There is rapidly growing support for just that. We are on the same page. Thanks for your comment.

Head today the unemployment rate is in reality more like 20% due to so many people having stopped looking for a job.

jc…you ignorance is showing very brightly. ‘The country has never been in worse shape’? You haven’t heard of the Great Depression? Read up on that time before you make another comment as dumb.

All politicians need to go back to where they came from, and exist like everyone else. I would hope they would realize a few things, but they won’t. They don’t care. They have plenty of money that they received from the taxpayers so they would no doubt live like movie stars.

“Funny” how that works.

True Robert – Good to see you back. Yep it now will be Chineese to learn, wonder which dialect – before it would have been Farsi but the Bank of Dubai a month or so ago, was in real financial trouble – just can’t trust those Arabs even with their own money! It was because of all the defaults on those mega billion dollar edifices they build in the desert ie a ski resort in a bubble and oh yea! don’t forget the islands that look like palm trees!!

We could write his speeches for him, couldn’t we?

Wouldn’t he be forced to speak the truth?

that’s all you can do,isn’t it?? Call people names rather than think and discuss…

Look in the mirror denisso. You think you are the perfect one here? Practice what you preach!

1.Certainly don’t listen to DaveH who’s main credential is hating the gov’t
2.Sorry,but Ayn Rand was a fiction writer and John Galt was a figment of her imagination. She also turned out to be a bit of a joke as a human..read about her.
3.Karen…DaveH is psychotic about his hatred of ‘liberals’ or ‘progressives’ or anyone who is not rightwing or libertarian. He’s deluded into being a pawn for the rightwing under the guise of ‘libertarianism’.
4. The real test would come if Muslims and Hindus and Wiccans tried to shove their religion into schools…watch the hypocrital Christians scream then. They only favor religion in public places because they are in the majority and they can dominate the others.
5.Dan…you have got to be a fool,w/ all due respect…a charge of treason for ‘malicious disregard of the founding fathers’??? Man alive, get a grip or go back to school or stop typing and read some good books..you have got to start thinking! I’m just glad that you’re an ally of the other crackpots here and not on my side.
6.Dee…isn’t it nice and refreshing to finally have a smart and caring president trying his best to fix the messes in the country?? Even if Obama can’t do anything w/ the righties obstructing everything,I’m still pleased to have such a groundbreaking president.
7.Sorry Mark,but it’s not too difficult to sound superior to some of the dimwits in our country. If more people had better education,then Obama wouldn’t appear superior
8.For the Repub controlled Supreme Court to decide that corporations are the same thing as human citizens and deserve the same degree of free speech is nothing but absurd and outrageous. I hear too,that it will open the door to foreign corporations that do biz here,and allow them to contribute to our candidates…ridiculous and maybe the end to any pretense of Democracy.
9.I agree that a lot of the hatred toward Obama is based on race…but,don’t forget that this same kind of hate was directed by these same people at Clinton and Hillary…a lot of it is just aping the hate from Limbaugh and Savage.
10.Claire…people can express their opinions,true. But when many on this site openly threaten violence against Obama and others and equate them to Hitler and Nazis,don’t you think that’s over the line? Our country has a recent history of assassinations,especially of Blacks and liberals
11.OK numbskull, so now you think that threats of violence against the president and people on this site is just ‘opinion’??
12You’re spewing the talking points of Limbaugh and Savage…I doubt you could name one rational reason why you hate Pelosi or Reid..you’re nothing but a rightwing reactionary who is doing the bidding of your corporate masters…think a little on your own,please.
13.George, why are you just repeating the same mantra as everyone else here? I’ve assumed you were smarter than some here,and reasoned a bit more,but you’re only echoing the same old cliches…evil ‘central gov’t’ and evil ‘progressives’ who essentially hate our country. You can do better George.
14.Michael…I’m past the juvenile stage of developement so i have no ‘messiahs’…you ,on the other hand,apparently worship at the altar of Limbaugh,Savage,Beck and O’Reilly,judging by your ‘talking points’ that are identical to their meaningless blab.
15.Michael…so,that’s interesting..you guys think that you came up w/ all the ‘conservative’ talking points and that Limbaugh and Beck follow you? You can’t imagine that they are leading you down a path that benefits them and they’re bank accts?
16.Fedup…you’ve got to be kidding,right?? ‘Conservatives don’t assassinate the character of those you disagree with’? Wow!! You better look around this site…your comment is ludicrous and laughable. Obama equated w/ Hitler? Obama is a fascist? Obama wants to kill off old people? Obama is a communist? Obama is not an American? Either you are blind or in total denial of what your party does in smearing their opposition. The Repub party is nothing but a party of character assasination and personal smears. Listen to your god Limbaugh…he smears absolutely everyone he disagrees with. Wake up man!!

JeffH – nice — funny how folks don’t realize what spews from their typing fingers.

Oh my God! What a tragedy. It’s really scary to think we may get that sort of government-run health system here.

I zeroed in on his last two sentences.

Another very big consideration is now more than ever before the Government has the technology to completely suppress us if they get out of control. So technological advancement would actually be a good reason to lessen the size and power of Government.

If the gov’t wanted to enslave us totally like some here think,they could have already done it…current technology and weapons in the hands of ‘the gov’t’ are plenty enough to do the job…so,what is Obama waiting for?? why hasn’t it happened yet? You’re just like the preachers declaring the end of the world every decade or so. Both are a sham designed to control people for political and monetary reasons..wake up folks!!

Mickey, while you may be fond of what he says about the “moral high ground” but when he fails miserably at speaking out in a timely fasion against the brutal suppression of the freedom-seeking Iranians, he cannot claim the moral high ground! When he stops apologizing for our great country and gets a backbone of conviction and commitment to our county’s values and principles, then we’ll see about his “moral ground.”

As for the economy and the military references, keep drinking the kool-aid.

Good thing they gave all that money to the banks to invest so they could prop up the markets and help you out. Seems to me like the markets are starting to tank now that they chose to repay.

The Nobel Peace Prize is a Farst!!!!!!! Obama and Jimmy Carter. Nothing about Reagan who got our hostiages back or torn down the Berlin Wall. The reason was because the world was afraid of him and they didn’t croaa the line. They know with Obama and Carter they can smear us all of the map and we will as shown bow down to them. I have never bowed down to anyone in my life and it is too late now to start that stupidity.

The Nobel foundation is now officially without one iota of integrity.
They are a joke.

Can sum it up in two words; Gore, Obama.

Sally,
There are many Blacks that understand that enslaving other people is not the road to Freedom.
A few that come to mind are Thomas Sowell, Alan Keyes, Charles Payne.

I absolutely agree. I love Alan Keyes as I have said before and would have voted for him in a heart beat. However, that was not my question, my questions is and still remains, where in the whole wide world was a black man or woman for that matter, put in power over that country, and that country survived and became prosperous or at least a democracy. That’s it. Just that simple answer.

I can’t think of any. I, too, would have voted for Alan Keyes. Our paper stopped carrying Thomas Sowell’s column and I really miss it. These are two black men who have some common sense. The problem is, since they don’t have that mentality of “You owe me”, blacks don’t listen to them.

American Citizen,

I get a conservative e-mail news letter almost every day & they have articles from Thomas Sowell. He’s one of my favorites. Go to OneNewsNow.com. They also have articles from Michelle Malkin & a lot of others.

The progressives are the Democrats.

Pick the one who is most likely to stand up to machine dems.

Why do we keep accepting mediocre? Let’s get back to our Founder’s Constitutional Limits. Neither of the major parties is going to take us there. It’s time to “through away our votes” until we build the Party of Principles to the size where the media can no longer ignore us. I have no doubt that Libertarians would succeed mightily if the general population was exposed to our concepts. Freedom is a simple solution to the complex mess which Government has gotten this country into.
I don’t know about the rest of you, but I am very resentful that I have to spend many days each year saving information and preparing forms just so the Government can take more of my money away to use to further suppress my Freedom.

Vote Libertarian – for Individual Liberty, for Individual Responsibility, for Free Markets, and for Limited Government:
http://libertarianparty.org/platform

I know, I misspelled Throw. Forgive me.

Daveh, been reading Cato stuff, please see http:www.cato-unbound.org/2009/04/06/patri-friedman/beyond-folk-activism

This article seems to say, it would require a major catastrophe in order for the Libertarians to get control. Do you agree?

You probably should also be recommending these two sites,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Libertarian_Party
both give ample info on the party.

Eyes, that may be true. But I’m Hoping and Dreaming that people will learn what Libertarians stand for before it is too late for our once-great country.

DaveH, sorry to say this, but I think eyes has a real crush on you.
Her one track mind searches for your comments, and one moment says she is considering a change to Libertarian and the next moment critisizing them. We do know that she has one confused mind.

look into what ron paul has to say. also rember that the bush basher was the highist bidder for the job

Jeff, no crush on Dave, just have an open mind, unlike you. I can admit that my party hasn’t been fiscally responsible for the past 12 years and I didn’t like it. So I changed. I would like to take the best from all three parties instead of acting like only one has all the answers, which they don’t!!! Can’t wait to see how the new Savior for the repubs Senator Brown handles all those Conservatives who had to have heard his opinion on abortion by now. He will be a one termer, as he deviated from the party line. Too bad. By the way Jeff, unlike you I will ask intelligent people for information, and research what the advise. I am here to learn, what are you here for?

Your response is typical for you , but not honest. You change more than the weather and will always continue to dance with the left. Your comments reflect your general unhappiness with yourself.

I think I prefer Bill Brady.

I think Bill is From your area. I had to do the early vote and he’s the one I chose. I think because he isn’t from the Chicago area he can distance himself from some of their influence.

jim—that is exactly why I chose him. He is from downstate Illinois, away from the machine. I think some of the Republicans candidates are kind of involved with the machine?? Don’t you think?? I have heard things, but it is not proven. However, sometimes where there’s smoke there is fire. So hopefully Brady will take it. I just don’t know, I kind of feel he won’t pull it off. I sure hope I am wrong.

Proft is the man. Brady is part of Cellini crew.

What we need is CHANGE!

“Yes we can, yes we can”

Bruce, how can you be so wrong??? Obama thinks the people understand him when he talks…he overestimates the intelligence of the majority of the public and actually thinks they understand the issues…you for instance,clearly don’t even understand that and you think he has some nefarious and devious plan when he speaks. He’s educated,that’s all. I use the 1/2 of the country who actually voted for a near moron(Bush),and most of the people on this site as the example of people w/ subpar reasoning ability who are resentful of an educated president.

You are speaking of his “free ride to law school” education I hope.
Now it turns out that an influential, radical black Muslim with close ties to the Saudi royal family and an outspoken opponent of Israel helped finance Obama’s law school education. Obama’s benefactor at the young age of 25 is Dr. Khalid Abdullah Tariq al-Mansour a/k/a Donald Warden.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_paid_for_obama%27s_education

Close ties to the Saudi Royal family like both Bushes and Cheny??

Norm,

Barry Soto is a parrot – thus he reads his Telie Prompters, making him look like a bobble head freak as he twist from side to side, he fails to look dead center, unless he is making that face of Pure arrogance as if he is the cat that ate the dog.

Lets not confuse this with having any brain power, Puppets do what ever the strings makes them do, nothing more nothing less.

Time, well he did pretty well today against the gang of 140 with no telepromter. Tried to watch it on Fox, but they cut it short to hear from critics. Had to go to CNN. But Cspan will probably carry it in full later. Speaking of Cspan, they are proof that the Repubs were involved in the process, they have tons of committee footage showing all the major Republicans at the tables. Of course at the end when it was apparent they would vote no on it anyway, the Dems’s didn’t bother to include them and Cspan has no footage of the last meeting.

I would have to say what I have seen of Barry Soto {from the event you noted} at best first year college level.

Again “Change Light of Heavy.”

Liberals will always believe the Sweet Sounding Lies over the reality of hard work, sacrifice, and calculated risk.

Hitler was a great orator too…and he didn’t even have a teleprompter.
Obama and his agenda are almost as evil.

Obviously you didn’t watch him using the teleprompter while speaking the Republican Winter Retreat. Every time he glances at the teleprompter he will do the mmm, uhh routine. The Republicans did a pretty good job on him, but as usual he did the classic political “double speak”. Never a direct answer and the usual excuses blaming just about everything he responded to on something or someone. Also, he used his usual I, me routine.
The bottom line is that he “ain’t gonna deviate” from his ideals.

Jeff, you’re so ridiculous…how the hell would Obama answer questions from the gang of Repubs and use a teleprompter??You’re a joke w/ your blind hatred. All presidents when giving long speeches use teleprompters.How you haters of Obama can dare to criticize Obama after voting in and supporting Shrub,who could barely speak,let alone think,is more than gall..it’s oxymoronic and idiotic. Go ahead,look it up.

being a great talker is good but action speaks more that words don,t tell me you know what i need and say if i dissagree you will get in my face cause i am the president and i can do no wrong [in the eyes of the world] people of the world love me but i say the american voters put you in office and will vote you out for not hearing them and bush is not the president now obama is and has been for over a year just incase you for got

How in the heck can anything get done when they won’t work together to accomplish anything??? As a taxpayer, I despise paying them their salaries for doing nothing. They are working for us–all of them. It is nothing but game-playing, waiting for the next election. The Republicans don’t want the Democrats to accomplish any good for America, so they can be elected. Then when they are elected, the Democrats will do the game-playing. It is a vicious cycle.

I would gladly pay them for doing “nothing”. It’s the “something” they do that has gotten this country into the trouble it’s in.
The voluntary private sector can address our needs and interests far better than the Government can.

DaveH–Aha!! another good comeback. I see your point.

Right at the moment, you can’t blame repubs in Senate especially for anything as because of their numbers couldn’t pass a turtle – the demos are fighting between themselves which I am thankful at the moment because, maybe just maybe no more monies will be spent!!! Ho Ho Ho. I tried to find the article that I had saved showing what a billion dollars really is and what a trillion dollars really looks like put into prospective. I wanted to send it to Obama. They fling these numbers around like they are 1.25. Whew!!!!

When obama speaks, in the next sentence he contradicts himself so you are right that we can understand what he is saying. His problem is he lies and than remember his lefties and then contradicts himself in the next sentence. At least you always knew where Bush stood. Bho’s stradegy is to contradict himself, so when he is done with his speech he did not say anything that is good for our country. Behind closed doors then he says, disregard what I said to the American people, they were just word, just politics.

minnie, you are so right. He lies. I truly think he believes in his own lies at the time, but quickly forgets what he said. That is why he has to have the teleprompter to remind him of his lies. He tries to sound like a preacher. In actuality that is what he is doing to us, preaching his lies and garbage and we are supposed to believe and blindly follow.

Jana,

You have a gigantic AMEN from me on that!

Sorry, but it’s you people who lie and manipulate the facts and truth.If you were in a room w/ Obama and had to speak you would cower in fear and utter mindlessnes.

Firstly, you should do something about your English girl, because it’s like you even flunked third grade. Secondly if you say the President contradicts himself consistently during his speeches, you should, in all fairness, come up with at least one clear example. But all you do is bothering us with a cheap allegation every nine year old can produce. Go get yourself some real and effective education, ma’am.

Frederick H, reread your comment, then apologize for not being the English scholar you think you are.

Frederick H,

You need to practice what you preach or at least proof read before you start telling someone how uneducated THEY are for their grammar or spelling. It looses the “dramatic effect” when you make mistakes while correcting others!

Frederick H,
I see your pain through the words that you write. Right now, today, you should search, Yuri Bezmenov for relief from the agony that beseaches you. After reading his literature and watching his videos you will at last know peace by finding out how you have been victimized by the forces of government socialistic indoctrination. You will at last be released from the treachery of relentlessly parroting the left wing communist diatribe that was drilled into your head while you were to young to no better. I do hope you will do this today so that you may avoid drowning in the water that the false messiah walks on.

Norm . . . Barry is speaking over HIS OWN HEAD!!!

Dale
I’ve seen him speak many times, and he is clear, concise and knowledgable. He answers questions very well also. You may not like what he says, and you have that right, but to continue with the teleprompter nonsense is rediculous. Now who do you think is programming the teleprompter, in real time yet?
Take a look at a farmboy Bush speech some time.

Norm,

Do you even know what a progressive is?

Part of why these people and others hate Obama so much is precisely that he is educated and sounds intelligent,unlike Shrub who sounded dumb enough to be a friend of theirs. Of course part of Bush’s good ole boy demeanor was fake,done for political reasons, though the good ole boys didn’t have the wherewithal to figure that out. they’re still clueless and think that he would actually have a beer w/ them..what a joke.

Jana, you are wrong, he has a freeze on pay increases for three years. The raises you see are from Bush. He authorized a 3.9% increase for government workers for 2009. Nothing he could do about that it was from 2008 budget.

Your are correct on this. Hopefully more pay freezes will follow.

President Barack Obama has pledged to freeze the salaries of about 120 staffers in his administration who make more than $100,000 per year, saving the government about $443,000 next year, a data analysis shows.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/washingtonpostinvestigations/2009/01/_thanks_to_dan_froomkins.html
That ought to make the rest of the country thank him.

During a recession/depression,it is counterproductive to cut gov’t spending…the private sector is already cutting back and consumers are not spending like they normally would. If the gov’t,states included,curtail spending then the economy stagnates for yrs. Obama is freezing some facets of gov’t for political reasons,not because it will help the recession…luckily,he isn’t freezing enough to hurt much. Focusing too much on spending will drag out the recession. What do people think will restart the economy if the gov’t doesn’t help?? Magic??

There are two types of people in this country – those that actually work and produce something that can be resold and keep the economy going and those that are government employees and entitlement recipients. The government employees produce nothing for the GNP, they just cost us money like the entitlement people. Most all economists will agree that when there is 50% of the people (workers in private industry) supporting the other 50% (government workers and entitlement recipients) we are basically bankrupt and cannot continue. You try and can skew those facts anyway you want but they are pretty cut and dried. Just where do you think we are at this point?

If I all the bailout money had gone back to the taxpayers we would have more spending and jobs. It’s just that simple. Instead our government instituted failed programs that only spurred a portion of the economy for a very short time (cash for clunkers is a good example – it got some cars sold, got some older cars off the road, put people into debt for the new car and ultimately went away and the dealers are back where they started from). If you take and take and take from people they quit working because what is the point? There are immigrants who are collecting more SS money than my mother who worked her entire life and paid into the system. There are immigrants and illegals living in government subsidized housing, I could go on an on, but I’ll spare you because you really never answer me anyway. Maybe because you can’t?

Meteor…modern capitalism is not as simple as you seem to think. You would do well to read some economics.

Fair?? NO,and totally wrong. Just like 9/11, the economic collapse came UNDER CHENY/BUSH,after 7 yrs of their presidency and 6 yrs of Repub Congressional control. And you think gicing the Dems 75% of the blame is fair?? The only fair thing is to note that most economists,though not all,thought that we had finally done away w/ the risk of a meltdown in our economy. Alan Greenspan,a libertarian and follower of Ayn Rand,amazingly, thought that we now had a new model of capitalism that was invulnerable to collapse…Ayn Rand should now be firmly and finally consigned to the trash can.

Denniso – not you’ve made me really mad! I love Ayn Rand and think we should all study her a bit more. I wish John Galt would return and start bleeding off all the great minds and innovators in this country so we could see what will happen when people move from this country or just quit working and collecting like you advocate. Whose going to pay for the welfare state and create jobs then? Lest you think I am uncaring, I do spend a lot of time doing charity work and give a money to charitable causes. I just have a problem with the government handing out my money in irresponsible and unethical ways.

Sorry,but Ayn Rand was a fiction writer and John Galt was a figment of her imagination. She also turned out to be a bit of a joke as a human..read about her.

Meteorlady – I think Ayn Rand was writing about folks like your “critic” below your comment —- when she wrote Atlas Shrugged

Curtis – are you out there seeing who is bashing Ms. Rand’s ideas? Doesn’t appear to be the “right” as you thought it would be —- hmmm.

Ok Norm, lets hear your stats. Personally, I would tend to agree with Vic but I’m open for your comments and statistics as well.

You will never get any stats from him – because he doesn’t have any or know where to go find the real truth!!

Do any of us find the real truth about politics and politicians?? The people that do the writing already have their minds made up about who they prefer.

Here’s a little truth mixed with some commentary:
Cafferty on Pelosi: “What a Horrible woman she is”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fNfzNqwaXk
These socialist don’t give a good God damn about America.

Sally

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/president/index.html

Here’s mine where’s yours?

5:13 p.m. EST, Nov 17 ’08President Full results »
Earth to Norm try current poll. Obama’s approval rating, according to a Gallup Poll has plummeted from 68% in Feb. 2009 to 47% in Dec. 2009.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx

Norm, this was the date of your link, find something more current for the real facts, not your liberal past facts.
5:13 p.m. EST, Nov 17 ‘08President Full results »
Why don’t you link up to reality, The Rassmussen’s daily tracking poll dated 1/31/2010 or is this just another righty lie.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Norm,
Let me guess, you have a problem with the sexual deviants part of Victor’s comment, right?

Michael J.
I have a problem with lies.

Norm, you NEVER respond with any facts. As a paid liberal gutter mouth, you, at least, could back up some of your parroted comments when you are called out. Forgot though, you liberal smacks won’t fight, you turn tail and run.

JeffH

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/president/index.html

I am also not a liberal, and I am not being paid by anybody, unfortunatly. Politically I am a centrist. Your so twisted to the right that you would not understand.

Norm, If you believe what you just stated, your “Pinnochio” nose is so far up Obamas brown river of krap because you have lied to yourself.

Victor Barney;—-All I have to say to you is, YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!

Sorry Victor, I meant that Norman guy.

David, sorry he is correct, “sexual deviates” those happy folks!!! They are all mostly democrates, cause we conservatives want them back in the closet.

Sally
You neocoms, pray, get reborn, and continue along your merry way and sometimes gay way.

Norm, that is an oxyimoron. One cannot be “reborn” and gay. Doesn’t work.

Sally
Did you forget Ted Haggard? Then there is that Episcopal bishop, I forgot his name.

I believe both parties have a few so-called sexual deviants.

Hi Claire, I believe you are correct. They are equal opportunity Sexual deviants.

I agree, “Sexual Deviants” is a little strong. Perhaps “Aberrations of Nature” is more appropriate? I really don’t care about one’s personal choices in life, its none of my business. But when they are screaming at me about “their rights” I sort of wish them a speedy trip to hell. We are supposed to have the same rights, all of us. I don’t flaunt my sexuality in public, neither does my wife and neither should they. I’m sick of the agenda for which these people are willingly used…the one that destroys all of our rights.

Very well stated JC. I am just not that prolific with words.

I have a few freinds that voted for Barry Soto, But have now “changed” their minds about him, and will not vote for him and thank God many of my friends from Califorinia will not be voting for the Speaker of the House when she comes up again.

But the facts are the 08 ellection you had ZERO choice, it was; change light or heavy, what one would you pick?

Folks I has said this now contless times, in 1913 the Constitution was shot in the heart, by the 1930′s it was just about dead dead, by 2008 it is little more than Hemp paper with some black ink on it.

So true Time.

It’s time to revitalize our sacred document. By whatever means necessary.

Yes, yes. If only that could be done. Unfortunately, I don’t see how. Right now the first priority has to be to educate our people to the agenda of the progressives and stop them where ever we can. Rolling back the damage they’ve done will take a lot longer, but it has to start here and now, or we won’t get another chance.

This is true boe. Me also, however I do know of only one that voted for Obummer and that is my brother and sister in law but what can you expect from a Union worker that has never been out of his home town ever in Ohio. They are still of the opinion that “Demos are for the working man and Rep are for the Rich” Don’t listen to the news you might have to think!!. Even my daughter, her husband, and my sister who have been dyed in the wood Democrats, didn’t vote for Obummer. You are also so right Mr. Time!!!

Some of these people have truly gone off the edge…it would be funny if it weren’t a human tragedy and dangerous to the survival of our country. They’re listening to Limbaugh too much.