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Republicans Ask For Citizens' Opinions On Spending Programs

May 20, 2010 by  

Republicans ask for citizens' opinions on spending programsIn an effort to connect with conservative activists and help curb Federal spending, House Republicans announced last week the creation of a new project designed to allow citizens to vote on what they think should be cut from the Federal budget.

The new initiative, called YouCut, will enable voters to choose from one of five possible cuts each week. The winning suggestion will be brought to the floor the following week and will be voted on by members of the House.

"What we’re saying here is we’re going to listen," House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (R-Va.) told Fox News. "Vote on your priority, and we’ll take it to an up-or-down vote on the floor."

Meanwhile, Democrats are calling the program a simple public relations gimmick that has no realistic chance of trimming the Federal budget.

"It’s not surprising that they are resorting to another gimmick for a round of press rather than a substantive idea for lasting solutions," said Hari Sevugan, the Democratic National Committee’s press secretary. "But if they actually listened to the American people, Republicans would know that knee-jerk opposition, obstruction, delay and gimmicks are not a substitute for leadership."

In response to the program, the Democrats created their own project called GOPSpent, where Americans can vote on the most irresponsible Republican initiatives that favor special interest groups.

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  • william ahrens

    drotterman makes some good points and he’s correct about our military spending. Its the military industrial complex Ike warned us about but its only part of the problem. I’m an isolationist for the most part. I want to look out for our own first. We’ll never bring the entire world out of poverty. Mexico is even more corrupt than we are and qualfy for 2nd world stitus when they could be first world. The gulf between the haves and have nots is great, which is why so many come here for a better life. Why they proudly fly the flag of their POS country in mine escapes me. If Mexico is so great why did they come here? Nigeria is an example of a country struggling with poverty because of rampent corruption. Corruption bleeds the money off and keeps the people poor and ignorant. We are headed that way ourselves. Its going to take a while because our economy is so gigantic but its shrinking like sand through an hourglass. Its not mean spirited to be patrotic and strive for greatness and equity in your country and look out for your own first. Its OK to give your needy neighbor a hand but not at the expense of your own to the degree you become poor also. Illegal immigration has become a catalist, which has awakened a sleeping giant and the corrupt politicians have begun to pucker.
    We’re supposed to be a government of the people and for the people but that’s been corrupted by the many Abramoff’s in the halls of the legislature.

  • Bob Wire

    I think the GOP may finally be on to something having considerable merit and worthy true consideration. It’s about time of GOP leadership to pull a rabbit out of the hat and be a part of the solution.

    However, as we see by the leading “post” they are not going to like what they hear.

    To some degree, I think we all carry some over simplified views about “what’s the problem and what will be an “solution”

    I see years, of spending in the wrong places, and little equity to no equity acquired for or by the bulk of “American’s”.

    The nation is subject to the same effects of over spending and misspending as “the family budget” , a time will come and a price paid for this “irresponsible spending”

    However, it differs only in “refusing to spend” is not a correction.

    If it wasn’t for the stimulus spending, this priming of the pump, to kick start the private sector again, we’d all be up the proverbial $hit Creek without a paddle today.

    These is too much, Swallowing of Camels and gagging on Nats, on matters of spending on many people’s part to suit me.

    However , out of every 100 ideas offered, there should be a few worth serious consideration.

    I hope this servers the GOP and the American people, For the GOP leadership has been disconnected for the American people far too long while pandering to special interest and Wall Street friends, becoming A party of exclusion and privilege.

  • Bob Wire

    I think the GOP may finally be on to something having considerable merit and worthy true consideration. It’s about time of Gop leadership to pull a rabbit out of the hat and be a part of the solution.

    However, as we see by the leading “post” they are not going to like what they hear.

    To some degree, I think we all carry some over simplified views about “what’s the problem and what will be an “solution”

    I see years, of spending in the wrong places, and little equity to no equity acquired for or by the bulk of “American’s”.

    The nation is subject to the same effects of over spending and misspending as “the family budget” , a time will come and a price paid for this “irresponsible spending”

    However, it differs only in “refusing to spend” is not a correction.

    If it wasn’t for the stimulus, this priming of the pump, to kick start the private sector again, we’d all be up the preverial

    • Donald L. Cochrane

      Delseydo says “Bob, I would like to know what the so called stimulous bill has done that is even a pimple on it’s cost.”

  • Caroline benedum

    1. Cut out the US Dept. of Education. States make own decisions regarding education. Too much duplication.
    2. Cut U.S. Department of Humane Society (this is not your local humane society) who are trying to regulate farmers so much to the point of forcing them out of the industry. Check out Food, Inc.
    3. Cut Mrs. O’s staff down to 3 instead of 20 something.
    4. Repeal Healthcare bill.
    5. Stop sending money to countries that don’t support us.
    6. Cut Planned Parenthood funding.
    7. No salary increases for politicians and other governmental employees. Pay cuts should be the norm.
    8. Stop sending jobs overseas. The unions have lost their usefulness. No more unions.
    9. Pull troops out of countries not affected by war.
    10. Stop spending billions of dollars on rebuilding other countries. We need to rebuild our own.
    11. Close our borders for a while and stop enabling illegals from getting American services for free.

    We’re broke and we’ve got to get off this crazy train.

    • dlshelton

      Now this is a good start, but it will never happen. You might hurt someone. And someone might lose their cushy chair.

    • Donald L. Cochrane

      Delseydo says, “That’s a start Caroline. Let’s drop the Dep’t. of Carter Energy, created to get us off of middle East oil, now about 12000 employees and no change in our energy situation. Drop the Dep’t. of Commerce, can’t hardly get more useless. I have a list of about 500 government functions that have no worthwhile benefit and should be cut. Besides if one observes closely it will become obvious that most federal operations WASTE roughly 50% of their funds. The only good from that is that much of it at least goes to AMERICANS. Any federal function that gets started quickly becomes an empire building organization with no one to stop it, witness the Dept. of Energy.” I have heard that certain politicians (maybe all?) say there is no way to balance the budget!!!

  • http://none drotterman

    What a mean spirited bunch we have here. Is there any compassion among you, or has that gone down the tubes with our rights. All this venomous bickering about welfare spending and aliens eating us out of house and home and legislators giving themselves raises and deficits are just what our politicians love for us to be doing. That way we don’t pay attention to the billions given out in corporate welfare, and farm welfare. And what do the big Corporations do with this money? Keep it in offshore accounts, pay little or no taxes, and invest it in foreign countries. Seams like we could save some money by making some changes to these policies.

    Not one person mentioned the fact that we spend half of our budget on the military. HALF! We have bases in 177 countries. We spend as much on the military budget as the rest of the world put together. Is this the country we want? We could cut that budget in half and funnel the money into a sustainable infrastructure, creating jobs in this country, and energy security for the future, and we would still be the most powerful country on earth.

    Wake up people. Have a little love and compassion for those that have less than us, and quit listening to the those mean spirited talking heads at Fox. We are the greatest country on earth, and we have a responsibility to help bring the world out of poverty. While we sit bitching in our air conditioned houses and cars, 3 billion people live on a buck a day. We have to do something to help. They are, after all, fellow Human Beings.

    • sirian

      drotterman,

      I see what you’re saying and here and there I agree. But you have left something out that you really should be aware of. It’s called “FOREIGN AIDE”. Now then, go look that up and see just how much the U.S. slings out yearly to the poor “one dollar a day” people, worldwide. Compassion? You want us to be more compassionate? For God’s sake, just how much was recently directed, still is, to Haiti after their earthquake? Let alone who knows how many other areas across the globe. How much does China help out? How much does Russia help out? How much does France help out? Get a grip kid, we have been the most COMPASSIONATE country in the world and it isn’t forced upon us. How many countries stepped right in to help out all the poor people in New Orleans after Katrina? Huh, how many? Look back over many major catastrophes and which country has been the one that “gives” more help than any other?

      I will agree with you that we could cut back on the number of bases we have around the world but if you cut back on our “VOLUNTARY” military, which has already been done considerably, not “CONSCRIPTED/DRAFTED” military, well, OK, you best make sure you know how to squeeze a trigger. That’s one right you should be very thankful for.

      When are you going to realize that there are so many different governmental departments that could be totally eliminated and that alone would save billions each year. Even more so, it wouldn’t actually have any major life threatening effect on anyone.

      Sorry, it may not hurt for you to read an original of our Constitution just once, not an MSNBC version, you’ll learn a great deal! I promise, it won’t give you a migraine.

      • Donald L. Cochrane

        Delseydo says, “Way to go Sirian!!!!” Want to cut something? How about the Useless Nations (UN) Take those 25 plus billions and repay the Social Security Fund for the money you stole. Maybe give Medicare a little help. These are for AMERICANS!! “Hey, Millionaire Congressman–any idea who those people are?” “If you don’t I think you are about to get educated.”

    • s c

      d r, why act like a RINO or a closet progressive? You’ve included mean-spirited, compassion, welfare spending, corporate welfare, sustainable, Fox and “bring the world out of poverty.” If the RNC sent you, take a hike. If you’re a closet progressive, you know what you can do.
      Rather than cover the full list, I’ll go over the “low” points. Mean-spirited? You’ve been properly programmed, comrade. Corporate welfare, your White House god is in BED with corporations – as long as Uncle Scam gets his cut (and his ‘friends’ are protected). Sustainable. You’be probably never grown your own food, and you see Sierra Club wackos as icons. I don’t get Fox News on my TV, but I’ll wager that Fox has more integrity and a working sense of journalistic ethics than any lamestream, WHORE media group you can name.
      How the royal hell can we bring ANYONE out of poverty when this gang of thugs is doing its worst to bankrupt and enslave America? Did you wake up bored? Either you’re limp enough to be manipulated by the RNC and/or progressives, or you’re being paid to take up space on this website. Whatever the answer is, your mixed messages are enough to put you on the short list for the next information czar (after he learns the hard way how worthless he and his ‘boss’ are in the eyes of the American people).
      No cookie. No gold star. And you’ve failed to convert anyone to hope or change, mack.

  • Jayne Texas

    The LIBERALS live on Fantasy Island. They think we live in a perfect world; they will never come to reality. That is why we must get them OUT of government. A fantacy is easy; but reality is hard. Democrats mascott is a donkey aka ASS. LIBERALS are big donkeys. Liberal can’t connect with the American people; because that would mean they are admitting they COULD BE WRONG! That is a NO NO for them. Imagine the American people could have better ideas than theirs. They won’t do it. We’re a bunch of DUMBIES in their eyes.

  • http://ajb221@cox.net AJB OKIE

    it all started with carter and the cubans now is the time to have a sweeping immigration reform bill, send all the cubans, mexicans. haitatins home and see how many can come in like their suppose to. But with obama and his cronnies he brought from chicago there will be no change because he needs the votes and they will buy all they need, just the the election that put him in office. I say impeach him and send him and his family back to Kenya were they belong.

  • Marilyn

    I don’t care if you are Republican or Democrat -whatever. Eliminating Over- Spending starts at the top. There are about 545+ politicians who have made the laws of our land and introduced programs that cost the American tax payer dear dollars. Now that Americans are in a financial mess, failed programs, the Constitution not followed, the working Americans are expected to bail-out these 545+ elected politicians. True, American politicians/officials were voted into office by the public sector. But, voting Americans can also vote these rascals out of office – American voter’s rights. If spending needs to be brought under control, let us start at the top. The first step is to get rid of all the assistants who assist other assistants and those who assist non-elected families of the officials. The next step would be to have each elected official pay their own non-job related transportation. The next step might be to stop robbing Peter to pay Paul. Keep hands off the Social Security funds. I am not sure how Congress received pay raises during this financial crisis but I can just about figure that some worth-while program was tapped for those dollars, leaving that program at risk.
    There is more on my mind but this would be a start.

  • william ahrens

    The Republicans are pandering and cannot be serious. Cutting the Federal budget is their job and a problem they helped to create the previous 8 years. Its a stunt in an attempt to convince us they’re listening. BS! They feed us the equine scat (horse crap) and do what the lobbyists tell them to do because that’s where the money is. They’re all corrupted by the system so the system has to change. No more career politicians! Don’t elect them, draft them for 4 years, guarantee their job when they return to their State, the government subsidizes their temporary replacement and his or her training, which promotes skills and they return after their commitment. The military draft worked much like this and resulted in a healthy crossection of America in the military. A true citizen army. Obviously a background check would have to be made and a reasonable level of education would be required. Its not perfect but a hell of allot better than the career crooks we have now. Those who would oppose this would tell you that the career bureaucrats would then dominate, that is professional staff to assist the politician. But that shouldn’t be the case to any serious degree. Another criticism would be lack of seniority, which affects the ability to bring home the pork. But pork is part of the problem. We need a government that represents the needs of the people not lobbiests who pay for influence to satisfy wealthy individuals and corporations, which is the reason we don’t have equity in taxation for example. Warren Buffet pays 17% tax. He’s a billionare. I know people who pay 30% and make $175,000. Something is very wrong here. Wake up people. They’re screwing us and smiling while they do it.

  • sirian

    As to why sheeple are just now beginning to realize the problem that exists in Washington and a sizable portion of states capitals too, will always puzzle me. Hasn’t anyone ever looked at their paycheck to see how much is withheld for taxes? Could it be that everyone, or a majority as viewed, are just now pulling out the old “Common Sense” files from their minds? I agree, NO, the politicians do not deserve all the perks they bestow upon themselves or allow to quietly accept from who knows how many “Special Interest Groups” or “Lobbyists”. The illegal immigration problem could be easily solved – 500′ before or after the border fence lay a mine field – non-lethal concussion mines only – with “Mine Field” signs posted every fifty feet. Install ground vibration sensors to detect tunneling. Man the border with military personnel – National Guard/Reserves – on a rotational basis. Finally, strongly enforce the laws pertaining to employment of illegals. All of this could be accomplished in no less than three months. A simple “Common Sense” answer to the problem, yes. Would any of the politicians that we have placed in Washington agree with this approach – NO. It would be costing them to many votes. So, as expected, solving the problem with the politicians, not quite as easy. The majority of them have committed electoral suicide anyway since they voted through the ObamaCare package without ever reading it. Remember, what they say and what they do are two totally different things. And this commonly applies to anything that comes across their desk. I merely hope the size of the herd of sheeple is being downsized – considerably!!

  • duggy dugg

    green card or work permit all illegals here now that aren’t guilty of crimnes ; because we have done such a rotten job of enforcing immigration and borders up to now ; close the stupid borders like every other country does ! try sneaking into greece or china or germany and see how long you last !! !

    • Will

      1. If you migrate to this county, you must speak the native language

      2. You have to be a professional or an investor. No unskilled workers
      allowed.

      3. There will be no special bilingual programs in the schools, no
      special ballots for elections, all government business will be
      conducted
      in our language.

      4. Foreigners will NOT have the right to vote no matter how long they
      are here.

      5 Foreigners will NEVER be able to hold political office.

      6. Foreigners will not be a burden to the taxpayers. No welfare, no
      food
      stamps, no health care, or other government assistance programs.

      7. Foreigners can invest in this country, but it must be an amount
      equal to 40,000 times the daily minimum wage.

      8. If foreigners do come and want to buy land that will be okay, BUT
      options will be restricted. You are not allowed waterfront property.
      That is reserved for citizens naturally born into this country.

      9. Foreigners may not protest; no demonstrations, no waving a foreign
      flag, no political organizing, no badmouthing our president or his
      policies, if you do you will be sent home.

      10. If you do come to this country illegally, you will be hunted down
      and sent straight to jail.

      And the above is the law of Mexico.

      • Hugh Jordan

        A beautiful fairy appeared one day to a destitute Mexican refugee Outside an Arizona immigration office.

        “Good man,” the fairy said, “I’ve been sent here by President Obama and told to grant you three wishes, since you just arrived in the United States with your wife and eight children.”

        The man told the fairy, “Well, where I come from we don’t have the good teeth, so I want new teeth, maybe a lot of gold in them.”

        The fairy looked at the man’s almost toothless grin and — PING!– he had a brand new shining set of gold teeth in his mouth!

        “What else?” asked the fairy, “Two more to go.”

        The refugee claimant now got bolder. “I need a big house with a three car garage in Phoenix on the water with eight bedrooms for my family and the rest of my relatives who still live in my country.. I want to bring them all over here” — and — PING!– in the distance there could be seen a beautiful mansion with a three car garage, a long driveway, a walkout patio with a BBQ in an upscale neighborhood overlooking the water.

        “One more wish”, said the fairy, waving her wand.

        “Yes, one more wish. I want to be like an American with American clothes instead of these torn clothes, and a baseball cap instead of
        This sombrero. And I want to have white skin like Americans” —and —
        PING! — The man was transformed – wearing worn out jeans, a Diamond-Backs T-shirt and a baseball cap. He had his bad teeth back and the mansion had disappeared from the horizon.

        “What happened to my new teeth?” He wailed, “Where is my new house?”

        The fairy said:
        “Tough shit, Amigo, Now that you are a White American, you have to fend for yourself.”

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Hugh,
        I love it!!!!!!! How funny!!!

  • duggy dugg

    CUT THE FED ! the non government agency is a corporation ; incorporated in delaware ; not a 501 (c) 3 , but a for-profit corporation; the “fed” loans $$$$ trillions to congress! why on earth does the united states government need to borrow a penny ? the colonists didn’t need to borrow ; in fact the colonsts printed their own money called “scrip” ; the boe objected and wanted the colonists to use english pounds sterling , borrowed at interest, of course , from the boe; the megga powerful red shield family who controll the boe were peeved at the colonists who threw a tea party in boston harbor to defy the brits and the boe ; that is the real reason for the war of independence , not a measly tea tax ; follow the money, honey , it’s all about the money !1 ! ! !

    lincoln and jfk defied the banksters and printed u s dollars ; both were shot ; any coincidence here ? ditto mckinley and garfield ; andrew jackson was able to survive his assassination attempt ; he vetoed the predecessor to the “fed” the SBUS ; wilson signed the federal reserve banking act of 1913 same year as the federal income tax went into being to pay for the “fed” ; aren’t you glad of that ?
    wilson later regretted what he had done and campaigned to repeal the fed ; he died of “appoplexy” …my op, poison…

  • Ardine

    I agree!!! Lets get back to God. Amen

  • s c

    People who are stupid enough to vote for those who promise them a better life deserve nothing. How many generations does it take to see what these treasonous weasels have done to America? How are ANY of these slimers entitled to a raise?
    Our government uses waste, duplication, fraud, money and power to go through the motions of protecting us. When is the last time our “leaders” took the blame for something THEY did wrong?
    Show me an elected scumbag who claims he’s made America better, and I’ll show you an overpaid LIAR. who deserves to be behind bars – right after he’s been tarred and feathered.

  • Robin from Arcadia, IN

    The Dems won’t like the idea of the Republicans making an attempt to connect with the American people. It would have been a great idea if they would have thought of it!

  • angel-wanna-be

    The Best thing we can do is keep a watchful eye on Greece!?!__if the American deficeit is not brought under control and SOON, we’ll look like Greece!__I love the people who live in a dream world here, and pretend it won’t or can’t happen here. And sure the Dems are de-noncing this Republican program as a gimmick for the press. The Democrats are in the majority, they know damned well the majority of the people hate their politics, they’re scared as hell of 2010-2012, or they wouldn’t be lashing out at every miniscule opposition there is. And they are!_-The Dems better be scared, we’re tired of politics as usual Washington. Go ahead and send your voter intimidaters here in 2010-2012, we’ll ALL walk right through them.

  • http://none MARK NOJIRI

    First of all, politicians are not government employees.
    Secondly, Congress needs to stop giving themselves thousands of dollars in annual payraises and restricting the military payraises to less than %2%.

  • Billtgh

    I guess we’ll find out if the GOP offered cuts actually amount to anything. Part of me thinks it’s just another diversion, and I’ve expressed my GOP distrust to Cantor, but for the most part he seems to be a conservative, so we’ll see. The Dem-progressive site obviously is a deflection/game-show.

    I am so sick of these idiots, across the board, and I am doing everything I can to encourage the people I run into to vote for smaller government.

    • CJ

      How do you vote in someone who will bring smaller government WHEN NONE RUN FOR OFFICE????? This is the problem I have with the SOLUTION. Without the right tool, you can’t fix it. The right tool is a politician who… Never mind, I think I identified the problem. No politician can fix the problem, they’re the wrong tool. We need the lawyers out and statesmen in!

      • Karen

        Prerequisite for office should be ‘no law degree’. AND term limits once they get in….that should do it!

      • s c

        Karen, trying to impose term limits on politicians is like telling a career criminal that he has to ‘play nice’ or he’ll have to leave the playground.
        Good intentions via term limits have NO place in American politics. There is only ONE way to sever a politician’s power connection, and that is to NEVER let him have consecutive terms. THAT solves the problem.
        Anything else is sugar-coated, he really didn’t mean it, oogy woogy, pretty please and ‘hope for the best’ C R A P ! WHY can’t peope understand that, and GIVE UP on term limits?
        WHY?

  • Raymond Ross

    I say lets cut welfare to those who are not citizens of the United States.
    Quit allowing them to use our resources such as schools, medical.
    If they can’t get free money, they will go home.

  • Diane

    1. Limit welfare to a maximum lifetimeof 4 yrs., no more generational welfare.

    2. Cut salary & benefits to ALL government workers from President down to maintenance by 50 %. That will encourage those workers to find jobs in the private sector and they will finally feel our pain!

    3. End all earmark spending. Evertyhing should be open and available prior to any vote.

    4. End all assistance to illegal immigrants – no jobs, no benefits, no school, no birthright citizenship, no chain migration, no anchor babies, etc. Immigrate LEGALLY or don’t come. SECUR OUR BORDERS!!!!

    That will be a good starting point!

    • Disgusted

      Amen! Not only should it be limited to 4yrs, but they recipient should have to take a drug test to get it. How about we stop building billion dollar prisons with cable and A/C – if you have broken the law you should be uncomfortable! This attitude that everyone deserves what everyone else has is bull – if they want it let them go out and work hard and earn it like the rest of us have! All political offices should have term limits – some of them have been in office for 50+ years – that is rediculous. The perks are outrageous – I would like to fly my family to Connecticut on a military plane and not pay a dime – just charge it to my business expense account – Nancy Pelosi – this bull needs to be stopped! They are not elitists (like they think they are) – they work for us – we pay their salary and we should have a say in whether they get a raise or not. I didn’t get one last year due to the economy and this year isn’t looking much better – why should they?

    • BigBadJohn

      Diane – were have you been? Clinton’s welfare reform act of 1996 limits federal welfare funds to 5 years. States can continue to pay welfare but the federal government will not.

      The problem with cutting salaries of congress and senate is that you encourage them to pass pork legislation for their future employers. Ad term limits on top of that and you get politicians in a hurry to pass favorable laws for the industry that they want to go to work for.

  • http://camcast.net joe

    cut the spending on illegal immigrants.
    we need to secure borders.

    • Annie

      When we see insects entering our homes, we use a fumigator to get them out so they don’t spread. Let the fence be the fumigator for the illegals coming in. Only allow them to come in if they do it in a legal manner. I am the granddaughter of a legal immigrant from the Ukraine who came to this country following the rules, so it should be the same with these immigrants.

      • CJ

        Actually, when unwanted pests enter your home, the first thing you do is get rid of the items they are coming in to get. THEN you destroy what remains. If you don’t get rid of the enticement, more just follow and the fumigation was just a temporary fix. The situation with the first lady(?) yesterday points out a big problem. The little girl who asked the problem said her mother didn’t have any papers. Federal law prohibits asking for papers to prove legal status. HERE’S where you start. Get rid of the entitlements, remove the roadblocks to identify illegals, THEN get rid of the illegals that are left. We spend so much money on the illegals, there’s nothing left to help those who want to come in legally. Liberals… they never stop when they run out of OTHER PEOPLES’ money.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        CJ,
        Actually when insects invade you get rid of what they have infested. In this case the thing they have infested is the US! I don’t think I want to destroy or get rid of that! With insects you put up a barrier to avoid entry. with humans, you put up a barrier AND get rid of the enticement!!!

    • Al Sieber

      Thats a big part of the problem, giving non-citizens free stuff. giving anyone free stuff.

    • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Phil

      I think we should cut spending on our elected officials in Washington that think “They need our help”! Thank you Ms. Pelosi…

    • JLC

      Joe — Jan Brewer (Arizona) is trying to do that, and the liberal establishment is trying to nail her hide to the wall. JAN BREWER FOR PRESIDENT

  • Annie

    YEs,,, we need to bring the govt spending back into control and reality that is the real problem. We need to be able to bring the officials into our voting objectives!!!! Our country is suppose to be for the people by the people. This govt is for themselves and how they want and are going to have. That is totally wrong of them. We are wasting our tax dollars having them in office. They have to much control of what the people should have choices on!!!!! YOUR opinions are great,,, Think that is alot more peoples thots and ideas than are willing to admit outload that is for sure. I know that our govt is on a huge train crah course!!!! Will be crashing soon. Govt. people will not look at reality at all!!!!

  • Maxine Sanor

    I think if the citizens of the United States were able to vote on the salarys and benefits packages of the Represenatives of this country and not allow them to vote in higher wages and benefits for themselves. If we the people did not have to pay for all the pensions and free medical coverage for every government employee across the country we could save alot of money…I really think it has to stop somewhere…and the government is causing the problem and we all just keep paying more and more all the time for their perks…time to stop.. the small business person has no opportunity to have the same kind of perks….something needs to be done…Maxine…just my opinion

    • Richard Koch

      Maxine, I think you made some very valid points. Why are government employees (politicians or otherwise) given better perks, better retirement packages, better medical insurance, better or guaranteed pay raises. We should all be so lucky. Why are they given advantages that the average American does not receive? How was this ever conceived? What logic supports this policy, the idea that this is better for the country?

      Why are all government politicions and employees exempt from SS system? Why do they have their own seperate retirement contribution which is free from all of the termoil of our SS program. One that works

      The government says that we are looking 10% to 15% unemployment. That is so far off the mark because they are not including the self employed that are out or work. Count us and the number is probably up above 30% .

      This doesn’t phase them though, their salaries and benifits rise in spite of the economic conditions.

      Its a shame, but government is looking out for government and seeking more ways to take our earnings. Republican,Democrate, Libraterian, Indepedent or other, it really does not make a differance.

      Why haven’t any heads rolled or the economic and financial break down? Whats up with that? Franks, Pullson, @ FannyMae…………It just stinks. You could almost concieve of a conspiracy theory: Allow the people to buildup wealth for a perior of 10 yrs or so, contrive this scheme of packaging sure to fail loans, derivitives, ect watch it all fail, foreclose and get back property dirt cheep and resell when the bailouts generate a little stability and wala big profits and government taking more control of the private sector.

      Where is Michale Moore or Oliver Stone when you need them….?

      • Christopher Baker

        First of all, Federal employees do not get free healthcare, nor are they exempt from paying into Social Security (SS). They used to be exempt from SS but as of about 25 years ago that perk went out the window. They are now subject to paying a portion of their paycheck into their retirement system as well as into SS and if they wish they can voluntarily pay into a retirement savings account from their before taxes income. A portion of that is matched by the Federal government. They also pay for their Healthcare out of their paychecks. I know as I was a federal employee before I left for greener pastures.

      • Allan

        Just a few decades ago, government jobs were held below the private sector as fitting for public srvice. So benefits were the offset. Then politicians began seeing strategic reasons to grow government, and the pay side rose. Some professions are paid more, and some still a little less, but overall, pay + benefits are higher today in the public sector. Since fed and state govt are now the largest employer AND largest union, we have a MAJOR political and financial conflict between private and public sector voters. Public employees are going to support a growth agenda. Government growing itself beyond its means is no different than what ENRON did. They don’t worry about going over budget. It becomes strategic ammunition for growth. The recent 2% federal raise cost about $100 billion dollars, and the timing couldn’t have been more insulting. Currently, Obama is creating agencies at a stupefying pace. Lots of growth in high paid positions, double-dipping military hires, etc. States are ramping up taxes and fees like crazy. There is now a $50 fee in Oregon to NOT renew your business registration. Nice perk for the business that is leaving the state or going under. We are supposed to live within our means and pay our bills, but government doesn’t have to, and they are happy to bail people out in exchange for more money and control. Those at the wheel find this a very nice vantage point. Instead of apologizing to other countries, our federal government should apologize to Americans for facilitating the sub-prime meltdown that is the key factor in where we are economically. With political donations, lobbying, and job pimping currently at record levels, it should not surprise our government that people of the proposed control of Wall Street. TO think they are doing it for altruistic reasons is ridiculous. We’re not getting our money’s worth from our government, and they have made it nearly impossible to change.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Richard K.,
        The very best they should get is the industry standard. No better than the working man gets. Make them pay for their prescrip coverage like most of the regular workers!! I’m tired of paying for better benefits for them than I have!! I like my coverage and it covers me very well so why should I have to pay for better coverage for them???

    • Donald L. Cochrane

      You need to realize Maxine that the gov’t. is no longer By The People, For the People. It by those in office, for those in office and couldn’t care less what the citizens want or think, most especially the current administration. As evidence, the millions of petitions that have gone to congress over the past 10 or 15 years toward putting a lock box on the Social Security funds to prevent the further gutting of them by congress. Absolutely nothing has been done in this regard. Our promised retirement funds have been and are being stolen by congress for their own pet projects. Have fun while you can.

  • http://none MARK NOJIRI

    1. Drill domestically. Stop our dependence on foreign oil.
    2. Stop these bailouts. If an institution is failing, let them fail.
    3. Do not allow the President to fire a CEO, let the company and investors do that.
    4. Let the workers buy their own company and let them be the boss.

    • Annie

      Our Govt. is went out of control. They need to stop acting like they are working on fixing problems and start put coming up with answers. These bailouts are just bandaids covering up problems that are getting to be worse. Our country is needing people in office that cares about the country and people who are working to pay thier wages. We need to get the people out of office that are there just drawing wages and acting important. Acting important,,, is not answers. Bailing out is not answers to foolish spending!!!! Why are we the people letting these companies go out into foolish spending? Our country is out of balance!!! We need to get back into balance with spending and reality!!!!!!

      • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Phil

        If our Government wanted us to be out of dept, than why do they keep adding to the deficit?

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Mark Nojiri,
      that’s what they should do with any business that knowingly hires illegals more than once! let the employees buy the company at a greatly reduced price!!

      • Donald L. Cochrane

        Delseydo says he agrees that punishment should be meeted out to companies that knowingly hire illegals after a first time warning. However their is no point in punishing the company per se, but punish the management that allowed it to happen. Allowing the company to be bought by the employees would only result in eventually union ownership and then the eventual end of the company for lack of competitive pricing for it’s product. Between the Unions and the government our millions of jobs have gone and are continuing to go overseas or to Mexico etc. as our labor costs are no longer competitive and our government policies & taxes are business negative.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        donald,
        Then you believe that an owner should be able to duck the fact that his company hires illegals? BS! As the owner, he has a responsibility to know what is going on in his company! I’ll bet most would know if someone is cooking the books!! Closing the company down would only punish the legal employees there and that would not be right in any way!!

  • http://wwlewis@lycos.com Wayne Lewis

    237 millionaires in Congress and now the House & Senate have voted themselves $4,700 and $5,300 raises. They voted to not give us a S.S. cost of living raise in 2010 and 2011. Our Medicaid premiums will go up $285.60 for the next 2-years and we will not get the 3% COLA: $660/yr. our total 2-yr loss and cost is -$1,600 or -$3,200 for husband and wife. Do I feel Screwed? The Second Amendment (Amendment II) to the United States Constitution is the part of the United States Bill of Rights that protects a right to keep and bear arms
    Maybe the American people should try and hang onto this one, all the rest of our rights seem to be whittled down.

    • http://msn Jake

      I totally agree with you, Jake, on this one. I say stop the “free for life” policies for the politicians. Term limits might help this. They are elected to “serve the American people”, not serve themselves, which seems to be the norm. Thus, such a “fight(?)” to be re-elected. Buying their way in at the tax payers expense.

      • Harald

        Just who are “the American people”? There seems to exist a continental divide which will doom ANY initiative. 50% agree, 50% disagree. And then the bunch that doesn’t know whether they are punched or bored.

      • dayocham

        I believe that we definitely need term limits. 8 years, like the President. We have seen how much damage can be done in one year. I also think that no member of Congress should receive an increase in their salary until this country has balanced its budget, refunded Social Security and Medicare. If they vote themselves an increase until all those things are done, they should be voted out of office.

      • 45caliber

        Jake: Term limits won’t work to keep the costs down either. If a person spends ONE term as Congressman (2 years) or Senator (6 years) they get an immediate “retirement” check of 90% of their pay upon leaving office – even if they are 35 or so – and all the benefits stay in place, including medical, for the rest of their lives. The retirement goes up automatically every year – cost of living + 1%. Many of those who have been retired a long time will have retirement checks of over a million a year. Plus they get to have an office with all expenses paid for the office and two secretaries paid by the government until they die. That helps them write autobiographies, etc. If it is a President, they also get Secret Service protection until they die. Clinton had a barracks for Secret Service built at his home – at government expense – and then charges the government $10,000 a month rental on the place. That pays for his payment on his house. Now don’t you feel better??

    • Ronald Dreer

      Sorry,I don’t believe that government employees should be able to vote themselves a raise at any time. These employees are supposed to be working for the people,not themselves.
      The retired segment on SSI and medicare desperatly need the raises more. Most are struggling to keep their head above water and just live with the basics.These are people that have been the core of our country for many years,now the present administration is trying to put them on the back burner where they don’t belong.

      • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Phil

        Wouldn’t that be nice that they could vote themselves a raise. The irritating reality is they simply can only vote against it. Check and see how many are at work that day.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Phil,
        Why should the gov workers get a raise when even the disabled vets didn’t??? They did a lot more than the politicos to EARN it!! All the pols diid was sell America down the river!!!

      • Claire

        Joe H — I am with you on this.

      • 45caliber

        They DON’T vote to give themselves raises. It was too contiversal. What they did do, some years ago, was tie their salaries to those of Federal judges. The judges get an automatic pay increase of at least 3% every year – and because the judges do, Congress does as well. They have to vote to NOT give themselves a pay raise and for some reason that vote always fails. I wonder why …

    • Sidewinder

      Clair, to answer you question from yesterday…

      “Sidewinder- I read you posts for 3-4 days-and now all of a sudden you have changed. What happened?”

      I think I got tired of the low level stupidity. It started to get on my nerves.

      I have some Turkish friends and a Siryian friend. They are muslim. They were all born right here in the US. I have known them since I was 5 years old. If you shut your eyes and met them, you would think they were white. One became a doctor, one went into real estate, computers, ect. Their good guys. They are Red White and Blue, Americans. And muslim. We all played on the same baseball team growing up.

      The ignorance, and judgement being passed on people they have never even spoken to is just sick. Its such a distorted and warped view.

      I got tired of seeing really stupid posts such as this one below:

      American Conserative says:
      May 18, 2010 at 11:14 am
      They also will convert you “infidel” or chop your – that thing that sits above your shoulders with ears!!

      The mentality of certain people….
      Thinking I was posting as American Liberal, or under 15 different names. Its absurd. Its a total waste of time trying to have a conversation with people like that.

      When they do that Clair, they take it to juvinile lows.

      So yeah, Clair, my patience finally wore thin after seeing American Conservative’s post.

      You cannot reason with the unreasonable.

      • Jimminey Bop

        Their religion comes first and that is guided by the Quran. In it there are things that are considered unclean, pigs, dogs, human waste and among other things anyone that is not a Muslim.
        You may be their friend but if you are not a Muslim you are also a Kaffir!
        Get wise, they will all appear like you want them to appear until they are in the majority and then you better cover your butt ’cause when the terrorist faction of the religion asks them if they want to join in the destruction of Ameriac or lose their head, guess which way they will vote?

      • peggy

        why is it the muslim community is never heard from except to scream for civil rights? why do they not vilify the radicals who bombed the towers on 9/11, who beheaded our military and reporters? nary a word from the muslim community. yeah, sidewinder, they r really red, white & blue. they r self serving cowards and worse. great numbers of them r spies waiting for the word to plant a bomb. since u appear to be a muslim sympathizer, perhaps homeland security should take a look at you. can u read? the animal who tried to bomb times square was born “right here”. timothy mcvey was born “right here”. mcvey might not have been muslim, but he was a terrorist. because u have a few muslim friends u fancy u speak for the whole muslim world? u should remove your head from your butt, dorothy, u ain’t in kansas anymore.

      • Rip

        Thank You Peggy, I could Not have said it better Myself, just add to that, that if your going to buddy up to The Muslim world You had Better read their version of “The Good Book” ans just see what a “Loving” (puke) People They are.

    • s c

      Wayne, how many of those 237 millionaires were millionaires BEFORE they went to Washington? An elected “leader” who gets rich while he’s in Congress should be seen as a thief – and treated as one.
      Getting rich is not in the job description, and the idea that someone can ‘find time’ to get rich and do the job right is INSANE. How are they entitled to anything beyond basic healthcare, a small allowance and a place to live?
      They’re treated like royalty. Whether they’re conservatives or progressives or something in between, they are a disgrace. How do they NOT prove that they don’t give a damn about the working man or the poor or anyone else in America?
      The idea that someone can get rich in Congress is too damned close to the idea that CRIME PAYS. Throw the bastards OUT, TRULY re-distribute that stolen wealth and then reserve some prison cells.

      • Donald L. Cochrane

        Delseydo says “We have put the foxes in charge of the hen house and will continue to pay for their princely luxuries as we have no control. Voting them out means only that we have voted new ones in who will not reverse the evils already instituted and will just be umpteen more on the collecting end. Until the actual citizenry gets control nothing will improve.

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