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A Crude Coincidence—The Gulf Oil Spill Works Out Well For The Greens

May 5, 2010 by  

A Crude Coincidence—The Gulf Oil Spill Works Out Well For The Greens

"The end justifies the means.”Machiavelli
 
Fact: Deep water oil platforms don’t just blow up. As the centerpieces of projects that cost billions of dollars, they are designed not to.

Fact: Just before 10 a.m. on April 20 a Transocean rig called the Deepwater Horizon 40 miles south of Venice, La., exploded and caught fire as it was working a well for BP.

Fact: Two weeks later as much as 300,000 barrels of crude oil have spread into the Gulf of Mexico, the bulk of it hitting the shores of Louisiana. More than 2 million barrels could spill out before the well is finally capped making this disaster worse than the Exxon Valdez catastrophe which spilled 400,000 barrels of oil into Alaska’s Prince William Sound in 1989.

Fact: This giant gulf oil spill happened less than three weeks after President Barack Obama announced he would allow offshore drilling.

Fact: Few in the mainstream media or in the federal government are putting a spotlight on to what caused the explosion that killed 11 men. Rather, their focus has been on what it will do to the environment.

Fact: The Greens have all the ammunition they need to permanently suspend future offshore oil production as well as drilling in environmentally sensitive areas, such as the oil-rich Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.

On April 30 Obama suspended plans to expand offshore oil drilling. That same day, during the PBS talk show, The McLaughlin Group, Eleanor Clift made this prediction: “The catastrophic oil spill in the gulf will silence Sarah Palin’s, ‘Drill, Baby, Drill.’”

That’s the aim of the Greens. Michael Brune, executive director of the Sierra Club,said on Saturday: “Taking a temporary break from offshore drilling is an important step, but it’s not enough. We need to stop new offshore drilling for good, now. And then we need an aggressive plan to wean America from dirty fossil fuels in the next two decades.”

What My Deep Throat Says About This Deep Disaster
While I have been around plenty of oil rigs in my life I am hardly an expert. But I have friends who are. One of them is Ryan who is an oil field technician for one of the original Seven Sisters here in Calgary. I met with him last Friday to talk about the Transocean accident and what might have triggered the explosion.

“It probably comes down to one of two things,” said Ryan. “The blowout preventer failed to operate and seal the well. With the computers they have on deep ocean wells that shouldn’t happen; there is always the possibility of human error.” He looked around the room and then confided: “And of course it could be sabotage.”

The blowout preventer is a set of valves that connects the pipe from underground to the surface and it is used to control excessive pressure that might go further up the line. Valves can burst from either high-pressure oil, or oil mixed with gas which travels to the surface unexpectedly. That can start a catastrophic fire if sparked by the electrical gear on the platform. It should be noted that oil services contractor Halliburton is denying that its workers might have caused the accident.

It has already been alleged that Halliburton improperly cemented the well. Cementing is a process used to fill the gap between the drilled hole and the casing that brings oil and gas up out of the ground.

There has been speculation on whether the sealing process had been completed before the blast occurred. Yet the company insists that its workers had finished the cementing operation 20 hours before the rig went up in flames.

Perhaps It Was Just A Coincidence
The Wall Street Journal wrote on Friday: “Concerns about the cementing process—and about whether rigs have enough safeguards to prevent blowouts—raise questions about whether the industry can safely drill in deep water and whether regulators are up to the task of monitoring them.” To its credit, the WSJ is one of the few to report on the question of what caused the explosion.

While the Exxon Valdez accident immediately focused on the cause of the spill and the role that ship’s captain Joseph Jeffrey Hazelwood played, there is so far scant information and inquiry into what triggered the explosion on board the Deepwater Horizon.

The Greens were furious with Obama for allowing offshore drilling. It may be a happenstance that the Deepwater Horizon blew up three weeks later. But given the history of the Green movement I think it is worth considering that environmental extremists could have had a hand in this accident.

I had been thinking along these lines this past Friday when I got an email from my editor asking if I thought something was fishy and would I like to write about it.

I said yes, even though I was a bit apprehensive that you folks might consider me a reactionary or even a nut. And while I am not a big listener of Rush Limbaugh, I was encouraged when I read he was thinking along the same lines.

"Obviously the regime (the Obama Administration) is open to the idea that this is not an accident,” said Limbaugh. "The original Earth Day 40 years ago was inspired by the river in Cleveland catching fire. Forty years later, the day before Earth Day this year, the gulf is on fire. Coincidence? The jury is still out."

Love him or loathe him, what Limbaugh says is backed up by the actions of the White House which sent Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano to the site. Napolitano has declared this is “an incident of national significance." Then on Sunday Obama visited the Gulf Coast to bolster efforts to control the spill.

The Dark Side Of The Greens
Of course I don’t know that eco-terrorists sparked this catastrophe. But I do know you don’t call a cop unless you think there might have been a crime. And some extremists in the Green movement are most certainly criminals.

The Federal government considers eco-terrorism a greater threat to America than Osama bin Laden and his organization al Qaida. According to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI): “Eco-terrorism is the use or threatened use of violence of a criminal nature against innocent victims or property by an environmentally oriented, sub-national group for environmental-political reasons, or aimed at an audience beyond the target, often of a symbolic nature."

Guilty or not I have no doubt that the extremists in the environmental movement must be celebrating the Gulf Coast crisis. A recent poll by the WSJ asked: “Have your views on offshore drilling changed after the oil spill off the Louisiana coast?” The response by its conservative readership was a resounding, yes.

We may never know what caused the explosion that sunk the Deepwater Horizon. What we do know is that 11 men lost their lives and there is going to be untold suffering to the wildlife and on the people of America’s Gulf Coast. We can also expect this catastrophe will do to deep water oil exploration what Chernobyl did to nuclear energy. I expect new offshore drilling to cease for years, perhaps even decades. That sets up a future of greater dependence on Arab oil imports and higher energy prices.

Action To Take: Expect plenty of blame to go around and three companies are going to get hammered: BP (NYSE: BP, $52.15), Transocean Ltd. (NYSE: RIG, $72.32) and Halliburton Co. (NYSE: HAL, $30.65). If you own shares in these stocks liquidate them immediately. If you own energy mutual funds make sure that part of your fund does not own these three stocks. If they do, sell the fund. What is ironic is that over the past few years BP has bragged that its name no longer stands for British Petroleum but rather Beyond Petroleum. It looks as if they might turn out to be right.

Yours for real wealth and good health,

John Myers
Myers’ Energy and Gold Report

John Myers

is editor of Myers’ Energy and Gold Report. The son of C.V. Myers, the original publisher of Oilweek Magazine, John has worked with two of the world’s largest investment publishers, Phillips and Agora. He was the original editor for Outstanding Investments and has more than 20 years experience as an investment writer. John is a graduate of the University of Calgary. He has worked for Prudential Securities in Spokane, Wash., as a registered investment advisor. His office location in Calgary, Alberta, is just minutes away from the headquarters of some of the biggest players in today’s energy markets. This gives him personal access to everyone from oil CEOs to roughnecks, where he learns secrets from oil insiders he passes on to his subscribers. Plus, during his years in Spokane he cultivated a network of relationships with mining insiders in Idaho, Oregon and Washington.

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  • GoodLuckAll

    It’s all about money. Money trumps life in this nightmare world we’ve created. The good of a few trumps the good of the many. We obviously have not become any more wise with our years. Good luck to us all!

  • Todd

    Could it be sabotage? Definitely. It was the first thing that occurred to me. The enviro-fascist pukes are certainly not beyond murder and maiming people. Ask a logger who’s suffered a serious injury or loss of limb after cutting into a spiked tree if you doubt that.

    Also, the coincidence is too great. Obama’s rabid, far-left base is in a rage over the drilling thing. As far as Obama goes, he’s probably breathing a sigh of relief and high-fiving his cronies over this “convenient” accident. Meanwhile, families mourn the loss of innocent loved ones, and all of us will pay through the nose at the gas pump for this.

    As far as dumping your BP stock, you might want to hold the phone on that one. After the Exxon Valdez spill in 1989, Exxon’s stock lost 6% of its value, but it had recovered in a month. The caveat here is that this isn’t 1989 and the climate for such things has changed greatly.

  • Sidewinder

    American Liberal, I didn’t get the impression that there was any kind of “Wish” from the author that this was sabotage. I think he was just looking at all things and speculating on who might benefit from this. It was only suggested, that it may be sabotage. Said he didn’t know.

    I too lean towards it being a horrible accident. To me, human error especially in haste seems much more likely to me.

    • American Liberal

      Sidewinder … I don’t have any doubt this authors intent was to ” wish” this was a greenie act of terrorism…. Look at his opener” The end justifies the means”… He put sabatoge out there with” ZERO proof…. None….and he knew some of the weak minded rightwing that hate everything our current president and will say and do anything to hurt his presidency and our country… These people search the news for anything bad that sheds a bad light on our president … These are radicals… I could just as easy say ” it was rightwingers that sabatoged that rig” just to discredit president Obama… But I think that’s crazy…. It was an accident, and the risk of this kind of drilling isn’t wort the benifits….if this oil platform had been a sucess their would never had been any price decrease or more oil on the market… In fact if these big oil companys had every drop of oil on the planet you’d never see the price of oil drop….., BP made a profit of 5.5 Billion dollars LAST YEAR… But didn’t want to spend the 250,000 dollars the safety valve would have cost….now look at what this disaster is gonna coat us… And you know they will pass the cost to US…

      • Sidewinder

        I do agree with you that if the oil companies had every drop of oil in the world in their possession, we’d still never see the price of oil drop.
        I think it strange that after more than 100 years we are still relying on the internal combustion engine. With all the advancements of technology in other areas, I would have hoped by now there would have been something better than this.
        In the 1980′s my wife worked for Montsanto as a chemical reseacher. She developed a type of plastic that conducted electricity. It was for use as a windshield inner layer. The purpose was to have a windshield that defrosted itself like your back window, but without the wires running through it. It worked great. That technology is in a file, on an archive shelf somewhere, for whatever reason.
        I wonder what else is out there.

  • http://www.ecoenergygroupusa.com Steve Jones

    I’m one of those Greens that is passionate about my country decreasing its dependence on fossil fuels and imported Arab petroleum products. I also know there is a strong fringe element of fanatics overjoyed by this tragedy and intend to use it to push through their agenda. These fantics are well trained and schooled, technologically sophisticated, and quite capable of sabotage. They did not need a robotic submarine to cause this tragedy — all they needed was an understanding of the software systems operating the safety quipment on Transocean. It is possible they also infiltrated the operators, but they could also have planted a bot that allowed them to interfere with the safetly operations from offshore. The list of sabotage opportunities and methods is long. This needs investigation as this may be the largest incident of eco-terrorism in history and we need to be suspicious. There is an ancient principle of Roman law, “Cual Bono,” meaning who benefited, and the list is endless ranging from tose betting on the decline of specific stocks and bonds, to the increase in oil prices, to those hoping to make trillions (Yes, that’s right trillions!) off of cap and trade or new energy taxes. The list is great and all avenues have to be exhausted before anyone voicing suspicions can be called “idiots.” I strongly believe there was both motive and opportunity to commit a crime. I point no fingers, just ask it be investigated. I hope I am wrong and the spill is proven to be accidental.

    • http://personalliberty PFFFF

      You have already identified it as “eco-terrorism” on what ground?? What insight do you have to label this terrorism?

      • http://www.ecoenergygroupusa.com Steve Jones

        Another spinmaster at work, right? I merely stated there are identified green fanatics quite capable and willing to sabotage and that possibility should be investigated. I pray this was merely an accident brought about by human error. However, the serendipitous nature of this spill has energized green fanatics throughout the world. If you don’t believe me, I can give you a list of blogs where the spill is being celebrated as the end of offshore oil drilling.

      • JeffH

        Reverse the question. What insight do YOU have that indicates it wasn’t?

      • http://www.ecoenergygroupusa.com Steve Jones

        In the past 30 days we have seen an unexpected and rather mysterious explosion at the Massey cal mine in WV followed by the Transocean disaster. In all 40 men have perished in accidents that have not yet been explained. These accidents are also once in a life time occurences. Prior to the accidents Cap and Trade was stalled, nearly finished in the Senate. Today, its likely to be passed before the end of the month. Those in position to benefit will dominate a 10 TRILLION dollar market. That’s enough to make the greedy moguls at Goldman Sachs to drool with anticipation. The now moribund Chicago Cliamte Exchange will make billions for its members. Maybe I watch too many Law and Order shows or read to many Agatha Christie novels but I am suspicious. Couple that with my rather intimate knowledge of the green movement and I will urge all to demand a proper investigation and pray my suspicions and instincts are entirely misplaced.

      • JeffH

        Expand the thought to a “One World Order” ideology of the most manipulative, richest and powerfull people in the world.
        The Rothschilds, Rockerfellers, Soros, etc and the “governments” they are able to buy. The economies they are able to destroy. Think in terms of IMF or EU and global control. It is a well known concept and has been pushed and pulled since 740AD.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Good post, you make a lot of sense.

  • Doc Sarvis

    At this point all we have is Wild Speculation. All we know is there was a big explosion and environmental disaster is occurring as we speak.

  • American Liberal

    It’s way to early to know what really happened on this platform…. It’s also nonsense to suggest it was sabatoge … We do know it’s possible this could be a huge disaster….as I understand it , this platform wasn’t a BP platform…the company rig was hired by BP and had no safety valves.. The valves are not required in America.. They should be… I also think it’s to early to ban all offshore drilling but I agree it should be suspended till all the facts are in…. This article was lacking in ” Facts” and was just accusations and a wish by the author that it was sabatoge…weak.. Just like Windbag Rush Limbaugh, and only a weak mind would assume it was ” greenies”…of course nutcases will jump on the sabatoge theory.. My guess is just a horrible accident.. But the shutoff valves are a must on the future…my opinion is without the safety valves the risk outweighs the benifits if offshore drilling..let’s see how BP steps up to the plate and excepts responsibility..

    • American Liberal

      The leak started over a mile deep…. Sabatoge?… No…this article is nonsense..

      • JeffH

        The oil leak didn’t occur until after the initial blowout!
        Sabotage? Anything is possible!

        How did the blowout occur?

        We don’t yet know precisely what happened to cause the blowout–there will no doubt be months of investigations. The basic idea of what happened is that Transocean, under contract with BP, was attempting to drill a new well, not too far from existing wells in a deep water area of the Gulf of Mexico. The well was almost complete–in fact, the well seemed to be far enough along that the danger of blowout appeared to be very low. The casing had been cemented, and work was being done on getting a production pipe installed.

        Apparently, a pressure surge occurred that could not be controlled. While the equipment includes all kinds of controls and alarms, and a huge 450 ton device called a blowout preventer, somehow it was still not possible to control the hydrocarbon flow. At such high pressures, some of the natural gas separated from the oil within the hydrocarbon stream and ignited causing the explosion

        Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/gulf-of-mexico-deepwater-horizon-oil-spill-2010-4#ixzz0n4j09Jqa

      • marvin

        JeffH ,SOME POINTS the natural gas is the pusher for oil it is the gravity of the oil with out it oil will not flow and is thick and heavy if the blow out preventor was in place and working it would have shut of the flow as for 450 ton sounds big most i ever say were in the 1 ton range weight wise with bolt on flanges all steel o rings with two sets of rams one to close on pipe and one to cut the pipe off and seal now this bop being use uder water would most likely be bigger but the same principal point being if the bop was working and they showed it on tv so it was on the well it just not working or won,t close

    • laura

      A.L.-
      You know that’s the same way I feel about you socialist libby dems.Just a bunch of “NUTCASES”.
      You’ll accuse the right when it suits your propaganda lies.
      Your opinion is as worthless as you are!!

      GOD BLESS AMERICA

  • Sidewinder

    Whatever the cause, those poor folks in Louisanna will be covered in petroleum if they try to go to the beach this summer. And who’s gonna want to eat the seafood from there?
    Its such a disaster.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      I agree on that, this is a disaster, and it is going to take time to clean it up. But Im totally against what I know is going to happen, and that is the greenies rising up all over. There are more car accidents killing people and damaging property everywhere, so should we demonize GM and Chrysler? Accidents happen. Question is, was this really an accident. I would like to think so, but the greenies track record and their constant push to further their agenda at all costs, leaves this question in doubt, especially when these things are designed to not what happened what happened here. Something just seems rotten about the whole thing.

      • Dave

        What evidence do you all have for “Greenies” having a strong agenda and doing whatever they have to. What “record” do you keep referring to? Are you talking about Far Left Radicals from the 60s who did some stupid things in the name of the environment? What about the far right radicals that train for the end of times and plan to kill federal agents to start a civil war? I think there should definitely be a full investigation. The odds of this being sabotage are very low but if it was, whether that person was from the far left or the far right they shold be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I think it’s ridiculous to assume it was sabotage though just because of some stupid political agenda. Also, I’mn glad at least some people noted that we should thinking about the families who have lost loved ones and the people that are still missing.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Im talking about pounding spikes in trees and making the loggers lose their arms and legs when the chains flew off. Im talking about them burning down SUV’ dealerships, all the vehicle included, releasing mass amounts of pollutants into the air, under the guise of getting rid of them so they dont pollute the air. Burning them up made 10 times more pollution than these vehicles could have amassed in 20 years of use. They burnt down apartments, condo’s and houses built where they determined they didnt think they should be built, after the owners legally bought land and built. Things like this and many many more things they have done, lead to a questionable track record for these guys. Or have you been living in a cave and not heard of any of this? Do you want to question me more, because I will gladly do some more research and come up with 10 more factual instances of crap like this that they have stooped to.

      • JeffH

        Dave, maybe you should read this

        Top 20* List of Illegal Actions
        by Animal and Eco-Terrorists
        1996-2006

        http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/animalresearch/top20incidents.pdf

        1. San Diego Arson
        In August 2003, the Earth Liberation Front (ELF) claimed responsibility for setting fire to
        a new housing development near San Diego – to protest sprawl and development.

        2. Bombing at Chiron Corporation
        In August 2003, two incendiary devices exploded at Chiron Corporation in Northern
        California. The explosions occurred in the early morning hours causing property damage,
        but no injuries to people. Chiron Corp. had been a target of escalating harassment and
        actions due to its alleged connection to Huntington Life Sciences (HLS). There is a
        $50,000 reward offered for information leading to the arrest of Daniel Andreas San Diego,
        who authorities believe was involved in setting these bombs as well as the bombing of
        Shaklee Corp, which was also targeted for its connection to HLS.

        4. Razor Blade Mailing
        In October 1999, an animal extremist group calling itself “the justice department”
        released a communiqué warning that over 80 packages containing razor blades had been
        mailed to American researchers studying non-human primates. Seven such envelopes
        were received by research facilities in various parts of the country.

        6. Vail Ski Resort Arson
        In October 1998, ELF claimed responsibility for an arson fire that caused massive
        destruction at Vail Ski Resort in October of 1998. The fire destroyed a restaurant, picnic
        facility, utility building and four ski lifts. An ELF communiqué said the fire was set to
        protest the proposed expansion of the resort and the declining habitat of lynx. Damage
        was assessed at $12 million.

        14. Break-in, Theft and Destruction at Brigham Young University
        In July 2004, the letters “ALF” were found spray-painted in seven locations at Brigham
        Young University’s agriculture center, near a recycling building to which firefighters had
        been called to extinguish a suspicious fire. This was the third incident that BYU
        attributed to ALF in a six week period during which a barn was broken into, animals and
        equipment stolen. Damaged was assessed at $30,000.

        15. Boise Cascade Arson
        In December 1999, ELF claimed responsibility for an arson fire that destroyed Boise
        Cascade’s regional headquarters in Monmouth, Oregon. A communiqué from the ELF
        stated: Early Christmas morning elves left coal in Boise Cascade’s stocking. Four buckets
        of diesel gas with kitchen timer delay destroyed their regional headquarters.” Damage
        was assessed at $1 million.

        17. University of Washington Arson
        In May 2001, a fire was set at the Center for Urban Horticulture at the University of
        Washington in Seattle. The arson was attributed to the ELF, which objected to the plant
        research being conducted. Damage was assessed at $5 million.

        18. Bombing at B&K Universal
        In February 2000, ALF claimed responsibility for placing four incendiary devices at the
        warehouse of B&K Universal, a supplier of products to the animal research community.
        Several trucks were damaged.

        21. HLS Employee Beaten
        In the UK, in February 2001, the managing director of HLS was brutally attacked by
        three baseball-bat wielding thugs in the garage of his own home. Brian Cass was
        hospitalized by the attack.

  • American

    Barbara Humphrey, can you give me the date that you and all your left- wing, radical idiots will stop blaming George Bush for EVERYTHING? I’d like to mark it on my calendar and stop submitting myself to any media at all until then because I’m so tired of hearing you all whining and pointing the finger at someone else because your party can’t do the job.

    • Sidewinder

      American, I had a similiar conversation with my brother a while back. He told me that GWB is no longer president, so theres no need to even be discussing his failures now.

      I don’t agree with that. Much of the GWB mismanagement has a lasting effect, and I don’t think we should be so quick to forget. Not to get off topic here, but the damage GW did to the constitution with the Patroit Act is unforgivable, and continues. In certain cases, the 4th Amendment has been shredded.

      The damage to our liberty occurs in increments. Government takes a little, we squirm, then adjust to it. Then they take a little more. Until our liberty is gone completely. If we give GWB a pass, and forget about it, the next step is for gov to take a little more.

      GWB did a lot of damage. We can certainly point our fingers at other presidents too, but right now, we’re talking about Bush.
      I say let them vent if they want to. No freedom loving American should be ok with the provisions in the Partoit Act. My trust level of the Bush Administration went lower than Zero.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        He is gone, and did a good job. Bill Clinton’s damage is still lasting, such as the banks collapse. But hey, he is gone too. Lets concentrate on the damage this guy in power is doing now. And the difference I will point out, is when Bush came in and cleaned up Clinton’s depression, he didnt stand on his soap box and point the finger and yell Clinton, Clinton, Clinton, and he didnt campaign on that either. He said what he was going to do, got elected, rolled up his sleeves and went to work, and got us back on track. Obama has done nothing but point the finger yelling Bush, Bush, Bush, and still a year and half later, pointing the finger yelling Bush, Bush, Bush. He has spent more in his first 8 months than the Bush admin did in 8 years, with nothing to show for it. He has offerered no solutions, only to weaken us to our enemies, free those who are trying to kill us, who emerge in other places still trying to kill us, while putting our soldiers on trial for killing those who threaten them. So stop blaming Bush, and look at what is going on in front of you. Each of this current admins mis-steps have nothing to do with Bush, and everything to do with in-experience, cowardice, and downright stupidity.

      • Dave

        What world do you live in Beberoni? GWB was on vacation more in his first 9 months of office then most presidents do in a years. He came in and gave the top earners a tax cut which started our way toward a deficit. Then he read a children’s book while the 9/11 disaster was unfolding. Then he ruled by fear and took away all of our civil liberties. You people talk about Obama taking away our constitutional rights but GWB was the one actually doing that and you all didn’t say antyhing about it then. You think the government should have the right to spy on it’s own citizens without a warrant but heaven forbid you have to wait 2 weeks to get a gun. You only fear Obama because he’s a Democrat and because he’s black and has a funny sounding name. He’s NOT a Muslim either so stop saying it. And really, what would it matter if he was? Why is that a bad thing? If he was a Muslim obviously he’s not a fundamentalist who hates America. He’s the friggin President you idiots. Just because GWB was an Evangelistic christian that doesn’t make him a good leader or a good man. Anyone can be born again. Don’t go mistaking someone who you can relate with to someone who can run this country. Judging by your comments I’d rather our leader was someone you didn’t like.

      • phil

        that lyin anti-american, anti-capitalist piece of crap is not my president he is a traitor. you can tell a lot from his appointees which are almot withour exception marxist/communist radicals. the destruction of america is well underway according to Saul Alinsky plan

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Well, lets look at fact, if your interested in them at all. Under Bush, more people were employed in the United States than ever before under any admin. The unemployement rate was at the lowest level its ever been at. The stock market was at the highest level its ever been at. In fact, even at Bush’s lowest level, it was higher than Clinton’s highest, and all I heard was how wonderful that philanderer was economically. Bush admin freed two countries and millions of people. What I hold against them is they did control spending, much to my dismay. But I strike where striking is do, and give credit where credit is do. The democratic congress all voted for this war, in fact the top democrats, including Bill and Hillary, were on TV calling for stopping Saddam before Bush was even a candidate for president. They said he had WMD’s and had to be stopped. I watched them and heard them say it, didnt you? Now here comes Obummer, spends more in 8 months than the Bush admin did in 8 years, with nothing to show for it. They took backwards steps in the war. Raised taxes, decided to use our tax dollars to perform abortions overseas, gave GM and Chrysler billions of dollars as a reward for not running their business’s correctly, and are screwing up everytime they do something, and still guys like you cannot read the writing on the wall, and resort to the democrat playbook of “lets just blame Bush”. I mean after all, that was the key that Obama ran on to get elected. You can lie to yourself if you want, but old Bush did a pretty good job, except for not controlling spending.

      • DaveH

        Dave,
        What George Bush did when he signed the tax bill was to take less of their money. He didn’t “give” them anything. Still the top 1% of the income earners in this country pay 40% of the income taxes. The bottom 50% of the income earners pay only 3% of the income taxes. This is fair in your greedy Liberal mind? Talk about taxation without representation!
        I agree with you on the Patriot Act, but how come your President isn’t working to rescind that atrocity? He just rammed his Healthcare Agenda down the throats of the citizens whether they liked it or not, so don’t tell me he doesn’t have the power to rescind the Patriot Act.
        You make light of the two week waiting period, but waiting two weeks to buy a gun can be a death sentence for some law-abiding citizens.
        Okay, I won’t say Obama is a Muslim. I will let him say it:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY&feature=related

      • Jesse

        I’m no fan of GWB, but the fact that he was reading a children’s book during the 9/11 attack is irrelevant. There isn’t much his ‘location’ could have done to prevent the attacks. Unless of course you subscribe to the crazy theory that he ‘knew’ in advance and was conveniently out of Washington? If you think that GWB knew about 9/11, then you will probably believe the oil rig/sabotage conspiracy theory too. BUT, if you think the oil slick in the Gulf is an act of sabotage do you think GWB is responsible for 9/11? Can you believe in one crazy conspiracy theory but deny the other one?

      • laura

        Beberoni-I completely agree with all your points GWB was a great president and a good man! The liberals have done everything they could to destroy his reputation and that propaganda has bled over into the Republican Party.Very sad.The commy liberals said the same trash about Ronald Reagan. I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again, the Dems are liars to the core.

        DAVE-this is for you! GWB waited 2 minutes to finish a story to small children and DIDN’T freak out in front of them like you stupid libs would have done.GWB has some class unlike you slimy libs.

        So do the math dave,2 minutes, 10 DAYS, 10 DAYS!?!?!?

        GOD BLESS AMERICA

      • marvin

        Sidewinder no we are talking about the offshore rig that was on fire and why the blow out preventer won,t work but come think of it on the model number it said insp by gwb ,that it bush doin it case closed ,no you want to play the blame game did you ever stop and think that this may have not been a accident bush is HISTORY

  • jack

    You mean that, The Greenies and that Musilum President, would stoop so low to do something like allow an Oil rig to blow up, to spew all that oil over the evironment???? Well, I’ll be darned..

    • phil

      it’s not about the environment for the greenies….its about money and power and overturning the capitalist system and degradation of American values. and hypocrisy….like the evniro-god Al Gore making 100 Million plus on green shit spouting his bull crap about our carbon fot print while buying a 9 million dollar home over looking the pacific that has 9 bathrooms, 5 fireplaces (wood burning) a pool and no solar panels. The green movement attacks the poor and it will really hurt them when gas goes to $5 or $7 or $10 a gallon and with the cap and screw bill everything will cost more. the cap and screw bill is estimated to generated 10 trillion bucks for the greenies …no motivation to lie there, huh?

      • JeffH

        phil, great points, all of them.

  • Harold Carpenter

    I have come to the point that I do not put anything beyond the current administration. They have one thing on their agenda and what are a few lives if it achieves their goal. This is the first time in my life (of 67 years) that I do not trust our government. Again, I do not put anything past them to achieve their goals…….

    • DaveH

      I haven’t trusted them for most of mine. Any group that exempts themselves from the rules of morality (thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal) is not to be trusted.

  • OGrayBear

    Just curious..eleven people missing, but has anyone seen or read anything about the names of those listed as missing and what about their grieving families? During news coverage of the recent mining accident in WVA families were interviewed non-stop.

    • Pat R

      I know that 4 men were from Mississippi (my State). I don’t recall the names; they were not local.
      My son-in-law works offshore and leaves back out today. He works for another company. I pray for his safety all the time. He runs a Crane, which is very dangerous. Please pray for these people who risk their lives daily, also!

  • Nick

    I find it interesting that when Obama is again pushing Cap & Trade within two week there is two mine disasters and an oil rig explosion. These industries are highly regulated and stress safety. We generally go years and years without hearing of if such disasters, now there are three in two weeks.
    I have always heard that these things happen in three’s but the timing is suspect. There at least should be an investigation, but wiht the Socialist in charge it woln’t happen.

  • http://personalliberty PFFFF

    Don’t let BP get away with irresponsible actions and shifting the blame on innocent people. Demand an investigation; don’t turn this into a witch hunt.

    • DaveH

      You’re right. BP has long been advertising about their Greeness. Let the Greens take the responsibility for their actions.

    • JeffH

      PFFFF, yes we all can demand an investigation but our government is incapable of providing an impartial investigation.

      The final results will be doctored with lies, distorted facts, and half truths by the lawyers and political powers that will control the end result. The people will never know the truth.

      • JeffH

        Greed and power…will clearly influence an “impartial” investigation.

      • George E

        Jeff,

        I definitely don’t trust politicians to give us the real unvarnished truth unless it aligns with their agenda. However, I feel sure the oil and gas industry will seek out the truth for themselves so they can find out what caused this accident so they can take measures to avoid it in the future. With all of the folks involved in this effort, the truth will eventually get out, I feel sure.

      • JeffH

        George E, eventually that will probably happen. To get to the bottom of the matter will take years, that I am sure of. Whether or not the final determinations are the truth or not will always be a mystery. Recent history has proven that. JFK, Waco, Ruby Ridge? Questions remain today that either have never been answered, been covered up or just plain ignored…coverup is the name of the game. I wish there was some trust to be found, but it’s just not there anymore.

  • NANCYRUSSELL

    I NEVER BELIEVED AKA WEEKS AGO WHEN HE SUDDENLY CHANGED FROM “NO DRILLING” TO “DRILLING”. I THOUGHT THEN HE WOULD COME UP WITH SOME REASON WHY AMERICA COULD NOT DRILL SO THAT WHEN THIS EVENT HAPPENED IT TIED IN WITH HIS ANNOUNCING ALL DRILLING PLANS ARE OFF. THIS WAS A POLITICAL MOVE TO MAKE IT SEEM HE WAS GOING TO WEAN US OFF OF FOREIGN OIL WHEN HE NEVER HAD ANY INTENTION EVER OF DOING SO AND HIS USE OF THE CRAZY GREENIES MADE IT ALL POSSIBLE. WHENEVER HIS LIPS MOVE, HE’S LYING. HE ALWAYS PLANS FOR PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY.

    • American Liberal

      Nancy… First.. Turn off your caps please….you must have not listened during the presidential campaign… President Obama said while campaigning that he was concidering offshore drilling…if you just listen to Rush Limbaugh or Watch Fox News you won’t hear that…. But it’s a fact…

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Considering. Like he was considering telling the truth, doesnt mean he really meant it.

      • GoodLuckAll

        Bickering back and forth about this proves that there is no bipartisanship in the government anymore. It’s over and it has been over for awhile. Total division. The current administration does whatever it wants and doesn’t care about the consequenses becuase neither side listens to the other. They are striking while their iron’s hot. Then it’s the GOP’s turn. How long will this ping pong game go on?

      • Dave

        I agree with you Goodluckall in part. BIpartisanship is dead. A big part of that problem though is because that’s what the voters beleive. Each side assumes the other is always lying and on the “eveil” side. If a Republican works at all with a Deomcrat they will be heckled by the far right and if they oppose everything, or even yell out hate speech on the floor of the senate they are rewarded with more funding. This all really kicked off when GWB was “elected” the first time and Karl Rove was introduced into politics. The truth is that both sides have some good ideas but people like the far right crazies that frequent this blog will never allow bipartisanship. The far left is also bad, don’t get me wrong, I just have an easier time backing people who are looking out for the good of the common man instead trickle down economics and religious fundamentalism. I guess I still have a way to go too.

      • DaveH

        GoodLuckAll,
        The game will go on until people realize that both major parties want Big Government and both want to force their own pet agendas down the throats of the citizens.
        The only way we are ever going to achieve reasonable peace is to greatly reduce the Government’s role in our everyday decisions. One size does not fit all and never will.
        Vote for Individual Freedom, Individual Responsibility, Limited Government, and Free Markets. Vote Libertarian:
        http://libertarianparty.org/platform

      • http://aol.com Pathfinder

        The game will continue so long as the American people bounce back and forth between these corrupt parties like a bunch of ping pong balls. STOP IT !! Vote Libertarian !!

    • http://email garyb

      You are so right NANCYRUSSEL about all the lies coming from our WH these days. Muslims abound the property. We must watch our backs from now on. This wonderful country OF OURS is changing drasticly and not for the good. It’s making me so sad to see all these disasters going on and NO ONE SEES HOW CORRUPT OUR GOVERNMENT HAS BECOME.This oil rig was not a natural event.

      • Guy

        You people need to keep open minds on who is responsible From what I have read there was a north Korean ship in the gulf at that time who says they didn’t have something to do with it.All so lets not forget about the Muslims That are trying to take over everything I live in a small town in north Fl.where one group owns around 7 of the most money making mine marts and they just built a big holiday inn express and have been trying to buy a small store that is in a great location even before its finished this is the type of stuff that scares me and would not put it past these people from taking out a oil rig.STOP THINKING SMALL LOOK AT THE WHOLE PICTURE TO MANY PEOPLE WANT TO HURT US

  • Barbara Humphrey

    Who needs comedy, with the likes of this. We have already gotten the explanation, and it’s that money trumps science every time. Companies rarely spend more for safety unless they are forced to do so. And, thanks to GWB, with no government oversight, why bother even doing what the law requires. Companies are generally so well protected that even when there is no question of who is responsible, they will put the lawyers to work to delay having to part with their assets and in the end, will give the big boys bonuses and declare bankruptcy. While the rest of us lose our businesses, homes, recreational facilities and spend our days wiping oil off bird feathers. Yea, who needs comedy when have heaped on the tragedy thick as oil, even the sweet stuff.

    • jbird

      Darn. Bush’s fault again. Who knew?

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      There it is. I was wondering when Bush was going to get blamed for it. Must be a wonderful hate filled world you lefties live in. Its always Bush’s fault. Aint that special.

    • Ray

      Barbra
      It must be great to just spew out of your mouth what you like. Bush relaxing requirments, you have got to be kiding. I have worked in the oil industry on all types of rigs since 1981. The fact is equipment fails, people makes mistakes. I spent from 2001-2005 out of the USA on a 5th gen rig (similar to what went down) and came back to a world of new regulations and they are tough. The BOP’s have to be pressure tested weekly. Look at the history of the oil industry, little invironmental impact, until this and don’t bring up the Valdez that is shipping not drilling or producing.
      While I was in the USA we drilled 3 wells past 6 miles in deep water and that is record breaking, In Asia we drilled moored in 7,000 ft of water and that is record breaking. Drilling is done safe, rig hands are more concerned about safety and the environment than tree huggers we just go about protecting the environment differently.
      I didn’t know anybody on the Deepwater Horizen but them and there families are in my prayers, the shrimpers and fishermen in the gulf are in my prays, the $500 MILLION DOLLOR + RIG will be hard to replace. All the jobs lost because of the no drilling sentiment this will cause makes me concerned as my family was being effected before this. I have started working back overseas. The green people who are spewing so much If they are really concerned about the environment then they should park there gas hogs like the suburbans, they need to turn the power off there homes until they can get it converted to solor panels.

      • George E

        Ray,

        Thanks for your input. It’s good to hear from people who actually work in the oil and gas industry and know first-hand what’s really going on there.

      • JeffH

        Ray, Thank you,it’s always nice to have unbiased input from the hand on part of the “industry”.
        You’re correct, we all should take a little time to think about the brave men and women that took the risks with a tragic loss of life to make life a little more comfortable for us all.

      • marvin

        Ray well said when you have 98% of people that would not know the kelly from a chain guard and all they know is what the liberal press tells them 1st thing bushs fault or bp fault never mind it may have not been a accident and was man made there are people that hate us and want to do all the damage they can, i have never in my years of working on rigs saw a blow out preventer fail

      • Dave.

        I would suggest we start with “Prince Albert” himself – arguably the greatest offender in TN.

    • DaveH

      Barbara,
      You honestly believe that companies care nothing about risking their livelyhoods? If they have a major screwup, all the government fines heaped on them pale in comparison to the money they lose as a result of the accidents. You Liberals think Big Business people are bent on taking advantage of you (when they can’t even force you to buy their products) and then you blindly vote for Big Government which has a history of corruption, is operating on the money of many unwilling investors, and can force you to buy their products. Some logic.

    • angel-wanna-be

      JBird, damn, you said it before I did!

    • JLC

      Barbara, I am a retired engineer and, while I have never worked on a deep water oil rig, I have worked on a good many field jobs, so I can say this first-hand. Work of this sort is inherently dangerous, and the workers themselves know that full well — if they don’t, they are in the wrong business. Responsible employers take all possible safety precautions, not necessarily for humanitarian reasons (although, I’m sure, that, believe it or not, that does enter into it) but for economic reasons. Equipment is enormously expensive to replace, and lawsuits do not come cheap, either.

  • http://donthaveone Beberoni

    As I understand it, to “pump” this oil out, a large amount of seawater is pumped down to push the oil out, and then it still has to be pumped out to get it out. So how is this oil pumping itself out now that we are not sucking it out?

    • Leftie

      The oil is under pressure down there and that causes it to surge out of the ground. Seawater is pumped in maintain the pressure and refill the gap left by pumping the oil out.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Ok. Thank you for the explanation.

    • George E

      I’m pretty sure that wells that produce 5000 barrels a day, like this well, are generally under natural pressure so they flow without the need of a pump to suck the oil out of the ground. Wells like this one are rare in this country, because most of them here are fairly mature and have lost their natural pressure. They have to be re-pressured by injection of gas or water and pumped to get the oil out of the ground.

    • marvin

      Beberoni you ask i tell when you inject water it is called water flooding this is used after the natural gas pressure that will cause it to flow in the well has goin down to were it will not push the oil out salt water weight is around 12+lbs to gal oil at 4 to 5 lbs per gal so the oil is lighter there for will come to the top but my best guess is and i been their and done that there are multi wells on one platform and some may flow for years when you start injecting salt water you kill the gas pressure the well will stop flowing one more point salt water being heaver will go to bottom of the formation and push the oil to the top some formation are 2 ,3 foot thick to mabe say 30 ft thick some formation are vary porus and flow freely some are vary tite and have to be fracked with water and sand or nitrogen and sand the sand is for proping the formation open they most times put 500 to a 1000 gal of 15% hydrochloric acid to clean the well face up i can go on but i think you get the point

  • Robin from Arcadia, IN

    I don’t think anything should be ruled out until an investigation is completed. It certainly is suspicious.
    What is really unbelievable is how our current administration seemed so unconcerned. Men were killed and wildlife and sealife will suffer the brunt of this disaster. That is reason enough to be concerned!

  • http://donthaveone Beberoni

    It is hard for me to trust these “greenies”, who do things like pounding stakes into trees to save a nesting bird, and have the chain come off the chain saw and cut some guys arm off. Thats ok with them, just dont make the bird move. Or they burn up a fleet of SUV’s, releasing all kinds of toxins into the air, which are 10 times more than these vehicles could produce in their lifetime, so that these vehicle cant release toxins into the air. What kind of pretzel logic is that. They have burnt down people homes who built where they didnt want them to build, and have shown they have no respect for people or for nature, just for their agenda to make themselves feel like they are “saving the world”. They do much more damage than the rest of us in reality. I would not put it past them to have done this, as a means to promote their agenda, and if this is found out and the liberal media attempts to hide it, they need to be stripped bare, broken down and sold and not be allowed to operate by the people that operate them anymore.

  • Dooooontglas

    Well Doooooglas, no one said it had to have happened underwater. This is way too coincidental. ‘If’ it were a green whacko, they would have taken explosives onboard and done the job on the rig, not deep in the water. It probably wouldn’t have taken much dynamite or C4, in the right place, to cause this disaster.

    It is also possible that this was just an accident, but, WOW, the timing could not have been more perfect for the libtard whacko’s. Talk about providence.

    The only idiot here is the one who discounts a real possibility, Doooooglas.

  • http://none Jeryl

    Well, Doooooglas (or whatever), having worked offshore before finally finishing my college education and advanced degrees, I can tell you that such explosions are extremely rare and virtually impossible without human help. A couple of well-placed charges could do the job, though. No one said “robotic submarine.” It’s folks like you that have the corner on idiocy. My vote goes to sabotage.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Im wondering when the democrats are going to buy some air time, and go on ABC,NBC, CBS, CNN and MSNBC, and blame it on Bush. Seems like with them everything else is his fault, why not blame this on him too. Well, Bush, Cheney and Halliburton. Its all their fault, isnt it?

      • Leftie

        Actually Haliburton IS involved in this. And since they own GWB it probably is his fault. It’s a disaster. Yes, explosions are rare but that means they happen and so this was one of those rare occasions.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Yeah, Im sure your right. Haliburton, Bush and Cheney blew it up, under the cover of night, just to tick off the greenies and Al Gore. Do you realize how stupid you sound? These guys would be blamed by you, when nothing would give them any gain if this was true. Yet the greenies have much to gain if they did it, now wouldnt they. So it is either an innocent accident, or the greenies are getting meaner. But no Bush, no Cheney, no Haliburton involved in CAUSING this to happen. You miss the whole point, just like a lefty, burning in his agenda.

      • http://aol.com Pathfinder

        Actually, the liberals won’t have to buy airtime for this. They have willing accomplices in the Lamestream media who will broadcast their message for them for free. It is only conservatives who have to buy the airtime for their message. And even then the Lamestream media sometimes refuses to take our money and won’t broadcast our message regardless of how much they are offered.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        You are correct. They are the propaganda wing of the democratic party, no doubt.

      • marvin

        Beberoni only thing i see you may have wrong is on the buying time, the liberal press will never miss a chance to blame bush and build up O B A M A the all mighty the savior may god help us all if this liberal is the best we have to offer OBAMA FOR CHANGE and thats all we have left is change in our pockets wonder how that is working for them that lost their jobs that voted for obama

  • WarriorH

    Mine accidents, oil rigs disasters, jihadists, communists, socialists, corruption, looks to me like it’s time for All True Americans to roll up their sleeves, tighten their belts, dig in and get ready to perform some hard work. It’s fourth and goal.

    • Matt

      true! But most Americans don’t care, they would rather sit in their homes and watch tv while America disintegrates.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        You are right, as evidenced by the millions who watched some unknown guy buy millions of dollars of TV time, to say nothing more than change, change, change, and they voted for him. The power of the brain sucker in peoples living rooms to put ideas into their heads.

      • Rightwingrealist

        That’s right. The majority of American’s are stupid and gullible and it is only the uneducated yahoos who live in the south and midwest that really have any brains. Everybody that wants to have hope for a future of no needless wars or hope that a government isn’t run by Haliburton and corporate interests are all a bunch of idiots. If they knew anything they would know that America is all about owning as many guns as possible so you can overthrow the government is you need to and not paying taxes. Oh, the good old days of the 1950s when women stayed at home and minorities knew their place. You knew exactly who your enemy was, the commies. They were a great enemy, right? They don’t make em like that anymore. What I wouldn’t give to go back to those days.

      • DaveH

        In Typical Liberal fashion, you masquerade as something you are not (Right Wing). And you expect people to listen to anything you have to say?

      • JeffH

        A handfull in every crowd. Up early and off to work. What about the Northern crowd, with their expensive collection of guns, wives that won’t work, illegal aliens cleaning their homes and trimming their fine landscapes? Oh, I forgot, I meant liberals and no offense to the northern patriots. Some hunt for food and work and some just prefer to steal it all!

      • George E

        I get your sarcasm, but don’t think your insults add anything to the intelligent discussion of this topic.

      • JLC

        Rightwingrealist (I don’t really believe that, by the way) if you need a place to stay, I know where there is a padded cell for rent cheap.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        You got the gun part wrong pal. You own as many guns as you can to keep the government from becoming a left wing dictatorship, you know, the one that they deep down inside desire to be. Yeah, its kind of like that. Pacifist.

      • marvin

        Rightwingrealist you are wrong, i have lived all over this great country from north to south and east to west all are american all have the right to voice there opinion right or wrong with one or two exception like american liberal who is most likely here illegally,the people of the south and west are not as stuped as you think

      • Meteorlady

        I am so sick of profiling by the liberals. I LIVE IN THE SOUTH. I have a master degree and am not stupid. I don’t believe any of the crap you spew because you don’t support it with facts that I can personally verify.

      • libertytrain

        Meteor Lady – every time I go “up North” I still hear, while there, that Southerners are kind of a joke with the libs up there. Talk about racist – I have long ago come to the conclusion that Northern libs are truly the most uneducated racists and do not have any comprehension of what the South is, who her people are, not to mention some of the finest schools in the country are in the South.

      • Claire

        libertytrain– I know what you mean. I have a lot of relatives up North-some are die-hard liberals some are die-hard Republicans and almost all of them refer to southerners as rednecks. They even call me a southerner because of my “twang.” But they are teasing me, I hope.

      • Sidewinder

        Not me Matt!
        I’d rather be on the computer…

  • HFlashman

    If I didn’t think the writers of the article and the comments were serious, I’d be laughing at the hilarity of the propositio this was “sabotage”.

    In order to even begin to try and believe this, one has to accept that a well, hundreds of miles in the ocean, isolated, was approached by subversives who not only knew the outlay of the platform well enough to get around undetected…but also knew exactly what to do to cause a rupture which was uncappable.

    One also has to ignore BPs record for comlying with safety measures, BPs refusal to spend $500,000 to install a midline shutoff valve, BPs refusal to ever test the existing shutoff valve, and BPs record fines for safety non compliance on its offshore and on shore facilities.

    For anyone to even suggest that it could even be anything but a preventable accident with BPs operations being the source where all blame should be laid is ludicrous. Anyone who believes it was deliberate by the Green Movement has issues far and away beyond self medication.

    • Dooooontglas

      Yeah HFlashmaan, I’m sure you’d like to shut people down from thinking what could have happened by trying to make them seem crazy. But while I don’t know what really happened, the ability and reason to sabotage exists, and must be considered.

    • Sidewinder

      Well although I hesitate to jump on the sabotage bandwagon, its possible some green group had a guy working for BP on the inside, and who would know just what to do to sabotage the platform. That still seems a little far fetched to me, although not impossible.

      They probably rushed the cement seal job, or botched it somehow. Again, no real way to know before the facts are in, and even then, its doubtful the general public will be told everything.

      • TIME

        Oh Sidewinder, You jest, the American public will never know anything other than what they are told by the bent media who gets their storys straight off the special BarryO press, strange how he works that way.

        Thus BarryO’s crew will blame Al Bundy for this event, as his shoes were smelling so baddly that the rig just blew up on its own.

      • Pat R

        Sidewinder:

        You could very well be correct about an inside job! Money talks! If someone was paid a mega amount of $$$ to blow up that rig; I sure as hell hope he is one of the 11 missing and he is very “DEAD”

      • marvin

        Sidewinder back in my younger days i have worked on around a thousand oil and gas wells,some deep 15 to 20,000 ft some swallow ,and alot of them cemented by haliburton they take samples of the cement in cups from the time they start pumping to finish they use things like salt and calsum chloride and other thing to ether speed up curing or slow it down but the cups are set out for all to see and check for hardness i have never worked for them so i don,t have dog in the fight but the driller and tool pusher [over the drilling operation]say when to start work after a cement job so would i say haliburton is at fault possible yes likely no

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      You take out the equation that they worked and got one of their own employed there, like the sleepers our muslim enemies send over here, and they wait for the opportune time to do their dirty deeds. Im not saying it happened, but I do believe an investigation should be done on all aboard this thing, and make sure this didnt happen. The thing is, all of us have seen the dirty deeds these enviro’s are capable of, and it wouldnt be above them to blow up something like this, make an environmental disaster, which this truly is, then sit back and say “see oil is bad” which totally supports their agenda. I do not feel that it is too far fetched to think this way about the enviro’s. They are like the unions, in the beginning they were a good thing, then as they got too much power and clout, they went rotten and now are a scourge on society.

      • DaveH

        I’m not so sure, Beberoni, that “in the beginning they were a good thing”. I don’t consider it ever a good thing for people to force their desires on other people. Anything they do through Big Government is force.
        If they had the public behind them, they could easily use voluntary boycotts to bring any companies that were trashing the environment into line.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        I stand corrected, you are right.

    • raffer

      HFlashman, while I agree with most everything you say, for the record I must correct you. The platform was not hundreds of miles out. It was 40 miles off the coast of Venice, LA.

    • Fed Up Gal in NM

      Like the Greenies are innocent activists! Like they’ve never engaged in any radical activism to scare people into signing on to their agenda!

  • Doooooglas

    Yep. Sabotage. Those greenie weenies took their robotic submarine, went out there and rigged the well in mile deep waters.
    You people are idiots.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      The fire started on top dummy. The computers that control the blowout to seal it are operated up top dummy. You voted for Obama didnt you dummy.

    • Mary

      People who believe this could be sabotage are not idiots. They just know that too many things are ‘coincidental.’
      Always wait for the other shoe to fall when liberals appear to do something that might be good for this country, like oil exploration.
      With a liberal, arrogant Congress and President wanting to control every aspect of our lives, I expect more sabotage and not just at oil drilling sites.

      • chipshot

        I do not believe in coincidences. There is always a cause and effect. I have absolutely no doubt this was an act of sabotage but, unfortunately, we will most likely NEVER find out for sure. Any evidence, if any, would be in 5000 feet of water and would be very difficult to recover.
        Regardless, you can rest assured that the islamobama administration would stop at nothing to stop all off shore (and onshore) drilling. I can believe without a doubt they are responsible for this catastrophy. And I agree this is going to be only one of many to come before the November elections. Can you say “Martial Law”? Wait and see.

    • rick

      I have an even better one…George Bush rapelled down the elevator shafts of the WTC at midnight, dressed in a black SWAT team uniform listening to the Mission Impossible theme song through his mp3 and planted plasitc explosives. Or how ’bout this one…Air Force Stealth bombers flew into the 150 mph winds of Hurricane Katrina and blew up the levees holding back Lake Ponchartrain. Then there is always the diabolical Dick Cheney, head of the secret shadow government, conspiring to plunge the US into evil wars against innocent radical suicide bombers…

      • Tony

        Those are good!

      • TIME

        Rick,
        Your forgot the one about how Bat Man took 1/2 the worlds wealth in October 08, and hid it in a small box of bat poop.

        Let alone that BarryO has yet to figure it all out as he is just to smart, and after all Bat Man has a brid brain, so with that mass of gray wrinkles that BarryO has this could take some time to figure out!

        We should never jump to any conclusions, like calling the Police raciest, like BarryO had done now have many times?
        Or calling the people of New York – all just to stupidm thats for BarryO’s having US 1 fly low over New Your City for one of his fun filled games of chance. As the citizens stood in shock and cryed their eyes out yet again, all the while as BarryO’s was laughing his butt off thinking it was so funny!

        Hevens to Gotham City, the twisted twinkie’s will wither and die if they have to use their brains for TRUTH!

      • RL

        OR EVEN BETTER A BUNCH OF ARABS ARMED WITH A COUPLE OF BOX CUTTERS HIJACKED FOUR COMMERCIAL JETS WHILE THE AIR FORCE HELD TRAINING EXERCISES. THEN ONE OF THEM THREW HIS WALLET OUT THE WINDOW JUST BEFORE HIS PLANE HIT THE PENTAGON. AND THE THIRD TOWER AT THE WORLD TRADE CENTER COLASPED JUST SO THE TWO BIG ONE WOULDN’T GET “ALL” THE ATTENTION.
        MAN YOU HAVE SO GOT YOUR HEAD IN THE SAND.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Yeah, that and Haliburton funded all of them. The evil three. Gosh how the left hates these three. What did they complain about before these guys came along, and who will they chose next to place all their blame on? Hmmm. Makes me wonder.

      • pat

        just keep rolling down that river in Egypt-denial and ridicule don’t change the facts-it only changes YOU because as the facts become more obvious to more people-the truth does come out more and more and folks like you be careful when you go sailing that you don’t fall off the edge of our flat earth!

    • DaveH

      Yeah, DooDooGlas, and the Islamic Radical bombings are figments of our imaginations.
      I thought that you Liberals had open minds? If so, how could you possibly be calling people Idiots about possibilities of which you have no information?
      I wouldn’t put anything past people who would actively harass the lawful activities of others (whaling, etc.). And I wouldn’t put anything past people who brazenly steal the money of others (through Government) and think nothing of forcing their desires on others.

      • George E

        Dave,

        Also, these are people who are strongly ideologically driven, have a long record of activism to advance their objectives, and George Soro’s money to do whatever they want. It’s certainly possible, and we’d be fools not to be suspicious, but in the final analysis things like this usually only happen in Hollywood, not the real world. However, it does make a delicious conspiracy theory and will be a lot of fun to discuss until the facts prove what happened, one way or the other.

        In the meantime, we’ll certainly have to suffer the economic inconvenience of higher prices at the pump, in our homes, and for everything made from oil (plastics, medicines, building materials, paint, roofing materials, road toppings, etc, etc, etc.) because our politicians will shut down drilling in some of the most lucrative places to satisfy the public’s short term craving for environmental protection without the benefit of understanding how a decision like that will impact the other parts of their lives. This is a terrible “accident” and every reasonable effort should be made to prevent anything like it from happening in the future. However, the pain that will come to us from over reacting to this incident will surely cause more damage to human-kind than the ecological mess on Louisiana’s coastline. But making mistakes like this well disaster, and over reacting to it, is part of learning, I guess. In the end, the pendulum will swing back towards greater drilling, not less, but only after we’ve suffered the economic effects of this disaster sufficiently, and look at the economic effects realistically, to see the light.

        Ironically, our response to this disaster will just drive this country into financial insolvency all the quicker than the recently passed healthcare reform law does when added to the other social entitlement programs which we already can’t pay for. The car just speeded up prior to going over the cliff, so to speak. If everyone really understood that, I wonder if they’d be so ready to shut down drilling in this country? I really doubt it.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        George Fricking Soros, now there is a law abiding citizen. Not.

      • http://AMERICANVISION.ORG LEE

        ALL THE MORE REASON WE SHOULD BE GROWING HEMP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HENRY FORD NOT ONLY BUILT A CAR OF HEMP,HE MADE ITS FUEL OUT OF HEMP !!!!,HE WAS SMARTER THAN ALL OF US. LEE

      • George E

        You guys promoting hemp fuel crack me up. Do you really want to use it for fuel, or do you just want to legalize hemp so you can smoke it when you want?……ha.

      • DaveH

        I find it hard to believe that Government can talk to us about Freedom, and at the same time put people in jail for growing a plant. Especially after the history lessen of Prohibition.

      • pat

        tell that to the NWO 41 oil crowd who had hemp declared illegal back in Nixon’s time to up the ante on the illegal drug trade to pay for black ops and line their pockets–long ago, it used to be against the law in this country for farmers to NOT grow hemp–now that is illegal, and as i write, the same monsters that include Monsanto are trying to pass an international law that NO ONE can grow NONGMO food–my only question is will anyone survive this “ratsinasack” situation-

      • George E

        That may be, but you reduce the chance of getting hemp legalized for use as a fuel if you also try to legalize it as a drug, in my opinion. Keep the issues separate, and let the market decide if hemp fuel is a good way to go………..but I know I’m preaching to the choir here………ha.

      • Meteorlady

        Hello – Hemp is not for smoking usually – marijuana that is cultivated for that very purpose is for smoking. We already have hemp clothing – last time I tried I could not get it to smoke at all. It just burned up and went away.

      • Claire

        Meteorlady–When I was younger I did want to try pot but I was afraid. I was afraid I would go nuttier than a fruitcake so I abstained!! I was truly afraid I would “damage” my brain! lol

      • Dave.

        It isn’t just a matter of things made of oil; it’s the fact that everything you use and have is “trucked” wherever it goes!

      • American Citizen

        Their minds are so open their brains fall out.

      • American Citizen

        Or they use the other one, you know, the one they sit on.

      • Independent

        Don’t you know that if you have an open mind, there is a distinct danger of your brain falling out?

      • TIME

        Lets all call – Chuckiee Cheese Schummer really fast so he can get on TV and tell us how our brains may get hurt if we have open minds.

        Perhaps he can bring hb;00000.0000.1 – so that congress will pass a law that we all will have to wear duck tape around our heads with a special rubber padding to avoid any thoughts – and or open minds that may get dammaged brains from their being open.

        After all a bird may just drop a load on that open mind.
        And we just can’t have that now can we!

        Oh wait I think I hear Old uncle Joe – yea thats uncle Joe, he said it is a big Blanking deal!
        So lets get bussy with that duck tape and rubber padding.

  • angel-wanna-be

    Waaayyy Tooo coincidental!__A State of the art oil platform blows up, not long after President Obama says, “He’s open to offshore drilling exploration”??__Just too coincidental, not to be sabotage.

    • Sidewinder

      Well I think its just way too soon to rush to judgement before all the facts are in. The article only raises sabotage as a possibility. It is possible.

      My guess is they rushed the well into operation and got sloppy. What ever the reason, it will surely play into the hands and agendas of the Greens for sure.

      • Bones

        Your full of S–t !

      • Sidewinder

        OK…we SHOULD rush to judgment BEFORE the facts are in.

      • Bones

        The fact is no other platform off our coast has been destroyed like this one.
        All our President can yep about is the oil being spilled out into the ocean. All out media can yep about is the enviromental damage it is doing they could care less as to what actually happen to the rig, Or the 11 men that died. The fact is they don’t care. Can you see the differance in this coverage and that of the Goal Miners, it’s big!
        The fact is Obama knows more then he is letting on and that is our problem we have an Idiot that is President and can’t make a decision.
        If I was president and North Korea was behind this ! I would turn thier country into a sand box !

      • DaveH

        What is ironic to me is that BP (formerly British Petroleum) has been running ads of TV for years bragging how Green they are. Incidentally, so are many other companies. Now why would that be unless they sense a powerful political movement that they don’t want to get on the wrong side of?

      • Bones

        Try Cap and Trade bill and paying for you Carbon footprint ! All these big Corporations are kissing Obama’s ass because that bill is lingering in Congress.
        I guess BP didn’t pay enough money so someone blew them up? I wouldn’t put nothing past these enviromental idiots. The main thing they are after is your money and that is a fact!

    • Dave

      How can you even pretend to be sure that it’s sabotage. Even Chip Wood, who would LOVE for this to be sabotage by the “radical left wing” is only alluding to the possibility that it could be. Don’t be so quick to blame everything on the left. Do you really just take Halliburton at their word that it wasn’t their fault? They would never admit any fault even if they were caught red handed. Yes, it’s a coincidence but it is most likely just that. The reason the press isn’t all over why is happened is because no one knows why yet and because the disaster that is unfolding is much more of an immediate danger.

      • http://www.boblivingstonletter.com/ Bob Livingston

        Dear Dave,
        Just an FYI: This was written by John Myers, not Chip Wood.
        All the best,
        Bob

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Bob,
        Thanks for the clarification,I thought I was going nuts with all these comments directed at Chip. I guess when you hate, it’s easier to ignore source!!!

      • American Citizen

        In my mind, it’s also coincidental that it happened soon after the blast in the mine. With all the crimes the greens have committed to foster their agenda, I wouldn’t put it past them. They don’t care who they hurt with their ignorance. Just look at the loggers that have been injured by the greens with their putting spikes into trees. Trees are a renewable resource. Some are grown for specific purposes such as for making paper. The logging companies replace trees they log with saplings. Forests need to be thinned occasionally to prevent the rapid spread of fires.

  • http://verizon kbab777

    Of course it is sabotage, the greens are criminals too and they are so passionate about their cause they will go the limit for the good of their cause And if it waddles like a duck and quacks like a duck then it is a duck.

    • Bones

      I think your dead on about the sabotage. Think about this how many have ever blown up ? None that I can remember.
      The thing about Obama releasing Oil drilling leases is also a farce the areas he release didn’t have any oil on them.

      • Rubee

        THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW DRILLING RIGS THAT SUNK, OR CAUGHT FIRE IN THE NORTH SEA IN YEARS PAST WITH THE LOST OF LIFE NOT SURE WHO WAS OPERATEING THEM

      • USA Jim

        Rubee – Please site facts to support your claim. Do some research, and include links. Otherwise, unsubstantiated claims read as fiction.
        I can unequivocally state that I have never heard of any oil rigs that have caught fire or sank, but that doesn’t prove or disprove the truth. Nor does using ALL CAPS change the facts either.

        I have been asking the question, “What happened” since the first time I saw the Oil Rig burning, and I find it chilling that I’ve not even see FOX reporting along these lines.

        Here is an article that I have yet to find any corroboration, but it’s the only thing I have found:
        http://whatdoesitmean.com/index1367.htm

      • Fed Up Gal in NM

        USA Jim,

        I have family in La, and my brother works on one of these platforms in the Gulf, so this hits close to home. I agree with John Myers about the media putting more emphasis on the environmental concerns, than on the loss of human life that occured.

        Who would ever want to believe such a horrific plan could be hatched? I certainly don’t want to, but if we’re willing to be honest….I think we must look at all possibilities.

        Thanks Jim, for including the link. When I first started reading it…I thought…no way, not even logical….by the time I finished reading it….the more convinced I became….that it is plausible…so nothing should be off the table, as far as investigating who/what/when/where and why.

      • Propaganda

        So you are worried these oil companies will get hammered, and then liquidate all your stocks immediately and who will buy them the banksters. Hillary said. “Don’t waste a good crisis.“ Our crises are the elite’s opportunities.

        Dems urged you to sell all BP and Halliburton stocks’s, and they give you worthless paper. Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan CHASE Bank etc ……. are now STOCKING oil reserves OIL, and they are HUNGRY for oil and YOUR oil stocks…… They want to buy your oil for pennies on the dollar.

      • Propaganda

        Since Obama suspended plans to expand offshore oil drilling on April 30, and banks are stocking, Oil will skyrocket, and shouldn’t you keep these stocks?

        Mark Levin said Obama administration sent SWAT Teams Response To Oil Spill Is a “Government Takeover Plot.” He said, basically the response was a precursor to government nationalization of the oil
        industry via the back door.

        Rahm Emanuel (White House Chief of Staff to Barack Obama): “You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. And what I mean by that is an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before.”

      • t4

        here’s something from theatlantic.com. “Halliburton was also responsible for cementing a well off the coast of Australia that blew last August, leaking oil for ten weeks before it was plugged.”

        it has happened before – no real surprise.

      • Tim

        Awsome take. I suspected sabotage at first, and I have been wondering all allong why the media just won’t ask why this happened. It seems like just a conspiracy theory but this does make allot of sence.

      • Marc

        Links to oil rig fires/sinkings:

        oilrigdisasters.co.uk/

        http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/0320-02.htm

      • Marc

        Doesn’t really look like th Dai Hong Dan would have been in the area at the time…..should be easy enough to track.

        http://www.digital-seas.com/vessel_search/vessel_details/on/hmyc_dai_hong_dan_q2026794.html?tx_fleetmonportal_pi1%5Bposition%5D=1

      • denniso

        I know the righties won’t believe it, but sane people will. Cheny allowed the oil industry to block a mandate for using an automatic close off valve for just such an incident…the valve costs $500,000 and the industry complained that it cost too much and they already had fail safe equipment in place so that a major spill couldn’t ocurr.
        Estimates for the damage caused to the coast and loss to the coastal economy are already up to $14 billion. Great special deals that Cheny made w/ the oil industry.

        look it up…

      • George E

        Hi Denniso,

        I haven’t taken time to check your facts, so I’ll work from logic alone.

        First, we don’t’ know what caused this spill, so we don’t really know if an emergency shut-off value or blow-out preventer (BOP), or several such devices would have prevented this spill. I read at least one post from an industry insider that suggested the spill might be coming from around the outside of the casing (pipe). If this is plausible, and I really don’t know if it is but does sound reasonable to me, the cause might be that the well wasn’t cemented properly. This could point to Halliburton’s service, or instructions given Halliburton by one of BP’s engineers.

        Second, it really would surprise me to find out that BP voluntarily chose to not use a blow out preventer or emergency shut-off valve on this well. Heck, these wells cost a bloody fortune to drill and maintain anyway, not to mention the cost of bad publicity and decreased valuation of the company if/when a disaster like this occurs. So, the total cost of a problem like this dwarfs the cost of one of these valves. It seems to me that BP and other such companies have sufficient incentive to take steps to try to prevent spills. In other words, I would expect a well managed company to see the risks of not using one of these valves as too high for the cost involved. So, if it is discovered that they didn’t use a BOP or emergency shut-off valve and that would have eliminated or significantly reduced this spill, the management behind that decision should be fired and prosecuted, especially if the only reason for doing this was to save $500,000. But that just doesn’t seem plausible to me. However, we’ll find out, eventually.

      • denniso

        GeorgeE…we may never find out if a automatic shutoff would have prevented this, given the complications. And you’re wanting to believe that a well run, responsible company wouldn’t make such a poor decision is frankly naive. All industry has fought regulation and gov’t controls in regard to safety of workers and environmental impact since the beginning of the effort to protect both…they do it as a matter of course because they see every regulation as costing them money…much as the auto companies fought against mandated seatbelts for years. Can you imagine them fighting against something so obviously necessary and cheap? But they did.
        I don’t know how many wells BP has that would have been affected by a mandate for automatic shutoffs, but imagine the number is 100, probably more. 100 shutoff valves at $500,000 ea is a large enough number to start to notice…$50 million.
        We need to realize as well that this sort of incident apparently hasn’t happened, so the company deludes itself into believing it can’t happen ever…dumb, but very similar to our financial collapse that most of the financial whizzes like Greenspan for one, though could never happen.

      • Meteorlady

        D – do you use oil? Do you encourage getting the Bakken going? Or do you just sit on these sites and blame blame blame? How much do you want to spend on oil? How much do you want gas to appreciate until you can’t afford to purchase gas for your vehicles? What’s wrong with Natural Gas? Is it Cheny’s fault that we don’t have that for our vehicles? No, it’s collusion between the oil companies and car manufacturers.

      • George E

        Denniso,

        Let me see if I can boil this down. I’m saying this disaster may or may not have been BP’s fault while you’re saying it was BP’s fault. From that, you say I’m naive. Well, that may be, but if that’s true, I think you should admit that you’re biased since you’ve predetermined the results before the facts are in. Have a nice day.

      • Tim

        Denniso. OK where do I look this up?
        Until then, I must go with the question,”since when does the vice president get to ‘allow’ anything?” The president is the one with the power of veto. the VP gets squat. The way our three part gov works is as follows. The legislature (the senate and congress) draws up the bill, the laws, the Supreme Court then questions the consitutionality of it and if it passes, the president then either vetoes it or signs it into law. Yes the president and vice president can suggest what they want and call it what they want, like “Obama’s health care plan” but it is the legislature who writes the law, not the v.p. And don’t hand me “executive decision”, thank you. It’s up to congress to allow the pres the power of executive decision, like when they voted to give Bush the power of executive desision in the Iraq and Afganistan wars.
        You should have paid attention in high school when they were teaching political science instead of burnin’ a fatty!

      • denniso

        Tim…sure you’ve got to be personally derogatory, I expect that…but do you really not know that Cheny was the real power behind the Bush presidency? And do you really not know that the different gov’t agencies set regulations and procedures for many industries? The Bush administration had every gov’t agency from the EPA to FDA to SEC and the FCC back off on their role of regulating the businesses under their purview…so all Bush or Cheny did was direct their agencies to go easy on the businesses…don’t tell me that you really don’t know that happened under Bush. They made a point of broadcasting the idea that biz is too regulated and they sided w/ biz against gov’t regs…you’d better do some actual reading and turn off Fox and Limbaugh.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        dennislow,
        The man asked for your source, not a bunch of gobbeldygook!!!!

    • Dan2

      This is almost believable; NORTH KOREA TORPEDOES OIL WELLS with the silence from the news media.http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1367.htm

      NORTH KOREA TOPEDOES OIL WELL

      http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1367.htm

      Global elitists are out to destroy the US to bring it into submission of NEW WORLD ORDER. This right/ left arguing is the division they want while they whittle away your lifestyle. Their chips are “all in” and expect more calamities to come. Weather warfare is going to be their big tool through the HAARP system, and the CHEMTRAILS being sprayed on us in the skies. These are a few of the signs of the times, and if you don’t believe that, just wait a little longer.

      • http://N/A Dan3

        In this day and time, big stakes, big changes i would have to agree-with you!

      • Lynette

        Dan2……I agree with you 100%……..I wouldn’t be surprised if our good ole government itself wasn’t involved in this….the biggest terrorists we need to be afraid of are not foreigners, but our very own government!!

      • Tim

        Uhhhhhhh, like wow man! Like conspiracy theory man. But it does make sence. I want to know why the rig blew up and why nobody is even questioning it.

      • Marc

        Doesn’t really look like th Dai Hong Dan would have been in the area at the time…..should be easy enough to track.

        http://www.digital-seas.com/ve…..ition%5D=1

    • Hugh Jordin

      I am hardly a Greenie, but this is ridiculous. This is tantamount to blaming the Illuminati for the financial crisis.

      Off shore drilling technology is extremely complex using very sophisticated technology. Expecting oil rigs to run flawlessly forever is a silly as expecting your car to run perfectly without any parts failing for 500,000 miles.

      The rig just failed. “green sabotage” is about as real as the tooth fairy.

      • Th3D3adM3ssenGer

        Oh but of course… government systems NEVER use destruction to advance their agenda. They are incapable of being deceptive. It just can’t happen that would be too scary and I might have to start wearing diapers for when I piss myself all day watching the control system systematically rape the Soul of Humanity. Your government loves you and would NEVER do anything to harm you or your environment. Go watch American Idol and go back to sleep. Your government will take care of you. EVERYTHING is under control…

      • denniso

        You and some of these others sound mentally ill…This article is a bad joke. Come on Meyers…you’re reduced to using Limbaugh as corroboration? That’s the funniest and most ridiculous part of your article. And you want to see sabotage by environmentalists as a plausible thing when it’s environmentalists trying to protect nature. What a foolhardy leap w/ absolutely NO evidence or rational explanation. This is how the rightwing,like you and Limbaugh warp the ‘news’ and misinform the public. This sort of ‘journalism’ is disgusting and does a huge diservice to the country trying to solve real problems. Pathetic!!!

      • http://none Jeff

        I agree that all possibilities should be looked at and who knows maybe there is someone sick enough out there to have done this. They would not be an environmentalist if they did it but someone who is mentally ill.
        What is more likely is that we are all responsible for our dependence on oil and obtaining it at all costs perhaps. It was bound to happen sooner or later.
        It is convenient for Livingston to suspect it was a terrorist and not have to shoulder any responsiblitily for supporting the policy of drill baby drill. Has Livingston ever recieved money from companies that make money from the oil industry or the industry itself? If he has, I would suggest that he has an agenda and a bias. Whether he is right or wrong the repercussions of the worst U.S. environmental disaster in history will be felt for a long time. We all share culpability for accepting oil companies at their word that this could not happen. We are responsible for the death of thousands of animals from possibly hundreds of species and the livelihood of thousands of people. Maybe it would be prudent to put the onus back on companies to prove their businesses are safe and bring back some of the watered down regulations or get used to ecological disasters including the repercussions that are “coming down the pipe” with our footdragging on the prevention of climate change.

      • denniso

        Good comment…i thought you were JeffH, but no, he wouldn’t make a reasonable comment like that.

      • George E

        Guys,

        What is “reasonable” is in the eyes and minds of the beholder. Livingston implies that this disaster might have been caused by eco-terrorists given that some demented person within that group might figure out it is better overall for the environmental movement (in his/her small mind) to cause one major disaster like this to shut down offshore drilling forever. Hopefully, this is not the case, but the story might make a good movie for Hollywood to consider…..

        You are implying that the oil companies are wreckless and will take unnecessary risks because they don’t care if these kinds of spills occur so long as they make more profit by keeping their costs of drilling and production down. Again, this “could” happen, and might make another good movie, but it’s very hard for me to see how a responsible company would take chances like this in their normal course of doing business. Logic tells me that if this was the case, we’d see a lot more disasters like this.

        So, while both cases are possible, neither seem particularly probable to me. I’m more inclined to believe this accident was caused by human error at the operator or engineer level than something management did to improve profit margins. And, while oil companies are not usually found marching in the streets on behalf of the environmental movement, they are environmentalists as well. For that matter, we all are. Absolutely NO one wants to screw up our planet’s environment like this. Have you heard anyone say this disaster was a good thing? If we do, then I’d be very suspecious that that person or group sees some benefit and thereby may be responsible for this mess in some way, or potentially capable of causing something similar in the future.

        Please don’t jump to conclusions before the facts are in, and after that let’s support solutions that fix the real cause, not some preconceived notion or political agenda. Otherwise, we and others who think like we do, could be accused of benefiting from this disaster, and we know that’s not what we want.

      • denniso

        George…you’ve made a reasonable comment w/ too many suppositions in it. ‘Responsible company’?? Businesses make a bottom line calculation that comes down to money when they look at risk…they have to. They don’t look at what’s best for the environment, they really can’t…that’s why we have gov’t regulations to try and force that into their operations. They decided, w/ the help of Cheny/Bush, that the risk of a blowout under water was worth saving $500,000/rig for an automatic shutoff that would have prevented this catastrophe. They deemed the risk to be minimal as they stated in their environmental impact statement, that their drilling/pumping procedure was ‘failsafe’.

        There are something like 550 large oil spills a year around the world. Remember the Exxon Valdez?? There is nothing ‘failsafe’ about this kind of operation and the companies lie to the people about it in the interest of larger profits. Exxon made the largest profit for an American company last year.

        Wild speculation about the possibility of sabotage came from our ‘journalist’ Limbaugh, the master of deceit and misinformation…why not speculate that aliens could have done it? Or maybe it was the alignment of the planets? Wild speculation is hogwash that only distracts from the ongoing disaster, and Limbaugh and the writer of this article know that very well.

      • George E

        Denniso,

        I’ve worked for three different corporations over my career, in both management and professional positions. These companies would not have put environmental concerns above all others, but they never wanted to get into trouble that would bring negative publicity to their company. If they did, customers and investors would punish them severely, not to mention endless legal costs and aggrevation. They may not have liked government regulations, but these companies always tried to abide by them and tried to operate within the framework of the law. So, given my experience and observations over the years, I’m just not inclined to think BP or any other major company would wrecklessly do things that would hurt their company. That doesn’t mean that I don’t think they make mistakes. They do. I’ll just be very surprised if this turns out to be a major systematic foul up on the part of their management. But, like I said, anything can happen, and as long as “Murphy” is alive, sooner or later it will. Hopefully, we’ll find out the cause of this spill in the not too distant future. Then we’ll know for sure. In any case, we should learn from our mistakes and move on, not abandon further offshore drilling and production, in my opinion.

      • denniso

        All businesses take calculated gambles on a variety of issus. If BP didn’t have the $500,000 automatic shut off valve to avoid a large spill in the event of major failure, then they were making the bet that an event like this is rare enough to save some big money and take the chance. They stated in their application for drilling that they had ‘failsafe’ technology and procedures…sure.

      • http://N/A Dan3

        God Doesan’t make little green apples either. If you believe what you said you must work for them.

      • Meteorlady

        Green sabotage…… hey you must have missed the bombings at the University of Washington by the green terrorists, or lets see – putting stakes in trees so loggers will be killed or maimed. There are numerous other disasters associated with them so I won’t bore you. Not saying they did it, but they are certainly capable and there are criminals among them.

      • Gary

        I have worked in the oil and gas industry for many years and i agree that equipment fails from time to time. With that being said the offshore drilling regulation are very strict, well control devices have back ups and those back up have backups. I’m very suspicious about this accident or not. Thier are far more coincidence than explanations, and were did this artical about the sub come from. I’m sure it will all surface in time, I fear it may be to late. Obama and thet Greenies dont understand what they would do to this country by cuttung off our oil supply, or do they?

    • http://none Alex

      More Teabagger nonsense—You people are not looking at the real picture.
      The disaster in the Gulf was quickly taken of of every major news outlet on Saturday. Why? So that we might spend all day watching a bombsquad dismantle a FAKE bomb that was never going to blow up! This is what the White Estates of America ALWAYS does—replace anty disturbing news with a FAKE story. The FAKE Gulf of Tonkin “incident”, the FAKE “blowing up” of the SS Maine—we manufacture and direct news focus in order to keep the S.S. Capitalist Creep afloat. THERE WAS NO BOMB!! It was all a ruse to take our attention away from the dying turtles. Man, I hate this country SO MUCH!!

      • http://Newsmax Jeff

        Iran is a good place for you to immigrate to, or maybe Mexico. Your leaving the US would be a good thing since you hate it so much.

      • Th3D3adM3ssenGer

        ALex… try and remember not to hate the country, but the idiots allowing it and causing it to fall to shit. Channel your anger, young Jedi, and use it against the darkness. The Soulution is to spread the Truth that you obviously have found… the theater of mind manipulation.

      • http://none Alex

        Thank you for pulling me back down again–sometimes Eye do get a bit worked up!

      • http://N/A Dan3

        Nothing Wrong with the country, but values.

      • http://personalliberty.com RChick

        Alex:

        If you hate this country so much, why not leave? Good bye!

      • Charles Hargis

        Alax

        If you hate this country SO MUCH i’ll buy you a ticket out of the US if you will give up your citizanship and not come back.
        I do wonder how long it would be before you would hate their country and want to come back,but will be on the no fly list.
        Be carful hate will eat you alive.

      • Meteorlady

        Ewe – immigrate to Argentina or Venezuela, they need more liberal minded lock step people.

      • Dave.

        Why are you still here?? There are plenty of other places to go – perhaps they won’t be as “tolerant” as the USA

    • pat

      i would suggest that OF COURSE this was eco-terrorism but i think most of the comments don’t go high enough up the line-the bad boys in the back room are at war WITH EACH OTHER-the NWO drill baby drill people that INCLUDES near the top of this gang, Halliburton and Cheney -who by the way have a terrible reputation for lousy safety and crass misconduct in this cementing process. The other rat in the sack is BP–the euro illuminati branch of the boys in the back of which British Petroleum is a big part-and the latter apparently liable financially for the disaster–and then you have Obama who seems to have been “placed” in office by the NWO people-see his obscure birth,education, and work history that leads back to oil money–texas and saudi–but who by his affect and conduct seems to hate his handlers and honor the euro faction, and seems to be trying to play one side against the other-anyway, this is the set up–BOTH SIDES WIN BIG ON THIS ONE and the sentient beings of the earth lose BIG-with this disaster–BP will weasle out of all but token liability payments-and gas prices will skyrocket, Halliburton will gain more power and money because they will likely make HUGE sums of money by pretending to be able to clean up the mess–the same position they have held in all wars since the first gulf war under 41 and again all sentient beings will suffer–and if Obama is not careful–he will not make it thru this time alive unless there is divine intervention–or demi-divine aka gallactic intervention by service to others Law of One type folks, not the service to self conquer and kill kind-who i believe have been behind the NWO gangsters and banksters-speaking of whom–who wins the most is the banksters–GoldmanSachs-has cleaned up on short selling the deal(gee, ya think they had advance knowledge of this,huh maybe?)THEY MADE THE MOST IMMEDIATE MONEY–guess they needed a few extra bucks to cover the mosquito bite by the SEC.but the grand godfather of evil at the top of this pyramid i believe is JPMORGANCHASE–so this is my 2 cents on the subject.

    • richard

      100%correct!

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