“These guns laws aren’t for our safety, it is for theirs”.
So true J.D.
and Amen.

A BIG FRICKIN AMEN J.D.
Very well put. All conservatives see it as you do, and the liberal socialists do also. The libs know the truth, they just won’t ever admit it. The libs just don’t know “that we know” what their true plan is, so they try and pretend it’s about crime control, in the hopes that they can sway the “uninformed” who have never thought about the issue “clearly” and with the “big picture” in mind. You/we will never sway the lib socialists from their agenda. The libs already know the score. We can only hope to inform, and convince the uninformed people who have no idea what is going on. Some of the uninformed actually think that gun control might work, or even does work, because they have never done any research, don’t know that the liberals are lying to them, or have ever been close enough to the issue to even care. They also don’t understand the difference between sovereignty, and a one world order. They have never read the Constitution, and they don’t know why the second amendment is there.

Good ole California Assembly Member DeLeon just pushed through a handgun amm registration bill AB962 which forces sellers to fingerprint and keep records of every handgun ammunition deal they make. They also have to store their ammo away from public access and the law will not allow Californians to purchase ammo online.

Hi Jerry, I’m with you. It’s not in my budget. The the ammo cost. Maybe if I stuck with 22′s.

Now , that is a common sense remark, that would take a lot of money. I have been having a problem finding ammo and or reloading components. These bunch of marksists in Washington will make the ammo imposabile to get and render the gun inoperable. They will let you buy a car and remove the steering wheel. I hope we can get rid of this bunch before they make us prisoners. Thanks Jerry.

And of course you’ve noticed that the highest crime rates are in “gun ban” cities. Which makes sense right away as criminals are able to select victims with impunity.

I salute Switzerland!!!
They have a law in Switzerland that requires all citizens to own a handgun Or weapon. Crime rate almost non-existent!

And they also have greater government control…you get the picture?
It isn’t about public safety….at all!

Thanks for mentioning the OATHKEEPERS.ORG. They are one of the few organizations in our country that can still be relied on to actually defend the Constitution. God Bless them and their integrity.

Barb, God forbid should it come to that, but it is better to be prepared than not for any disaster, man made or natural.

Aren’t you usually on your knees praying?

Amen

I’m only theorizing here, but I’d guess that since many liberals live in cities, they generally don’t hunt and about the only time they see or hear any thing related to guns is in relation to crimes committed. Conservatives, on the other hand, often live in more rural areas where hunting is an acceptable practice. Also, I’m pretty sure that many more conservatives serve in the military than liberals so this is another place they get exposed to the use of weapons. I believe these are some of the reasons conservatives have a better understanding how weapons properly used can actually bring good things to life instead of just violent crime.

Tim, The idea is Criminals are not allowed to have guns.
What differance will it make if you buy two hand gun’s per month, if your a collector thats not out of line, most will sit in a display case and never will be used.

Who are you to tell them they can’t own two, ten or even 100 hand guns. After all they have paid for them and 99.99% will never even be used.

I think every person in the United States should be trained to not only use a Gun as in all forms of guns, it should be a Law that everyone should own at least 2.
Then 99% of crime would come to a grinding halt.

Tim…You are such a fraud…You just posted that you were for “the right to bear arms”…just stop being such a poser.

Tim, obviously you do not know much about handguns because they ARE used for hunting and have been used to take some of the largest game animals in the world and also to protect oneself against some of the largest predators in the world. I have friends that have used handguns exclusively for hunting big game animals for most of their lives. As for the comment about needing to purchase more than one handgun a month, its our God given right to legally purchase what we want. Ted Kennedy’s car killed more people than my guns. Since vehicles kill lots more people every year than guns how about a limit on vehicle purchases. Watch the automotive industry tank on that law.

Tim, with all due respect, I really don’t know how it would affect you if everyone went out and bought 1000 hand guns and I know that if they do it will be legal. No one can buy a hand gun without proper background check and it should be that way.
I don’t know why you are against assualt weapons, I will assure you that criminals and illegals have them and they found them on the black market which cannot be controlled. Do you feel safe with all this weaponry around in the wrong hands and you are armed with only a pocket knife. Now how is weapon regulations going to make anyone safer against thugs.
I carry a weapon on my person at all times and I have a legal permit and I am no threat to anyone except to anyone that would do harm to me or my family.
Tim, wouldn’t it be wonderful if someone on the 911 aircraft had had a weapon, there would be 3000 people still with their families. Do we want to be as helpless as they were because of liberal ideas?

Tim,
Could you please give us your definition of what an “Assault Weapon” is? I’m betting you don’t have a clue. And please define “Sensible Gun-Control’. Vermont has only one gun law, Basically it’s that you can’t carry a firearm if you intend to commit a crime. Covers everything, and they had about four murders last year, while your gun-control meccas are drowning in blood.
The Second Amendment isn’t about hunting, so stop using the tired excuse that handguns aren’t for hunting, and besides they are also used for hunting.

Tim, What is dangerous about an assault rifles? The way it looks? that’s the only difference between them and the run of the mill semi automatic rifle. Assault weapon ban was a stupid attempt by anti gun nuts to protect society from something that didn’t exist.
Fully automatic rifles are already illegal, unless you have a special license to posses them.
The mass killings are not usually done with legal guns anyway. Criminals will always get the gun they need to carry out their dirty deeds, no matter what the laws are.

Even though we may not need more than one hand gun a month, why should the government be able to tell us we can’t buy all the hand guns we want?

I live in California and I also like to collect guns. I like to buy guns when I want to, not when the government tells me that I can!

I like most gun owners am a law abiding citizen that subscribes to gun safety and the laws that govern the state that I live in. I’ve owned guns for over 40 years and to this day I still take a variety of gun classes to enhance my gun handling skills.

The classes are taught by military, police officers, FBI and alike.
Everyone in the classes has a high degree of respect for gun safety and the law. It is the idiots that do not respect guns that give law abiding gun enthusiast a bad name. But irregardless there will always be idiots in any sport, hobby or recreation that give that pastime a bad reputation.

Should all pilots and aircraft enthusiasts be banned from flying airplanes because one idiot fly’s his plane into a Federal Building?

Tim, after reading your response and also reading all the responses given you, I’d read them all if I were you because they seem to have put more thought into this topic than you!

You’re a fool if you think the governement has ANY right to regulate arms. The constitution is clear “the right to keep and bear arms.” Live by the constitution or die a slow tryannical death by an out of control government.

Tim,
Where do you get your phony facts?
“They [assault weapons] have been linked to too many mass killings by crazies”
Do you just make these things up on the fly? Of course you do, you’re a Liberal!

http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcassaul.html

Tim;
assault weapons: a term coined by prez Clinton (tied for first place as the worst prez as far as his assault on the Constitution and the 2nd amendment)
Clinton used this a.w. term to try and scare the “uninformed” public into thinking semi-auto rifles, shotguns, and handguns are evil, when in fact it is the criminals who use weapons that are “evil” and should be CONTROLLED!
If our judicial system WOULD CONTROL CRIMINALS we wouldn’t have any need for any gun control would we Tim? At least that wouldn’t be a bonafide EXCUSE anymore. Judging from how well our government has done with criminal control, wouldn’t you have to assume that they would do just as well with gun control? (a rhetorical question Tim, no need to answer) There is no “sensible” gun control Tim. There IS sensible “criminal control”, but it is not what we have now.
Your analogy of regulating/registering cars so we must regulate guns too? That sounds EXACTLY like Al Gores speech to congress! ha ha ha.. Al Gore: another lying liberal socialist politician who made his money off the backs of innocent unaware citizens with his lies and corruption.
WAKE UP TIM! It’s not about gun control, it’s about controlling us, the free law abiding citizens, so they can ram their socialist one world order down our throats. Every single law controlling guns, no matter how insignificant it may seem to you, is just another foot in the door!

Tim;
These are all such good posts that there is nothing left for me to say. I only hope that you read them all and learn something here.
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Tagley says: Ted Kennedy’s car killed more people than my guns.

So True Tagley! The only case I know of where a drunk driver ever got off scot free after killing someone. No criminal charges for the elitist Mr. Kennedy for killing Mary Jo Kopechne. I think Kennedy paid off her parents since they didn’t pursue him in court for wrongful death. If he had accidentally shot her with a gun do you think he would have been charged? I think not.

There is no such thing as “sensible gun control”. Those are the exact same words used by anti-gun zealots. What is sensible and who is going to define it?

Tiny Tim, you are against everything that relates to anothers freedom. I enjoy my guns, they’re like Big Boys Toys. If I could afford to buy more than the one “new” handgun a month here in California I would, but I would rather purchase 10 used handguns in one month than be limited to just one new handgun.
It’s really funny to read your smack. In over 45 years of gun ownership, I’ve never pointed a gun at another person nor have I ever been close to thinking about commiting a crime let alone kill somene.
Can’t recall any of my huntin’ or shootin’ buddies doing any of that either. Because I choose to be safe and own guns, I get treated by my state and federal government as a possible criminal.
Well there is a new sheriff in town, known as the American citizens, or patriots that believe in the Bill of Rights and the Constitution.
Tiny Tim, your welcome to join this new and growing elite group of Americans.

You know, I don’t see why anyone would need to purchase more than one handgun a month either but you know what, I do not care how many you purchase in a month. You want one a day more power to you. Hunting handguns, I have two that I hunt with one for small game and one for deer. Bullets penetrating a law enforcement vest? Most if not all centerfire rifle bullets will penetrate a law enforcement vest. Sensible gun control, hit what you aim at is the best and only logical answer to that.

Tiny Tim, why would the anti-gun government allow the assault weapons ban to expire and not renew it? I’ll tell you why! The assault weapons ban had zero effect on gun related crimes. That is a big “0″.

Assault weapons are not the weapons of choice among drug dealers, gang members or criminals in general. Assault weapons are used in about one-fifth of one percent (.20%) of all violent crimes and about one percent in gun crimes.
http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcassaul.html

There is no such thing as “sensible” gun control. You don’t get it Tim, the only people being controlled are law abiding citizens…and they don’t need to be controlled. Maybe what you mean is you’d like to see fewer criminals with guns. No problem, we can help with this by giving law abiding citizensthe right to shoot these criminals when they break into a home. I’d give it about 6 months before criminals are either too fearful to carry on with their career or just choose a new career. But that doesn’t allow the government to have all the control that it wants so our gun rights are an eternal battle of the Government vs. We The People.

So you ARE for gun control. You can’t have it both ways. You can’t have a little of this and a little of that. There are copious amounts of laws that are already on the books. The criminals who ignore the law are not behind bars, where they should be. The government is more intent on going after you and me. Why? We pose a much greater threat to them then all of the criminals put together.

We don’t need any more laws. What difference does it make whether you’re allowed 1 gun a month or 101 guns a month? The GOVERNMENT worries about those people, you shouldn’t. That’s what all of this is all about. That’s what organizations like Gun Control Inc. is all about.

As Thomas Jefferson once said, “When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.”

And you can’t get rid of all of the crime by getting rid of all the guns. Have we learned nothing from Prohibition? Look at Great Britain. Since they banned private firearm ownership, knifings have risen almost 800 percent. How about Australia? Crime, in general, has risen over 700 percent. FBI statistics report that less than 1/10 of 1 percent of Concealed Weapons Permit holders is responsible for gun related crimes. Do you want to compare that to automobile related fatalities? Think about that next time you hand junior the key to your 3000 pound, 350 HP automobile.

Incidentally, the difference between an automobile and a firearm is simple. Ownership and usage of an automobile is a PRIVILAGE whereas self protection, by ANY means, is a GOD given right!

As Thomas Jefferson once said, “The God who gave us life, gave us liberty… at the same time.”

Why is it an “Assault” weapon? Let’s get it right once and for all. It’s a Military style/type weapon. Why do people like them? It’s simple. If my Remington 700 or 300 Weatherby takes a dip in the stream, it’s game over! The day is done. If my AR-15 or M-16 goes for the same dip in the stream, you shake it out, clear the chamber and keep on going. Military type weapons are tough, reliable, fast and accurate.

Why don’t the GOVERNMENT and/or police want the “WE THE PEOPLE” to own military type firearms? It’s simple. It levels the playing field. They don’t like that.

As George Washington once said, “”A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.”
Incidentally, people DO hunt with handguns. It’s actually a greater challenge. Unlike a rifle, you’ve got to get up close and personal with a handgun. That takes skill.

In closing, just remember what all of this gun control issue is really about. As Thomas Pain once said, “It is the duty of every patriot to protect his country, from its government.”

Laus Deo.

The point is that the government does not need to be telling any citizen how many guns they can buy. Goes to the premise of “tight to bear arms.” Is refreshing to see legislators actually doing what they are supposed to do, defend the constitution, state of federal. Wish this sentiment could spread to Washington, unfortunately, the only way that will happen is through elections, vote them out, Democrat or Republican.