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Civil Rights Groups Sue Arizona, Claim Immigration Law Violates First Amendment

May 21, 2010 by  

Civil rights groups sue Arizona, claim immigration law violates First Amendment As the firestorm of criticism continues to surround the recently passed Arizona immigration law—which allows police officers to demand documents from individuals who they suspect may be in the United States illegally—major civil rights organizations have filed a lawsuit challenging the legislation.

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and a coalition of civil rights groups filed a class action lawsuit in the U.S. District Court for the District of Arizona, charging that the law is "extreme," opens doors to racial profiling of minorities, violates the First Amendment and interferes with Federal law.

"Arizona’s law is quintessentially un-American: we are not a ‘show me your papers’ country, nor one that believes in subjecting people to harassment, investigation and arrest simply because others may perceive them as foreign," said Omar Jadwat, a staff attorney with the ACLU Immigrants’ Rights Project.

Jadwat expressed his confidence that the lawsuit will prevent the law from ever being implemented.

He was seconded in his opinion by Victor Viramontes, senior national counsel for the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund (MALDEF), who stated that the law is "discriminatory" and "pushes Arizona into a spiral of fear, increased crime and costly litigation."

In addition to MALDEF, the ACLU was joined by the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, ACLU of Arizona, National Day Laborer Organizing Network and the Asian Pacific American Legal Center. ADNFCR-1961-ID-19785072-ADNFCR

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  • Bob Plugh

    Obuma Hussein is as close to the anti-christ as I have seen. Hitler – HA – Hitler was a piece of dog s**t compared to Obuma Hussein. Obuma is a far greater threat to the US than Hitler because he is slowly dismantling it – from the INSIDE OUT.

    It is no small consequence that he doesn’t allow his educational records to be viewed, that his SSN comes from Connecticut, a place he never visited, that he was largely raised in Muslim Countries by MUSLIMS, that his book, “Dreams of my Father” says quite plainly that he will stand with the Muslims, against other!!!

    I feel like I’m in one of those movies like the Outer Limits where you just don’t believe that everyone around you isn’t aware of what’s going on and you’re about to wake up… I just hope ENOUGH of us ARE aware and take action – vote these bast**ds out ASAP! In fact, IMPEACH them. They ALL took oaths of office to uphold and defend the constitution, NEITHER of which they are doing!!! IMPEACH!!!!

  • chris from sc

    Where are the other states who believe that enforcing our laws are the right thing to do .Laws should apply to everyone,I can kinda see were the liberial don’t want to hurt anyone’s fellings states back away but were are our conservative believe in the law o the land states!We can/t leave Arizona out to dry just because they did was right.I’m from S.C. ad if we can get this law on the docket before june it has a chance.So please call your lawmaker’s and let them know this is already a law we just ned to inforce it.AS for as these sancuary cities calling for boycotts if you get a chance travel to Arizona go it’s a great state and tell the how much you appreciate and admire them for following our law’s.One more thing the illegal’s have crushed the construction trade they work cheap, fast and shoty why should yyou take pride in what your doing why take pride in your work if your here just to make money to send back to Mexico.S.C. is a right to work state and when obama signed is executive order saying any federal job over 25,000,000 that put the screws to alot of company’s,maybe it’s me but sound’s like abuse of power.Next time you see on t.v. all these american recovery job’s count the amigo’s on them.If you here the media spin it the only thing immagants or doing is working resturant’s,cleaning motel’s and house’s for cheap labor but I’m telling you they are killing the construction trade where it take’s year’s to aquire,and please if I here they pay taxe’s one more time I’m going to pull what little bit of hair I have out!Please people Arizona need’s our hep.

    • bruce callen

      Right on. They work all the jobs we wont take because we cant live on what they pay the illegal workers. Nor do we wish to live on a single cot with 30 other people in a hallway of some run down building owned by an over paid banker.

  • jtrailroad

    illegal aliens dont have civcil rights for they arnt american citizens.if they dont haave the paper work with them.they must have with them,
    passport
    work visa
    a suporter
    file for an I-9 form so they cxan get I-94 document with them. it tells the USA thier legal name,legal residence,what nation they are from,social securty card number and what job(s) they can do.I-94 document must be shown with in 3 days of hirring or they aree supended from that job!

  • David

    I saw that disgusting speach Obama made for the President of Mexico. He said and did everything but kiss his ass. He probably did that later behind closed doors.

  • Norman

    If you will take the time to read to read The Constitution and then compare it to the Arizona Law you will not find much difference. The Arizona Law just enforces what is said in the Constitute that “OUR GOVERNMENT” will not enforce. We have all the “LAWS” we need, we just need “ENFORCEMENT” of them by “OUR GOVERNMENT”! Do not tie the hands of the Law Enforcement Offerers that are only trying to do their jobs, their job is tough enough as it is, give them some help to uphold the Constitute of our “GREAT LAND!” And you might become an “OATH KEEPER” yourself! That is if you want to help save “OUR GREAT COUNTRY”
    Korean Vet and
    OATH KEEPER

  • bargal

    Tony in MO is correct and I to wish the main stream media would get a transcript of Oreilly’s show from 5-20-2010 and write the facts as Megan Kelly espoused them and stop all this bull shite and dump this POTUSINO’s attempt to start a race war. The law in Arizona is against ILLEGALS of any race from any country coming across Arizona’s border and so is the IMMIGRATION LAW in the Federal books. Stop to think folks: it is illegal to drive a car under the influence of a mind altering drug (alcohol, narcotics, meds, etc) so they put up check points to stop the all drivers coming to that check point to ensure safety on the roads.At the time we are stopped and there is a suspicion we may be driving IILLEGALY, we, under the law can be asked for our I.D. What the hell is the difference if we are checking people, after a legal altercation with the police and ask them for I.D.? Is the POTUSINO so desperate for votes that he has to start singling out states that disagree with his policies?Is the media still in awe of this man that refuses to prove he is an American citizen when all the rest of us are compelled to do so on every avenue we take?

    • KELLI2L

      You comments are absolutely correct.
      What would this administration do? Allow the ILLEGALS to not be asked for papers but only require the American citizens to produce identification? …..This is crazy thinking !!!

  • Eric in AZ

    Oh, and by-the-way. The ILLEGAL, UNDOCUMENTED suspects are released.
    No questions.

    • Al Sieber

      You hit the nail on the head Eric in AZ., I don’t understand why they’re treated so special, that what pisses me off, no drivers license, no insurance, you can go. I guess it’s like that in other states too.

  • chucky

    NO MATTER HOW MUCH THEY SPIN IT ,NO MATTER HOW MUCH THEY SUGAR COAT IT. SETTLE FOR NOTHING LESS THAN TOTAL DEPORTATION. AMERICA NEEDS TO BE TAKEN BACK BY WE THE PEOPLE. ANY POLITICIANS WHO STOOD IN OVATION FOR EL PRESIDENTE CALDERON YESTERDAY COMMITTED TREASON IN MY EYES, aAND THE EYES OF MANY AMERICA. YOU PLACED YOUR HAND ON THE BIBLE AND TOOK AN OATH TO UPHOLD AND PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. YOUR VOTE THIS NOVEMBER JUST MIGHT BE THE MOST VALUABLE OF ALL THE POSSESIONS YOU HOLD. GOD(OMG I SAID THE G WORD) BLESS AMERICA.

  • paul kimrey

    The ACLU and the progressive movement go by the principle that if you tell a lie often enough and loud enough and just ignore all arguments to the contrary,that the lie by proxy become truth.

  • Brent Davidson

    Excuse me! Why doesn’t the President of the USA want to follow the laws of our boders and protect us from unathorized invasion, and corruption??
    Police all over America stop people all the time performing “ROAD CHECKS.”
    They always ask for some form of legal documentation, and ask questions like where have you been ? Have you been drinking? Where are you going? Where do you live. If police can’t stop people in Arizona for any reason, it seems to me that ROAD CHECKS, and unauthorized stops, should be illegal elsewhere too.
    Who would have thought there could be Law suits filed because we want the US immigration Laws to be enforced ?? Wol! More tax payer money down the drain! Will the blunder of America ever stop?

    • OKAY

      Brent Davidson…”Why doesn’t the President of the USA want to follow the laws of our borders and protect us from unathorized invasion, and corruption??” That’s easy. Because he’s anti-American and wants to divide this country using any means possible. He adhers to the “divide and conquer” axiom. When he let Mexico’s president bad mouth the Arizona immigration law, he took the side of the illegals and threw American’s under the bus. In his treasonous mind, America is the enemy so he comes to the aid of the illegals and our enemies. Let’s not forgot that he’s trying to drum up bodies that will vote his way in future elections. We have a lot of work ahead of us to save this country because we are being attacked from within, literally and figuratively. It’s a shame that some of our own members of Congress gave a standing ovation to this moron after he chastized Arizona’s law. As far as I’m concerned, that makes them anti-American too and they and our apologetic president don’t need to be representing this country.

    • JC

      The President’s goal is the destruction of the USA. He works for the globalists.

  • LMW

    We’re not a “show us your papers” kind of country? Since when? To get a job, we are asked to show our Drivers License and our Social Security cards. In some states, and a number which is growing, in order to get your Drivers License, you now have to show your Birth Certificate or Naturalization Papers, Proof of any name change, Social Security Card and two proofs of residence with YOUR name on them or an affidavit from the person who’s name is on it. To open a checking account, you show ID. To put your child in school, you show ID…..but apparently, only if you’re an American Citizen.

    It is easier to register to vote then it is to get a Drivers License in many states – seems like American Citizens are the only ones required to show papers in this country anymore…..I have to say I never bought into the theory that the Dems want the illegals to be given the right to vote in order to have permanent control of Washington – but I’m getting there.

    The ACLU has the right to file suit – but I doubt they’ll win on this one since the Arizona Law, despite the Lies of the Democrats and the Mexican President, differs from the Federal Law in only one way – the police have to have legal reason to ask for the ID – Feds can stop anyone on the street and ask………! And cops who can’t prove they had legitimate reasons can be jailed and/or have a lawsuit filed against them.

  • Eric in AZ

    What if YOU, as a legal, documented AMERICAN, were pulled over by the police. This officer asks you for your drivers license. YOU AS AN LEGAL AMERICAN fail to show your ID, you cannot prove who you are. The Officer “runs” who you claim you are and finds no such person. You are now suspect because the officer cannot identify you. What happens to you in ANY state of this union? I’ll tell you if you don’t know. WELL H***, YOU ARE DETAINED AND ARRESTED!!! AS A LEGAL AMERICAN!! What makes them think that they are better than us!!
    Racisim…….

    • TIME

      Eric, Good point dude thats why you by law are required to have a photo ID of yourself at all times.

      In NY they do road side checks all the time, I am not sure the real reason behind them but these are what is noted;
      DUI, Driving with out seat belts, amoung other reasons, oh and you can be pulled over for talking on a cell phone as thats now a No No here and way long over due if I do say so myself.

      • Todd

        Uhh, actually you are not required to carry id on your person all the time in the USA as a citizen (tourists – yes, green card holders – yes). You do or course have to have a valid license when operating a vehicle on public roads. as far as the moron thinking he won’t be found in the system, i think he’s trying to find a reason to complain about a law that has been on the books for quite a long time (federal law). Funny how since dems are in power now this is such a problem. I’m with another commenter, AZ should say: “Fine, you don’t like it, we’ll repeal it and replace it with a carbon copy of Mexico’s law” happy now? Every country on the planet has immigration laws. Unlike the US, they actually enforce theirs. Iran holding three lost hikers for violating their immigration laws and not a peep from the left. The enemy is getting desperate, and is becoming more obvious in his actions, if only folks will open they eyes to see and their ears to hear.

      • bruce callen

        American citizens by law are required to carry their social security card on their person at all times. Many states sell state IDs as an acceptable form of identification of American citizens. As a result of state laws wallet size birth certificates are available to all citizens and required to be presented as part of the papers you must present for a traffic stop. American citizens actually are required to carry far more identification than an illegal in our country.

        Arizona is a sovereign state with the right to determine whom they want as a citizen or as a visitor. Unless you are a citizen you have no rights under our laws, just the respect one person should show another. Discrimination is not part of their new law, controlling crime in their state is.

      • libertytrain

        bruce – I don’t think you’re 100%correct, particularly about the SS#. http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/microsites/idtheft/consumers/deter.html

  • http://immigration.civiltalks.com/ JuanM961

    I am Latino and I run a little shop in Mohave Valley. All my immigration papers are in order, and apparently this should not make me fidget about this new law. I totally agree that ILLEGAL immigration is a problem, and that a lot of crimes are attributed namely to illegal immigrants (burglars, drug smugglers, kidnappers). Still I do not agree that all immigrants should be treated like criminals or potential criminals. Moreover it seems to me that this law is namely targeted at Mexican people. The police officer will now be allowed to check the immigration status of a person if “reasonable suspicion exists that the person is an alien who is unlawfully present in the United States…” (http://immigration.civiltalks.com). It is indisputable that the law officers will rather stop a Mexican, Hispanic, Japanese or Chinese guy to check his documents than a European looking person, since they a priori raise more “reasonable suspicion”. And I know that the law prohibits racial profiling, but it’s still up to the judgment of each individual police officer in deciding what is “reasonable suspicion”.

    • JC

      Juan, I have friends who are of Mexican descent and they are as American as the European version. But they behave as Americans and with their brown eyes and black hair they know they would possibly targeted by INS etc.. They don’t seem to mind the idea because they want the streets cleaned up just as much as their fellow Americans do.
      One of these friends can trace his roots back to the Alamo where one of his ancestors fought…from “inside” the fort. How American is that?

    • Al Sieber

      JuanM961,I live not to far from you, near the little ghost town east of you. what do the majority of people sneaking over from Mexico look like?

    • squellybean

      Awwww….poor baby…you come to this country ILLEGALLY and the poor USA police are picking on you!!!!!! Come LEGALLY and you won’t have to worry about profiling or “discrimination”. If you ask me…ILLEGALS can’t be “discriminated” in our country because they have NO RIGHTS!!! They don’t belong here in the first place!!!!

      Americans are SICK of the bull these illegals are getting away with and the US Govt allowing it to continue……..FINALLY a state is taking initiative and standing up for itself and it’s citizens……nothing “illegal” about the law…it’s just that the Illegals and the ilk that like to stir up SHIT don’t like being told what to do under the same law that the LEGAL Americans have to do…

      Don’t like our laws??? GET THE HELL OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Al Sieber

      JuanM961, I’m not picking on you, but, if I was in Mexico illegally I could be picked out of crowd easy. everybody has to show I.D. when you’re stopped.

    • TIME

      Juan,

      I think you may be missing the point, the facts as you stated are that you are here legaly, or did I read that wrong?

      The folks that brought me up were here legaly from Japan but during WW II they were removed from their home and sent to a Prison Camp, yes you read that right. They spent 3 years in that camp, “they lost thier home, thier small business and three years of their life” behind bars for no reason at all.

      And you know what they never complained, they understood that it was for the benifit of the Country.

      So if your pissing and moaning over a law that if you really saw all 15 pages of it, you would see that it clearly has no effect on anything other than mandating that the {{federal laws already in place be enforced to the letter of the law.}}

    • AZ Rifleman

      Hi Juan,

      I’ve been in Law Enforcement for more than 30 years and throughout have never had the desire, or entertained the thought of harrasing or profiling anyone for any reason. the truth is business is good and there is pleanty of crime to go around and little free time beyond legitimately addressing it.

      Yet the glaring truth regarding illigal imigration is that a person illegally in this country as any other, is by their presence committing a crime and therefore to a some degree, by the ongoing act, a criminal (Living / acting outside the established law).

      The process established by any contry to allow entry and residence temporary or perminant is very important in the security of the country of desire because it is through these steps the applicant can be previewed, and determined not only to be allowed legal acceptance but as well to identify existance of a criminal /non-criminal past or connection.

      Once this “status” is addressed through the legal imigration process, the applicant is legitimately identified and admittance is permitted this takes a load off the back of the “Cop on the beat”, because he knows in reviewing a document of such status, the “background” on this person here legally, has been reviewed and approved and he isn’t strapped with the additional duty of investigating beyond it. Subsequently he is free to then complete the assignment he was called to originally and move on.

      It’s much like an officer investigating a traffic accident. Protocol dictates upon arrival he makes the scene secure and attends to injury, then he is free to commit to the incident investigation. In doing so identifying involved persons, (drivers, passengers, witnesses is essential). The monkey wrench is thrown though when an involved person can not produce verifications such as Driver’s License, registration, Insurance, which by law are demanded to be carried and made available by drivers on all public thoroughfarea in the US.

      It is my experience, any inquiry originates through an assessment of possible violation promped by resonable suspicion and developed through investigative practice to probable cause followed as if by rungs in a ladder each step addressed in its own turn and time accorded by rules, regulations and policies which we are required for numerous reasons to operate within. These procedures construct the framework that directs our contact with those we serve.

      Beleive me the new issues surrounding Illegal Imigration are not viewed as some wimsical opportunity to pad some stat-book, but one more burdon added to the officer on the street who took an oath to do his duty, protect and serve and enforce all laws of the state.

      Wheather it is admitted or not with most persons presenting opposition to immigration reform and action is not a question of procedure in enforcement, but a desire for law enforcement to turn his head and not get involved. That “cancer” is called selective enforcement.

      Sincerely and with deepest respect…

      • JC

        God Bless and GO ARIZONA

      • Jana

        AZ Rifleman,
        thank you for this great post.
        I think most of realize that the police are not out to “get” anyone, just those that are out breaking the laws or hurting people. The police’s job is to help people, even illegals if they are in trouble. No one is out to persecute anyone. Too much paperwork!.

    • Old man

      I have read Arizona’s new law several times, yet I do not see the words Mexican, or Hispanic any where in the law. I have been informed by a very good source, that there are several other non-hispanic countries sending people in across our Southern border.
      How ever, if a police officer pulls a car (on the waqy to get ice cream!) and the occupants cannpot speak English, he/she suddenly has good reason to wonder if this person actually belongs here.

      But let us stop and think a minute, when was the last time a police officer pulled any one over and did not ask to see identification? Usually a drivers license will do it, but if not, or if you did something pretty bad (or if they think you did), you may be taken to jail and booked. Then you contact your lawyer, and he will straighten the mess out if you are innocent, if you are not innocent, you have to pay the price. That is what happens when you are guilty of misdeeds in this country. Other countries, well not so easy as that!

      Now back to the original question of sueing Arizona. If their law mirrors the United States law, will they be sueing the United States government also?

      You will find that most people in this country like Hispanics, if they are decent people. The problems start when the subjects start coming here illegaly. We do actually have rules allowing people to igrate here, but they need to follow this path to avoid being illegals.
      May I remind you that most of the conspiriters of the 9/11 tragedy were here illegaly.

      Oh and I have spent time in Mexico and other hispanic countries. You do not want to be put in jail there!

    • http://?? Joe H.

      JuanM961,
      Welcome to your new country and I truly mean that as you are here legally, if what you say is fact. I can tell you have made the same mistake as the DC types and have not read the Arizona law. If you had, you would know anyone stopped and asked for ID have to have broken some type of law, even a minor infraction! I f they don’t speed, deal drugs murder, illegally park, break ANY law at all they don’t have to worry! In other words, keep your nose clean like I have for 59 years. Never had even a parking ticket!!!

    • James R

      Hello Juan, remember the law states that the Police Officer can only ask about legal status, after the person has been contacted due to a lawful reason, or the infraction of a law witnessed by the officer. He cannot just stop someone if they are not breaking any laws. He can only ask about legal status if he has a “resonable suspicion” that the person could be an illigal alien, after he has made a lawful encounter. I wish people would remember what the law actually states.

    • marvin

      JuanM961 i guess that why i have been stopped hundreds of times,in my 65 years guess mabe they could not tell i am white and have proper papers or id, well now here an idea mabe they don,t give a rats ass what color you are, mabe they think that a gun and badge give them that right,THEY ARE THE ENFORCER OF THE LAW STUPED 99.9% of the time if you an,t doing nothing illegal you have nothing to worry about

  • Dr. smith

    The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution is part of the Bill of Rights. The amendment prohibits the making of any law “respecting an establishment of religion”, impeding the free exercise of religion, infringing on the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.

    There it is. How does the ACLU find the fact that Arizonians want to protect their border, their right to property, or the fact that those entering are doing it Illegally? Just shows how twisted, anti-American greedy parasitic lawyers can be.

    • JC

      Goes to show that our Justice System is not based on the Constitution at all. We have a “Law System” based on “Interpretations” of the Constitution. It’s completely immoral and as far as I’m concerned…traitorous.

    • TIME

      Dr Smith,
      All godd points, but saddly as with everything else its all a Dog and Pony show to hide whats really going on.
      If anyone reads this bill it they would note that it fails to do any of what the ACLU has stated in the noted suit.

      So why all the SMOKE, could it fact be due to old Hill the pill signing the UN small arms bill, that will make all US laws to include the second Amd – Null & Void?

      In plain words folks your guns are not long for your ownership.

      • Al Sieber

        TIME, was that signed earlier this week?

      • TIME

        Hi Al,
        Yes – as far as I know – thats from a really strong source one just a 1/2 step from the WH and someone who is a “true American” they are not one of these twisted bent perverted social justice progressive marxist sob’s that the DC belt way now seems to have a flood of.

        This Law side steps the Constitution, as well the normal methods of passing a bill through Congress and the Senate. Think the old One World Government / New World Order thing that we have been hearing about since Johnson.

        Keep in mind that BarryO also signed an agrement with the UN just days after getting into office in January 2009 – that allows UN Troops on US soild for any possible uprising.

      • Al Sieber

        TIME, I’m afraid you’re right, I “goggled it” and it said Hillary signed it.it’s a sad day in American History. I “goggled”: u.n./small arms treaty.

      • JC

        Depose the kenyan imposter and repeal every piece of legislation that blackgaurd has brought in.

    • American First

      That is right and where in the Ammendment does it say and or state that illegals from any Foriegn country, have any what so ever any kind of rights in the United States of America.

  • Kris

    It is required by fed law that all resident aliens carry their green card on their person at all times and are required to show it when asked for by law enforcement. The law, Moller vs Amenya, “sure I got the spelling wrong” give federal law enforcement the power to stop WITHOUT reasonable suspicion any person they come in contact with to show their identification. Arizona’s law makes that unlawful and reqires that the police have lawful contact with the subjects before they can ask for their “papers”. This was a recent decision by the supremes, like maybe 2005.

    Calderon coming over here and scolding us for making “our” own laws that he happens not to like is a disgrace. What is worse is this so called president letting, or should I say, giving him the material or a script to say it. The dems like a bunch of brainwashed loons standing up and cheering, is indefensable!!! I say we adopt Mexico’s immigration laws! But first, we have to bild more jail cells!

    • Kim McGough

      Yes, and send all those penny ante DC bunch that stood to honor the Mexican pres to Mexico and revoke their citizenship and take all of their assests and not let them come back to the USA

  • BRUCE

    WHY IS IT THESE GROUPS DON’T UNDERSTAND ILLEGALS HAVE NO RIGHTS IN OUR COUNTRY?. I SURE CAN TELL THEY DO NOT LIVE AMOUNG THEM OR THEIR ATTITUDE WOULD CHANGE…PRONTO

    • http://aol.com Bob

      these groups ( like the aclu and democrats) view them as a voting block to keep those losers in office. Frankly they need to show the face of every democrat or republican that clapped during the speech by the mexican president and kick them out of office. I think that the morons in the aclu need to be horse whipped and tarred and feathered and sent to mexico to live because they obviously don’t fathom what the word illegal means.

  • Al Sieber

    Every time I was ever stopped by a cop here in Ariz. I’ve always been asked for I.D., what makes these people so special, the drug dealing president of the 3rd world terrorist state of Mexico needs to take care of his own country. and our congress plays kiss a$$ with the Mexican president, they’re all traitors to the people of the U.S..this state law mirrors federal law which isn’t enforced.

    • JC

      Al, the behaviour of those politicians is in line with their North American Union agenda. The goal is the removal of American, Canadian and Mexican sovereignty as the next step towards a Marxist Globalist government.
      We have to fight this act of sedition with every means available.

      • Al Sieber

        JC, my thoughts exactly, thanks for the link. if you read the communist manifesto we’re already there.

  • Sylvia

    Washington speaks with forked tongue. They are after the catholic vote. They want the Hispanics voting in the USA. God have mercy on this great nation – it’s for sure the Obama administration is not seeking the good of the people.

  • Robert

    Maybe the ALCU should live on the border of Arizona and Mexico. Maybe illegal may threaten them and maybe they see what is wrong, or maybe they should read the law of Arizona. There is still a federal law and been one for years, but people not read that either. Try to cross into mexico from usa and see what happens to you if caught. Jail.

    • Jana

      Robert,
      The ACLU is part of the problem. They have their lawyers getting document fors the illegals.
      They come from Mexico armed with information on what their rights are and what they can get for free, and who to go to so they can get this free stuff. They know the ACLU lawyers are their friends. Remember as someone put the C was for Communism, and I beleive it.

      • Jana

        On the Anchor babies blog on this same site, one of the other bloggers wrote this, so I am copying this as well as my post right after as this is super good information.

        airangel says:
        May 22, 2010 at 10:47 am
        Within the past few years, leprosy, tuberculosis, hepatitis, Chagas disease and even malaria have jumped over our borders from Mexico on the backs of an average 10,000 illegal aliens daily, seven days a week and 365 days a year. Our borders are no safer today than before 9/11, and in fact, more dangerous.

        The national media-worthy traumas occurred two years ago at Chi-Chi Restaurants in Monaco, Pennsylvania with hepatitis killing patrons who ate there. Later, we read where police, teachers and students tested positive for tuberculosis all around the country. All of it related to illegal aliens crossing into the US without health screening.

        Last year, another Third World disease rose its ugly head in Oregon. It may have spread to other states across our nation. It won’t get the play of the deadly attacks of hepatitis or tuberculosis, however, for American children exposed to this disease, it’s a personal nightmare for parents.

        Worse, it may take years to manifest itself in the child. By that time, it may be too late. The infection is ‘neurocysticercosis’, which is caused by the parasite Taenia solium. It’s a tapeworm identified as the cause of this disease in the Southwestern United States.

        It is especially rampant in the growing ‘colonias’ (new neighborhoods) stretching from Brownsville, Texas along the Mexican border all the way to San Diego, California. The poorest illegal alien migrants set up shantytowns on the U.S. side of the border. They feature no sanitation of any kind. No toilets. No showers. No clean water. Disease proliferates unchecked.

        WE HAVE TO SECURE THE BORDER and CLEAN UP THE MESS. No wonder the hospitals are over taxed and shutting down…they simply can’t keep up and our kids are exposed..Calderon needs to take care of his own citizens and educate them on clean living and basic hygiene. We have a HUGE problem. Secure our borders and push back on Calderon.

        Reply
        Jana says:
        May 22, 2010 at 1:29 pm
        airangel,
        This is some very good information to know. Thanks for sharing this. We must realize that the people from the third world countries don’t have the clean water that we do, and don’t have the hygiene practices that we do.This is one of the reasons that they eat the really hot peppers and the really spicy foods, because it kills parasites and helps control a lot of the diseases. Plus, over here we are not used to all of the germs that they get into all of the time. They don’t know to wash their hands after going to the bathroom, they don’t wash their hands when they cough or sneeze or wipe away their runny noses with their hands. They haven’t been taught.
        Then, we invite these same people to come over and cook for us, and clean for us? WOW. No wonder there is an outbreak of new to us diseases. They aren’t doing this on purpose, they just don’t realize or know how to stop it. They don’t even realize they are carrying these things with them.
        There was more than one reason the government started pushing the hand sanitizers.

    • wayne bauer

      Why hasn’t the aclu been disbanded, why does anyone pay attention to this corrupt antiamerican organization. We do know there are way too many attorneys for the good of this country. This is one other area for the destruction of the country. We need to find legitimate jobs and quit recognizing attorneys. For info the owners of progressive insurance are biggest supporters of aclu are you supporting them? Words are great but to make a difference we need to take whatever action we can. Why do we let these lawsuits waste our judicial system, it should be known when they lose they pay all expenses.

  • 3rd worlder

    I always show my U.S. passport to police officers or anyone else of authority when asked for ID in America. Seems to carry more credibility than the other phony ID’s like driver license and registration. Don’t know if local police can ask for your passport, but I wouldn’t mind if they did it for everyone.

    • Jana

      3rd worlder,
      Thank you, and WELCOME TO THE UNITED STATES.

    • marvin

      3rd worlder only trouble is most americans don,t have a need for a passport like me i went to canada 40 years ago but it is good you have id ,a lot of my ancestor were here befor the white or black man but when you set and watch elected officals all on the dem,oc,Rat, side STAND AND CLAP for a man from the failed state of mexico tell us we are wrong to try enforce are immigration laws and arizona has no bussiness passing immigration laws, the vp, pelosie,holder nepolitano were all committing treason by allowing this imbecile caldron to speak his garbage nov 2010 can,t come fast enuff my blue dog rep just lost my vote over this, we can not allowed this

  • Tony in MO

    According to Megyn Kelly, a Fox News program host and attorney, conducted some constitutional law research and said that Arizona’s law is constitutional and also is less stringent than existing Federal laws. I’d be far more inclined to believe her than I would those pandering and slobbering fools who have blustered and pontificated without even reading Arizona’s law.

    • John

      I saw that and agree too.

      As a recent citizen, I became a legal resident in 1981, I know what it’s like to have to prove my status at any time.

      I’m for Nat ID card (we already have it by another name) and let’s demand ID anytime, anywhere.
      That’ll take the issue TO the illegals rather than us having to be on the defensive from their attacks.

      • Jana

        We do have a national ID it is called our Social Security Number, then if we want to drive we must have a valid drivers license. The illegals don’t have these and they feel disgriminated against for having to show this proof. Well too bad, we have to show our proof to be able to drive, as well as insurance on the vehicle.
        Even in shcool they have school ID’s.
        This is such a stupid argument that this is discriminating. The only ones being discriminated against are the citizens of the United States.
        If you get behind an illegal while driving, most of the time you are going to be going 10 mph because they don’t know the laws. We have a lot of them around here and you can tell by the way they drive that they don’t read English and they don’t know our laws. If you get hit by an illegal they run and leave you with paying the bills for the accident. This is a daily occurance around here, and I know its worse in Arizona.

      • http://sizer@comporium.net Linda

        If any person is stoped by an officer the first thing they want is some kind of identification. How does this show any kind of discremination? Those who are so set on making life easy for “everyone” should take a helicopter ride along the Az border. Pics worth 1000 words. Why are the “loud-mouths” so set on this kind of destruction? Guess they are so settled in DC they don’t really know what goes on in the real world. I heard a lawyer say once that lawyers go to school for eight years to learn what the laws are so they can spend they’er career finding ways to get around them. Think this country is run by toooo many lawyers!!! Me too!!

  • Dennis

    I think I have a solution to all the mess in DC. We just need to kick out all the dems, repubs, and obama, then find and run a communist party person. That way all the talking and so called political BS would be over. This unknown person would make it simple, do it my way or else. Hey maybe we already have this, after all we have obama, pelosi and reid [for a while longer] and that is the way they do business. Forget the communist, they are already in power,my way or else. I recently read a great book about Vietnema, I am a Vet, and one of the platforms that Ho CI MIN had was “spread the wealth” does that sound famaliar???

    • JC

      160 Years ago in 1848 in Paris, France, a man named Carl Marx was asked to enter a competition which was sponsored by the National Socialist Union in Paris, France. Being a firm believer in Communism, Carl Marx called his submission “The Communist Manifesto” and within this manifesto Marx wrote down 10 Planks. These 10 Planks are the basic founding building blocks to a perfect Communist/Socialist society.

      Dennis and everyone else; You will find a very interesting comparison between the 10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto and our own Political System at this link -
      http://www.squidoo.com/communists-manifesto

      The Communist Party of America actually de-registered itself in (I believe) the late 50′s or early 60′s after seeing that the White House had adopted all 10 planks.

      We need to see a massive return and adherence to the Constitution of The United States of America and its original intent as set forth by the framers or suffer a complete loss of our identity and soveriegnty.

      • coal miner

        JC,

        Who ever wrote that didn’t spell Karl Marx’s name right,this mental giant had it spelled Carl Marx.National Socialism and Communism are two different philosophies,one is own the extreme right,the other the extreme left.Hitler wrote his book the Mein Kampf(meaning My Struggle)which bore no resemblance to Marx’s Das Kapital.Marx argue the workers would rule the world,Hitler said the. Nordic races are destined to be masters of the humanity,other races are only fit to serve the master race.Hitler said socialism and communism were invented by the Jews and he made no bones about it, he hated them.Read Mein Kampf,not the ranting and raving of Rush Limbaugh.

      • JC

        I’ll start with “Screw you.”
        Like the Liberal idiot you are you nit pick spelling and ignore the message.
        I have never listened to Beck / Limbaugh or Fox. I’ve simply studied American History and paid attention to the District of Criminals.
        And I’ll finish with Screw you and your liberal (socialist) pals.
        As far as I’m concerned we’re way past the point of dialogue with you people. Time for action, not words.

      • Steve

        JC
        Isn’t it funny how the libs always resort to the spelling issue, when that is their weakest link. I haven’t seen one of them that can spell, correctly form, or construct a proper sentence. But then when they can’t debate the issues, I guess that’s all they’ve got! lol ;-)

      • JC

        Morality and logic don’t fit into their agenda Steve,
        so you’re right, it is all they’ve got.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        JC,
        Of all the libbies on here, I can’t believe that Coal scab is calling anyone on their spelling!! I’ve seen second graders that could spell better than him!!!

      • Dale

        Coal Miner . . . fascism was invented by Mussolini . . . he was a devout follower of Marx and Engels, the founders of Communism.
        Hitler was a fascist. The difference between fascism and communism was basic . . . the commies killed all the elite, the fascists meerly confiscated their property and business but had them run them. Hitler was right wing . . . that is an “Insane” statement . . . he was a Socialist, said so many times. And by the way what does NAZI mean???
        NAZI means “Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei” or National SOCIALIST German workers party.

      • coal miner

        Dale,

        Wrong,Mussolini was a Marxist Socialist.He later on became disenchanted with the left and founded a extreme right wing party which he named The Fascist Party,his goal make Italy a world power.Hitler never did embrace Marxism,he call it a Jewish invention.In the Mein Kampf he said the Jews over ran the great state of Russia and he always attack Marxism.The name National Socialism is a loose term,it was used to attrack soldiers,disgruntled workers and industrialist who feared communism and hated socialism.Years ago I contacted George Lincoln Rockwell ask him if he was on the left,his response he was a right winger.In the Playboy interview he said he challenged Robert Welch to a duel for calling him a communist.The American Fascist Party,The American Nazi party and The Fasist Party of Italy said they are on the right.So your argument is groundless.
        Encyclopedia Britannical source: Communisn extreme leftwing,The Nazi party and Fascist party extreme rightwing.

        Here are some of the famous right wing Fascist dictators.

        China: Chaing Kai-shek
        Portugal:Dr.Salazar
        Cuba: Batista
        Haiti:Dr,Duvalier

      • rjg

        Dale

        Fascism and Socialism are ideologies on opposites sides of the political spectrum. The U.S. is a ‘Rebublic’ and China is a ‘Republic’ but clearly they do not have similar political systems.

      • Anthony

        Some people say – that Karl Marx was one side of the spectrum, and it was also the side of the spectrum that the Central bank prefers over all others – unless they can simply commit genocide on a glabal scale, and get away with it.

        The “other” side of it is…. Neitzchie-ism… which is essentially FASCISM. This side of politics can and has severed a usual purpose – it is not the end-all, be-all and it’s death will pave the way for Marx-ism as they close the final Chapters for NWO.
        For now, Fascism is being implemented as a one=two punch against “Christianity”.. and that was the real goal for the Rothschild Clan when it created (my opinion) World War II. Remember Yalta? FDR sold half of Europe down the tubes when he gave Stalin Control of Eastern Europe – including East Germany.

        The real prize for the Rothschilds? They were allowed to create the State of ISRAEL, out of nothing… the Clan was allowed by the WWII Conference to steal the Palestinian Lands and made thousands of peaceful human beings homeless… I suggest you go look this up.

        This nonsense that Palestinians have been terrorists for hundreds of years… isn’t exactly the truth – more like recent propaganda by the Central Bank, to foment their need to take over the Middle East.

        Have you done your research on the Rothschild Family?
        Or are you just the latest Ostrich on the block?

      • fastman

        I am so wrong, I thought Nazi was Pelosi’s first name. oops

      • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Bruce D.

        It would be easy to discribe the left agenda as Fascist. Fascism retains private ownership but government regulates private ownership. Seems like the left wants to regulate everything they come into contact with. Also throw in a little socialism as the left makes no bones about their desire to redistribute wealth. Also I agree with the other blogger. To complain about a few spelling errors just makes you look small ‘coal miner’. My guess is you have never been near a coal mine in your life.

      • coal miner

        BruceD (brain donor)

        Retired,43 years in the mines,age 79.Started to work at the tender age of 17.My dad,my two brothers and half brother also were miners.My half brother was killed in Vietnam and dad died of a heart attack.My oldest daughter work part time in the mines,she was working her way through college, majoring in mathematics, besides teaching high school math she also teaches general buisness.If you got any more stupid questions about me not being a miner,let me know.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Bruce,
        no, he’s probably worked(?) in a coal mine but never worked hard!!! He always kissed up to his union boss to get the easy jobs!!!!

    • Robert Wayne

      That’s insane about finding a communist to run the govt. What do you think Obama is??? He’s an out and out avowed communist. And he’s been nothing but a miserable failure to all true Americans. As a matter of fact he’s an enemy to this country.

      • Jana

        Robert,
        Congratulations you said it right.

        These leftists try to make the right seem like Hitler types. They just aren’t smart enough to distinguish the fact that there are major differences. We aren’t these Hitler types.. We aren’t Socialists, or Communists or Marxists, we are right as in correct.
        They have given their own name of liberal such a bad name that now they are trying to put us down to lift themselves up. It just never seems to work for them, the reason is, its a lie.

  • 1minuteman

    the aclu should change their name to unamerican civil liberties union because it seems like everything they stand for is unamerican. they will protect you right to burn our flag, stop prayer in school, take anything christian out of our government buildings etc. i dont think they are a good judge of what our founding fathers had in mind when they drew up our constituion. you will never see alqueda attack the aclu because they are on the same side.

    • JC

      A merican
      C ommunist
      L osers
      U nited

      • http://naver samurai

        How about the Athiest Communist Looney Liberal Union?

      • Mark

        ACLU

        All Criminals Love Us.

      • Jim H.

        ACLU- Anti-Christians for Lucifer Union

      • http://sparkysma@earthlink.net Penny R. Freeman

        Hey I love your definition of the ACLU. They, like the big labor union bosses, are about useless and more of a problem than a blessing. Of course, Jim H. had a good definition for the ACLU too.

      • crystal

        Tee Hee Hee!

      • fastman

        Believe me, it’s not anything to laugh about!

      • coal miner
      • coal miner

        Dale,

        Here is another one.

        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_right · Wikipedia on Bing

      • Jana

        Sorry coal miner we don’t want to go to your anti American sites. And, that is all they are too.

      • fastman

        Kind of like the ACLU ?

    • angel-wanna-be

      1MINUTEMAN, I agree, anything that has Christian attached to it, were the friggin’ so called vagabonds and I for one have had about enough of being pushed around about it. We have the right to freedom of religion, not freedom from religion. The bible did say, that in time, people would view good as evil, and evil as good, it is so visible, a blind man could see it.

      • coal miner

        Dale,

        Read this.

        en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_right

      • Jana

        We don’t need your propaganda for the far right stuff. Actually we are NOT far right like you suggest. WE are in the middle. Most of us have always been in the center, but our politicians, almost all of them, have gone so far to the left (Socialism) that it SEEMS as though we are far right, but it isn’t so.
        You can claim a rose is a weed all day long, but it doesn’t make it so.

      • fastman

        Sounds like you read the same book I do!

    • Beepster

      “senior national counsel for the Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund (MALDEF), who stated that the law is “discriminatory”

      Now, THAT organization is discriminatory. This organization is STRICTLY for Mexicans, hence the name. Same applies to NAACP, Black Caucus, etc. Anyone ever heard of NAAWP? No, and that doesn’t mean I’m in favor of it – or any other race-based organization.

      • Saveournation

        GOD BLESS AMERICA!!! LAND THAT I LOVE. . . . It’s extremely disheartening to see the USA being torn down from within. By the way, does anyone remember the KKK, an organization once supported by (southern)democrats? It’s time to get over the racial division and strife and truly become “. . .one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.” Immigration is immigration and the laws must be enforced for the safety of the citizens. Arizona, you have supporters nationwide, so STAND YOUR GROUND!!!

      • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Bruce D.

        President Obama is the most devisive president I have ever seen or heard of. His goal is to divide and conquer. His campaign for president was for show. It was not his true intention to unite. He is turning Americans against Americans. If left unchecked he will destroy America.

      • jim hensley

        You are 100% correct in what you say Bruce. The imposter in the WH has an agenda to destroy our country.
        WAKE UP AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • June

      Thank you for your comments. You are right on.

  • angel-wanna-be

    Political Correctness, Apology tours,The Mexican president disses Arizona and Jan Brewer for enforcing the illegal immigration on our soil, and our congress gives him a standing ovation in response to it!___I’m appalled and amazed at the the dangerous immaturity, and absolute lunacy, of this administration and they’re followers. If we look closely, the kool aid wagon, I’m sure isn’t far behind, the parade of fools. As Americans, We have to show a passport before going into another country or we are detained or arrested, if we are stopped for traffic violation, we are instructed to show ID and Insurance card or we are detained or arrested, yet the above states it’s unconstitutional to ask for legal immigration papers. They came here to be Americans, THEN LIVE WITHIN OUR RULES, DON’T COME HERE AND MAKE YOUR OWN AND EXPECT US TO COMPLY!!!
    Correct me if I’m wrong, anyone, but if this law in Arizona is truly Unconstitutional, why then, doesn’t the Federal Government step in and stop it? Why they don’t, I believe, is because Jan Brewer is within her right, to enforce this law as a states rights. If the Feds cannot legally stop her from enforcing this law, then by damned, they’re going to make her life miserable over it. What is also concerning, is why the Federal Government has our attention focused on this and other political subjects, what is Washington doing and destroying, who are they siding with and bowing to now ?__
    HOLD YOUR GROUND JAN BREWER, WE’RE BEHIND YOU!

    • Disgusted

      You are so right on the mark!

      • Jimmie

        Hooray for Jan Brewer, I wish Texas would do that. I am very surprised at Perry. One thing I want to know is who is Omar? I would bet (not sure) but is he a Muslim? They want to cause havoc here in the U.S. as they will eventually get their sharia law here and then enforced – then you can kiss our country good bye. I am just so sad for our country – the greatest country in the world and these people (our Muslim President) and his pathetic group wants to change it. Obama said he would change it and he’s trying – people like Gov. Brewer is fighting for us. We should stand behind her….as we are.

      • wilton brown

        i believe arizona has the right to protect it’s state and it’s border.
        if not what is next? do we plan to annex mexico?
        i think it’s great that they have the courage to stand up, for America.

      • http://www.google.com Tom Salmon

        Hi there,
        I think discrimination based on religion is hatred and not justified. Go back about 100 years, this great country has been made so because of all American descending from all ethnicity and religions. Job market is bad now a days because the big companies are going overseas, the CEO, VPs are getting all the money. Moreover, bad people exists in all religions, return back to up to less than 20 years and double check this. We all are humans and we keep doing mistakes, this however doesn’t reflect religions it is personal immoral behaviors. Extremism is always bad what ever the religion is. Think about the war in Iraq and Afghanistan, it costs the USA trillions of $ and more important it took the lives of thousands of innocent people. I thinks mixing politics with religion is very unhealthy.
        take care and understand the soul of religion before you just look from single eye where the other is blind because of hatred,
        Tom

    • Steven Thomas

      Why won’t they fight for our civil rights as Americans? I live in AZ and am for even stricter regulations. I want armed personnel every 30 or so yards. Fire some warning shots from a mini gun or a .50 cal and let’s see how many people want to try to cross the border. If the warning shots don’t stop them, the real shots will. This has essentially turned into a way, this is a war being fought on US soil and we are losing badly. We fight in Afghanistan and Iraq for???? Why not build bases along the border states, fill them with US armed service personnel, have them spend their money here in the US to bolster the economies of where those bases are, and, have them watch the border for us…

      Whey won’t Obama won’t stand up for America, because Obama is not an American, that’s right!!

      • KATHLEEN

        SUPPORT ARIZONA! BO & the LIBS are un-American. Protect US – the LEGAL citizens!

      • angel-wanna-be

        STEVEN THOMAS, GOD LOVE & BLESS YOU FOLKS IN ARIZONA!__I don’t know how you stand it!__We live on the East Coast and the illegals have been an issue here. I could care less if immigrints are here legally, hell we’re ALL immigrints from somewhere. But We need to be Americans first!!! No more pressing 1 for English!___Learn the damn language, do the work and GET LEGAL! Respect our laws and way of life!
        What really helps our cause, is a President who sides with everyone else, BUT US, THE AMERICAN CITIZEN!!__I’m throughly disgusted and ashamed to even admit this guys or President!

      • Jimminety Bop

        Steven has this right. A couple of dead Mexicans hanging on the fence will send a good message. Americans with many more qualifications then those coming across the border illegally cannot find jobs. I hear the argument that they do work that Americans won’t. Sad as it is, many Americans have lowered their standards and will do this work for a decent wage but the Mexicans do it for next to nothing and the ones that use them take more profit on their goods. They wouldn’t make as much if they had to pay higher wages. Jobs at all levels are scarce and these illegal’s are not coming here for the work. They are coming for the free handouts, to have their babies to act as anchors that will bring more and more that really have no interest in becoming Americans. They come to get more free stuff and hold on to their way of life and then expect those that are here legally to accomodate their customs and language.
        Before all of this “politically Correct” crap started common sense was a great part of decisions that were made. President Hoover deprited milolions of illegal’s to open jobs for Americans. President Truman deproted over 2 million illegal’s to open jobs for returning veterans. President Eisenhower even had the “insenseitivity” to call it “OPERATION WETBACK” when he ordered the deportation of 1.3 million illegals. It took two years but it was done.
        Now they tell us they can’t deport 11 to 12 million illegal’s but that they will give them amnesty and to insure that the flow stops they will reinforce the border. They made this promise back in ’86 when they gave amnesty to 8 million but they must have missed an opening that we didn’t know about but that 8 million illegal’s apparently knew very well where it was!

      • Jana

        Jimminety,
        Hmmm, I am against illegal immigration as much as anyone, but killing them UNLESS, it is in self defense is still wrong. That is what they did to our contractors in Iraq, they killed them, burned their bodies and hung them on bridges. NO NO NO. We aren’t like the terrorists.

      • Jana

        PS, the rest of your post is good.

    • Janis

      Very well said!!!!

    • Anthony

      Please – let’s don’t include “immaturity” as a part of the discussion. Because that’s certainly not what’s going on here. All one has to do is compare Mexico’s Illegal Alien Laws and you can immmediately see what the real agenda is.

      Here’s the kicker: In 2005 Bush signed the North American Pact Agreemtn “without” the authorization from Congress. THIS has a lot to do with Obama and the Mexican President behaving as they are towards each other.

      If you read the dirt behind the CFR, the Trilateral and the Bilderberg Group(s)… and even the so-called Conspiracy Nutjob websites, and combine it with what you read about the Rothschild Family History – then this starts to make real sense. You cannot have a World Order (it’s certainly not new) without an ability to combine Nations into Conglomerates – in a Corp-istacracy based Society. You can only stifle competition (which is what John D. Rockefeller got all the other Corporations to do in 1910 – for the obvious greed factor involved) without all Businesses formed into a Conglomerate — comebine all of the information you can find on all of these factors I’ve listed and this is just one part of the puzzle that they have in mind. The Mexican President “thinks” he has a real pplace at the dinner table with this Anglo-American NWO. But, I bet that once he has served his purpose, something will happen to him… just like it did the President of Poland, recently…. or how about Ron Brown under Clinton – anyone wanna gander what he knew and was about to do?

    • Princess

      I agree. All border states should implement Arizona’s new law.

    • fastman

      I believe it’s time to take our country back by force if necessary! Time to revolt and take back what’s ours by birth!

      • Jimbo

        fastman, are you an American indian?

        All, notice how illegal immigration is never a “problem” when the economy is good? Have you considered that “illegal” is an arbitrary term, not only when it refers to assigning people that status, but in general as most “laws” are unconstitutional? Does anyone know that abuse of power by police is the highest in the country in Arizona, specially in Maricopa county? And we want to give them more power … more power to a corrupt “law enforcement” institution … good idea! This is a “Personal Liberty Digest”. It implies to me that they support less government (most of the readers of this blog supposedly do too), and yet it seems that more government is being supported by AZ SB1070. Do you see the trap we are falling into? They pick something that the majority of people seem to support to advance an agenda that they don’t say anything about.

        That aside, the “law” and Jan Brewer can say that racial profiling will not be tolerated, but how else can they “suspect” someone of being “illegal”? The additional power given to police officers will result in even more abuses of power. About 40% of the Arizona population will be target for these abuses at first, then they will discover that they can expand this power over the rest of the population. Increasing government for any excuse is a vicious cycle that will continue to drive our economy into the toilet. So next time you catch yourself saying: “but we need to do something about…” in support of more government, ask yourself: “at what cost? am I giving up any liberties as a consequence?” Oh, and using the old “I already have to…” and “the federal government is not doing …” … it’s a trap!

    • soopermn

      Based on the the law of the land constitutionality must be determined by the U.S. supreme court and must reach them through the chain of appeal courts. The federal govt. cannot act on the law until it reaches that point hence the lawsuit filed by the ACLU. I feel that although the law has the best of intentions it a clear that it also kick s the door open for profiling. We are not a show me your papers country and this will only lead to the illegals moving on and the mexican-american citizens being harassed and persecuted.

  • mw

    Did the author read the law? Apparently not. How about California 834b section of the penal code which says about the same as 1070? Oh that’s not PC??

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