specific enough about who they are addressing (please include names from now on) and have trouble figuring out which reply button to click on so we know exactly who is the intended recipient.
        Judging from marylous post farther down, she appears to be a conservative.

      • JeffH

        Cindy and libertyrain…I realize she probably mis-guided her response and doesn’t understand my underlying sarcasm as the “regulars” do. I do know that Marylou isn’t “one of them”.

      • Mick for thought

        JeffH I have seen you write quite beautifully with passion with intelligence and obvious evidence of research but what about what Bob said was inaccurate.

    • Kim McGough

      TOO BOTH SIDES; you need to check out the sell out of America to the UN by Obama and Hilary. Interpol can now come on American soil, in the case of an uprising, which could very well happen with all of this bull that is going on now. Our laws, military, and courts have rights in anything when this happens, thanks to Obama, and Hilary just gave the UN the right to take your guns. Check the UN web site

      • Kim McGough

        That is no rights

  • American liberal

    Typo… Shoot on sight…

  • American liberal

    I’m not suprised at the nonsense of this artical … Just yesterday Alwalaki said killing Americans is justified and any means president Obama uses To take this terrorist out is fine with me and most Americans .. It’s amazing that anyone could defend Alwalaki, But this is an anti American site… I’ve heard the attempted attack in New York refered over and over as an attempted act of terrorism…You rightwingers have now resorted to cheering for the … terrorist…this countrys had dead or alive policys for centurys for Americans citizens that kill fellow citizens .. Even shoot on site policys… So good for president Obama if he can get this terrorist with a drone….this is s new low for articals trashing this president and our military, law enforcement and our government…

    • airangel

      I actually agree taking out a terroist that calls for the persecution of Americans…all the more reason not to let these religious finatics build a mosque by 9/11 and be given Sharia jurisdiction, they just simply can’t embrace Americanism and we would have our own Gaza strip right in NYC if they are allowed to reign there and force their ways on us…this is the only religion that uses suicide bombers of all ages and genders…no one would be safe in public places or public transit

      • http://www.rononthespot.com Ronald Nuckles

        I agree with what you are saying but don’t put to much faith in good
        buddy Obama or any other politician for that matter. You slip up and say the wrong thing to the wrong person and you may well be on a hit list yourself. You are just as unsafe from those within as you are from those outside of our borders.

      • Bob Wire

        this same reasoning can be and should be applied to SB1070.

      • Momof3

        Wow, Bob! That is quite a stretch. As long as you have ID (you know, passport, not from Mexico) you should be fine. It is high time to enforce our immigration laws. We really can’t pick and choose which laws to enforce. I for one, would love to stop paying the majority of taxes in this country to fund all of these failing social programs.

      • WarriorH

        Bob, I visited the airport this past weekend and went up to the Air Mexicana ticket window and requested two tickets to Cancun. They had the nerve to ask me for a passport and money for the tickets.

        Do you think I should contact the ACLU, State Dept. or would you recommend another agency? I feel like I’ve been wronged.

      • Sandra

        Don’t mind Bob Wires IGNORANT ANSWER! He, much like Obama and congress, HAS NOT READ SB1070

    • PragmaticSort

      Alwaki needs to be removed from the planet. Obama did right.

    • Joe Conservative

      American Liberal, you are missing the point. Here is obama, creating a double standard – he is calling this radical cleric a terrorist, as he should but then the underwear bomber and the Times Square bomber he reads them their rights? And, obama and his admin. can’t even call these 2 that were CAUGHT trying to plant & detonate a bomb on our soil terrorists but Alwalaki he calls a terrorist? Come on even a pin head like you SHOULD understand that a terrorist is a terrorist whether he is “just talking” about killing Americans or actually planting bombs to REALLY kill Americans! Do you not get that? As Anne Coulter so nicely put it, “…what do you call a democrat with a brain – a republican” You definitely are a sphincter muscle with your head stuck all the way up that sphincter. Get your head out of there so you can think clearly – there is still hopr for you yet, or not!

      • http://none Jeff

        good point, there is a discrepancy. Is it practical to read the guy in Yemen his rights? Can they arrest the guy without a lot of american casualties? Going into detail about the guy’s sphincter was not a good point. Our biases affect all our judgement’s to different degrees and if you want someone to see your point, insulting them is probably not the best way.

      • rockinroll1064

        I agree that the 1st 2 terrorist should of been treated like enemy conbatants,not common criminals.I don’t agree w/everything Obama does,but I do notice that some of these ultraconservatives are hypocrits for trashing Obama for every trivial misdeeed!

    • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

      Dear American liberal,
      So you are okay with denying Awlaki (an American citizen) his rights guaranteed under the 5th Amendment: “nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law?” Article 3 Section 3 describes how to handle a Treason case: “Treason… shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or confession in open court.” These (5th Amendment) rights have been granted to Egyptian Khalid Sheik Mohammed (and others residing in Gitmo) but are being denied to Awlaki. Even the “evil” Bush administration granted Johnny Walker Lindh an opportunity for a jury trial (although he was mistreated and his rights were violated before that trial) and he chose a plea bargain. Is they irony lost on you?
      Best wishes,
      Bob

      • Steve

        Yes Bob, it is lost on him, or was that a rhetorical question? ;-)

    • KASI (AMERICAN)

      liberal american is an oxymoron pick one because you cant be both,however i do like obama doing this if it is for the right reasons,ANTI-(violent) AMERICANS should be destroyed and this is the first thing that Obama has done that i agree with but thats it.Obama is a Black Bush spending us into history they are letting us fall behind on purpose because they all have the Karl Marx mentality.Case in point Bill Clinton said in a speech that “we need to find a way for everyone to win”.How can that be possible liberal american?Are we all 3 year olds playing in a youth soccer league,NO this is reality and we’re all grown up now.But why does Obama want this terrorist destroyed and not the rest????????????????

      • http://none Jeff

        that is a good point. How can you ask him? Can you email your congressman to ask the question in congress to see if he gets an answer? I am thinking that he is trying to stop further strikes on american soil from this guy preaching to people and encouraging more strikes. Since the others are in U.S. custody, their ability to incite others to attack america is limited now. I am sure there are other reasons as well.

      • KASI (AMERICAN)

        ok why not try to take him into custody,and why have we released dozens of detainees from gitmo,why not try the detainess for war crimes. blah blah blah whats your point jeff.The one place we had for criminals of this nature was gitmo and he wants to shut it down and put those,for a lack of a better word (people) in our back yards.Yes i hesitate calling them people because people like you me can have debate without wanting to blow eachothers houses or families up for a belief.Would you send your pregnant sister into market with bomb strapped to her in the name of whoever probably not (but they do)

    • http://GOGGLE vaksal

      YOU MAKE ME LAUGH,WHATS THE DIFFERANCE WHEN ANYONE BRAKES THE LAW,IS IT THE LAW OF THE CHOSEN PEOPLE( THE MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE) OR US CHRISTAINS WHAT IS CALLED BY LIBERMAN AND OTHER NON -CHOSEN PEOPLE.AND LISTEN TO LIBERMAN HE IS ABOVE THE LAW ,ITS OK BECAUSE I SAY IT IS. TO MURDER SOMEONE ,CHRISTAINS AT LEAST GIVE YOU THE CHANCE TO DEFEND YOURSELF,WELL WHAT CAN ONE EXPECT FROM A CONTROLLED GOVERNMENT,RUN BY GODS CHOSEN PEOPLE,JUSTICE LOOK AROUND, WAKE UP ,WALLSTREET,THE GIVING AWAY OF THE ECONOMY,NAFTA ,WASNT AN IRISHMAN THAT PUSHED THAT MESS,THE WARS IN IRAQ AND AFGANISTAN,WHY BECAUSE THE BIG HYPE OF (OH,THEY HAVE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION) WELL NOW WE IN AMERICA HAS BEEN SUCKERED INTO THE JEWISH MEAT GRINDER WARS AGAINST ISLAM, AND THE VERY PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON ,LIBERMAN,ARI FLASHER,AND ALL THE REST OF THIS BUNCH ,HAVE DESTROYED THIS NATION,AND HAVE CORRUPPTED BOTH PARTIES,AND IF I AM WRONG,WHY CANT THIS MESS,BE FIXED? BECAUSE THE GREAT ONES DONT WANT IT FIXED,AS IT IS SAID IN THE CARNIAVAL, THE MORE SMOKE YOU HAVE ,THE MORE YOU CAN STEAL.BY THE WAY WHEN PEOPLE REALLY LOOK AT ALL THIS MESS ,WHO DO YOU THINK THEY WILL BLAME,IF I WERE YOU AMERICAN LIBERAL,I WOUDNT COUNT ON HISTORY SAYING THAT ISREAL WAS THE GOOD GUYS OR THE BUNCH RUNNING THIS MESS WERE THE GOOD GUYS TOO,THATS WHEN THE CHICKENS COME HOME TO ROOST,AND REMEMBER THIS, NEVER POOP IN YOUR NEIGBORS FOOD,THEY MAY DESTROY YOU.AND YOU DEFEND MURDER,YOU ARE NO CHRISTAIN,BUT ONE OF THE CROOKS IN POWER( WORKING FOR THEM) AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU HAVE CAUSED THIS MELTDOWN,IN THIS NATION AND ALL THESE WARS.I AM SICK OF ALL THE ARABS AND YOU TROUBLEMAKERS HERE IN THE U.S.A. GO TO RUSSIA AND START A SECOND COMMUNIST REVOLUTION,THE FIRST ONE FLOPPED AFTER 70YRS. AND GO KILL ANOTHER 70 MILLION CHRISTAINS THERE A SECOND TIME. BUT DONT COUNT ME IN IT STINKS.

    • rockinroll1064

      Yep,I’m all for putting a target on this cowards head,he is an enemy combatant!Funny how the right wingers want to impeach the President for doing the right thing.If Bush decided to do the same thing,he would be a strong courageous(sp) president w/balls of steel.It’s amazing how far they will reach to discredit him(Obama),makes me wonder what their true intentions lie.

  • Bob Wire

    Quote;”Now we have an administration that has shown a proclivity to use missile attacks from Predator drones to kill what it is calling insurgents or terrorists in Pakistan and Afghanistan—and killing innocents in the process—saying that it’s time to use them in a country we’re not currently at war with to kill an American citizen who hasn’t harmed anyone himself.”

    a kernel of truth in a bucket of manure.

    Quote;”If they think the rhetoric of Tea partiers—or Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck or whoever—is somehow inciting violence, how long is it before the administration starts authorizing drone missile attacks on them”

    Hmm? ~ I don’t know when! Please tell us! we’d all like to know! So we might all be scared together!

    Quote;” But what else do you call the order designating American-born radical cleric Anwar al-Awlaki as a target for a strike by a drone missile?
    Awlaki is suspected by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) of actively plotting violence. He is described in The New York Times as “a charismatic preacher who has said it is a religious duty to attack the United States.” The CIA says it believes Awlaki’s rhetoric inspired Times Square attempted-bomber Faisal Shahzad.

    Hmm? and this is a bad thing?

    Your and my President is a pragmatic, a problem solver that does not prescribe to one “single” ideology. I know it’s confusing for you and frighten to you. But you’er getting panties in a wad for nothing I fear.

    There is no high crimes for impeachment been committed. However as soon they are, feel free but I’ll be the first in the line.

    This article is probably some of your worst work to date. And no ! I’m not in the market for gold at 200% over value. But somebody will!

    • Harald

      You said it so well! Unfortunately, quite a number of Americans don’t know whether they are punched or bored. One can’t do anything right for them. “We want leadership” but don’t lead us. How unfortunate.

      • JLC

        Harald — More accurately, We want leadership — but don’t try to DRIVE us!

    • WarriorH

      Bob,

      Where do you find this information regarding the president’s problem solving abilities? I would like to read up on this.

      • http://none Jeff

        Well for one hopefully if things go through millions more people will have healthcare coverage. They will still systematically deny people like women with breast cancer their proper care but hey it is not a perfect system.

    • American Citizen

      The left constantly castigates President Bush for going into Iraq to deter Hussein from attacking us. I thought deterrence was a bad thing.

      • Norm

        American Citizen
        Saddam had no intentions or capabilitys to attack the US.
        It’s simply inconcievable.

      • timr

        American citizen,

        It wasn’t only the Left, who said going into Iraq was a huge mistake………MANY, many, retired Generals said not to……….(but, what do they know)……….

      • JeffH

        WASHINGTON (CNN) — In a major victory for the White House, the Senate early Friday voted 77-23 to authorize President Bush to attack Iraq if Saddam Hussein refuses to give up weapons of mass destruction as required by U.N. resolutions.

        Hours earlier, the House approved an identical resolution, 296-133.

        Resolution sharply divides Democrats
        The Senate vote sharply divided Democrats, with 29 voting for the measure and 21 against. All Republicans except Sen. Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island voted for passage.
        Minority Leader Richard Gephardt, D-Missouri, said giving Bush the authority to attack Iraq could avert war by demonstrating the United States is willing to confront Saddam over his obligations to the United Nations.

      • JeffH
    • KASI (AMERICAN)

      Harold and Bob,sounds like you both are on the Obama train,so do you both like socialism because thats where we’re heading,anyone can and should be able to live here (IF) you respect AMERICAN history,THE CONSTITUTION,and are here legally.You both are persecuting for religious beliefs even though it is clear that our great country was founded BY CHRISTIAN BASED religions.Yes it does say seperation from church and state but anyone with half a brain and no agendas can see that that ment the church cannot run roughshot over the people like it had been for centuries.GOD BLESS AMERICA and our roots and we will once again revail over the wantabe tyrant of our generation

    • Pat R

      Apparently you have not been keeping up with what is going on in DC!
      I don’t see how or why Obama has not been impeached before now!

  • The Munz

    If you really want to be afraid now and see exactly what they are up to. Google the McCain – Liberman Bill called the “The Enemy Belligerent Interrogation, Detention and Prosecution Act of 2010.”

    It can take any tea party people and make them enemy combatants without Miranda, habius corpus and subjects them to the whims of our boy king Obama.

    This power grab is one of the most frightening bills I have ever seen in my life. It makes the presidents subjective decision on who is a danger a terrorist.

    Get the word out on this one. This is one of those laws that although maybe well intentioned can be turned against every American who disagrees with “the one”

    • rwnut

      The Munz…John(Teddy)McCain has his hands in more un-american -hit than any person I can think of.Some where along the way he has become a turncoat to America!All these years the Republican party thought he was working for them.He has finally exposed himself for what he really is.He has nearly brought this country to a civil war with his open borders and amnesty.This guy is a pro at bait and switch.Vote for J.D.Hayworth.

  • http://BobLivingstonNewsletters Patsy Despain

    Quite interesting 2 say the least. I’m somewhat bewildered that someone hasn’t already put a hit out on R new Pres.

    What will these people take away from us REAL American’s next?

    Obviously they should put God back in OUR COUNTRY B4 we hit the bottom of that mountainside we R cascading down.

    Patsy
    P.S. I review your newsletter along with several others, on my gmail address, please do not send 2 this email address.

    • http://none Jeff

      I pray to God no one puts a hit out on your president. The chaos and depression that would ensue around the world would be devastating if they succeeded. I for one would be absolutely crushed with sorrow and the future would be so bleak to be unimaginable.

    • Claire

      What a hell of a thing to say. To me, I don’t want any president to have a “hit” put on him/her. This is what I call treason, tyranny. I don’t give a damn what party he/she belongs to, this is not right. It is a simple matter of being voted out of office.
      I don’t care if I piss everyone off on this site. This is exactly what I think AND believe. I voted for Bush, and I ended up being aggravated with him but I sure as hell did not wish ill upon him. I will not let hate consume my mind.
      I have said this a hundred times before, it is posts like this that the NUTS read.

      • kate8

        Well said, Claire.

        The only ones I ever hear calling for the death of someone (on the right) they don’t like is the Left. They are A-OK with that. Yet, it is always the right they accuse of saying such things.

        You always know what the left is up to by what they are accusing the right of.

    • http://yahoo.com marc

      God hates us too.

  • http://BobLivingstonNewsletters Patsy Despain

    Quite interesting 2 say the least. I’m somewhat bewildered that someone hasn’t already put a hit out on R new Pres.

    What will these people take away from us REAL American’s next?

    Obviously they should B God back in OUR COUNTRY B4 we hit the bottom of that mountainside we R cascading down.

    Patsy
    P.S. I review your newsletter along with several others, on my gmail address, please do not send 2 this email address.

  • Joe Myrick

    The Cleric must have turned on Obama, or is the hit a real order ??? We know that Obama is a clever liar, & a habitual one. He simply cannot be trusted in any matter whatsoever. Shame on we the people for turning on our heavenly father to elect such an awful character into such a high place. It is a revelation of our relationship with our God & father Jehova. Our people were made delusional with such great ease.

    • tim

      Joe,

      Keep your religion out of this, will you???

      didn’t the Jehovah witnesses predict the end of the World 10 times already???…………and they were WRONG……10 times……..

      • sheryl

        You are exactly what Joe is talking about, Tim. He said nothing about Jehova Witnesses, and if you were God-loving, you would know that Jehova is another name for God our Father. Same as the Alpha and Omega, Rose of Sharon,Son of God

      • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

        If you look up Petrus Galatinus on your computer you will learn that the Catholic Church now confirms that he(Petrus, a Roman Catholic Priest) made a translation error and it should have been translated Yahweh, not Jehovah(Note: Hebrew is the only inspired text by the way and it does not even have a “J” in it’s alphabet)! This error was made in 1522, I believe by Petrus! PS: If you accept the Catholic Church that is as the creator of Christianity, which it is according to history, then obviously being a “Christian” and worshiping “Jesus” also is fine, especially after Pope Leo the 10th, I believe, told Petrus to come up with a name for the “savior” that honored the highest Greek Deity, “Zeus”! The 3rd Commandment? By the way, America is from the seed of Joseph, which was given the Name Israel and not Judah, which was given “grace”(the promise of the coming Messiah)! If you look at Deuteronomy 17:15 you’ll also find the Israel absolutely is forbidden from appointing a “foreigner”(non-Israelite) over them! Oops! Nothing has changed about 6,000 years and we continue to reject our true creator’s laws! Look for the two-witnesses coming to judge Israel for 3 1/2 years, which is called Ya’aqob’s(Jacob’s) trouble, perhaps, as early as on September 9th, the Feast of Trumpets? Watch!

      • JEAN

        WOW! We just studied this in Church

        They wanted change.Wait till it hits them.

      • American Citizen

        It depends upon the author which name was used.

      • timr

        Sheryl, I stand corrected……….
        but usually only Jehovah witnesses refer to God as Jehovah……..

        And my Bro is jehovah, so I know what they stand for……it’s pretty scary……….

      • Norm

        timr
        Anybody who would let they’re kids bleed to death because they have some twisted notion about blood tranfusions can’t be all there. I hope it’s heaven they encounter in the afterlife but I lean toward hell.

      • del

        please educate us on what they stand for

      • timr

        Norm,

        Your’e exactly right………NO Blood transfusions for them whether they are dying or not………..

      • JeffH

        timr…here we go again…NO BLOOD TRANSFUSIONS?
        Try to speak without inserting foot in mouth!

        Jehovah’s Witnesses Accepting Blood Transfusion
        Lee Elder, Director
        Associated Jehovah’s Witnesses for Reform on Blood
        2009

        That Jehovah’s Witnesses have refused life saving transfusions of certain products from blood is well known and documented in medical literature. It is also documented within the medical community that Witnesses have accepted transfusions of whole blood and other products from blood forbidden by the religion’s leadership. The reason for this acceptance is simple: the population of Jehovah’s Witnesses has never fully assented to the organization’s religious
        position on blood.

        It is a myth that all Jehovah’s Witnesses refuse blood transfusion. Many members of this religious
        community do not believe it wrong to accept blood transfusion therapy.

        http://www.ajwrb.org/Jehovah_s_Witnesses_Accept_Blood_Transfusion.pdf

    • knewborn

      Joe you are another idiot. We are to be protected by our government, people like you need to leave America. You stupid haters have the nerve to make a comment like that and have the nerve to live here. The one thing about “Freedom Of Speech” idiots like you say whatever you want to but won’t leave. If you don’t like what is going on in America go somewhere else fool!

      • Julep

        Knewborn,
        I don’t understand why you bother to read these articles with your political viewpoint. You and others really know how to sling that Constitution around to support your arguments. Why don’t you try reading it without the added b.s.?

      • Bob Wire

        Well, hmm? since we are considering a clergyman, let’s just focus on his beliefs and actions. I see little to gain to pontificate your own. These people conduct themselves in criminal fashion and violate civil laws making them subject “rules of engagement” and matters of state concern.

      • PragmaticSort

        No, freedom of speech is exactly why we tolerate people like you. You have the right to be wrong and we will defend your right to the death.

      • The Kid

        Protected by our Government? LMAO! Yes, they are doing such a fine job on the border. And 4 terrorist attacks in this admin (that WE know of), 2 of which were successful, and 2 that didn’t occur ONLY due to operator error. Haven’t acted yet on the oilspill, except to blame BP. Let the Mex pres run down the country on the FLOOR of Congress. And for dessert, piss off the ONLY friend we have in the Middle East. Yes, thank GOD the gov protects us!

      • Cindy

        All good points. Pretty smart for a kid ;-)

      • rwnut

        Cindy…I love it. And the Kid has it right!

      • Beepster

        You want the gov’ment to protect ya? You want it to also furnish food, lodging, cars, etc, also while ya just relax on your couch?? You’ve never heard of “Protect yourself”? I rely on the gov’ment to do two things (whichever party in in control): Tax me while I’m living, and tax me when I’m dead.

      • MichelleO

        AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Harald

      Go back to church! Pls!

    • Pat R

      Joe:

      Obama thinks he can do anything he wants to since the CIA is protecting him. The CIA has all of his personal info and records sealed (or destroyed). Obama was or still is a CIA operative.
      That is why he and his administration act the way they do. “Nobody can
      touch me”
      Someday they will P@ss the wrong bunch of people off and they will find out differently! “No-one is untouchable forever!” Not even the evil George Soros who is running the US at this time.

    • rockinroll1064

      Backup your claims w/examples!

  • HFlashman

    I’m trying to figure out what Lolita iscomplaining about? Other than anti administration. They read Miranda to those arrested on US soil or controlled airspace as is required by the Constitution and past SC rulings. This adheres to our Consitution. They target for killing a terrorist overseas who is actively engaged in killing US soldiers and us here in the US. That is an acceptable act of war.

    I will agree with the article about the unPatriot Act which shyould be marked for its own death should we get the Big Money interests out of Congress and wrest control away from the Elite and Big Corporation hierarchy which was handed the keys by the former administration.

    So the question remians…Lolita, just what the heck are you yelling about?

    • http://www.rononthespot.com Ronald Nuckles

      Hang around long enough, remove your head from the dark side, I am sure why she is yelling will come to you.

      • Harald

        Lolita has too much time and is yepping away to support what she is being fed by this website. Way to go, rednecks!

      • JeffH

        Harald, perhaps you can give us your unbiased definition of your racist slur, “rednecks”? I wouldn’t expect an answer from a Marxist/communist/socialist supporter such as yourself…perhaps you are another traitor amongst the ranks of the hard core leftist liberals wreaking havoc against the American people?

      • timr

        JeffH……..it’s YOU and your cronies, who are traitors………after all, it was YOUR Rove, who outted a CIA agent, wasn’t it…….???

      • di

        Good, Jeff, there are too many liberal, Marxist, Commie trollers on this blog site. Here we are trying to save our country, our constitution and our freedoms and in walks these saboteurs! You tell ‘em guy!

      • JeffH

        timr, we’ve seen your resume already and I prefer my “patriotic” resume over a traitors anyday.

      • timr

        Jeff, patrioism to you, is waving the Flag…….

        There’s more to it than that…………Why don’t you volunteer your useless time to someone in need……………

        Or would that be considered Welfare???????

        Your patriotism is Shallow, just like the Tea Partyers………

        John McCain was a Patriot…….and Rove ate him alive in 2000.

        Hohn Kerry was a patriot……..and again, Karl Rove hired sell-out veterans to discredit him………….

        Max Cleland lost arms and legs in Vietnam………..they called him un-patriotic when he was against going into Iraq

        Chuck Hagel, a former Senator from Nebraska, a Republican, was called un-patriotic for trying to stopPresident Bush from going into Iraq……..

        so why don’t you be careful JeffH, before you throw that term around……….

        find out it’s REAL meaning before you open your mouth and qyestion others’ patriotism………

      • JeffH

        timr, all I can do is laugh out load at your feeble attempt to deprive me of my right to be a patriot. Yeah, waving the American flag is far more patriotic than waving your “red” flag. Why would helping someone in need be considered a measure of patriotism? So timr, as I wave my flag and salute the vetrans and our flag on Memorial Day, I’ll also be thinking about stopping you and your ilk from your attempt at removing my freedom to do so and thank the good lord for all of the patriots that wave the same flag that I do.

        GOD BLESS AMERICA and all of the PATRIOTS that support America! They know who they are.

      • Cindy

        timr, aka tim aka Tim

        Your communist rhetoric stunk up the blogs last week and still does now. Your one pizz poor excuse for an American. Oh wait, let me rephrase that. YOU ARE A COMMUNIST “LIVING IN AMERICA”, but not an American by any stretch of the imagination!

      • timr

        JeffH,

        Defend your party attcking Veterans, during campaigns…….
        You CAN’T…………

      • timr

        ……..your’e a(offensive words removed) so don’t claim to know me………..

        I feel sorry for the man in YOUR life……..poor guy……….

      • JeffH

        timr, still trying to make chicken salad out of chicken dukey.

        timr says:
        May 25, 2010 at 6:45 am
        JeffH, Defend your party attacking Veterans, during campaigns…….
        You CAN’T………???

        Well timr, jut what party am I defending and who’s “attacking veterans”? Desperate men say desperate things!

        You liberal hacks do have one very glaring similarity…at least try to get it somewhat close…impossible I know, but at least try!

      • Cindy

        timr
        So is that suppose to hurt my feelings? LOL sorry pal, you’re a little too far off kilter to bother me. Your childish uneducated attempts only serve to amuse me……..

    • Infidel

      ‘Controlled Airspace’?

      When was that around when they wrote the Constitution???

      Way to try to keep class envy alive though. ;]

    • James

      Why is it always big bad corporations? Why not big bad labor unions who are the funding source for socialism? Who never help anyone but are basically mafia “protectors” of American labor who always pay the dems to keep this extortion going legally.

      • timr

        James…….
        Labor Unions got very powerful and had corruption……one can’t deny it.

        But the Labor movement gave the American Worker everything they have now, from 40 hour work weeks, to overtime pay, to benefits, to Family leave, and so on…………

        But, you don’t have to worry, because the big Corporations, who have YOUR interest in mind, my friend, now wield all of the Power…….

        Less than 9% of all American workers are in Unions now…….

        And, guess what James……..we’ve seen that Salaries stay stagnant or go down, not keeping with inflation, for over 30 years now………while CEO pay has jumped 400%………..

        You must be a CEO………..

      • http://none Jeff

        great points Timr

      • WarriorH

        So please explain why there are union employees and union involvement in government? After all it’s the government we’re talking about.

      • Mick for thought

        much better post than some of your previous.

      • http://Patrickdavis3@Mac.com Pat davis

        I was in several of labor unions and can tell you that if this open vote passes only family members or close friends will get into these unions. My dad and uncles had to sponsor me into the teamsters. And if you are member of the ibew you don’t have to work just show up get your pin and then go in and go to sleep. Saw it with my own eyes when they built two of the six flags parks in Georgia and mid-america. These unions worked in the beginning but they are dinosaurs now and completely full of corruption. Try to get into IATSE. You can’t unless you are sponsored. Try to get into the teamsters you can’t unless you’re sponsored. It’s called keeping it in the family. Sorta what Obambi is doing with the teachers unions and car unions etc,etc,etc

      • timr

        Pat, you have NO clue, about the History of Labor Unions……..

        First of all, they were more corrupt in the 1950′s and 1960′s…….they don’t even yield much power anymore………..

        Has it ever occured to you, that Union bashing Corporations, are the reason why Corporations have all of the power now, while the Worker is silenced????

        If you have time, go look up, the advancement of workers’ salaries, as ith relates to inflation the past 30 years…………..and then, look up how the Corporations now, run countries……and their CEO’sget windfalls, even whe their Company is going under…………

        You Choose, Pat……….do you want workers to have a voice, or do want to keep bending over, and taking it, from these Companies……….

        What you have to realize, is that, at one time workers AND upper management made money and increased their worth……..THAT is how we got the Middle class……….

        Now, take a look at what’s happening to the middle class now???????

        Read up a little bit, on the history of the American worker and the Labor Movement……..you’d be surprised at what you find……..

        It wwasn’t Corporate America, that got you the 40 hour work week, or the benefits, back them………..

        Read a little History, my friend…….

      • http://Patrickdavis3@mac.com Patrickcake

        Yes and the Cadillac health and retirement plans that those lovely unions have aren’t going to help bankrupt this country! It certainly didn’t have much to do with the bankrupt state of California. How many unions have you been in? I’m in several. If it didn’t say union in front of it you’d call it welfare. The 50′s and 60′s were the beginning of the corruption. Dave beck was the president of my local in Seattle(174) before he became the international president and before he went to prison for corruption. I’ve walked my share of the picket lines from Seattle to Vegas as member of the IA. Be careful of what you speak Mr. Historian. You need a lesson on Jimmy call me. Tell me about the. Most frequent visitor to the Obama whitehouse. I believe he is the president of SEIU Andy Stern. It’s rumored is stepping down. This way he won’t be so visible. He can work behind the scenes with Mr. Jones and friends. Remember Van is the guy that loves Glenn Beck.

      • timr

        PatrickCake,

        I’ve never denied that some Unions were corrupt……..
        What about Wall street, what about the Laws that favor corporations??

        The 50′s and 60′s were the most prosperous time in America……..it built the Middle Class…………and you people think there is no need for collective bargaining…….or representation……Who’s speaking for working americans, now……….NO ONE……….

        Well, you’ve Won……..Middle america’s wages have stayed put, and your Lovely Corporations have done quite well………

        Congrats!!!

      • http://yahoo.com marc

        Very well said. Truth is a heavy hammer.

    • Doug

      Big Corporation hierarchy which was handed the keys by the former administration. Now thats funny radicals and the unions big wigs have chairs & parking spots with their name on it at Washington and spend more money to get what they want then any corporation at least big business does not have the keys to the WhiteHouse!

      • http://none Jeff

        of course big business has the keys to the whitehouse. They don’t need keys though because they work for Goldman Sachs or Haliburton and then become vice-president or work for the federal reserve or the treasury. they don’t have the keys to the whitehouse…ha ha ha. They got trillions of dollars as a thankyou for screwing everyone with subprime mortgages and all the market bubbles they have helped engineer. The biggest joke is the federal reserve. Is that not extortion, money-laundering and fraud. That is a racket that americans have to pay the “federal reserve corporation” to borrow their own money. Business makes the keys to the whitehouse and gives out copies to people who are going to give them more money and power. Let’s hope Obama or his predecessor can change things. Now there is a law that corporations are like people and can give as much to a campaign as they want. Goldman will be the next president with Haliburton as vice president (whoever they donate the most money to to do what they want). Isn’t that a conflict of interest? God speed america! I hope you can change course. I am a concerned Canadian.

      • http://none Jeff

        sorry not his predecessor but the person who follows him

      • http://Patrickdavis3@Mac.com Pat davis

        Jeff,
        Well that explains it, you’re Canadian. Please stay there.

      • Cindy

        Yeah Jeff,changing course is what we’re trying to do, before obama leads us down the socialist path, which is exactly where you Canadiens already are.

      • timr

        Jeff from Canada,

        Your’e right about Cheney and Haliburton…….

        The Right tends to forget THAT part of history……..they hire all of their “pals” to go into Iraq, and take over the Country, and then they can’t account for 9 billion dollars…….and then, they have the unmitigated “GAUL”, to talk about Government waste……….

        It floors me, it really does……..all of the buying of Legislation (by Both parties)……..and then the Supreme Court gives Corporations more power, as if they needed anymore.

        You NEVER, never, hear these Tea Baggers complain about THAT, but the minute a President wants to help 45 million americans, who have NO health insurance………THEN, they take-to-the-streets………..

        Phonies, that’s who these people are…………they have 8 years of possibly the most incompetent President in our History, and they are whining about Obama………….??

        Well, Obama is challenging the establishment, not giving a rat’s rear end, if he ticks off Wall Street, or the Insurance Companies……..

        I wish he would do alot more of this, because the SAME people have held control in this Country for far too long…………..(and, they are pretty much ALl white anglo-saxon cronies, who don’t want this to change)…………

        I agree with ONE thing the Tea Party says……..Let’s vote everyone out of office in Congres and start all over………Then, the Lobbyists wouldn’t know where to turn to……..

        Oh, and you might have noticed, that they scream at Government, but NOT these money-grubbing Lobbyists…………

      • http://none Jeff

        good points Timr. It is really tough for all americans right now. People need to examine their existing assumptions and listen to each other carefully and look for common ground and not the high ground. I’m as biased as the next person. There are a lot of passionate people on here that love their country and feel helpless watching it go down the drain (hopefully it is just becoming stronger), both republican and democrat. I think the real enemy is our stereotypes and resentment of one another for having different beliefs. It is the people that go to great lengths to understand the other’s viewpoint that may be able to change things for the better and help build consensus and momentum for positive change in the wasteland that is politics today. For the guy that said, I did not pass grade one, I did but not for several years.

  • Lolita

    This is sick! This entire administration is anti-American and must be impeach! Cannot wait until 2012, this dictator is another hugo chavez!!! America MUST wake up! IMPEACH!!!!!!

    • knewborn

      Lolita, what are you referring to. You sound like a idiot, impeach for what? for protecting all Americans from terrorist? Are you a terrorist or terrorist sympathizer that think you have a right to destroy people here in the United States and then use our consitution to hide behind. You need to be exported!

      • Eyes

        Impeach for what? You MUST be kidding! I can think of 10 or 15 charges for impeachment off the top of my head. Think back —clear back to the presidential candidates’ debates. If you still think there are no grounds, then you weren’t listening!

      • Harald

        Wish you would elaborate!
        Don’t you get the purpose of this website? It’s fighting Obama.. with exaggerations, twisted logic. And you swallow it all! Sad,sad, sad.

      • American Citizen

        You Libs swallow everything Obama says and does without question. You didn’t bet him before you voted for him. Now we’re all paying the consequences.

      • American Citizen

        Typo – vet him.

      • http://none Jeff

        I agree with you Harold. This collumn was written for the sole purpose of discrediting Obama. What is this guy’s agenda? I am dismayed and horrified to think of what this guy’s America would look like. I don’t agree with drone attacks but to insinuate that Obama would attack Glen Beck or anyone else from the right-wind is nonsense. However he may take a page out of the Bush/ Cheney play book and discredit people like Mrs Plame’s husband and then go on and start an illegal war that kills thousands of Iraqis and American’s alike and costs the American’s a trillion dollars. The last administration was rendering people and torturing them and people have languished in prison for 7 years (many for being in the wrong place at the wrong time). Can you blame Obama for trying to give some of these people rights? The title of your article has a lot of nerve mentioning Obama and assassination in it. I would be far more likely to believe that some of the people you coddle or incite would be moved to extremism of the kind you describe. If you want to stop drone missile strikes and assassinations then contact your member of congress and ask him to stop it or start a campaign. I think this article like so many others is more about maligning Obama. If he was selling sunshine and blue skies you would be saying how bad that was and that every American has a duty to oppose this.

      • Deb

        You can start with the Job offer to Sestek. that is a felony offense. Of course one of his flunkies will just take the fall for him.

        Too bad you can’t impeach for lack of experience and the inability to to the job. The man-child should never have been elected.

      • PODVET

        reply to EYES,

        You are only one of a few who have been keeping informed on our political defamation by our so called elected officials and I too cannot wait fot 20012 so we can get rid of the socialists that are now inhabiting the senate, congress, and the white house

      • JeffH

        Jeff…no matter what you might want some of us to think, I think I understand where you are coming from. “I would be far more likely to believe that some of the people you coddle or incite would be moved to extremism of the kind you describe. If you want to stop drone missile strikes and assassinations then contact your member of congress and ask him to stop it or start a campaign”, that’s a crock and you full well know it.
        Calling a congressman (the good ones are far and few between) hasn’t stopped one of them from furthering their personal agendas up to this point! Can you say Health Care reform and call your congressman in the same breath without laughing out loud? Neither can I! Those that aren’t in bed with the Marxist president and his agenda for the complete radical change to socialism, third world status and being governed by the Globalists that control the world’s economy, are in fear of their future, whether it be in politics or not, or fighting this socialist takeover with what little resources they still have left, which is the American voters.

        I think we all know who the real extremists are that pose a threat to our country, our soverienty, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. They’re the ones just like you that can’t wait to persecute the good, patriotic Americans with your rhetoric and vitriol.

      • http://Patrickdavis3@mac.com Patrickcake

        And harald,
        no one would accuse you of cowbell liberalism!!

      • Cindy

        “Blue” Jeff;
        This site doesn’t discredit Obama. Obama doesn’t need this blog to discredit him. He is doing that rather nicely all by himself! Nice to see you liberals on here helping him out by showing your ignorance with every post….Thanks :-)

      • http://www.personalliberty.com Larry Johnson

        Let me tell you about Obama supporters, they couldn’t care less about the truth, they claim their leader, is the smartest man ever to be President, all the while, he refuses, to present any kind of proof to back up that claim. Obama is a coward and a fraud, and so are the thirty percent who follow him. I’m not afraid to say it, Obama is on course to destroy this country. He has no intentions of fixing anything, and the majority of you libs out there know it. Thirty percent of Americans, if we dare call them that, do not believe we have the right to free speech, or to bare arms, in my humble opinion you left wingers,are for anything, and everything immoral and crude. I could go on, and on with this, but you already know what I’m saying is true.

      • ceberw

        Larry:

        I’m wearing short sleeves and nobody has arrested me. So I guess I do have a right to ‘bare’ arms.

      • tim

        You people had Obama impeached, before he was even sworn in……….
        Bush’s lies, and deceipts, gets American Soldiers killed and dismembered………..

        But let’t impeach Obama………

        UNREAL!!

      • Voice of Reason

        Tim,

        You and your group of psycho liberals crack me up…. Why don’t you try doing some reading first and open your mind a little.

        http://www.westernjournalism.com/?page_id=3255

        http://www.visiontoamerica.org/story/-obama-using-connecticut-social-security-number.html

        I don’t recall any of our past presidents using stolen SS#’s, and spending millions of dollars to cover their up their past. Maybe also try reading the NYT best selling book “The Manchurian President.”

        It is clearly obvious this man was groomed for this position and put in place.

      • rockinroll1064

        I know,it’s almost comical to hear some of the reasons these extreme right wing nutcases come up w/to impeach him.I don’t agree w/everything he is doing but he is a huge improvement over that retarded cowboy!If Obama acted the same way “W” did in the office,it would be Bastille Day all over again w/some of these loonies that are fuming from the mouth!

      • timr

        Hey Voice of Reason (obviously, a play on words)….

        Isn’t every candidate in both Parties, somewhat groomed, for the position……….

        After 8 years of “idiot”……..you people just crack me up……….

      • http://none Jeff

        Tim, I totally agree.

      • David

        Tim:

        In the “voice of reason” reply you received, he cited Western Journalism as his source for his anti-Obama rant. Western Journalism is a ultra-conservative “publication” run by Joseph Farah. Hardly a mainstream point of view with respect to critiquing President Obama.

        Your critique of “conservative” attacks on President Obama are right on!

      • MichelleO

        Being aCommunist should be enough…………….

      • skipfoss

        [Offensive post removed]

      • timr

        and welcome back, our TOP Bigot…….SkipFoss…….

      • Deb

        Why do liberals always assume that just because we don’t like Obama that we did like Bush?

        Absolutely Stupid. You seem to be stuck on Bush.

        I personally did not vote for either man.

      • Gary

        AMEN Tim

      • PODVET

        to tim,
        all gave some,some gave all, what have you given to protect our Constitution and our so called freedoms?

      • Norm

        tim
        Right on!
        And let’s not forget Bush’s brillient victory?? in Iraq. Last count there are more 90,000 american military and God knows how many civilian mercianeries and contractors still there. We really kicked their butts and saved the world. And alas the taxpayers pick up the check.

      • Stan B

        Tim the only thing thats unreal is every word that comes out of BUMA’s mouth is a lie, he is trying to destroy this country by spending us into the gound, so we will become a 3rd world country, and then GEORGE the commie SOROS and his gang of thugs want to take over our country, and if you don’t believe this then your just as bad as the radical marxist communist OBUMMA, he is no USA citizen, he worships chairman MAO who murdered 100 million of his own people, and if he believes that if he could get away with it, he’d do it to us in our country….I’m a veteran I loove this country and I fought to keep us free, this SOB wants to take over everything so he can be a dictator..All of his czars are all marxist, commie’s, he should be tried for treason, and throw him out of our country to china, thats where he belongs….

      • del

        has obummer pulled us out of Iraq? No! so I guess he is the one killing our boys now ain’t TIM!

      • timr

        Del,

        uou are right, Obama hasn’t pilled out of Iraq, and he should………
        As bad as I think Bush screwed up, it’s Obama’s war now, and he should start pulling people out……….

      • rwnut

        tim….Damn right we did! We had the little commie figured out when he spoke his first words! IMPEACH HUSSIEN OBAMA!

      • rockinroll1064

        everybody seems to be screaming for Obamas’ impeachment,I think it’s getting really silly and a lot of folks are really reaching for anything to justify the real reason they want him impeached,the color of his skin.Yes there are many things i disagree w/on some of his policies but not anything is close to an impeachable offense.there were a lot more reasons to impeach Bush but I never once yelled for his impeachment,I just waited patiently for 8 years,as the budget surplus turned to a huge deficit,his administration dropped the ball in Afghanistan and let Bin Laden go,he attacked a country that had nothing to do w/911(Iraq),took away rights of US citizens,gave huge tax breaks to the rich,bailed out irresponsible huge companies w/our tax $$$,spent too much of our $$$ on the war on marijuana,locked up over 60% of US citizens for the sale and use of pot,while violent criminals were let free,etc…the list is endless!

      • http://Patrickdavis3@Mac.com Pat davis

        Man you are such a revisionist. Bill Clinton was offered bin laden twice and refused. How do you think he’ll make out in this new one world government ? My guess is he’ll do pretty well and you will continue to sleep. Wake up nummy and do your home work. Or easier yet look around. Da

      • denniso

        Bob Livingston compares this administration going after terrorists to Obama going after tea party people and others who disagree w/ him.
        The rightwing complains that the Dems and now Obama are soft on terrorism and weak on defense…then Obama is critized by the rightwing for targeting terrorists.
        I don’t think we should be killing alleged terrorists in their homes
        unless there is absolute proof they are guilty of specific acts…their crimes cannot just be talking and whipping up anti American sentiment. We also wind up killing kids and women when we target homes or meetings and usually do more harm than good.

      • USAbootobama

        As you have shown yourself to be a racism person, not to ne confused as a racist it would seeem that you should read more history to know what some of us are intelligent enough to read and reflect on.
        Socialism has never worked anywhere it was tried. And it will not work here either. It would take away the liberies you have come to respect and live by. What we don’t need is anyone to come into the presidency of the USA and bring his Marxist and socialistic plans to destroy us here. This man is not capable of being the president ot the USA. He has lied and reneged on his campaign promises and done just the opposite. Closed-door meeting, telling his cohorts that the USA is a Muslim nation, and that we are stupid, selfish and more. This man’s genuine hatred of Americans is evident to us and we do not trust him. Trust will be his downfall. We don’t trust him and with reason. Opinion of him is proving to fall daily. We love our country and do not want anyone to change it. The change he professed is not what he is doing now. His disregard of the Constitutional law is traitorous. I won’t be sorry to see him go and it has NOTHING to do with race, color or sexual preference. If Martin Luthur King Jr had run for president as the first Negro president, I would have been proud to vote for him. His belief in God and country was genuine.

      • timr

        Hey Skipfoss,

        “White Trash Communist whore”………??

        That’s how you describe Obama’s mother??

        I feel sorry for you………You will get yours, someday, my friend……someday…………….(I’d love a shot at you)……..

      • JeffH

        timr, not only did you announce your racism “loud and clear” when you arrived at PLD, you still press on with it! Racism is terrible and unwanted yet the ignorant continue to use it as an excuse, and they all know who they are…in your case…don’t even play the “holier than thou” game…you’re no better than anybody else when it comes to using the race card.

      • Dennis Bartlett

        First, I’m an Independent and second I’m a fiscal and social conservative and third a Vet. For you to call this a racial matter you just don’t have a clue and that’s dangerous. Try informing yourself on what is really going on and stop listening to Olberman and Madoff. I’m not proud of either party and especially Progressives and Marxists turning our Country into a Communist dictatorship. It is surprising to me that people spout out hate without knowing the facts or care to. I didn’t “hate” the Cong or NVA but I do hate the so called President because he is the figurehead for a takeover of our Country. Wants to destroy the “NET”(free speech), take our guns, run us purposely into bankruptcy . An idiot spending the money Obummer has could create jobs. I’ve owned two successful business’s starting with nothing. You create jobs by bolstering small business’s, he has not. Gov’t does not make a dime, only spends it! I’m again dismayed at the lack of facts that you have and don’t care to. NWO is your cup of tea not mine. I fought for this Country , fly my Flag proudly and will fight again to keep my Country free. No one gets a free ride except leech’s . 43% of money earned is by business now and normally it is around 70% or better. The only jobs being created are Gov’t jobs and we can’t afford it! Who pays for it? Get your facts yourself and don’t rely on the mainstream media if you know how or have the initiative to do so!!!

      • denniso

        To all the people here who blather about Obama being a communist or marxist and then in the next breath shout about freedom and rights being taken away…first of all, Obama is neither a communist nor a marxist,and secondly,in a free country we are supposed to free to hold any political views,aren’t we? We’re supposed to free to be capitalists,socialists,communists,arch conservatives,even fascists.
        Some of you want to ammend the constitution to limit what political
        positions we can hold? Maybe you should move to Iran if you want to tell people what they can believe…next,you can work on telling all of us that we have to believe in a certain religion and that we’re unamerican if we aren’t Christian,or Muslim,or Hindu.

        Freedom means that everyone can believe what they want…pretty simple,no?

      • Bill

        Clinton is the one that let bin laden go. not bush.

      • David

        Name one! (Be specific now)

      • rockinroll1064

        Well for starters,Cheney,Rove,and W were involved in leaking classified info and exposing the identity of a covert CIA operative during wartime.Also ignoring urgent warnings of an Al Queada attack prior to 911.A lot of what happened during 911 was real fishy to say the least.Illegal wiretaps a violation of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act,which require court approval for wiretaps.Unaccountability when it comes to keeping tabs on the prisoners that were locked up at Gitmo and other places.A lot of innocent farmers got rounded up along w/”real”terrorist and ended up staying locked up for years.I am all for locking up terrorist indefinately,but for God sakes,keep track of why each prisoner is there!

      • Jeep

        Hey Rockhead! You must be talking about the “Plame Affair”. Even Novak knew she was just an analyst. But, I suppose the fact that Valerie was the chairperson representing the CIA did not “out” her either. You may want to get your facts straight. And, while some intel warnings were received prior to 911, do you think this administration would have handled it any better? What? Do you really think that British intelligence called and said, “Hey, they’re going to highjack a plane and ram it into the twin towers at 8 o’clock in the morning?” Get real. “Warnings” get passed along every day, some credible, others not so much. How’s your crystal ball working? And, really? You think that some of those guys at Gitmo were “just farmers”? Yeah, we like to send “farmers” to Gitmo, not “real” terrorists. Those clowns were well vetted, and deemed too dangerous to keep on the battlefield. Or, are you calling the military incompetent and not able to separate a farmer from a bad guy.

      • timr

        Rumsfeld was incompetent……THAT’s for sure…….and the rest of the Civlian leadership in the Bush Administration…………The miltary, as usual, were thrown into a MESS, and they had NO idea how to prepare for it………(Sounds like Vietnam, doesn’t it??)

      • Debo

        Eyes.
        You are a lunatic. Enough said.

      • looking4answers

        It is really important to think this through. Even though these people have comitted heinous crimes, or at least gave it their best shot…they are citizens of the United States of America. Unalienable rights are given by God and cannot be taken away by men without due process. To act otherwise leaves us all unprotected.

        If we allow the government to abrogate the unalienable rights of ANY American citizen, under any circumstances, no matter how we personally feel about them and what they did, who will stand in our defense when “THEY” come for us.

        The Department of Homeland Security and the current administration have already labeled us (anyone who openly disagrees with them, as domestic terrorists…

      • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Lulu

        newborn,
        you and your lib friends are like the citizens of N. Korea. Your leader is starving you while he lives in luxury but you still would fight for him at the drop of a hat. You are so innocent, and uninformed. Like sheep….. Try reading something useful or watch a real news show and not just realty shows. They are NOT real!

      • phil p

        knewborn you have got to be kidding… expert economists said that if our government did nothing in response to the economic crisis then employment would climb to 10%… HEY GUESS WHAT OBAMA HAS TRIPLED THE COUNTRIES DEFICIT AND INCREASED UNEMPLOYMENT RATES… OBAMA HAS NO BUSINESS BEING COMMANDER AND CHIEF OF OUR COUNTRY… I GUESS THATS WE GET FOR ELECTING A BLACK MAN… FREE HEALTHCARE FOR CRACK HEADS SHARING NEEDLES…OH BUT THEY ARE ENTITLED TO HEALTHCARE, WHEN THEY ARE CONTRIBUTING NOTHING TO SOCIETY AND IS RELYING ON HARD WORKING PEOPLE LIKE MY PARENTS AND MYSELF TO PAY THROUGH OUR TAX DOLLARS… DEMOCRATS JUST SUCK THEY HAVE NO BUSINESS BEING APART OF THIS COUNTRY

      • http://none Jeff

        hey buddy, it is just chance that you are where you are and are not some crack-head sharing needles. If you grew up in a poor black neighbourhood chances are that is where you would end up. 1863 was the year that black people were emancipated but it was another 100 years before they were given any kind of real rights. Even then they had to fight for them. Have some compassion for your fellow man. I have no doubt you work very hard for your money and there is a lot of waste of taxpayers dollars but some people in life don’t get the same chances as others. For instance I saw Bill Clinton speak and he said a 17 year old black kid reads at the same level as a 10 year old white kid or something to that effect. A lot of young kids in poor neighbourhoods don’t have a lot of opportunities. They join a gang and end up making 5.00 an our and have a 1 in 4 chance of being murdered. I don’t blame you for blaming them because it is human nature to not understand another person’s horrible predicament. Maybe we are making the fundamental attribution error when we think others are bad people and that is the reason they are crackheads and they deserve the misfortune that befalls them. The fundamental attribution error is when I am late for work I think it is due to circumstances beyond my control but when you are late for work, I think it is a flaw in your character. It is a very insidious bias and I think it goes a long way to explaining partisanship in politics. For instance why I don’t like Bush and you don’t like Obama.

      • Reverseproof

        I disliked the last four years of the Bush administration. He became a Democrat. I absolutely hate Obumma and his change I could never believe in. Also, I am not real sure I even like you. If you can’t see the light in the room, turn it on, you might see the truth……

      • Penny

        Nice. Lolita makes a comment that you don’t agree with so you resort to calling her an idiot?!! It is you that needs to wake up and smell the coffee.

      • http://ronyvo@yahoo.com Bill

        Wake up, newbborn,
        We have a terrorist in the White House.
        Obama is Muslim. You must have known that by now.
        Islam is our enemy. You know that, don’t you?
        It is a shame and disaster that we camee to that level of ignorance and unpatriotism.
        What is our army doing in Iraq and Afghanistan? Bring our brave soldiers back home. We need them heare to protect us from our perfidious politicians.

    • Alvin

      Putting it lightly you are a joke.Calling a man anti-american and he should be impeached. The man and his family love this country. Maybe it you who is anti american. Where were you when Bush was detroying this country probaly somewhere sleep. You are a prime example how costly uneducated people are. I wish it was a way to give people like you a one-way ticket out of this country.

      • tim

        Alvin, this country has gone MAD………..

        They wanted Obama out of office, before he was even sworn in…….

        And your’e right……..America is looking stupid to the World, with this right wing rhetoric………..(not that “W” didn’t make us look stupid)

      • http://Patrickdavis3@Mac.com Pat davis

        You cowbell liberals make me sick. Do some research. In stead of sitting around making smarmy comments.

      • timr

        (comment removed for offensive content)

      • rockinroll1064

        Maybe you can lead by example?

      • Steve

        Yep, and Obama bowing to every foreign king, sultan and dignitary doesn’t make us look stupid, does it?
        He is so pathetic it won’t surprise me when the day comes that the Obummer man walks into Burger King with his kids, and bows to the B.K. “King”
        I’m just waiting for him to bow to Kim Jong Ill, Vladimir Putin, or Macmoud Amadimijad. Then, the game will be over, and America will soon after be a memory.

      • timr

        Like Bush……..holding hands……….with the Saudi Prince……..????

        Getting worked up over Obama “bowing: to a Japamese Premier, is childish………..flat out, childish…….

        Is that the best you can do……??……Is America the ONLY Country on Earth????…….Should just HATE every other Country??……….

        You people sound SO fricken “Bumpkin” when talking about the world, and International Relations……………..

        Get educated you inbred, Morons………..

      • JeffH

        Gee timr, you have used those exact words before…wouldn’t you rather live in a country that you’d be happy in rather than this nasty, hatefull America with all of us nasty, hatefull patriots?

        Think about it and get back to me…I’d be more than happy to start a fund for your travel to “somewhere else” besides America.

      • timr

        JEFFH, there is plenty wrong with America, but, it’s YOU people who are claiming it’s almost GONE…………

        I’ll stay right here, thank you……….

      • JeffH

        bringing in the sheep
        bringing in the sheep
        Obama stands rejoicing
        bringing in you sheep

      • Cindy

        Timr will only stay until our tax money runs out for his welfare checks and food stamps. Apparently he doesn’t know time is short for him with all the illegal aliens robbing his cash cow.

      • http://none Tzion-Ben-Judah

        I do not advocate terrorism but should I be sent away from my beloved America because I think Obama is a fake who wormed his way into office by lieing to the American people about his citizenship.I think not.You sir are qwick to judge.You do not have all the answers and are ignorant about Obama and his cronies in Washington.They have an agenda and we who love this country patrioticly are not part of their equation.You must then be a liberal to the teeth to believe the Obama LIE.This is the same man who stood in Rev,Wrights so called church and listened to him cut down America over and over again and said a big AMEN each time.I could write a book on Mr.Obama because the list goes on and on about his spotless record.No thank you.I may have been born at night but it wasn’t last night.Kick me out of my own country?Better bring an army .You will have need of one.Shalom in spite of my disagreement.

      • timr

        Why does lie, because he isn’t fooled by the State of Israel?????

      • Mick for thought

        timr,
        Your points would carry more weight if you refrain from joining the name calling. Have you ever seen a screamer listen?

        Saw one of your comments was removed because of content; not good. If you want to be a reasonable voice of liberalism in this blog cool down a bit.

        I am sitting here on the fence watching both sides scream and fling the crap at each other while a few intelligent cool heads are speaking across the fence to one another. Join the conversation.

      • Gary

        Not a Citzen are you kidding you lost get over it. You say he wormed his way into office which is a joke when Bush got slected
        not elected in Florida and the court handed Bush the White House and that is FACT. There are peole like you who know nothing about the Bush family you just keep bitching and bitching. Now you have the internet look up prescott Bush and his dealing with Hitler.
        Look up what the Bush familydid to the savings and loans in colorado how they walked away rich and the hard working people lost everthing and guess what the tax’s payers got stuck paying that bill also and where were all you people then. Obama is black and never in the history has the Republican turned everything down and lie and they screamed like monkeys when they lost and the health care got passed.
        Then there are people bitching about bailing out GM. Man these people would rather have thousand of people on the unemploymt list instead of working and paying tax’s. Take the time to look up skull and bones and the bush family you might learn something that will surprise yo.
        Bushs tax’s cuts cost more then the health care reform that the tea party are bitching about.

      • Right Wing

        Gary, try spell check, thought check, and fact check. You get a zero on all three. I have said it before and will say it again…we get it that liberals did not like Bush. Bush is gone so get past it. Now we have a silver tongue salesman in office that proves to me how much of a figurehead the presidency really is. He acts like he is driving the bus but believe me he will only be the next to be thrown under it. If we can agree on one thing then maybe we can move past the Bush issue. Kleptocracy is the main issue that most conservatives and liberal should be able to agree on. Can we start there? I mean the guy accepted responsibility for Katrina and that was the end of that. All of the world’s problems started and now end with Bush so what else do you have?

      • ebb

        I’ve read all the comments and find that most of the comments are typical. If a negative comment about Obama then the liberals start with if you think Obama is bad look at George Bush. The blame Bush for every inadequacy of Obama is getting old. Bush may have done alot of things we didn’t approve of but you need to stop and start placing the blame with Obama. You have lost the argument when all you can do is call names and blame Bush.

        As far as impeachment, there are several reasons that it could be done if we had couragous Senators. But as was reading these comments above I did realize that noone really wants to listen to the other side and that is the reason we have reached this point in time.

      • http://yahoo jim

        God is the only one who can give shalom “peace” when you look to man especially the polititions no matter which party the only thing you can be sure of is disapointment.Look to God seek his will to understand these perilous times

      • craig

        Alvin, you sound like you indeed have the brain of a Chipmunk! Anyone with one brain cell can see that Obama is no lover of this country, it’s Constitution or its freedoms. Why does he spend money traveling all over the world denigrating this nation at every stop. Why is he steering us toward Godless Socialism, why does he want to control everything. why does he continuously lie, why is he weakening our armed forces and also homeland security. I could keep going and going and never be able to outline all the reasons he has no love for this country!

      • timr

        Craig…….you are a blind loyalist, who thinks this Country has no faults whatsoever……..

        The World HATED us, and pulled back their support when your idiot, “W” went into Iraq, which still goes down as the biggest Foreign Policy catastrophy in the the last 100 years………..and Obama had to repair friendships all over the world…….Countrys who have been our friends, who have shed blood with us in Wars, and all you “challenged” conservatives want us to do, is kiss Israel’s A$$……….and Saudi Arabia’s….A$$…………..

        Is all you want from your President, someone who praises God, and waves the Flag and wears a Cowboy hat?????????

        In that case, elect Roy Rogers…………..

        He’s the prsident of the United States…….not the head cowboy in Crawford……………

      • MichelleO

        That Tiem is the biggest bunch of [offensive word removed] I have ever heard, he is makin friends with the wrong people Hamas for one and tearing down one of our oldest and loyalest allies in history Isreal, go shouvel your [offensive word removed] somewhere else you lying pig

      • Claire

        Good grief.

      • http://none Jeff

        Craig when Bush was president the world’s disdain for america was at an alltime high. Bush’s policies brought america to the brink of world war 3. If not for the election of Obama I fear that the world and america were headed for a collision course. Obama being elected was great for america and the world because it gave people hope. If McCain had of been elected I’m afraid what would have happened around the world because of the backlash. People believed that there would be a change in Washington. Sadly many things are still the same but Obama is not denigrating america, he is re-establishing it as a responsible and respectable superpower for good. Godless socialism? Sorry but socialism has a lot to do with God. If Jesus were president do you not think he would want to provide the basics for people in life who cannot for whatever reason provide for themselves things like food, shelter and healthcare? I think Godless capitalism is a bit more appropriate. I don’t believe Obama is lying and as for not loving America even after all the death threats he has received you would be hard-pressed to find a man who does not love his country more.

      • http://Patrickdavis3@mac.com Patrickcake

        Either stop lying or give some proof.

      • WarriorH

        In case you haven’t notice Jeff, the administration is going after Glenn Beck and everyone else that disagrees with their policies. And by the way, how do you like the faith based initiatives pouring out of the democratic leadership these days? What ever happened to separation of church and state?

      • Stan B

        Jeff if you want to live in a communist country pls go to china and bring king OBUMMA with you, you are, tell me did you ever finish first grade ????? I don’t think so…

      • http://Patrickdavis3@Mac.com Pat davis

        Jeff,
        It seems that you have a big need to apologize to the rest of the world for all of this countries sins. I guess you were born after world war 2 and have no understanding of this countries history. You and obambi. Look up the Marshall plan and other great deeds that this country has done for the world. The Europeans all hide under their beds until we give re-assurance that things will be okay. I don’t give a fat rats ass when the leftist American news media distorts the greatness of this country. I don’t want my president going around the world apologizing to everyone for this countries supposed faults. If you have such a problem with us then pack your bags and move. Maybe you want your president to bow to the Saudi king and others. He couldn’t even get it right with the queen of England. He had the arrogance to give her an I-pod with all of his speeches and then insulted her and the English people by giving her movies on video in the wrong format. Why didn’t he bow to the queen. He also needs a lesson in geography. He re-marked in a speech while he was campaigning that he’d been to 56 states and only had one left. Keep sticking up for him you moron.

      • MichelleO

        Alvin this man has surrounded himself with Communist, his mentor was Frank Marshall Davis a Self avowed communist, William Aires,. Burnadette Dron both known Terrorist against the United States ,Obama has run all over the world apoligizing for the United States and is a Racist SOB to the Core just like his so called Reverend and I use the term loosley Wright, from the United Church of Black Theology Whos the Racist here now, You stupid Libs wouldnt know the truth if it hit you in the face, go wait for your welfare check and shut the hell up, no one here want to listen to your America Haten Retoric, go to Huff Post where your stupid comments will be tolerated with the same hate America Like minded people

      • PODVET

        to alvin,

        If he and his family loive this country, then why does he distain his oath of office?

      • Stan B

        Alvin your the biggest joke of all, OBUMMA doesn’t love this country, and neither does his wife, they both are communist, so was his mother, father, gra;ndfather, vallie Jarrett, Van Jones,all of his czars are either marxist, communist, or crazy insane idiots nut heads rev wright marxist, George Soros do you want me to keep on going ??? are you one of these free loaders that does’nt work just put your hand out because this country owe’s you a living, do you want to live in a marxist or communist country ???? well I don’t he’s a piece of garbage that should be thrown in a dump for china to pick up, by the way I’m not a racises, I’m a patroit veteran 8yrs in the USAF, I love this country, so don’t tell me that communist jerk does, he makes me sick…Why does he hide all of his papers, so far he’s spend over 1.4 million dollars to keep them hidden, I wonder why ???? Do you know ???

    • http://joeaeverson@hotmail.com Joe A. Everson

      Top US Spy Chief Quits After Obama Orders 2 Americans Assassinated
      By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers
      An interesting Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) report prepared for Prime Minister Putin circulating in the Kremlin today states that Obama’s top spy chief Admiral Dennis Blair abruptly resigned on Friday after the US President ordered the “immediate assassination” of an anti-government dissident and his 16 year old son in the US State of Arkansas.
      This SVR report, however, states that upon nearing the roadblock Kane and his son came under fire from US military snipers targeting them for assassination whereupon fire was returned from Kane’s vehicle allowing them to escape death but resulting in the other police officers deaths.
      After escaping, this report continues, a “furious” Admiral Blair called the White House to “demand” an explanation of what was occurring only to be “firmly rebuffed” by Obama officials who had set up this assassination plot causing Blair to “angrily retort” he would have nothing more to do with Obama and his resignation would be on the President’s desk “as soon as I write the ******* thing up”.

      • http://joeaeverson@hotmail.com Joe A. Everson

        Also interesting to note in this SVR report is that earlier in the week another American anti-tax dissident group named [delete for US-EU report] located in Williamsport, Pennsylvania was assaulted by United Nations troops (UN) allowed to operate in the United States by Obama and destroyed the entire facility with an explosion so loud it was heard throughout the region.

        Though not reported by the mainstream propaganda US media, the existence of this UN assault convoy roaming rural Pennsylvania this past week was reported on by their dissident news reports, and as we can read as reported by one of them named InfoWars.Com:

      • Sandra

        Good posts Joe!

    • http://yahoo.com Sue C

      Lolita! You are like all of us, just gullible! We all swallowed the stinking Bob Livingston’s FALSE ALARM! I don’t believe anything he says anymore, because, he does this just to create issues, that will cause simpletons, like you, and myself, to fall for his FIBS. THERE WAS NO HIT JOB, AS HE SAYS! THAT’S STUFF THAT WHITE MAN DOES TO IMMIGRANTS, ON THEIR JOBS! I WAS A VICTIM OF THE STUFF SO OFTEN, THAT I CAN SMELL IT, SIX MONTHS BEFORE IT ACTUALLY HAPPENS.

      BOB LIVINGSTON HAS A JOB, AND HE DOES VERY WELL AT FALSE ALARMS, AND MOST OF THE TIME, HE TRIES TO CLOBBER PRESIDENT OBAMA. THAT ALSO IS ANOTHER WHITE MAN’S WEAKNESS. THEY LIKE TO SMEAR PEOPLES’ NAME, AND WILL GIVE YOU A BASKET TO FETCH WATER.

      LOLITA! IF YOU ARE EMPLOYED, SPEND MORE TIME ON MAKING YOUR APT/HOUSE INTO A HOME, AND LOOK AFTER THE THINGS THAT WILL BENEFIT YOURSELF. LEAVE BOB LIVINGSTON, WITH HIS MINDLESS LITTLE GAMES, AND AT SOME TIME, HE WILL CONK OUT, WITH THEM. ALL THE BEST!

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