You will mever see tort reform as long as dems control Congress , the trail lawyers are their bread and butter and donate heavly to the campaigns. There is not a honest lawyer, they always are fudging with the standards and rules. Charlie “greaseball” Rangell is the classic lawyer poster thug. Most couldn’t make a living chasing amublances, so they became Congress persons. Don’t vote for lawyers and make your voice heard in meetings how high costs of everything increases with more lawyers hanging a shingle. If any business is creating anything, they had better have a leech on retainer. After a case is settled a person only has a year to go after a lawyer. Businesses can be sued years down the road. Different rules for different folks, that is why they don’t abide by the rules like everyone has to in the real world, not the beltway!!!

Chuck B: Abortion is not the only issue I have hammering this Administration and our members of Congress about. Well over 1 year ago, I began sending e-mail to David Axelrod with suggestions on how to reduce the costs of health care. Among those suggestions were Tort Reform, Going after Medicare and Medicaid fraud, removing abortion upon demand, illegal health care through ER’s. I told them they have to realize one industry affects another. They blame the insurance industry for high premiums but they cause this by allowing it through their own policies. If you noticed, they intend to introduce Tort Reform and Medicare and Medicaid control into the current legislation. Jus 2 months after the message was sent they discovered 50 million in fraud in Florida alone. Also suggested that they consider forcing the medical and drug industry to sell their products to hospitals and clinics at the same price they give Federal facilities such as the VA Hospital.
I worked as a purchasing agent/Inventory Manager at a VA facility in Tampa, Florida. It is the largest volume wise in the VA system. I talked to other hospitals frequently and we even loaned out to them in emergencies. The difference in cost became evident. What if the Federal Government contracted out to large medical and Drug companies to purchase, invoice and ship for them with cost control the emphasis. Either that or these industries take the lead.
I believe billions upon billions would be saved and the result would be like a domino effect in the cost of doing business. As I said before, one industry affects another.

LindyMaeUSA: Sure, they pay attention to the polls but unfortunately, the lobbyists and the influence of their party are more important to them than the people they represent. Mr. Stupak also made the comment that he didn’t know how he would vote on the final version but I hope he holds true to his views about abortion in the bill. One Senator and My Representative vote the party line but they will be toast in November if this bill passes as written. In a phone call to her office in Washington D.C. 2 days ago, I said this very thing but she will take a gamble and lose.

Chuck B: You’re absolutely right!

Obama knows MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE how CRUCIAL this healthcare treachery is to his “continuity” as POTUS!

Indeed, he knows “his A– is grass!” if he doesn’t succeed in getting that 2000+ page “DestructionCare” passed on to us because the “big boys” behind the scenes have said: “If you don’t get this done, WE WON’T LET YOU have a Second Term!”

As the “pressure” builds, we see the puppet POTUS “demanding” that treacherous bill be passed “as is!” so he can triumphantly sign it into law; ACORN being “cleared” of all fraud/corruption charges to continue their filthy work; murdering/merciless Muslim Terrorists tried in America; given “access” to our laws and (probable) freedom by “Executive Order” (i.e. their Muslim Brother!) so they can attack us again but do more damage “next time” . . .

Forgive my depression Friends, but at this point, I have “no hope” for our beloved Country or us!:-(

If you can stomach it, read Ted Flynn’s book: “Hope of the Wicked” – The Master Plan to Rule the World.

At least you’ll have “some” idea of what’s REALLY going on in our Country and the rest of the world!

it is really surprising to hear most who write here are only interested in removing the abortion content of this bill. how about tort reform, not just a small fix, but a real tort reform and open the insurance market across state lines. how about redressing the medicare cut for the elderly? how about they just cancel this monstrosity and rewrite what is needed to improve healthcare and leave the healthcare as it is,
no, obummer is rewarding the illegals with healthcare and he needs this badly. this is a terrible bill and we should remove it and all who vote for it.

The only thing this bill is about is whether or not you will get care, whether you will live or die.

Whenever the news and a dem vow to do anything, you can be certain it is just another smokescreen.
They will ram the takeover life and death for all health care squalor bill through no matter what. Someone will have to shoot them to stop them.

Stupak and the rest of the Jackass Party affiliates in the houses need to read the polls and discover the fact that certain annihlation awaits them and their party for even considering the passage of this farce.

Libs just love to tell you all about what they don’t know and then expect you to listen as if each word were set in stone.

Barb, when you mentioned farm programs, using USDA figures over 1.7 billion dollars, are going to 424,000 farms and ranches, USDA’s numbers!Mostly all owned by retired people, the high point of the numbers it is a guarenteed payments plan. It idles over 31 milllion acres that has been in effect for 25 years. Why do we keep importing food? Thank the government.just another example of beltway morons.
As for the blue dogs, there just lap pooches with a lot of yap and no bite, they will cave and follow their leaders, most are eleitist over educated dumbasses just like Oidoit.
Blue, I worked for a few years as a private contractor moving mail between hubs, the PO is going broke because of the union drag butts and multilayered supervisors who walk around doing nothing except drink coffee or scratch them selves. You cann’t drive the for a contractors if you had a DUI at 18, and have a clean record ever since, but you can be a convicted pediphile and still keep your job after you do your time. Mail is sorted at least 10 times with in a state bfore it is delivered, more if mail goes out of state. A real union designed effiecent model. I was watched as a private contractor when sorting and loading mail by a union supervisor to figure out why private contractors were cheaper and faster, than Postal Service employees. When told I and the other contractors did all facets of the job and didn’t need a trained ape to speak for us. This usless dink got paid over $5,000 a month plus benifits. This was in the mid 90′s. Now they are going to raise prices, less snail mail!!

I’m one of Bart Stupak’s Upper Peninsula constituents and just a few months ago, it was rumored in our city that in order to save the elite “life-style” he’s grown so accustomed to during 19 years of Congressional privileges (plus a 6-figure annual salary) many of us did the math and concluded Mr. Stupak was eyeing the governorship of Michigan in case he gets ousted next November.

Shortly after that, we “heard” Stupak would definitely NOT be given the Michigan Governor job, so being the slick, fast-thinking politician he is, Stupak began advertising himself even more aggressively as a “good” Democrat by publicly protesting the federally-funded Abortion language in ObamaCare in an effort to (hopefully!) avoid being booted out as a self-serving, money-hungry, do nothing “representative” of the U.P. like the rest of the Washington Wolf-Pack!

Actually, objections to the federally-funded Abortion measure has been on Stupak’s “agenda” for some time which I believe he started promoting much more publicly as soon as American voter outrage and protests became LOUDER. (Don’t kid yourself about “politicians not looking at the Polls!”) I’ve watched his “body language” and listened to Stupak for 12 years.

So, “Heads Up!” fellow Americans! DON’T BE FOOLED by this man’s protests against “Federal Funding For Abortions” in the ObamaCare scam. It’s a carefully constructed façade and the “ace-up-his-sleeve” to protect Stupak’s Congressional seat in November.

It is sad, WHO can you trust? A politition? I am questioning every thing and every one – R or D!
I remember Clinton went out to shot golf balls, the secret service saw he was up-set as he swung at a ball. What is the matter? It is told Clinton answered, It’s not me that run’s this country. ???

Instead of the Libs worrying about abortion language in the Healthcare Bill, why not push pregnancy prevention counciling, THAT’S SIMETHING DIFFERENT THERE!_ AND NO I DON’T MEAN USING ABORTION AS A MEANS OF BIRTH CONTROL!
But then TO THINK OF IT the Libs wouldn’t be able to play GOD and try and control the population and make MONEY off of dead babies.
I was suppose to have been an abortion myself, my mother put her life in grave damger, but said no to the abortion and had me anyway 53 years ago___she was sick all of my life and all but 11 years of hers__I took care of her til she died at 76 13 years ago__she was my mentor and my hero____It’s sad that the Liberal preception of life today means so very little__they spend so much time on trying to prove or disprove when life begins___I say consider this HEARTBEAT_LIFE___NO HEARTBEAT_DEAD!
GOD BLESS AMERICA

I don’t think we should jump into the trust bucket with the blue dogs they are only trying to save their own hides. They’ve heard the people loud and clear and want to have a job come the next election. Remember they backed obama through the election knowing full well what they were going to pull and in one year they’ve darn near crushed this country and the worst is yet to come(and no I have not forgotten the Bush administration).I sure hope that we are not blind to their manipulations.

I watched Mr. Stupak at a town hall meeting. I am glad he is against our having to foot the bill for abortions. It should only be a factor in the case of rape or a serious issue of the woman’s health which could result in her death. Mr. Stupak though made a comment in response to a question from the audience that bothered me. He stated that Congress doesn’t pay much attention to polls. The question was “doesn’t Congress know that over 70 per cent of the population are opposed to abortion in the Health care Bill. This could only mean that they have forgotten they represent the people and our money is really theirs to do with as they wish. It is no secret they have squandered billions on nonsense and big ticket items for their own state and both parties are guilty of this. It appears most politicians become corrupt after 2 terms. They seek more influence and to get it, they become part of the process of corruption.

Raggs: I believe you must keep abreast of what transpires with our Government and I agree with your assessment. One only need to look at the actions taken to date and the appointees to the Administrations cabinet. As I see it, it is an effort to establish a European Socialist form of Government. In order to do this they must have control. Health care, financial institutions, media, etc must be under their control. They are even trying to shut down several media outlets who do not agree with their views. Not to worry though, you will see a massive unloading in November of those in Congress who have tried to push this agenda. In 2012, I believe President Obama and his Cabinet will be gone. Should the Health Care Bill pass, it will be repealed, Cap and Trade will be dead in the water, free speech will win out and legislation will be passed to right our economy. Most economists agree this Administration has gone in the opposite direction of what should be done and are taking advice from some who put this country into the mess it is in now.

It is on us to make sure the “Change” the people want is taken care of in November with our vote.

See if this doesn’t sound familiar! Catching Wild Pigs
A chemistry professor in a large college had some exchange students in the class. One day the Professor noticed one exchange student kept rubbing his back and stretching as if his back hurt. The professor asked the young man what was wrong. He stated he was shot while fighting communists in his native country who were trying to overthrow his country’s government and install a new communist government. In the midst of his story he asked the professor a strange question of which the professor thought was a joke. He asked “Do you know how to catch wild pigs? ‘You catch wild pigs by finding a suitable place in the woods and putting corn on the ground. The pigs find it and begin to come everyday to eat the free corn. When they are used to coming every day, you put a fence down on side of the place where they are used to coming. When they get used to the fence, they begin to eat the corn again and you put up another side of the fence. They get used to this side and start eating again. You continue until you have all four sides of the fence up with a gate in the last side. The pigs, who are used to the free corn, start to come thourgh the gate to eat, you slam the gate on them and catch the whole herd. Suddenly the wild pigs have lost their freedom. They run around and around inside the fence, but they are caught. Soon they go back to eating the free corn. They are so used to it that they have forgotten how to forage in the woods for themsleves, so they accept their captivity. The student then told the professor that is exactly what he sees happening to America. The government keeps pushing us toward socialism and keeps spreading the free corn out in the form of programs such as supplemental income, tax credit for unearned income, tobacco subsidies, dairy subsidies, payments not to plant corps (CRP), welfare, medicine, drugs, etc. While we continually lose our freedoms — just a little at a time. One should always remember: There is no such thing as a free lunch! Also, a politician will never provide for you cheaper than you can do it yourself. Keep your eyes on the newly elected politicians who are about to slam the gate on America. God help you when the gate slams shut!

“A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have.” Thomas Jefferson

I just have no words anylonger on this topic, Barry and his band of merry Marxist are bent on destruction of the United States.

On that note; “anyone who votes, or has voted” for any form of this NEW TAX / Law / HCR bill what ever you wish to call it, should have their butts tossed out of office.

Raggs. I never thought of it before Abortion why did they miss that opportunity? Must of been a slip up at PPH.
I never thought of it before because I know wonderful people who are here because their lives were spared. I am thankful for each one of them. I think people missed the boat, it starts with quarding your brain & underware!

Obama should be thankful that his mother did not choose an abortion!

Abortion language or not, I don’t want Obamacare passed under any circumstances. I don’t have a healthcare plan because I can’t afford one. I certainly don’t want a government run healthcare plan. The government can’t even run the government so how are they going to run healthcare? It has nothing to do with helping Americans. It’s all about power and how much the Obama regime can wield. They want to control EVERY aspect of our lives.

Raggs, you are so right. They aren’t looking out for the people. The Health Care wont go into effect until 2012, they just want the tax money we will be paying for this health plan.jIt’s all about government take over!!!

This whole boondoggle is not about health care at all… It’s about complete government control… The national I.D. card they are saying that will be used for the identification of illegals ( ironic )will be used as a national health card and every other government takeover of our lives.

Get my kids jobs @ let us buy our on health care.

I am very pleased with the bluedogs stance as should be supported from both sides of the isle. My personal beliefs also prohibit supporting paying for abortions, in any form. It is great to see congress standing up and voting their conscience rather than just voting the party line. The current health care as we know it are not supported by the majority of American. Start over, please.

Stubak TV camera hog, according to the Rachel Maddow show. There 12, (15 to 20 last month) is probably more like 4 or 5.

Amen Brother.

The Stupak stance is one we can respect, and it would garner respect for those who stood with him (respect being something which is virtually an oxymoron when applied to congress these days). Though there are multiple other issues upon which to oppose this bill, abortion is the line in the sand. May the constitution and it’s protectors guard the people of this country against mandated contributions to acts which our consciences prohibit.