Meterorlady—I can remember as a senior in high school we had to pass a test on the Constitution before we could graduate plus all the other tests that were required.

You are correct – now I asked my 17 year old nephew if he had any of those classes or if he knew anything about the constitution and he said “no, we don’t learn about that”.

Meteorlady–I can believe you on this!! And sad to say, it is up to the teachers/school district to make sure the kids learn the Constitution. Heck, my kids learned about history and the Constitution in the Lutheran schools!! And the public schools did not have any requirements about learning the Constitution. Sad situation.

DaveH,
I agree with you 100% on this one, get rid of the most favored bidder list and open up to TRUE competition and you will cut cost for needed products and services in government by at least 33%. A little here and a liitle there adds up to a lot there and a lot here!!! This is the reason I want to see line item veto!!!

For anybody that wants to really learn the facts about Big Government’s effect on economies, look at this website:
http://www.heritage.org/index/Ranking.aspx

Click on individual countries for more info. You might want to ask yourself “why do countries like Hong Kong or Singapore get by with such low tax rates?”.

Dave, because everybody pays over there. While here only 1/3 of the corporations pay taxes. Too many loopholes for the majority.

You may just be the Queen of Made up Facts. “Everybody pays over there”. I guess they just don’t need government anymore because they are all so honest. I’m through wasting my time with your ignorant comments.

Eyes – what do corporations pay in Europe? You keep harping on taxes and how much the “rich” don’t pay. Some of the tax cuts implements by George Jr. did in fact help me – the marriage penalty for one saved us put me on equal footing with my husband and a single person filing, so it’s not just the rich that got a cut it was every single married couple in America.

And you got your facts from where???????

Meteorlady, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_rates_of_Europe

Please note that we do not pay a VAT in the US.
So, DaveH is wrong, we don’t pay the highest tax rate, just another fear tactic that he uses.

Eyes – you might want to read this one. Seems they are now considering one in this country.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/26/AR2009052602909.html

Meteorlady, so can you ever admit that I was right and Dave was wrong? He made a statement and I was able to refute it, we don’t have a VAT and our taxes are not the highest. I admit when I am wrong, which is frequently, however I don’t see anyone else on this site, ever say oops, made a mistake, when someone proves they are wrong. Must be some Conservative thing.

Eyes, from what I can tell, Value Added Tax vs Sales Tax – a tax is a tax – I like this description – about it being basically a hidden sales tax – and the last last line -
“Value-added tax (VAT) levy imposed on business at all levels of the manufacture and production of a good or service and based on the increase in price, or value, provided by each level. Because the consumer ultimately pays a higher price for the taxed commodity, a VAT is essentially a hidden sales tax. Originally introduced in France (1954), it is now a major part of the tax structure of most Western European nations. In the early 1990s the U.S. government considered instituting a VAT to fund national health care programs.”

So true. There are subversive Big Government Lovers everywhere. We need to be extra vigilant.

Nowadays we have the Fox News network. I’m sure if he runs, they will give him the time of day.

It remains to be seen. I certainly hope the TV channels will give him the recognition he deserves if he decides to run.

Claire,
I’m pretty sure Fox will as they were the one that gave Hunter coverage. It didn’t help, but they did. the alphabets now, NEVER!!!

Maybe it’s time that we all DEMAND that each candidate be given equal time on all the networks. It’s only fair and equitable. Of course, that will certainly ruffle the feathers of the execs that run the mainstream media.

meteor,
And the alphabets will tell you fine when they can pay what the populars do then we will give them equal time. I still remember the old guy that played Walkers friend that owned the bar and grill had to leave because in realo life he was running for some office and they were worried that they would have to give his opponent equal time!!!

I know – it’s sad that it has come down to who has raised the most money. Maybe we can limit campaign spending? WOW would that put a ringer in the two parties plans.

Claire,
I’ve done that most of my life. It really irritates me that the low-lifes, most of whom are much healthier than me, can convince themselves that it’s okay to steal my money through Government.

DaveH–I know exactly what you mean. A couple I know played the government for every cent they could get. The guy claimed disability with a bad back and yet he bowled on a team. They filed bankruptcy twice and kept their house. They leeched from the government every which way, and came out smelling like a rose. And the government never caught on to their shenanigans. They used to brag about it to everyone they knew. It was like the world owed them. They went to the river boat every Saturday night and went to church every Sunday. It is none of my business how people live their lives, but when it comes to people like this, it makes me angry because I am supporting their sorry butts as well as myself.

It happens because even though people know what people like them are doing, they do not report them.

American Citizen–they were reported, but nothing was done about it. A bunch of us reported the facts, and we were treated like we were the nutjobs. We were told it was “none of our business” that the state of Illinois KNEW what they were doing and “procedures” were carried out properly.

dAVEh, But it is ok, for you to steal my money by not having insurance, when you have bad health? I really don’t want to pay an extra thousand dollars a year in premiums to cover people like you. You are stealing my money, so how about not critizing others doing the same?

How am I stealing your money, Harpy? I have in no way solicited you or anybody else’s money for my healthcare.

This folks, is how the Socialists like EyesWideShut work. First they institute give-away programs, like healthcare, taking the money from hard-working, responsible citizens. Then they use those programs as an excuse to take away our freedom. If we are foolish enough to let these thieves pass the Healthcare Bill, they will soon be telling us what to eat, how to exercise, and what activities we are allowed to participate in.

And also notice, folks, how these Liberals, like Eyes, espouse their compassion for their fellow man, but then turn around and attack somebody like me for my accidental health problems. Because, the truth is, they have no compassion. They just want to control other peoples’ money and decisions.

Another thing, Ignorant Eyes, how would I affect your insurance rates? I’m not covered by your insurance company. They don’t pay my bills. Unless, of course, you thieving Liberals get a bill passed that they have to pay for people that aren’t even policyholders.

Get your shots, EyesWideShut, before you bite somebody.

And if you ignorant Liberals get the Healthcare Bill passed, the rest of the citizens can thank you and your cohorts for forcing them to pay for my health problems.

By the way, thanks for your “compassion”, you lying Liberal.

DaveH. every time you and people like you go to the emergecy room or get admitted to the hospital who don’t have insurance, someone covers that cost. Hospitals raise their rates to cover the uninsured and it is passed on to those of us who have insurance. GAO recently stated that it costs the insured an additional thousand dollars a year in premiums. Are you going to argue with the GAO? Your actions are just like the illegals who aren’t covered.

Eyes blinded by the truth!
There are an estimated 15 to 20 million ILLEGAL ALIENS in the U.S. that are getting FREE MEDICAL CARE every time they go to the hospitals, or clinics. MEXICANS WHO ARE NOT CITIZENS, & WHO HAVE NEVER CONTRIBUTED ANYTHING TO THE U.S. ECONOMY. I think you can give Dave H. a pass on this one. He is only 1/20000000 of the equation! Do you see how ignorant your complaint is????? No, I didn’t think so. Anything for an argument from the loony left…………….

eyessolderedshut,
Can you prove that DaveH doesn’t pay cash or make payments to pay off his visits if he goes??? No you can’t so like I told you your arguement hasn’t a leg to stand on nor a brain to take it back!!!!

Eyes – I disagree. People at least have a right not to purchase insurance if they can or can’t afford it. While it does add to the cost of medical treatment if they do not pay their bills, they will also find themselves hounded by collection agencies and eventually may even have to declare bankruptcy. Now if you add all the people onto the roles for Medicaid you can see what happens. Our taxes go up to support a badly run program and we get waste and fraud. That is much more than DaveH would cost us if he didn’t pay his hospital bill. Illegals and immigrants cost us more than the DaveH’s ever have or will so you need to open those baby blues and really check out the costs and where they come from.

Stephen – there are a lot more than 15 to 20 million – there are more like 34 million! We also have been letting people immigrate to this country who go straight to the social services system and start taking our money. These “immigrants” also act as their own bankers so they do not show an income and do not pay taxes in this country. So, if we change our immigration laws to only admit people that can afford to support themselves and actually are honest and hard working, we might be able to get out of this crap we are in right now. Heck, way back Eisenhower deported 8 million in order to free up jobs for Americans. In the 1980′s we gave amnesty to some 8 to 11 million and we didn’t even check them out because we didn’t have the manpower to process that many. Most had forged paperwork in order to comply with the terms of the amnesty. 10 years later those 8 to 11 million blossomed into 15 million when they brought their families here. 10 years later some 75% were still on public assistance and either not working or working in low paying jobs. If we deported the ones that are here now, we could free up around 15 million jobs and believe me, the people that have had their unemployment benefits run out would gladly take those jobs – brick laying, tiling, roofing, framing, even working on farms and picking apples.

Meteorlady, I know you like Dave, however, he can’t be accusing others of stealing other peoples money, while he is stealing money from those who have insurance, thus underwritting him when he or his wife end up in hospital. There are 30 million who don’t have insurance, most of those thirty million don’t have $50,000 just sitting around to pay if they get hurt or sick and have to spend 4 days in the hospital. Why is it that you defend him, stating that his cost is small? He is part of the 30 million, that costs all of us. It would be different if it was just Dave who didn’t have insurance but it isn’t. Just because you like someone doesn’t mean he is doing the responsible thing. If I had stated that I didn’t have insurance, you people would have been all over me, saying I was stealing your money. Little hypocritical don’t you think? He is the reason they are trying to force people into a program.

eyes, I do get confused by your DaveH healthcare debate. If Dave pays for the health services he uses – what does it cost us? Granted, there are those that don’t pay, but what makes you think Dave doesn’t pay his bills – sounds like he’s got things under control in the money department? Insurance, as a rule – unless you work for some parts of the government – does not pay all your health bills, leaving people to pay for them (or not pay the balances due) – so to me, your argument against Dave H just makes no sense?

For anybody who really wants to learn about the Great Depression:
http://mises.org/store/Americas-Great-Depression-P63.aspx

Daveh, why is it you can never give any references other than the Cato Inst.? You slam others for using what you consider liberal sites, but you only use the Libertarian sites, of Cato and Mises. It was interesting reading about the Koch family, they fund everybody that you reference, no wonder you are so pro-corporation. These people have enough bucks to buy the whole congress and anything else/or anybody else. Much bigger than George Soros. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Koch_family%27s_charitable_foundations

I meant to say “written in 1934″.

I wish everyone would get off about Ron Paul’s image. It seems like people still prefer style over substance. The man has courage and integrity to speak the truth. His anti- big government and anti-war message stands out from the rest of the contemptible members of DC, who speak only in meaningless catch-phrases.

Everyone gets all embarrassed that he’s too old, his speaking style is not slick and smooth like a car salesman, that he does not play political games to win allies. We have been duped for years by politicians who have done all those things, and were has it got us?

Does truth have to come in a pretty package, in order for us to be saved by it? Doesn’t anyone realize that Ron Paul is not about saving us, but him giving us the ideas to do it ourselves? That’s why he is so ambivalent about running for President. He knows as one man he cannot effect the changes—It’s all about citizens demanding change.

So stop complaining about his lack of style. Listen to his message, and run with it. Get out of the horse race mentality between parties.
It’s not about who wins the election, it’s who that wins the hearts and minds with the truth.

Will said Ron.

We have to dress anyone we want to win up. How do you think Obama won – of course with his slick tongue – we have to get the message out in TV land on all channels – so the idiots that vote party only will hopefully get the message – if they don’t we again are doomed because “The Democratic party is for the working man – The republicans are for the rich” attitude. They vote for whoever is going to give them the most period paragraph and when that one gets into office and they don’t get their pockets lined, when the election comes up again, they do the same thing all over especially if they are born again democrats. They ARE NOT educated enough nor do they want to know what is really happening. Your average democratic voter (now I’m saying averabe)profile is a factory worker usually under a Union that tells them what and how to do anything, goes to work for someone else, comes home, drinks beer and watches TV, goes to bed, gets up and goes to work. Whereas, most small business owners who have to meet payroll and sell their services are most Republicans – and as Dave H above pointed out in articles the super super wealthy are Democrats. We have to play to the workers of America to change and vote Republican. Too bad we cannot change the name of the Democratic Party to Socialist Party which it is – then they would loose those votes because Socialism is a dirty word that the low levrls understand.

I believe the Repubs fit right in the same category as the Dems. Neither party is without corruption.

Ron, the largest private corporation in America makes 90billion a year, it is Koch Industries who is Republican/Libertarian owned. Look it up. They started the Cato Institute, Americans for Prosperity, John Birch Society. You need to do some research before making such a generalized statement about the Dems. corporations having all the money. Libertarians aren’t doing too bad having such a rich corporation backing them. Probably why DaveH, is so pro-corporation, and anti working class.

Eyes: Once again you quote something that is wrong.
Here’s a list of the top 100 corporations and I don’t see yours.

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/global500/2008/full_list/

Well largest privately held corporation is Cargill. Koch is second and it’s founder Koch actually did help start the John Birch Society. What’s wrong with that? It’s an organization with many of the same view that are advocated by the Constitutional Party and the Libertarian party. They oppose redistribution of wealth and smaller federal government among other things so they can’t be all bad.

Meteorlady, I know you are a seeker of knowledge, please do some research into the John Birch Society prior to just thinking that they are some wholesome organization. http://sites.google.com/site/ernie124102/vonbrunn

Do you honestly think that a company making 90-100billion dollars should be exempt from paying taxes?

When you said I was wrong, did you mean because I was using 2008 info about the Koch Industries and they are now rated #2? Or was there something else? I am sorry, that I used 2008 info, don’t like to use 2009 as it is still being compiled.

Ron–Agreed.

Ron,
I love your comment and your passion.

You’re right, we need to elect people that can get our country back to Freedom. They don’t have to be fast-paced, smooth-talking leaders, in order to butt out of our personal choices and personal responsibility.
Anyway, I Hope that I can be as “slow” as Ron Paul when I get to be 70.

Ron,
I have no problem what so ever with his age, I voted for Reagan, twice!! I also have no problem with his appearance, I also voted twice for Bush!!!

I agree. Never before have there been so many disgruntled people from both parties. I am not a Republican anymore. I have not changed, the party has. I know of many more tea party people who feel the same way which includes those who used to be Democrat. Both sides have lost support. To return to these parties is like returning to an adulterous spouse, no guarantee they will reform.

There are many more Independents now because they cannot identify with either party which really opens things up. Anything is possible. Do not blame the voter but the politicians. At least Ron Paul would correct some very serious problems, the first being our money system. How could he be worse than what we have? The CONTROL GRAB that is going on now is extremely scary!

Educating the voters is a big key and many do not realize what is going on with our money system and just how corrupt politicians have become. With the capacity we have to communicate to the masses, there is no reason millions should be ruled by a corrupt few. Please wake up or we all go down together!

I think it’s more important to vote for conservatives to serve in Congress. That’s where the real power lies.

Frank,
Remember, if a progressive gets to run on the republican ticket and wins, don’t gripe!!! the only way you have a right to gripe on who wins that primary is to vote in it!!! If you are no longer a registered republican, no vote!!!

Meteorlady,
I will ask you one question. would you rather see this country be ruined beyond any possibility of repair rather than vote for someone that has a chance to win and at least stall that destruction??? From what I have seen of your posts, I would not guess that, so please don’t say I am brainwashed. I have been very civil with you!

Sorry JoeH. I have a strong opinion about voting for the person that I think will best represent me and my views. If that means voting for a third party candidate or an independent that’s what I do. When I was in Washington State a few Libertarian candidates actually got elected when the news media told us all we were “splitting our votes” so it does work sometimes. If enough people leave the two parties and don’t contribute any more money to them, a third party or independent could actually get somewhere.

Meteorlady, since the Conservatives and Libertarians don’t really agree on anything except fiscal spending, how do you think those two camps will be able to merge into a third party? I can’t see the Conservatives allowing Libertarians freedom to do what they want with their bodies, or allowing gays, to just be gays, and the religion thing undoubtedly be a sore spot. Just wondering how you think they can merge?? Thx.

I certainly agree with you about Ron Paul and his capabilities not being hindered by age. He is still the same Ron Paul I have known since 1976 and I have no problem with his age. But others might, unfortunately. I hate to burst your bubble, but I also knew Ronald Reagan before he was President. A wonderful man with a good Americanist philosophy and traditional values. But, by 1979 he was clearly showing signs of mental fraility and naivite to those of us who knew him personally. There was, unfortunately, some truth to the citicism of his mental difficulties which clearly minifested themselves after he left th Presidency. For just one example, he promised me that he would abolish OSHA, DOE, and EPA. But when his aides discovered what our topics of conversation were, he was permanently shielded from me, and I never spoke with him again after July 1980. His CFR neocon advisors controlled him far too much. He had lost his independent thinking, and unfortunatley he helped the conspirators expand the fedgov. This would not happen with Ron Paul.

I willl tell you the same thing that SC said to me the other day when he thought mistakenly that I had insulted R. Paul. You sir demean a man whose shoes you are not fit to shine!!! Sorry, but I will not allow you to go unanswered!!!

Joe, where did he demean him? I don’t find it. If you mean about Ronald Reagan, that tends to happen to a lot of old people. That’s why I voted for Sarah Palin instead of John McCain. How do I know this? I’m in my 70′s myself and know many people the same age as I am. Our favorite topic of conversation when we see one another is our health problems. The office of Presidency is the most rigorous office there is. If you’re observant, you’ll notice how fast whoever is in office ages.

American citizen–You are correct. Look how quickly Clinton’s hair turned white. And the last time I saw Obama on TV it looks like he is getting grey. And yes, the job of being President has to be nervewracking, a lot of stress. I would probably be worked up all the time if I were President. It does not matter who is President, it is a thankless job.

American Citizen,
I do not and will not believe his statement that Reagan personally promised him a thing until I see proof!!! I was born at night but not last night!!!

American Citizen – my husband is 67 and I’m 65. We distance ride on our motorcycles, play tennis, work out three times a week and play golf at least 3 times a week. 3 years ago we rode our motorcycles to Alaska from Utah. I think we are not brainless and old, though we may look older, and I certainly have more to talk about than my health. So Ron Paul is in pretty darn good shape.

Meteorlady, You stated every thing that I believe. Thank you, as it was very well stated.

We were taken off the gold standard so the Federal Reserve could print money at will and try and control the economic conditions in this country and even perhaps the world. If the money is backed by gold, it’s only worth what the gold is worth. Are we even sure that the US still has gold? When was the last time anyone actually went to the vaults and showed it?

American, Nixon took us off the Bretton Woods system in 1971 and no major economies have used a gold standard since that time. This link will give you explaination. http://economics.about.com/cs/money/a/gold_standard.htm

Still, Social Security was a Ponzi Scheme from the beginning. It is not a viable system and never was – it doesn’t matter if someone stole the money – all they did was hasten the inevitable.

Secondly, it is Not Constitutional.

SS was not a ponzi scheme. It was supported through taxes on working people. When I was in college it was projected that SS would last and have a surplus for 100 years or more. When the government saw all that money, they just started robbing the fund for non SS things, then they added more people to the roles by changing the rules in the middle of the game. So, it is not a ponzi scheme its out and out theft by our government.

Meteorlady–You are 100% correct.

Meteor,
And if you are like me and my wife, you have been paying into it for many years, and now when I’m getting close to the age to collect it won’t be there. I will be 65 in just over 5 years and the age I can collect is 65. My wife is three years younger and she has to wait for 67. It won’t be there for either of us as far as I can see!!!

JoeH: Perhaps we should sue the Federal Government for stealing our money and ask for it all back. I think we are entitled since we did pay into it for years and years and years.

So, you seem to have demonstrated the that “optimal” maximum and minimum income tax rates are less than 73% – 25% and 25% – 1%, respectively. Given that currently we have an actual NEGATIVE lowest rate (if one is eligible for earned income tax credits) and about 34% on taxable income in excess of $171,000, seem very likely that we’re pretty near the “sweet spot” of the Laffer curve. In other words, what are you complaining about?

As for inflation, your fears are irrational because there is so much slack capacity in the economy, between unemployed people, unused manufacturing facilities, unoccupied office space, etc., that it will be a long time before price inflation is really sustainable. To drive inflation, you have to have lots of money out in the market trying to buy things… deleveraging of debt is going to mean all the extra money is going to get soaked up by debt payments, leaving all that slack capacity due to lack of demand.

Make no mistake, we’ve dug ourselves quite a hole, and what’s going to keep us in it is the refusal of many interest groups to cooperate if it means they might have to compromise an iota of their advantaged positions.

sorry, should’ve been “less than 73% – 25% and MORE THAN 25% – 1%, respectively”.

Taxation has been the ruin of every great nation stating with the roman empire. There is no reason what so ever for tax rates of 35 or 25 or even 15 percent. God gets by on 10%, our government has a less important job to do than God. Even if they do act like they think they are God. 9% FLAT RATE ACROSS THE BOARD IS ALL THEY SHOULD BE ALLOWED. PERIOD. If there is a need locally, let the local people take care of it. I don’t like what it will mean but we do need to return to the Gold Standard. I am not a Ron Paul fan, I guess I really do not know much about him, I still see his signs up around the country. But I would rather have Ron Paul than A MARXIST, ALINSKY FOLLOWING, AMERICA HATING, MUSLIM LIKE WE HAVE NOW.

Joseph, have you looked at the tax rates for Europe? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_rates_of Europe
Every civilized has taxes. The US taxes are not that bad. Presently the corporations are making out like bandits due to Bush’s tax cuts, lowest since 1933.

Our Corporate tax rates are among the highest in the world:
http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/June2007/26/c8904.html

But don’t let Liberals like EyesWideShut convince you to get on the Envy train. Where the Government gets its money doesn’t really matter. It comes from all of us one way or the other, through higher prices, or lost jobs, or scarcity of goods. When Liberals rant about the Big Bad Corporations or the Rich not paying their fair share, they are just trying to get support for more theft by the Government. The Government then wastes that money on useless pursuits or supporting those who refuse to support themselves.

No Doubt EyesWideShut is a Government Employee who likes her $70,000/year (average) job.

DaveH, your Canadian article is wrong, we don’t pay 40%. We also don’t pay an Value Added Tax, while the remainder of the industrialized countries in the world has a Value Added Tax, typically ranging from 15 to 25%. You are not acknowledging that 2/3 of the domestic and foreign corporations thru use of loopholes pay no federal taxes at all, according to the GAO, in Aug,2008. Sorry to bust your bubble but facts are facts, and since 2/3 aren’t paying, we have a loss of revenue. http://money.cnn.com/2008/08/12/news/economy/corporate_taxes/

Dave, nope, I own a small business, so I know how the larger corporations are screwing the rest of us by avoiding the same taxes that I pay. Do you think it is fair that 2/3 of the corporations pay no taxes?

Sorry to burst your bubble, Ignorant Eyes, but Corporations don’t pay taxes, people do. Corporations are just groups of people. Government just finds them an easy mark to be a scapegoat for more tax extractions. It’s not hard for government to play on your jealousy to get you to support more of their theft. Get some morality EyesWideShut.
And you don’t know what each country pays in various taxes. Neither do I. The difference between you and I is that I don’t pretend to know every detail about every country. And what difference would it make anyway what other countries do? Only Ignorant Liberals want to imitate the folly of other countries.
Unlike you, I don’t sink to the lowest common denominator. I strive for betterment.

Another thing, Ignorant Eyes, I read your article, and it simply stated there was no income reported from those companies. It’s called an “Income Tax” for a reason. No Income, No Tax.
Most so-called tax loop-holes (a favorite Liberal word) are nothing more than tax deferrals to a future date.
And you’re one of the Ignorant Liberals that supports the politicians that create the ridiculously complex US tax code, so don’t complain to me about the companies that use the rules to their advantage.

DaveH. it is very apparent that you are pro-corporation, however you are anti-American, as you require individuals to only work in those professions or jobs that you deem to be acceptable. If you are a policeman, fireman, teacher,military, coalminer, government worker or belong to a union, you treat them like they are illegals robbing the country. I have asked you many times which jobs are acceptable to you, with no response. These corporations who pay no taxes are your heros. You want exceptions made for them, while railing at the people who are employed but are in the wrong types of jobs according to Dave. You have such a biased pro corporation attitude, that it is obvious you don’t want any rules or regulations for those corps, but the middle class worker must only work in the “correct” profession to get your respect. I respect anyone who has a job, regardless of the type. You wouldn’t even agree to a flat or fair tax, as that would mean your buddies, the corporations, would have to pay.

DaveH, if you don’t pretend to know what other countries pay, why were you making statements that we pay the highest taxes? You just contradict your own statement. We don’t pay the highest and you can never admit when you mis-speak.

The N. Koreans and Iranians ARE FAR, FAR LESS of a threat than the Soviets were… neither has nearly the technology, firepower or manpower that the Soviets did. In both cases, they may have truly hostile intent, but they are mostly bark and little bite. We already have many times enough weapons and manpower to take out either one of them… the problem, as with Iraq, is that it would be a very expensive victory as we try to clean up the aftermath and rebuild their societies.

BD,
Have you heard nothing of the news lately??? The Former Soviets are in talks about arms deals with Iran as Russia needs MONEY, TOO! What arms pull down more cash??? NUKES, RUSSIAN NUKES!! THERE’S your technology! All it takes is three or four nukes to get through our defenses and we got a problem. We go from defending against an attack to blowing Iran out of the desert and one never knows what the inscrutable Chinese will do after that!! With early defense capability in between us and them, we have a better chance of knocking down what ever they throw at us! don’t ever make the mistake of comparing the Iranians to the Russians. We were worried that they might launch and they were very glad we were! the Iranians aren’t worried about anything except meeting their virgins!!! BIG DIFFERENCE!!!

Why would Iran want to attack us???

Maybe it’s because we embargo their country, installed an unelected regime,
assassinated their leaders, and provided weapons to their neighbors?

If we would leave them alone they would leave us alone.

But they have done NOTHING to us, so this is all irrelevant.

Even if they did want to declare war on us, it wouldn’t be a contest an they know it.

Your fear mongering scenario is baseless.

Reason,
Your understanding of Iran appears a bit naive. You should search Ahmadinejad and the 12th Imam to learn what the leadership of Iran is willing to do, to bring about Armagedon.

Reason,
The LEADERSHIP of Iran are all finatics!!!! All of them! they believe that their religeon orders them to SLAY the INFIDELS!!!! Guess who the infidells are! Anyone not true Muslim in their idea of it!! If they thought they could kill about fifteen million American people at once they wouldn’t hesitate a bit!!!

The problem is, the Muslims are emigrating into almost every country. We may have to fight them on our own soil some day. The world is getting scarier every day.

Reason, don’t forget that the Iranians watched us attack and totally destroy Iraq, who was not guilty of attacking us. Think I would be a little nervous considering how we have treated Iran during the past 50 years. We can’t seem to decide if we like them or not. But we sure do interfere frequently.

America should take care of herself first and foremost. We should simply close our borders, no more illegals, the illegals should be rounded up and sent back to their own country, and no more immigration. I believe our population is humongous now. Why do we need more? We should strengthen our military might, and keep our nose out of the other countries, but continue to keep a close watchful eye on the “enemies.” The radical groups within the United States bear watching also. Sure, America is the land of the free, but these groups can/may be dangerous to America. And we all know who these groups are. We should grow all of our own food (I am fearful of food coming from other countries), get our farmers back to farming, open up our oil fields, and use our own resources, of which I believe we have plenty. We simply replace and maintain what we use, like trees, environment, etc. Trade agreements? They are highly unfair. If we do have trade agreements, then we should export the same amount that we import. We should come up with incentives for our businesses to stay in America and not go to foreign countries. The greed and corruption must be stopped. Any politician that is found to be guilty of unethical/criminal conduct must be removed from their position immediately. If the average American is found guilty of a crime and sentenced, then a politician should not get by with the crimes they commit. No more double standard. I could write a book, but I think everyone knows what I am talking about, and some may not agree with me and I understand that. These are my thoughts, and America needs a good housecleaning. I use the word “we” a lot, but you know what I am referring to.

Claire, this is something, I thought you would find interesting. http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=29634

eyesstapledshut,
Oh, yeah the next time I see an Iranian I’ll follow Obummers way and appologize to him/her for attacking Iraq and setting them free from one of the most bloody despots in their lives!!! Also if you have been paying attention to ANY news at all, you will see that even the Iranian people are worried about their leadership!!! pull out the staples eyes and open them!!!

JoeH, we didn’t go to Iraq with the intent on freeing the people. We went there to finish what Big Daddy Bush wasn’t allowed to do. Kill Sadamn. Cheney and Bush jr. wanted to finish the job that the UN wouldn’t let us do, during Gulf War.

Hi Brian–Yes, looks seem to count more than character in some cases. Media/magazines/society have always placed value on good looks. But a person cannot always judge a book by its cover, goodlooking or not. If a company folds, then so be it. I do not want a business/factory, etc. to fail but this is the nature of the beast. Bailouts? No, sink or swim is the theory. If a company/business fails, then perhaps the people in charge did not do their job or they did not provide a commodity that was useful, practical, or in demand. America does not need all this intervention that is going on.

I don’t know “Yours Truly”, but I do know that Ron Paul has a nearly 100 percent record of voting for or against bills based on the US Constitution. No one else in DC comes close.

Joe,
Can’t you see that yours truly does not know what a constitution means.

It may be that some of you don’t know what a constitution is? Where does the Constitution authorize a Federal Reserve? What about taxation, and is an income tax constitutional. How about a war that is waged without a declaration of war? It sounds to me that Ron Paul has read the Constitution and some of you, and our politicians have not.

I agree, Perfect Match.

Ron Paul for Prez and Rand Paul for VP.

Claire,
I just can’t get my mind around the father/son team. It would be too much like a royal family!!! I don’t mean to demean either one, it just doesn’t set right.

JoeH–Okay then. Ron Paul for Prez and Hunter for VP. Either one of these two guys would certainly be a good choice. Bachmann?? Good grief.

Claire,
Yeah, I could wrap my vote around that, but the main problem with that is Hunter is a repub and Paul isn’t. One would have to change and that would put people on edge because of Spector and with good reason!!!!

Joe H – In case you missed the Republican debates for their presidential nomination, Ron Paul was there and participating.

JoeH–I know. I’ m just being silly, I guess. But it sure would be nice.

Meteor,
yeah and if he gets the nod I would vote in the general for him in a heartbeat!!! especially if he took Hunter as his running mate!!!!

Michelle Bachman, the Neocon warmonger? Really bad match. Ron Paul is against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. How many Democrats or Republicans have the guts to say they are anti-war (tantamount to being anti-government and a potential domestic terrorist)?