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Davy Crockett and the U.S. Constitution

April 9, 2010 by  

Davy Crockett and the U.S. Constitution

When you hear the name “Davy Crockett,” what do you think of?

If you’re of “a certain age,” as the more diplomatic among us like to say, you probably think of Fess Parker wearing a coonskin cap. The incredibly popular television program in which he starred had every boy in America (and a few girls, too) clamoring for their own buckskin jacket and coonskin cap.

A few years later John Wayne played Davy Crockett in the film The Alamo, laying down his life at the Alamo for the cause of Texas’ independence. About the same time the Kingston Trio had a hit with a song called “Remember the Alamo.” I can still remember most of the lyrics.

But before the events portrayed in the movie and the television show, the famed frontiersman served for a couple of terms in the United States Congress—from 1827 to 1831 and again from 1833 to 1835.

After his defeat in the 1834 election he said, “I told the people of my district that I would serve them faithfully as I had done; but if not… you may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas.” He eventually did, and died on March 6, 1836, when the Alamo finally fell to Mexican troops after an 11-day siege.

It is an episode from his time in Congress that I want to tell you about today. Davy himself first told the tale, in a speech on the floor of the House that he later reprinted under the title “Sockdolager!”

A “sockdolager” is one of those slap-your-forehead moments, when something suddenly becomes blindingly clear to you. That’s how Davy felt when he came to realize that his understanding of the U.S. Constitution was sadly lacking. Here’s what happened.

Near the end of his first term, Davy decided to visit the western edge of his district to see how much support he’d get if he decided to seek reelection. To appreciate how different campaigning was back then, let me quote the beginning of Davy’s tale:

“So I put a couple of shirts and a few twists of tobacco into my saddle-bags and put out. I had been out about a week, and had found things going very smoothly, when, riding one day in a part of my district in which I was more of a stranger than any other, I saw a man in a field plowing and coming toward the road. I gauged my gait so that we should meet as he came to the fence.”

Can you believe it? No fancy entourage, no public relations flacks paving the way, no reporters covering the scene. Not even a buggy with a suitcase or two; it was just Davy, a horse, and a couple of saddle-bags. Life sure was different back then, wasn’t it?

Davy introduces himself to the farmer and says, “I am one of those unfortunate beings called candidates, and ….”

Before he could continue, the man interrupted and said, “Yes, I know you; you are Colonel Crockett. I have seen you once before and voted for you the last time you were elected. I supposed you are out electioneering now, but you had better not waste your time or mine. I shall not vote for you again.”

Needless to say, the young congressman is surprised and asks the man why on earth not. The farmer replies, “You gave a vote last winter which shows that either you have not capacity to understand the Constitution or that you are wanting in the honesty and firmness to be guided by it. In either case, you are not the man to represent me.”

As Davy says, when he later related the story on the floor of Congress, “This was a sockdolager!” I told the man, “There must be some mistake, for I do not remember that I gave my vote last winter upon any constitutional question.” The man replies, “No, Colonel, there’s no mistake. Though I live here in the back woods and seldom go from home, I take the papers from Washington and read very carefully all the proceedings of Congress. My papers say that last winter you voted for a bill to appropriate $20,000 to some sufferers by a fire in Georgetown. Is that true?”

Crockett replies, “Certainly it is. And I thought that was the last vote for which anybody in the world would have found fault with.”

Then comes the classic denouement: “Well, Colonel, where do you find in the Constitution any authority to give away the public money in charity?”

Let me pick up the rest of this part of the story, exactly as Davy Crockett told it on the floor of Congress: “Here was another sockdolager; for, when I began to think about it, I could not remember a thing in the Constitution that authorized it. I found I must take another tack, so I said:  ‘“Well, my friend; I may as well own up. You have got me there. But certainly nobody will complain that a great and rich country like ours should give the insignificant sum of $20,000 to relieve its suffering women and children, particularly with a full and overflowing Treasury, and I am sure, if you had been there, you would have done just as I did.’

I’d love to share the farmer’s entire response with you, but I don’t have room here. Instead, let me do two things. First, let me direct you to Davy Crockett’s complete speech. Personal Liberty Digest has created a special link to “Sockdolager!” by Davy Crockett. To see it, just click here. (And while you’re there, why not send it to a few dozen of your friends?)

Second, let me go right to the farmer’s concluding remarks. He told the congressman, “When Congress once begins to stretch its power beyond the limits of the Constitution, there is no limit to it, and no security for the people.”

Davy has no choice but to acknowledge the truth of what he’s heard. He tells the man, ‘“Well, my friend, you hit the nail upon the head when you said I had not sense enough to understand the Constitution. I intended to be guided by it, and thought I had studied it fully. I have heard many speeches in Congress about the powers of Congress, but what you have said here at your plow has got more hard, sound sense in it than all the fine speeches I ever heard.

“If I had ever taken the view of it that you have, I would have put my head into the fire before I would have given that vote, and if you will forgive me and vote for me again, if I ever vote for another unconstitutional law I wish I may be shot.”

What are the chances, ladies and gentlemen, that your congressman would ever make such an admission—or such a speech—today?

You really should read the rest of the story. You’ll be delighted to learn that when Congressman Crockett gets back to Washington, the House has taken up a bill to appropriate money for the wife of a distinguished naval officer. Everyone who has spoken about it has declared himself in favor. It looks like it will pass unanimously when Davy Crockett takes the floor.

To read what he says, and what happens next, please click here to enjoy Davy Crockett’s “Sockdolager!”

And remember the story the next time your congressman votes to take your money for some government activity that is nowhere to be found in our Constitution.

Until next Friday, keep some powder dry.

—Chip Wood

Chip Wood

is the geopolitical editor of PersonalLiberty.com. He is the founder of Soundview Publications, in Atlanta, where he was also the host of an award-winning radio talk show for many years. He was the publisher of several bestselling books, including Crisis Investing by Doug Casey, None Dare Call It Conspiracy by Gary Allen and Larry Abraham and The War on Gold by Anthony Sutton. Chip is well known on the investment conference circuit where he has served as Master of Ceremonies for FreedomFest, The New Orleans Investment Conference, Sovereign Society, and The Atlanta Investment Conference.

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  • Norman

    Forget Davey & Daniel.Watch the video with Judge Napolitano on this site. This should scare the shit out of all of you. Could they be used to disarm this country. For what reason do we need to fund a private army? Perhaps to protect Obama. Wake-up America. Can you see what’s happening here? We are taxed to death now. It will never be enough for those bastards in Washington. You’ll just keep working and sending it in. They’ll take care of you. Warren Buffett sez we need to pay more taxes. He has numerous offshore accounts [Berkshire companies] in Panama to avoid taxes. Can you believe it? Wake up people you are being bamboozeled. There is no factual data. Everything is manipulated.

    • JeffH

      Obama’s Private Army? Obama’s Private Army now law. Hidden in health care bill‏http://www.personalliberty.com/feature-video/obamas-private-army/

      March 31, 2010 — I know it’s FOX News, but it is the substance that counts here. Remember Obama saying that we need a “civilian army that is just as well trained and funded as the military”? Well, here it is. Tucked away in the middle of the over 2,000 page health care monstrosity that nobody in congress bothered to even read.

      This is not just an expansion of the National Guard, no. This is a private health corp. that is to be trained by the military and will be under the direct command of the president. This is nothing short of tyranny and fascism, but many of the kool-aid drinkers will find a way to justify and defend this as well, despite the fact that it is in direct violation of the law that their beloved president took oath to uphold.

      I mean, come on. What do we need a private health care enforcement core for? What the hell does the military have to do with health care? Is it not enough that you are going to be MANDATED to by health care under the threat of penalty? Use your brains and for god’s sake…WAKE UP, people. This is not about republicans vs democrats. It is about WRONG VS RIGHT.

      • Smilee

        SPIN SPIN SPIN, YOUR LIES, LIES, LIES, HERE JEFFIE IS THE TRUE STORY:

        Obama’s “Private Army”

        April 7, 2010
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        Q: Did the new health care law give Obama a Nazi-like “private army” of 6,000 people?

        A: No. Contrary to false Internet rumors, the new Ready Reserve Corps of doctors and other health workers will report to the surgeon general and be like the “ready reserves” in other uniformed services. They will be used during health emergencies.

        FULL QUESTION

        I just received an e-mail concerning a section of the new healthcare bill establishing a “ready reserve health corps” of 6,000. Some, Fox News, are saying this is an attempt to erode our freedoms. Should we run to our bunkers?

        Obama Just Got His Private Army

        Were you aware of the fact that the health care bill created a civilian army?

        A Ready Reserve Corps for service in time of national emergency.
        All commissioned officers shall be citizens of the United States and shall be appointed without regard to the civil-service laws (which means they will not be sworn to uphold the Constitution) and compensated without regard to the Classification Act 2 of 1923, as amended.

        Remember when Obama said he wanted a “national security force”? Not the national guard, but a civilian one that has not sworn to uphold the Constitution?

        ⬐ Click to expand/collapse the full text ⬏
        On July 2, 2008 in a speech in Colorado Springs, Barack Obama called for a police state. Remember that first alarming glimpse of what that army might look like? Notice how much these “Hitler youth” type young men talk about health care!

        Obama just got his private army… and no one seems to have noticed. It is buried in the Senate revisions to the health care bill.
        Subtitle C–Increasing the Supply of the Health Care Workforce
        Sec. 5201. Federally supported student loan funds.
        Sec. 5202. Nursing student loan program.
        Sec. 5203. Health care workforce loan repayment programs.
        Sec. 5204. Public health workforce recruitment and retention programs.
        Sec. 5205. Allied health workforce recruitment and retention programs.
        Sec. 5206. Grants for State and local programs.
        Sec. 5207. Funding for National Health Service Corps.
        Sec. 5208. Nurse-managed health clinics.
        Sec. 5209. Elimination of cap on commissioned corps.
        Sec. 5210. Establishing a Ready Reserve Corps.
        Subtitle D–Enhancing Health Care Workforce Education and Training
        See the Patient Protection Affordable Care Act, page 1312:

        SEC. 5210. ESTABLISHING A READY RESERVE CORPS.

        Section 203 of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 204) is amended to read as follows:
        SEC. 203. COMMISSIONED CORPS AND READY RESERVE CORPS.

        (a) ESTABLISHMENT:
        (1) IN GENERAL.–here shall be in the Service a commissioned Regular Corps and a Ready Reserve Corps for service in time of national emergency.

        (2) REQUIREMENT.–All commissioned officers shall be citizens of the United States and shall be appointed without regard to the civil-service laws and compensated without regard to the Classification Act 2 of 1923, as amended.

        (3) APPOINTMENT.–Commissioned officers of the Ready Reserve Corps shall be appointed by the President and commissioned officers of the Regular Corps shall be appointed by the President with the advice and consent of the Senate.

        (4) ACTIVE DUTY.–Commissioned officers of the Ready Reserve Corps shall at all times be subject to call to active duty by the Surgeon General, including active duty for the purpose of training.

        (5) WARRANT OFFICERS.–Warrant officers may be appointed to the Service for the purpose of providing support to the health and delivery systems maintained by the Service and any warrant officer appointed to the Service shall be considered for purposes of this Act and title 37, United States Code, to be a commissioned officer within the Commissioned Corps of the Service.

        (b) ASSIMILATING RESERVE CORP OFFICERS INTO THE REGULAR CORPS: Effective on the date of enactment of the Affordable Health Choices Act, all individuals classified as officers in the Reserve Corps under this section (as such section existed on the day before the date of enactment of such Act) and serving on active duty shall be deemed to be commissioned officers of the Regular Corps. [Note here that those personally appointed by BO -- without the advice and consent of the Senate -- automatically become a part of the Regular Corps. Ed.]

        (c) PURPOSE AND USE OF READY RESERVE:
        (1) PURPOSE. The purpose of the Ready Reserve Corps is to fulfill the need to have additional Commissioned Corps personnel available on short notice (similar to the uniformed service’s reserve program) to assist regular Commissioned Corps personnel to meet both routine public health and emergency response missions.

        (2) USES: The Ready Reserve Corps shall–

        (A) participate in routine training to meet the general and specific needs of the Commissioned Corps;
        (B) be available and ready for involuntary calls to active duty during national emergencies and public health crises, similar to the uniformed service reserve personnel;
        (C) be available for backfilling critical positions left vacant during deployment of active duty Commissioned Corps members, as well as for deployment to respond to public health emergencies, both foreign and domestic; and
        (D) be available for service assignment in isolated, hardship, and medically underserved communities (as defined in section 399SS) to improve access to health services.

        (d) FUNDING.—For the purpose of carrying out the duties and responsibilities of the Commissioned Corps under this section, there are authorized to be appropriated such sums as may be necessary to the Office of the Surgeon General for each of fiscal years 2010 through 2014. Funds appropriated under this subsection shall be used for recruitment and training of Commissioned Corps Officers.

        Again, I ask the question: Were you aware of the fact that the health care bill created another army? We can easily imagine what they will be ordered to do, including lethal injections (a.k.a. vaccinations) to “unworthy” people?

        Whew, Nazi Germany all over again and it is happening right before our eyes, and right under our noses.

        FULL ANSWER

        This e-mail features a prominent reference to something we’ve dealt with before: A July 2, 2008, speech in Colorado Springs by then-presidential candidate Barack Obama. Obama talked there about building up “a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded” as our military force. But the doomsayers left out the context: Obama was proposing strengthening the Peace Corps, Americorps, the USA Freedom Corps and the ranks of the State Department’s foreign service officers.

        Despite our efforts, though, some people have been on the lookout for signs of Obama’s “national security force” ever since, and they think they have found it in section 5210 of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, the health care overhaul recently signed into law by the president. The blogosphere has been ablaze with postings, which, like the e-mail above, often contain references to Hitler, brownshirts, Nazism and the like.

        The truth about the new Ready Reserve Corps is a lot less interesting than the conspiracy theories. Before the law was passed, the Public Health Service, unlike other elements of the government’s seven uniformed services, didn’t have a “ready reserve” – a cadre of individuals who could be called up involuntarily in times of need. What it had was a regular, full-time corps of 2,800 doctors, nurses, scientists and other medical professionals, which was the limit under law. It also had a reserve corps. But most of the individuals in the reserve corps, which was larger than the regular corps, were on extended active duty for the duration of their careers; in other words, they worked full-time, just like the regular corps, because they were needed, but the statutory cap prevented the service from bringing them into the regular corps.

        The new law eliminates the personnel cap and brings the members of what used to be the reserve corps into the regular corps, which as a result now numbers about 6,600, according to an official at the Public Health Service who spoke to us on background.

        And the law creates the ready reserve of individuals who can be called up for service by the U.S. surgeon general in times of need; the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina is often used as an example of an incident that might trigger a call-up.

        Officials at the PHS are in the process of developing regulations that will determine how the Ready Reserve Corps is populated, but the person we spoke to said there will be limits on how long individuals could serve on active duty. Those who are activated will be paid for the duration of their service, and the bill provides $12.5 million per year through 2014 for the Ready Reserve.

        It’s unclear at this point how large the Ready Reserve will be, but a number in the neighborhood of several thousand has been mentioned. The PHS had been hoping to create the new team for several years, for reasons that may have been best described in a 2008 report, Blueprint for a Healthier America, published by a nonprofit group called the Trust for America’s Health to help guide the next administration and Congress:

        Blueprint for a Healthier America: There are not sufficient numbers of public health professionals to respond during major health emergencies, and when Corps members are called away to respond to emergencies, it means their ongoing functions are often neglected. If a “Ready Reserve” program was created, retired members of the Corps could become reservists who could be deployed on short notice during emergencies, or could fill in at federal agencies when active members are needed during emergencies, to ensure ongoing functions are carried out. Reservists would be required to participate in an appropriate number of drills and training throughout the year. Members of the reserve could also help fill in to provide services for underserved communities where health problems are the greatest.

        Jerry Farrell, executive director of the Commissioned Officers Association, told us that the Ready Reserve can help the PHS avoid situations such as what happened after Katrina, when so many members of the regular and reserve corps were dispatched to New Orleans and other areas hit by the 2005 hurricane that “the corps discovered, for instance, that they had deployed a whole surgical clinic of the Indian Health Service.”

        Needless to say (we hope), there is absolutely no support for this chain e-mail’s speculation that uniformed members of the Public Health Service would be ordered to give “lethal injections (a.k.a. vaccinations) to ‘unworthy people.’ ”

        –Viveca Novak
        Sources

        Hamburg, Richard. Deputy Director, Trust for America’s Health. Interview with FactCheck.org. 6 April 2010.

        Trust for America’s Health. “Blueprint for a Healthier America.” October 2008.

        Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. Pub. L. No. 111-148. Enacted 23 March 2010.

        Farrell, Jerry. Executive Director, Commissioned Officers Association. Interview with FactCheck.org. 6 April 2010.

        Posted by Viveca Novak on Wednesday, April 7, 2010 at 4:13 pm
        Filed under Ask FactCheck · Tagged with Army, Barack Obama, chain e-mail, health care, health care reform, ready reserve

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      • http://?? Joe H.

        smelly,
        just answer one glaring question. If Obummer doesn’t want a “civillian army”, then why did he say he did??? And don’t even try to tell me he didn’t as I heard it the night he said it and have heard it about 5 or 6 times since!!!

      • DaveH
      • Smilee

        You did not read my above post did you joey, had you read it you would have had your answer and the truth would have set you free

      • JeffH

        Smilee, you are a straight up idiot. I suppose that you are calling Judge Andrew Napolitano a liar.
        If you dare get your head out of your arse long enough to watch and listen you might just learn it’s not just fear mongering and paranoia.

        http://www.personalliberty.com/feature-video/obamas-private-army/

      • Smilee

        Go read my post jeffy and you would know the truth, facts joey not opinions and propaganda will inform you of the truth

      • DaveH

        Who cares what they call them? Of course they aren’t going to call them Hitler’s Brownshirts. The fact is that they will be paid by the government and answer to the government.
        Big Government is the Problem, Not the Solution.

        There are only two kinds of people who vote for Socialism, those who think they will get to feed at the trough, or those who are just hopelessly naive.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        smelly,
        when sombody knoledgable enough to know facts puts them up I do pay attention!!!!

      • Smilee

        Joey

        I have never seen you do anything but ignore the true facts, i gave you the true facts and you scream stupid statements in total frustrations because when presented with the truth you cannot respond to it in a rational manner as the truth exposes your immaturity

  • DougR

    If our politicians would enforce the laws and follow the laws, we would not be in this position. Do you realize how many politicians and or government employees fail to pay taxes, have been charged with fraud and/or criminal activity yet are not punished because they protect each other. I have been to the Dominican Republic, next to Haiti, talk about 3rd world living, the amount of money we are sending to Haiti should make every citizen a very rich person, however, the government will keep it as usual.

    • JC

      You’re right Doug. Foreign aid is generally money taken from poor people in rich countries and given to rich people in poor countries.

  • Rennie

    Novel idea, put the farmers in office, kick the bullshitters out!

    • momof4

      Rennie,
      I LOVE IT !!!!!!

  • Save America Susie

    This was a great article! That is what we should have more of. It’s like PURE GOLD suddenly discovered…STORIES of our EARLY HEROES and FOUNDING FATHERS. People have gotten away from the true origins of this country because they are not taught it in school anymore. Sad state of affairs! We need to get back what once was so common place: knowledge & wisdom. Thanks for running this article today, CHIP!
    Please include more!

  • Janvier Francis

    Dear Steve Proctor ! Nobody ask you to send a dime to Haiti, You’re grown,you can do whatever you want but remember Savannah Ga where the slave gave their blood to give you freedom in this country also after getting themselves independance from France in 1803 that France undr Napoleon would come to invade America without this fight in Hayti they wouldn’t be no USA (America)today we should be under France rules you may have your own reason to say that,so now people can see why Hayti is paying for the price of its independance, go to Library make research to clean up your mind, Hayti shouldn’t like that it was protecting you and your ancestor from France protectorate also Thanks Hayti for this freedom in America.

    • Robert Wayne

      I’ve seen some idiotic left wing posts on here, but as usual yours is more lies. What do a motley crew of uncivilized Africans rising up against a few French who were in Haiti over 200 years ago have to do with the independence of this country. Haiti is just another group of third world Africans who are too lazy to work for themselves and have grown accustomed to handouts from American taxpayers. If American politicians had any gonads at all they’d tell these foreigners from Haiti and every other country digging in our pockets where to go.

    • Gorba

      Really, and look how well the Haitians have done for themselves since they opted for self rule. The USA and it’s people have given more to Haiti after the earthquake than all other countries combined. Nice job.

    • Yankee Will

      Uuuuhhhhh…yeah…

    • JC

      Another twisted moonbat.

    • Meteorlady

      The US and other countries have pumped billions into Haiti. It has not worked because there no accountability on how projects on a national level are working out. The state is unconcerned about their problems and often do not even address them. There is no accountability as to what happens with the money even among international aide groups. The cost of living in Haiti is very high. And there is political corruption so our aid money that goes directly to the government never really sees any return.

      We would be better off funding responsible people to help get Haiti going, but to keep doing the same things over and over is not working.

  • Enlightened one

    Tea Bagger and Massey Mine co. CEO Blankenship.. Quote… Safety regulations are ” nonsense”….. Over 2000 safety violations since the 1st of the year…

    • Earlw

      What does this have to do with this thread?????

      • libertytrain

        nothing that I can tell.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        liberty,
        now you can see the results of having half of your brain tied behind your back, as he said on the other thread, when you only have half a brain!!!!

      • JeffH

        “Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.”

        Changeing the subject changes the discussion.

      • eyeswideopen

        Earlw, come on you didn’t slam these people: Richard Henderson, Mike Gardner, Earlw,(you!!!) Claire, Libertytrain, Jim H, eyeswideopen, American Liberal, Gorba, Dave H. all of them including you made statements that did not have anything to do with the thread. Do you not hear yourself when the hypocrisy starts coming from your mouth? What is it with you people? Are you that desperate to attack someone, that it doesn’t even register that you just committed the same exact foul you are accusing them of?????????? Unbelievable.

      • DaveH

        Speaking of someone desperate to attack. Your poor Husband. Or Wife.

      • Meteorlady

        Eyes – are you posting under two monikers then answering yourself?

      • libertytrain

        well now there are at least 6 replies to a non-thread issue – who cares? This is a place to communicate – so communicate and enjoy yourselves – all enjoyable conversations takes twists and turns – it’s the side trips along the journey that make our lives a little more interesting.

      • Claire

        libertytrain– I agree with you again. I know I get off course.

    • Robert Wayne

      Typical left wing lies and nonsense. Just like their accusing the tea partiers of ‘rayyyyyyyyyyyycism’ against the scumbag traitors on the side of Odumbo’s illegal healthcare scam.

      • Jana

        Robert W,
        We have been warned that the leftist and the SEIU (I think that is right) Union is going to crash the Tea Party and I am sure they are planning on bringing their bad manners, dirty mouths and vulgarity with them. These people are thugs and can be violent so beware. What they want to do is discredit the decent people that are out there with legitimate concerns. Reminds me of exactly what Satan does. Tries to put evil where there is good and corrupts it. Knowledge is power.

    • DaveH

      EO is just upset because his ignorant fellow Liberals kept working at the unsafe mine even though they knew it was unsafe.

    • JC

      And a new moon was discovered just between your ears! ;)

    • Meteorlady

      In a mostly democratic state the people that enforce the law don’t so Massey gets what he wants because he provides “jobs” and the state doesn’t want to loose that.

      • Jana

        Meteorlady, I think the state of Obama wants all jobs lost. That is his goal. He wants us all dependent on the Government.

      • JC

        Or Dead.

    • momof4

      E.O.
      What the hell are you talking about????

    • Meteorlady

      You point is????????

  • Tomass

    If they have a law degree, vote them out!

    • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

      Mine ya, I’m not for lawlessness, but I agree with you “If they have a law degree, vote them out”!

    • JC

      Good idea, it’s only 98% of lawyers who are making the rest look bad, but it is “Lawyers” and their “interpretations” of the Constitution that have made for a convluted and controlling law system that has little to do with justice. Vote em out!

    • APW

      That is quite possibly the best suggestion I’ve heard yet! In addition to the gentleman who suggested limiting the length of bills to just a couple of pages – not 2000+!

  • American Liberal

    Great news on the economy…. Retail sales the best in a decade for March…… I’m sure all Americans are pleased with this great news….if president Obama can bring back this economy after the Republicans destroyed it he will go down as a truely great president…

    • Earlw

      There is simply no accounting for deluded and blind, historically unsophisticated individuals like yourself. Keep kidding yourself that Obama is the great saviour……….As long as the federal reserve keeps providing fiat paper money to the country, the economy will run, but the more you print, the less its worth, eventually terminating at zero, then the economy you so loudly and repeatedly boast of, will collapse. This man is working to destroy the middle class(that’s you) as fast as he can…Good luck with your idea…

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Earlw,
        don’t worry, they are an endangered species as they are going to drown in the water they think he can walk on!!!!

    • Robert Wayne

      The economy was in fine shape until the Democraps took over the Senate in 2006. Since then, it’s all been downhill. You libtards are so hardheaded you’ll be eating grass and if you can afford a loaf of bread it’ll cost $100 in the near future and instead of seeing Obama and his lackeys for the communist thieves that they are, you’ll still be blaming Bush.

    • Gorba

      Stop drinking the coolaid. Obama has done nothing correctly. Get real

    • DaveH

      Keep Hoping and Dreaming, AL. In the meantime, I suggest you start protecting your cash money from the inevitable loss of purchasing power.

    • Pep

      Oh me, another disillusioned youngster.

    • Meteorlady

      Let me know how the VAT tax works out for you – oh and Cap & Trade works for your energy needs and all the increase in prices that come with it. Let me know how 20-30 million illegals being made legal works for you when Americans are looking for jobs and can’t find them – while the illegals/now legal are heading for the welfare offices.

      You are so deluded it’s funny. Read some more on the retail sales and the unemployment rate. That rate is higher than the government says because people have exhausted their unemployment and are sitting around waiting for jobs to “happen”. Where I live grown children are coming back home to live with their parents in order to make ends meet. They are taking jobs that illegals would be working. A friend int he survey business says 5 survey firms have gone under because there is no building or development going on, So tell me again how well we are doing?

      The federal reserve is printing money at an alarming rate and that will lead to hyperinflation – and your dollar will be worth about 1/2 or 1/3 of what it is now. Record spending is not going to put this country back together again. Obama has not a clue about the economy – he has surrounded himself with tax cheats, Wall Street insiders, and liberal people that have no understanding of this country.

      • Jana

        One of the issues in Cap and Trade if passed will come back to haunt us all. This is the registering of our homes. We must have all “approved” appliances, commodes, water heaters, air conditioners – heating and cooling, and electrical etc. etc.

  • DaveH

    Our out-of-control Government in action:
    http://gunowners.org/toy-gun-control.htm

  • EltonJ

    Lawyers did suffer a witch hunt in Virginia at one time.

    • Bryll

      I teach students in the third grade. Last year I taught my students the U.S. Constitution. In May of ’09, when we had finished with the Bill of Rights, I said to them, “You now understand the basic law of this country better than most grown-ups. You remember all of the new politicians who took office in January, and how they promised to protect and uphold the Constitution. If your parents will let you, watch the news, or read the news and judge for yourselves how well they are keeping their promises.” The last day of school I got called into the principal’s office and told that 5 of my students’ parents had complained that I had said that “Obama was a evil man.” I had never referenced his name. Once the students knew the law, they could form their own opinion. It is true that what is called “education” needs to be thrown out. Most teachers have not got a clue concerning the facts.

      • Jana

        Bryll,
        Good for you. We need more teachers out there daring to teach our Consitution. Knowledge and Truth are powerful.

        I wish more of our representatives felt like Davy Crockett, wanting to actually uphold the Constitution.

        Our Founding Fathers sacrificed a great deal to write and sign this Precious Document. So did their families. It wasn’t easy to take the stand that they took. Now its time for us to take a stand, because if we don’t we will not have anything left to stand for. We will be under dictatorship.

      • Meteorlady

        Good for you – my 17 year nephew was never taught anything about the Constitution, Federalist Papers, Bill of Rights or about the founding of this country. He just thinks it all just happened but not sure how. Sad………

      • APW

        Great job, Bryll!! I was one of the fortunate students that had a teacher like you, who taught us the Constitution and encouraged us to think for ourselves. Many, many more teachers like you are needed, in ALL grades! I was also fortunate enough to have a history professor in college that did the same – he has just published a book called “The Politically Incorrect Guide to the Founding Fathers”. His name is Dr. Brion McClanahan, currently from Phenix City, AL.

      • JC

        AWESOME!
        I’m not a teacher but I spend plenty of time teaching my kids and their friend what the country is “supposed” to be. They see things a little differently now than they were taught in school….

      • momof4

        Bryll,
        Good for you. You are very brave. If my kids had teachers like you I would not have had to pull them out of public school. May God bless you richly for your good work

      • Claire

        Bryll — My kids went to Lutheran schools because we did not have teachers like you in public schools. You are to be commended.

  • Rhonda Brooks

    There is a reason why the Founders and the best Presidents and Congressmen in the beginning were all laborers, farmers, business owners. Now, compare to today’s Presidents, congressmen. No experience in operating a business, plowing a field and growing things, nor laboring long enough to produce one drop of sweat and we wonder why today, they lack any clue as to how to run a whole country. Folks, we need people that have actually held jobs that required the qualifications of hard work, hard decisions, communication and sweat and understand the plight of the real workers of this country. Only qualifications we have now; they’re lawyers! ‘Nuff said.

    • http://?? Joe H.

      Rhonda,
      There are exceptions to every rule. look at Carter, the last farmer we had!!! He was a peanut farmer and had them for brains!!!

  • Rhonda Brooks

    It is well known that the individual citizen is more informed and is better equipped with the intelligence to comprehend and inform our own congress about the Constitution and the policies they push better than congress themselves.

    We all saw how factual and informed citizens were at the townhalls over the healthcare reform bill; whereas, the politicians of today had to admit they were commenting on something they had not even read which shows total ignorance beyond belief.

  • http://NONE REASON-1

    This is already in the main body of the constitution. Article I Sec.8 All
    laws must be [ UNIFORM ] throughout the United States. That means that
    they must apply equally to ALL citizens even congress. That makes their
    retirement and medical plans [ UNCONSTITUTIONAL ].

    Since the first congress removed the original 1st amendment stipulating
    the determination of their salaries and assumed the power to determine
    their own salaries, each congress in sucession assumed the same power and
    eventually assumed the power to determine their retirement and medical
    plans. The Founding Fathers and writers of the Constitution never intended
    that congress should be a lifetime profession and certainly never intended
    that it be comprised of lawyers which constitutes a conflict of interests.
    This is why it is riddled with [ CORRUPTION ] as is every legal authority
    throughout these United States.Now you know why Crockett told them to ” Go to hell”! According to the Bible that is where they will end up eventually regardless of how much money they steal from the people.

    They forgot that money [ BURNS ].

    • Smilee

      REASON-1 says: April 9, 2010 at 7:41 am

      ;but all duties, imposts, and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States:

      these must be uniform nothing else has to be, your mumbo jumbo shows your lack of understanding of this issue and the rest of your posts being so jumbled up cannot be intelligently responded to so have to leave it here

    • Meteorlady

      Please read my post above about their salaries, retirement and health care benefits.

      • Smilee

        What’s your point??????????

      • Jana

        Never mind Meteorlady, Smilee is incapable of any type of English comprehension. He has his ears closed and he is blind to any type of truth. Probably an inherited gene.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Jana,
        careful mentioning genes around smelly, he will tell you his are Lee Riders!!!

      • Smilee

        Neither of you can, or will if you can, enter into any discourse on the actual issues. personal attacks are your only responses, don’t you realize it reveals your character or lack of character. It could also be act of frustration because deep down you realize I am right and you can’t deal with that. It would be nice if you could post in an adult manner.

  • http://www.WessAdams.com Wess

    Great article Chip, Thanks for posting. I agree with the Truth that Crockett learned and accepted from the plain farmer Mr.Bunce. Oh that we had more like him today, we need to glean his wisdom of action and boldness as well. My favorite quote from Crockett was from the link you provided, “I will tell you, sir, if everyone who professes to be a Christian lived and acted and enjoyed it as he does, the religion of Christ would take the world by storm.” Amen!

    Wess

    • JLC

      Wess, there are people like that “Out There” — a good many of them! The problem is that too many of our young people, and more than just a few of our older ones, have been so thoroughly indoctrinated (as opposed to educated) that they just aren’t listening. Perhaps a thorough house-cleaning in our educational system would help!

      • Char

        amen to that: We will need to teach them to read and understand what they are reading. Has anyone out there seen the last examples of how our kids are doing in the reading department. Not good!!

  • Mike Gardner

    You can keep all the bums you mentioned except one. I wqould keep Newt Gingricht. I think overall he has worked to do the right thing. Now goofball Graham? You can þake him, please. He has done nothing but go against my wishes. He is way off on immigration and practically every other issue.

    • Earlw

      Newt Gingrich is just another neo-con, and has the morals of a toad. Who in their right mind would divorce his wife while she was hospitalized? Remember the “contract with(on) America? No thanks, more of the same

      • Claire

        Newt isn’t the only one that stabbed his wife in the back. Edwards, Ensign, Sanford, Clinton, and possibly others that haven’t come to “light” yet. And I heard Limbaugh has been married 3 times. What about Hannity and a girl he was supposedly involved with that ended up being killed? I wish to add Hannity was not involved with her her murder. I read this on the Internet. What about Barney Frank? There are few politicians that do NOT have skeletons in their closet.

      • Meteorlady

        Add all the Kennedy boys and some members of the immediate family of elitists.

      • Claire

        Meteorlady— Egad I can’t believe I forgot the Kennedys. They couldn’t keep their pants on either. I cannot understand why their wives stayed with them. Money? Yuk. No amount of money would keep me anywhere near them. And Jackie marrying that old Onassis. Double Yuk. But gosh I sure thought Jack and Jackie’s son John was gorgeous. He was a hunk!!! LOL

      • libertytrain

        John Edwards ring a bell – wholesome, “fine”, Democrat man, sleeping with a gal and getting her pregnant – trying to get an associate to take the fall for it and all of it while John’s wife suffers/suffered through cancer – I’m with Claire – a whole lot of losers in politics. Can’t seem to keep their brains above their pant’s level.

      • Jim H.

        Libertytrain, I believe the reason Denny Hastert got to be speaker of the House, was because he didn’t run around on his wife.

      • eyeswideopen

        Jim, he might have got elected because he didn’t mess around on his wife, but if you look at these two links, you can see that one of the big things the conservatives/repubs were upset about, the closed door meetings, were also done by Hasert. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A15423-2004Nov26.html

        He also had a flair for spending over a million dollars on his office and employees in 2008. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-use-this-hastert-0218-20100217,0,640306.story?egovernemetn
        Sad, that the speaker of the “fiscally responsible party” in a time of economic crisis didn’t think that a million dollars was a lot of money.

      • Jana

        Eyes, I couldn’t agree with you more. No matter what party it is, there are some bad people in them. That is why the Tea Party has become so popular. They are not about a particular party, but voter responsibility to put in office someone of any party, that will be responsive to the people, and back to the basics of the Constitution. Whether they be Democrats or Republicans, it does not matter. Both parties are good, but they have both been corrupted. Now its time to CLEAN OUR HOUSE.

      • Claire

        Gosh, I read my post this morning about the hair issue concerning Edwards and Blago. LOL But I remember Edwards paying $400 for a haircut when he was campaigning. I knew right then and there he was a shallow person. And Blago always commented about his hair and I think he thought he looked like Elvis. Crazy.

      • Jim H.

        Eyes, The topic was fidelity, that’s all. Unless you have proof that he did run around on his wife it’s irrelevent. How much does Peosi spend on her office, staff, and parties. The first thing she did when she got the position was get a bigger, more expensive plane to take her from Washington to San Fransisco and back at the taxpayer expense.

      • Jim H.

        Eyes, But since Pelosi doesn’t claim to be from the party of fiscal responsibility it’s OK.

      • Claire

        libertytrain– Some of these guys can’t keep their pants zipped. I look at them and think what the heck did the “other woman” see in them? Edwards and Clinton were “pretty boys” that were so egotistical they thought no woman would ever turn them down. The others, well if a person goes by looks, they left a lot to be desired. I cannot respect people that pull these stunts. To treat their families and wife like they were nothings, just for a roll in the hay. I betcha my husband is glad he never stepped out on me!!!

      • Palin12

        John Edwards even told that Hunter gal he would marry her after his wife dies.

      • Claire

        John Edwards is a nothing. I never cared for him. To me he was just a “pretty boy” in love with his hair. During the campaign he never came across as being a sincere person. Now I know why. He is no better than Blago, they both think they have nice hair. And they are on the same level—the lowest of lowlife. Slimy characters.

      • libertytrain

        Claire – yes an impressive bunch of low-life’s – unfortunately living the high-life – frequently on our dime.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Claire,
        My wife just about choked on her coffee when I told her that you called Clintoon a “pretty boy”!! she calls him a fat, no class, redneck!!!

      • Claire

        Joe H– LOL At the time Clinton pulled his stunt he was younger and (a big and) a person could tell he was in love with himself. He was conceited back then and maybe yet today. I bet he is disappointed that he couldn’t stay young forever. Be sure to tell your wife that I used the term “pretty boy” because HE THOUGHT he was a pretty boy.

      • momof4

        The Most Promising Method of Securing a Virtuous and Morally Stable People is to Elect Virtuouse Leaders 3rd Principle in The 5000 Year Leap. If you have not read it, please do!!! We have not had a virtuous
        leader in a very long time it seems to me there is always something in their closet no matter how good they seem to be. I know nobody’s perfect, but come on!

  • Richard Henderson

    I have a hard time dealling with any one who pays attention to television, and or movies, never have catered to either one, just the radio for me, but even that now is gone, country and western music are gone, they are all now that rock and roll stuff that they brought out in the late 50′s. there just ain’t nothing worth paying attention to anymore, everything is corrupted, polluted or just not right. I like my childhood, of making our own music, and musical instruments. singing to ourselves and or half the country side as we rode the mule home from school. maw and paw were both born in 1904, and I was the first born of three, so I had the responsibility of, well just about everything.

    • Smilee

      Richard Henderson says:
      April 9, 2010 at 7:07 am

      Section 8 of Article I, does not use the word promote it uses the word provide for and equates the general welfare to the common defense so the force of law is to be applied equally to both issues, it is a wide definition not a narrow one and gives to congress the power to provide for both within this context. Many here try to narrow that definition usually to include what they wish it to be and not what it is, We all, I think believe it places few limits on common defense and if we believe that then it has to be equally applied to the general welfare. It does not mandate congress to do so but places few restraints on it either.

      • Smilee

        OOPS!! this was suppose to address Earl and not Richard sorry

        Earlw says:
        April 9, 2010 at 11:19 amS

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Smelly,
        your own smell must be getting to your faint senses!! Richard H. at 7:07 AM said nothing what so ever to do with your post!!!!

      • Smilee

        Can’t you read, i corrected it, now the jokes on you

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Smelly,
        the only joke I see is you!!!

    • Smilee

      Smilee says:
      April 9, 2010 at 10:59 pm
      EARL

      Section 8 of Article I, does not use the word promote it uses the word provide for and equates the general welfare to the common defense so the force of law is to be applied equally to both issues, it is a wide definition not a narrow one and gives to congress the power to provide for both within this context. Many here try to narrow that definition usually to include what they wish it to be and not what it is, We all, I think believe it places few limits on common defense and if we believe that then it has to be equally applied to the general welfare. It does not mandate congress to do so but places few restraints on it either.

  • James

    The issue in question depends on how you interpret the following clause in the Constitution: Section 8 – Powers of Congress: The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States.

    I believe you will find that there are many things the government does that could be considered as falling under “…general Welfare….”

    I am not implying that it does justify all that is done, but it is a very important part of the issue at hand.

    • Richard

      “general welfare” at the time of the constitution’s writing meant that it must benefit to WHOLE country….it was never to steal money from one group in order to benefit another. In other words if every single citizens did not recieve the SAME benefits from the action it was not to be done. Why else do you suppose Jefferson said, “The two enemies of the people are criminals and government. Let us tie down the second with the chains of the Constitution so that the later does not become the legalized version of the first.” Our congress and president’s for the past hundred plus years have allowed just what Jefferson warned of. Now our government IS legalized criminal activity. Liberals watched Robin Hood movies a few too many times and didn’t catch that the story was make believe.

      • Janet

        Apparently the liberals also didn’t pick up on Robin Hood taking from the “government” (not the rich) and returning it to the people who were over taxed.

    • DaveH

      James,
      If the General Welfare clause is interpreted as a power of the Federal Government, then there are no limits to Federal Government and the Constitution is a wasted document.
      I think our Founders meant well, but they definitely needed to be more rigorous in their writing of the Constitution.
      However, the english language being what it is, an imprecise language, the Constitution would unfortunately be subject to interpretation no matter how rigorously it was written.

      • DaveH

        Also, the “General Welfare” power is taken out of context by Liberals who just want to do as they please.

        Here is the entire sentence from Article I, Section 8:
        “The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States”.

        The words “general Welfare” are qualifying the “Power to lay and collect Taxes”, not giving the Federal Government an unlimited power.

      • DaveH

        Further treatment of the Constitution’s “general welfare” misinterpretation can be found in the The Federalist #41 by James Madison:
        http://www.constitution.org/fed/federa41.htm

        After opening the page you can do a find on “general welfare” to take you to the pertinent paragraphs (unless you just want to read the whole thing).

      • JC

        Which is exactly why the Southern Confederacy removed the General Welfare Clause for their Constitution. To prevent the abuse of power.

      • Smilee

        IT LOST ITS FORCE OF LAW IN 1865

      • DaveH

        Wow!
        Really, Sleepee?

      • JC

        What’s your point smilee? The general welfare clause lost it’s force of laW IN 1865? I don’t think so.
        That the southern confedearcy lost its force of law in 1865? Well DUH!
        & You miss the point completely.

      • Smilee

        JC
        It is still in our constitution the confederate constitution did not have it and it was scraped when the war ended and it was that Constitution we were talking about, it would help if you read more carefully then you would be less likely to mix things up

    • Phgreek

      hmmm…let me start by saying the interpretation of “Section 8″ could be wide open…however one cannot deny the palpable change in its interpretation since the progressive movement of last century. In other words until that point, no politician would have dreamed of interpreting it in the fashion it is applied today. Let us also put progressiveism in no uncertain terms…it is shifting the balance of the focus from nation’s well being to individual well being….with the gross misrepresentation that a Nation is better if all its people are well…patently false!

      Now, the answer is quite simple for me…as we move further in time from the spirit and intent that forged this great nation, oportunisitc politicians continue to smear the meaning and intent of section 8 for their own purposes…and the health of this nation they swore to protect is traded away every election. This view simply cannot be argued…had section 8 been intended to be the personal welfare clause, it would have been interpreted this way much earlier in the development of this nation.

    • Earlw

      I seem to recall the phrase was to [promote] the general welfare. This means to do it’s best to make sure the general population is well served and functioning smoothly. “Welfare, as we know it today, didn’t even exist at that time in history. It meant well-being…….

      • Smilee

        Smilee says:
        April 9, 2010 at 11:44 pm

        Smilee says:
        April 9, 2010 at 10:59 pm
        EARL

        Section 8 of Article I, does not use the word promote it uses the word provide for and equates the general welfare to the common defense so the force of law is to be applied equally to both issues, it is a wide definition not a narrow one and gives to congress the power to provide for both within this context. Many here try to narrow that definition usually to include what they wish it to be and not what it is, We all, I think believe it places few limits on common defense and if we believe that then it has to be equally applied to the general welfare. It does not mandate congress to do so but places few restraints on it either.
        Reply

      • George E

        Interesting argument. However, I’m inclined to believe that even for those who believe our Constitution should be a “living breathing document” to reflect current day opinions, citizens would constrain government’s spending and power if citizens were really aware of the cost that each of us is obligated to by our government. This would certainly be accomplished if all taxes were consolidated into one payment for each person/family each year. In other words, citizens will effectively balance terms like “general welfare” against the cost to be paid, when really presented with the facts. Unfortunately, we are taxed in so many incremental ways, and told that we will not be taxed for new programs, that people really haven’t fully grasped the concept yet of what all our government is costing us. It’s been like living off a low interest credit card. Monthly payments don’t change all that much, month-to-month, but the debt is rising very fast, and will come due. When we finally do come to this reality, citizens will get control of the government once and for all, and will determine that “general welfare” must be defined in very narrow terms.

      • Smilee

        George E says:
        April 10, 2010 at 7:28 am

        “general welfare” can only defined in narrower terms by amending the constitution not by law, until then Congress has the power to enact laws in wide terms. You raise some good points and some I agree would be beneficial and many could done by congress now if it had the political will to. The last 30 years there has been little of that and none for the last 10 years.

      • Meteorlady

        The I believe that all anti-poverty programs should be abolished because they are not for the general welfare of the population of the United States. They only benefit certain people leaving the rest of the general population out, hurting the economy by taking money out of the hands of people that would spend and keep the economy going, It takes money out of the hands of people that would work for charities and give freely to people that need help.

      • Smilee

        Meteorlady says:
        April 10, 2010 at 7:56 am

        What in your opinion does “provide for the general welfare” in the constitution mean, you tell us what in your opinion you think it is not but you have not told us what you think it is. My opinion is you do not understand what it is but if you told us we could better understand you. My guess you do not know so you will not be able to tell us.

      • Meteorlady

        I was talking about anti-poverty government give-away programs, not the “general welfare” clause.

        But if I must, “general welfare” mean to me that the government should protect my family and my property by providing me with a viable judicial system and an army to protect our borders and the lives and property of every American citizen. It means that congress should serve us by enacting laws that preserve the general welfare of ALL citizens of this country. It certainly does not mean that the government has the right to take my money by force and coercion and give it to someone else who didn’t work for it.

      • Jana

        Meteorlady,
        I agree.
        Article 1 Section 8 actually says,
        “The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, ‘Imposts and Excises’ to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States: but all Duties, ‘Imposts and Excises’ shall be uniform throughout the United States.”

        Sounds to me like the GENERAL WELFARE here means free from fear of attack from other countries, other ideologies coming in to take us over, as well as having law and order in our land. Not welfare money, and especially not redistribution of the wealth of this country.

      • Smilee

        Jana

        It says “of the united states” not other countries and the war on terrorism we are now fighting is not against any country, are you saying that does not apply to the common defense, why would you think common defense and general welfare mean the same thing. The fact that they are divided by the word “and” clearly says they have different meanings. You talk in circles and clearly have no understanding of the constitution.

      • Jana

        Smilee, excuse me? Talk about not making sense and talking in circles, thats all you ever do.
        The AND can also mean continuing in the same thought.
        You asked Meteorlady what she thought it meant so why don’t you Mr. Brilliant tell us what you think it means.
        However, remember when this was written, there were no hidden meanings. These men were being open and forthright in what they wanted. I do believe that if these very men were here right now you would find so much fault with them that you would truly look silly.
        They would be way too conservative for you. It actually sounds like you have no understanding of the Constitution, or of common sense either for that matter.

      • Jana

        Smilee,
        You still didn’t say what you think it is so obviously you can’t. Just what I thought. By the way, when we talk about apples and oranges, we are still talking about fruit.
        Smilee, you are just an antagonizer. That is all you are good for.

      • Smilee

        jANA

        IF YOU HAD READ MY POST ABOVE TO Earlw: April 9, 2010 at 11:19 am, YOU WOULD HAVE KNOWN I ALREADY HAVE EXPLAINED MY POSITION YOU HAVE NOT AS YET, ALL YOU TO IT BITCH AND BITCH AND PUT PEOPLE DOWN, I AM STARTING TO BELIEVE YOU ARE INCAPABLE OF INTELLIGENT DISCOURSE AS YOU HAVE PASSED UP EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO OR MAYBE THIS WHOLE THING IS JUST TO DEEP FOR YOU AND BEYOND YOUR ABILITY TO COMPREHEND IT.

      • Jana

        Wow, Smilee isn’t smilee any more, he is a frownee. Must have had too much to drink tonight to respond like you did. I sure hope you don’t talk to your family like that, but you probably do. Your poor family.

        I am quoting one of your own responses, and it fits perfectly here,

        ” personal attacks are your only responses, don’t you realize it reveals your character or lack of character. It could also be act of frustration because deep down you realize I am right and you can’t deal with that. It would be nice if you could post in an adult manner.”

        Obviously you cannot conduct yourself in an adult manner when you have either had too much to drink or lose your temeper.

        I admit I am a wimp, but now we all know you are one too.

      • Smilee

        Jana

        I read your posts you did not read mine I responded to yours you ignored mine again responded with the same as before and you still have not responded to my point you just continued on with your bitching. I stand a 100% I do not think you know the truth so you just strike out widely in frustration

      • Jana

        Smilee, At least it doesn’t sound like you have been drinking, but I did answer you. You haven’t bothered to read with any comprehension.
        But, I would ask that you not use vulgarity when addressing me, as I have not used those words on you.
        You truly have some good points at times and I see some validity to what you say

      • Jana

        Sorry, it did not let me finish as it just submitted.

        I still think common defense and general welfare mean common and general, not specific welfare, not programs for the poor. It means defense of all, and welfare of all, as in doing no harm to the people and letting no other country take us over. Ergo, a military. The government is not supposed to be our parents.
        To me it is quite simple.

      • Smilee

        Smilee says:
        April 11, 2010 at 11:32 pm

        Jana says:
        April 11, 2010 at 7:11 pm

        Sorry, it did not let me finish as it just submitted.

        I still think common defense and general welfare mean common and general, not specific welfare, not programs for the poor. It means defense of all, and welfare of all, as in doing no harm to the people and letting no other country take us over. Ergo, a military. The government is not supposed to be our parents.
        To me it is quite simple.

        THANKS FOR GIVING YOUR OPINION AND ANSWERING MY QUESTION, I DO APPRECIATE THAT. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING AND MAY NOT EVEN DISAGREE WITH SOME OF YOUR FEELINGS BUT I STILL DISAGREE WITH YOUR INTERPRETATIONS, YOUR RIGHT IT IS NOT SPECIFIC WELFARE IT IS GENERAL WELFARE, GENERAL BEING A WIDE DEFINITION AND NOT A SPECIFIC ONE, SPECIFIC BEING A NARROWER DEFINITION REQUIRING MORE DEFINITION TO HAVE MORE MEANING. THE WIDER DEFINITION ENCOMPASSES MUCH MORE THAN THE FOUNDING FATHERS GAVE US GUIDANCE IN, THEY WERE NOT SPECIFIC. THEY GAVE THAT POWER SPECIFICALLY TO CONGRESS AND THEREIN I DISAGREE WITH YOU, IF CONGRESS DECIDES THAT IT IS WELFARE FOR THE POOR, OR HEALTH ETC. THEY FIT WITHIN A WIDE DEFINITION AND THEREFORE LEGAL, ITS NOT WEATHER YOU OR I LIKE IT, I BELIEVE THAT IS WHAT IT MEANS. COMMON DEFENSE I BELIEVE COVERS ALL NECESSARY DEFENSE AND IT TOO IS NOT NARROWLY DEFINED EITHER AND THUS LEAVES IT TO CONGRESS TO PROVIDE IT AS THEY DETERMINE NECESSARY, AS ALSO THE CASE WITH THE GENERAL WELFARE. IF THE FOUNDING FATHERS DECIDED NOT TO DEFINE IT MORE SPECIFICALLY OR A GIVE IT A NARROWER DEFINITION THEY THEN CHOSE TO LEAVE THE NARROWER DEFINITION TO CONGRESS. I ALSO BELIEVE THEY DID NOT MEAN DEFENSE AND WELFARE AS PERTAINING TO THE SAME ISSUES AS THEY DEFINITELY HAVE VERY DIFFERENT MEANINGS BOTH GENERALLY AND SPECIFICALLY AND THEREFORE CANNOT BE CONSTRUED TO MEAN THAT. THESE ARE MY VIEWS. I APPRECIATE YOUR RESPECT OF THEM, AGAIN THANKS FOR GIVING YOUR BELIEFS, FEELINGS AND THINKING ON THE ISSUES.

      • Smilee

        Sorry it posted twice I’m not sure why or how it happened

  • Damned Yankee

    Let’s start at the big tax payer money give aways, and work our way down to the small ones.

  • http://Yahoo Dennis Phillips

    Chip, I must thank you from the bottom of my heart for this. I have thought seriously about running for city councel. I joke about it by saying, wouldn’t it be funny to see a councel of rednecks running Danville, Va., but the more I think about it the more I am apt to do just that thing.
    I am fed up with what they are doing. They tax the crap out of us and plant trees in the midium strips between the four lane highways they always have men leaning on shovels beside with some machine digging up a road that I just came down the day before and not a thing was wrong with it then.
    To make it short, this site just made my mind up. Especially the part about the BBQ. I have thought myself about haveing a pig picking to get people to listen to what I have to say. I have a 20 acre field back here that would go great for a pig picking one night and a fish fry the next. Plenty of room for campers and tents and plenty of gituar and fiddle playing.

    I just wanted to thank you for the post. It was a great one. You have a great day. You just made my day for me.
    Dennis Phillips

    • Robert Wayne

      You’d have my vote Dennis. As far as I’m concerned we need more ‘rednecks’ in govt. and we need to get rid of all of the politically correct goons who don’t give a damn about the ordinary taxpaying American except to see how much money they can steal from us through illegal taxation for all of their insane social schemes. And if you are white, Christian, heterosexual or even just conservative, you can bet that you’ll be getting the raw end of the deal with these social justice schemes. Your wallet will be getting thinner while muslims, atheists, homosexuals and so called ‘minorities’ will either be paying less or no taxes or getting a govt. check every month…..at our expense.

    • Yankee Will

      Good luck Dennis! Ya got my vote!

    • Meteorlady

      If I lived there I’d vote for you. You go man!

  • George E

    Wonderful story. Thanks for sharing.

  • s c

    I’d like to know what happened to the FARMER. That man knew more than enough to represent the PEOPLE and do it RIGHT. When you get put in your place by someone who does not chase polls, works the ground with his hands yet makes time to WATCH those who are in Washington, THAT’S the kind of LEADER I want in Washington.
    You can take career politicians, poll watchers, “elite” retards, over-educated buffoons, social justice anarchists, liberation theology atheists, union suck-ups, ACORN-like brownshirts, RINOs and every other type of pretender and shove them all down the nearest toilet.
    America needs LEADERS. Specters, Pelosis, Bidens, Obummers, Grahams, Gingriches and McCains need not apply. Period!

    • Phyllis

      Well said sc. Something has got to change with this “system”. People can not go on with things so out of control.

    • Frank

      There are people like the Farmer running for office. Its our Job as Americans ti Find them and help them financially (provided we like what they say).

      • TIME

        Frank,
        Your words have the tone of truth in them, its up to us all to tell our elected persons be they to congress or the senate “what they will do for us.”
        > Not what they will do for us and or themselfs.< No more of this will we stand for. Rhetoric is for growing plants, not a country.

        As your states candidate come forth for congress and the senate we all need to help each other to weed out the "POSERS," and get the real hard core Americans that have {no agendas} other than serving the people of the United States. We as Americans don't care how its done in DC, we don't need any more DC pretzel logic.
        Round pegs don't fit in square holes and we all know that.

        And People we can't stop at 2010 November, this has to keep going until we have every law thats been placed on the books since 1913 tossed out for good, not just repealed these laws will need to be removed as if they never happened.

        This is going to be a long trip and there is going to be very hard work to be done, all of our hands will get dirty from cleaning up this mess thats gone on for the last 100 years.

        As I have said before and I will say it again, {many of us will loose everything we have and have worked for.}
        Thats what it will take to fix this mess. Its not going to be easy nor clean cut.

        We can not afford to make any mistakes from now on, we can not let down our guard – for even a nano second.

        And when the mess is cleaned up we can never allow any of these tricks of the "PROGRESSIVES" to happen again ever.

      • Yankee Will

        Kind of like cleaning out the chicken house, eh Time? You can spread fresh straw over the old, but in a short time, it will stink just as bad as before. You have to clean it out every so often all the way down to the floor boards! And you can’t just do it once! You must do it every so often to keep the birds healthy and get rid of the stench!
        Hope all is well with you, friend.

      • Rowdy

        Well Said: I can’t believe someone else has exactly the same sentiments. Main problem beyond these points is how to do it. We have to enact legislation allowing the citizens to form an oversight committee that has power to administer lie detector tests to any and all politicians past, present, and future to determine if they are acting or have acted in a manner befitting the betterment of the United States of America by upholding the Constitution, and the rights of American citizens. If they have not or are not, they should be removed from office and/or if retired still be subjected to an investigation to determine the degree of their transgressions. After this determination they should be punished for their crimes against their country by stripping them of any retirement benefits, health care benefits, monetary gains as a result of their term of office, banned from holding office ever again and deported from our country. All in proportion to the degree of their guilt. All politicians from that day forward would be subject to that test and again at any time randomly to ensure their dedication to performing their assigned jobs in a diligent manner for their country not for themselves. We would very soon have a much lighter tax burden and a much improved government operation.

      • JC

        Doesn’t matter what they say or whether we like what they say, they are all too soon bought and paid for. End the Fed and end lobbying.
        Return to the Constitution and a Justice system. In other words…we have to start over, without a central bank run by people we didn’t elect, who are able to control everyone and everything.

      • Martha

        I think there are some…in the third party. Unfortunately, they have less money than the elites, and they are fought tooth and nail, especially by the “so-called conservative” republicans.

    • Paul

      We need TRUE TERM LIMITS for Congress and Judges.

      No serving in the house and then the senate nor the senate and then the house.

      All term limits should be 2 terms of 4 years each.

      No career politicians.

      As a farmer said “he buried the survivors because all politicians lie.

      • Richard

        For years as I pondered term limits I thought as you…two terms of four years is enough, lately I have come to believe ONE, six year term would be better so we would never need to watch them waste half of the term in office raising money to run again.

      • Meteorlady

        Term limits sound good, but you are throwing the baby out with the bath water. I have a good senator and would be OK if he continued to serve as long as he kept listening to his constituents. South Texas has Ron Paul and I would hate for him to go away also.

        Here’s a good solution – get involved! We have our Democrat Representative that is up for re-election. He voted “no” on the health care bill only because his vote was not needed and they considered him vulnerable. Then he put a spin on that “no” vote and said he was listening to us. The fact is – he NEVER stood up and actually opposed the bill nor did he do anything to try and stop the reconciliation process. I went on line and looked at his voting record – it’s all common knowledge on the web – and he was not representing the majority of his constituents – he was representing the Democratic party.

        Then I started going to every Republican candidates’ meet and greet. Learned a lot when you talk with them face to face in a small group. I found a guy that I believe will represent me and my political views and I worked the phones one evening for him. Face to face he was a really good guy, answered all our questions (they were hard questions) and seemed to be honest and straightforward. He actually answered every question in an intelligent and thoughtful manner – wasn’t vague or didn’t give us half answers. The other candidate was good also, but he didn’t quite answer our questions entirely and was a little vague on some issues. So, armed with that knowledge I voted for the best candidate to represent me.

        Everyone needs to get involved and do that. Don’t just read the signs or see the advertising on TV. That is not the true person. A face to face is the best way and it’s easy, just go to their website and find a meeting place near you – then ask HARD questions and watch their body language and face as they answer them. Don’t accept vague or incomplete answers – hammer then until they tell you what you wanted to know. Also try and find who is donating to their campaign – that’s also telling.

      • usmadgirl

        Meteorlady,

        I completely agree! As I’ve said over & over, when you look at your representatives’ voting record & they vote with all your views, why would you want to throw them out & risk electing a RINO or a Progressive plant?

        My representatives have voted my views on everything except for Lamar Alexander on a couple of votes, but he’s done such a good job on the health care hoax I’d really have to see a much better candidate (that I first “investigate”) to replace him.

        My Congressman, Zack Wamp (a very conservative Republican), is now running for Governor & I will definitely vote for him. He’s been my congressman for YEARS & if elected as Gov., will replace a fairly moderate Dumb-o-crap, but STILL a Dumb-o-crap. Our Attorney General is also a Dumb-o-crap & I guess that’s why Tennessee hasn’t filed a law suit against the HC crap! I’ve written both my Dem Gov. & Atty Gen.

        I don’t know who will ever be able to replace Zach in Congress! Thank goodness, I’m in one of the most conservative districts of TN. Memphis, however, has that crazy goofball, Steve Cohen (D), that has said all the awful things about Tea Party people. He’s a real progressive “jackass”!

        My long-winded point is, most of us have NEVER been involved in the process; so we’ve allowed all the progressives to be elected. NOW, we’re awake, alert, knowledgeable, suspicious & have the power of the Tea Party to help us choose, promote & nominate the true conservative candidates! So don’t cut your nose off to spite your face with “term limits”. If your reps don’t represent your views, replace them with someone who does!

      • DaveH

        How do you guys think Term Limits will guarantee good behavior? It is a nice-sounding “magic” bullet, that like magic isn’t real.
        Freed of re-election worries, it would be a crapshoot as to whether they behaved or not.
        There is no substitute for voter education. We need to get educated in economic and political matters. We need to quit voting for sweet-sounding lies, and learn what the candidates really stand for by their past actions. John McCain is a good example. He presents himself as a Freedom-loving Conservative, and he is anything but that. Do your homework.

      • TIME

        Dave, I agree with you 100% I used to think that TERM limits were the gig that we needed.

        BUT not anylonger, due to just what you noted, Thus I came up with an idea that I feel is really the best way around this problem of bad performance by a congress person or a senate person.

        The PEOPLE have a recall, if said person is not doing the job well.
        Not so much an impeachment, but just a hard cold “YOUR FIRED.”
        This will with out question be very radical in nature, but it will bring these people back down to earth.

        Here is a basic idea of what I think we need to do.

        Any bills that they are asked to sign they bring back to the state and send it out to all voters, they would have a full month to look it over ask questions about said bills.

        At what point the states would have a vote on how they feel about the said bill. At that time the rep would return to DC and vote as the state asked them to.

        I know this will require a lot more effort on all of our parts.
        BUT it will also bring home all the facts prior to any Federal vote where you have zero say. You would have full say and no more of this crap thats going on now.

        So – if said person fails this basic task, they are fired ASAP, With No benifits.

        You have an other vote to find a new Congress person or Senate person.

        No bills will ever be longer than two pages, have ZERO trade offs, as in NO PORK, as in ZERO PORK.

        If – said person takes moneys from lobbyist they are fired with NO benifits.

        If they lie to the persons of the state, they are fired with NO benifits.

        This is all common sense and should be employed when all new 2010 congress and senate persons are elected. thats the only way a house cleaning will work.

        If they ever do what has been done over the last number of years. They will face prison time and loose all benifits.
        If in many cases where outright TREASON has taken place, well we all know the end game on that.
        Its well written out as to what the punishment is.

        As well the 28th amd should be put in place. Thus all laws passed the congress and senate they must also be in the same boat as the persons they serve.

        As of 2010 all Benifits that congress and the senate have gotten over the years will be null and void ASAP.
        That means they will have the same health care as you have, the same Social security as you have and the same retirement packages that the average person has. A 401K and no more full pay for life crap.

        But thats just a rough idea.

      • Yankee Will

        I LIKE IT!

      • Jana

        Time,
        I also like all of the above, and think we should utilize all of these plus have term limits. Just having term limits by themselves isn’t enough so using all of the above too, would be good.
        Term limits keeps someone from becoming a ‘Career’ politician, as well as stops them from becoming too powerful like Pelosi and Reid are right now. It also stops this nonsense of them getting a ‘retirement benefit’ for life.

      • Dolores Kool

        Why do they need benefits anyway? Term limits with no benefits, especially pensions. Their service should be for the benefit of the country and not a step to a political career, and they should have to live with the same laws as all citizens. DK

      • Carole

        I totally agree with what you have written. I have always said that if our elected officials in DC had to work for the ‘lowest minimum wage’, with absolutely no benefits, you’d have honest people there that cared about our country.
        I had to work hard to earn the little bit that I get in Social Security and it burns me to know that these bums (all of them) do nothing and look at the benefits that the tax payer has to provide them. I want to see them have to work hard (out of their vocabulary) and pay into the Social Security system the way I had to do.
        Make this retroactive to every living politician and living President so they lose their benefits just as I may end up losing my Medicare and Social Security because of the leeches in DC taking money I paid, not what they paid.
        I could go on and on but the only thing left for the ordinary citizen to do is remember, “vote them all out in 2010 and 2012″. As I read this week, BHO is counting on the citizens to have short memories and forget all this by November and put the same scum back in office that has brought us to our knees so that he can continue until he either has us flat on our face or flat on our back.

      • TIME

        Thanks for all the imput folks, I do feel they should get some benifits – but not the packages that they all have now, thats absurd and also makes many of these persons soon to be the highest paid unemployed persons in the US.

        And do we really want to pay Bart Simplepack $200.00K fo the rest of his life?
        That 15 minutes of fame pant load that knows damm well what he did was treason thus the real reason why he has opted out of running, no matter what rhetoric he states, such as his long drive to DC in the snow in his old beat up ford and how he so abused by his job.

        That tripe he is tossing out like candy coated road apples clearly reeks.

        Its quite obvious to anyone who grasp the numbers of Democrats that are {now NOT running for re-election} that they knew what there were doing was 100% WRONG in all respects.

        When you have persons who have never lost an election saying – I am not running, thats a clear statment that they understood what they have done to be 100% wrong and did it just to stay in favor with party leaders.

        Thus its “incumbent on all of us to understand” that party leaders are “not our leaders” they are in it for themselfs only, based on the results of their behavior.

        Thats not just Democrats that extends to the Republicans as well.

        Thus anyone who we allow in to office needs to understand right up front that they serve the United States Population – NOT party leaders, nor themselfs, NOR any Special interest groups. And not the President, who by the way who also serves us, not uncle George Soarass, nor the Rothchilds, nor any WORLD BANKERS.
        Thats only reasonable.

        Thats why the independant state vote on all bills / laws should be done. It draws a clear line as to what we who pay TAX’S thus we are the bottom line want.
        “The time of being told what we will get is over!” That has to change now in 2010 or else we will have the same problems.

        Also its high time we stop giving moneys to any other country. Keep our money here in the United States and build us back up.

        If just 35 states had the guts to join the now growing law suit on the HCR bill, there is not a ghost chance in hell it would become law.
        Even the courts can grasp that. If we had 40 states, it would be a slam dunk that bill would be DOA when it hit the court.

        We really need to have a PLAN, and we also really need to let anyone who runs for any office understand that THEY WORK for US – end of story.

      • Meteorlady

        Forgive me, but….. I can’t keep reading about congressional benefits and their health care. Most of it is wrong. I’m a truth sort of person even though might not always like what I find.

        Here’s some facts.

        House and Senate rank and file members make $174,000 per year. The speaker and such make a little more. That’s a lot, but if they didn’t have a lot of money when they moved to Washington it’s not a lot, as the cost of living there is really high. Some freshman congressmen and representatives actually sleep in their offices.

        Retirement Pay: Prior to 1984 members of congress and federal civil service employees did not pay into SS and had their own Civil Service Retirement System. In 1983 an amendment to the SS Act required all employees hired after 1983 to pay into SS. Since CSRS was not designed to work with SS congress developed a new plan – Federal Employees’ Retirement System Act of 1986.

        Members of congress receive retirement and health benefits under the same plans available to all federal employees. They are vested after 5 years of full participation. The congressional retirement is funded through participants’ contributions. Members of congress under FERS contribute 1.3% of their salary into FERS and under both plans pay 6.2% of their salary into SS. They are not eligible for a pension until they reach age 50 and have completed 20 years of service. Members are eligible at any age after completing 25 years of service or after they reach age 62.

        The congressional pension depends on the years of service and the average of the highest 3 years of their salary but it cannot exceed 80% of their final salary.

        Congressional Research Service reports that 413 retired members of congress were receiving federal pensions based on their service as of Oct. 2006. Of this number 290 had retired under CSRS and were receiving an average pension of $60,972. A total of 123 members have retired with service under both CSRS and FERS or with service under FERS only and their average pension was $35,952 in 2006.

        While this is a generous pension plan, they did pay into it and there are many factors that determine how much they receive. Also, while it’s conceivable that they could get payouts totaling more than a million by the time they die, thet would be the exception, not the rule.

        Bottom line – they pay into SS, they have the same health care benefits as all federal civil service employees, and they do not retire with their full salary.

      • TIME

        ML,
        I am not going to argue with whats writen, as whats written many times (looks) like it is.

        But; the facts are that after just “one term” in congress and or the senate – these persons get (FULL pay) for the rest of their lifes, and thats the facts.
        Plus health care paid for by the “TAX payers” thats for life and is a thousand times better than what they passed for the rest of us, and a hundred times better than you can buy now.
        Again a FACT.

        I known a few of these folks and they do in fact get just what they got when working “PART TIME.”
        Do you get $175K for a part time job? { I don’t know any that do.}

        And you need not live in DC proper to work Part Time in DC.
        There are areas within 50 miles that the cost are within reason.
        Just as “all Americans” must drive to work, so to should Congress and Senate persons, hey take a train, WOW – what a thought, when I go to the city I take the train, less cost when you add in parking, gas, and time.
        So the sad poor little me I can’t find a place to live crap is for the bloody birds.

        Oh and lets not forget the other PERKS that a vast amount of these folks take advantage of, not all of them, so on that I agree straight off.
        You know the perks I am talking about, things like Paid Vacations, New cars, interest free loans, Investments, Free Air flight. Thats just a few off the top of my head, all noted as favors between friends etc..

        Thanks for the points; from a Truth kinda person.

      • Claire

        Time: Very good. I like it too.

      • Meteorlady

        Time – facts are facts……

        http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/uscongress/a/congresspay.htm

        I don’t get 175,000 but I don’t have to pay 4 to 5,000 dollars for a one bedroom apartment in Washington DC either.

      • APW

        Good info, meteorlady. Could this also explain why we have so many “career politicians” – since they have to have 20 years in service just like any other retirement plan?

      • Jana

        Meteorlady,
        And they also get an automatic cost of living increase every year, plus have a very generous ‘office allowance’ that they use freely to purchase things that are supposed to be for the running of their office, but as we have seen with Pelosi, has been used for liquor and flowers for co-workers. In real life circumstances they would pay for these things out of their own pocket, but in their circumstances it is protocol to put it on their office tab. That is subsidizing their income no matter how you look at it, and most of these politicians have money to begin with.
        Another point, look at the transportation costs for the jet that Queen Pelosi uses to go back and forth from California to Washington and back. This is just one that we know about.

      • DaveH

        The thing that gets me is how did the voters turn a blind eye to Legislators assuming the right to determine their own salaries and benefits? I wish I could do that.

      • http://?? Joe H.

        Jana,
        No it isn’t a cola it’s an automatic raise that they were able to vote in for themselves!!!! I wish I could’ve by-passed my boss and gave myself a raise!!!! They by-passed the voters(SEE BOSS HERE) and were able to give themselves an automatic, manditory, yearly raise!!!!

      • Smilee

        Meteorlady, is completely correct in her post and Jana is completely correct in they do get any annual COLA increase if it applies, DaveH, the power to set their own wages and changes to their wages is guaranteed them by the constitution and of course Davy again expresses his hated for that document also that he is jealous of the Congress’s right to do so. Joey again shows his inability to say anything intelligent, poor fellow.

      • Meteorlady

        I was not defending them – I was merely stating the truth. “Time” choose to disregard it because he has heard the argument enough and truly believes it. Everyone else is just mad at them in general. My point was that if you believe this type of thing, what else is out there that is false?

        I just believe that if you are going to publicly state something you need to really check the facts – just writing or saying it doesn’t make it so.

      • Rowdy

        yes TIME they should have some benefits. The same ones I get. I posted it elsewhere but can’t post it too much. The solution I see is. We have to enact legislation allowing the citizens to form an oversight committee that has power to administer lie detector tests to any and all politicians past, present, and future to determine if they are acting or have acted in a manner befitting the betterment of the United States of America by upholding the Constitution, and the rights of American citizens. If they have not or are not, they should be removed from office and/or if retired still be subjected to an investigation to determine the degree of their transgressions. After this determination they should be punished for their crimes against their country by stripping them of any retirement benefits, health care benefits, monetary gains as a result of their term of office, banned from holding office ever again and deported from our country. All in proportion to the degree of their guilt. All politicians from that day forward would be subject to that test and again at any time randomly to ensure their dedication to performing their assigned jobs in a diligent manner for their country not for themselves. We would very soon have a much lighter tax burden and a much improved government operation.

    • EltonJ

      There goes 23% of the American Population. With expressed apology to American Liberal.

    • DaveH

      The problem is, SC, that most Freedom loving people aren’t wired to pretend to know what is best for the lives of others. So, the very people that we should employ in our Government aren’t attracted to the job.

    • Robert Wayne

      S.C. I couldn’t agree with you more. The problem is that the modern national and mainstream media does nothing but villify political candidates with an attitude and the kind of knowledge like that farmer or even worse they completely disregard those kind of candidates. During the presidential election I was campaigning for a fellow named Tom Tancredo. Tancredo’s main platform was that he wanted to put a stop to the illegal mexican invasion going on in this country. He made common sense by saying that the last thing this country needs is a bigger uneducated welfare class and that it was time the federal govt. stop pandering to illegal aliens and companies who wanted them here as cheap, undocumented labor. The mainstream media completely ignored him and other than Fox, they spent all their time kissing up to McCain, Clinton and most of all Obama. And instead of doing a little research on these candidates, the majority of sheep, uh, I mean voters, voted for the candidates that the mainstream media pushed on them. Now, instead of a president who wants to bring the troops home from the middle east and put a stop to the outright invasion of this country by mexican civilians, we’re stuck with a communist bozo who won’t be happy until he’s completely destroyed this country and turned it into another USSR or Red China. In the meantime, the voters of today who are like that farmer are people like that Joe the plumber guy who stood up to Obama during the campaign, earning the undying hatred and ridicule of the scumbag mainstream media. Unfortunately, there are way too few like that farmer or Joe the plumber nowadays and way too many clapping seals who sit there waiting for a fish every month from the federal govt.

    • momof4

      SC,
      You said it!!! And I agree!!!!!
      You know what I really want? Is honesty in a person. I just want to be able to trust a politicion again. I am so sick of the crap!

      • http://?? Joe H.

        mom,
        I liked what a sports show host said here in Cleveland. his name is Trivisanno and he said the politician he would vote for and support would be the one that promises to steal less of the voters money than the other guy. he said at least the guy would be talking with a little truth!!! I got a real kick out of it!!

  • Flynn

    Forget about Fess Parker and Daniel Boone! Davy Crockett was the real hero of the 19th century. Fess Parker was just another Hollywood “nut case”, and he was probably a democrat. Daniel Boone, though he opened up the frontier and placed his name on half of western North Carolina and eastern Tennessee, never really did anything beyond what thousands of other frontiersmen did. Davy Crockett, on the other hand, served faithfully for two terms in the U. S. House of Representatives and gave his life for the independence of Texas. Davy Crockett was the real hero as he was my hero as a kid growing up in Alabama in the Fifties.

    • RJ

      Flynn
      Get your facts right before shooting from the —–.
      Fess Parker was a republican, conservative, and a close friend of Ronald Reagan.

      I suggest that you research both Boone and Crockett. I appreciate what each man did.

      • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

        Thanks for the info., RJ. I myself wore a coonskin cap as a boy honoring Davy Crockett, portrayed by Fess Parker!

      • Robert Wayne

        You can’t really blame Flynn for suspecting Fess Parker to be another left wing Democrat. Seems like 98%, if not more, of Hollywood is made up of left wing extremists and outright communists although it probably wasn’t as bad back in the ’50s and ’60s as it is today. It really surprised me the other day when I heard Victoria Jackson, a former Saturday Night Live comic was speaking out at a tea party rally. I guess every once in a blue moon there is a sane person out in Hollywood.

    • Floyd

      Daniel Boone spoke at the First Continental Congress.His speech on
      sovereignty should be mandatory reading in every school! His motion
      to be the first speaker, as an act of mockery for he wore frontier
      clothes,turned out to humble everyone in the room. GOD bless Daniel
      Boone, Davy Crockett, and Fess Parker, whom recently died.

  • Yandle

    Mr.Wood,
    Your comment, “Davy has no choice but to acknowledge the truth of what he’s heard” contains something more precious gold, which is “to acknowledge the truth”. This is something people will not do in these days and in Davy’s words “which ignorance or prejudice, or both, had heretofore hidden”, by which people will not acknowledge the truth. Where are the Davy Crocketts in our present day? In this day and time “a man in a field plowing” is looked on as ‘unlearned and ignorant’, while in fact they have more wisdom than most have with all their learning. Very good article, Mr. Wood.

  • Richard Henderson

    when I was in the age group you are speaking of, all we had was radio, But one of David Crockett’s last known statements is on my face book, to congress ” y’all can go to helll, I’m going to Texas” , by the way, I am related to Daniel Bohun.

  • Lora Hubbel

    That was Daniel Boone – not Davy Crocket where Fess parker raptured every boy and girl who is now in their 50′s. Davy Crocket was only a miniseries….

    • Steve Proctor

      Sorry Lora, but Fess did play Davy Crokett too, so the point is still correct. And I do agree charity is for the people & Church to give of their own FREE will , not the Government decision, like sending millions of OUR $’s over seas, especially when we are broke. I would not send a dime to Hati just for the fact Obama has already sent $100 million of our tax dollars, that is a good enough donation.No other country would send us money or take up collections for us when something bad happens.

    • Bryll

      Lora,
      Davy Crocket was a miniseries on Walt Disney’s Show in the 1950′s. Fess Parker played the role of Daniel Boone in the TV series during the mid to late 1960′s. But all in all, Television and Television characters should not be the most important issue here. The history of the real Davy Crocket is what is most important.

    • JeffH

      Davy Crockett was the Disney hit television show that stars Fess Parker and Buddy Ebsen(as Georgie Russel) and became a national sensation and made coonskin caps a staple for a generation of American youngsters. With a rifle named Old Betsy, Davy Crockett fought for justice with his own brand of homespun ingenuity.
      Davy Crockett, King of the Wild Frontier and Davy Crockett and the River Pirates.

      Fond memories abound.

      • JC

        Still got my coon skin somewhere. ;)

      • http://?? Joe H.

        As I said the day itwas announced he died, One of the last hollywood GREATS has died!!! God rest his soul!!!!

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