THANKS NORMAN, I AM A VIETNAM VET AND A OATH KEEPER, I THINK WE CAN BE PROUD THAT WE ALL IN THIS BLOG HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK OUR MINDS,I RESPECT THEM ALL, BUT DO NOT HAVE TO AGREE. NEVER TAKE FREEDOM FOR GRANITE, IT IS NOT UNLESS YOU PROTECT IT.

Tom Martel, Norman, and Barry — I am a WWII veteran (Yeah, there a few of us still around) and I believe that I swore the same oath you did. But, if my memory is correct, my oath was not to the United States, but to the CONSTITUTION of the United States, against all enemies, foreign and domestic. The question arises: Where does our duty lie, when we are faced with treason — or, at the very least, sedition — within our own government?

JLC,
My Father in law is a WW2 vet Dark Horse div. and he thinks very much the same as me!! This is nothing less than an invasion!!!

He is a USUPER

ilegal in chief

Harold, I consider Obama to be even worse than a Nazi. He’s an avowed, outright communist. And when you read history and put Hitler and Stalin side by side, Stalin is even more of a pile of fecal waste than Hitler was.

If you think we have done a treason act, talk to the over 70% of citizens of Arizona who back the new law. And if by any chance you live in Az., I gladly invite you to also pack your stuff and I will escort you to the State line on your way to California.

If you will take the time to read to read The Constitution and then compare it to the Arizona Law you will not find much difference. The Arizona Law just enforces what is said in the Constitute that “OUR GOVERNMENT” will not enforce. We have all the “LAWS” we need, we just need “ENFORCEMENT” of them by “OUR GOVERNMENT”! Do not tie the hands of the Law Enforcement Offerers that are only trying to do their jobs, their job is tough enough as it is, give them some help to uphold the Constitute of our “GREAT LAND!” And you might become an “OATH KEEPER” yourself! That is if you want to help save “OUR GREAT COUNTRY”
Korean Vet and
OATH KEEPER

Norman, Great Responce!

AMEN!! ENFORCEMENT NOT REFORM!!

Joe, I am not a racist. I am just sick and tired of the media and my government repositioning the hard working white citizens as horrible, racist people. Seriously, anyone can see that the US gov is working hard to make us all look like hate mongers in order to promote their socialist agenda.

If I had said I am one pissed of Mexican or black woman the message would have been received differently?

Get real buddy – I have the right to be proud of my heritage and you don’t have the right to try and make me feel guilty. People are people. Some good and some not so good.

AZ has the right to protect it’s interests – The Government in WA is broken and they are not protecting it’s citizens.

Put down the kool-aid and read the constitution.

Joe, don’t you think that the illegals are destroying our American way of life? We are supporting them with OUR money, education, social services, etc. Look, if you broke the law, you can bet you will suffer consequences, so it should be with the illegals. They are running from a horrible situation in Mexico but they are affecting our COUNTRY. don’t you get it? or maybe you never got an education in fairness and the difference between right and wrong.

hey joe,do us all a favor,if you can,read the law before you state your knee jerk liberal response.

Why are you on the “White” kick. I have yet to see anyone quoting our governor as being a “White” woman? I have had it with illegal immigrants in my state. Have you seen what they have done to the Sonoran Desert during their illegal entries? It is disgusting; filled with fecal matter, garbage, dirty diapers, etc. FEMA will have to be called in to clean it, yeah right, like they can do anything right.

If you are here illegally, get out! I give you the one strike option, first strike, 5 years in prison, not liberal prisons like we have here in the US, but prisons like those in Malaysia, etc. where you have no rights at all. Then, you get shipped back. If you are caught again, it is instant gratification to put a .45 ACP through your head where you stand and send you home in a body bag!

Illegals are killing this country, so why not return the favor?

Steven Thomas, Oddly enough, two days ago, I recieved a email, with pictures, showing a desert location in Arizona, in a shallow revine, filled with junk diapers as you say, make shift tents, clothing, trash and fecal matter, strewn everywhere. It’s a damn shame.

angel…there’s a couple of houses on my block that harbor illegal aliens. You should see what they do to the properties, it’s just despicable! No maintenance of the yards at all. Junk and trash piled all over, 4 ft tall weeds growing with wild abandon, graffitti on the garage doors, junk cars with no license plates piled up all over the block. They are content to tear down our property values and turn the neighborhood into a barrio.

Steven Thomas…..Not only are they killing this country,they are killing citizens daily.

again joe….now one wants to hear about you liberal ways and again the commie —- junkie was in reference to you

All of the racism I see is coming from left wing communist scumbags like you. If she wants to say that she’s one pissed off white woman that’s her business and not a damn bit of yours. Also it’s these stinking mexicans who are invading this country, not the other way around. If we were invading and destroying their country you empty headed idiotic liberal retards would be yapping about how terrible and racist we are. But now that we’re out to stop them from invading this country you imbeciles are claiming we’re racist for protecting ourselves, our property and our homes. I find you and the others, from Obama on down, who are on the side of these illegal invaders to be utterly and completely despicable.

I hope it does destroy the lives of these illegal aliens. They can go back to their mud hole!

del,
No, that’s called a jacal!

What are you a biggot. There is nothing wrong with being white. Get over it. If we want to call ourselves white we have every right to. If it okay to be a black American there is no reason why anyone has to be ashamed about being a white American. Wake up Joe and stop that leftest mind control crap.

Bruce D…..That’s the problem with Joe and the left. They won’t call themselves AMERICAN. They are always a HYPHENATED-AMERICAN.In their eyes this gives them a special status.

Seems you had trouble thinking yourself amigo. Just as I told a few a others, pack your stuff and go someplace else. ADIOS!!!

Joe, when your losing the battle, you liberals always revert to racism, we know your games, take your Dollies and go home!

Angel,
hope that wasn’t pointed at me. I made a post then everyone goes after “Joe” I just want to make sure everyone notices the H!!

Joe H, Nup wasn’t you, there was another Joe up farther on the post!

libs are real racists they just use crack smokin fools to get votes and screw up the country so they can (fix it)

Well Joe, all I can say is: PACK YOUR BAGS AND CATCH THE NEXT FIGHT TO LAX. THEY MAY FIND A PLACE FOR YOU IN CALIF.
Korean Vet and
Oath Keeper

Amazing how much ignorance is in our country!
Racisim is your only card.
GO KATE!!!

So Joe, I guess we will all now have to profile in order to support legal people looking to make an honest living, pay taxes and live in a country that gives people the opportunity to do things legally. But you consider that being prejudiced. Why do some people prefer Home Depot to Lowes, that’s a preference that we have and hopefully, we don’t lose our rights to do that. So many of our rights are being lost and violated in the name of JUSTICE by our government? Give me a break. This is AMERICA. I’d like to hear back from you when one of your rights become violated, which may be coming sooner than you think.

It’s unfortunate that another law had to be passed to attempt to control an out-of-control situation in Arizona (similar situation in other border states.) The audacity of the lawbreaking illegal immigrants and their demands for free citizenship, free health care, free education, etc., along with their refusal to assimilate into society as other immigrants have historically done has caused people who would ordinarily freely welcome outsiders to feel less welcoming.

We should immediately repeal the 14th amendment, which was needed after the Civil War to ensure former slaves citizenship but is no longer necessary. Without “anchor baby” status, we might slow down some of the illegal migration. There has to be some semblance of law and order in our society. If someone truly wants to immigrate, follow the same channels others have. File your paperwork, pass the exams, learn the language, pledge allegiance to the US (not Mexico) and we will welcome you with open arms. Oh, and by the way, leave your ties to the gangs behind when you come!

Dear dear Kim,

If you read the article by Chip Wood, he says that the 14th ammedment
never was signed or passed that the reason for it was if the southern
states were not part of the United States but being they were never
seperated from the Union, the 14 ammendment never is, was, or legal.
Sooo alll these anchor babies are just that, anchor babies without an anchor..

GOD BLESS AMERICA,,,,,,,,,,,,,GOD BLESS AMERICA

wow talk about hate,why is it you libs have a heart so filled with hate?Why cant you have a conversation or debate with out the vitriol?BECAUSE you want to try to make people feel bad,well maybe its time to change your tactics because the american people are getting tired of your pre-school tactics and verbalage.

Andrew, don’t confuse resistance to a bad idea as hate. Just accept it as resistance it’s going to take deeper thought then seem willing to apply.

case in point;Katey say,”And before you lib kooks ask “How did you know she was not an illegal Mexican?” I will tell you that it was a white woman. I wanted someone who did not look like a Mexican, and a business that probably wouldn’t hire illegals.”

Now I can read “racial hate” as motive into her statement very easily but Katey was attempting to make a point, not feeling she was displaying any bias, a bias I “might” conclude rooted in hate.

Never the less, it stands spoken and is what it is. Her bias was deliberate and intentional as she attempt to support her beliefs.

It’s interesting to note, a bigot is always the last one to know, much like a man with a cheating wife. The reason for this is a blindness to the facts and refusal to accept them when confronted with them. We don’t want to believe, we don’t want to see.

This human behavior is shared by us all, men, women, of all races. However, in this crowd it runs wild, unbridled and considered “healthy and the norm” and anything outside considered a “deviant” of the normal. So we get called names, all kind of names, this built up hate is now directed at us for offering resistance to what we feel as a bad idea. ~ I when thought the same thing with the invasion of IraQ, I thought it a bad idea, a fight I lost and you won. So, I’m use to being the odd man out, called names and personal attacks. But I don’t think I was wrong then and I’m not wrong now.

I fear, people are going to get all worked up, people are going to get hurt, government will spent a lot of money and little long term good comes of it. That’s not necessary. This can be done well.

Arizona and all of the US States has a huge immigration problem. I fail to see how SB1070 in and of itself address the real issue,and more of a half baked, knee jerk response to a serious issue that calls for a serious solution.

But I do think, it’s perhaps a great lay down, opening card for the game that’s to follow. A game where cooler minds and long term vision address the “whole issue” and all parties are represented at the table.

I’m African American and I fully support this law. Seeing what has happened in our schools (I have a son in school) with funding for Science and Math going to English Learner classes. Seeing our schools penalized because illegal immigrant families refuse to have their childrent take the Standardized Test (schools lose money if test are not taken). Seeing parents no longer participating in PTA meetings because the schools have to take an additional hour or more for translating to Spanish speaking parents in between each English phrase, and nobody has time for this. Pressing #1 for English (get real). We need a major crackdown on illegal immigrants and Arizona is paving the way.

YOU MUST BE ONE OF THE MINORITY!

hey you anti american so called white tootie fruity and probably real fruity want to be american, why dont you go to mexico then and lavish your self with all your illegal buddies then. i cant believe you actually side with the liber…….oh i get it , you must be the american hating obama bin laden lover….yeah you are…admit it you communist. i cant believe you dumped on your own people like that. hell i bet you were a draft dodger too. one of them commie fag junkies.

Kate was 110% right. As for scum like you Joe, I advise you to move south of the border since you love illegal wetbacks so much.

If I didn’t know you better I’d have to say that your comment sounds like the words of a white supremacist…

Denniso, Unlike your words, that come from a white inferiorist.

Do you mean what that sounds like? It sounds like you think you’re superior to others,especially nonwhites.

Denniso, If you had a sense of humor, you would have gotten the joke. In the humor dept. I am superior to you. I don’t have to over compensate, by being ashamed of my race, to prove that I don’t believe the others are less than mine.

Not that it matters to you, but illegals from Mexico are causing grief for legal Hispanics (and other minorities) across the U.S. You are aiding and abetting that.

Stop the racist crap. That is getting old and is not going to work anymore. For the left the answer is always “it’s George Bush’s fault” or “your a racist”. We have severe problems and we do not want excuses for failure anymore. We are under attack by millions of Mexicans and we are not going to take it any more. You see what it is like in Warrez and we do not want that here in America.

Then you need to back your stuff and move to California, amigo. I am an Arizonan, and I back Gov. Brewer, and SB 1070

Go Jose GO!

Jose…I’m a kaaleeforneean and I back Gov. Brewer and SB1070.I also back Sheriff Joe Arpaio. If states had -alls,Arizona right now is the only state that has any! Go for it Arizona!

Liberals always point the finger and claim “racism” or “discrimination” when they have no argument; they believe that this ends the discussion because now they hold the “superior” position in the debate. Not so…the facts have yet to be discussed.

Conservative, family-values, die-hard Americans point to facts (not at people) and debate along lines of thought and logical progression…good luck with this (it will be worth your time if you really try to debate with facts not finger-pointing). Remember, anything new is generally taxing on the brain.

A thought to ponder…why do young liberals age and become conservative, but young conservatives who get older NEVER become liberal? Hmmmm….

You’re right, they like to think they take the moral high ground. Problem for them is that they have no morals.

What a crock! You got ya sum morals have ya? Well try displaying them with your words!

People tend to get more conservative with age it’s true. One’s realization of our on mortality come into focus. As the teeth grow weak and vision blurs. As we seem to think we can still jump as high, but fail to stay up in the air as long. We all lose hang time.

As we take stock of what we achieved and how damn hard it was to do. Sharing it most distasteful to contemplate. I get pinch anywhere for 1 to 2 grand a year from various sources, from family,friends, strangers or small investment decisions I made with my heart and not my head. It’s not hard to come up short especially with this “predator” business environment government has allowed and protected over the last 30 years while “Claiming” to be conservative. I guess conservative for “whom” is the real question.

It is this very conservative notions that should encourage us to get this immigration issue “right” for it could well develop into a huge can of worms and left up to your grandchildren to deal with.

Does anyone see something wrong with doing it “well”?

Joe -

I LOVE ARIZONA!! AND I SUPPORT THEIR LAW(S) & JAN BREWER FOR PRESIDENT!!
I went to AZ for a vacation the 1st week in May. I love AZ!! I wish the dummies in Massachusetts would grow some balls here & do what they did in AZ.
This is the United States!! Not the Divided States!! What the hell is wrong with you??

Bob Wire….To you,getting this “immigration issue” right,means one thing; “comprehensive immigration reform”,which to you and every other liberal lefty means,”AMNESTY AND OPEN BORDERS”.I’ll say it to you just like I’ve said it to Teddy McCain,Put it where the son don’t shine! By the way,you’re mind must be going Bob,you forgot to throw in “racist”. Hussien Yo Mama will be pissed Bob!

How about Massachussetts then?

Right on it is time to join with Arizona. Stand up AMERICA

AMEN!!!! I am old, and remember when America was THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!!!! It is so sad to see what we have become. I believe every State should stand behind Arizona. I pray we can take America back before it is too late.

I live in Louisiana, about 25 miles east of the Texas border and I’m hoping both Louisiana and Texas side with Arizona on this. If the federal govt. had not been so lax over the years in dealing with these Mexican criminals, things wouldn’t be to this point. And it’s obvious that Obama is on Mexico’s side and against American citizens on this. As for as I’m concerned the communist ba*tard and all of his friends like Holder, Pelosi and the rest of the America hating libtards need to be deported along with all of the illegal aliens in this country.

I agree also, how can we get a petition to all states for this? I want to know how Arizona did it and then we can start in all the states. illegals take from those who are legal and having babys here is their ticket to freedom and health care etc. There should be a law that if they come here they cannot have any childen until they work at lest a year or more.The hell with the takers now is the time to give to this country that has cleaned them up and gave them a home and education etc.All those who disobey the laws and come here illegal should never ahve another chance period.You needto live in Arizona to see the crime that is happening there and all the people in ajils that are 90 % illegals. Never abuse them but send them home.

You people are being reactionary about this. You want to ignore the fact that racial profiling will happen,despite what the law says,because cops will look for petty infractions involving people who look like mexican immigrants in order to ask for rheir papers.
You also are being swept along in a frenzy by some politicians looking for political gain w/ the issue.
We’re being whipped into a fervor over ‘illegal immigration’ at a time when local police forces are overburdened by serious crime comitted by mostly American citizens, and the vast majority of immigrants are only here to work at low paying jobs and raise their kids.

People repeat continually that the sole issue is the illegality of people being here w/o proper papers….get in your car, drive down the highway and watch all the illegality around you w/ virtually everyone breaking the law by speeding, while putting all of us in danger of more risk on the roads…much more danger than all of the millions of illegals represent to us.

This is more witchhunt than law and it’s very hard not to see some degree of racism in it.

If a cop is racial profiling, he/she is doing it regardless of any legislation or not. Racial profiling doesn’t need a law. What we can do is people who are against Arizona can pay for illegals out of their own purse/wallet and leave the rest of us and our tax dollars for what our tax dollars should be spent on.

Thats right. We have enough crime to deal with. We don’t need to add Mexicos.
FYI, most crime in AZ are committed by Illegals and their associates. I hear it each and every day.

Denniso, I guess because SOME drivers speed, we should just IGNORE every other law too. LAME.

When I am pulled over I am required to provide id and proof of insurance. If they find I am lacking or a warrant or what ever I would be fined or taken to jail. I see no difference in what Arizona is doing than Seattle area police. In fact I would say the King county sheriffs department couldn’t pass the test of serving the general public. Washington is boycotting Arizona because the politicians are stupid. The general public doesn’t seem to care but they will. It is comming to a boil.

Denniso, I challenge you to get in YOUR car or fly to Arizona, CA, NM or TX and stroll the deserts, go to the border towns of Tuscon, Nogales, Sonora, Calexico, El Paso, Carlsbad…whichever border town you check out, also check out the schools and the hospitals and even the degradation of the cities then give me your assessment of what illegals are doing to this country – don’t just drive down the freeway…let along dividing us….plus as you stated…we have our own citizens to contend with we don’t need to support the other 26% of illegals that are criminals in our prisons!

You do a great job of using words and figures that lie to make your point of truth .

The truth is
1 When the illigal Mexican comes across our border and breaks a law,
In general the law is either ignored or the law goes away . what is
left is what you use to make your point on!
2 in the passed 60 years (about the same time of our present illegal
alien problem) California has gone from the worlds 5th largest
economy to a bankrupt STATE.
3 California’s prisons are loaded with illegal iliens
yet the damage done to the privet section of the FREE society goes
unrecored.
4 Californias GOVERNOR makes a public statement—-”The illegal alien
has little or no effect on the STATE BUDGET DEFICT”.

That’s right —the ILLEGAL ALIEN is “NOT” the PROBLEM—-

——-The problem is MONITORING OUR LEADERS ——

I say profile away. If 99.99999% of the illegal people in my state are from Mexico, guess what, ask them all for identification. It is a federal law that you must carry documentation with you at all times!

If there is news that there is a blond haired blue eyed guy carrying a bomb and is threatening to blow up a building, don’t you think the police should stop every person fitting that description to see if they have the right person?

I would love the see the educational backgrounds and intelligence tests on the people that are screaming bloody murder about AZ’s laws. My guess is they are uneducated and lack any sort of intellect. They should be pissed because it is the illegal immigrants that are taking their jobs! Wake up and see what is going on, higher crime rates, less jobs, money leaving the country, funds not being spent on groups that truly need them to subsidize illegals, the list goes on.

The people that are against it should go to Mexico and help them with their economy and to keep them in Mexico. If you want to come here, do it the proper way!

dennisoso it ok to pick the law you want to and ignore other is that why phoenix is #1 or #2 in murders i try to obay all laws and if you are here illegally and most 98% are not white so if you are looking for an illegal there is a good chance he is black or brown just a little fact, i an white and have been stopped in a lot of states not becauce i was speeding or breaking the law, but because most states have dui check points or auto check points the first thing they want is id and if i as an american citizen can not or do not produce it i will not drive off they will impound my vehicle and i can go to jail if you are driving with out id it is called dws[driveing when stuped] if you don,t like are law go to mexico and pull your racist profiling sh–, see were it getts you, in jail or dead so go bow to calderon in his failed state we don,t need you ,here we sometimes deport in mexico they sometime kill

TO DENNISO,YOU SAID IT ALL,THERE ARE PEOPLE SPEEDING IN THEIR CARS THAT COULD KILL PEOPLE,BUT THINK ABOUT IT,WHEN CAUGHT THEY ARE FINED OR ARRESTED,THEY DONT GIVE YOU A PRIZE OF BEING IMMUNE TO THE LAWS OF THE STATE YOUR DRIVING IN,BUT NO YOU ARE TELLING EVERYONE ,OH NO THATS RACIAL PROFILING,HOW ABOUT WHEN THOSE VERY ILLEAGALS DRIVE THEIR VECHICLES AND KILL SOMEONES FAMILY MEMEBER OR SHOOT THEM? PERSONALLY PLEASE JUST USE YOUR LOGIC,THEY ARE LAWBREAKERS THAT HAVE SPIT ON THE LAWS OF THIS NATION.I AM FOR LEAGAL IMMIGRATION WHERE THEY CAN REVEIW EACH CASE IN DETAIL,SO NOT TO LET THE MURDERS AND CRIMINALS IN FREELY AS WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON TO LONG,JUST LOOK AT THE FACTS NATIONWIDE,LATIN STREET GANGS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY,AND NOONE KNOWS WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE,I AM FED UP WITH THESE HYPE FROM THE LIBERAL BUNCH RUNNING THIS SIDESHOW,AND IF THE MORONS RUNNING CALIF.WANT A WAR SO BE IT.LET THEM HEAT THEIR HOMES BY BURNING THEIR HOMES TO THE GROUND FOR HEAT,THEM LET THE ILLEAGALS DO AS THEY WISH,THE END RESULT IS ANOTHER MEXICAN WAR ,WITH THE CRIMINALS IN CHARGE OF L.A. INSTEAD OF THE LIBERAL LEFT THAT IS ADVOCATING TREASON.BY NOT ENFORCING THE( UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION) PROTECTING THIS NATION FROM INVADERS OF OUR BORDERS AND ENEMYS FROM WITHIN AND LAWBREAKERS ARE NOONES FRIENDS.NOT EVEN YOURS DENNISO ,SO LIVE WITH IT.

denniso i have been stopped for walking down the sidewalk and ask for something that 99% of all american have it is called id stuped and if you have no crimnal charges you show they look you walk only reason you or anyone would not support this is you are doing something wrong

Hey there denniso- if you think this is just political, why not take a trip to the Arizona border and camp out a few nights! I’m betting you’d be singing a different tune once the inconvenient facts hit you in the face! Funny how facts seem to replace fancy in the real world.

Excuse me, but “Mexican” is not a race. Genetically, Mexicans are a mix of Indian and White. Well, so am I. So are a lot of perfectly legal Americans. For that matter, the population of Arizona is 40% mixed-White-and-Indian, and another 20% pure-blooded Indian (which makes Whites a minority). That goes for our police forces, too. So, just how are Indian and part-Indian police supposed to do “racial profiling” against other part-Indian people?

–Leslie Fish < )O(

Dumniso….when you are speeding you are temporarily breaking a law. I don’t think an officer can visit your home the next day and give you a ticket. But illegal aliens by virtue of staying here are continously breaking the law. Even though I almost lost my breakfast, I watched Calderon’s speech (with that ugly witch in the background hopping up and down). How come he didn’t make any reference to Mexico’s immigration law? Such as carrying your papers at all times, 10 years in prison for returning after a deportation, showing proof of not being a financial burdon to the citizens, can only buy property if you don’t upset the “demographic balance”. Then Obummer states that “we are not a nation defined by its boundaries”. What hypocracy from the liberal lunatics!

Racial Profiling is done by Obama & staff 24/7.

What about the incident in Arkansas yesterday? It was stated
that the ones that killed one Officer and shot another were illegal aliens. I am so sick of all this BS.
Furthermore, I despise that the Pres. of Mexico had the gall to come on
American soil and chastize American citizens. He apparently doesn’t like Arizona’s law! (I think it’s too lax) Let’s just adopt Mexico’s on immigration law and be done with it.
What really p@ssed me off was Obama standing there and letting that arrogant, Mexican pos rant and rail against Americans.
IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!

It sounds like you are saying police should ignore petty infractions if they look like they might be illegal aliens. Now illegals should be exempt from the law. It is a silly argument to ignore petty fractions with the goal of ignoring illegal aliens. I am told in California as much as 25% of the prisions are illegals. It is time you wake up Denniso. America is being over run by millions of illegal aliens and we are losing control of law and order in the border states.

Denniso….how can you miss the point for one did you really read the law…or are you reling on what you hear from the pres on down to the a.g. yes there are laws being broken and people are paying price for it ….so if you have broke the law by entering this country illegaly then you deserve to pay the price and away you go back to square one.. if you are only restating the above mentioned persons than you are part of the problem….illegal is still illegal no matter what color your skin is if you are here that way then tough..besides the police ice and boarder guards are always looking for illegal drug dealers and smugglers….besides the ones who pay the smugglers are really stupid to pay anywhere from $2500 and up to someone to bring you here that way…they should use the money more wisely and take care of themselves and go against the drug cartels….but then again you dont care you just want to rant and rave like rules for radicals call for……well God Bless and God Bless America.. and God Bless Arizona and any state that stands up to enforce the laws…..

Too bad about racial profiling. I get racially profiled all the time. All the chicanos look at me cause I’m a middle aged white man and assume I am wealthy. If racial profiling bothers you go back to meh-ico where you can get killed by drug runners. what are the police supposed to do, hunt down illegal Norwiegans? If you arent legal then get the hell out. cry me a river—-Spakata.

Then maybe all laws should be revoked and MAYBE WE SHOULD GET OUR SIX GUNS BACK OUT, you can not stop racial profiling, and have laws to protect our borders without some kind of profiling. Who is targeted? the illegals coming from Mexico. WHAT ARE THEY? How can you round them up without profiling? Soon there will not be any reason for borders, when your Prez. and the reat of the goons in DC get through it will be one world one money and one religon, So have it your way and quit calling names and belittling each other, soon you want have a decent country to live in unless you can come together and agree on what to do about important issues, quit blame games and realize that the past is the past, and to bad, you can’t change it, but if AMERICANS GET TOGETHER THEY CAN WORK OUT THESE PROBLEMS, but it will be concessions on both sides,

Mr. Deniso, read the law before opening mouth and state something you have no idea what is happening in Arizona. The problem with most of comments made about Az. are made by people that have no idea or do not want to understand that we under siege from South of the Border. The immigration laws in Mexico, would curl your toes if you read them ALL. So quit bashing the Az citizens doing what we feel is the right thing to do because the Federal Government has failed to enforce the existing laws, and closing the border to stem the continuous flow of illegal immigrants from Mexico. By the way lots of Canadian’s get deported back to Canada because they have either worked without proper visa, remained in the US with an expired visitors visa. Many other residents of other countries fall under the same category. So amigo, get your ducks in a row before you start condeming the Arizona residents, all 70% of us who approve SB1070.

Well, Mr. Denniso, I think that you have a very narrow view of the situation. The Arizona law is simply an attempt to enforce a current Federal law; it is not new. It is not only the Mexican felons who enter illegally, there are many felon OTMs (Other Than Mexicans) who are entering illegally through this portal, and a great many of the OTMs have a definite intent to do this country harm. I have observed that most of the people who cry “racist” the loudest and most often are the most racist of all, and usually have something to gain by it. All states should follow the Arizona example. Any U.S. Citizen worthy of being called a U.S. Citizen should not have a problem with showing his/her ID with pride. Nearly all, if not all, U.S. Citizens carry a Drivers License or State issued ID, and Federal law requires all LEGAL immigrants carry their ID with them at all times. The police have a great deal more to do than pester locals that are not doing something suspicious. If profiling bothers people, the police should just randomly check everyone’s ID. As far as cutting off L.A. power, I feel it is quite appropriate; if L.A. is going to boycott Arizona it should include all products including electricity. Wake Up, America!

Well denniso,

you show that you really did graduate from 3rd grade..
you sound smart but talk dump……

I’ve been on the border. I don’t advocate that people break the law to come here illegally. What you all are missing is that the problem is blown out of all proportion to the real risk of crime from illegals. My example of driving as a greater risk to our lives was used to illustrate that cops have to prioritize what they enforce,and theoretically they should go after the greater threats to society. If speeding and reckless driving are a greater threat to everyone on the road then why aren’t you people outraged that the police don’t slow speeders down and save more lives?
That’s my point…you’re going after a group of people who mostly don’t harm anyone…most crime is comitted by american citizens and there are very few citizens who are victims of violent crime by illegals.
So the outrage and anger and hatred directed toward illegals is way out of proportion to the problem caused by them…that’s all I’m trying to get you to see…

Denniso, it’s the city government of LA, as well as any other external entitiy that decides to boycott Arizona, which is “being reactionary about this”…NOT the people on this forum! LA needs to keep its nose out of the business of other states! I should think that the state of California has enough problems of its own (especially financial) for LA to be concerned about, without getting involved in the affairs of Arizona. Shame on LA!

Secondly, you raised the issue about “…the vast majority of immigrants [that] are only here to work at low paying jobs and raise their kids.” My question to YOU is what about those who are here LEGALLY, who are unemployed and looking for jobs, so that they have money to raise their kids??? Whether low-paying or high-paying, those jobs are being taken by ILLEGALS!

Please consider that when I go to the doctor I must show proper ID and health insurance card; that’s the policy supported by the law that I must adhere to. Is that fair? Why can’t I sneek past the doctor and get some medicine? People in the hallway would stop me if I didn’t belong and I would be arrested and sent “home” for not following the law. How is this any different? I can see the doctor, just have to get all the documents, ID, and proofs that I am in the office correctly. I don’t speak “doctor” but I have to tell them in some basic term what is needed or what is wrong. I don’t feel violated against for having to do that. Is that racial profiling in the doctor’s office? There is scripture for this – I Peter 2:15-17 “…Fear God. Honor the King.”

Deniso,

One simple question. If you do not want anyone to prove they are here legally, then do you not remove ANY AND All methods for finding out if someone is here ILLEGALLY, which is a crime?

What gives you or the far left the right to pick and choose the laws to be enforced?

What about the 2005 UNANIMOUS decision by the supreme court giving all federal law enforcement officials to demand proof of citiczenship without any reason whatsoever?

Also, I am sick and tired of the argument the illegals are only doing the jobs Americans wont. They are in direct competition to my job and driving down my wages.

Let L.A. protest in the dark!!!!!

Oh, BOO HOO–
If you’re not involved in illegal activity or an illegal alien you have nothinto worry about!!!

denniso,

What country do you come from?

None of your business what country I come from…it doesn’t matter.

Denniso & Maruca, ……I agree with you both ! Why doesn’t everyone see one of the real reasons our U.S. is down,….is it because of this war ? etc, etc, etc,…… When the Towers were hit, they called them Mexican Terrorists….when there is a latin looking face…..they blame Mexicans ! When there is a crime …..they blame Mexican, when the economy goes down,…. they blame Mexicans. Have they blamed the stock drops on Mexicans yet? Exactly where is the blame for our many, many different disasters…..come on, lets stay focused “quit blaming Mexicans”. Lets focus on our many more serious problems that need attention. Also, like Maruca said: there are other Latin races, or is it convenient to just pretend and just accuse a “Mexican”? And when you mention crimes, how about the other 5000 crimes that are not related to Latins, why aren’t they mentioned here ? Maybe people are just angry because of this terrible economy and are dying to point the finger wherever it sticks so they can release some of their frustrations. Like whipping your child because you had a quarrel with your spouse…..shame on you ! Lets focus on the real issues and quit lashing out at whatever hate gossip that comes along. What about the incident where the 20 Immigration offices beat one immigrant to death and another Immigration officer killed a 14 year old boy while this boy was in his own country? I don’t see you talking about these incidents. I bet most of you out there were also immigrants, and now you talk and pretend like you all have blonde hair and blue eyes. All the Latin people I know are mostly hardworking people and just want to feed their families. Cut the racial profiling and just admit that you LOVE getting your jobs done cheap or free. I hear of many of these immigrants getting robbed or killed just by walking on the streets. And when it comes to working, they are not always paid for their hard labor, but I don’t hear you talking about that either! They are used and abused with long grueling hours of labor and heavy work that no one wants to do. So next time you want any work done that is too heavy for you to do…..try doing it yourself….believe me, you will wish you had just one of these hard working immigrants there to pay cheap to & to do that hard work for you! And as Maruca said: you can’t just say (Mexican) because there are other immigrants from Salvador, Guatemala, Panama, Nicaragua, Equador, China, Russia, Koreans, Bolivia, Peru …the list goes on and on. Don’t show your ignorance when it comes to where an immigrant can come from…..Maybe if you look down from your high horses and tell yourself, “this nation was made up of mostly immigrants”….and also ask yourselves “were you or your ancestors also immigrants” ? Be honest and unblind yourself & stop the finger pointing! We are all so involved in finger pointing these days at Latins, that we have all lost what should be our “REAL FOCUS”. I also agree with Denniso, that this AZ law is more of a “Witch Hunt” than law and it has quite a degree of “Racism” in it. I remember this similarity with the “Blacks” way back when…….how many races do we crucify before our “Racism” is realized ?

I am american and I have to show who I am when stopped by police! I have to identify myself just to write a check! Why would mexican or etc. be any different! Why would you reward criminals for breaking the law? Goodness where we would be in life without laws. It would be nice to find the “large employers” for our own people who have lost their jobs. Do you think you could go to mexico and not show papers as to who you are and where you came from? You are right about being used as a political weapon!

that crack will rot youre brain.

i could be wrong but i could have swore that there is no such thing as anchor babies. if there isnt there sure needs to be. to be legal you have to be legal. and one big HOOORAAAY for arizona

On some issues I am conservative and others I tend to have a more progressive outlook, but when it comes to illegal aliens… illegal is illegal is illegal. What is not to understand?

I saw an interview with a young woman from Mexico who was completing her college degree. It turned out that she was illegally in the country and authorities were trying to deport her. Her family came here without invitation, had their kids educated in our schools at our expense, got free medical care through the welfare system and a free ride in college.

She believed that she “was just pursuing the dream” and should be allowed to stay. She genuinely felt that there was nothing wrong with coming here illegally, milking the system, and getting HER dream at the expense of others. On most levels, she seemed like a nice young woman.. but illegal is illegal is illegal. She got caught… time to go home. I she wants to be here… get on line like the honest people.

Hugh,

I usually agree with the people on the left and the moderate right.I don’t believe illegal aliens are entitled to a free education.I had to pay for my children’s and granddaughter’s schooling.Let their parent countries pay for their’s.I don’t know about racial profiling,that is another matter.

It is my understanding that we are the only country in the world that makes a child born in this country and makes it a citizen. Why? The U.S.A. is the greatest country in the world, everyone wants to come here. Someone needs to tell Obama that. I live about 3 miles from the Mexican border. Mexico has some of the worst laws in the world. If youa re caught in Mexico without a passport or papers, you are put in a Mexican jail for 2 years. Mexican laws are draconian. As for racial profiling – that’s a joke. You can’t help it. If I had robbed a bank they would be looking at all the fat old ladies, why look at a skinny young male? I’m not particularly bright but we have some of the stupidest people in the world in office and Washington. I weep for my country.

WE are being run by a bunch of morons in Washington
600 14 year old children could do a better job.
John Crum aka old man crum

Ron I agree with you. Granted, supposedly they can’t do that because then they would be breaking the law themselves but!! What if Arizona and other border states were to seceed from the U.S.? Then they wouldn’t be subject to “ANY” of the laws handed down by D.C. and they would be free to deal with illegal immigration as they see fit. Of course California would never seceed only because the progressive base in that state has become too dependent on all the “free” handouts and government sustenance programs they currently receive. Arizona has demonstrated that it has a backbone whereas California has proven they are wimps and have no backbone. I say “put California in the dark”.

As a Californian, I am disappointed in our state’s gutless reaction to this problem. When I see crowds of demonstrators carrying Mexican flags demanding open borders for their relatives, I wonder if they would be out in the streets if the “immigrants” were from elsewhere.

This is a s much a cultural invasion as an ethnic invasion. They want to retake “occupied Mexico”.

Visit a public park in LA primarily use by those from south of the border. If you can find a square yard on the ground without litter you are lucky… while empty trash receptacles stand nearby.

the park thing is the same here in the north east, there are as many illigals in my city as was the population here in the 70s

Is there any way we can cut off our LA-bound water, too?

–Leslie Fish < )O(

I agree with you Ron. I say Arizona should go ahead and do it. California always acts so mighty and superior. It is an attitude there, even while the state is broke, the people are mean and unfriendly, the crime is unreal, etc. Arizona is doing the right,
decent, moral and legal thing to protect its people. By far that is
more than California has ever done. California is going down so
quickly and they continue to boast. I am in transition at the moment, think I will move the Arizona.

No. Rhode Island has just sent a bill up that mirrors Arizona’s new legislation. Orange County, CA this week is backing Arizona and has stated they would observe all immigration laws.

Great observation.