One thing articles like this always forget to say is that ALL gun dealers at gun shows MUST file the same papers there as they do at their shops. Individuals can sell guns without the papers but the dealers who are at tables cannot. On the other hand, individuals can sell guns without papers any time they wish, whether at a gun show or somewhere else. Further, if anyone at a gun show offered me money to buy a gun there for them, I would make a beeline to the nearest security person, usually an off-duty police officer, and point them out. But that seldom if ever happens. Finally, the government – meaning the gun control people – are not supposed to use the papers from the shops to make a list of who owns guns and who doesn’t. Yet that seems to be their total focus – which is against the law.

Beware, these directed attacks by Daly and Bloomberg will affect all of us, gun owners and non-gun owners. Each time a small piece of everyones freedom is dismantled, it opens the door to more pieces of your freedom to be removed untill all freedoms have been crumbled. Gun sales and ownership is just one a part of all freedoms. It affects everybody!

Daly is just a part of Michael Bloomberg’s and MAIG’s Deceptive “Gun Show Loophole” campaign with HR 2324. Moreover, Daly, Bloomberg and MAIG aren’t telling the whole story about the bills they support to “close the gun show loophole”—H.R. 2324 (Rep. Michael Castle, R-Del.) and S. 843 (Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J.). Both bills contain provisions that would drive gun shows out of business:

H.R. 2324 would impose a “vendor” requirement with which no one could comply. Both bills define “vendor” to include any gun show customer who brings a firearm to a show—even to sell it to a dealer—or who doesn’t bring a firearm, but who mentions to someone at a show that he might be interested in selling a firearm. H.R. 2324 would require show operators to notify the Attorney General, in writing, no later than 30 days in advance of the show, of the name of every “vendor.” Of course, there is no way that a show promoter can know 30 days (or 30 seconds) in advance who is going to attend a show, who might bring a firearm to sell, or who might talk with someone about selling a firearm.
Both bills seek to register gun owners. Because of how the bills define “vendor,” a gun show promoter would be forced to have everyone who attends a show sign the ledger. And the bills require that the “vendor” ledgers be available to BATFE inspectors. Many privacy-conscious Americans would refuse to sign a ledger just to walk around a show, and that would reduce gun show attendance.
Both bills would require registration of gun shows. S. 843 would additionally allow the Attorney General to charge an unspecified fee for registering a gun show. The power to set prohibitively expensive fees is the power to destroy, of course.
Both bills would authorize the BATFE to conduct warrantless inspections of the required “vendor” (customer) ledger and all records of licensed firearm dealers while dealers are at shows to conduct business. Normally, recordkeeping compliance inspections are conducted at prearranged times, when convenient. The warrantless inspection requirement would allow interruptions of dealers while they’re in the middle of conducting business, which would discourage them from participating in shows

points to consider include:

Gun shows account for a very small percentage of criminals’ guns. The largest study of the subject ever conducted by the federal government found that only 0.7 percent of prison inmates who had used guns, had obtained their guns from gun shows. Another federal study found only 1.7 percent of federal prison inmates obtained their guns from gun shows.4 A earlier study found less than two percent of criminals’ guns came from gun shows. An FBI study of criminals who attacked law enforcement officers found “None of the [criminals’] rifles, shotguns, or handguns … were obtained from gun shows or related activities.” Ninety-seven percent of guns in the study were obtained illegally.
Under federal law, it is illegal to “engage in the business” of “dealing in firearms” (buying and selling firearms as a regular business with the objective of profit) without a federal license. Violations carry a five year prison sentence and a $250,000 fine.

Firearm sales have been increasing and the nation’s murder rate is at a 45-year low

http://www.nraila.org/Issues/FactSheets/Read.aspx?id=260&issue=014

You still have to undergo an instatnt background check to buy a gun at a gunshow. When will the media start telling the whole story, instead of the sound bites that are designed to mislead.

Eddie, look at the crime rate in any country that has severe gun laws, or if they are passed. Canada, Australia, and England passed gun laws and crime had a run away. I think it is Swiss, that every house has a automatic rifle and ammo. Of course it is the democrat and Chicogo way, take everyone’s gun and regulate who owns them, except criminals, and when the fan is running full blast it will be too late. The muslim Omoron knows he doesn’t want his finger prints or recording of being anti-gun. Of course it was never exposed or brought up by media mutts, if he packed a gun when he wasd dealing and using drugs. We have more deaths due to not carring, than we do carring a gun. Ft. Hood is a good example, if the muslim had went down hard , think of the money we would of saved and waste of court room time, and jail space. Still wonder why the nut job McVeigh was tried and disposed of soo quickly, when we have killer that wait decades to croak, Simce the French give crimminal a trail and dispose of convict in a couple or the same day, Since dems and the muslims like the EU so much, lets adopt it. Of course the socialist dems would lose so many illegal voters!

I see nothing wrong with background checks at the gun shows. It keep the criminals away from them which is a good. Also, what is wrong with an individual who owns a gun reporting to the authorities that he/she has sold it. That way, if it’s ever stolen from whoever owns it, the original owner will not be hassled. They don’t have to say to whom they sold them, just that they no longer own them. Mayor Daley, as well as some antis, need to get their facts straight.

I fail to see the difficulty in understanding our for-fathers. It’s like the bible, either you believe they’re words are authenicated and live by them or you do what the progressives have done and render them meaningless. Remember you can’t serve two masters.. Love god and country, embrace truth everything else is a lie..

The article as written is incorrect; there is NO gap in federal law. Any dealer, selling at any gun show in America is required to perform an FBI background check, the same as if the sale took place in his or her store or business. Federal law does not stop at the door. What the liberal gun-grabbers want to do is to stop the LAWFUL sale/exchange between private citizens which does not and NEVER has required any background check. In most cases, their so-called “closing the gun show loophole” rhetoric includes further restrictions on exchanges between friends and even family members; their dream is to have EVERY private exchange subject to a government check/approval. In their world, if a father wants to bequeath his favorite shotgun to his son in his will, the son would have to undergo a background check. The instant background check regulations were NOT intended to track private transactions, only those through licensed dealers. Period.

PS: Anyone care to guess which Washington politician originally coined the phrase “close the gun show loophole”?
ANSWER: JOHN McCAIN. He gave the liberals the best slogan in recent history.

As long as guns filter down to the misfits of the world there will be a need for gun laws (for and against).Even the 2nd Admendment is a gun law. This nation is awash in weapons so criminals have a “candy store” to choose from. One side wants to water down the 2nd Admendment and the other side says anything goes. Neither side is very responsible to me.

I’m sure obama will use this as his next “crisis”.
A crisis meaning that obama steps in and the guns get tossed out.
Alinsky said “don’t let a crisis go to waste”.. I’m a firm believer that this is also obamas mind-set.

There isn’t any vague interpretation of the Second Amendment as far as I’m concerned.

I signed my name on the dotted line to “preserve,protect & defend the Constitution of the United States against ALL enemies both foreign & domestic,so help me GOD”!

Those who feel otherwise need to ask themselves:When the you know what hits the fan,who ya gonna call:Hillary &Bill,Obama,Schumer &Feinstein,Bloomberg&Daley,etc?

As Charlton Heston said:”From my cold dead fingers!”

It’s just another government scam to take away more of our constitutional rights. While they would claim to close a “loophole” they would actually end up taking away the people’s rights to own guns at all. The criminals would be armed and the people would have no way to protect themselves.

Global Poverty Act, Millenium Development Goals…brought to you by the thugs at the UN, and our merry band of socialist/communist tyrannists.

There is “no” loop hole, all weapons sold at gun shows are background checked. I guess these fools and liars are the same people who support Obama. They get some wrong opinion firmly lodged in their small intellect, and that’s it.

This garbage of a “loophole” is still a legal option to sell a firearm to another individual. There still is the requirement of that State’s driver’s license to be presented and copied down by the seller. You can call it a loophole, you can call it a pink pony, but it’s a legal way to sell a firearm from one owner to another. If it’s a dealer, they have to possess a FFL or C&R license. By comparison, the NHTSA figures for auto death in 2007 is over 40,000, but you don’t have “loophole” lies about Craigslist, eBay, AutoTrader, or the guy next door selling an auto.

There is no such thing as a gunshow loophole. If a dealer sells
a gun, he has to have the paperwork that shows to whom he sold it.
That is federal law. Only an individual is allowed to sell their
gun without a background check.. and that is because they have no
access to the firearms database.
I have purchased handguns from gun shows and I get the usual paperwork
and phone database check.
The gunshow loophole is a myth.

I’m surprized obama did not side with Daley.
Well he won’t in a public way but he will with the small arms treaty hiliary is working on.

Daley, Bloomberg and that ilk are nothing but American version of the Nazi called Adolf Hitler. All of the bottom-feeding politicians from Hitler, Mussolini, Tojo, and Stalin to the Bloombergs want to render each and every honest, law-abiding American citizen helpless when the Nazi Brown Shirts come for them. Do not forget that Hitler was a SOCIALIST just like Daley, Bloomberg and that ilk. If law-abiding citizens are deprived of their weapons, the Blacks and Browns of the Daley and Bloomberg parties will take over, stealing, raping and robbing, and murdering. There is only one thing that prevents the Blacks and Brown Shirts from entering the neighborhoods of honest Americans and that is the knowledge they will be met by deadly pistol and rifle fire!

Why are so many Americans, so woefully ignorant of the greatness that is our country and Constitution?

Including, it seems, most of our elected officials.

We are headed for anarchy and chaos. You will know when it is close when the door knocks start and out and out confiscation of our guns begins.

For goodness sakes fellow citizens, turn off your freaking Iphones and wake the heck up before it is too late, if it isn’t already.

Feel good in the knowledge that the oppressive government and
the criminals, will still have their guns. What a Utopian world that will be! end sarcasm

People will always get firearms no matter what. but, this is part of the Obama agenda. he’s doing it through the U.N. small arms treaty, pretty sneaky of him. they can’t have my guns, but they can have my bullets one at a time.

The picture the anti gunners want to create is that a gun dealer can sell guns at a gun show to anyone without doing a background check. This is not true. If you buy a gun from a dealer, you will undergo a background check. The issue here is an individual selling a private firearm who has no ability to do a background check on the person who wants to buy his gun, effectively preventing you from selling a firearm to anyone. Just another example of a bureaucrat controlling your life while ignoring the Constitution. There will always be criminals and they will have guns no matter what. They will not give up their guns just because there is a law that says it’s illegal to own them. That only leaves the law abiding citizen with no way to defend himself against corrupt politicians and criminals.

since our slugs in D.C. won’t defend us or our country who left too do the job US AN ONLY US. YES I OWN A GUN AND WILL KEEP IT TO END…

All firearms dealers are required to do a background check on any firearms they sell at the gun show, the same as if they sold the firearm out of their ship. The same ATF rules apply. Private owners are not required to do a background check, but there are still restrictions on them. They can not sell a handgun to a non resident of the state they are in. I attend most gun shows and from personal experience find that licensed dealers make up over half of the gun sales. Dealers in other merchandise make up 30-40% of the show, while non licensed private sellers make up about 10-20%. Gun shows are not the problem. Criminals and liberals are the real problem.

Hey Ritchie, I agree with those who suggest you take some weeks off. With a small extension: take off FOREVER.

I can say that if you’re a criminal and really want a gun, I doubt you’re going to be dumb enough to go out into public like a gun show and buy the gun. You’re probably just going to steal it from someone or find another way. Just because there is no background check doesn’t mean you don’t register it. But the legal citizen has to go through hoops just to get a weapon that could save his life or put food on his table in an emergency? I will always be a responsible gun owner whether they are banned or not… get my drift. I’m sure the majority of gun owners feel the same.

It’s insane that guns could be bought without background checks… They should close that loophole…guns are for people with enough responsibility to own a gun… And to decide who’s responsible background checks are a must…unless we don’t care who gets a gun .. Or what they do when they get one..