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The Census Is Getting Personal

February 27, 2010 by  

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American who has been writing a newsletter since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • Jeff

    Andrew, We need more Americans like you. Keep it up.
    Obama is a muslim and is soft on terrorism created by muslims. Surely not an American. Who paid for his “Harvard” education? It is obvious don’t you think?

    • Andrew

      Jeff, many Americans are not born rich and earn scholarships to the Ivy league schools. “Obama is a muslim and is soft on terrorism” – oh no, we’re back to paranoid talking points. Your red herring ain’t going to work, try substance for a change. I am not blindly supportive of ANY pres.

      Bush and crew were blind to cultures and Iraq is having its last election. Many Iraq politicians and “higher ups” have expressed the desire for Saddam to be back in recent days. Iraq will become a slighly kinder authoritarian state. Making Iraq a democracy was Bush’s 5th excuse for the Iraq war.

      I’ve been critical of Obama NOT putting strings on his part of TARP and other things. I got thousands to demand he use brass knuckles on pubs as they always use them. Demanded he use reconciliation – like your hero, Bush. If he gets real progress for US at home and abroad as a one term pres, that’ll beat 2 terms of generational destruction by Bush. Rove used speeches of Josef Goebbels (changing a few words) for Bush to sell the Iraq war – I looked up Goebbels speeches and Bush speeches, wasn’t surprised on how the war of lies was launched.

      Fighting terrorism with large mil forces is like trying to hit flies with a sledge hammer. Afghanistan is not the issue as much as Pakistan is per killing off the Taliban. I come from a family that has 3 generation of combat service for US. Dad was with British intel in WW2, CIA for 20 years when immigrated to US. FYI, al Qaeda is now amorphous – intel and special police are how to nail them before too much damage, will take 2 generations to accomplish.

      US out of ME and energy independent will go a long way. There’s a new book out on how to really weaken al Qaeda in 2 years, only seen a synopsis so far which looks sensible – check the link I provided you. barnesandnoble.com/error.asp?dec=4049780312592493. Read it in full as I’m going to. US has NEVER faced this kind of war and is still learning. Get your “facts” from non-partisan sources before writing dribbel. Cheers.

      • eyeswideopen

        Hands clapping.

  • http://none John Detwiler

    Whether Obama is or is not the question, The question is are his policies good for our country? Well the answer should be obvious. NO he is responcible for listening to a bunch of incompetents who are intent on one thing. Leading the United States down the path of insolvency and Socalism. If you are the least bit religous I suggest a lot of prayers.

  • Joel Kruskie

    You may be on to something there Marv. But it’s not greed for money, that’s a by product. The greed is for power. With all the power who needs money? If you’re looking for a real patroit for president, it will be some one who won’t take corporate donations but appeals to the individual donations. You don’t have to be a ivy leaguer grad, just know right from wrong and use common sense. Some of those programs may hurt for a time but will tend to bring families closer together and make the country stronger with pride. As far as the census goes, in my case the answer is one patroit and the way out is behind you!

  • Marv

    Lets face it, you can not have your party for 100 and then a 1000 show up? Yes Bush and Obama are educated people to a point. Didn’t you ever wonder, if these people in Washington were so smart, Why are we in the mess were in? It’s called GREED! These two Parties have destroyed America? They have there own agenda! I’m sick of parties! I see it for what it is! Wake-up!

  • http://LitterJet@comcast.net Andrew

    “Obama has not been to church a single time with his “christian” family since he has been in office. Maybe he misses the America hating reverend Jeremiah Wright. Obama makes a lot of promisses he can’t keep. He’s a one term president. Good ridance!”

    Don’t care if Bush or Obama go to a “Christian” or any church. Bush, with the help of Rove, a student of Josef Goebbels, helped lie US into the Iraq money pit, the unfunded tax cuts when fighting 2 wars – an idiotic first, unfunded medicare drug plan. With the hole neocons left US in, they clearly hate 95% of US far more than Wright. If Obama is a one term president, he’ll have rammed so much sensible stuff through, the neos will be having strokes. Bush used reconciliation many times on BIG issues, don’t cry when Obama does what your lying hero did. You can’t always get what you want, get used to it.

    • Bob blum

      Sorry to hear that you will take what is pushed down to you. I prefer to work within the system in order to reform it for the it’s betterment. You are correct that you do not always get what you want, but to give Up and not fight for what you think is right is a sin against the constitution and the USA. The amount of hateful blame being thrown around serves no purpose other than detracting from the real debate. Everybody has there own opinion and the right to voice it thanks to the constitution. If change is needed the American people will reach a concensus and admendments will be made. At that point I will gladly follow it’s new direction.
      The census worker canvasing my neighborhood appeared twice at my door and was given the number of people residing at my address. When asked other questions I directed the worker to the approprate government agency. And finally I asked what security procedures were followed to protect my personal data to which they turned and left. The surprising thing be me was the census worker was able to threaten legal action but when asked to explain what law I violated and how they had no answer at all, not one word. So I must assume that they were instructed to act like thugs but run when challenged. Oh, did you know that all census operations were moved to the white house?
      Thanks for listening.

  • Felitodcat

    Obama has not been to church a single time with his “christian” family since he has been in office. Maybe he misses the America hating reverend Jeremiah Wright. Obama makes a lot of promisses he can’t keep. He’s a one term president. Good ridance!

  • Felitodcat

    Ditto to the above.

  • http://WILLIAMS230@BELLSOUTH.NET robert williams

    AMEY YOU ARE AS MUCH A SOCOLIST COMUNIST AS oBAMA IS AND IF YOU HAVE THE GUTS TO READ THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNINTSD STATES FOR YOURSELF IF YOU STILL AGREE WITH OBAMA,S OUTLOOK ON THE MATTER THEN bOTH YOU HIM AND ALL THE SOCOLIST BUMS CAN GET THE HELL OUT OF THIS COUNTRY THAT MYSELF AND OTHERS LIKE ME FOUGHT TO KEEP THE FEW FREEDOMS WE HAVE LEFT THIS IS MY OPENION AS A FREE PERSON SO WHY DONT ALL YOU COMMYS PACK UP AND HEAD FOR RED CHINA WITH OBAMAS STOOPED Step Brother

    • http://LitterJet@comcast.net Andrew

      “THE SOCOLIST BUMS CAN GET THE HELL OUT OF THIS COUNTRY THAT MYSELF AND OTHERS LIKE ME FOUGHT TO KEEP THE FEW FREEDOMS WE HAVE LEFT”, Yeah, the Patriot Act has infringed. My family was in combat in WW1, WW2, Korea, Vietnam, and Gulf war 1. So, why don’t you leave US?

  • Kristy

    I also have a problem with what this census is costing us. The last time around it came to $15 per person this time it is $45!!! 14 billion dollars!!!!! WHY did they feel the need to advertise it during the superbowl? Do you know what it costs for a superbowl ad? The census is a huge waste of money. Only law abiding citizens will answer the questions- as has been pointed out the illegals are not going to do it. And the government already knows all of this info about those of us who pay our taxes. So they are spending a ridiculous amount of money obtained from the tax payer to count the tax payers. If people do not think the government already knows all about us and where we are etc. just try not paying your taxes and see how long it takes them to find you.

  • Barb

    Obama & his census thugs will get the message that the vast majority of Americans aren’t as stupid as they seem to think we are! The more Obama interacts with the general public like this the more he is going to see that he is in way over his empty head! He’s already showing signs of running scared, so is Pelosi! If we keep standing up for our rights no matter how minor it seems and do it often and loudly we will prevail! My entire neighborhood is just chomping at the bit waiting for those census thugs to show up!

  • Jean Allen

    Hi all,
    Great forum. I would like to say that I only give our names and the number of people in the household. That’s it. I just send it back. Don’t be a sheeple. You don’t have to fill it out. Just say no. And if they come to your door, you say, “I’ve filled out the census, and I’ve sent it in”. If they try to take measurements or GPS coordinates of your home, call the sheriff. The Sheriff of your county has the power to keep government officials (however misguided) at bay, and is supposed to protect the citizens. The census takers are just people who are desparate to make a few bucks, so don’t take it out on them. Be polite and insist that they leave you and your family alone, and that they stay off your property or you will call the sheriff. Kindly inform them that what they are doing is Anti-constitutional. They will get the message when they hear it up and down your street and in all the neighborhoods.

  • http://Hotmail Cody

    Hello, The more we become a Socialist Society here in America, the more that we are going to be required to answer questions put to us like you will find in the new census. You’ll know the signs, especially when the census askes, “Do you, or does anyone in your household, own firearms?”

    When retired Russian Military Officers were asked, “What was the number one problem Russia invisioned in attacking U.S.A?” The answer? “Americans are armed”.
    We still are. Lets keep it so because if you think that the Gov is screwing you now? Wait till you lose your right to bear and own arms.

    • http://LitterJet@comcast.net Andrew

      Loss of gun/weapon rights ain’t happening. I’m a rational progresive in AZ with various weapons. Thought I was pretty good with accuracy and tactics until a Special Forces friend took me out in the desert for the best training available. I never look for trouble, weapons are for situations of attack on me by drug runners in some sections to rednecks who may not like some of my occassional bumper stickers.

  • Chuck Gilliam

    Inflation means that EVERYTHING goes sky high, and that is usually caused by a weak dollar which is usually caused by printing presses running wild. Is that right?? Census taking is a method of employing a whole gaggle of those unemployed individuals, whose bosses find a way to spread money around like it was running free as a spring. Is that right?? Ah ha ! And therein lies the real truth. With 53 million homes to visit, I can easily see the creation of Obama’s 3 million jobs and an explanation of how his friends will all get rich. And who was it that said Obama is not as bright as people think he is? ha. But tell me this, anyone, if we have a sky rocketing inflation where our home values will ascend to the levels prior to our big crash, is that a bad thing? If the Real Estate market stays low while everything else goes sky high, what will that do to those investing in gold and silver or other commodities? Is that also a bod thing? Do I sound confused? Well, guess what, it is only because I AM! Everybody is confused! We need to hate Obama all together, or respect the lousy bastard for what he is and for what we the people expect him to be, or NOT to be. More confusion ! And the answer is the Zionists have done it again ! Woe, woe, woe, is me !

  • http://personallibertynews grape

    I worked for a utility in n. c. . last censes as I went through the black neighborhood working day after day their was cecses packages left all over the neighborhood, in mail boxs,porches,you name it.none were completed they just did not care. am I a racist? no just telling the truth

  • Downsized

    Step 1- control the media
    Step 2- control the financial institutions
    Step 3- control manufactoring
    Step 4- control healthcare (they’re workin on it)
    Step 5- control food supply (FDA)
    Step 6- declare martial law and confiscate all weapons (Next?)
    Lenin,Stalin,Marx,and Mao would be so proud……..I’m just thinkin’ out loud…..

    • Downsized

      Wow, I used to get arguments when I said stuff like that.Now I really am afraid…….

    • http://LitterJet@comcast.net Andrew

      “Step 1- control the media, Foreign owned Fox does a great job at that
      Step 2- control the financial institutions, NO regulate them, are you clueless as to what neo reckles deregulation did to US?
      Step 3- control manufactoring, neopubs did great job – they exported 6 million jobs under Bush alone, Reagan did similar.
      Step 4- control healthcare (they’re workin on it), working on public option which WILL pass with Medicare premiums deficit neutral, give criminsurance companies competition, we have control over gov’t at voting time, no control over ins.
      Step 5- control food supply (FDA), break it up or eliminate the incompetant agency.
      Step 6- declare martial law and confiscate all weapons, never happen, I and too much of US like them for various reasons, I like the security they bring me.
      Lenin,Stalin,Marx,and Mao would be so proud……..I’m just thinkin’ out loud…..”, Right wing fascist dictatorships are so proud of last US regime.

  • lawmann

    In 2000, there was a huge push by census takers to ask for personal information. I do not see any issues with providing the Constitutionally mandated information to the census takers; that is 3. Three is the number of individuals living at my address. Hoe much I make, the value of my home, how far I drive to work, my disabilities, and so on are really none of their business.

    I was actually threatened by the census taker with jail and a hefty fine. I told them “3″, and closed the door on them.

    This year, my answer will once again be “3″.

  • Warrior

    Let’s see. We file our tax returns every year displaying our earnings, who we’re employed by, how many are in the household, ages,etc, etc. We pay property taxes each year that displays the value of our homes.

    What is the point of all of this again? Do you think illegals are going to answer the door and respond to all these questions?

    Oh, by the way, it appeared the new jobs bill provided some more money for the censeless taking.

  • TSmith

    The whole idea of the census being for counting taxpayers is ignorant, the census is becoming a tool for politicians to use to throw numbers around on TV when they speak about this or that.

    We have to stop letting these people put us into little boxes on a sheet of paper. Things like the census promote racism, believe it or not, and I’m a 27 year old white boy with a degree in Information Technology.

    Politicians are blocking us off according to nationalities and using those numbers against us. If people can’t grasp this then “Baaaah” see you at the political slaughter house.

    Should they not be able to take census from taxes? The whole idea of spending extra money for the census seems dumb to me.

    I’m an American and I pay my taxes, you don’t need to know anything else.

  • ElizabethZ

    All you have to do is read some of the responses to commentators like Jerry Day and it shows just how uneducated our people from the government schools are. Civics is no longer taught in school from k through 12, nor is it anywhere in most colleges. I am gratified to know that I am not alone in refusing to answer such questions. When the census taker comes to my door, he/she will get a single answer, period.

  • Jodee

    Like Jerry said, the census is allowed only the NUMBER of people living in your home. Nothing more. Thats all they will get from me WITH a copy of the constitution and alot of questions for them. I suggest all people get a small copy of the Constitution and send it with them along with ONLY the number of people in your household. And make SURE its ONLY every 10 yrs. as the Constitution states! Then write or plead the 5th on everything else.
    And…this had nothing to do with whether we “Like” obama or not. Its a matter of our FREEDOMS.I am actually anxious for them to come knocking. If its ACORN, make sure you slam the door as they leave (after telling them to go flip sand!)

  • http://skinnyminnie65@hotmail.com skinny minnie

    Thank you Jerry Day for sharing your opinion.
    Why should we tell some strangers our personal information.???
    I want to know, why they want to know all that???
    They are suppose to count taxpayers…End of story…!!!

    • eyeswideopen

      skinny, hate to tell you , but every site you visit, is gleeing info about you and your family. Every key stroke, for banking, entertainment, shopping, information gathering, is recorded and used by someone, wanting to sell you something. Haven’t you shopped for car insurance, put your home address in and automatically all the cars at your residence pop up on the screen? Right now, someone knows you are at a political site, there is no more privacy. You did hear about the Patriot Act didn’t you? This is life in the 21st Century.

  • SiliconDoc

    What’s really frightening is they scheduled a Q&A, demanded questions in advance, then CANCELED the whole deal when they didn’t find a compliant brain dead no rights exist for me there is no Constitution except a living and breathing totally flexible to anything one, sheep.

  • s c

    Hannah and DeeC, you two sound like you’re barely out of high school, and you just can’t wait to fork over personal information to what is perhaps the worse data miner in the world. Put your trust in those who EARN it. Uncle Sham rarely deserves it.
    At some point, the government will be so powerful that it won’t hesitate to ask questions that are extremely offensive to anyone who loves freedom and sees politicians for who and what they are. Do not march boldly into the coming New World Order.
    And be damned careful what you wish for. King Obummer may give it to you.

    • http://LitterJet@comcast.net Andrew

      “Do not march boldly into the coming New World Order.
      And be damned careful what you wish for. King Obummer may give it to you.” Shrub beat him to it. Allowed 6 million jobs to go abroad. Cheney and Reagan, “deficits are irrelevant” – I guess they meant if they were GOP created.

  • http://MozillaFirefox DeeC

    Dear Hannah, First,I love your name. I am so glad you support our President as I also think the same as you do. I am upset over the questions that the 2010 census is asking. If these are necessary questions why won’t the census speak up about their reasoning or necessity for them. Maybe they want to know if a person is handicapped so that handicapped ramps can be made for the subways and businesses. If there are more handicapped people in one area of a town it may justify more handicapped access buses or even taxis. If the census wants to know how you get your income, such as where you work. It may be relevant to say whether or not you work in the public or private sector. So that more jobs can be developed in one area over another. As far as asking whether or not a person has insurance may make a case for the health care insurance debate. Life,home or auto are different though-Why would they need to know that? That may lead to questions such as: How much is your home worth? Do you own a car? How much life insurance do you carry?. Maybe they need all this information so that they can have a baseline knowledge of where money is being spent? WHY? Oh well…maybe the Census should answer that one. NOW, NOW for all those who want to be critical, I’m only saying MAYBE! Thanks to all who made it to the end of my opinion!

    • jane

      Wake UP!!!!! PLease for the sake of our children….WAKE UP…this is unconstitutional!!!!! Yeah maybe they can identify child trafficing potential(possibly ACORN’s side line)Maybe areas of elderly/retirement will be identified for CHEMTRAIL purposes!!!!!! I would have laughed at someone writing such things only a year ago, but now if you state the facts you sound like a paranoid fool. Just think, the world has hated some of our presidents(like Bush) But a lot of the world is truely thinking that Obama is the ANTI-CHRIST!!! A greedy little narcisis with many progressive greedy narcisis friends that want their 15 min. of fame ruling the world!!!! They deserve their own little island so they can rule their world, tax it to death and steal from each other for fun!

      • http://LitterJet@comcast.net Andrew

        “Obama is the ANTI-CHRIST!!!” That makes Bush the true Satan. Religion is the cause of incredible bloodshed by war. Politics and gov’t poicy need to be separate from religion. Religion of any type should be allowed to flourish with counter balances to prevent extremism from wrecking the country.

      • http://aol.com Jase

        Andrew.

        You have spoken continually in your comments about being educated and studying the history of events and nations to further educate ourselves on things are happening based on past events and decisions. How is it then that you can state that religion should be separated from politics? The entire U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights were written by a group of God fearing Christian men who in the very writing swore an oath to God, for the upholding of these documents. Not to mention the very laws themselves are a direct reflection of The Law given to Moses for his people. If you research the key people or the founding fathers who wrote these documents and established this great country of ours, they were believers of the God of Israel, the God of Moses, and whether you know it or want to except it or not, the God of YOU. Every knee shall bow, and every tongue confess. Every includes you and me. Thanks

      • http://LitterJet@comcast.net Andrew

        You obviously are not a student of history. Our founding fathers were not Christians, they were Deists. Many of them were anti-religion. Thomas Jefferson for example was a deist and saw organized religion as a very negative influence upon society.
        In spite of right-wing Christian attempts to rewrite history to make Jefferson into a Christian, little about his philosophy resembles that of Christianity. Although Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence wrote of the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God, there exists nothing in the Declaration about Christianity.

        Although Jefferson believed in a Creator, his concept of it resembled that of the god of deism (the term “Nature’s God” used by deists of the time). With his scientific bent, Jefferson sought to organize his thoughts on religion. He rejected the superstitions and mysticism of Christianity and even went so far as to edit the gospels, removing the miracles and mysticism of Jesus leaving only what he deemed the correct moral philosophy of Jesus.

        Distortions of history occur in the minds of many Christians whenever they see the word “God” embossed in statue or memorial concrete. For example, those who visit the Jefferson Memorial in Washington will read Jefferson’s words engraved: “I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every from of tyranny over the mind of man.” When they see the word “God” many Christians see this as “proof” of his Christianity without thinking that “God” can have many definitions ranging from nature to supernatural. Yet how many of them realize that this passage aimed at attacking the tyranny of the Christian clergy of Philadelphia, or that Jefferson’s God was not the personal god of Christianity? Those memorial words came from a letter written to Benjamin Rush in 1800 in response to Rush’s warning about the Philadelphia clergy attacking Jefferson (Jefferson was seen as an infidel by his enemies during his election for President). The complete statement reads as follows:

        “The returning good sense of our country threatens abortion to their hopes, & they [the clergy] believe that any portion of power confided to me, will be exerted in opposition to their schemes. And they believe rightly; for I have sworn upon the altar of God, eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. But this is all they have to fear from me: & enough too in their opinion, & this is the cause of their printing lying pamphlets against me. . .”

        Jefferson aimed at laissez-faire liberalism in the name of individual freedom, He felt that any form of government control, not only of religion, but of individual mercantilism consisted of tyranny. He thought that our civil rights have no dependence on our religious opinions, any more than our opinions in physics or geometry.

        Cheers

      • http://LitterJet@comcast.net Andrew

        Jase,

        A bit of advice: I suggest that you do more research and actually read some history books before espousing distortions and procrustinations about the values and beliefs that our country was founded upon.

      • eyeswideopen

        Jase, if you believe that the Constitution was written for the Christian nation, why wasn’t religion addressed for four years after the Constitution was ratified? Why wasn’t Jesus/Christ name anywhere in the documents? Under God, yes, under, Christ, no. I am a Christian who understands our Founding Fathers and the fine documents they left us. I will go get you a site you can read and then you will understand why they didn’t include religion.

      • eyeswideopen
    • http://LitterJet@comcast.net Andrew

      Agreed! The census has more questions as US is a more complex society, BUT some questions violate privacy. The TeaGOPs are bending the census issues for new ways to get back in power at any cost. Propaganda, repeated lies and fear mongering are their way. The last great pub pres was Eisenhower – sad it’s been so long.

  • http://yahoo.com Hannah

    I knew Obama would be blamed by you and your 53% who blamed him for the recession. You are not sincere to yourself, how can you be sincere to your pollsters?

    I am a Hilary supporter, but see nothing wrong with Obama, as president of America. I love President Bush, but you know Obama is not the cause of what’s wrong with the financial system. You just cannot stand Obama being in the White House. I have news for you. God placed Obama there, and neither you, nor the other haters will remove him

    • lawmann

      Hannah,

      You yourself are not being honest with yourself or to those who are taking the poll. President Bush left the White House with a $400B debt to the US taxpayer. Since January 2009, that debt has grown to over $1.4T (that’s TRILLION), over 3 times what it was under Bush. The Democrats unilatterally voted to increase that cap to over $12.4T (yes, 12.4 TRILLION) on Dec 24, 2009 in a 60-39 vote. The only votes for the measure (60) were the Democrats. President Obama believes Government is the answer to all domestic problems; I contend that Government is the problem. The TARP, bailouts, Government take-overs, and frivilous spending have not only made the economic situation worse, but are prolonging it.

      We do not “hate” Obama, the term “Obama hater” seems to be reserved for those who do not agree with the liberal agenda; but there was no shame on the part of liberals for the “Bush bashing” that went on during the 8 years of the Bush Administration. To me that is hypocrosy.

      So to respond to your comment, yes, Obama and the Democrats are responsible for the current fiscal situation. In addition, God didn’t put Obama into the White House, misled American voters did, voters who were promised more than what Obama could ever deliver. Maybe you should e-mail the Obama administration about their insincerity.

      • Swansong

        Lawmann! 1000% in agreement.

      • http://LitterJet@comcast.net Andrew

        BALONEY! The wars, the 2 huge tax cuts, the Medicare Prescription program were done as supplementals (off the books). Get your facts straight.

    • http://joeaeverson@hotmail.com Joe A. Everson

      ——————————————————————————–
      Posted: February 23, 2010

      By Bob Unruh
      © 2010 WorldNetDaily

      An appeals court has indicated it is listening to arguments in a case that challenges Barack Obama’s occupancy in the Oval Office with a ruling that gives special permission for an extra-long document to be filed in the case.

      WND has reported on the case brought by attorney Mario Apuzzo in January 2009 on behalf of Charles F. Kerchner Jr., Lowell T. Patterson, Darrell James Lenormand and Donald H. Nelson Jr.

      Named as defendants were Barack Hussein Obama II, the U.S., Congress, the Senate, House of Representatives, former Vice President Dick Cheney and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

      The case alleges Congress failed to follow the Constitution, which “provides that Congress must fully qualify the candidate ‘elected’ by the Electoral College Electors.”

      The complaint also asserts “when Obama was born his father was a British subject/citizen and Obama himself was the same.” The case contends the framers of the U.S. Constitution, when they adopted the requirement that a president be a “natural born citizen,” excluded dual citizens.

      • amy

        More birther bs…you people will say anything and go anywhere to dis President Obama.
        this country would be in much better shape if instead of working so hard to stand in the way of progress people put their energy in volunteerism and actual work for change.
        Intelligent, patriotic, caring Americans put Obama in the white house.
        Ignorant, obstructionist, lazy, racist fools are trying to re-write history. Get over it….we had to suffer Bush now it’s time to fix what Cheney and Bush did.

      • leela

        Question Amy:

        You’ve suggested “people put their energy in volunteerism and actual work for change.”

        I don’t care HOW MUCH You, I, or every American volunteers & works (if we can find it) — Do you think WE can reduce the approved 12+ TRILLION Budget Deficit the current Administration has created for us??

      • http://LitterJet@comcast.net Andrew

        “Do you think WE can reduce the approved 12+ TRILLION Budget Deficit the current Administration has created for us??”

        I give you the benefit of good intent, however your inability to know what the deficit #s were when Obama took office are apalling. I suggest you study history, not from Right or Left, but objective sources with NO agenda. After your review of current history, go back to 1860. Study the Confederate constitution. You’ll find they had term limits, phasing out of slavery by all new borns to slaves are born free. Lincoln PERMANENTLY divided the US with the war, made it impossible for a much more level playing field for blacks where no one would have felt the need for affirmative action, etc. When you complete your history studies, you’ll be able to write with substance and integrity. The Regressives have some good points on the constitutionality of the new depths of info the census wants.

        The filibuster is unconstitional and destructive. Study the history of Poland over 100 years back when its provinces had to achieve a 60% majority on anything. The results were a weak Poland that got taken over by surrounding nations. Understanding history is needed to prevent repeating its bad parts. Health and Happiness to you.

      • Donna

        Hey Amy,

        Is that why the intelligent, patriotic and caring Americans are now “changing” their minds about obama and that’s why his ratings are continuing to drop? As well as the congress rating of 14%. Your key word is “progress”(read up on progressivism you may be surprised). If he has nothing to hide, the birth certificate will prove it. To me anyone who won’t put an end to the controversy by producing any document, may have something to hide. They asked John McCain for his and he produced it. Ignorant, obstructionist, lazy fools. you mean the ones who “actually” want to be handed everything and supported by the government? And we all know there are plenty out there. Stop with the racisim. It’s getting old.

      • http://LitterJet@comcast.net Andrew

        “It’s the economy, stupid”. IMO, Obama should have tackled economy first and treated the pubs with brass knuckles, you know, the way the pubs get when in power. Econ recovery should have been accelerated by doing as many reconciliations as needed – like Bush. The logical way for health reform is public Medicare option where the premiums make it deficit neutral. Gov’t is accountable at election time, insurance companies are not accountable and have great owner ship of the pubs. US insurance being 2x the nations it wants to export to makes it non-competitive. Bush in not funding Adult stem research has China, Germany, New Zealand, Australia surging ahead in more and more effective therapies. I funded younger diabetic brother to go to Germany and his diabetes is 20% of what it was, he’s a new man. Diabetes costs US 200B/yr. Want to save a Trillion/year, have effective stem treatment for just 4 of chronic disabling diseases – another proud Bush/conserv/evang legacy.

      • Ronald Sluder 46970

        The Problem is this, Change that is against the Consttitution of the United States is not Change for America but for someone else.

      • Gary

        Calling people who demand verification of the pretender Obama’s citizenship “birthers” does not make the reality go away. Apparently, those who love Obama do so solely because his skin is black, because he is otherwise an empty vessel. That makes Obama-lovers racist hypocrites. The fact that he has spent millions to hide his actual birth papers and phony Columbia University claims should tell any reasonable person that this man is nothing more than a con man.

      • Michael

        He isn’t legal. If he was he wouldn’t be spending thousands on lawyers to throw the challenges out. It is common sense stupid. If it came down to $100 or me showing the “Proper Authorities” the documents, I would do it. Instead he has spent thousands.

      • MichelleO

        What fix it by tripling the national debt??????? stupid, stupid
        stupid!!!!!!!

      • MichelleO

        the stupid comment was meant for Amy

      • http://LitterJet@comcast.net Andrew

        Good luck! Your better off buying lottery tickets – beter odds. LOL

    • Donna

      Hannah how can you say GOD placed Obama where he is, when in fact he didn’t even acknowledge prayer day as the past presidents have done. He would not even allow a fly over for this event, there again as past presidents have done.

      • Brock

        Hey Folks, God could have put Obama in place. He did the same for King Nebuchadnezzar in the Bible (Daniel Chapter 1-4. Allow our minds to open a little. God could have put Obama there to chasten and punish his children in order to bring us back to Him(God). He loves us but we as Americans probably need a spanking right now. It is possible because history in the bible has proven it. In the end a God hating King Nebuchadnezzar was brought to his knees. He finally recognized God and became a humble servant to God. The last thing I will type is Gods words, not mine. In Daniel 4 verse 37 (Now I Nebuchadnezzer praise and extol and honour the King of heaven, all whose works ARE truth, and his ways judgement: and those who walk in pride he is able to abase(humble)! I ask everyone to read Daniel and then tell me that my first sentance isnt true.

        The only way America will heal itself is to pray more daily and fervantly. If we will spend as much time praying as we do watching one tv show a day, then God will bend his ear toward us and will be restored again as a great nation.

        Just my humble opinion.

      • mom

        AMEN! Brock, AMEN!

    • jane

      Hannah if you don’t see anything wrong with stealing the wealth of americans to give to Chicago thugs and their special interest chronies, if you want to look like Europe(bankrupt,burning,violent and going without….Paying 65% of the little they make to save the planet(lies to steal their wealth) Well then, you keep telling the people that have been fleeced, there businesses closed due to Obama..OBAMA taxes, how dumb they are, Go ahead vote for Hillary,Obama,and all the “New World Order” freaks. You Like being told what and when to do…well keep voting us back to slavery.Or you could just move to France or Honduras or Iran, they do what they are told and they work to give their money to the Dictator and his friends. Didn’t you know Chaves is a mentor to Obama and gang…You better wake up girlie while you still own a little money and a few personal rights.

    • Mona

      God is not involved in politics. If he was, we wouldn’t have the corruption we have. I can’t see that any of these administrations have done a lot for the people. If I spent money like our Government does, I would be out in the streets. Obama isn’t the only one that hasn’t seemed to know or care how to run our country. He is just doing worse than the rest.

    • Eva

      Hannah,
      Just because we don’t want Obama in the White House doesn’t necessarily mean that we hate him personally. We hate what he’s doing to the country by expanding government and redistributing wealth, which he said he would do on the campaign trail. He also said that the middle class would not be taxed, but he’s changing his mind on that. Remember “The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.” If you review the story of King Saul, the first king of Israel, you will remember that it was not God’s will for him to become king. But out of the stubbornness of the people’s hearts, they chose him anyway, which God allowed. Saul was not a good king. Though God may have allowed Obama to become President, He may have done so out of the stubbornness of the hearts of those who voted Obama in. Fortunately, according to the Bible, if as a nation we humble ourselves and repent of our wrong doings, God will heal our land, so that once again all of us can have the opportunity to prosper. But first we must humble ourselves and repent.

      • http://LitterJet@comcast.net Andrew

        “We hate what he’s doing to the country by expanding government and redistributing wealth, which he said he would do on the campaign trail.”
        At least he was honest on the campaign trail, unlike Bush. BTW, US greatest economic expansion happened from the late ’40s to late ’60s. The middle class won WW2 which conservs/pubs opposed entering – if they had won out, US would’ve had the NAZI knife to it’s throat. The GI bill of that time got many vets a higher ed helping US climb the economic ladder to super power status. The end of the Vietnam war (an idiotic waste) and the Arab oil embargo wrecked the ’70s (Carter was no help, failed to do a “JFK” on Iran, like, “release the hostages or Iran will be wiped off the map”. Bush didn’t have the stones to give Taliban 24 hours for giving US Bin Laden else be wiped off the map, and he talked so tough – LOL.

        Redistribution of wealth allowed US to become a super power, the rich could have moved abroad and lived like kings, they did anyway, even with redistribution. Reagan ran great deficits and tripled tax rates on the middle class which is diminishing by the day. Bush helped export 6 million jobs – what a patriot NOT. NO God will turn US around, it’s up to US. Why don’t you study unbiased history and analyze for cause and effect before writing propaganda and absurdities.

      • eyeswideopen

        Well said!!!

      • Dave

        “unbiased history”…would that be “Andrew’s version” or the “Progressive/Liberal/Marxist Revisionist” version? Obama rejects the exceptionalism that makes us America. He wants us to be Far West Europe and he’s succeeding at it. He’s spent more money in one year than this country has spent in it’s whole history…to include the hated George Bushes term. (Yet he continues to blame Bush…get over it.) This impostor/empty suit has one goal in mind…the destruction of what makes America America: Hard work, strong belief in God, self-reliance and the insistence that America and its people will not tolerate the destruction of their culture and way of life by outsiders. It isn’t very strange that Obama, an outsider (Kenyan, British citizen Muslim) is doing exactly that…destroying America. Obama continues to “apologize” for America to a cluster of nations that are dependent on America for their economic, culture, and political survival. America is destined for third world status as long as there are fools like yourself who continue to push for the Obama Plan of Hope and Change. My Hope will remain in the TRUE Messiah and, no thank you, keep your “Change”.

    • Ronald Sluder 46970

      Hi Hannah
      Strange this fight that we are in. It is not one of Flesh and Blood it is one of the mind, a battle of witts, a battle of words. The scriptures say one that would put down another s Character is the same as one that has killed him. So nothing I have to say bad of anyone. I do say and can tell from my suroundings that there is much amiss in our country. We may not be able to pinpoint just where or who,however if we see flames coing out of the building we know there is a fire there. We must get back to the United States Of America Consttitution or this country soon will not be. At one time we were a God Fearing Nation, not it is said I can’t even speak His Name. And you want to squable?

    • kathy

      obamacrimes.com
      Hannah
      This will be interesting to see why Obama spent well over 3 million dollars of his own personal funds to seal up all records including birth certificate, Columbia University college transcripts, passport, and on and on. Why doesn’t anyone that attended Columbia University remember Obama? Hmmm.
      No, I don’t hate Obama; but, I do hate a Fraud! Especially a Muslim FRAUD intent on destroying our country. And no. I am not a right winged radical, nor a “birther” conspiracy theorist, nor a racists. I am just a typical hard working American female concerned about our rights eroded by a Muslim with a Communistic agenda. And yes Hannah…A MUSLIM who believes in the Koran which scripture demands the beheading of all Christians & Jews. Don’t believe me? RESEARCH!
      And did you see the pic of a Christmas tree ornament hanging on the White House tree? It was an ornament with Chao’s face on it. Oh..u probably don’t know who that is do u? Better WAKE UP! Start doing some actual research besides listening to the Mainstream Media BOOB TUBE! You will never say that “God put Obama in the White House” again! Shame on you.

      • eyeswideopen

        Muslims, don’t have to try and destroy this country, we are doing fine all by ourselves. The fear mongering done by the repubs to split this nation are discusting and sound just like the John Birch Society of the 60′s. The repubs think you can start two wars, pass Medicare Advantage(800billion) none of which was funded and cut over a trillion in tax revenue without any repercussions. Now they want the power back to fix what they screwed up, and we are supposed to trust them? LMAO!!! First you would have to admit what you did, and that AIN’T gonna happen.

      • Algorp

        to eyeswideopen….
        Your eyes might be open, but you forgot to take the bag off your head.

    • http://boblivingston anne

      Hannah time for you to know the truth rather than living in a dream world.

    • marvin

      YOU THINK THAT OBAMA IS SO GREAT but you need to look at jimmy carter he started this home buying scam buy tell fanny and fred to give home loans to people that could not pay for them aka obama so less take from the evil people with money and give it to them that did not earn it and you that will bow down to[VOTE]for me i will see that you are taken care of for life all for free ,free,free,thank obama all mighty we will all be free ,to let the goverment run are life no more worry no more medical bills no more house payments no more car payments Thank OBAMA ALL MIGHTY we are free at last ,,but here in the real world obama is just a left wing power grabber like all with the GOD complex

    • crista smith

      Anyone who feels the way you do about the people you mentioned needs to be physcoanalyzed(?).

    • Alan

      Hannah, So you are a Hillary supporter. Then you are a socialist. Hillary is a progessive as she has stated she is a “modern progressive” in her campaign for president. Saying she is a “modern progressive” must be a way of softening the issue of being a progressive. To be a prgessive means to go against the American constitution. To be a socialized goverment means the goverment is in control of our rights as it is in control of all systems of business as we are seeing the Obama administration now taking over big business`s such as the car industry ,the banking industry,and now the financial reform will take over every aspect of fiancial control of our whole goverment system. So, doing all of this, our constitution is out the window and our rights as free Americans have gone with it. We will soon see a new world order and then we all will see another world event as we saw with Hitler with the mass muders and genocide. You are a complete fool to think for a second that socialism is a good thing. Socialism is control of the people. Our days are numbered and yours are too as we will all (world wide) have to be tortured and tormented. How do you think the Russian people have done under socialism or the Chineese or the people in S. America. Haven`t you seen the the crimes against humanity that those nations have committed against their own people? Millions upon millions have been murdered all because the goverment ruled them through sociaslism. But first they usually starved them and made them live in squaller. Did you not see the killings in Tiannamin square when the people revolted or just wanted to have a say? Socialism isn`t a kind way for humanities but, a cruel way for goverment control. You have been free all of your life. Now you will be puking in sorrow when you see the most simple freedoms taken from you.When you start to realize your doom. We are in the beginning of the end as you haven`t seen nuthin yet.

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