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Joe Biden: Success In Iraq Is Obama Administration's Achievement

February 17, 2010 by  

Joe Biden: Success in Iraq is Obama administration's achievementOn the Larry King Live show last week, Vice President Joe Biden took credit for the success in Iraq, stating that the United States involvement in the war-torn country "could be one of the great achievements of [the Obama] administration."

The vice president’s statements have angered many Republicans who have pointed out that, as senators, Biden and Obama both opposed the surge in Iraq.

Biden also credited the current administration with the troop withdrawal process that is currently underway, an initiative that was actually negotiated in the Status of Forces Agreement before President Obama took office.

"The reduction in U.S. forces that is under way right now is…largely the continuation of the policy that President Bush had set in place when he negotiated the drawdown schedule with Prime Minister Maliki at the end of 2008," said Michael O’Hanlon of the Brookings Institution, quoted by Fox News.

When asked how the administration could take credit for an agreement that was signed before their tenure, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said that Obama’s political pressure, as a then-candidate, helped to implement the withdrawal accord.
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  • http://Steviejoe.wordpress.com Steve

    God save us (literally) from shallow thinkers like “Doc Sarvis” who can’t understand why we are currently in Afghanistan. It’s been a cesspool of terror activity which, by the way, hosted the groups that engineered and carried out the 9/11 attacks against the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Remember that dark September morning, Doc? This isn’t complicated, in fact, it’s so straightforward that the “we’re-smarter than-everyone-else” set, the “national-defense-ain’t-really-all-that-important” gaggle seem to keep missing it: you attack the United States, you die. That’s our government’s overriding RESPONSIBILITY. If it takes months, years or decades to address this outrage and ongoing threat properly, well, that’s a shame — but things are tough all over, aren’t they. Shrugging nationally at jihadist fulminations and walking away from what the Taliban and Al-Qaeda have brought on themselves would, in the long run, be the worst thing we could do. Every brave man or woman who has paid the ultimate price tearing into the Islamo-fascists and their abbettors has given his/her life in a noble cause. We spit on their memories if we listen to the short-sighted but trendy nostrums of the likes of Doc Sarvis.

  • Downsized

    Joe Biden is an idiot,I said that when Obama named him his vp.Obama needed a token white guy in his entourage.I agree with you Rocketman to a point about Iraq and Afganastan. But ,I also believe that if this administration had been in power during 9/11 we would probably still be “negotiating” with Afganastan for them to turn over Binladen.

    • http://Don'thaveone Sally

      I really don’t think so, I think we would be speaking Farsi now.

  • Rocketman

    What can be said about this current administration. It is scarey. Bush responded to 911. Left wing argument about Iraq is a laugh as they were the largest dictatorship in the middle east. Chemical warfare, murder and support of Osama. How about Desert Storm? Remember Sadam’s wife telling the story of her husband giving Osama money when they met at Sadam’s house. Blame whoever you want but all this whould have happened anyway after 911. It started long before that. I hope Americans are aware of the danger we face in the coming years. Nice self credit Joe but that war was over for a long time before your administration had any military influence. What are you going to do about Iran? Keep sending love notes.

    • Doc Sarvis

      I think you are another one who is being scared by conservative talk. Conservatives get frightened so easily. Anyway, Bush did not respond to 9/11, he used it and other lies to invade a country that had little if anything to do with terrorism. He diverted resources from the real fight and ended up making a larger terrorist threat than existed in the first place. Not to mention the warnings of the 9/11 attack that he ignored.

      • Ken

        Doc, I am really amazed at your extensive knowledge, I am going to take a second look at the conservatives as it seems you really have it together. I am sure that you have did extensive research, been there , done that. I really think that you would make a great Zar.

      • Doc Sarvis

        Thanks, I’m not interested in being Czar. I’m an American.

      • Stephaan

        Ken,
        The only “extensive” research the Doc has done recently was a search on the internet to find out the significance of leaving a pair of forceps, 3 sponges, and an empty vodka bottle in his last patient… ie: don’t expect a lot of “political” knowledge from him. ;-)

      • Doc Sarvis

        Pretty significant it turns out.

      • http://www.NRA.com Stephaan

        Yes Doc, significant, but the rattling and clanking is hardly perceptible when the sponges occasionally get stuck between the forceps and the vodka bottle. Joe Biden would write the incident off as a win/win and claim it as an “achievement” for the Osama administration! ;-)

      • JeffH

        Hey, whats up Doc Sarvis. Can you give us a little perspective on Adolph Hitler while you’re displaying your patriotism?

      • Doc Sarvis

        Adolf Hitler was a horrible man. Hope that helps you.

      • Michael J.

        Whatzup Doc,
        I’m a conservative and the only thing that frightens me is that people like yourself actualy beleive the things that you post. Countless generations of American Patriots have given their lives for your right to express your opinion. Those same Americans would respect your God given, unalienable right to be wrong also. Myself being a Christian, whenever I find my sense of patriotism being demoralized by others, tend to turn the other cheek and proclaim, “God bless that S.O.B.”.

      • Doc Sarvis

        I too, often give thanks for our military past and present. And I think it is a disgrace to them and to America to throw them into a fabricated war.

      • Michael J.

        Doc Sarvis,
        Is there any cause worth fighting for? Would you have us disban the military and bow to the mercy of our enemies in the the hopes that they will see fit to spare us? Maybe you would have us adopt the French appeasement policy of lining their streets with oak trees so that invading armies can march in the shade? Maybe you think we should follow Neville Chamberlain’s moves prior to WWII?

        Disgusting, if the war to liberate Iraq and remove Hussein and the threat of WMD and terrorist training camps was not worth fighting, then none are.

      • Doc Sarvis

        Iraq was not our enemy. There were no WMDs, no terrorist training camps. Saddam H. was a very bad man, but we ended up killing more of his people than he did in our invasion/war.

      • JeffH

        George E says:
        February 17, 2010 at 9:18 pm
        Read this. Maybe it’ll make you feel better about the Iraq war.
        http://www.rightwingnews.com/john/whyiraq.php

      • jim

        Doc, Hamas and Hezbolla had training camps in Iraq during Sadams Riegn. He also funded terrorists in Palistine. Before we went in U.N. wepon inspectors found artillary shells designed to carry binary nerve gas and Al Saoud missles. Both against the U.N. agreements. The fact that he gassed the Kurds and Iranian soldiers shows he did have some WMD’s.

      • Allan

        Liberals love to say they can support the troops without supporting the war. I was in the military in the Viet Nam era, and I experienced that returning soldiers were despised by the anti-war liberals then. What liberals don’t understand is by totally denigrating the mission of the troops, they undermine the MORALE of the troops, which they need to SURVIVE. Thus, I consider liberals to be responsible for some of the deaths in Iraq.

      • Doc Sarvis

        So I suppose we should let the politicians put our military (ours sons and daughters) in any situation they please whether it is in the interest of our country or not.

      • George E

        Doc,

        Of course not. Maybe it’s as much about how you object to the deployment as it is that you object. For instance, conservatives never, never accused our troops of acting unprofessionally in any of the deployments that Clinton sent them on. You see, the truth is that most of our military is made up of conservative-minded people. It’s been my observation that liberals generally don’t support our military or their mission.

      • Blue

        Doc S.

        Are you a REAL doctor? A Medical Doctor? I hope not! If you are, I’d like to know where your practice is so I will never accidentally go to you.

        You’re reasoning and comments are ludicrous, insinuating that in some way, George Bush was directly responsible for 911.

        It’s too bad that Doctors are not required to post their test scores in getting there Medical License, at their practice. If you ARE a REAL Dr., you must have JUST passed.

      • Unknown Med School Dean

        Well Blue, he was a real doctor until the incident with the patient and drinking during surgery, lol –> http://www.personalliberty.com/news/joe-biden-success-in-iraq-is-obama-administrations-achievement-19614489/#comment-81841

      • Doc Sarvis

        And if George Bush were a real president he would have read his Presidential Daily Briefing and understood that there was a real threat and what to do about it months before 9/11

  • Paul C

    As someone who served in both Afghanistan and Iraq and who retired from the military in Jan. 2009, just 10 days before this lying, hypocritical fool and the Marxist he reports to took office, I can categorically state that NOBAMA had absolutely NOTHING whatsoever to do with our withdrawal schedule from Iraq. As has been pointed out by others, the timetable was negotiated by President Bush in the SOFA between the two countries.

    Once again, OBAMA and goofball BIDEN lie, twist, distort, deceive, rewrite, restate and in every way possible obfuscate the real truth.

    The American people deserve better, but quite honestly also deserve what they got because there were many, many people raising the alarm prior to the 2008 election. The net result is elections DO have consequences and in this case the unfortunate consequence was the election of this nation’s most radical, anti-American, un-qualified and incompetent President in recent memory. Obama makes Jimmy Carter look good and that’s not much of a compliment.

    I hope the voters stomp the crap out of the Socialists in the DEM Party this fall and that Nobama is ousted in 2012. This guy and the thugs he brought with him to DC is a threat to the liberty and security of every American.

    • American

      I couldn’t have said it better PauL!!! The only thing I can add is that we need to make sure that “organizations’ like ACORN are far away from anything related to elections so that we don’t get thousands upon thousands of non-qualified votes again. You know, people who are really deceased, people who vote 15-20 times, unregistered voters, etc. And most importantly, thank you from the bottom of my heart for your service to our great nation and continue to pray for who serve knowing that each day may be their last that they may come home safely as you did.

    • George E

      I’ll stand up and salute those words. Thank you, sir.

    • susan

      I also want to Thank you, What are servicemen are doing for our Nation takes great courage. .What are the other soldiers saying over there? Do they believe the President is there for them or are they fighting with their hands tied? I blink back tears every time a soldier and his buddies walk into a Restaurant that I may be having breakfast with my children.I am so proud!

      • Claire

        Then, the next time you see soldiers in a restaurant–pay for their meals. I have.

  • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

    I’m not an Obama fan at all, especially in the diplomatic arena, but he does appear to be fighting a better war than Bush did! They even recently captured the 2nd highest terrorist on the Terrorist ruler-ship list since 2001! Otherwise, agreed, Obama is destroying our economy, probably because of his deal made to become President with Lucifer, the present ruler of this world!

    • American

      When you say, “They even recently captured the 2nd highest terrorist on the Terrorist ruler-ship list since 2001!” who are you talking about? Obama and Biden didn’t capture anyone, our soldiers who went in risking their lives for us captured him. This was Bush’s war on terror and Obama and Biden were against it from day one and voted accordingly even though there have been many successes although some dems will says otherwise. No matter how hard Biden tries to make us think this is Obama’s success the world will never fall for it. Well, maybe those who still have their heads in the sand and only come out to hear what wonderful things the messiah is doing for them by way of the MSM. You have dems out there saying you “can’t rewrite history” and then appear on TV shows trying to do that very thing.

    • JeffH

      Victor L.B.. Obama ain’t fightin’ this war and Obama didn’t capture anybody!

    • phred

      Sorry, Victor, but Masso O wasn’t anywhere near Afghanistan when they captured Mr. #2—that was our troops that did that. Masso O was too busy working to entrench Communism into what USED top be the most free nation on the planet.

  • perry

    You guys are total lunatics to the hilt.

    • JeffH

      perry, can you elaborate a little more on your comment?

      • http://www.NRA.com Dartanian

        Nope, that’s about the extent of perrys vocabulary. He’s an ACORN employee and still waiting for the Osama Obama FREE education that he was promised

  • susan

    clydeG….I can’t imagine what the military think of either of them. Obama is no Commander in Chief and doesn’t seem to show respect for the military except on Veterans Day. The military of this Country deserve a lot better than they are getting from this Administration. At least George Bush got a Heros welcome every time he visited the troops and he would personally thank them and pray with them. It’s such a tragedy that the enemy of the American people first and foremost seems to be it’s own Govt. Thank you for your service and God help all of us!

  • Victoria

    Kick out these fools! They are an embarrassment to our country!

  • clydeG.

    I’m thankful that I’m no longer in the military where I was under a sworwn pledge to defend my country from all enemies both foreign and “domestic”.

    • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

      clydeG: Once a soldier, always a soldier. If our country is in peril, you had best get off your ass and defend the USA. And if you are physically incapable of doing so, then you had best have a decent firearm at your side.

  • susan

    What truly amazes me that nobody has called out either Obama or Joe Biden on their obvious hatred of George Bush. They will continue to take credit for the prior administrations accomplishments and blame them for everything else that doesn’t go their way. Obama has divided up his responsibilities under so many Czars that if something goes wrong. It’s once again, not his fault. As for Joe the buffoon, maybe a job as court jester? Joe and obama deserve each other, neither could tell the truth if it was written on a teleprompter or happening right in front of them. This Administration is so twisted….We are now the laughing stock of the world!…………

    • Norm

      susan
      What prior administrations accomplishments are you referring to?

      • Michael J.

        Norm,
        What I think Susan is refering to is, the liberating of 25 million Iraqis, the removal of Saddam Hussein (hey, I just realized he’s got the same name as our president) who was single handedly responsible for the deaths of more Muslim’s than any other one man in Middle East history. Another one of the war’s results was the creation of a fledgling democracy and ally that effectively split the hard line Muslim dictatorship nations right down the middle.

        And don’t forget those pesky WMD that the Russians removed before we got there in a convoy that stretched across the dessert from horizon to horizon and ended up in the Bekaa Valley in Lebanon.

        I’m not trying to read Susan’s mind, but I think that’s probably what she was talking about.

      • susan

        Thanks Michael, Exactly only you said it better!

      • Blue

        Michael J.

        One thing everyone continues to forget that WMD (Weapons of Mass Destruction) is an overall reference to destruction to both HUMAN LIFE as well as Property. The US went into Irag because Saddam had WMD that he used against his OWN people…. He GASSED hundreds of thousands of them. He also had the other variety which WERE discovered. I still have the VHS tapes I recorded of the videos, showing the discoveries.

        So to keep saying, they didn’t exist is for those people who do not wish to give George W. Bush ANY credit for ANY thing but just put there head in the sand and say it didn’t happen.

        Oh, I just had a funny thought…. Head, sand, Irag! :D

      • jim

        Hi Blue, I guess Norm and his buddys forgot about Chemical Ali. I,m sure his job entailed haveing to do something.

    • George E

      When does the campaigning end and statesmanship kick-in? Probably never with this group. I haven’t heard GW publicly criticize Obama’s administration once since he left office, although I sure bet he’d like to….. I believe GW is trying to be a statesman in service to the nation. I sure wish Obama would do the same.

      • Liberals stink this place up!

        George; The Osama Obamas, Biden, Pelosi, Reid, Bawney Fwank, Chuck U Schumer, Charles Wrangle, the idiot from Sat. Night Live(can’t remember his name), & and a whole host of those other ignorant, laughable, liberal morons WILL NEVER have enough class to become STATESMEN. It takes waaaay more than what they’ve got in terms of character, honor, integrity, & honesty. They will never be more than lying, thieving politicians!

    • Michael J.

      Susan, I agree, bufoon. This guy couldn’t pour pee out of a boot, even if the instructions were written on the heel.

    • David

      Heck soon Michelle is going to pass Barry with the czar movement. I think she is up to 22 personal servants, all highly paid to kiss her butt!

  • http://hubpages.com/hub/Warmings-a-Hoax-But-That-Doesnt-Explain-Mr-Freeze Daverino

    “Say it ain’t so Joe!” Could be the title of a thousand page book quoting his mis-quotes. But did you hear the latest?

    After the Opening Ceremony at the Olympics he met with the team and he actually said, “He couldn’t believe how courageous they were for risking failure and humiliation in front of millions of people!”

    I guess in 2years, 9months and 16 days, when this socialist experimentary period is over, we know that Joe won’t be hitting the Motivational Speakers tour?

    • Tim

      I heard that too, and thought what a lousy thing to say about someone that has spent so much of their life to get to the Olympics, only to fail in front of millions.

      Biden is such a buffoon. He is nothing more than a “good ol Uncle Joe from next door” that might help take your Mother’s trash out once a week, but beyond that, no one in the neighborhood really takes him seriously. He’s the opposite of the slick talker BO, that the campaign needed to touch base with us commoners.

      He really does not think before he says anything. Like the wheelchair guy that he told to stand up during one of his campaign rallies. Oops…again.

      • Michael J.

        Tim,
        This administration was created in the image and likeness of the TV sitcom “The Jeffersons” in which all the white folks were stupid.

      • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

        At least George Jefferson had a dry cleaninig business. He was one of those people who “make America work”. That TV show inspired me when I was little.

      • Liberals stink this place up!

        Ha Ha Ha Ha.. if the Jeffersons tv show so easily inspired you, it is now clear that you and the rest of the liberals like you are in real trouble.

    • Rocketman

      Right on Daverino

  • BILL S

    you do not have to appologise for slip, word spell on my e-mail always changes Obama to “Osama” anyway!

  • BILL S

    Makes more sense to listen to “Norm Crosby” than either Biden or Obama.

  • http://YAHOO ALBA10

    When will the Osama oops, Hussain Obama administration stop taking us for fools who believe everything they hear?

    • Robert

      When they’re thrown out of office.

    • David

      In November 2010!

  • Norm

    Well I don’t believe anyone has achieved success in Iraq, or ever will.

    We still have over 100,000 American military plus God knows how many paid American contract mercenaries. Iraq has a weak government, that’s not particularly pro US. The majority of Iraqis want the US out and, in fact, hate the US. We have wasted billions upon billions of dollars and suceeded only in destroying Irans worst enemy.
    When the US leaves, I predict a civil war, that will result in a Islamic regime which is friendly with Iran and totally anti American.

    • Doc Sarvis

      Not to mention the kill numbers ( thousands of American soldiers and 100s of thousands of innocent Iraqi citizens).

      • Ken

        Have you checked your Ancestry? There may be a little Biden in there some where.

      • Doc Sarvis

        Just proud American, thank you.

    • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

      Norm, you may not want to believe this but the bible actually says that in the latter days “Israel” will completely destroys “Esau,” “Jacob’s” (Israel’s) half-brother, which most certainly must include Islam! PS: The bible also actually says that the name “Israel” was given to Joseph’s children “Ephraim” and “Manasseh” and that in the latter days that Judah would call itself “Israel” but not in truth and righteousness! Great Britain is Ephraim, although does lose their end-time protection, probably because of implanting a false line of David as their kings! However, Manasseh (The USA)is protected in the latter days. Well, at least 12,000 of them! But it also is evident that besides gentiles, there is at least 12,000 each of the different tribes of Israel in America marked to be saved! Ephraim, as said earlier are not (Great Britain)and Dan (Ireland) are not saved at this time; probably, because they first came to America as Jesuits because no Roman Catholics were allowed citizenship in America before the Civil War!

      • phred

        Why in hell do some of y’all have to try to promote your $%*$%( bible and religion on EVERY thread here? I doesn’t matter if we are talking about recipes for bread, somebody, usually several somebodies have to make it a %&((^%((^&&)^%$%##@#%@ reilgious argument!
        Can we have a discussion where logic, etc. are extant, and not try to “prove” something with quotes from books of mythology?

      • jim

        Phred, Why are you so afraid of a “myth”?

      • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

        Phred, ain’t that the truth? Everywhere you go on the Web, you can’t avoid those bible-thumpers. They try to shove it down your throat.
        Your relationship with God (or Her, or Them, or Whatever you believe in) is your own personal business. Why can’t they accept that and just leave you alone?

      • Blue

        Jessica,

        Yeah, you go girl!! Who ever heard of “Freedom Of Speech”?!! Now shut them up! ^o)

      • coal miner

        Jessica,

        You are right.If I want to listen to that religious bullSh**t,I would find it at some church.

      • coal miner

        phred,

        Religion,
        Are you kidding? You just log into the Longview State Mental Hospital in Ohio.Everytime we let our guard down,these nuts have a field day with our computers.I think we are going have to take their toys away.They will behave or else.

      • JeffH

        old king coal miner, You just answered a question I’d been wondering about for some time. Do you remember when you were admitted to that institution?

      • Liberals stink this place up!

        Victor;
        Norm doesn’t care, he’s either an atheist, or a muslim! So are phred,jessica, blue, and coal miner!

  • Snowbird In New Hampshire, USA

    Joe, show us Obama’s true birth certificate not his fake birth certificate.

    • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

      C’mon, Snowbird, enough with that birth certificate nonsense. Obama could be the bastard son of Satan, born on the third moon of Saturn, and it wouldn’t make one bit of difference. We’re stuck with him. Deal with it.

      • Dylan

        NOT stuck with him if the judge makes him produce the REAL ONE that actually means something. You know, the long form B.C. complete with birthplace, and signature of delivering doctor, as opposed to the short form rag from Hawaii that ANYONE who shows up before the registrar can get no matter where they were born. The one Oliar shows online is one of those.

  • gaetano

    hello Joe, you gotta go ,mio.myo. Remember that song?

  • Joe B

    Hi,Biden a libber,no surprise.Is he not a lawyer??To many of those in politics,no offense.Regards.Joe

  • thefedupamerican

    Biden is a fool. They should close him in his office and shut the door. Obama is a socialist. WE the People should show him the door in 2010.

  • Robin from Indiana

    Barry and Joe like to blame the Bush administration for just about everything, taking no responsibility for their decisions, unless they think something will make them look good in the eyes of America.

    It is time to vote in new people and hopefully boot out the corrupt ones!

  • Ino Martin

    Biden is soooo dumb!
    You guys campaigned on Afghanistan and even called it the good war,why skip that to Iraq when it will make you an obvious liar!
    Well there is no sucess there!
    Welcome to the white house!Campaign is over guys ,do your jobs!

    • Dan

      I think Biden just putters around in an alcoholic stupor most of the time. 10-1 the first drink of the day at 9am is a martini.

  • Robert

    At this point I don’t care what any politician says, whether democrat,republican or independent. The success in Iraq is the result of all our brave military people serving in the armed forces and those who gave the ultimate sacrafice for our country. I spit on any politican who has the nerve to claim credit. And I’ll always say thank you to any soldier for what they are doing for me and my country. So shove your bragging where it will do some good you lousy politicians.

    • s c

      Robert, RIGHT ON! Every time a politician screws up (regardless of which party is involved), nail the rotten #&@*!^&@! And every time an apologist tries to whitewash an issue, blast them at the same time.
      Call a spade a spade. If they don’t like it, give them a jar of vaseline and tell them what to do with it! People who worship at the altar of hypocrisy are fair game for whatever happens.

    • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

      I agree with the post, but in the end there will only be one winner and it will not be what many people have ever imagined to be the real truth and these many, many peoples probably even will wish that it had not happened that way!

  • Harold Olsen

    The Obama regime refuses to give Bush and Cheney credit for anything. But then, that is the way the left works. They take credit for things they had no part in and even tried to stop and when they screw up it’s always someone else’s fault. Take the credit and deny responsibility!! There’s one left-wing group who even blames Bush and Cheney for the Oklahoma bombing. Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t that happen on Clinton and Gore’s watch?? Oh, silly me! Bush and Cheney knew they would be the next president and VP and wanted Clinton and Gore to look bad. That must be it!

    • Joe H.

      Harold,
      No, no no! They hired the dude!!!!

    • Cel

      Harold, Bush nor Cheney need anyone to give them anything.

      Neither are running for anything.

      Have you really watched Cheney? When this guy speaks, it is like E.F. Hutton….man, this man could debate anyone…when he debated during the elections he was great….that is why the Dems hate him…did you know that the White House discovered Saturday that Cheney was going to be on Sunday T.V. and they sent Biden out also…what does that tell you……”they fear that man”

      As for Bush……..look at the way that man and his family treated the Obama family before Obama came into office….they invited the Obama girls and Michelle over….put baskets of gifts in their rooms …so kind in every way….this is the people they are.

      Do you remember what the Dems did to the White House before Bush and Laura moved in? They had to get painter and repairmen to do work on the interior…..what a contrast.

      No, Bush nor Cheney need anything………they have the respect of the people who know them….and I have a feeling that means much more to them than credit for anything.

      • Stephaan

        Cel,
        You are right on with your assessments on both transitions at the white house. The entire Bush family showed the greatest respect towards the Obamas. This just shows the difference between a family HAVING CLASS, AND ONE HAVING NONE LIKE THE CLINTONS’.
        One thing you forgot was that Hillary stole furniture and dishes from the white house and air force one! Now there’s some “class” for you! When she was caught and had to return them, the only excuse Hildebeast could think of was “oh I thought they were mine to take” Yeah RIGHT! The Clinton transition team also stole all the “W”s off the computer keyboards and typewriters, and pretty much trashed the place.
        When I think of class and integrity, I think of Mrs. Bush stepping off of air force one, or any other time she was in public.
        When I think of NO class at all I think of the photo of mrs. Obama stepping off a.f.1 in cutoffs, and looking like a hippie reject from Haight Ashbury.

        This last line in your post says it all, so I wanted to repost it, and add that even people who don’t know them personally feel the same respect for them because of the class and integrity that they show.

        (The Bushes) they have the respect of the people who know them….and I have a feeling that means much more to them than credit for anything.

  • s c

    Hypocrisy, thy name is Biden. Is this the same third-rate comedian who whizzed and moaned about us being in that part of the world? Now that Obummer is the new White House brat [AND HE WILL FIND WAYS TO KEEP US THERE], it’s peachy keen dandy for us to be there. HYPOCRITE!
    If someone cornered mouth-flappin’ Joe, I suppose he’d say if Obummer was prez before GB, America would have been better off because Obummer would have done it right ‘way back then.’
    YOU LOUSY, STINKING, HYPOCRITES! You wouldn’t buy or get or have ethics or leadership if it was sold at WalMart.

    • Doc Sarvis

      I believe if President Obama or even Kerry had been president instead of George Bush we would not have invaded Iraq and we would be on a much better footing in Afghanistan now (if not already out). We would not have wasted over 3,000 brave American lives in Iraq, we would not have scarred (physically and mentally) tens of thousands more American soldiers, and we would not have killed or maimed hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis. Forgive us.

      President Obama is working to get the United States of America out of Iraq, just as he promised. It is just taking longer than he optimistically thought it would.

      • Michael J.

        Doc Sarvis,
        4 comments in and your already off topic. Obiden is taking credit for actions that both him and his boss opposed. Obama voted against the war and the build up that later solved most issues. Then there was Dirty Harry Reid who proclaimed that the war was lost. These bums have had an effect on the economy like turning off a light switch. Foreign policy bowing and kissing up has produced squat. Can’t figure out what to do with a terrorist who has admitted guilt and requested to have his sentence carried out. (What are they trying to kill him with, old age?) In spite of a majority can’t pass health reform, cap & trade dead, can’t even get the Olympics to come here. Goes to campaign for 3 fellow dems and all three loose. It’s desperation time for them. latching on to anything and everything that may help save them just like the last outreach of a drowning man. Kind of ironic when you think about it but Obama the mortal may meet his end drowning in the water he once walked on.

      • Doc Sarvis

        It is hard to understand a topic when it is based on a partial quote from the Vice President. I did not see the Larry King Live interview so the context of his partial quote is very important to understanding the statement. I don’t jump to conclusions.

      • Jana

        Doc,
        That is what happens when you try to talk about things you don’t know about. I did see that and couldn’t believe my eyes or ears. He thought it was something he and Obama could take credit for. You know the old adage lie often enough and everyone will believe it, however we are all aware of their tricks and their lies.
        Shame on them!

      • Joe H.

        Doc Sarvis,
        We would be on better footing in Afghanistan or already out?!?!?!?! Yeah Wright! We would have insurgents coming from both Pakistan as well as Iraq. Real smart move to make!!!

      • Larry D. Crumbley

        Hello,
        Hello DOC SARVIS get your head in gear this guy only makes partial sentences and then he makes statements that are so false, and misleading even a child can see he is lying through his teeth. Please wake-up, and smell what he is trying so hard to do, and that is re-write history. Are you going to make comments in favor of what this fool is saying? Maybe we could have put more monies into Afghanistan and maybe turtles could fly also, but the fact still remains we now have a partner in the fight on terror in the new Iraq, and it does not have a thing to do with this administration at all okay DOC. It remains to this day a victory in the war on terror to the last President George W. Bush. I know you might not like that, BUT IT IS THE TRUTH SO HELP ME GOD ALMIGHTY.

        Thanks,
        Larry C.

      • Doc Sarvis

        Iraq was not in the war on terror until well after we invaded the country. There was no terrorist threat in Iraq. Our invasion there was a terrible political blunder.

      • Rocketman

        Hay Doc, you (words removed for offensive content).

      • Doc Sarvis

        What a great(?) come back. I must say, where do you get your material?

      • jim

        Doc, You claim there was no terrorist threat in Iraq. Please explane what the training camp for Hamas and Hezbola was then. Palistinian terrorists were being funded and suported by Sadam.

      • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

        Hello! It obviously works very well for the Democrats through the years!
        Isn’t it strange that the very rich and the very poor both tend usually to be Democrats! Isn’t it also even more strange that most of the brilliant minds and the lower intelligence minds tend to be Democrats too? People are strange, aren’t they?

      • Harold Olsen

        And there’d have been more 9/11 type attacks. When it comes to defense, I wouldn’t trust a Democrat to protect a child from a school yard bully.

      • Dan

        Obama is grasping straws, Biden biting at the opportunity to say a kindness about his boss. Always nice to take credit for someone else’s objectives (in this case Pres Bush) So THIS is his great accomplishment since taking office? Geeez I thought it was his “Around the World Apologetic Tour”

      • Chuck Bear

        We all need to look back Bush removed Saddam Hussein from power and freed the people of Iraq which needed to be done. Yes it cost a lot of american lives and money, but we need to remember freedom is not free and the world is now a safer place to live becuase of GWB. No WMD were found, ture but freedom rings a little lounder in Iraq and its people are now free, that is more important then finding WMD so the Iraq war wasn’t for nothing and alot of people are better off today then if Saddam Hussein remained in power. Just ask an Iraq citizen.No GWB wasn’t perfect but he got the job done. Also I don’t think Obama or Biden have the balls to do what G.W Bush did. So I think Bush did the dirty work for Obama. Will see when it comes time for Obama to face off with the nuts in Iran remember Iran is building nukes and rockets. Lets face it Biden acts like a drunk old man shooting his mouth off and Obama’s like a young boy still wet behind the ears. So I have to ask the american people hows hope and change working out for you? Do you have a job? do you have health care? do you have a futrue? Are you better off now then you were a year ago?Remember when Obama was running for office he said our lifes wouldn’t be like this if he was elected into office he was going to fix it all and Washington was going to change the world. Yeah right, hold on people we have three more years of this crap God help us all.

      • Cel

        Chuck I agree with you.
        My 3 grandsons all wanted to go help the Iraq people. and they have no respect for his President. They said that when Bush was in …they knew he backed them. Obama said a lot of things when he wanted votes and we now know he lied to us.

        I see all these connections with the Islam world and it is frightening. He seems to always protect the Muslims. When I saw the picture of Obama and Michelle at the Convention with Louis Farrakhan I could not believe it, it’s probably still online….now this new guy ‘Rashad Hussian, he was at the same convention…he is on his staff and in a new position from first instated.

        I just believe each person he has put in place is just a piece of the puzzle…. in the way he wants to “transform” America.

        I watch how easily he tells his lies….this is something he has done all of his life…..no integrity….

        Can’t wait to vote …

        **

      • Ken

        Well, there you go! This mentality is what has gotten us in this mess. I don’t see how a body can be so blind , I guess you did not have anyone killed in the 911 attacks or have any compassion for anyone that has. War has been in existance since the begenning of time and so has evil. I guess you will not wake up until these devils come into your bedroom window. it is easy for you to make comments and you have a right to your views.This is not a question of whether you or anyone else is right or wrong but we are in more danger than most may think. These people are infiltrating our country, they are your neighbors, merchants and they have thirty two training camps in this country and at this moment planning your demise and all politicians are going about business as usual playing the blame game.
        The mentality seems to be that we are sitting in a safe zone in the U.S. and we are exempt from any harm because we are such a spoiled society and the reason that we are so spoiled and blind is because we have had these young men and women die on the battle field around the world to keep us safe and I am so thankful for our brave young people. Whether all these wars are necessary or not, we would have to have a crystal ball but it has happened and we can’t go back and change that but one thing is for sure , remember you are still free and are free to express your opinion and we have enemies amoung us that we haven’t experienced yet, laying in wait to seperate your head from the rest of your body and we sit around and blame someone just to express a personal opinion. I hope that you have that freedom in the future but your mentality is to lay down and let the steam roller run over you and you don’t even know it is coming, well if that is what it takes to remove the blinders but it may be a little late. Biden and Obama are taking credit for anything good and blaming anyone else for the problems, whom cares who is to blame , lets find someone that will take responsability and fix it before we find ourselves in a mire that we can’t get out of, we just may be there already.

      • Ken

        BS, Doc, you should be in politics, mybe Obama will make you a Zar. Have you applied?

      • Father Martin

        You are so clueless in everything that you say as well as believe. The war we are in you will never understand. So why even make a point about it.

      • Ken

        Doc, I noticed that at the begenning of your sentence was ” I believe”
        Who cares what you believe, your opinion is as worthless as anyone else. Knowledge and facts only matter!

      • Jackie

        I find it interesting that the left constantly complains about human rights abuses but criticizes the removal of Saddam Hussein and his regime who murdered over 180,000 Kurds, who along with his sons had torture and rape rooms, and who oppresses his people for numerous years. Yet they send there representatives to D.C. to push intervention into Darfur where the same horrors are taking place.

      • SiliconDoc

        More likely the USA would have been blown apart 3 times more like on 911 by now with olibtard and the tree hugging bed wetting crybaby give peace a chance libs.
        The only thing keeping us safe so far is the already established security, which no doubt the libidiots are destroying as we speak.

      • David

        Doc, if either kerry or obama had been in charge we would all be wearing diapers on our heads right now! Kerry is a bigger waste of space than Biden.

      • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

        David, that was an hilarious post. You remind me of those bitter old Swift Boat Veterans with deep pockets and long grudges who came out of the woodwork back in the 2004 election and beat the living sh** out of John Kerry.

      • old white guy

        ya you’d just have husssien putting money and arms against the troops

      • George E

        Doc,

        This article explaining why we went to war with Iraq takes exception to the notion that your Democratic heroes wouldn’t have taken us to war if they’d been President.
        http://www.rightwingnews.com/john/whyiraq.php

    • Larry D. Crumbley

      Hello,
      My friend I like your comments but they would not even be good enough to buy it at Wal-Mart because they are elitits, and that being so theya re also progressives and as such they only think about thinks if they can get the credit for something good that someone else has done in such is the case with Joe-(WHICH WAY DID THEY GO)-Biden. Never confused just lost in outer space most all the time. Also getting into vehicular accidents seem to run in his inner circle, and that goes to show you he is rubbing off on his driver.

      Thanks,
      Larry C.

      • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

        I bought a metal storage rack at Wal-Mart just last week. When I pulled it out of the box, I realized that it was probably some beer cans just a few months ago. Flimsy piece of cr*p. Those Chinese slaves rippped me off again!

    • Rocketman

      Hay Doc Sarvis, you are (words removed)

      • Doc Sarvis

        I say again, where do you get such a biting vocabulary? I am impressed.

  • JeffH

    In Biden’s case, I would say he’s had tremendous “suckcess” when it comes to Obama.

    • Doc Sarvis

      I know I can always come to this site and find an intelligent(?) and insightful (?) comment.

    • Harold Olsen

      Well, as that great philosopher Jerome Horwitz once said, “If at first you don’t succeed, keep on sucking till you do succeed.”

      • buckneked

        Why were we there to begin with? Was it hidden weapons of mass destruction? Was It Al Qaeda ? Was it because Hussein tried to kill Bush senior? Was it worth all the lives lost Both American and Iraqs?

      • JeffH

        Why don’t you explain it so we all know!

      • George E

        Here’s a pretty good narrative from the conservative point of view explaining why the US decided to take out Saddam Hussein in the “second” Iraqi war.
        http://www.rightwingnews.com/john/whyiraq.php

      • http://www.NRA.com Stephaan

        Well lil Buckaroo, why don’t you ask madam Sec. of State Clinton what the reasons for going into Iraq were? She believed the WMD’S were there, and they were! So did all of America. Of course NOW all the liberals and Bush blamers deny it. What do you think nerve gas is Buck? Saddam used it to kill thousands of Kurds (his own frickin people) in the North.

        Very convenient rationalization, for her to say she never did support the war! You ask about Al Qaeda? She also mentions Al Qaeda is in Iraq in her speech. What cha thinkin now Buck?

        Clintons words:”In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security.” — Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002

    • derVenerschnitzel

      Well, they certainly don’t have much else to crow about… they make it up as they go. Obviously there are some who want to believe so badly, anything will do.

      • http://joeaeverson@hotmail.com Joe A. Everson

        How is killing 1,000,000 Iraqis in a war that had nothing to do with 9-11 and bankrupting our economy in the process considered a success?

      • Michael J.

        Joe,
        I don’t know, just ask Joe Biden, He just took credit for things that you mentioned.

      • David

        Joe, by knocking one domino out of the line, that’s how. And I believe the current admin is busting our deficit, by triple, not for the war but to take care of his peeps…..suck a$$ unions.

      • old white guy

        matyh is not your stong suite is it?

      • old white guy

        spelling would seem not to be mine

      • Cel

        I don’t think it is the “success” you have the problem with…

        it is the war.

        Those people in Iraq have freedoms now that they did not have before.

        Freedoms that you enjoy.

        Freedoms that my 3 grandsons help you keep.

        You sir just want to argue about the war…like I said not success.

      • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

        Actually, we killed about four million of them because of 9-11. They killed three thousand of us. They don’t have to like us, they just need to fear us. Congoleeza Rice said that when she was Secretary of State. Sharp, classy lady. I admire her so much.

      • http://joeaeverson@hotmail.com Joe A. Everson

        If [the Obama] administration wanted something to crow about, all our troops would be home now.

      • SiliconDoc

        Oh geee, are we past the 6 month promise of the Oliar already ? Maybe, uhh…err. uhh uh uh uh uh he meant 12 months or 18 months ?
        LOL
        After the bugout you can expect the libtard msm to report a perfect new Iraq country that is finally free in and of and for itself, except for, unfortuantely, the 30,000 troops Oliar, responsibly and with deep regret, had to leave there to keep cleaning up GWB’s mess.
        Yep, other than billions stoeln BushCheneyBurton and the other right wing paramilitary death squads that won’t be reigned in for years( since they can’t stop their murderous spreeful fun so saith the msm ) the msm will tell us Oliar created a great and wonderful nobel peace prize success of pure democracy that in many cases to be cited functions better than the USA that the evil necons delivered to us all recently.

      • http://personalliberty.com Jessica

        That rant made no sense whatsoever. Learn how to articulate, already.

      • Stephaan

        Well Jessica, I understood the “O’LIAR part ;-)
        Obummer, Nobama, & Nobomba are getting kind of old. We needed a new nick.
        As far as Condalisa Rice, you are spot on! That lady has more class than Mr. O’Liars wife will ever have! mrs. O’Liar has made such a non-impression on me with her lack of class, that I can’t even remember her name right now. lol

        As for Joe Kissup giving O’Liars administration credit for Iraq? All I can say is Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
        Kiss his pooter some more Joe!! ;-)

      • Allan

        He might brought the troops home if he could, but he KNEW that was unrealistic. It was pure campaignspeak to get the votes of those against the war. He knew if the progress in Iraq was undermined, he would be blamed for all the money and lives lost. Much safer to take credit for the surge now…credit for opposing the surge and for the success of the surge. What a guy.

    • Warrior

      I do admire the above father/son picture of these two nincompoops.

      • SiliconDoc

        Looks like obama is admiring joe’s privates as he strokes out another favor.

      • Cel

        Then you must have really loved the one today with Obama giving his speech.

        Biden stood there grinning like a jackass every time Obama praised his administration for the great job they have done creating jobs.

        (too bad Evan Bayh just told the world yesterday that if he went into business and created one job for America,it would be more than Congress did last year)

        Biden had a bulls eye in the middle of his forehead.

        I could not figure out if it was a target for Cheney or what.

        **

      • Warrior

        That’s gooood stuff!

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