Hi Joe;
Good to see you. I figured that was you.
I have mostly been on the “slammin the supremes” page, trying to rid it of the liberal socialist trolls. That page has pretty much run its course. What is the most current page.
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J C
Ditto on what Joe H said. I too am curious. I have NEVER seen you get censored. Can you put it in code for us, so the censor won’t delete it?

Hey Dylan,
I try and keep my posts civil even when I’m good and mad.
I did get censored once though. I was advocating that Hillary and the UN should be (expletive) with everyone that knows how…
I guess I found the editors tolerance level and I don’t blame him.
There is always a better way to say something than by becoming vulgar.
Besides, I’d like to think that we who advocate the Constitution and Personal Liberty have the moral high ground, so why lower myself to that level of vulgarity.
Rock on Dylan.

Yep that works too Joe, or “Americas Criminals Lawyers Union”.
I subscribed to the ACLU’s news letter so they think I’m one of them & they send me updates on all of their phony baloney. When ever that want me to join them in our state capitol for one of their rallies, my friends and I load up the van and go up and protest on the other side!! ha ha ha.
Makes it really convenient for us when they keep me updated.

It is extremely important to allow these liberal hacks to display their hate and disgust for this conservative website.
All they accomplish is a strengthening of our resolve to fight them off and defeat them and those they support. As you all can see there is no worse venom spewed than that by the angry haters that think they are above us “peons”. They throw out their lies like you would toss out the trash. To them it is a hatred for anything Bush or Republican. They fail to relize that many of us are pissed at the two parties and the government, but nooooo, it’s always Bush, Cheney, 8 years or Reagan and most of all Republicans. Don’t forget Beck and Limbaugh and “FAUX” FOX. They can’t handle the truth!

plus the fact that Obama is a liar and we don’t trust him and his forked tongue, but noooo we are all racists, not because we don’t like his idealogy or his agenda to destroy a free America, but because of his ethnicity. Pretty screwed up ya think?

I agree JeffH. The beauty of an open dialogue is that subject matter is brought out into the open where it can be refuted. Too many people harbor ridiculous ideas because they have not been exposed to alternate ways of thinking.
For instance, I have a cousin living in the San Francisco area who is very intelligent and very Liberal. I can’t really blame him because the newspapers in that area mostly give the Liberal side of things, so how could he learn otherwise? With the Internet, though, it is getting much easier to be informed about all sides of an issue.
I have no problem with Liberal commenter’s who state their case without resorting to manipulative tactics like name-calling or ridicule.

Ops – I was replying to Dylan with the above.

Meteorlady;
The liberals on THIS page are very civil compared to some of the others. Go to the “slamming the supremes” page where the subj.is “obamas unjust words” There you will see some of the best examples of racist & foul mouthed liberals who are paid by A.C.O.R.N. to come to the conservative blogs, and try and totally disrupt us from our debates. (one appears to be a prison inmate)
There, on the last 1/2 of the blogs you will see such players as Gentleman Jim, a foul mouth racist, who uses 4 letter words every chance he gets. He is so bad that he is the only one to get his entire page censored, and received a copy of this sites “comment policy” printed in its place.
There are many others, two of which come to mind named coal miner, and denniso who are much the same. When they can’t debate the issues they resort to name calling and complaining about your spelling and grammar etc. It is just their way of “baiting” otherwise rational people into playing their game, and wasting our time and disrupting the blog. They have proven quite successful with this tactic, and I have fallen into their traps as well, and have been censored because I am not man enough to turn the other cheek. There is no such thing as “civilly” debating with those types of liberals.
Another point on debating liberals, even the ones who “seem rational”
95% of them have already made up their minds long ago. They know what the score is, and they are quite satisfied with their liberal socialist beliefs, and way of life. You can waste your time trying to educate them as to what is wrong with this country and our government, and all the time they are listening, but they do not give your arguments one iota of credence, and they never will. They are just happy that they have managed to engage you in an endless debate, and waste “your” time on here.

Hi Git it gone, In reply to your coment of why we don’t want you to use your ” good” ideas to help fix the mess we’re in, is because it is those same people with those “good” ideas that got us here. As far as big gov. fixing it, my vet fixed the cat and it will never work again either.

git it right,
Again I tell you Bush was a progressive and a RINO!!! Not a true republican!!!

to Get it Right:
Hey Dude or Dudette, are you a liberal, a conservative, or a moderate? I am totally confused. Some of what you state makes “some” sense to me, BUT much of what you post and the way you post it is just not within most peoples understanding as far as the scope. You first appear as someone who used to be a “complete bleeding heart liberal” that has possibly changed and become more moderate and more rational in your views. Do you know where you lie on the political spectrum? If so please explain.
Whatever you are, lib., con., or mod., try and temper your remarks a bit. ex: your posts to d3fault & others.

You don’t seem to get my point. I could care less what party they are in. A progressive is a progressive, and yes their case laws have literally ruined this country. You keep putting me in the pub party and I’ve stated twice that I hate them just as much. All I want is for the government to follow our constitution.
End of story.

D3fault,
If ‘git it’ would just read your posts, he would “get it”. I understood what you were saying easily. And you’re right, there are progressives (I call them Liberals) in both major parties. But they are certainly more prevalent in the Democrat Party.
The only party I know that understands the concept of Freedom is the Libertarian Party:
http://libertarianparty.org/platform

It seems that there is a politcaly correct move to start calling liberals progressive now. That is the “new” old word being tossed around on TV and cable as well as talk radio. Let us not forget, a spade is a spade, and a liberal is a liberal.

I’ve heard that too, Jeff. It’s similar to their calling Global Warming “Climate Change”. They can’t sell their bull with facts so they try to cloud the issue.

JEFF H – this git it right sounds more like eyes style.

I’ve just ignored it…so boring anymore.

Good post JC.
It’s ironic that those same leaders will send soldiers off to war to kill people without any effort to prove their guilt.
Government doesn’t like people who protect themselves because it shines a bright light on the inability of Government Leaders to provide that protection. They are only concerned about themselves.

DaveH,
We both know that “perpetual war” is a tool of tyranny, fascism and control.
They must keep the people frightened and believing that “they” are protecting us. They aren’t. They are however making a handsome profit from fear mongering and death.
As for gun control laws, they are as useless as breasts on a bull as regards public safety. Their only real “use” is in the ability of authorities to find and confiscate firearms. Which they would want to do for one reason and one reason only…to enslave and possibly murder us at will. History proves this.
It’s sad that there are people who actually do believe the notion that somehow gun control laws makes us any safer. These are people who put their faith in a utopian society governed by benevolent rulers. They do not take reality into account because it horrifies them.
When and only when we are once again a nation of armed citizens ready to defend ourselves, our families, our homes and our nation will we be a truly free people.
Until such time everyone advocating the disarming of Americans is “the Enemy”.

d3fault, once the imbilical cord is cut I can’t kill them, how come before? Do you need a bellybutton to be protected by the law?

Jim,
Good reply, good reply!!! They want it both ways. If you cause an accident and kill a child while it’s still in the womb, you can be charged with murder! This Dr. does the same thing and it’s legal!!! What a crock!!!

Great reply and I totally agree. This is just like the law of you being legally liable under case law for your child until they’re 18, yet they have major rights at much younger ages and you can barely discipline them. Again, this is only legal under case law which is illegal under constitutional law. Almost everything that’s been passed since 1920 is illegal. I’ve never opined here, but I sure like most the comments I read. I just wish more people would read and understand our constitution against the progressive’s case laws currently in effect.

D3fault, if you think that only the progressives or liberals are the only ones who have passed laws in this country, you are getting the kool aid by IV. I know everybody here on this site wants to kill the liberals, or send them to another country, but now to blame them for all the laws you don’t like. Honestly, it is easy to see why you aren’t taken seriously by the Independents. Let’s recap the Conservative/Republican viewpoints.
The liberals are responsible for:
All the bad laws ever passed. Patriot Act?
All the social programs—some that you even like(Medicare Advantage)
All the ignorant children,…even though you were all educated mostly in public schools.
All the corrupt politicians….even the Republican ones.List is long.
All the Wars….ha ha ha.. think Bush.
All the corrupt corporations….think Haliburton, Blackwater..AIG, Goldman Sachs, Enron, Bernie Madoff,
All the Illegal immigrants. Reagan granted 3 million amnesty.
All the failing marriages..even if they are adulter’s like Vitter, Ensign, Stamford, who happen to be Repubs.
All the bad trade agreements….think Bush sr, and Reagan= NAFTA
ALL the sinning Christians. OOps, only Repubs/Conserv are Christians.
All the unrully children.
All the Natural disasters.
All the abortions.. no Republicans never get them…Think of Barry Goldwaters daughter.
All the earmarks, as we know the Repubs never take them..Think of RonPaul and his 75 million.
All the unwed mothers.. oops, think of Palins daughter.
Since the Dem’s are responsible for all the ills of this country, it must mean that the Repubs/ consrvs do absoutely nothing at all. I know that if you would ever have owned any companies, educated any lawyers, doctors, children, you certainly would have made this a perfect place to live, by making changes when you had the political power….since you obviously never have had power, as we have all these problems today. So, since you don’t participate and aren’t responsible for any of the problems this country has, why don’t you just make crowns for yourselves so nobody forgets how perfect you all are? Then everybody can bow down to the “Perfect beings.”
How did you ever let them have control for 230 years? Shame on you.

Git it Right,
I am only going to address a few issues on your laundry list.
The Patriot Act was only rejected by one Democrat in the Senate. And only about 20% of the Democrats in the House voted against it. Maybe the Liberal Citizens are against it, but I suspect that the Liberal Leaders rub their hands in glee at the power it gives them.
Not all of us like Medicare, but our money is being taken to support it, so should we just forego what we’ve paid for?
Being educated in public schools means we should quit thinking and blindly accept the propagandizement of our children?
When it comes to growing the size of Government, the Liberals are the champions, hands down. If you don’t believe that, go to the Congressional sites and start reading through the roll call votes for passed Bills. The Democrats rarely see a spending bill that they don’t love.

Git it right,
How many times do you people have to be told Bush was not a republican???? He was a RINO!!! A Progressive!!! Are you people blind as well as deaf????

JeffH—O.K., O.K. I hear ya!

D3fault,
I agree that society has become embroiled with one side or the other trying to legislate their personal beliefs. I do think abortion is a very gray area, but still that choice should be made by the mother, as, after all, nobody has a greater stake in that decision than she does. Let religion assume an advisory role, but not a compulsory role. And by all means the state should not be using the tax money of anti-abortionists to fund abortions (or anybody else’s money for that matter).
We will all be dead and gone in a few short years. Can we just try to respect the freedom of others to mind their own bodies and property in that time?

HELLOOOOOOOOO…… this article is about gun control/rights. What are you ranting about?

Meteorlady;
It is accepted practice for posters to go off on a tangent from time to time. This is a kind of learn about everything experience, and use it for your advantage for your own pet projects. ie: After the subj. went from 2nd amendment, to abortion, I learned something about case law and the Constitution, that could have an affect on 2nd amendment issues, so it all comes back to square one eventually. Bear with us, we always get back on track.

I’m with Jeff in respecting your opinion but disagreeing.
If not for the NRA the CCKBA anbd the Second Amendment group would never have been here in time to have any effect. That and I do believe it is the NRA who are the most powerful challengers to the City of Chicago re: the Second Amendment rights challenge due shortly to be in court there.

I belong to Gunowners of America, which I think is the most efficient pro-gun group out there.
Although NRA appears to be doing the right thing now, in the past (20 to 30 years ago) they focused on Second Amendment rights to have guns for sporting purposes. That did our gun-rights immeasurable damage, as only a small portion of gun-owners are hunters. I have never been able to forgive them for that misdirection. The Second Amendment was about defense against any encroachers on our Liberty, including an out-of-control Government.

No matter which (if any) organization you belong to, it’s time to turn America back into a nation of riflemen. There’s some Homeland Security for ya!

I would look at anything they do in the defense of guns as a possible Trojan Horse. We need to keep the ACLU away from our gun rights regardless of which side they claim to be taking.

DaveH–I talked to my husband about this issue. His first reply was not too agreeable and he said the ACLU needs to stay out of it. He said ACLU has their own so-called goals and this issue may “sound” good to some but he doesn’t trust it. He said it will probably backfire. It is just another way for the ACLU to get their claws in us. Geez, I can’t imagine anyone trying to take his guns and his right to own guns away.

Good for your Hubby!

JeffH,
IMHO This would be the fox guarding the hen house!!! what’s to stop them from purposly losing the case and saying sorry we tried our best?!?!?!?!

I hear you, but both of us know the ACLU won’t touch it with a 10ft. pole.

Here is someone who is a supporter of gun rights.
http://www.examiner.com/x-16211-Salt-Lake-City-TV-Examiner~y2009m9d9-Glenn-Beck-lies-about-Cass-Sunstein-on-the-radio

Once again you feeble one track mind goes in anther direction. Do you feel warm and giddy? You should.

…and your point is that Glen Beck is a liar.
My point is that you are no better than Glen Beck and far worse. You constantly get caught in your lies.

eyes, because you brought it up, here is a real nice expose on Cass Sunstein that, ot only eyes should read, but so should everybody else.
http://www.nraila.org/Issues/Articles/Read.aspx?id=350&issue=021

Jeff, Cass, believes in the right of gun ownership, how is that going off track? You just don’t like it,cause you don’t like him. Funny,he would fight for your rights. What? Someone other than a Repub or Consv. believing in gun rights? Yes, Jeff, your party isn’t the only gun owners.

Garble what you want. It is obvious that you would support anything that has to do with this “nut case” just for the sake of disagreeing. An animal has the same or more rights to legal council than a human being? You can own a gun but only for targeting or sporting purposes as long as you don’t kill a “game animal”.

“My coming view is that the individual right to bear arms reflects the success of an extremely aggressive and resourceful social movement and has much less to do with good standard legal arguments than [it] appears.”
Mr. Sunstein said, “My tentative suggestion is that the individual right to have guns as it’s being conceptualized now is best taken as a contemporary creation and a reflection of current fears – not a reading of civic-centered founding debates.”
If you can’t understand what he is saying then you are more naive than I ever thought. Then maybe naive is a poor choice of words.

“Are we at last brought to such an humiliating and debasing degradation that we cannot be trusted with arms for our own defense? Where is the difference between having our arms under our own possesion and under our own direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?”
- Patrick Henry

Eyes,
Liberals Lie. Just like you do.
Why would Sunstein even make such a statement “it’s a contemporary creation based on modern interpretations and fears” if he believed it was an individual right created by the 2nd Amendment?
Of course Cass Sunstein is going to state otherwise in public now. It would be political suicide to say he didn’t support gun rights. The Liberals will just go back to taking their baby-steps in their ultimate goal to disarm us. I’m sure one of their big goals is to replace a Conservative Justice with an Activist Justice.
I had a Political Science teacher in College who said that retarded people were very conservative because they were afraid of change. He quickly followed that up with the statement that he didn’t mean to imply that Conservative people were retarded. Sure, of course he would cover his butt, but the seed was planted. Liberals are sly devils. They’re not about to say any words that they can’t wiggle out of later.

JeffH,
I especially like cass’s Idea of putting birth control in the public water!!!! Or his idea of if a rat can’t be removed from a house without harm, it should be left alone!!!! Buggs would say “What a maroon!!!”

JeffH,
Good ole’ fat Rosie O’donnel stated that she was against gun ownership and even got the guest chorus she had on her show to change the name of Annie Get Your Gun to something else for her show. this was the day before her bodyguard applied for a CCW permit!!! guess it only applies to us peons, right?

JeffH, did you not read the statement “I strongly believe that the Second Amendment creates an individual right to posses and use guns for purposes of both hunting and self defense. I agree with the Supreme Court decision in the Heller case, clearly recongnizing the individual right to have guns for hunting and self defense. If confirmed, I would respect the Second Amendment and the individual right that it recongnizes.” What more do you want? The Conservatives are not the only group that believes in the right to bear arms.

EYES WIDE CLOSED,
You try and tell a “good” story but I would say that this one sentence in your post makes you rather… “suspect” shall we say.

Your EXACT words—->If confirmed, I would respect the Second Amendment and the individual right that it recongnizes.

WTF does that mean “You would respect it, if confirmed?” I see two problems with your statement.

1. You don’t respect the 2nd amendment NOW, because it hasn’t been confirmed? In whos’ opinion? Yours? And WTF does that mean.

2. Why the hell does it have to be confirmed AGAIN in order for it to be in effect? This tells me you don’t RESPECT IT OR RECOGNIZE IT NOW!

It has already been DECIDED AND “CONFIRMED” 200 years ago when the fathers of the C.O.T.U.S. added the second amendment TO THE C.O.T.U.S. and it was ratified.

Who are you waiting for to confirm it? Your yoga instructor?

Open your eyes and WAKE UP!!

Stephaan, you fit right in with the group, what are you trying to accomplish?
First, I didn’t say that I didn’t respect the 2nd amendment, I was quoting what someone else said. I believe I even put the sentence in quotes.
Secondaly, Who said it had to be confirmed again? That seems to be your interpretation of what you read. Cass was being considered for an appointment which would require confirmation. You somehow what to take someone quotes and situation and make them attributal to me. Something the radicals are very good at, except this time. You wanted to jump right in here and in trying to get “good doobie” points for attacking someone that your buddy doesn’t like, instead you look like a complete nut case.

EYES WIDE ? (whether open or closed is still up for debate)

If your post wasn’t so vague, and ambiguous, maybe I could have understood it. When you are quoting someone else, STATE that persons name, then follow with quotation marks, so everyone knows it’s “them” speaking and not you!
I agree with you on the second amendment. It is the most INPORTANT ONE, because it defends ALL the amendments, the Constitution, and FREEDOM itself!
What I don’t understand is how you can support liberal socialist politicians, and their ideals, when you (as a 2nd amendment supporter) must know that they only want to subvert the Constitution and the amendments to it?
The first step towards their goal is ALWAYS to attack the 2nd amendment first! Once they destroy it, then everything is gone, and freedom as we know it, will be gone!! You will be left with a rock, or a stick to defend yourself, whether it be against a rapist, a murderer, or OUR TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENT!
Where do you come up with your racist, “old white men” theory?
I have believed in the 2nd amendment since before I was old enough to vote, as I’m sure most 2nd amendment supporters have.
I will vote for a politician who supports the 2nd amendment, before any other issue, always have, and always will.

eyeswideopen:
I have no axe to grind either way, but Stephan is correct. You should always put the persons name who you are referencing, the one who made the original statement, and then declare that you are quoting them so there is no confusion. I also thought it was you who was speaking.

This one I had not seen nor heard. Thanks Harold

Harold, show us a link that proves that statement you just made.

ACLU Files Federal Lawsuit Against White County, Georgia School District for Illegally Blocking Gay-Straight Alliance Club

ACLU Files Federal Lawsuit Against White County, Georgia School District for Illegally Blocking Gay-Straight Alliance Club

Attorneys backed by the American Civil Liberties Union of Tennessee have filed suit in federal court against the Cheatham County Board of Education for its alleged unconstitutional pattern and practice of religious activities.

The cross was used by those who hated Christianity, first to kill Jesus and then in an attempt to kill the faith. Today, the symbol of that same cross is so feared in secular society that their own “personal terrorist” has been sent to rip it away from the followers of Christ.

This terrorist has a name, and it is the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU). Rooted in hate and communist philosophy, it cloaks itself in constitutional phraseology and the American flag. In reality, it remains faithful to seeking the destruction of American principles.

The ACLU makes me sick to my stomach. I even get requests to donate. I won’t tell you what I put on the form and send back.

Harold, give link about forcing student to study Islam.

According to a WorldNetDaily.com story titled “Islamic studies
required in California district” posted 1/2/02, students there are
required to learn about this prominent world religion. However,
students were not going to be doing this via the traditional social
studies methodology of reading a standard text detached in tone about
the tenets of this system of belief and its impact upon the world in
terms of history, geography, and culture. Rather, the curriculum
required students to live out Islam. This was to be achieved by
having students memorize Koranic verses, praying in the name of Allah,
adopting an Islamic name, and staging a pretend jihad.

Islam studies required in California district
Course has 7th-graders memorizing Koran verses, praying to Allah
http://www.papillonsartpalace.com/islamS.htm

Course in Islam angers parents: California middle school has students role-playing and dressing as Muslims

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_6_18/ai_83144710/

BRENTWOOD, CA (ANS) — As children return to school this week, following the Christmas break, 7th graders in a growing number of public schools, who are not permitted to wear a cross or speak the name of Jesus, will be required to attend an intensive three week course on Islam; a course in which students are mandated to learn the tenets of Islam, study the important figures of the faith, wear a robe, adopt a Muslim name and stage their own Jihad.

In Byron, California, parents were outraged when students came home with their handouts and were told what was being taught. Their complaints to the school principal not only were ignored, but officials of this public school, funded by tax dollars, essentially fluffed them off.
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/b/byronislam.htm

Is that all you could come up with Jeff? That won’t be enough for EyesWideShut. Of course, if they were teaching Christianity, one link would be enough for her.

JeffH–I pulled up this site. My God Almighty, what is happening to America??!! I cannot believe the California school district allows this garbage. I can tell you one thing, if something like that happens in my town,I will raise he–. I am thoroughly disgusted.
Here in town it appears we will lose 30 police officers by the end of the month. The major asked police officers to take furlough days, and a smaller pay raise. The union will not negotiate. I bet I would take a few furlough days and a “small” pay raise in order to keep my job. But, (the big but) it appears they may lose their jobs anyway whether they agree or not. The crime rate stinks. Thanks to our corrupt government, they have made Illinois a sink hole. That disgusting Blago is still running around loose. He is crazy. Sorry, I did not mean to harp. I am going to have to keep on sending letters. It won’t do any good, but I can try.

Claire, as far as I know, that has been squashed in our schools.

Gee did anyone notice EWO and Coal Miner seem to have shut right up on this one? Good work Jeff….and shame on the California school system.

Harold,

Where do you and these right wing loonies come up with this horse(s***T)?Eyes,there is no proof to substantiate these statements.He is worse than that fake lawyer.I thought this thread was about the right to bear arms.I support that right.This guy belongs in a cracker house.

Shut the hell up coalminer. This blog is for conservatives and they can talk about anything they want.
You on the other hand are a well known liberal socialist slug that is here to disrupt the site, just like you ALWAYS try and do on the other page. Get a life you worthless fool. Go polish your royal master obamas boots so they will be nice and shiny when he eventually steps on your throat when you are no longer of any use to him.

That’s “thug” Dylan. Coal Miner is a Union Thug who can’t see the light through the coal dust film on his eyes.

LOL, yes thug and slug are synonymous in this case, but slug fits him better because of the way he always “slimes” his way into the blogs. ha ha ha, also he is a few neurons short of a synapse, which slugs are also lacking ha ha ha
I doubt he is actually a real coal miner. I think most of those people are really hard working conservatives, and I did not mean to imply that my comment was directed at them.

Question to coalminer,
How can you say you support the 2nd amendment, and the right for law abiding citizens to own a gun, when you are a bleeding heart liberal?
You can’t have it both ways, unless of course you don’t understand that it is your liberal socialist party that is the champion of gun control.

OH YEAH I forgot that every word out of a liberals mouth is a LIE!! ha ha ha… OR maybe what you meant was that you want only obamas civilian military force to have guns. Whatever the case, you are a LIAR, and DECEIVER just like your Lord obummer, and all his socialist slimeballs.

Dylan,

Do you know where the word thug comes from? It is from India.It is a religious cult.They are known as Thugges.I be careful about using that word,in a derogatory way.You and Dave, may meet the real thing.They are very sensitive about that word being toss around.It is death to outsiders,that uses their sacred name.They are followers of Kali,the consort of Shiva.Go to India and find out.They have been a rash of broken necks,in that part of India,here lately.They are surfacing.Chow!

They couldn’t possibly be any scarier than Obama.

LOL, Obama, Clinton, and a myriad of other politicians have used it, so I’m not too worried. Besides I don’t live in India, but thanks for the education.

Dylan,

That comes a surprise to me.I stared to work for Red bird coal company at the age of seventeen,that was in the forties,it played out,in other words it went out of business(ten years)I work for Leco Coal Company for thirty years and retired,with a healthy pension, I owe it all to United Mines Workers Union Now I am going repeat this one more time,so a moron like you can understand.When I started work in the coal mines,I had a hard hat,carbide light attach to my hat and metal knee pads for crawling .Later when the mines was unionise we switch over to electric lights.Here are the equipment that I used and safety procedures.

1:Rock dust( keeps explosion down,scab mines try to get around it by not using it,the results some time deadly)
2:Running augars: They have to have guards on them:Scabs mines don’t,very dangerous.
3:Rods and Bolts: this to bolt the top up to keep or prevent cave ins(Union length bolts:Three feet,scab mines usually twelve inches and allways people are getting hurt or kill.
4: Timber and bradishes

The three deadly gases and myths:

1:Methane
2:Carbon dioxide( bad air)
3:Carbon monoxide (very rare)

Myths

1: Canaries( TV myth)We used equipments,not birds.
2:All miners are illiterate( we had future doctors, state policemen and one I work with,briefly,the governor of Kentucky: Bert Galbert Combs.
3:No women works in mines:False,we had girls working their way, through college and became professional career women,in all walks of life.

1:Union mines are a safe enviorment to work in.
2:Scab mines unsafe and unpleasant to work in.

1:We are proud and very patriotic ( soldiers that serve in the arm forces,all four wars.Most are politically conservtive.
2:I am a moderate,I voted for Nixion,he was the only one I trusted.I thinking about voting for Dr.Ron Paul,if he runs.I like to see Ralph Nader as his running mate.That is it.

Now I’m confused. Are there two “coal miners” on here? I have nothing against real coal miners. They are some hard working –, just like loggers from my side of the country. My rant above was for the person on these blogs that uses the name coal miner and because he was bitchin about my conservative friends posts.

coal miner says:
February 6, 2010 at 3:53 pm

Harold,
Where do you and these right wing loonies come up with this horse(s***T)?Eyes,there is no proof to substantiate these statements.He is worse than that fake lawyer.I thought this thread was about the right to bear arms.I support that right.This guy belongs in a cracker house.
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For all the coal miners on this blog whether they are real or fake!! This post above, is the post I was ranting about!
1. The key words that tipped me off that he is not a conservative are when he said “right wing loonies” in the first sentence!!
2. Eyes wide open is also a liberal and coalminer is siding with her on disputing Harolds post
3. coalminer has made it clear he is a liberal on the other page titled “Liberty Alert Slamming the Supremes” where he also posts and totally blasts people with conservative opinions.

To coalminer the liberal:
1. Harold is not a loony. Follow any of the 3 links that Jeff H posted below Harolds post.
2. Ron Paul was my man in the last election, and I know his policies well, but he is the exact opposite of your man obama, so why pretend to be a conservative?

Scab miner,
First, if you check, you will find a source listed for that comment.
Second, what is a spinner?

Ummmmm? Yeah coal miner. If Ron Paul really is your man, how can you use words like “right wing loonies” That is liberal socialist talk!
I believe you done been caught with a knot in your tongue sonny.
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Joe H.
Are you the same Joe H. from the GB blog that I met last year? The Dylan posting here and I are the same two from over there.

stephaan,
thought I recognized the name!!! Welcome brother!!!

u are so right. tHE TAKING AWAY OF THE SECOND AMMENDMENT, is the first step to take over a country. Hitler did it in Germany.
also the OB want a youth army they are pushing. also a HITLER move. u can brain wash the young to kill there own.
on u tube look for GEORGIA disposable coffins, the GOV has . u will freak.
then googfle Denver airport murals. They tell the story of the one world order. This is n ot grafittie.
that mosque, they will need a place to heard christians to, to kill.
This is really bad, make sure your kids get what is going on.

PS. As a side note. This year because the ACLU is so against Christians and using the word Christmas etc etc, my email group all sent Christmas cards to the ACLU and of course we passed it all over the internet. I’m hoping the others did the same. Can’t you see the mailman delivering bags and bags of Christmas cards that they would have to open just in case it really was a donation.

This is a most worthy cause, Sally. I’m all for lighting a roaring fire under the ACLU’s posterior. If they were convinced that many donations were headed their way, they would feel ‘forced’ to open every letter.
And, since the ACLU would need help in getting all that easy money, they would need ‘help.’ ACORN, obummer’s pet group, is the logical choice for this great task. Of course, the ACLU may have to sacrifice a few bucks to get that help, and it may cause some friction between the two groups (tough). It would be like creating jobs (something that obummer just doesn’t get).
Jam it down their misgbegotten, America-hating throats. The ACLU needs to be seen for what it is. It is nothing less than an organized, nation-destroying cancer. Anyone who thinks the ACLU is a positive force never learned the difference between positive and negative.

Harold Olsen, you might want to add The HUMANE Society onto that list.

And PETA.In fact we are surrounded with hate groups who claim to be acting in our best interests.

The problem is that these groups pose as something they don’t even believe in. Their organizations are purely political with an agenda that provides not for the animals they use to promote their cause.

JC—Peta is a filthy organization. I cannot believe they would rather see dogs and cats killed, etc. instead of being in good homes!! My husband and I love our dogs and sometimes I think they have a better life than some children, which doesn’t seem right either. My husband used to hunt all the time, and he always trained his own dogs. He has NEVER ended up with a gun shy dog!! He has the patience of a Saint and truly enjoys his dogs. And the dogs love him. Now, with all his health issues, he can no longer hunt. He can’t do the walking anymore. And as silly as it may sound, NO ONE will get his guns or his dogs. He would fight tooth and toenail, pardon the slang expression. And if PETA comes to my town, I WILL protest. I know a lot of people and I would form a protest march, we’ll run them outta town!

The dog clubs I belong to are fully aware of Peta and the Humane Society. Peta has infiltrated dog shows and released dogs on the show site and guess what??!!Some were run over and killed. PETA believes the dogs should be free, whether they get killed or not. America is being bombarded with these nuts. Americans have to fight back, and put an end to these terrorist groups, ACLU, all of them. Yes, they are terrorists!! And I am sick and tired of them.

Claire, they’re actually out to kill every domestic pet they can get their filthy hands on.