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Banker, Butcher, Spy: Who Our Government Bullies And Bribes to Make This Their Cashless Society

February 17, 2010 by  

Banker, Butcher, Spy: Who Our Government Bullies And Bribes to Make This Their Cashless Society

It was the girl with the dark hair. For a few seconds Winston was too paralyzed to move. Whether she was really an agent of the Thought Police, or simply an amateur spy actuated by officiousness, hardly mattered. It was enough that she was watching him.”
George Orwell, 1984

With just days to go and a congressional recess looming, lawmakers are scrambling to find a legislative solution to re-up government surveillance and intelligence-gathering powers that are expiring at the end of the month.

With national security shaping up to be a major issue this election cycle, both sides are under intense pressure to reauthorize three expiring provisions of the USA PATRIOT Act.

Already Senate Democratic leaders are moving toward including a one-year extension on the provisions in their jobs bill, which was expected to be introduced this week.

No one doubts that the world changed for the worse since 9/11. One way has been our own government’s suspicion and surveillance of the very people that elected it.

Of course Washington has been telling us for a decade that it has no choice, that it must spy on us for our own good. It is all part of the War on Terror.

It is worth noting that our government began spying on us in earnest a generation earlier. That time it was because of the War on Drugs.

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It was a hot July day in 1990 and I needed a cold drink. The offices to the Myers’ newsletter were on the second floor the Old National Bank Building at the North Division Y on Division Street in Spokane, Wash. One of the perks of paying hefty rent in the new building was that the bank let us use their lunch room replete with cola and snack machines.

Moments after my quarters had plunked into the machine I had a cold can of Coca-Cola in my hands. On the way out of the lunch room I noticed a giant poster on the wall from the Department of the Treasury (see chart below).

Click on the image above to expand the view.

As you can see its pretense is to catch criminals involved in “narcotics trafficking.” See the mention on the bottom? It offers “substantial rewards for information leading to the seizure of currency and/or the arrest and conviction of individuals violating United States currency laws.”

In other words, beware of the kindly bank teller if you deal in cash for whatever reason. He or she has openly been bribed to spy for the Treasury Department, the Internal Revenue Department (IRS) and U.S. Customs to boot.

You can see that more than a decade before 9/11 our government was busying itself in spying on its citizens. And the biggest attack on our liberty isn’t on what kind of gun we can own, where we can smoke, or even what we search out on the Internet. It is the slow and insidious control of our currency. How much money we have, where we have it and how we move it has become a preoccupation of the Federal Government.

There was a time when there were $1,000 bills. That is no longer. A rapidly devaluing hundred dollar bill is the biggest unit of currency today (in 2010 a $100 bill has the purchasing power of a 1975 $20 bill).

Twenty five years ago you could buy and own U.S. Treasury bearer bonds. Unregistered, they avoided scores of red tape—they could be bought and sold literally overnight; or if necessary, kept in safe keeping away from prying eyes. They too are extinct.

There was a time when you could move money in and out of the country, no questions asked. You can’t do that anymore. For years anything over $10,000 going across the border must be reported.

Uncle Sam wants to know any transaction over $10,000. That law doesn’t just apply to banks or border agents. If you go into your Ford dealer tomorrow and plunk down $12,000 cash, it will be reported to the Feds. Not only that, but if you spend more than $10,000 cash at a car dealership within a year (bought two cars on two different occasions for $6,000 each), the dealer is responsible to report the total of both transactions. In effect, private business has been conscripted by the Federal Government to report on its customers. And the Federal Government’s heavy hand reaches beyond U.S. borders.

In the late 1990s I was driving from my home in Spokane to Calgary, Canada. At that time it was illegal to transport more than $10,000 currency out of the United States, but Canada had no such laws (that would come a few years later, no doubt under pressure from Washington). At the Kings Gate border in British Columbia the Canadian Customs Agent asked if I was carrying more than $10,000 cash.

“What do you care?” I asked.

This did not sit well with the young lady charged with protecting Canada.

“Are you going to tell me… or are we going to have to strip your car and your person?”

“The answer is no, but what I want to know is why are you asking me this? It is not against Canadian law for me to bring in any amount of currency, is it?”

“No,” she said, “it is not. But it is against U.S. law!”

To underscore what she was saying she pointed 75 yards to the U.S. Customs office welcoming southbound traffic.

“So what you are telling me is that you are not only a Canadian customs agent, but you are also acting at the behest of the United States government?”

I realized I was walking a razor thin line and in jeopardy of having my car torn apart. Fortunately she handed me my drivers license (the days before you had to have a passport) and without a word she motioned me to continue on my trip.

A couple of weeks ago I wrote to you about the War on Gold. What I have learned in the last few years is that our government is conducting a War on Cash. Washington despises cash because it is an instrument we can use to exercise our liberties without being monitored. Yet for non-criminals like you and me it is a disappearing tool. Fewer and fewer of us do business with currency any longer, leaving whatever commerce we have easily tracked and traced.

Yet just as criminals continue to have ready access to guns, they too have mountains of cash. There is almost $900 billion in circulation, four times the amount there was in 1990. Meanwhile there are only 300 million Americans. If the drug cartels and terrorists weren’t holding buckets of cash, every man, woman and child would have $3,000 stuffed in their pockets or mattresses. Even if you account for what the banks have on hand (which is surprisingly little), that is a ludicrous number.

Law abiding Americans are without the utility of cash and the inherent privacy it allows when conducting commerce. Yet the drug dealers and terrorists have stacks and stacks of currency on hand.

Today our government is able to track almost all of our transactions in this increasingly cashless and restricted society. Never mind the War on Drugs and the War on Terror. It seems to me that the real war is being conducted on the American people.

John Myers

is editor of Myers’ Energy and Gold Report. The son of C.V. Myers, the original publisher of Oilweek Magazine, John has worked with two of the world’s largest investment publishers, Phillips and Agora. He was the original editor for Outstanding Investments and has more than 20 years experience as an investment writer. John is a graduate of the University of Calgary. He has worked for Prudential Securities in Spokane, Wash., as a registered investment advisor. His office location in Calgary, Alberta, is just minutes away from the headquarters of some of the biggest players in today’s energy markets. This gives him personal access to everyone from oil CEOs to roughnecks, where he learns secrets from oil insiders he passes on to his subscribers. Plus, during his years in Spokane he cultivated a network of relationships with mining insiders in Idaho, Oregon and Washington.

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  • Tea Bagger Tim

    (bought two cars on two different occasions for $6,000 each)

    Working at a car dealer I can confirm that this is not true. Having been through four 8300 audits, these are seen as seperate unrelated transactions. However, this is an item that is subject to the interpretation of the field agent that is assigned to the case. We had to appeal this to the IRS and finally recieved a response that the transactions were seperate and unrelated.

  • Roy Bradford

    You people are making me afraid to keep saving my money in a bank!

    • http://www.nosmog.com ROBERT

      THAT IS TRUE, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE READ MANY E MAILS , ALIVE PEOPLE RIGHT NOW ARE RUMORS ARE REAL HAPPENING NOW IN AMERICA ABOUT THE BANKINGS. I HAVE NOTICED MY BANK OF AMERICA INSIDE ADS POSTERS ALREADY WIPED OUT BLACK MARKER ABOUT HOME LOANS AND %%%% ON THAT BOARDS ANY MORE AND BLANKS !. WHAT IS THE “SIGNS” MEANING TO YOU ?. YOU PEOPLE HAVE VERY RIGHTS TO BE “AFRAID” TO KEEP YOUR MONEY IN ANY BANKS !. WHAT CAN YOU DO ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW ?. EVERY AMERICAN CITIZENS MUST REMEMBER— WE MUST SET UP OUR NEW “II AMERICANS REVOLUTION MILITARY” RIGHT NOW AND PLANNING FOR THIS AND CONTACT YOUR LEADERS OF “PATRIOTS FOR AMERICA” AND “NATIONAL TEA PARTY LEADERS” AND OUR ALL MILITARY SOLDIERS ALSO STATES MILITANTS AND OTHER GROUPS OF LIBERTY MILITARY, ANYTHING . THAT WILL HELP AND PROTECT YOU PEOPLE RIGHT NOW. LETS DO IT NOW !

      • JeffH

        ROBERT, you need to pull back just a bit. Either you are a government instigator or you don’t have faith in your fellow patriots.
        We must remain civilized until there is no other options available, which doesn’t mean “don’t prepare for the worst”. Our voices ring louder in Washington, and believe me when I say this, they hear us loud and clear. That doesn’t mean they, Obama Administration and many in Congress. will listen though. It is OK to be prepared, but the fight has already started at the voting boothes and will continue until we harness this “out of control” government.

    • DaveH

      Roy, you should be afraid. We almost certainly have massive inflation in the pipelines, and as the dollar loses its value, so will your cash savings. Look into protecting the value of your savings. Hard assets are the answer. They will retain their buying power as cash money loses its buying power. I think Gold, Silver, or other hard assets that retain their value would be the best choice. But also consider some Natural Resource Mutual Funds or Precious Metals Funds.
      Don’t just take my word for it. Do some studying on the causes and effects of inflation, and how to protect your savings from it:

      While we may not experience Hyper-inflation, it is certainly possible with our current lawless Government:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperinflation

    • LindyMaeUSA

      Roy, look around, Hon.

      Last April, my sister called and said “I should take my money out of the bank!” She’s a Certified Financial Planner, specializing in Social Security/Medicare for Senior clients.

      The same day, I withdrew every dime I have in the world from my small, home-town bank and from my ING account!

      • Claire

        I hope you have it in a safe place.

  • LindyMaeUSA

    Question: If someone travels across any U.S. border with MORE than $10,000. cash on them and the traveller admits to having more than $10,000 WHAT HAPPENS TO THE EXCESS?

    Does Border Patrol simply “confiscate and POCKET the “overage” with no explanation to the traveler of WHERE that money is going and IF they’ll ever get it back?”

    I’d like to know: what happens to the monetary overage and who has the authority to confiscate it from the traveler and will they ever see that money again?

    • blackhat

      No…it is not confiscated at all. But, it IS reported to the IRS and the FED.

    • DaveH

      Lindy,
      You should read this article. It will shock you. Especially read about Ethel Hylton:
      http://www.fff.org/freedom/1093c.asp

  • Christopher51

    “I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.”
    Thomas Jefferson

    • http://www.nosmog.com ROBERT

      THAT IS TRUE CHRIST, I AGREED WITH YOU ABOUT THE BANKINGS IN AMERICA. TELL ME HOW CAN YOU CLEAR UP IN CONGRESS AND DICTATOR OBAMA AND THUGS ?. VERY IMPOSSIBLE ANYONE OF US CAN CLEAR THEM UP !. I READ YESTERDAY OUR CONSTITUTION PATRIOTS FOR AMERICA ONE COMMENT MAN SAID ONLY ONE WAY ABOUT NOW OUR GOVERNMENT AND OBAMA AND HIS 60,000 YOUNG SOLDIERS BACKER NOW AROUND WASH.D.C. !. WHAT CAN OR ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT ?. YOUR FIRST CHOICE AS I FELT THE SAME WAY TO SET UP RIGHT NOW NEW “II AMERICAN REVOLUTIONS ARMY” !. WE MUST THINK OF OUR “FREEDOM RIGHTS” IN MANY WAYS TO PROTECT OUR “GOD’S PROMISED LAND” IN AMERICA SINCE CREATED EARTH BY GOD AND ANGELS, SECOND: PROTECT TO ALL AMERICANS CITIZENS, THIRD: OUR “CONSTITUTION AND AMENDMENT LAWS” FOURTH: OUR LIVING STANDARD LIKE BUSINESS, INCOMES, BANKING,FOODS, CLOTHINGS, ETC.FIFTH: NEED BETTER NEW GOVERNMENTS AND REMOVES & KICK OUT ALL COMMIES, MUSLIMS AND ISLAMS, BILDERBERGS AND SKULL & BONES (BUSH SR.&JR) DICTATOR OBAMA AND HIS THUGS , REMOVES ALL LIBERAL DEMOCRATS AND DEMOCRATS AND SOME REPUBLICANS OUT OF OUR SIGHTS !. THIS ALL PEOPLE INSIDE OBAMA AND CONGRESS ARE VERY VERY “EVILS”
      MUST GET RID OF THEM COMPLETELY BY HOW — “OUR “II PATRIOTS AMERICA REVOLUTION
      MILITARY” WE MUST HAVE THEM NOW !. DON’T EVER IGNORE OUR AMERICA COUNTRY !.
      MILITARY”

  • Murphy

    Even though created by Congress the Federal Reserve is a private corporation owned by the member banks of which some are foreign. They put money in circulation through the member banks and only pay the cost of printing to the Treasury. In return they get government notes for the face value + interest. Your tax dollars pay the interest but the principal continues to increase. No coincidence the Fed and Income Tax were created in the same year. Not hard to figure who owns this country and it ain’t you and me. The last president to authorize the issuance of Treasury bills was JFK and you know what happened to him. The money is the same color but that is far as it goes. That is it in a nutshell Fred.

  • Doc

    Thank you this was a great article. I refinaced my house and took out some equity which the title company “wired” to my checking account. I took almost 5 days to show up. I called my bank and asked what the hold up was?… the transaction has to go through the Federal Reserve! I thought, Wow that is so Big Brother… I was speechless. You can’t even get money wired from a bank without it going through the fed…unreal. Of course they want to tax it even though I have been paying taxes on the “value” of my home each year as they slowing artifically crank it up even though I have not sold it for that much or even before I had it appraised and refinanced it.. they take money that is not even earned yet, and when you do earn it they take it again…double tax???

    Doc (former Corpsman, not DR.)

  • Nick D. Petrovich

    Klaus is right,

    We, who in Serbia have survived both Hitler and Stalin have learned how to run circles around the KGB and Gestapo, so it’s America’s turn to do the same with the incompetent pink imbeciles languishing in Washington and bankrupting the greatest country in the world.

    Saludos from Mexico

    • Swansong

      Nick D. Petrovich, you have this 100% correct.

      I never imagined that History would repeat itself in the USA. Karl marx would be so proud. I thought THIS was the one country where people KNEW what freedom was and what it tastes like. They don’t.

      Here we are, becoming like Russia & well along the path to misery.

      Can you wake up, Americans? Is there any appreciation of freedom left in you?

      Black, white, brown, Republican or Democrat – or whatever other flavor you profess to be. When freedom is gone you’re gonna miss it an awful lot.

    • JeffH

      Nick D. Petrovich and Klause, both of you speak volumes. Should America ever be transformed to what this dictators ideals are, we will have to fight our war underground and around the abusive government rules, as they could no longer be considered laws.

      • DaveH
      • DaveH
      • JeffH

        DaveH, thanks for the link. Sometimes I guess we are not who we think we are by those definitions of liberal or conservative. We love our country and we love our freedom, but you can’t have one without the other.

      • eyeswideopen

        JeffH, when are you going to start fighting to repeal the Patriot Act? Oh, forgive me, I forgot that the Conservatives don’t want anyone to have any freedoms other than those they dictate. Sorry.

      • JeffH

        Bite me! Hack!

      • JeffH

        Didn’t YOUR president just renew YOUR presidents Patriot Act?

        Hack!

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        Before you bite anyone eyes – get a raby shot.

      • klaus

        Jeff,
        Let me interject something here, that very few people here either know about, and if they do, they choose to ignore it. That is, when Obama first started his campaign, long before he was ever thought to even have a chance, he was at a rally/meeting at a fire house in upstate New York. The TV was on, but I was doing some work around the house, and not actually watching it, just listening. He was telling people all the wonderful things that he would do if he were elected. At that point, a fellow in the audience said that what he was proposing was very laudible, but how was he proposing to pay for it all? He answered immediately with a bunch of political BS, but in the middle of it all, as part of his entire response, he said “from those that have to those that need, each according to his means”. When I heard that I dropped my wrench and screamed!! I was so stunned that I couldn’t put words to it. Those words flowed out of his mouth without any hesitation whatsoever. The reason for my reaction was that, as a child we were taught Karl Marx’s Manifesto. WE HAD TO KNOW IT, we were tested on it, and that is a quote taken out of that book!! I contacted every conservative talk show that I could think of, and each and every one of them IGNORED IT, like it was a severe case of bubonic plague. Their response told me more than I could ever have hoped for. Where I come from, we have a saying, “no answer IS also an answer”, you just have to be listening.

      • JeffH

        klaus, I was lying in a hospital bed in Jan. 08 watching Obama speak and was pretty impressed. Later on, after I was out and back on my feet, bought a computer and started researching the candidates, I realized this guy wasn’t realy what he portayed to the people. He promised change and didn’t lie about that one thing, although every other word from his mouth was a lie. I woke up then! His history is available to see. He has been coddled, financed and trained to become president for some very evil and very rich people in this world. Well, americans are responding to this change and the Democrats are being taken down with the Obama administration. Patriots unite and fight this evil power with all of your might if you believe in freedom and for the sake of freedom throughout this land.

  • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

    For those who believe what the bible say: The “beast” in the latter days will set-up a “CASHLESS SOCIETY” and no one will not be able to buy or sell, otherwise! The World’s economy is headed for just this economic solution! Now, just who is this “beast,” remains to be known, and according the the bible this beast will go into the desert city of Babylon, Iraq and deceive the whole world! More information I believe that will be needed by us is found on icyahweh.org

  • http://www.nosmog.com ROBERT

    WHEN I WAS YOUNG ABOUT 15 YRS OLD,ABOUT 63 YRS AGO . I MET SCHOOL GIRL FRIEND AT LOS ANGELES,CAL. SHE HAD HER DEAF UNCLE FROM LITTLE ROCK,ARKANSAS. HE EXPLAINED ME ABOUT IN STATE OF ARKANSAS HAD MANY MEMBERS OF COMMUNISTS, HE IS ONE OF THEM. HE SAID THAT ONE SOMEDAY IN AMERICA EVERY STREET FOUR CORNERS WILL HAVE COMMUNISTS POLICE WILL WATCHING EVERY PERSONS WALKING OR DRIVING CARS ETC. RIGHT NOW THERE ARE EVERY NEWEST TECH. CAMERAS AT STREET CORNER !!!. THEIR DREAMS COMES TRUE !. THERE ARE HERE RIGHT NOW KEEP EYES ON EVERYONES . NOW I AM OLD MAN AND WE SAW IT NOW CAMERAS ON STREET ALL OVER AMERICA. THEY NOW USING THIS CAMERAS IN DIFFERENT REASON WAYS BUT THE GOVERNMENT DO USING SOME PURPOSES TO SPYING ON PEOPLE AND CARS.
    “WE THE PEOPLE” MUST START OUR “II AMERICAN REVOLUTION ARMY” RIGHT NOW AND THIS ARE YOUR’S WARNINGS , IT IS REALLY “A MUST” ! DON’T BE FOOLS OF YOURSELF AND WAKE UP AMERICAN CITIZENS AND STEP UP NEW TEAMS OF MILITARY AND MILITANTS ETC TO DO SOMETHING OR YOU ALL WILL ASK FOR SUFFERING LIFE TIME !..
    IF GENERAL GEORGE WASHINGTON IS STILL ALIVE RIGHT NOW IN THIS MODERN AGES , I AM SURE GEORGE W. WILL YELL TO EVERY ONES OF YOU ! AND WAKE UP ” TERRORIST AND COMMUNIST ARE HERE NOW ! “. OBAMA HAS BIGGEST “SMILE” AND “WHITIEST TEETH” OVER AMERICA COUNTRY RIGHT NOW . GET OBAMA OUT IN WHITE HOUSE NOW !.

    • skai

      Robert, ‘If General George Washington is still alive right now in the modern age .I am sure GW will yell to every one of you.Wake up ‘Terrorist and Commies are here now’. I would say Obama was the biggest mistake by Americans to put him in White House. He is a Muslims sympathiser, if we have not yet found that ,then we are all fools. Get him out of White House now. Authorities must have surveillance to keep us safe from terrorists and drug dealers. http://www.blip.tv/file/1382254

  • Klaus

    Please folks, this whole thing is almost laughable. Having lived under and having escaped from Communism many years ago, I have to tell you that this is NOTHING in comparison, and we (the people of my homeland)became very ingenious, crafty, sneaky and operated almost directly under their noses to get around their laws, rules and regulations. We had a very flourishing black market, and it’s only a matter of time before we get one here. You just have to learn all the tricks and details. As the KGB used to say “Trust, but verify”

  • http://tonisopinions Antoinette L. Knowles

    My head is out of the sand. I know what Washington, DC is doing. Nothing! President Obama is using executive privileges to create the changes that he did promise, so why worry about cash? All the cash won’t keep me alive when Obamacare goes through. Let’s see, cash,,hm, that must be what I am waitig now for from the Veterans Administration since last June. It was suppose to be sent within sixty days, when I try asking, a form is sent, another thirty days. Cash? I am not sure I know what it is any more.

  • FRED LARSON

    HEY JO MOMMA,

    WAKE UP…. THE FED IS PRINTING MONEY AND IT IS FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES.

    ARENT THEY “GREENBACKS” PLEASE DEFINE FOR ME THE DIFFERENCE!!!

    CAN YOU EAT GOLD?? MONEY IS USELESS AND BECOMING MORE SO..

    • diocletian

      So are all of the “greenback” dollars in your safe.

      You may not be able to eat gold, but you can eat the food you can buy with it.

      “Gold is money, and nothing else is”– J. Pierpont Morgan

  • FRED LARSON

    GOOD SHOT Not Impressed,

    RIGHT ON.. WATCH GLENN BECK FOLKS AND GET AN EDUCATION!!!

    • DaveH

      And John Stossel on Fox Business News.

    • Mike

      Glenn Beck’s an agent! Wake up, America! Get a hold of Alex Jones’ Podcast for February 15th. He breaks down how Beck is twisting the truth! Beck and Palin are twins seperated at birth. ;)

      • DaveH

        I’m sorry but personal attacks don’t enlighten me. Some facts please?

  • Deidre H

    IN response to Holtons’ post: Leave it to a far left liberal to criticize a ‘conservative’ when this is not even the issue at hand.

    • s c

      Deidre H, don’t be too hard on the many Holtons who ‘respond’ on this site. Their collective heads have been in the clouds for so long that they can no longer distinguish between reality and fantasy.
      They see Obummer as a god. They adore power for power’s sake. To them, government can’t be ‘big enough,’ and it can’t tax us fast enough.
      They think they’re ‘elites.’ In fact, they are the true dregs of society (and the world). They have sold themselves for 13 pieces of silver. They will do anything to get what they want.
      You and I would never be able to tell them to keep an open flame away from gasoline – or why. It’s simply too complicated for them. And having even one foot in the real world is even more complex for them. Only God can make these people understand anything.

    • chipshot

      Actually, it is all Bush’s Fault anyway.

      • Jerry

        George Bush Jr. George Bush Sr. Jeb Bush, Jimmy Carter, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Obama, it doesn’t matter which side they claim Republican or Democrat these folks are all part of the One World Government Group. George Bush Jr. said we had to fix the economy with a bail out, why so voters would be mad at Republicans and vote the socialist obama into office. iT Worked. Obama is just furthering the cause of the one world order. These People want nothing to do with the Constitution. Bill Clinton turned military tanks and planes over to the United Nations- this was an act of treason but nobody did anything. John F. Kennedy tried to remove the Federal Reserve lok what happened to him. You can bet Jeb Bush will be running for President on the Republican side. These people are sneaky, those who run on Repulican side claim to be for God and the constitution but don’t fool yourself they are evil men wanting to destroy this country so all will be forced into their system. The Bar Codes are just the beginning, you won’t be able to buy or sell anything without it, this will soon be the Mark of the beast.

        Just listen to old speech of George Bush Sr. when we went to war with Kawait, he said the reason we went to war was to further the cause of the one world government. Pretty obvious what side the Bush family was on. Problem is no one seems to know who these people are until after they are elected.

  • Not-Impressed

    Oh come on Holton! Can’t you see what your heroes in the majority in Washington are doing? Dig your head up out of the sand!

  • GreatScott

    Holton- The purpose of the law is to make everthing electronic, and if you do not behave yourself, boom, you are cut off and thrown out of the system. No job, no roof over your herad and no food.

    • Vicki

      Hmmmm….. I seem to remember a prophecy about a world where you could only be in commerce if you were part of a certain “system”

      • SiliconDoc

        Oh it’s also a movie isn’t it ? “The Net” I believe was one of the first modern ones- now it’s already becoming a reality.

  • http://??? joe momma

    …sent this message to tea party guy going to cpac???….

    ……here is the backstop boilerplate questions for all guests now………1) how do you feel abooot monetary reform??…….2) [knowing pete's next question?] i would urge the treasury dept to print enough greenbacks to replace all the federal reserve notes…….3) the next question probably would be about the inflationary concerns with this huge money creation……incrementally raise the reserve requirements for banks to 100% thereby absorbing all the new money and simulataneously cutting ooooot the ability of private banks to create money and control everythang…..this is also the answer to any charleton who claims “to be protecting the lower and middle classes”[obambi and the dumbocrats]….if he/she truly believes this then cutting oooot the private banksters from raiding everyone but the obviously rich….this also cuts the power of the rich to raid/control[obambi and the dumbocrats again????]………. is simple and easy answer…..this should be done now whilst we still have free internet the usual hucksters can’t control (our info)………perhaps you missunderestimateastand these comments….republocrats who preach lower taxes and smaller government but also gloss over these truths are just as worthless…..liers by omission……not that upstanding!!…….biggest liars of ommission??……..bought and paid for “press”"media”…….euphamisms for evil……

    ………oh yea……..sever all affiliations with global banking entities…….

    1) print greenbacks, not federal reserve notes
    2) buy up the debt with it and then take control of the money supply, by elimianting private money creation of fractional reserve banking
    3) if you ignore these ideas all your udders are doomed to failure(clueless cleave: congress don’t need laws to spend money – wake up!!)…..so you must ask yersefff???……..am i just flapping my jaws or do i really want to change thangs????…….

    • Greg

      If you are looking for greenbacks, use dollar coins. They are obligations of the treasury, not the fed. I’ve been using some everyday.

    • J.C.

      Bullseye !! Joe, Now to further inform, at the bottom of the following site of Sec. 19 of the Federal Reserve Act (1913 signed by woodrow wilson = evil)

      http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/section19.htm

      One will recognize that NEXT YEAR, Oct. 1, 2011 no member charter banks of ‘the system’ will be required to hold ‘fractions’ of their debtors’ loans….essentially, we’ve already become a cashless society in the future.

      We all can imagine a ‘cashless’ society……. fill in your blank…

  • Manfred

    Are off shore accounts illegal? Why not just get one and have as much money as you can afford put into it? Then when you’re ready take it out at will.

    • http://Don'thaveone Sally

      Off Shore accounts by US Citizens are illegal if you don’t declare them on your income taxes or show where you have the accounts however it still is hard to repatriate the money. Plus if you don’t keep excellant records of how the money got in the account and that you paid taxes, it is a criminal offense punishable by fines and imprionable.

      • manfred

        Sally,
        What you say may be true or not, however, ‘where there’s a will, there’s a way’. In my case I’m a naturalized citizen, who, because of the nature of my naturalization, still holds my European citizenship of my birth country. My entire family is still there, and were it not for my wife, I’d be there also. I’ve been back many times and each time it’s harder to return here. I love this country, but it’s not the country that I emigrated to anymore. I (my inherited family home)own a house there, and my brother is at this time opening a bank account for me in my REAL name, not the legalized alias on my cizenship papers. I will do whatever is neccessary to get money to him to deposit for me, even using the sytem we used to thwart the KGB, if neccessary. With Obama and his cronies hell bent on running this country into banruptcy, I want to be well ahead of the pack. As for employment, I’ve been fortunate to have made a career where I can work in any state or any country at any time, so that won’t be an issue. In the past 20 years, I’ve worked in 13 states and 3 different countries. Being fluent in three languages (I’m working on the 4th)also helps. If all my preparations wind up being un-neccessary, no harm done. However, if not I intend to be ready.

    • TimJS

      No, off-shore is not illegal as long as they are reported on your IRS forms. This being said, you are put on a watch-list once you report this bank accounts to the IRS. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

  • Holton

    The purpose of this law is to restrict transactions of money obtained through drug dealing, loan sharking,etc. I’m happy to see that conservatives are in favor of aiding criminals. Way to go guys.

    • realbigal

      OMG Are you ever naive!!!!

    • DaveH

      The drug wars have accomplished nothing but enriching the drug lords and our Government. Look at the mess in Mexico, for example. Our Government has caused that situation. The drug laws have also given the Government an excuse to trample our Constitutional rights. I would think intelligent people would have learned from the prohibition era. And then they were moving around relatively large bottles of liquor. It’s much easier to transport drugs:
      http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=11019

      You should know that I have no vested interest in drugs. I am a health food nut. I just recognize futility when I see it. Also, I firmly believe the Government has no business protecting people from themselves.

      • Joe H.

        DaveH,
        The crookedness of the government in Mexico has helped cause the myriad of problems they have as well. We haven’t caused all of it!

    • Vicki

      Holton. Hows that law working for you? Millions of honest citizens adversely affected and the drug lords get richer and richer.

    • Coray

      Your the one aiding criminals you moron. Every “law” enforcement officer, judge, and politician is a criminal traitor of the constitution.

  • Billy Ray

    This from The Curious Diary of Mr. Jam by Nury Vittachi: “Something weird and shocking is going on: money is going out of fashion…Yes, the cashless society is here.

    “And it stinks.

    “It prevented me doing business with all the hardworking people who deserved it: the scrambled egg woman, the minibus driver, the taxi driver, the fried chili woman, the street musician and the newspaper vendor.

    “I was forced to give my transactions only to the big businesses: transport corporations, McDonald’s and 7-Eleven.

    “AND I ended up spending more than usual.

    “The buyer loses.

    “The vendor-on-the-street loses.

    “The faceless corporations win.

    “Cashless equals heartless.

    “Incidentally, a lawyer tells me that signs saying “no payments in cash” can be ignored.

    “No court would punish a person for honestly paying a bill,” he said.

    Anyone want to join me to fight this trend?”

    • http://Yahoo Dee D

      Billy Ray -It’s probably been changed or not enforced any longer, but there used to be a law on the books that said if anyone tried to pay a bill and the money was not accepted – the bill was considered as payed in full.

    • TimJS

      I do every day – Cash is King.

  • Lena

    If you walk into your bank and want to deposit a hefty sum of cash — regarless of where you have gotten it from (your grandmother could have left it in a coffee can for you!), you better have a good explaination becasue the bank teller and perhaps or especially the manager will look at you like you are a criminal. If you are lucky, you can make the deposit and not attract unwanted, unwarrented and malevolent investigation

    • http://Yahoo Dee D

      Also Lena – If you have a large sum of money in an account they can make you wait as long as they choose if you want to take a large sum out. They also determine the amount you can remove and it has to be in their time frame.

      • FRED LARSON

        Lena,
        The barter system works and the irs hates it..

        I have 4 million dollars burried in a vault and only bring out
        $5,000 at a time.. AND SPEND IT A LITTLE AT A TIME.. LET THE
        COMMIES IN WASHINGTON TRACE THAT…

        As long as you don’t need fuel to power your transportation you are
        all set.. GET A HORSE

      • Vicki

        Horses require fuel. Its called Oats. :)

      • SiliconDoc

        I received an extra letter from the bank today along with the usual statement: ~ ” If you have been called by card services and had a transaction checked on, it may be that the transaction was valid, it’s just that your usual pattern of spending didn’t match.
        If you recieve a call in the future to verify a transaction, it is because the transaction does not match your usual use pattern of spending. Blah blah blah…”

        So of course, in the name of tracking everyone, you are now expected to answer the phone when they check if you are using your card, or perhaps, they did not say, the transaction will be rejected.
        LOL
        The nanny debit card, brought to you by loose data bank computer security and criminals and the nanny overlords, who lost “your information” along with the help of a dozen government agencies “a long time ago, more than once”.

    • TimJS

      . . . and why would you deposit this?????

  • Jake Reed

    Every American is given early in life, a Social Security number. This is long before they are eligible to receive any payment through that system. No one agrees that he or she will only buy or sell or whatever after having a Social Security number issued. Yet there are millions of God fearing Americans — good honest people — who work “off the books,” bury gold, and buy with cash. The trick is not to get caught because the government sees them as criminals.

    • eyeswideopen

      Jake, good honest people, who don’t believe in paying their fair share for the infrastructure that they use daily? Sounds good and honest for those who complain that their roads are bad, or not enough police,fireman, teachers, etc…..You people are funny, complaining that the Dem’s are stealing your money, while you commit the same crime the wealthy do when they hide their money off shore to avoid paying their fair share of taxes. Oh, that’s right the Conservatives have so much more integrity don’t they??? UnAmerican hypocrites is what you are. Do you think the rest of us like paying your fair share, while you hide it?

      • JeffH

        Pay no attention to this liberal hack! She’s now decided to attack conservatives. That will be her new MO.

      • Dee

        Eyes – you’re right. these people are hypocrites. They shouldn’t use the roads, the post office, the libraries.
        and not call 911 when they need it! Why should we pay their taxes. Taxes have been around since before Jesus and I don’t see how that’s ever going to change. If people just take their money out of the top commercial banks and put it into community and local banks, it will take away their power. That’s what needs to be done. The banks use their power to fund wars, oil and influence politicians. Wake up – that is your real enemy!

      • Joe H.

        Dee,
        I have been around since the inception of 911 and have never used it so you lose there. I have had my money taken from my pocket every time I buy gas for the upkeep of those roads so I guess I have a right to use what ever roads I so choose!! I buy stamps and place them on my envelopes so therefore I have the right to use the post office. the problem is that they also take taxes from me to support the post office in that it operates at a loss!!! Any more examples???

      • SiliconDoc

        The “crime” the wealthy commit by hiding their earnings offshore is “the crime” the “Congress” made L E G A L.
        Now you may do your reassessment.
        Oh, wait, there’s that other thing – our Congress’ having promised income tax was only for the very rich, and only to pay off the recent war costs.
        And: The big controversy over proper ratification.

        Ah, so now we’re down to: taxation without representation, illegally.

      • TimJS

        What everyone is forgetting here, is that it is not Dem’s v. Rep., it is a corrupt government and supporting infrastructure. Don’t believe me, go to Washing D.C. and pick up the yellow pages. You will find that half of the book is lobbyist. And we need this many – why?????

        The state of Texas has a good governmental plan. The politicians can only go into session every two years. Wow, if that was the law that our govt. had to abide by, what would all of the lobbyist do in between the two years.

        Suggestion, take the time to go to this website and be prepared to spend 20 hours as there are about 100 videos + other links by the same team. The work behind this is strong. The videos are all chopped up in 10-11 minute segments. When you get through with this, you will see that we have all been minimized to the level of laboratory rats. I don’t like, but that is what it is . . . I do not mean that we need to roll over and play dead. We each need to be making plans for our lives. You know the saying, “hold your friends close and your enemies closer.” We need to pay attention to that saying.

        http://www.youtube.com/user/FaShoFaSho1212#p/c/B59C4C10EC3692E1

        I do agree that the progressives are pushing us hard now, but they are just a pawn being used at this point and time. If its not the Progressives, then its the Marxist or the Communists or the next flavor of the day.

        Watch the videos – at least a few of them and I think that you will agree.

  • MJ Montana

    “Any people that would give up liberty for a little temporary safety deserves neither liberty nor safety,” said Benjamin Franklin. Bowing to a cashless society that Big Brother is constructing may be expedient but in the end we and our children pay a price.

    • derVenerschnitzel

      “Never mind the War on Drugs and the War on Terror. It seems to me that the real war is being conducted on the American people.”

      BINGO! It’s easy to connect these dots. The average American is considered a terrorist by this admonistration… as evidenced from statements by the Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano.

      • JeffH

        right to the point!

      • s c

        If Napolitano [or anyone else in this useless administration] wants to see a terrorist, a glance at any mirror will do it. It would be interesting to know how long the masters of these vermin have planned their strategies.
        I’m willing to bet that when the system crumbles (and whoever is in office has to ‘take credit’ for it), those spineless weasels won’t have have given one thought as to their safety when the American people do what should have been done generations ago.
        It’s one thing to be a useful idiot. When America’s elected useful idiots realize that THEY’LL feel America’s wrath before their masters do, it will be a most interesting revelation for them.
        I wonder how long it will take them to admit that “you can’t do that” won’t protect them. And the idea that “you can’t be trusted with a weapon” won’t mean anything, either. ENJOY,
        YOU BACK-STABBING TRAITORS!

      • eyeswideopen

        s.c. and who passed the Patriot Act? Wasn’t it you bunch of hypocrites? Let’s see, the War on drugs was also another republican screw up. You people dishonor the Constitution. None of you can complain….. Gotta love those republicans who passed the Patriot Act….oops they were probably Conservatives in disguise. LAMO!!

      • JeffH

        Treasonous Traitor! You don’t have a clue and never will.

      • Regular American

        Eyeswideopen, You are a victim of the evil powers that cause the people to complain about what political parties are doing and fight among each other, while they continue to destroy our government.
        They use dupes like you to divide and conquer the American people.
        You would do good to wake up and see what’s going on around you and not fall into their trap.

      • SiliconDoc

        I guess we’re waiting for those anti patriot act libs to scratch the whole like they screamed they would. So much for that !
        Next, it seems to me the 60′s lib revolution assured all of us there would be a war on drugs – destruction the black family, ensuing crime ridden ghettoes, and a gigantic lib welfare state – now that’s pretty good batting average for a group of stoned out communist progressives.
        Now they have another “healthcare” “crisis” created by the insane “any immigrant may come!” open borders open society George Sorros elite lib “Americans won’t do these jobs” smarmy pansy libtard elite mindset.
        And just recently we’ve seen their propensity for XXXX spending far above and beyond the last group of republicans, GWB NOT INCLUDED with tarp since the libs ran Congress at that time and the EXEC branch had to carry out (and twist they tell us) Congressional orders on the matter….
        Yeah, so much for the republicans being the big screw ups.
        It seems to me the facts are the democrats are already red pinkoes of the marxist order of the world, and they’re dragging the republican party kicking and screaming along with the msm, the 40 years of public indoctrination with mass media, and the massively opaque giant money pot they pass around like pigs at a trough.

      • Regular American

        SiliconDoc Defiantly has it figured out. I agree 100%.
        These Marxist have taken our country to an all time low, and now think that the time has come for them to just come right in the open with their agenda, but there are too many of us still around who know that this form of government will never work with the American people who have freedom flowing in their blood, and will never willingly accept bondage.
        If the patriots can hold it together until we can get the evil entities out of control, we may be able to survive, but if we loose our freedom, we may never be able to get it back.

      • http://yahoo.com Sue C

        Right on target, and I want to add a few more things to your comments. This stuff is 233+ years old, and one day, all this wickedness, in the hide, will bear tons of fruits, and it will be a wrathful day, of judgement, for all the High Profile, Mid-Profile, Low Profile, and all those that are looking for a profile, who took part in this horrible crime against the American People! It is time to expose who the real terrorists are!

        The Bible says, in Psalm 139:11-12

        11 Surely the darkness shall cover;
        even the night shall be light about me.

        12 Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee;
        but the night shineth as the day:
        the darkness and the light are both alike to thee.

        So nothing is hidden from God!!!!! Psalm 19 “The judgements of the Lord are true, and righteous altogether! More to be desired are they than GOLD, Yea! Than much fine GOLD; sweeter than the honey, and the honeycomb! I really want to see tons of phenominal judgements of the wicked!

        The wicked has but little time, to answer for all the wickedness that was done to America!!!! It appears as if we have thieves all over the nation, and they don’t only steal money, they steal the dead soldiers’ body parts, to sell to the highest bidder, and they steal their blood, feces, urine, blood plasma, and sell those also for money, to occultists, warlocks, witches, and whatever else is in the world of darkness!!!!!

        The CIA and FBI are the worst crooks, among the uglier than ugly, in The USA! They use the Cyber Imaging Device, and they drug, and insert micro-chips in their targets, rape, and gang-rape them, cut off the womens’ fallopian tubes, to escape, penalties, in the instance they get pregnant. They also use their targets’ house/apts, as sex traffic HQs, and sell the bodies of women whom they targeted on internet/and in various localities. When they want, they inject their victims, with Bio-Chems/Hazards/Diseases, and at other instances they withdraw blood from their victims, for sale, or to drink as wine.

        Only the poor Americans, and Immigrants are out of jobs, and the employers, and fake employers who want their victims’ ID for illegal business, place false job ads on-line, for to rip their victims off. What next?

        On the Obama’s scene, he took over, and exposed the previous administration’s poverty stricken state of America, that they hid, cleverly, for several years. The people are starving, their pants, and dresses, are looking like someone else’s oversized clothes, on them, because of starvation! They have no jobs, no place to live, and children to feed. One day, this grace distress that was placed upon the wonderful people of this nation, is going to backfire, very soon, and all the guilty parties, be forewarned. There is no place where you can hide, where God cannot find you! You are going to pay severe Divine Penalties, that you cannot imagine was possible. I pray that it takes you all, down with your bloodline! Anything mentally, physically, and spiritually ugly as you are, should not have any posterity!!!!! Check Psalm 109; Deuteronomy 28:15-68, and Jeremiah 14-15 to educate yourself on the judgements of the Lord, for it will be fiery, and unbearable. All you rich, wicked oxymorons, in the hide, who thought ****NO ONE SAW YOU****You are in for a big SURPRISE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HAVE FUN!!!!!!

      • http://yahoo.com Sue C

        Right on target, and I want to add a few more things to your comments. This stuff is 233+ years old, and one day, all this wickedness, in the hide, will bear tons of fruits, and it will be a wrathful day, of judgement, for all the High Profile, Mid-Profile, Low Profile, and all those that are looking for a profile, who took part in this horrible crime against the American People! It is time to expose who the real terrorists are!

        The Bible says, in Psalm 139:11-12

        11 Surely the darkness shall cover;
        even the night shall be light about me.

        12 Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee;
        but the night shineth as the day:
        the darkness and the light are both alike to thee.

        So nothing is hidden from God!!!!! Psalm 19 “The judgements of the Lord are true, and righteous altogether! More to be desired are they than GOLD, Yea! Than much fine GOLD; sweeter than the honey, and the honeycomb! I really want to see tons of phenominal judgements of the wicked!

        The wicked has but little time, to answer for all the wickedness that was done to America!!!! It appears as if we have thieves all over the nation, and they don’t only steal money, they steal the dead soldiers’ body parts, to sell to the highest bidder, and they steal their blood, feces, urine, blood plasma, and sell those also for money, to occultists, warlocks, witches, and whatever else is in the world of darkness!!!!!

        The CIA and FBI are the worst crooks, among the uglier than ugly, in The USA! They use the Cyber Imaging Device, and they drug, and insert micro-chips in their targets, rape, and gang-rape them, cut off the womens’ fallopian tubes, to escape, penalties, in the instance they get pregnant. They also use their targets’ house/apts, as sex traffic HQs, and sell the bodies of women whom they targeted on internet/and in various localities. When they want, they inject their victims, with Bio-Chems/Hazards/Diseases, and at other instances they withdraw blood from their victims, for sale, or to drink as wine.

        Only the poor Americans, and Immigrants are out of jobs, and the employers, and fake employers who want their victims’ ID for illegal business, place false job ads on-line, for to rip their victims off. What next?

        On the Obama’s scene, he took over, and exposed the previous administration’s poverty stricken state of America, that they hid, cleverly, for several years. The people are starving, their pants, and dresses, are looking like someone else’s oversized clothes, on them, because of starvation! They have no jobs, no place to live, and children to feed. One day, this ****GRAVE**** distress that was placed upon the wonderful people of this nation, is going to backfire, very soon, and all the guilty parties, be forewarned. There is no place where you can hide, where God cannot find you! You are going to pay severe Divine Penalties, that you cannot imagine was possible. I pray that it takes you all, down with your bloodline! Anything mentally, physically, and spiritually ugly as you are, should not have any posterity!!!!! Check Psalm 109; Deuteronomy 28:15-68, and Jeremiah 14-15 to educate yourself on the judgements of the Lord, for it will be fiery, and unbearable. All you rich, wicked oxymorons, in the hide, who thought ****NO ONE SAW YOU****You are in for a big surprise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Joe H.

        Sue C,
        Take a nice long breath lady!!!!! You can still take your meds, even if you drop them!!! Calm down and chill!!!!

  • Andy in Idaho

    That works until you have to move money through your bank to pay you power bills or your mortgage. Those things that make up the vast part of the economy cannot be bartered because business has been drafted by the Feds to be their watchdog.

  • Viktor Leben

    Why not create another money system ? Wage unconventional monetary warfare against the fiat currency…. Sort of like a de jure barter system based on de facto gold credits …..

    There is no law against barter ! Just use gold credits as the intermediary currency .

    • Oscar Edge

      Not a bad idea that would put the Private Federal Reserve criminal banking cartel out of business. People need to understand the FED pays .05 cent for any bill from the treasury, they loan it to us and get back 100 cent on the dollar + intrust. It is a ponzi scheme set up by the Rothchildes in 1913. Great Book
      The Creature Of Jekkyl Island. Without these crooks there would be no National debt.

      • Rod James

        Your right Oscar and you named the family originator of the “Ponzi Monetary Game” over 400 years ago in Europe. That family also bank rolled the Carnegies,Rockefellers and JP Morgan so they are the major cause of economic hardship all over the globe. I just read the family wealth is calculated to be 500 TRILLION DOLLARS and half the world.

    • http://Don'thaveone Sally

      Oh yes there is especially if you are in a barter club so to speak, they have to report to IRS once a year kinda like W2′s and 1099′s the dollar value of your bartering. IRS has been trying to close down what is known as the “Underground Economy” for years using fronts such as terrorism and drug trafficing. When the Patriot Act went into play, it was horrible for USA citizens trying to do ligit business with other countries and accrpting and sending wires for goods and services, that is one of the reasons among many that the Standby Letter of Credit was put into play. But sending wires – it is unreal – oh yes, by the way, the same applies to Western Union – they also have to report and also keep track of how many wires you send in anyone period of time and to whom. In the USD there is no secrecy anywhere around the world. Many European countries will not allow US citizens to open accounts at their banks because they don’t want good ole Uncle Sam snooping in their business.

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