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Fallout From Arizona Anti-immigration Law Continues

April 27, 2010 by  

Fallout from Arizona anti-immigration law continues While praised by many immigration reform proponents, the law passed in Arizona that seeks to limit illegal immigration by making it a crime to be in the state without documentation has stirred controversy among many ethnic organizations.

Last week, the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce criticized the law, saying it will result in the racial profiling of Latinos. It has now been joined by The Hispanic National Bar Association, whose representatives claim that the legislation raises "grave constitutional issues."

In addition to racial profiling, the alleged constitutional violations include freedom from unreasonable seizures and lack of due process guarantees, according to the association.

HNBA National President Roman D. Hernandez said that "if enacted, this law will create an impediment to effective police enforcement of major crimes."

He cited local law enforcement officials as saying that "Hispanics in general and undocumented persons in particular will be less willing to cooperate in providing information to police."

The Support Our Law Enforcement and Safe Neighborhood Act was passed earlier this month and it makes it a state misdemeanor to fail to comply with Federal law requiring that foreign nationals register and carry their documents with them.

Moreover, it directs police officers to inquire as to immigration status on a "reasonable suspicion" that an individual is undocumented.ADNFCR-1961-ID-19737484-ADNFCR

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  • Warrior

    What an idiotic excuse Hernandez gives that Hispanics will now be less likely to cooperate with police investigations. I would think one could make the counter argument that with this law in effect there may be less crime.

    • kate8

      I would be greatly surprised if they have EVER been cooperating with police investigations.

  • Right Wing

    If you are not legally living in any country and plan to suck off the government udder…then you should not be here. That is the basic premise of the law. Racial profiling is just the biggest smoke screen leftys can use to undermine not only the constitution but the laws designed to uphold it. Sharpton/Jackson show up on the scene with cacophonous rhetoric to divert attention away from the language and intent of the law. Anyone surprised that the media has given a free pass tot he violence at such protests calling them, “mostly peaceful”. Tea Parties have shown no violence and the integrity of the group is assaulted daily.

  • Marilyn

    ALL States should follow Arizona’s lead. If the United States Government will not do anything about illegals, then the States should enact their own policies. It’s time for some kind of crack-down. I just read CNN report. There is a bill out to give amnesty to illegals and the “rewards” they get from you and me (our tax dollars) is asssssnine. Oh, yes, the illegals will not have to learn English for nine years!!
    Check it out on CNN with Lou Dobbs and John Banner gives the report.

    • Raggs

      I bet CNN didn’t tell you that the amnesty is obama’s idea.
      Yes obama… he figures he will get thier votes in 2012..

      • Barb

        NO DAH!!!!

      • Raggs

        The DAH.. is for those that watch CNN.

      • Barb

        I know, just underscoring the most obvious of the obvious!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Barb,
        If that were for the cnn worshippers, it would have to be a !hud. that’s because they’re all backwards!!!

  • tank 10

    At last one of the 38 states that has taken the lead!
    Now I have a place to move my family to.
    Where we can stand with others for America.
    Our Liberty For Americans, By Americans, Of Americans.
    Why, because our Fathers earned it.
    To Hell with Mexacans, If they are Illegal, Then we must
    root them out like the cancer they are on our
    Economy. They are welcome to enter the USA, But
    through Due Process. As Illegals they have no rights!!

    • http://?? Joe H.

      tank 10,
      It is not just Mexicans! We have aproximatly 10,000 illegal Irishmen here. There are hundreds of middle easterners coming over the border as well. These are people that have sworn to destroy us. I’m not afraid of any man, but I don’t tempt fate either!! We have to stop the flood of illegal flesh flowing across our border unchecked!!!

  • Raggs

    Does anyone here understand that this is a “crisis” created by none other than the very ones that NOW wish to control it?

    Never let a “good” crisis go to waste…Hum where have we heard that?.

    Since this is profilling the only way to eliminate law suits will be to mandate an ID system ( national ID ).. for each and every citizen.
    As I have posted on other threads… This crisis is exactly what the government wants, it will give them an excuse to pass a new law on ID.

    You people really need to understand…

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Raggs,
      So what is your answer? just let them stay and cost us billions of dollars each and every year???? That is no answer!

      • Raggs

        I didn’t say to let them stay and absorb a free ride from the tax payers…. You cannot solve this problem by going after( to prove who they are ) the citizens of this country that have done nothing wrong… This will create a “police state” and tyranny…
        Obviously the employer’s of the illegals have everything to gain with cheap labor, no insurance for the workers..

      • Marilyn

        Check out the latest CNN report about illegals and amnesty. Interesting.

  • http://www.PoliticalChristian.org Larry Miller

    I would think that those who are here legally and have done things the right way would not want to be stained by the gangs and violent behavior of those who are making them look bad. We have an incompetent national government so it falls to the states to defend themselves. Beyond this, it is a good time to remember that the states created the federal government, they are not merely administrative districts.

  • Bob Plugh

    >Anyone…ANYONE ..can now be stopped by Arizona law enforcement and
    >asked for their ‘papers”, asked where they’ve been, where they are
    >going, what they are doing, where they live etc etc…and if the cop
    >isn’t satisfied? They can hold you.

    LIE LIE LIE LIE LIE… Only if there is sufficient suspicion. Just like “probable cause”. The simple way to fix this would be to issue Arizona drivers licenses ONLY to people who have a right to be here. ILLEGALs should NOT be able to get drivers licenses. Then, checking ID would be easier. You have an AZ license – no problem. You don’t have a license – ok – provide ANY other type of document to prove you are NOT ILLEGAL, otherwise, you will be arrested and will have to prove that you are NOT an Illegal and be fair – give them a chance, but do NOT let them out of custody to do so – someone ELSE can get their documents – OR – send a couple of deputies with them to recover their documents.

    bp

    • JeffH

      The Arizona governor has made it very clear that “profiling” will not be tolerated. For those sheeple that believe every word that your herder speaks, why would you not believe Arizona Gov. Brewer?

      • HFlashman

        LOL … you have got to be kidding. Every cop is honest? Every cop is unbiased? Every cop is trustworthy? The good Governor is as honest as the day is long and she’s to be trusted? I suppose she’ll be in every car watching to make sure the cops are within boundaries eh?

        My gawd … so much for defending our freedoms eh? Jeesh …..

      • JeffH

        …a liberal putting words in someones mouth…now that’s a new twist…Newsflash! If you’re gonna believe your Marxist POTUS, why wouldn’t you believe an Arizona governor?

    • Time

      Bob,

      When I am driving around on Long Island – New York I get stopped and asked for my papers monthly, they have [ ” Drunk Driving stops” } all the time. That also goes on all over the US right now.

      And yet – I don’t see anyone jumping up and down over these stops.

      I get stopped when I take my Porsche for a drive twice a year across the US, if I take I 10 I get stopped in Louisiana every time for speeding, yet I am not or was I ever speeding there.
      Its just a method of making money for the small Parishes along the route. Really watch the one just past Red Stick they are real butt heads.

      • Jana

        Time,
        Yeah, their are a lot of speed traps even in Texas too. That’s what we call them. We in Texas know about Lousianna too.

  • Bob Plugh

    >Wake up people, illegal immigration is a world wide problem!..law or
    >no law, undocumented individuals will be here, and when or if they
    >ever get caught, guess what, they’ll be back in 2 weeks and they’ll
    >keep coming back. What we need is a system that works…NATIONWIDE.
    >Forcing undocumented families and individuals to go into hiding is not
    >going to help anyone

    First, STOP calling them “undocumented” – call a spade a spade – they are ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS… The KEY word is ILLEGAL.

    This person raises a good point. I suggest a solution. The first time an illegal is deported, a copy of his DNA, fingerprints, and retinal scan is done. If the same person is caught again, he gets put into JAIL and is forced to do HARD LABOR (and I mean USEFUL hard labor!!!) for 1 year – no possibility of parole. The 2nd time this occurs, the sentence is 5 years – no possibility of parole. The 3rd time this occurs, the sentence is LIFE – no possibility of parole.

    This way, we WILL get useful work from them, and they will get what they want – a roof over their head and food.

    bp

    • HFlashman

      And those who BREAK THE LAW AND ARE ILLEGAL in employing undocumented workers? What would you do with those folks? They are the ones who are creating this problem…they are the ones enticing illegal immigration, they are the ones who are the problem…

      Whjat would you do with those ilk? And why aren’t you asking your Senators and Congressmen to take them to task?

    • lefty here

      Of course the context of the person you copied and paste makes a good point on all that is said…unfortunately that’s not the case for you..You expect to give them life after 3 times of getting caught??!!?!? What a complete idiocy, but at least know you RIGHT WINGERS will actually be able to correctly justify that Illegal immigrants are stealing and using out Tax money …or who do you think it’s going to support them while their incarcerated?

      • http://?? Joe H.

        lefty there,
        Have you not heard of the three strike law??? Or are you ignorant as well as blind???

      • Obama supporter

        “You can imagine if you are an Hispanic American in Arizona — your great grandparents may have been there before Arizona was a state — but now suddenly if you don’t have your papers and if you took your kid for ice cream, you’re going to be harassed,” he said. “That’s not the right way to go.”-Obama

      • Jana

        Obama supporter,
        Sorry pal, its not so sudden.How long have we been a nation now? And, your analogy of great grand parents doesn’t make sense. If their great grandparents would have been here, so would they and they would be legal.
        Your analogy is all wet.

    • cherir

      Are you aware what started this need for such a law in Arizona. The fact that they have 460,000 illegals coming across their borders; that a long time resident (rancher) in Arizona was murdered by these illegals along with his dog. It goes beyond the word illegal; they are murdering people, raping women, kidnapping young girls, taking jobs, robbing, etc., etc., etc. Could it be that Mexico does not want these criminals either because it costs so much to house them so allow them to cross the borders.

      • libertytrain

        cherir – I think the problem is that most people are mostly unaffected by it or apathetic and don’t realize that they are next.

  • HFlashman

    OK…let’s wipe the spittle from everyone’s face. Arizona’s law harkens to the darkest days of world history. The law applies not just to those of brown skin, or dark tans. It applies to everyone, and as such everyone who is in Arizona…whether resident or tourist, best be packing their wallets and ID. Illegal immigration is not just a problem in relation to Hispanics. Eastern Europenas also overstay visas and are here illegally. The law applies to them as well. So anyone, Caucasians included, can be stopped at random and asked to present their “papers”.

    Anyone…ANYONE ..can now be stopped by Arizona law enforcement and asked for their ‘papers”, asked where they’ve been, where they are going, what they are doing, where they live etc etc…and if the cop isn’t satisfied? They can hold you.

    So step back and think rationally … the State can now ask anyone, anytime, anywhere, for whatever reason, to see “papers”. Remember…a driver’s license does not pass muster under Arizoma law. IDENTITY PAPERS. Everyone now has to carry them in Arizona or be liable to be held without charges, without right to counsel, without a phone call…

    You cheer for that?

    The way to stop undocumented workers is simple. Those that employ them and knew, or should have known, of illegal status…should be fined and then spend 30 days in the county jail. No reprieve from jail time. 30 days in the county clink. The social stigma of being in jail will cure most if not all incentive to break the law and hire illegal labor. No jobs…..no reason to be here seeking work illegally. Problem solved.

    The question everyone should be asking their representatives is … why are they punishing some poor slob who is doing what everyone advocates..getting a job and working for a living? Why not go after those who employ illegal labor?

    So why is everyone giving those who break the law and emply illegal labor a free pass?

    • JeffH

      Newsflash!!!! HFlashman, there aren’t going to be random stops and ID checks without probable cause. No “profiling” will be tolerated.
      Illegal is illegal. The feds won’t enforce the laws against employers of illegals either. Man up and let the Arizona law be a model for America, afterall America is under siege at the Arizona border.

      • kate8

        You are right, JeffH, but vigilance is also called for, since the move to tyranny is incremental. A step at a time, so no one sees where it’s heading.

      • JeffH

        I’m not gonna ride the fence anymore. It is what it is, it ain’t the feds and Obama, it’s a state that has pleaded for help from the feds to control the crime associated with the illegals that bring drugs, violence and human trafficking. I don’t give a hoot about protecting these illegal criminals, and if it steps on some toes, so be it.
        I am not a racist, but right is right and wrong is wrong! Obama and his cronies are loving this, and for them, it will be a no win proposition. If the feds had done their job from the git-go we wouldn’t even be having this conversation. There isn’t an easy way out of the probelem. Amnesty to all? NOT! Round em up and ship em out, that’s a solution I can live with.
        Kudos to Arizona for taking the bull by the cahones and squeezing tight.

  • jorgaone

    ILLEGALS are just that–NOT LEGAL! They have already proven themselves a criminal simply by being here WITHOUT documentation that is real! NO officer will purposely put himself in possible danger by confronting what APPEARS to be an illegal alien merely to ask if he has documentation! He will ASK for ID because something the person has done or said appears suspicious! When was the last time YOU got stopped by a Highway Patrol for a ROUTINE traffic check? Pretty recent, wasn’t it? We as citizens–EXPECT to occasionally be checked for ID–it’s part of life, and part of keeping us safe! IF anyone objects to this routine stop and asking for ID–it’s probably because they have something to hide. Reminds me of the US citizens routinely asking for Obama’s long-form Birth Certificate–and getting instead an Executive Order to hide from discovery ALL records referring to his birth and childhood–to the tune of $1.7 MILLION of OUR money! Kinda makes a body suspicious of what there is to hide–in either case! (illegal aliens OR the occupier of the White House!)

  • Chaos Factor

    2 out of 3 Americans favor strict Regulations on Wallstreet….. The republicans oppose regulations of anykind….. Wonder if Fox( biased) news is reporting this….

    • angel-wanna-be

      Why, does that Pith you off fa fa?

      • angel-wanna-be

        LOL__I’ve got work to do, I’ll play later____ta ta for now!

    • http://?? Joe H.

      CF,
      Od news and as usual WRONG! They simply want controls on fannie and freddie as well so there won’t be a repeat of the past fiasco!!!

      • Barb

        Exactly Joe H. !!!!

    • Right Wing

      Your thought process is chaotic

    • JeffH

      Dude! Isn’t Chaos Factor a tag team in the WWE?

  • American liberal

    More good news on the economy…. Ford motors post a 2.5 billion dollar profit…. Good Job President Obama….. Bad news for Republicans….

    • babybikerbabe

      And they did so WITHOUT government money. Just sound business principles and adapting to an ever changing marketplace. A large portion of their profit is from the TRANSIT-Connect small truck designed to meet the needs of small business owners. Do your research man.

      This, again, demonstrates your total inability to think for yourself and just “tow the party line”. You’re a mindless sycophant. Go spread your useless dribble elsewhere. Your vitrol will not ever change the minds of THINKING patriotic Americans.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Babybikerbabe,
        you’re right and Obummer has nothing to do with their success. They did it without him!!! Meanwhile GM, who he DID help had to lie about paying back their loan by paying one loan back with another!!!

    • Barb

      Here we go again, Ford didn’t take Obama’s dirty money and they thrived because of it ! Americans bought Fords not “Government Motors” vihicles for the last year and a half, MORON, that’s why they made such a great profit! The American people are to be commended and Ford not Obama HE HAD NOTHING to do with it! Do you even read the news, can you comprehend what is going on in this world at all? GEEEZE!

    • Dale

      Obama had nothing to do with Fords profit. ford’s good management did. Obama is an idiot and couldn’t run a convenience store.

      • angel-wanna-be

        Dale, KUDOS!

    • http://?? Joe H.

      amalib,
      Question. If Ford MOTORS had the best year of the big three, and they only made 2.5 billion profit, how did GM pay back 35 billion with interest??? There’s your 2+2=1 again. Must be that modern math of the public schools again!!!

    • http://GOGGLE vaksal

      TO AMERICAN LIBERAL,YOU ARE LIKE THE KID THAT BURNT DOWN THE HOUSE AND TELL HALF THRUTHS,FORD MOTOR COMPANY MADE MASSIVE PROFITS,WELL THE COLD HARD FACT IS FORD MOTOR COMPANY HAS BUILT THE LARGEST CAR AND TRUCK PLANT IN NORTH AMERICA IN MEXICO,AND 70 PERCENT OF THE PARTS ARE MADE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD THANKS TO CLINTON AND THE CROOKS THAT VOTED TO PASSED ( NAFTA) SO PLEASE POST THE THRUTH IF YOU WILL NOT JUST THE HYPE YOU POST BUT PLEASE KEEP POSTING FOR EVERYONE LOVES TO HERE YOUR DRIBBLE ,MOMMY AND DADDY THEY EXPOSED ME AGAIN. HA HA HA

  • Chaos factor

    Has anyone noticed the Republican leaders have taken no stand in the Arizona….?.. Of course not.. That would require a backbone….

    • angel-wanna-be

      CHAOS FACTOR, Go back to school for a refresher course, don’t quit your day job either, your a little too inexperienced, just like your Cult leader!

  • American liberal

    Can someone remind me what Bush did about illegal immigration?… You mean he did ” nothing”…?… The only thing Bush did was Bankrupt America…

    • angel-wanna-be

      AL, Your like a bad penny, ya just keep turning up.

    • angel-wanna-be

      AL, Still blaming bush, huh?__ oooohh, thats right, what was I thinking, the smear Bush tatic is on the list of the Soros Manifesto, isn’t it?__You are a good little sheep.

      • Chaos factor

        Angel… So I guess that means you agree…once again the republicans are running in the other direction … I want to hear what Mitt thinks,,, what’s Newt think?.. Sarah?.. She can see Russia from her back porch … Isn’t it the Mormon church that believes Jesus made a trip to the American southwest at some point in his life?… Would ge need his ” papers” in Arizona…?..

      • angel-wanna-be

        CF, Mitt?__not fond of him, he developed the Health reform in Mass, too much of a Country Club repub for me. BUUUT, Keep going I’m sure you’ll find something that’ll get my dander up__BTW, your crack about Jesus wasn’t it either, besides, Jesus said, while nailed to the cross, “FORGIVE THEM FATHER, FOR THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY DO”__I’LL APPLY THAT PHRASE TO YOU!__your serve?

      • Jana

        Chaos,
        That was one of my pet peeves with Bush, that he did nothing. He even allowed two Border Patrols to go to prison. That was wrong.
        You know you think you are so smart, in attacking Bush but we all know he had faults. I only agreed with him some of the time. However I disagree with Obama now 100%. He has done everything backwards.

    • jorgaone

      YEP–A.L.SHEEPLE just keeps turning up!

    • Barb

      You are something else Am lib! Bush is OLD NEWS, BYGONE DAYS, NO MORE! We are talking TODAY, MORON! Today is your dictator who by the way has bankrupt the planet not just the USA and is Morally bankrupt! If anyone is surprised that the illegals would rise up and cry about Arizona’s new law then they are brain dead! All the border states need to do something to stop the flow, whether or not this is totally the right way to go who knows yet, but at least Arizona has the balls to try. New Mexico won’t because of their idiot governor, thank God I don’t live there anymore! I’m surprised Texas hasn’t followed suit and then there is fairyland west of Arizona they won’t do anything either! We live in the central part of the country and our state is considering doing the same thing as Arizona or at least in part. But then we’re mostly conservative out here in the heartland! AND we don’t need their labor or their crime so thanks anyway Amlib. And to answer your question of are we afraid of the scary immigrants, when they are illegal drug cartel leaders who would shoot their own Grandmas for a hit and Gang Bangers who would kill anything just for the thrill of killing then yeah I’d say anyone with half a brain would be a little scared, MORON! That’s what’s coming over illegally, twit!

    • angel-wanna-be

      A.lIBERAL, YOU MUST HAVE SECRETLY LIKED BUSH, YOU KEEP BRINGING HIM UP!__BTW, is The Bamster’s hopey, changy sh*t, keeping you well fed and housed, I trust?

    • http://GOGGLE vaksal

      TO AMERICAN LIBERAL,SO RIGHT BUSH BANKRUTED THIS NATION,WHY? BECAUSE DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT CLINTON SIGNED ( NAFTA ) AND GAVE AWAY THIS NATIONS ECONOMY AT THE TIME OF SIGNIG THE WORLDS BIGGEST,WELL THAT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE POISONED COOKIE THAT THIS NATION WAS GIVEN BY THE CROOKS PUT IN POWER BY YOU EVIL LITTLE PEOPLE THAT HAVE A GREAT VISION,A DREAM THAT IS ALL IT IS AND AMERICAN LIBERAL WELL ITS HERE YOUR GREAT DREAM,BUT DONT JUST TELL A TWISTED THRUTH,TELL THE WHOLE STORY,OH! AND WELCOME TO YOUR VISION,WELL MAYBE NOT AS YOU DREAMED,FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE WAKING UP TO THE VISION OF THE THRUTH,THAT PEOPLE LIKE YOU HAVE TURNED THIS NATION INTO A BASTION OF CORRUPTION AND LIES ,BUT ITS NOT YOUR FAULT,NO JUST PASS THE BUCK ,AND SCREAM ,MOMMY AND DADDY NOONE WANTS MY DREAMS,AND I WONDER WHY? TO MUCH KOOLAID WITH YOUR TWISTED HALF THRUTHS.

      • cherir

        Read the book The Creature from Jekyll Island before you blame Bush. All about the so called Federal Reserve Bank. Rich families l,ike the Rockefellers that create money out of nothing; writing off debt for large banks and forcing the taxpayer to pay for their mismanagement and greed; along with creating inflation.

  • Claire

    The Obama administration says the Arizona law is “misguided.” Well, at least they have the guts to try to do something about the illegals. I have already stated that I have no problem with an ID card. I would do anything to get rid of the illegals. They are breaking us. I did not hear that the Arizona governor asked for the National Guard and nothing has been done yet? Imagine that! But they are sending the National Guard to Chicago!! Gotta take care of Chicago first and foremost. The violence/killings/robberies, drug users are rampant in Chicago. Mayor Daley and his cronies have done a great job!!! Heck, I don’t even go out after dark anymore and I don’t live in Chicago.
    Political correctness is out of the question. The law must do what they have to do, to he– with racism. No guts no glory.

    • angel-wanna-be

      CLAIR, Exactly!!__The Governor of Arizona had the kahunas to change the law and he was “shown up”, so to speak__So it’s appropiate I guess, Obama scorns her for taking chances. My hats off to her!!!_If we keep sitting around and waiting for the kind of change Obama promises, America will be known as Euro-America.
      BTW, Obama had the nerve to narrate the TV documentary entitled “AMERICA, THE STORY OF US”. As if he cared about us. AND naturally most of the people adding narration throughout the movie were Liberals, such as Sheryl Crow!___Talk about being two-faced!
      God Bless

      • Claire

        angel–I didn’t know he narrated a TV documentary. Where have I been? I guess I must have been asleep. I agree with you–hats off to the Arizona Govenor. Took a woman to get the job done!! Nothing against men, she just happens to be female! Good for her!!

      • angel-wanna-be

        Claire___Yepper, PMS and a handgun_Baby!__lol

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Angel,
        I’ve been married for 33 years. I don’t wanna be around for that!!!!!

      • angel-wanna-be

        JoeH, Lol___The old man and I, we’re together 38 years, married 35__Don’t matter who gets to 30 years of marriage, that’s pretty awesome in this day and age of divorce and means we haven’t killed each other yet!___lol

      • Claire

        Angel—Hilarious and oh so true!! Send a bunch of women with PMS and handguns after them. That will get rid of them in a hurry!!! LOL

      • JeffH

        angel-wanna-be, you are a hoot sometimes…keep it up girl!

      • angel-wanna-be

        Claire, Bambi didn’t narrate the whole story, just the introduction, but quite honestly, I was really put off by it. And I’m sick of seeing his damn face everywhere I look! I respect the office of the President, But, it’s who’s occupying it right now, that gets to me!

      • Claire

        angel—Oh nooooo, don’t call him Bambi–Remember, I love Bambi!! LOL

      • JeffH

        angel-wanna-be, I started to watch the show sunday nite and got sick to my stomach right away when Obama came on…switched the channel. The man is a bold faced liar and as radical as they get.

        Just a note,
        FRESNO, Calif. (KFSN) — One of the leaders of a radical political movement of the sixties and seventies drew a crowd of protestors in Fresno Thursday night.

        William Ayers(Obama’s buddie) will speak at Fresno State Friday. He’s a controversial figure because he led the Weather Underground, a radical group that set off bombs at the White House, the Pentagon and many other targets in the early 70′s to protest the Vietnam War.

        Nobody was hurt in those blasts, but Ayers radical past, and his more recent association with Barack Obama makes him a target of Tea Party protestors, who showed up at a Fresno Church where he spoke on a documentary film about the Weather Underground.

        About 50 members of the Tea Party Movement came to protest Bill Ayers appearance in Fresno.

      • angel-wanna-be

        JeffH, I saw this on Fox News this morning, I’m still amazed, at the idiots who bow at the feet, of known antagonizers such as Bill Ayers. I try not to get too upset about these idiots that follow the Liberals, because when I was younger and raising my kids, I was Not that involved in Politics. I only watched from a distance. Delving into it for the last couple years, has revealed a lot more info than anyone could ever imagine!__It’s plain to see, if they only open their eyes.

      • JeffH

        angel-wanna-be, same here…what an eye opner.

      • kate8

        JeffH, I know what you mean about watching BO. Just the sound of his (reverberating) voice makes my stomach turn. Anytime he comes on, I turn him off immediately.

      • JeffH

        Amen, I’m sick about it everytime I here his lies, eh,I mean voice.

    • Fed Up Gal in NM

      AngelWB and Claire,

      I feel your pain. I respect Arizona’s governor for taking on this issue; she’s got more courage than New Mexico’s governor (Richardson)….that’s for sure.

      I just wish Arizona’s governor would ask all the states National Guard units for assistance on the border…then let each state’s Governor reject (if so inclined) her public request for assistance….so the nation can see each state for what it is.

      National Guard units are state militia’s. Look at the times National Guard units have been requested for state of emergencies in states other than their own. Living in a border state (especially after 9-11), I believe the current Federal immigration policy (or lack thereof) is a “State of Emergency”….at least in the border states. I’m not a military Judge Advocate (attorney), but I believe it’s usually up to the governor (ultimately), not up to the President….well except for the manipulative arm twisting that can and frequently does occur.

      • Claire

        Fed Up Gal–I agree with you–call in the National Guard, a number from every state, give them the supplies they NEED and get it over with. I think it is up to the governor to ask for the National Guard, but I don’t know for sure. I hope so. Now the Texas governor should pass the same law. And New Mexico-and California? I know I would. The question is–will the National Guard be allowed to shoot? Or just threaten? If it is just threaten, then it will not help.

      • Claire

        If they are allowed to shoot, then possibly war between Mexico and the U.S.? It could be a possibility–

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Claire,
        When all firing would be on U.S. soil? I doubt it!

      • Palin12

        I hope all the illegal aliens in Arizona don’t get any ideas about moving up to Nevada! We have more than enough of them already. We’re tapped out. We can’t afford you. There are no jobs…

      • angel-wanna-be

        Palin 12, I have and Aunt and Uncle living in San Diego. For years, they put up with illegals stealing them blind. They’d break into they’re garage and take anything they could find. My Aunt couldn’t even han they’re wash on the line to dry, because within a few hours all the clothes, were stolen off the line!__They eventually moved to another part of San Diego. I can’t believe people today.

      • American liberal

        Are you afraid of the scarey immigrants?

      • Palin12

        I want the illegal aliens out of my neighborhood, period! They tear down the property values on the whole block. The ones I’ve seen do absolutely no maintenance on the properties, junk and trash all over the lawn, beatup old pickup trucks parked all over, houses are an eyesore. They wouldn’t mind turning the whole subdivision into a barrio.

      • kate8

        AL’s remark is just typical of how the left views the havok the illegals wreak on us. They steal us blind and AL thinks it’s amusing.

        What a sick-o.

      • Jana

        A.L.
        If you aren’t scared of the immigrants then you are dumber than I even thought you were!.

      • angel-wanna-be

        Claire, I believe the Governmor of Arizona, did request Obama to send the National Guard, but he never acted on it.

      • angel-wanna-be

        AL___BOOOO!

      • Chaos Factor

        Angel… Illegals were stealing your Aunts underwear off her clothesline?……. Maybe they needed a tent?

      • angel-wanna-be

        Hey Chaos Factor, Comedy Central called, they’ve misplaced they’re Liberal Village Idiot, callem’ back and let’em know your OK!

      • Claire

        Angel–I had not heard this but it surely aggravates me. But I would have expected as much. He doesn’t want to lose the Hispanic vote.

      • Chaos Factor

        Claire… You want the illegal immigrants shot?…most of the immigrants are just looking for work… And are unarmed….but for republicans I guess any excuse to shoot people is a good thing…so would it be like( show me your papers) bam..?

      • Dale

        you’re a dumb ass, they are criminals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • angel-wanna-be

        CF, Oh Yessss, US BIG BAD REPUBLICANS!!__I can’t speak for them all___But, Us Bad Republicans, that give freely to charities, while the Liberals steal money out of our pockets, through tax and regulation, to spread the wealth around, to those who wish NOT to work for it.__Us Bad Republicans, who followed Reagan and listen to him declare, ” Mr Gorbechev, Tear down this Wall”__I haven’t heard ANYTHING a liberal has done to that Magnitude. The Libby crowd, hides behind the guise of “being for the working man”__ Right!__You guys don’t get it, They only want your vote and your dependency on the Government and most of the time, your Libby sheep are more than willing to let them call the shots for YOU!!

      • libertytrain

        Claire – leave it to Chaos Factor to create something out of nothing. Also, Unarmed – I wonder how that rancher was killed?

      • Jana

        Chaos Factor,
        The only illegals that need to be shot are the drug runners that are shooting at our Border Patrol, or any of them that are trying to hurt our Border Patrol.

        You said they are just looking for work. Yeah sure, just look at how peacefully they are demonstrating in the streets of Arizona. As soon as they get here there are organizations made up of stupid Socialists that help them fill out paper work to get ‘free money’ from the government. That money isn’t free to me, I pay dearly for them to get their ‘free money’. I have lived this life, we had to move away from there because it wasn’t even safe to go to the grocery store without getting surrounded by Mexican guys and being touched all over out in the parking lot. The grocery stores got dirtier and dirtier and played LOUD Mexican music.
        My husband had to go with me to the grocery store.

      • Claire

        Chaos Factor–Call it what you want. Everyone has the right to their opinion. And I certainly have a right to mine. But if push comes to shove…. Enough is enough. How else will the borders be protected unless the National Guard is called in? Will they be unarmed or will they be told to shoot if necessary? But I guess you think it is o.k when our border agents get shot and killed? Think about that. Personally I do NOT want to see any AMERICAN killed over the issue of the illegals. A few pot shots arent’t going to hurt. Scare them away. Killing? Nah, I really don’t believe in killing. I just believe they should go back where they came from. Hey, I have an idea!! Why don’t you go down there and take care of all the illegals? Take them back to Mexico and live with them. You would last maybe one day! LOL

      • jorgaone

        The National Guard has ALWAYS been under the Commandership of the Governor of that particular State–that’s why they are referred to as the “STATE NAME National Guard” The Commander-In-Chief of the US Military is supposed to be the POTUS.
        To even get the Governor to call out his State’s National Guard except for his use within that particular State–the POTUS is supposed to ASK–and get an acceptance–from the Governor of that State, based on a clear and carefully spelled out NATIONAL EMERGENCY.
        Of course–currently–the “Person-In-The-White House” seems to believe that HE is the Commander of all he surveys! ‘Taint so–and never will be…

      • angel-wanna-be

        Fed up Gal in NM__Yeah Bambi in the Whitehouse won’t send the National Guard down to Mexico, but last night on the news, I heard they we’re having trouble in Chicago,(where Bambi’s from) and thoughts were, they were going to the send National Guard in there. I haven’t heard anymore on it this morning. But, Talk about a royal slap in the face of Arizona!!__This guy has got to be the worst president we’ve ever had, no doubt about it!__Take that LIBERAL SHEEP!

    • William Nealey

      anything to do with whats right is wrong according to obummer and his socialist and communist friends,

  • angel-wanna-be

    I’m watching Hannity at the moment, and the Reverend Al Sharpton was just on, ranting and raving about PROFILING of people of color! How freaking ridiculous is this. HOW ELSE, ARE WE GOING TO STOP THE POLICE KILLINGS at the borders, STOP THESE ILLEGALS FROM CROSSING THE BORDERS, AND BEGIN TO GET A HAND UP ON THESE DRUG CARTELS, WITHOUT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PROFILING!!! The police are not permitted to stop ANYONE, without a reasonable cause. Isn’t SUSPIOUS BEHAVIOR STILL A REASONABLE CAUSE?
    so, What are we going to do, continue on with this POLITICAL CORRECTIVENESS BULLSH*T, FOR EXAMPLE: “EXCUSE ME, I DON’T MEAN TO BE RUDE, BUT DO YOU HAVE A GREEN CARD???”__Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe the Arizona Governor, asked for help from the National Guard. I didn’t see Obama send her any help!_The Governor is to the point, she has to do something, and tough sh*t, if a few innocents get there feelings hurt. Being inconvenienced is a hell of alot better, than lying dead in the street, from being caught in the cross of gunfire!!

    • Jana

      angel wb,
      I watched a few minutes of it and couldn’t take it. Sharpton wouldn’t let anyone else have a point of view and it just reminded me of the lefties and Socialists on this site, so I turned it off.

      By the way a few of these guys could be plants either volunteers or paid, more than likely just volunteers to come on to this site and cause trouble. It sure seems like it. They attack with such hatred and since they all basically say the same stupid mantra over and over it seems organized.

      • angel-wanna-be

        Jana, Yes I believe your right, there is way too many Obama supporters/Sympathizers on here. Or more appropiate A**kissers! Obama has already begun his campaign for 2012 as per videos, by trying to fleece votes from (get this) women, hispanics, blacks and the young!. I would assume he targeted theses folks because, the majority of people in the Tea parties are older Americans and he knows us old farts aren’t buying what he’s selling. The Liberals try to make the Repubs look as if they don’t care about anyone, accept their pocketbooks. When we know ALL politicians are guilty as charged. Some are worse than others._But these Liberals shills on here, all spew the same stuff, I’ve learned to just ignore them. They can only shake us up if we let them___nahhhh!—-lol

      • Dale

        Marilyn, I agree with you, and what are these people he seeks votes from? They are low income, under educated, non taxpaying people whom he hopes to make a majority of in this country, so they will all be good slaves. Wake up America! Look at how gray Obamination is getting. He is worried, and worry is fueled by his deceitful, dishonest and egregious intentions. God help the ignorant and the blind, they need it.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Angel,
        The politicians don’t want to stop the drug runners as they are taking the drugs!!! how else do you explain their actions???

      • Jana

        JoeH,
        LOL good point. LOL

      • kate8

        I think you are right Jana. I’m sure these liberals on this site work for SEIU or some such org, and are getting paid WITH OUR TAX MONEY. Just another way these half-wits get to irritate us with their ignorant, hateful diatribes, and steal our money to do it.

        I’m skipping all of their posts. They really have nothing of value to offer and I’m tired of their insults and distortions. They are trained to do this and, by allowing them to control the comments the way they seem to, we play right into their purpose.

    • William Nealey

      I wrote to FOX and I told them I am sick and tired of al sharpto. also jessie jackson louis farakhan and allen holms. I was so glad when they moved him from the Hannity show,

      • http://PERSONALLIBERTYDIGEST ANDREA66

        I COULD NOT STOMACH THAT HOLMES EITHER.

    • Mary

      You’re right. I know for sure some people from latin american countries who are responsible for murder and other crimes. They are living here. They just jump the border like Peter in his house. This situation is out of control. Looks like this government don’t care if Arizona become like Mexico a drug cartel nightmare. Is it true that Arizona is the number one in the world for kidnapping? I know Mexico and Latin American are bad in general but here I’m not sure. Bad things are happening every day. I won’t be surprise if that is true. Imagine how bad some illegals are that I have some friends from Central America and they told me that some of the people that are deported from here don’t last not even a week over there. They can not believe how this country put up with so much human trash.

  • Jim H.

    I think the feds don’t like it because the state took the bull by the horns and decided to do their job and made them look the fool. Arresting someone for doing something ILLEGAL is just law enforcement, not racism. Criminals come in all race, color and creeds.

    • Fed Up Gal in NM

      Jim H,

      Very well said!

      • William Nealey

        KUDOS Gal,

      • http://?? Joe H.

        William,
        i think what we need to keep in mind is that during Bushes term, when he tried to pass amnesty over 78% of us were agtainst it. We stopped it by our voices in unison! Even the progressives can’t stand in the way of 78% of the people!! Not even the illegals or their gangs!!! God knows we are right!!!

    • kate8

      They are just following the communist/Marxist playbook, stirring up turmoil and chaos everywhere possible. That’s what this is really about. Some businesses have had the advantage of cheap labor, but that is just a small part of the issue. It is to disrupt life in America, pit the population against one another, stir up anger and frustration, and bring us closer to the breaking point.

      Isn’t it the NWO motto: order out of chaos. This administration is just following the plan for bringing in world government.

      And AL, don’t bother with one of your usual derogatory remarks about me being a right-wing nut case. I’m no longer reading liberal posts.

      • William Nealey

        Kate you are so right,we all should quit reading their STUPID drivel,thats why I quit reading the new york times and many other rags. and I quit watching msnbc abc nbc and noe cnn.

    • George E

      I’m thinking the Feds are also nervous that other states may pass similar laws as well. If this happens, the administration may lose the political initiative on immigration reform to the states and conservatives. This could cost the Democrats votes in the Fall elections. This is a very touchy subject with the American people, and how it is framed makes all the difference in what they eventually support. For example, Americans do want their borders and immigration laws enforced, but they don’t want to discriminate against anyone to do it. So, if the Democrats can frame this as a racial discrimination issue, then they win. Otherwise, they lose.

      • Jana

        Georgoe,
        I sure hope other states do. And then Obama has the audacity to see if he can challenge this? HUMPH! I have already emailed the White House, I am going to email my congressmen too, as well as tomorrow I am telephoning the White House.

  • Daniel

    Right-Wingers are closet racists!!

    • s c

      Read any good biography about the life and ideas of Margaret Sanger (one of the world’s WORST racists), and then telll us how it is that your White House god will NOT refute her ideas and beliefs. Margaret Sanger wanted to EXTERMINATE all blacks. She was a progressive’s progressive. Obummer is an off-the-chart progressive, but he WON’T REFUTE Margaret Sanger. DO YOU KNOW THAT MEANS?
      YOU figure it out, and then YOU explain it, Einstein. You know SQUAT about racism. De-program yourself before you dare to flaunt your world-class IGNORANCE on this website! GROW UP!

      • kate8

        Good point, sc. Libs are big on eugenics anyway.

        I recall a short while back Hillary saying how much she admires Margaret Sanger. And still the minorities worship these people, and accuse us, who support everyone’s right to life, racist.

        As I’ve said before, you can always know what the left is doing by what they are accusing the right of doing.

      • Jana

        kate8, Those are good words. We can always know what the left is doing by what they are acusing us of doing. I love it.

    • Fed Up Gal in NM

      Daniel…..Nice to see you’re proud to be so open about your own racist status.

    • E-Rock

      Well you know that race card is played out!! And I’ve been pulled over by law inforcement as the have created probable cause! Im white so I cant scream racism! So now once again as we try to rid ourselves of ILLEGALS…CRIMINALS…that race card is being pulled once again!! These liberals have it all backwards! Cant attack back with fact and logic!!!!!!!!! Its always “you’re racist” OR “your just full of hate”…lol! Get a clue with some fact and logic or shut up! The smart people are sick of the ignorance!! This country is slowly diminishing because we have ignored our Constitution! Just hand the country over to them…these liberals will not be happy till we are a 3rd world country and we all are dependant on the government!!!!!!!!!

      • Mary

        E- Rock. 3rd World countries citizens are not government dependents. Why do you think we are full of illegals here? In a 3rd world country if you don’t work you don’t eat. That simple. They don’t put up with nobody crap including their own.

    • William Nealey

      daniel you sound like an absolute IDIOT.so I can only assume you are one,

    • Jim MACK

      the ignorance of the law is no excuse… if you snuck over the border. it’s illegal. the mexican army, armed, protecting illegals and high profile drug lords into the US. is illegal. murdering and kidnapping american citizens is… you guessed it… illegal. undocumented voting by these persons is illegal. were i governor of one of the 4 states in question, armed incursion would be looked upon as invasion and the national guard would have standing order to fire right winger? no Daniel, it’s the law. illegal… is against the law. and all peoples engaged in such activity? go back. Mexico wouldn’t like it? get them to stop the drug flow, and start an oil flow. one barrel per day, per illegal.

    • Warrior

      Left Wingers are Open Racists!

  • Left-winger

    Nice to see that the right-wingers are always so quick to refer back to the constitution, only to manipulate it into saying what they want it to say.

    The law that Arizona is trying to pass is a joke!… What are they thinking, that people are going to automatically go back to where they came from because they will no longer be able to reside in that state?…Wake up people, illegal immigration is a world wide problem!..law or no law, undocumented individuals will be here, and when or if they ever get caught, guess what, they’ll be back in 2 weeks and they’ll keep coming back. What we need is a system that works…NATIONWIDE. Forcing undocumented families and individuals to go into hiding is not going to help anyone. Violence will rise, crimes will go unreported, and people will eventually start spreading to other states where they’ll hurt the economy even more for neighboring states!. Here’s a proposition for all you right-wingers out there… How about you all shut your mouths and open your minds!! Everyone deserve a chance to better thier lives, who are you to pass judgment? I bet if you woke up in a world where you’re constantly afriad for your well being, your walefare, your family and your freedom, you’d make the move. We are all so quick to judge. Remember, you only get what you give…let’s make America better by sharing it and working side by side.

    one last comical thought, All right-wingers are right-wingers because they dont know any better, Please keep simmering in your ignorance, the world will just keep moving forward for the better without you.

    • Jana

      Lefty Liberal,
      You condemn yourself by your own words. I will give you back what you gave and I quote,
      “How about you all shut your mouths and open your minds!!”

      • William Nealey

        well said Jana. the problem is left wing liberals only want we the people to shut up. there are more than enough laws on the books. they are not being inforced because the leftwing IDIOTS and the democrats dont want them enforced,

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Left-winger,
      You show your ignorance by your words! The law has already been passed!! Try listening a little closer to the news. Even the MSM has reported that!!!

      • left winger

        it’s msn you idiot

    • Fed Up Gal in NM

      Left-Winger,

      Why on earth would we just shut up and leave you to all the fun? I live in NM and I commend Arizona for putting the Federal Government and apparently you, on notice. The Feds (all parties in DC) have not done their job, forcing border states to take action to protect their “legal” citizens.

      Before you start spewing that racist venom…”legal” citizens encompasses anyone born in this country or who are in the U.S…..”legally”. The problem is, the Feds have played blind while allowing this situation to get to boiling point. Things are different since 9-11; we can no longer as a nation…expect our border states to simply suck it up…financially or otherwise.

      Personally, it would be okay with me…if everyone, regardless of ethnicity who got stopped for a traffic or other violation had to prove their citizenship. This could easily be done when initially issued a drivers license or state ID….simply provide your birth certificate. In the long run, this would likely help the hispanic community….well at least those here legally.

      • William Nealey

        you got it so right Gal.as a retired truck driver having run west coast quite a bit I had to show so much identification every time I came through a check point in california Az. and even NEW mexico and Texas, so left winger needs to keep his IDIOTIC crap to himself,

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Fed Up Gal,
        I’m from Ohio and I commend them for passing this law! we have a town not far from us called Painesville and it is a sanctuary city. The city is always puttingt tax increases on the ballot as the city is BROKE! the crime rate there is so much higher there than here and I am about 20 miles closer to Cleveland!!! So yes, no Hell YES I commend them for passing it!!

    • angel-wanna-be

      Left-Winger, How much do you get an hour for sheep rustling?_
      If your the best the Liberals have, DON’T QUIT YOUR DAY JOB!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Angel,
        According to the news reports I have heard this law is real close to the law that is on the federal books and not being enforced!! Arizona is just doing the job that the feds aren’t allowed to do!! Go Arizona and Go Sheriff Joe Arapao!!!!!

      • angel-wanna-be

        Joe, I give the Governor of Arizona all the credit in the world. Stopping this influx of illegals has to start somewhere and your right, she did! _ Bambi in Washington doesn’t like being shown up!
        and yessss we need a Sheriff Joe Arapao around here too. I’d like to see the criminals, just try and sue him for something. He’d tellem’ to dance, while shooting at their feet!

      • David

        I would like to see she and pelosi go a couple of rounds…..she has gusto! I wish my gov. Bev Perdue wasn’t such a pushover.

      • JeffH

        I think she would drop Pelosi like a bad habit!

      • kate8

        Have to be really diligent, though, because bad habits have a way of resurfacing.

      • William Nealey

        way to go Joe. and way to go Joe Arpaio. hell the feds tried to tie his hands. but they didn’t succeed. we need to clean washington out and put some people in there who care about we the people. we do not need proffessionel politicieans making decisions for us. what we need are some good STATESMEN in washington,

      • http://?? Joe H.

        william,
        We need a few Joe Arapao’s in Washington!!!! I can’t help but picture him telling the progressives ” There ain’t enought room in this town for the both of us. Don’t let the sun set on you in D.C.!!” Wouldn’t that be something to see??? HaHa!

    • American liberal

      Lefty… Good post.. I agree..this law won’t stand… And as we’ve seen for decades no law is gonna stop illegal immigration..wait till Arizona figures out they need those workers…

      • Barb

        The only reason a state like Arizona would need those workers is because of the lazy a.. freeloader libs like you on welfare!

    • Dale

      I hope you awake someday in the world you talk about. WHAT PART OF ILLEGAL DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND. MAYBE WE’LL GET LUCKY AND THEY WILL MISTAKE YOU FOR ONE AND SEND YOU BACK WITH THEM.

      • cheryll

        Apparently the government doesn’t know what illegal means either. The government says they have a right to live the american dream, well hell, I was born in this country, and I still haven’t lived the american dream.. I have struggled so the illegals can live it though.

      • kate8

        I remember reading about how many illegals have numerous stolen identities, and collect government money from each one. A single illegal could be collecting $10,000 or more per month. And a good deal of that goes back home to the family.

        And don’t forget that they also get social security now, so I suppose they could collect on each fraudulent ID.

        I’m thinking of revoking my citizenship so I can get in on some of their benefits. Might as well, since I’ve been paying long enough.

      • Jana

        kate8,
        I have lifelock on my ID now as my SS# was taken by an illegal. I happened to do a credit check and spotted it and was able to put a stop to it. I went to the police and the SS office as well as all three major crdit agencies and kept making a loud roar until everyone got it before it became a major issue. Whew was I lucky. Later I found out what could have happened.

      • William Nealey

        Dale we couldn’t be that lucky,

    • BOE

      Hey Lefty…you know why Obama wants them here don`t you? Because somebody has to work manuel labor. Blacks folks ain`t gonna work and contribute. Nope..black folks just take and take and take…so as white folks die out the “latinos” will be expected to work to support the black people. End of story.

  • JeffH

    INVASION USA
    Look how much money illegals milking you for

    Amount expected to rocket if Democrats grant amnesty

    A new report from Numbers USA, which advocates for limits on immigration into the United States, says each American paid $330 last year to provide government services for illegal aliens.

    Numbers USA staffer Chad MacDonald said if an amnesty plan becomes law, allowing illegals from coast-to-coast to suddenly establish citizenship, their retirement program will set U.S. taxpayers back an estimated $2.6 trillion.

    “Fifty-three percent of recent immigrants use welfare services and immigrants who have arrived since 1990 and their legally born children account for a 75 percent growth rate in the nation’s uninsured population,” MacDonald said.

    “We’d like for Congress to pass a special bill demanding that the census data be used,” William Gheen, president of Americans for Legal Immigration PAC, told WND at the time. “The alarm that needs to be raised is that every illegal alien that fills out the census is stealing taxpayer resources and political representation.”

    • http://?? Joe H.

      JeffH,
      According to reports, even if they are given amnesty and given citizenship to start them paying taxes the average family of them will still use 29,000 dollars more than they pay per year due to the fact that they are low wage uneducated workers who don’t have a high school diploma!!

      • Claire

        JeffH and JoeH—All I can say is that I will really be pis— if they are granted amnesty. It will be the straw that broke the camel’s back. Literally.

  • Time

    ((It is a crime when you are here Illegally.))
    Whats so bloody hard to grasp about that.

    Our Government has fallen down on the job, in HOPES of VOTES.

    A criminal is a criminal – not that most all the congress and senate and lets not forget our specail gand of thugs with BarryO are all Criminals.

    Lets clean out that toilet in November.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Time,
      Off subject, but on tha conspiracy theory on JFK we posted about. Google Midnight Magazine/ JFK on ARI yacht after assasination?
      then go down to Is Howard Hughes Dead and buried off a Greek island?
      the first story there is about JFK and Jackie.

    • William Nealey

      Time you have it exactly right. thats the reason the dems. and the left wing IDIOTS want to keep our borders open. for new democrat votes,

  • Dax

    Fallout From Arizona Anti-immigration Law Continues ??
    I think I would change the title of this article.

    Why do people keep MIS-representing the act of breaking the law, and illegally entering this country as “immigration” of some sort? Can anyone tell me?
    Immigrants and immigration is a nice word (p.c.) to clean up the words criminals, and illegal aliens which is what they really are. Kind of like muslum terrorists was cleaned up by OSAMA OBAMA to read “enemy combatant” and “terrorist bombings, suicide bombings, and road side bombings” was changed to “man caused events”
    They are not immigrants, and illegally entering this country, is not immigration.

    • William Nealey

      you got it right DAX. those IDIOTS need educating,

      • Dax

        William,
        I think all the liberals already know what’s in the bill, and they’re just complaining about something, anything, to try and disrupt this site. None of their complaints holds any water. It’s just stuff they’re making up so they have something to biaatch about.

  • American liberal

    Besides the KKK, the American Nazi party the Tea Baggers and ignorant rightwingers, who praised this new racist law in Arizona…. This law will be overturned .. It’s 100 % unconstitutional…you can’t target ” anyone based on the way they look…. The rightwing wants a communist type country..do you want a country where you have to carry papers like Nazi Germany??..it’s the rightwing that breeds tyranny .. It’s the rightwing that takes away rights..if you want a country with a bunch of rightwing morons walking around armed your insane… If it’s up to the rightwing this country will look just like Afghanistan and Iraq… Americans biggest enemy is the rightwing..

    • Dax

      Un American, & uneducated Liberal,
      Why don’t you get a political education before you post here? Maybe then you could actually address the article and the posters comments without looking like such an ignorant libturd!

      • Palin12

        I don’t even bother reading Unamerican Lib’s posts. Just skip down to the next post. He’s already proven what an uneducated, brain-washed fool he is. When he admitted in an earlier thread that “Ronald Reagan gave me AMNASTY (his spelling) that’s all I needed to know.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Palin12,
        He didn’t listen to the news reports enough to know that the governor has stated many times that the police are not able to detain solely on looks or color of skin. What a dip!!!

      • Dax

        Palin,
        Yep, you’re right. What’s the point of wasting time reading A. Liberals crap. (words removed for offensive content) as she has shown herself to be rather ignorant. She also hijacks the names Kay and Liberty train.

      • JeffH

        Dax, libertytrain is not a liberal, believe me. She is a fair lady just as Claire is.

      • eyeswideopen

        Dax, your radical viewpoint and you superior attitude is exactly what Americans are tired of. You make assumptions and you are totally wrong. But thanks for the compliment. Dax, is that some kind of foreign name??? Have you got papers to prove you are white???You need to be the correct color of white or else you can be deported at a moments notice. LMAO!! Don’t stay out in the sun too long.

      • denniso

        The Repubs are only sealing their fate as a fringe party and blowing their chance to gain congressional seats in Nov…Passing laws like this and alienating not only hispanic voters but millions of moderate Americans who see the party going over the edge into reactionary and extreme politics for the obvious purpose of playing to their extremist base and the noisy ‘tea party’. The party that sat by for yrs while Bush/Cheny trampled the constitution and burst the budget and is suddenly wide awake and conscience stricken when a new administration comes in to try and fix the mess.
        For all the ranting on this site for months about the ‘unconstitutiona’ acts of Obama and now these same people love the idea of a Soviet and Nazi style ‘law’ that will give the police power to demand citizenship papers from anyone walking the street, and especially anyone who ‘looks’ or ‘acts’ differently…wow!!!

        BLATANT HYPOCRISY FROM THE RIGHT AND TEA PARTY AND ‘CONSERVATIVES’!!

      • libertytrain

        Jeff, Dax’s problem is that I don’t always agree with him or his other posting names therefore I’m a liberal. Jeff, Thank you for your kind words.

      • JeffH

        libertytrain, I will always watch the back of good Americans that have good values.

      • libertytrain

        JeffH – that’s what I value about you – and Claire for that matter – always fair. Realizing that disagreeing with someone doesn’t mean that person is the “enemy” – almost like behaving like a grown-up is supposed to behave – it is hard fight that we on the conservative side have to fight – For me, I would prefer it is done in a more dignified manner than to behave like a bully. So much more is gained –

      • Dax

        Libertytrain,
        Nope, not what I said. Eyes wide open has hijacked yours and Kays names before. She has impersonated you and posted under your name. I do agree with your posts, except when Eyes is using your name.

      • libertytrain

        “dax” ok then -

      • JeffH

        Dax, rereading your post, I get it..”hijacking names”. Someone does it occasionally as I well know.

      • Claire

        liberty-train- A person gets more with honey than they do vinegar. LOL

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Libertytrain,
        I just want to make sure we are square after my appology to you. I would under no conditions purposly disrespect a mother of service members. It means a great deal to me!

      • Claire

        libertytrain—My post was in answer to your “so much more is gained”…..truly spoken.

      • libertytrain

        JoeH, You’re aok with me.

      • libertytrain

        Claire – you and I seem to have the same kind of values -

      • OB58says:

        Hey Palin 12, He can only say… CORPSMAN …SADLY … he needs to join the military before running for office, I hear amen!

      • Claire

        So far my name has been highjacked once. And they better leave well enough alone. I can’t imagine anyone stooping that low.

    • obiwan

      Hey Oxymoron libtard,
      Havn’t you found a job flippin burgers yet or gotten into a GED english class. Quit spewing your nonsense idiocy and let the adults have a conversation.

      • denniso

        Adults??? Maybe adults w/ a lobotomy…adults who can think independently and logically?? No, you guys are like children who have their favorite toys taken away and then can only whine and scream uncontrollably…you’re too clueless to realize that you give away your IQ every time you spout and rant exactly like the extremist before you,or after you and all around you…you’re nothing but lemmings following blowhards like Limbaugh/Beck/O’Reilly/Palin/Savage.
        All of them smiling on the way to the bank w/ their fortunes you help provide for them. You’re pure dupes and too slow to understand it. Sad….

      • Mary

        DR.SAVAGE IS THE BEST. Just Brilliant. He knows what he talks about it (FAMILY, LANGUAGE AND BORDERS). GET EDUCATED LISTEN TO HIM . jUST THINK AND RESOURCE WHAT HE SAYS. HISTORY REPEAT ITSELF. We new a WALL BETWEEN USA AND MEJICO ASAP. EXACTLY LIKE THE GREAT WALL OF CHINA. LOVE YOUR COUNTRY.

      • denniso

        Taking you as an example of a Savage listener, I rest my case…

      • George E

        Denniso,

        Don’t forget, folks on both side of the political isle exploit politics for personal gain. Al Gore, Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, as well as many other liberals and socialists also come to my mind.

    • Right Wing

      Your opinion is worthless. You throw out wild comments hoping to get a rise. I believe you probably are employed by Soros in one of his “Shadow Worlds”. Or maybe the Joyce Foundation? You fit the mission of such organizations to tear down from the inside. Everyone should realize that liberal means infectious parasite. Look for instance how the Joyce Foundation was hijacked and warped by liberals…
      Beatrice Joyce Kean established the Joyce Foundation in 1948 after accumulating hundreds of millions of dollars in the lumber industry (via family-owned timberlands, plywood and saw mills, and wholesale and retail building-material distribution facilities). During her lifetime, most of Ms. Kean’s modestly small philanthropic gifts were to apolitical recipients such as hospitals and health organizations. After her death in 1972, a professional staff took control of the Foundation and began to move it toward the political left. At first, universities and cultural institutions were added to its roster of grant recipients. A few years later, radical environmentalist and conservation groups entered the picture, as eventually did organizations dedicated to social justice, prison reform, and increased funding for government and social services, particularly for minorities. A notable recent member of the Joyce Foundation’s Board of Directors was Barack Obama, who ran successfully as the Democratic candidate for an Illinois Senate seat in 2004.

      • denniso

        ‘Liberal means infectious parasite’? You are listening to Savage and Limbaugh way too much and doing the bidding of them. If you knew any history you would know that your words,and their’s, are exactly the tactic that Hitler used to demonize and dehumanize his ‘ememies’ and victims. Are you really that clueless that you use Hitlerian methods and call yourself an American? You need help…

      • Barb

        Denniso, I don’t listen to Rush very often but I can assure you that he would not say a Liberal is an infectious parasite. He would come up with something much better than that more intellectual and more cutting actually! AND he would be right! Funny how you bring up Hitler since he is one of the Leftie’s GODS! We don’t emulate Hitler you Leftist progressive Libs do! Just like You are the racists and always call us racist! You guys get confused awfully easily don’t you?

      • denniso

        Limbaugh says that liberalism is a mental illness…Limbaugh is not even close to being ‘intellectual’, more like the right hand man of Hitler,Goebbels, the propoganda minister. And, liberals loathe Hitler and what he did…your comment is asinine and juvenile. How old are you? 13??

      • Mary

        Barb, don’t waste your time, Denniso is a lost case. He doesn’t see farest than his nose. The Truth hurt. He is Blind minded. I listen to a lot of people personally and on the radio and as my grandfather used to say: pick up the good and trash the rest.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Right Wing,
        No one in their right mind(or left mind) would employ dennislo to do political agitation. He is so lame at it they would never get their moneys worth!!!!

    • Dale

      What part of illegal do you not understand. So what if it is profiling, the fed has not done their job and we must take action because a bunch of these illegals are drug dealing criminals. You keep your beliefs, I hope reform does not pass and when the supreme court rules it unconstitutional, I hope they enforce it anyway. If they don’t I really hope that one of these illegals becomes a citizen and agrees to do your job for less placing you in the street.Or maybe your kids get involved in drugs with these illegals and their drug cartels. You should think before you open you mouth, because I didn’t know Pelosi had relatives on this site.

      • denniso

        Dale…’Illegal’??? Too bad life isn’t as simple as you’d like. When’s the last time you broke the speed limit law? Do you drive w/o a seatbelt at any time? Do you ever ‘innocently’ hide or shelter income from the IRS? Have you ever had a few drinks and still driven home when you know you’re breaking the law? Illegal??Like most people, the rightwing breaks the law every day in these obvious ways.
        Every time you speed you are putting others lives in greater danger and ignoring the law that was passed for public safety…how different is that from people walking across the border looking for work? Are they causing more damage than the thousands of deaths a year from drunk and reckless driving? You’re hypocrisy is way too obvious and blatant….

      • Barb

        GET REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Jana

        Barb,
        He is not paid to get real, nor does he have the ability. He looks at the world differently than most people do. They are afraid of us because we have finally found our voice. We have learned how they work and we are making a stand. They aren’t used to us making any stands, they are used to us sitting down and shutting up and not making any waves. They are the only ones allowed to make waves, you know like Bill Ayers.
        Well we HAVE found our voice and are no longer letting these bullies have their way. Their tactics actually have never changed, they have just gotten more aggressive about them. That’s all right. We are tougher now, we can take it!

      • denniso

        Janna…now that’s a hoot! We educated and tolerant people are afaid of you??? Boy oh boy…You think because most of you drool over and wave your guns around we’re afraid? Hardly…
        And you’ve ‘found your voice’??? Where the hell was your voice when Cheny/Bush were battering the constitution and spending a trillion $$ on two failed wars and another trillion on the drug bill and another trillion on tax cuts for the wealthy? Where was you voice when 5000 or more of our kids were killed in those wars and are still being killed? I can only guess that you ‘lost’ your voice when you had your dimwits in total control…

      • George E

        Denniso

        Interesting and logical argument. However, I still believe that illegal is illegal. Looking the other way regarding one crime doesn’t, or shouldn’t, justify another crime. I guess we’re all hypocrites at one time or another. After all, we’re human. However, if we start justifying crimes on that basis, we’re going to take this country down the drain. You can use your argument to justify any crime, I suppose, and you know that’s not right. Don’t you?

      • Jana

        George,
        I agree with you on this for sure. If we start accepting any illegal activities as the norm then we can justify all of them. Sure we have all broken the law by speeding, and if you’re like me you get caught. I had to go to class to relearn all about driving. I had to show the judge that I had taken that class. Have I sped since, not on purpose. If I catch myself doing so I slow down, it isn’t worth it. But the main thing is I didn’t get away with it, I had to pay with my money and my time.

        I have noticed that when these demonstrators go out and riot and throw bottles at the police the news depicts them as ‘victims’. When the TEA Party people gather together they are a mob. Hmmm sure is a double standard here.
        Another point, when the liberals and the illegals don’t like being told they are illegal they are standing up for their rights. When we call them illegal, then we are racists. More double speak and double standards.

      • denniso

        I’m not justifying one crime because other ones exist or are allowed. I’m responding to the comments that pretend the immigration issue is only about the law and illegality. If that were the case then why aren’t people up in arms over the other broken laws that citizens commit everyday and that aren’t enforced.
        Turning our country into more of a police state isn’t the answer. Patrol the border, fine large co’s that hire illegals and pay our workers enough so they will do the jobs that now only the mexicans will take.

    • Al Sieber

      We need this law here in Ariz. 70% of us want it. the Govt. won’t secure our borders, they didn’t under Bush and they won’t under Obama. it’s the states that give the Fed. Govt. power. the people of Ariz. are tired of being robbed, raped, beat up, kidnapped, scared, murdered etc. and we’re tired of these “blood sucking ticks” bankrupting our hospitals, and our social services. have you read bill 1070? these laws were already in place but not enforced,the Fed. govt. did not enforce then, so the people of Ariz. petitioned the governor to do something. how many times have you been stopped by the police and not asked for I.D.? I think this is just a way to push amnesty on us quicker.

      • Jana

        Al S.,
        I applaud Arizona for making a stand. The ones out there protesting are the illegals. Look at their tactics, they are using bully tactics to get their way. They have not come over here to assimilate, they have come over here to bull their way in and take over. They bring their laws of justice with them which is if they get in a fight they use knives on each other and then will run back across the border to not be apprehended by the law. They are now writing down on the pavement “burn this city down” and while out rioting are pointing fingers at the police acting like they are using a gun to shoot them. This will get a lot worse before it gets better. These people mean business. This is just like unleashing gangs on this city. They are bringing their gang mentality over here to use against us. We need to send all of the ILLEGALS home.

      • JC

        Damned straight. If they want what America has let them build it…in Mexico.

      • Claire

        Jana–I am with you on this. Your words are very true.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Jana
        As am I! Right is right!!

    • http://AnyStreet.org Horizon3

      I am getting really tired of you people misquoting the AZ Law Re:SB1070 Here is the Summary READ IT! http://is.gd/bJPlY I challenge you to find ANYTHING that discriminates against ANYONE in it. If you can’t just shut your pie hole and go back to the HuffPo and preach to your choir.

    • William Nealey

      no. the problem is with you STUPID left wingers.STUPID LIBERAL.

    • Ron O.

      Hellooooo American Liberal. Do you not understand that the United States Constitution does not apply to illegal, trespassing individuals? Entering this country illegally makes you a criminal. THAT IS THE LAW! Helloooo…..wake up. You have a ring in your nose and you are one of the lemmings being led around by the Obamma crooks. You’ve got it all bass ackwards. Right wing, left wing doesn’t matter anymore. The real Americans want our Republic back. The one that rewarded hard work and granted opportunity to those who came here looking for freedom. The government that exists now rewards laziness and those who do not want to contrubute to the nation’s prosperity and wealth. This Government wants to control every facet of your life including what kind of health care you can receive when you need it. Wake up! You’re type are the problem.

      • American Liberal

        Ron… I understand… But you don’t… Constitutionally I’m not concerned with the illegals …. It’s the Mexican Americans that were born here in America were talking about when were discussing constitutional violations…it’s aginst the 4th amendment to target people based on Race.. Do you understand yet?..maybe you should take a look at the 4th amendment and see how it reads…. So let’s be clear… It’s Mexican American CITIZENS .. Not the illegals that make this racist profiling law Unconstitutional… Get it?

      • Jana

        Am. Lib,
        Which part of the 4th Amendment?

        And, if that bothers you then lets just all have to do the same thing, show proof of citizenship anytime we are pulled over or have a cause to come in contact with a policeman. That would solve the whole problem. We have to show our drivers license and proof of insurance or give some ID anyway. (I watch cops). If someone who is illegal does nothng wrong like rioting in our streets, then they will have no probable cause. If they learn English and assimilate, then they will have no probable cause to be asked.

    • AJ

      If it is in the cotton field, it might be a boll weevil. It might not be. You sure as hell don’t ignore it and look the other way. You look at it. That cursory examination my friend is what you call “profiling.” If it turns out to not be a boll weevil after all, turn it loose. If it is, smash it. I am astounded at how unnecessarily muddled this issue has been made by power brokers buying votes with false promises.

      If I were Hispanic, Latino, or whatever… I would not mind proving my citizenship if it would remove suspicion and doubt. Those who are here legally are suspected and doubted because there are so many people here illegally. Our good friends will never feel they are our brothers and sisters until they know that we accept them fully. And that will never happen until a clean sweep is made to filter out the mexican drug-lords our legal family thought they were escaping by coming here.

      • kate8

        The libs feel that the intimidation, damage to life and property, loss of jobs, robberies, rapes, drug-running, murder and every type of crime committed against Americans is just a small price to pay to insure the sensitivities of anyone who might be mistaken for an illegal.

      • Jana

        kate8,
        Exactly!
        My daddy had a business downtown in a border town and was robbed. The illegals were secretly living on the roof of his building and came in through the roof.

        What most people who don’t have to face these conditions don’t understand is, these people have no good hygiene practices. They will go into a store and instead of going to the restroom to do their needs, they go into the dressing rooms and do it on the rug, this is men and women. They do it in the doorways of the businesses downtown. They stand in front of store windows and doors and people will not walk through this sea of people to go into the stores.
        My parents had to go an hour early every day just to clean up outside their store which at times was very disgusting. My husband helped my daddy clear the roof and repair it. They had a mattress up there and cooking pots. We were just thankful they didn’t burn the building down. All along the whole street, there were break ins. Daddy had to finally give up and go out of business.
        Just think about the farmers when they come across their property. These farmers and their families do not feel safe in any way, and they aren’t safe. I have lived this life, I know what it is, and it is not good.

      • kate8

        Jana, I’m so sorry your family had to go through that. This is what libs are fighting for – the ability of illegals to continue to harm Americans. It’s hard to believe they find this acceptable.

        I’m afraid that is what the country is headed for if we don’t stop it. And the hygiene issue is a big one, as even legal immigrants are no longer screened for diseases. We now have resurgences of terrible diseases we had wiped out because of screening. Illegals with TB, hepatitis, and any number of diseases work in restaurants, food processing plants and places where they spread their infections illnesses, and no one cares. I even have a friend who came down with TB, and he is a clean fanatic. He was stunned to learn this. It had to have come from one of these sources.

      • angel-wanna-be

        Jana, Jeez o man, I’m sorry, that’s digusting for anyone to have to go through. And your right Jana, no one knows unless you’ve lived it, thanks for your personal story, and here’s hoping, that some of these Liberal idiots read it, and weep!

      • laura

        Jana-it’s stories like yours that need to be heard. I pray more will listen.
        Thanks for sharing.
        GOD BLESS
        AND GOD BLESS AMERICA

      • Claire

        Jana– I am sorry about your Dad losing his business because of these lowlife. But I am glad you posted this information. People need to know this, and realize exactly what is happening and why we must send the illegals packing!

      • Jana

        Kate, angel, laura, and Claire,
        Thanks. It’s just a bad memory. I even have a few more of them.

    • http://goeaston.net shorebarb

      I think you had better look over Nobama’s agenda before you accuse the Tea Party and the Conservative Right Wing of this Country of tyranny. Please get you fact straight or stay off of this blog.

      Obama is now in charge of GM and Chrysler. He is now in charge of Heath Care. He lied about illegal aliens getting free health care. He lied about Federal funding of abortion. He now wants to take over the Financial markets. What will be left? Get over it. He is basically a liar and the American people have now found out. What goes around comes around. His comeuppance will be this November and November 2012. We have had enough. When people who live near a border cannot feel safe in their own homes due to illegal immigrants and drug cartels it has to stop.

    • BOE

      Man ..do you have things back assward.

      • BOE

        That was for liberal.

  • http://www.obamalies.net Stephaan

    What all those ignorant ethnic organizations fail to realize is that it IS NOT A CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUE like they are saying!
    The ILLEGAL ALIENS ARE HERE ILLEGALLY, AND THE CONSTITUTION DOES NOT APPLY TO THEM!! PERIOD, END OF STORY!!

    The ILLEGAL ALIENS that are here ILLEGALLY, have broken the law!
    Hellooooooooooo? They are criminals!
    Every state should pass a law like this since our INEPT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT won’t do their job and close the borders!

    HNBA National President Roman D. Hernandez, the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, La Razza, and the A.C.L.U. are a bunch of ignorant liberal ——-sticks!

    • William Nealey

      you should have added CORRUPT in your statement,

  • s c

    Is Roman Hernandez out of his mind? He’s “concerned” that Arizona’s recent ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT bill ‘will create an impediment to effective police enforcement of major crimes.’ He sounds like he’s never understood English. It is the government’s REFUSAL to do its constitutionally-required job that has created and maintained multiple problems.
    Does Hernandez ever listen to the words he spews? Is he a trained monkey for people who have hidden agendas? He may qualified to be an Obummer czar, but Hernandez is also typical of a defective mentality that creates and maintains problems so ‘certain’ people who sell protected status can have job security (career, criminal politicians).
    Hernandez is a first-rate imitation of Hitler’s Lord HaHa in WWII. How can anyone not see this airhead for what he’s trying to do to America in the name of social engineering?
    Give ‘em hell, Arizona. Do what is right, and do it the first time. Lenin’s Bolsheviks were wrong. Hitler was wrong. Stalin was wrong. Mao was wrong. Saul Alinsky was wrong, and King George Obummer is worse than WRONG.

    • Jana

      sc,
      In watching the news reports and the hispanics out on the streets rioting much like they do in 3rd world countries, we can see that it is mostly the illegals that are demonstrating. And yes, YES I can tell an illegal most of the time just by looking at them. I live in Texas and believe me they are pretty well distinguishable.
      No, I am not a racist. I welcome anyone coming over here legally. That is spelled L E G A L L Y which is for the unfortunate people like Am. Lib. who cannot read or comprehend common sense.

      • David

        Ya know what’s interesting? The democrats want to turn the illegals into voters, only. They don’t dare want them to go after jobs which may displace union workers. So then what? DRAG our country down the tubes more quickly? Yes

      • denniso

        Anyone w/ the ability to think rationally should boycott Arizona…don’t travel there, don’t buy gas there, don’t eat in their restaurants…stay away and keep your money out of the state. The law will last about a month and be a ridiculous part of their history.

      • whatnextnow

        Why cause its legal to go there and you are against everything illegal, including Illegal aliens that dont belong here

      • http://goeaston.net shorebarb

        The law is an exact duplication of the Federal Law. It is not unconstitutional. If you are in this country illegally you need to leave. Arizona is footing the bill for almost 1/2 million illegals. They are educating their children, giving them medical benefits and every other benefit which is supposed to be for American citizens not illegal immigrants. The Feds have dropped the ball and Arizona has to keep its’ legal citizens from being kidnapped and murdered along with its’ law enforcement officers. I will gladly go to Arizona and spend my money when I know it is safe to do so. All of us who believe in the rule of law should do so to support a state which has put up with this for far too long.

      • marvin

        TO DENNISO you have the right to say what you are saying if and from what i assume that you are a citizen of the united states if not you have no rights to express your opinion this country was built by hard working people from all over the world that came here to help and to work not have kids and demand that we the citizens treat them as citizens even to breaking the law that we the citizen have to abide byArizona has a god given right to defend is citizens that have said enuf is enuf i say the arizona law will stand because the federal goverment cares not about we the people that have to obay the law and allow criminals yes criminal it is a crime to be here undocumented to with the help of people like you to demand the same rights afforted to legal immigrants and one more point you seem to ignore the voters of arizona voted yes voted now thats not hard even for me to understand you are aware of the right to vote that is a process were you reg to vote then go to the poles and vote then the reps and sen vote if it passes the gov then signs it in to law then people are happy if the goverment goes agin,s the will of the people then they vote you out now that not to hard to understand is it lame brain

      • C L

        Denniso – From One Arizona Citizen: If you were from, lived or had seen or experienced just one tenth of the crime, dismay, destruction and terror for which these illegal immigrants bring with them when they invade, then maybe you would understand where we are coming from.I stand firmly against ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS costing us an average of $30,000 per person per year. No wonder we are so indebt and can’t seem to find enough money for LEGAL U.S. CITIZENS.Illegal immigrants pay an average of $5,000 per person to be smuggled in to the U.S. – legal immigrants pay $500 to live here as U.S. citizens. You can’t get citizenship in the U.S. if you are a felon and/or if you don’t really want the U.S. as your Country. So, the question is – if you really want to live, work and raise your family here, then why would you pay 10X’s as much to be here? Answer: Because you are a ciminal and/or you just want to take from your hard working U.S. neighbors. Just because you don’t live in AZ does not mean that illegal immigrants don’t effect you. Did you know illegal immigrants are taking the jobs from U.S. citizens from coast to coast. They are smugled in and sent in every direction, they commit crimes in every state of the U.S., receive Social Security benefits, free medical care, etc. You don’t have to live in AZ to know that we can’t afford this.

      • Mildred Decker

        Wow, and you probably voted for Obama as well as being an Illegal!

      • Mildred Decker

        My comments were directed at the fool who is recommending we boycott Arizona, written by one who is obviously UNINFORMED AS TO WHAT SOCIALISM IS AND WHAT IT DOES TO A COUNTRY – GOD BLESS AMERICA AND HELP US SURVIVE WHAT IS BEING DONE TO DESTROY US!

      • kilrntex

        (words removed for offensive content) There’s millions of us just waiting for the time when it all comes down. GET SOME! GET SOME!! I hope Texas enacts the same laws as Arizona and then I hope the demonstrators come out and raise the same hell as they did in Arizona. Send the illegal scum back to hell with a liberal on their backs. As they say in the oilfield, “my kelly is down with all this mess”! LOCK AND LOAD UP!

      • JC

        Think I’ll finally but that condo with a pool in Scottsdale.
        Looks like Az. is the first to start doing something sensible about
        the infestation.

      • Jo

        Are you kidding? After they passed the law gaoing after illegals I’m thinking of moving there. Finally someone is thinking for the American people. Way to go Arizona, hope the other 49 states follow suit and finally stop the raiding of America.

      • http://GOGGLE vaksal

        WHILE THE PEOPLE PROTESTING HERE IN THE UNITED STATES ARE SCREAMING THAT ITS RACISIM ,LETS CALL A SPADE A SPADE,FIRST THE STATE OF ARIZONA IS FIGHTING FOR ITS LIFE ,OH YES ITS THAT BAD ITS NO LONGER SAFE TO GO OUT INTO THE STREETS OF ANY CITY IN ARIZONA,WHY WOULD I THINK THIS ,WELL THE FACT IS JUST ACROSS THE UNGAURDED BORDER ( THANKS TO THE BOYS AND GIRLS IN WASHINGTON) THERE IS A MASSIVE DRUG WAR GOING ON AND OVER 1800 HUNDRED PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED JUST IN THE LAST YEAR ALONE AND THE WAR HAS SPILT OVER THE BORDER NOT ONLY IN ARIZONA BUT IN ALL THE BORDER STATES,BUT ARIZONA HAS BEEN GETTING THE WORST OF IT IN KILLINGS AND DRUG GANGS AND YES ITS SAD TO SAY BUT ITS FROM MEXICO,WHY BECAUSE THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT IS POWERLESS TO FIGHT IT,WHY? BECAUSE OF THE VERY NATURE OF THE BEAST,DOWN MEXICO WAY,BUT PEOPLE ARE SO FED UP BY THE CRIME WAVE IN ARIZONA ,WHAT ELSE CAN THEY DO ,BUT BY FINDING AND WEEDING OUT THESE EVIL PEOPLE OUT OF ARIZONA AND ITS A SHAME THAT THE VERY MEXICAN COMMUNITY HAS TO PAY THE PRICE,BUT THATS THEIR PROBLEM,WHY SHOULD ANYONE HAVE TO PUT UP WITH ALL THIS LAWLESS ACTIVITY ,BECAUSE OF LAWLESS PEOPLE,SO SOME BAD PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING HERE WITH PEOPLE THAT JUST WANT A BETTER LIFE HERE,AND IN RETURN OUR PEOPLE ARE VICTIMIZED ,MURDERED AND RAPED OR KIDNAPPED OR THERE SAFETY IS SECOND TO A WAVE OF LAWLESS PEOPLE THAT DONT THINK OUR LAWS MEAN NOTHING TO THEM,WELL THATS THEIR PROBLEM,NOT ANYONE ELSE,I SAY GO BACK TO MEXICO AND CLEAN UP YOUR LAWLESS NATION ,BUT DO SCREAM RACISIM ,FOR IT NOT THAT ,BUT ITS CALLED HAVING NO RESPECT FOR THE LAWS OF THIS NATION THE UNITED STATES,WHAT TYPE OF MESS IS IT CAUSING JUST LOOK AROUND THE WHOLE NATION ,DRUG GANGS,AND GANGS MS-13,THE LATIN KINGS AND EVERY OTHER FOUL THING THESE LAW BRAKERS HAVE BROUGHT WITH THEM,PERSONALLY I LIKE HISPANICS FOR THEY ARE A GOOD BUNCH OF PEOPLE,BUT SOMEONE HAS TO SET UP A SET OF RULES TO GET THE BAD ONES OUT OTHERWISE THE STATE OF ARIZONA WILL TURN INTO THE SAME KILLING ZONE AS IN MEXICO,DENNSIO I RESPECT THRUTH OVER HYPE AND IT SEEMS YOU REALLY DONT KNOW WHATS GOING ON DOWN THEIR ,I DO FOR I HAVE FAMILY DOWN THAT NECK OF THE WOODS AND ITS GOTTEN SO BAD THAT TUSON IS LIKE A WAR ZONE,DONT GO OUT AT NIGHT IF YOU ARE NOT PART OF A MEXICAN GANG AND IF YOU ARE A WOMEN YOU MIGHT BE RAPED OR KIDNAPPED OR MURDERED LIKE THAT RANCHER AND SEE YOUR CHILDERN GET HOOK ON DRUGS,WHY BECAUSE ALL THE MORONS THAT ARE CRYING OH! WE ARE BEING PICKED ON ARE( ILLEAGAL)THE POINT IS IF THEY DONT LIKE LAW AND ORDER,WHY DID THEY COME HERE TO OVERTHROW THIS NATIONS LAWS? IF THEY DONT LIKE IT JUST GO BACK ,ITS THAT SIMPLE! AND AS FAR AS THE LEAGAL MEXICANS HERE,WELCOME TO THIS NATION ,AND THE REST GO BACK AND TAKE MOVE IN WITH EVERY THUG THAT CAME UP HERE WITH YOU LAWLESS PEOPLE.AND AS FAR AS JOE ARIPIEO THE SHERIFF AND THE GOVERNOR OF ARIZONA ,KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK,FOR YOU ARE DOING WHAT MUST BE DONE ,OR CHAOS WILL TAKE OVER THE STATE OF ARIZONA,AND AS FAR AS WASHINGTON,WELL ITS SAD TO SAY THAT IF DOGS HAD FLEAS,THE KENNEL( WASHINGTON DC IS OVERRUN WITH OVERPAYED FLEA RIDDEN DOGS THAT ARE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT ILLEAGALS THAN THE VERY PEOPLE THAT LIVE LAWFULLY IN THIS NATION,GET OUT OF THE KENNEL AND DO YOUR JOBS AND GUARD THE PEOPLE THAT GIVE YOU EMPLOYMENT AND IT SURE ISNT THE PEOPLE IN MEXICO,THE POINT IS LETS VOTE OUT EVERY BUM THAT IS PUSHING THIS GARBAGE,OF LETS NOT FOLLOW THE LAWS OF THIS NATION,I REST MY CASE!

      • http://naver samurai

        I don’t know what planet you came from, but go ahead and return with a quickness! I live in Indiana and it was very hard to find good paying work because of all the illegal immigrants coming here from south of our boarder. I’m glad our governor has set up programs to deal with this problem. Larger fines, immigration sweeps, jail time, and other are just part of our program to deal with this. Good job Arizona!

      • Palin12

        No denniso, I will not be boycotting Arizona. In fact, I will be visiting more often now.

      • denniso

        It’s a free country, do what you like. But you’re wasting your money.
        When Az and the cowardly and money hungry Repubs see how much money they’re losing from canceled tourism and convention biz, they’ll cave and rescind the law…I give them about 3 months before they wimp out.

      • Palin12

        I am a 45-minute drive from the AZ-NV state line at Hoover Dam. And I don’t consider visiting the Grand Canyon a waste of money. When I have a little more time, I also like to visit Tombstone, a very historical town known for the OK Corral and Boothill Cemetary.

      • Mary

        IF THE HONDURIAN PEOPLE IN CENTRAL AMERICA HAD THE BALLS TO PUT UP WITH INTERNATIONAL PRESSURE FROM ALL THE PROSTITUTE OGANIZATIONS LIKE OEA, EU AND OBAMA. WHY ARIZONA WON’T DO IT. ASAP I’LL VISIT ARIZONA. I’VE NEVER BEEN THERE BUT AFTER THE CLEANNING FOR SURE I’LL GO.

      • Sharon

        Excuse me! I am a 66 year old widow living in rural Arizona. I am armed if necessary to protect my home, and I carry concealed. If I drive out of Arizona, I am immediately confronted by unemployed Hispanics standing on street corners looking for cash jobs. And the others work in fast food restaurants, laundries, hotels, construction, and other service industries, taking jobs away from unemployed Americans. Perhaps you are a little “rich kid” or career student, because you sure don’t understand the problem of unemployed Americans who are losing their homes and businesses, as well as their lives. Why don’t you get a job with the Border Patrol and find out what is going on???

      • JeffH

        kilrntex, go back to your liberal buddies and peddle your violent wares with them..I’m not buyin’ your leftist deceptive glutius maximis for one minute. You’re a liberal hack!

      • http://PERSONALLIBERTYDIGEST ANDREA66

        RE: BEV PURDUE LOST A LOT OF RESPECT FOR HER WHEN SWANNANOA
        CITIZENS VOTED AGAINST ANNEXATION AND GOV BEV REVERSED THE
        RULING – IT WAS LIKE SPITTING IN THE CITIZENS FACE – JUST
        SO ASHEVILLE WOULD BENEFIT FROM THE CLIFFS TAXES. A DISGRACE.

      • David

        If you lived in New Bern, NC (her home town) that would have been a different story. Ya know, I’m thinking about taking my family on vacation to Az this summer….that’s my kind of state!

    • Marilyn

      Check out CNN and the report on illegals and amnesty. That will rock your socks off.

    • Mary

      SC we need a cleaning in this country and fast. They should put in jail as many as possible of those animals rioting in Arizona and sent them where they came from the ones without papers. They don’t do that in any country in the world just here for the weaknes of the government. They let this country become a pigs field. All the rest 49 states should follow Arizona for love to what is left of this once Great Country. If somebody don’t like it PLEASE LEAVE. We have to much non-grata population.

    • William Nealey

      the far left and their trained monkeys will do and say anything to keep our borders open so they can keep new democrat voters coming in,

      • George E

        Exactly! The “funny” thing is if the Democrats believed that most of the illegal immigrants would vote Republican given the chance, Democrats would build a fence so high on the border you couldn’t see the top, and would spend billions on border enforcement.

    • Ron O.

      First of all, why are they calling these Mexicans, Latinos? They are Hispanics. As for impeding “major crime investigations,” a lot of those major crimes will be prevented by getting all of those illegal drug dealers out of our country. Arizona is just doing what the Federal Government has failed to do and we know why the Federal Government has not done anything about the illegal, trespassing Mexicans. The Democrats in power want to make them citizens and secure their votes at our expense. THAT IS THE AGENDA. Anyhow, S C, you are right on.

      • denniso

        Are you people above really as dumb as you seem, or is this all an act
        and you’re just having a little fun? If you’re serious and actually think you make any sense at all on this issue and don’t realize that you’re all being led by the nose, then you have my pity.

      • marvin

        denniso i have a novel idea, befor you and that other idiot american liberal post ,try thinking i know that may get in the way of what you conceive in your pea brain lies told as the truth but you may start thing for your self and not as a clone of obama reid pelosie hell you may get to were you can walk talk and chew gum as the same time with out help and god forbid and even make some sence

      • American Liberal

        Lmaoo.. Blondi… To much Coffee this morning…or are you a child with an unlimited supply of sugar…..?… Bottomline… When the courts get the 1st profiling case that targets a natural American citizen this ignorant law in Arizona will be overturned…..you can’t target people based on ethnic looks…. What if they passed a law that anybody that looked like” Larry the Cable guy” had to show papers to walk down the street?… Most of you republican Tea baggers would have a fit…. I thought you were concerned with losing right, upholding the constitution and tyranny?… Oh, being on a public street or in a private car isn’t like profiling potential terrorist on planes… I better tell you why… You choose to be on a plane… But you walk city streets as part of everyday life… Same with being in a private auto… You have 4th amendment rights….on commercial plane you give up your 4th amendment right… So says the Patriot act…. Just so you know… I oppose the Patriot act… And so should you..it shreds the constitution and bill of rights.. Especially your 4th amendment rights

      • http://goeaston.net shorebarb

        This is really ridiculous. Just because someone is Hispanic does not mean they will be stopped. If they create a situation in which there is probable cause to stop them, i.e. speeding, drunk driving, beating up their girlfriend, robbing a store, climbing over a wall at the border etc., they will be stopped. They will not be stopped for walking down the street or going about their business like every other person. These statements of yours are typical ACLU type liberal agenda items which have no relevance to the situation. They are meant to incite people and make people who believe in our laws and our right to not be invaded by illegal immigrants look bad. The villians are not the American Citizens. The villians are the illegal immigrants and you cannot put a good face on commiting a crime. It is illegal and they must go along with their free ticket children. They have no right to be here.

      • George E

        Well said. Thanks.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Actors and Criminals Lawyer Unit!!!!!!! ACLU!!

      • JLC

        Liberal Americano ¡Tú eres poco loco in la cabeza! In case you don’t understand that, it says that you are crazy in the head. Citizens, as well as non-citizens who are in the country legally, have constitutional rights. Aliens in the country ILLEGALLY have the same rights as would a burglar in your home. The key word there is “illegally.” It is as simple as that.

      • JLC

        Oops ! Spelling error. That should have read “en la cabeza”

      • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Randy

        If Larry the Cable Guy look-alikes were entering this counrty illegally and started breaking other laws also, then yes they shoud be stopped and check to see if they’re here legally or not. Its time to start enforcing our immigration laws because the consequences are becoming to great and our citizens are losing their lives, and you can’t do that by sticking your head in the sand, you have to pro-active to enforce any law. To bad you liberals can’t convince regular American citizens to back your agendas, but have to import foreigners to do so by turning your backs on our laws and putting all of us in danger. This Arizona law is really unneeded if the federal government would just enforce their own laws, but then where would Obama, Nancy, and Harry get the votes to keep them in power? Murders, drug smugglers, and kidnappers are all using this border to get to our citizens to perpetrate these crimes, but to stop this the federal government would have to also stop the human trafficking, and there goes the future democratic voter pool. Regular American voters have had enough of the democratic agenda and change. They’re fed up with it and will make a change of their own. These illegal aliens and their supporters are the only ones ignorant enough to want more and only because they think they will get citizenship from it. Obama has just told Congress this is the issue he wants to fix next, so watch how he and the Democrats push for amnesty and citizenship for all these illegal aliens before the November elections, in a desparate attempt to keep themselves in power. If this happens, then
        Viva la Revolucione, Americans will no longer wait for the enforcement of the law but take matters into their own hands, just ask those American citizens in Arizona living next to this border.

      • BOE

        Liberal fool….go spend some time in the ER any night of the week..and see what goes on. And the sad part is not only do we pay for these illegals health care but 99% are drunk! Most likely all of them are drunk and brought all the kids with them!! Very sad

      • tkmfarm

        We already have to have iegal I.D.. WE call it a driver license or picture I.D.. It is required by law.

    • Gerlof

      You know what? I don’t really give a damn what these”protestors
      think or want!! If the law passed–OH WELL,then
      that is the law!Don’t like it?GO SOMEWHERE ELSE!!
      If you are legal and WORK and PAY TAXES,you have
      nothing to worry about.If you are a liability to
      AMERICANS,GET THE HELL OUT OF AMERICA!!!

      • cherir

        I agree with what you said. We don’t have enough jobs for the educated, English speaking citizens of this country so why bring in these illegals who do not learn English, take jobs away from citizens, murder and rape people of this country, bring in illegal drugs to sell to our children.
        Darryl Steinburg of Sacramento, Ca and the minority professional ballplayers are against this law so why don’t they donate their high dollars back to Mexico to set up schools, jobs, and health care for these illegals so they stay in Mexico. If they had something to offer these people down south they would not be entering the USA.

    • http://PersonalLibertyDigest Randy

      I completely agree with you. Enforce the law and make our citizens safe and don’t let political correctness get in the way, but use common sense as did the founding fathers of this once great nation. Its time to take our country back from those who want our laws broken for the gratification and benefit of themselves. This includes Obama, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, and all Democrats who think these illegal aliens will provide them with a majority over the conservatives to keep them in power.

      • cherir

        Have you heard that our great politicians like OBama, Reid and Pelosi are in the process of granting statehood to Puerto Rico as our 51st state because they would capture more Democratic votes?

    • OB58says:

      Hey sc, Personal Interests is their big AGENDA, also trying hard to intimidate THE AMERICAN PEOPLE… Not going to work so bit it!

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