No your incorrect…. I did read that as well.
He was making a point that the relief effort taking place by the military IS funded by tax dollars to the political gain of obama.
And any donation you make to the government will be used also for thier gain…. I believe this is what he is saying..

Don’t waste your time trying to talk sense to Denniso. (words removed for offensive content).

Melting down DaveH???

Ragg…try reading it again,this time w/o a biased mind.

Raggs, to quote your God Rush, “Besides we’ve already donated to Haiti, it’s called US income tax”. He is inferring that we don’t need to donate, as we already have. Gee, Raggs, after Katrina, other countries sent this country money. That’s what humanity does for each other.

Wow I don’t even have to read it you just quoted but can’t figure out what he meant. What he meant is we are allready donating through the Govt. by pay taxes so don’t do that donate through charity were you will get more for your buck. Eye wide close please explain to me one program that the govt. runs that works well and is not in black hole that private enterprise could not do a better job with their eyes closed?

Down Boy!

Video on that subject:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6y2niJpTpGA&feature=PlayList&p=189BB19DFFA549E5&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=11

You actually agree w/ that ditto head Jeane?? That says much about your real views…DaveH libertarian, no, DaveH uncompassionate,partisan, rightwinger.

Denniso…you are ignorant and in evil liberal land. This administration has spent more than all the president’s combined in one year. They are spending hard working tax payers money who are struggling to keep up their mortgage payment and feed their families. People will donate of their own accord and donate through proper channels like the Red Cross. It doesn’t matter what was done in the past, WE ARE BROKE!!! The government can’t keep spending money that isn’t there. Were you not taught to be accountable and trustworthy? WAKE-UP! Haiti would have been much better prepared to handle this devastating blast had their corrupt government spent the billions of aide on the people on not on self gain! It is the people that make countries great, NOT THE GOVERNMENT who become greedy, corrupt and self empowering.

Air…’evil liberal land’??? Amazing!! Your comment is too absurd to spend any time on,but it would help if you got some facts straight…’this prez has spent more in one year than all the presidents combined’??? Why don’t you think a little or look up some actual info before you run your mouth? Is it because you ‘learned’ at the feet of your fanatic fat cat Limbaugh??

You are not compassionate Denniso. Compassion is giving your own time and money. What you advocate (giving other peoples’ time and money) is just plain Theft.

Anybody who has read your countless personal attacks knows what kind of person you really are. And it isn’t compassionate.

Denniso…check this link out on spending comparisons of Bush and Obama and the past 25 years of economic policy. I doubt it will do much good since you don’t seem to have an open mind when it comes Obama and this current administration but none the less here it is and it’s not from Rush

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Budget/bg2249.cfm

Air…I don’t usually respond to people who directly call me ignorant..in your case,i’ll make an exception. Your comment,’Obama has spent more in one year than all the other presidents combined’,is poorly written I guess. If you mean that Obama has spent more than any other prez in the first year, maybe. But,you want to forget that we have had the biggest economic collapse since ’29. Bush also spent billions trying to stop the collapse and Obama continued…almost every economist alive,around the world,agrees that we had to pour $$ into the economic hole to prevent the largest depression ever in the history of capitalism. The spiral down has stopped and we are now stable..the market is up by over 60% from it’s low point and people w/ pensions and retirement in the market are not panicked,like everyone was a yr ago. If you want to sit around and wait for the ‘market’ to recover on it’s own,move back to 1929. Hoover’s your man.

He didn’t directly call you ignorant, Denniso. If you weren’t, you would know that.

Are you just blind or is there more to your select vision??

denniso, the shoe must fit, because you sure want to wear it.

Dave, I too wonder if you are going blind. Air, stated Denniso, you are ignorant and live in evil liberal land… you need to read the previous posts.

Denniso, You complain about a lack of compassion while being a member of the compassionless party. How much compassion is required to abort a fetus? How much compassion is needed to euthanize the infirmed elderly?

And did I mention, you are ignorant too.

Michael, just because people don’t belong to the radical right, doesn’t mean that they condone abortions. Generalizing about topics and people, is just that generalizing. Guess what the majority of Dems are Catholics who don’t believe in abortions, so why don’t you just stop trying to piegon hole people so that you can make those irrational comments about the “scary Liberals”? Oh, that’s right, you people don’t even consider the Catholics, Christians do you? They are the largest Christian group in the US, so maybe, just maybe you should reconsider your Republican talking points.

EwO, Nice to hear from you again. Are you Catholic?

Michael in several posts over the months she claims to be Baptist.

Michael, I agree. It is the Democrat Party that wants to abort these innocent babies. Good for you. Socialists is what they have become, and Progressives. YUK.

Just so you know,MichaelJay…you think you know what party I belong to and you think you can state what I believe in from my arguments on issues..you don’t know,mostly because I’m not as simple as some of your bretheren. Life is a little more complex than that and some minds are as well.

Liberty, sorry darling, but I have never claimed to be a Baptist. Many times I have referred to the Baptist faith, my husband is one of those, but I am not. Here is a family breakdown. Father-Lutheran, Mother-Presbytarian, Sister-Baptist, Step brother- Jewish, Stepfather-Jewish, Episcopalian, finally Catholic, Step brother-Atheist, Stepsister-Mormon, First Husband -Methodist. After I wrote this, I started laughing, my family is quite diverse. Prior to parents divorce we were Lutherans. Then entire family went in search of religious knowledge and each picked something different or took their husband or wifes religion. This is probably why I don’t believe that one specific religous sect can claim to be “The ONE” true religion. Most of those above are practicing Christians who truly live as Christians. We are tolerant of each other and never claim that we are the chosen religion. We all found our way to Christ and that is what is important. Laughing out loud, we really represent the United States diversity during the Holidays. My mother had a sign that said Christians gather here, the umbrella of Christianity covers us all.

Ewo,
Nobody’s perfect. Thanx for the long winded reply. hope your finger didn’t cramp.

Michael…I assume you supported the illegal invasion of Iraq. So you supported the ‘compassionate conservative’ in bombing little kids and pregnant women and old men and in total 100,000 or more civilians. How much ‘compassion’ does it take to burn little kids alive for a fraud of a war??
Your comment about euthanizing the elderly is just dumb..
No one favors abortion,what they favor is leaving it up to the woman and her doctor…you want a police state to track women down and jail doctors?? Oh yeah, you want larger gov’t and more laws and regulations and more police action,because you’re a ‘compassionate conservative’….right,but that’s OK w/ you because it’s not your body you want to control,it’s only women’s.

Michael, yea, where are you on the innocents who were killed daily, due to that illegal and non necessary war with Iraq? Don’t their lives matter?

eyes – sorry if I’m mistaken – could have been one of your many aliases that claimed Baptist. But you should know what you are far better than I and looking back at your posts in Sept. and October when you told us the many stories of you would be silly.

Denniso, In answer to your Query:

No one person decided to invade Iraq. Elements of both parties openly supported the war. As a matter of fact, the vast majority of Democrats, Republicans and the international itelligence community beleived that Saddam Hussein had WMD, was harboring Al Qaeda and needed to be dealt with.

On the subject of abortion, I’ll ask you another way. Do you think Dr. Tiller was a compassionate individual having had the blood on his hands from thousands of aborted fetus? Did he not kill little babies for money?

And letting the elderly die because government beuracrats decide they are no longer economically servicable or nonproductive to the colective is equivelant to euthanasia.

And I never called you simple, I beleive you are an infinately complex Transocialist.

Let’s bring all the Haitians to the US and make them census takers. Then they could join acorn and seiu and give them the right to vote. This way, Nov 2010 may not be a disaster.

12,500 troop left last night to protect Haitians at Obama’s request, and Gen. McCrystal couldn’t get an answer for months on troops that were needed in Afghanistan. This Obama dude has his priorities all screwed up. Ya think? I guess American lives aren’t as valuable to protect as the poor Haitians. Just more smoke and mirrors by Obama to try and take the heat off of the HCR mess.

JeffH, nobody told me they were going to find IED’s buried in the road, or that bombs would be dropping on them in Haiti. Is there a war going on in Haiti? Do they have terrorists wanting to kill US soldiers there? Peace keeping mission compared to trained terrorists? Certainly isn’t apples to apples. You guys are getting desperate trying to find more things to critize. Sad, very funny and sad.

The truth of the matter is that you and your Troll Brigade is starting to thin out although you continue to grasp the same straws. You are a traitor and a leftist liberal hack. Rush rules, Obama sucks!

Jeff, as usual when someone can’t refute or argue a point, they immediately digress to acting like children and start name calling. Been back a couple of days, and guess what, you are the only one to start the name calling. It is an immediate tip off that you can’t control yourself. Relax Jeff, this is only a discussion, no one is trying to kill you.

Bite me!

Only people who are blinded by the fury at the trough would pay any attention at all to what you have to say Denniso.

DaveH; I can’t believe that knucklehead Denniso is still around. Don’t even pay atttention to his replies. As far as I’m concerned, your opinion counts and whether I agree or disagree with it, that’s your right to voice it and I respect that right. Keep on trucking and ignore that knucklehead.

I might remind you that it is really denniso.

Robert, who made you judge and jury? So, Dave has the right to his opinions, but another American, doesn’t have that right, or deserves respect? TOTALITARIAN, is a word that describes your beliefs. Get those Brown Shirts ready!!!!

Denniso…curious if you work and pay taxes?

Airhead…You could read what I’ve posted for the past couple months if you’re actually ‘curious’…but that’s like work,so probably won’t happen. DaveH is clueless and wants to raise personal issues that are pointless in a debate..but that’s what you people do,isn’t it.

You shouldn’t spew so much at Rush, you have your own venom…people can point fingers and name call all they want to…the fact is we’re broke so get over yourself

denniso, all that i have seen of your articles is a lot of hot air. Don’t have to go back and read, they are all the same, like you idiotic

denniso, a true hater that still will pull the race card out at any time. You are finished like burnt toast! Give it up and leave the dark side. The truth will set you free.

As I have said before Denniso, you are one sick puppy. I pity your wife or husband.

Oh boy,more personal ranting from the geniuses above. You can’t support an argument so you resort to this?? Grow up.

Denniso, daveH was not trying to be funny when he said, “I pity your wife or husband”, it’s just that your name is like a pair of Guess Jeans, it’s hard to tell.

You guys are SO clever…now I know how you come to your intellectual conclusions…

Limbaugh is always ‘upset’,because that’s how he gets rich..it’s part of his phoney show. He was ‘upset’ long before Obama was elected..he impresses his sheep w/ his hollow anger..he’s one of the super rich living off of the foolish peasants who adore him as a god.

come on DaveH,you’ve got to be smarter than that…Obama is pushing policies that SOME people like and that SOME people don’t like, just the way it always works. Did your buddies Cheny/Bush only push policies that EVERYONE liked?? Don’t think so…

Curtis – I don’t always agree with you, I don’t always disagree with you and on this one – I’m with you. Sounds like “Sinners in the hands of an angry God” logic to me.

This is the definition, per Merriam-Webster, of the word ‘jealous’…

Main Entry: jeal·ous
Pronunciation: \ˈje-ləs\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English jelous, from Anglo-French gelus, from Vulgar Latin *zelosus, from Late Latin zelus zeal — more at zeal
Date: 13th century
1 a : intolerant of rivalry or unfaithfulness b : disposed to suspect rivalry or unfaithfulness
2 : hostile toward a rival or one believed to enjoy an advantage
3 : vigilant in guarding a possession
— jeal·ous·ly adverb
— jeal·ous·ness noun

In this case, the application of the word ‘jealous’ as in applying towards a ‘jealous God’ would be appropriate. God is jealous of the use of Voodooism in Haiti… it is a predominant religion, a aberrant version of Christianity. It is black magic mixed with Christianity… an unpure religion. Look at Katrina/Rita… again, hitting a region that is predominant in using Voodooism, also. Look at the tsunamis that hit the countries bordering the Indian Ocean… predominantly muslim and hindu. God is using these natural disasters (and YES, God uses nature to his advantage!) to bring people to their knees, and make them look to Him for salvation, not to mankind, and other false gods.

Curtis,I wouldn’t have said it better. Thank you.

Robin…if your God is a jealous god and kills and maims and tortures babies and little kids and pregnant women and old men, I suggest you need to find a better god..maybe one that is loving and helpful and feeling for all life on earth,no matter the country or race or income.Your god sounds a bit like the devil to me.

Denniso, are you describing Haiti or Obamacare?

Mike…Obamacare,Hillarycare…can’t you rightwingers use real words??Is it an education issue?

Yes Denniso, I am educated. You however, were indoctrinated.

No Sally, you are prejudiced. Sorry.

No Curtis I am not prejudice at all. I have many many black friends and business associates. I just call a spade a spade. I lived in Trinidad for a spell/ This Island had been a very prosperous island however, after Britain gave them their freedom, it went downhill fast. They threw out the US Navy which really supported the country. When we were there, the electricity was off usually every afternoon, telephones were only on for a couple of hours aday, hadn’t had any potatoes or onions for three months. However, the Governor I think he was called, entertained the President of China making deals for their oil. I still am asking anyone to please inform me of a country that has been run by a black man that has been up and coming.

Sally… Did you just claim to have many Black friends and then follow-up with “I just call a spade a spade.”? Was that irony or a Freudian slip?
Anyway, you want “up-and-coming” countries run by a Black leader? There’s Equatorial Guinea, ranked as having the #43 GDP in the world.
Gabon, ranked #79 in GDP, “[is] one of the most prosperous countries in the region, with the highest HDI (Human Development Index) in Sub-Saharan Africa.”
Botswana, with the #80 ranked GDP “…the World Bank cites Botswana as one of the world’s great development success stories.”
There you go, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon and Botswana.

Curtis – I found this info and there’s quite a bit out there on the old old saying calling a spade a spade:
“The exact origin is uncertain; the playwright Menander, in a fragment, said “I call a fig a fig, a spade a spade,” but Lucian attributes the phrase to Aristophanes. Later, Plutarch notes that “The Macedonians are a rude and clownish people who call a spade a spade.” (It is worth noting that the Greek word translated as “spade” seems actually to mean something like “bowl” or “trough”; the “spade” may be based on a Renaissance mistranslation. In this case the original expression was “to call a bowl a bowl,” and thus the “spade” expression is “only” 500, rather than 2,500, years old.)”
Unfortunately it’s another one of those words/sayings that has become tainted like gay and faggot – words are the source of much misunderstanding when they are changed over the years.

Hey L-Train! Thanks for the lesson, I love words and I’m always fascinated about their origins. As for my comments above, it was just another cheap stab at humor.
But while we’re on the topic of words and how their meanings evolve over time, I think that’s my problem with the bible. Great stories, but how a lot of it relates to the modern world and how the words in it have taken on new meanings over the years… well it’s just NOT something to base a government or its policies on. Know what I mean?
AND my point still stands, there are developing countries in the world with competent black leaders.

Sally, I hate to hurt your feelings, but they showed the President of the Dominican Republic on cable, and he is black. If you knew the history of the two countries, you would understand that the races are mixed in both those countries. And so what if he is a black man. You seem to be stating that a black man can’t run a country. Shall we count all the whites who have failed at running a country?

Curtis – I do agree, throughout history there has been a good black leader or two or three or more – so I’m not sure why that comment was said.

Hello Sally, I read your post with interest and decided it was time to mention that this will be the second time we have bailed Haiti out. This time we are there for humanitarian reasons to releive the suffering caused by a natural disaster. The first time we helped was to put an end to man made anarchy that existed in 1914.
Not unlike Haiti’s now day leaders, Haiti back then was just as full of thieves who ruled without mercy or compassion. In 1915 the Americans came in and ended the anarchy, installed the legitimate leader, built roads, schools and hospitals like we always do. Then we left in 1934 with out being thrown out. A few years later Haiti again was in a state of anarchy as if we had never been there.

Hey Norm? If Obama jumped off that bridge in Brooklyn would you follow him? I know the answer as do most on this site.

If Obama jumped off that bridge I’d try to get it named a national monument with a plaque stating: “On this spot the tyranny of the Obama regime ended.”

You two are only fools babbling…

Hey denniso, you’d be jumping right along with Norm and the rest of the flock.

jeffH,
We can only pray brother, we can only pray!!!!

Reply to DaveH

What they sacrificed? All too many wealthy got their wealth anyway and anyhow they could, cheating, stealing, killing, cheap labour. I do admire those who worked fairly and got wealthy through hard work and sacrifice, but as one who watched a white man get filthy rich on the king salomn runs, and very cheap Eskimo labour, I often wonder about the other fithy rich through the cheap labour of the Native people of any country. And to top it off the Eskimos considered themselves lucky for what little money they were paid.

Winnie,
There no doubt are evil men in business as in all walks of life including the Government. But that is why we have juries of our peers when we are accused of crimes. Our forefathers knew how casually the accused could be judged by others.
I have always been thankful to get employment from the people who had what it took to start their own companies and make them successful. Did anybody put a gun to your peoples’ heads and make them work for those low wages? Did anybody stop them from creating their own companies? The only people I know that could use that kind of force are Government people.

Hi Winnie…most people who get extremely wealthy do so on the backs of underpaid workers somewhere along the way. That being the case,most extreme fortunes are inherently immoral and and these pretend Christians have to live in denial that the Jesus they profess to love would condemn that immorality.
Is it very cold now in Canada?

Denniso, by extreme fortunes you must be thinking of say, the Rockefeller’s, or maybe Bill Gates?

Michael…I don’t care whose extreme fortune it is,if you look at the people who helped build it under the billionaire you will find many who are under paid yet do their work faithfully. I’m not saying the billionaire can’t keep his $$,but how moral ,or Christian,is it to have workers who struggle financially helping to create fortunes for others? Any adult who works in this wealthy country should be paid a decent wage…it’s a scandal that isn’t the case in the 21st century.

denniso,
How different you speak today!! just a few scant days ago you said that the way he made his fortune was the American way!!! Remember???

and unions are killing the country right w/out them everyone would be treated the way the eskimos were

Trust no one, yet you beleive in Unions? Go figger?
Speaking of Eskimos, Did ya ever hear that one about the Eskimo who pulled into the gas station on his snowmobile? That dern thang was a spittin and a sputterin, smokin and left a puddle a oil on the ground underneath it.
So the Eskimo went inside ta fetch the mechanic who said, well lest see, sounds like the plugs er fowled, engines smokin and looks like ya blown a seal. Then the Eskimo replied, No, that just frost on mustache.
Heh… Heh… Heh… Sarah Palin told me that while she was a breast feedin me. Next thang I new, the alarm went off, and I woke up.

Michael,
I agree. I’m all for charity by willing participants (and there are many). However, for the Government to borrow money from future taxpayers to give to others is not charity but theft. It is not their money to give. The Government’s role should simply be to encourage others to donate time and money to Haiti.
I know I would like to help. And there are millions more in this country who also would like to help. But, as Rush said, they should give their money to the appropriate private charities that are known to be efficient with their donations.

DaveH, I couldn’t agree with you more. I also heard Rush’s take on donating through “WhiteHouse.org” and agree with what he said 100%.

Whenever the liberal media says something about Rush, I go to his site to read the transcripts of his radio show for that day. I used to be able to listen to his program, but for some reason can no longer get the station to come in. I get snatches of it if I’m in the car. In any case, I find the liberals either misquote him or take it out of context to make it seem as though he meant something he didn’t.

Raggs,
Please re-read Jimmy’s comment. He is not blaming America in any way. He is blaming the Haitians’ lack of Economic Freedom. Look here to see Haiti’s economic freedom rating:
http://www.heritage.org/index/Ranking.aspx

Sorry Jimmy…I must have read something in you post that you didn’t say.

Sorry, he IS blaming America.

Tell me how?

Valverde,

He isn’t blaming America, I believe that it is called a comparison. He is saying that America has a better economy & infrastructure than Haiti and that’s why the tragedy in Haiti is worse than it would be if it happened here in America. There was no blame laid on anyone it was just a statement of fact and if it was anything, he aggrandized America for being such a great country.

Valverde, go to the site that he showed, the capitalist something or other. It tells there that capitalism does save lives and why they think so. I agree by the way.

Harold,
He’s not clueless. It just takes a while to decide what answer he is going to give (anything but the truth).

I laugh every time Gibbs gives a press conference or responds to a question.

coal minor,
Don’t Worry nobody “thinks” that about you!!!! All doubt has been removed!!!!

Pat Robertson’s comments do not reflect most Christian because they don’t understand the ways of God. Was this a horrible thing? Yes. Have the people embraced Witchcraft which is an affront to the Lord? Yes. Judgment did fall on the country because of sin. However most Christians see Judgment as the end of God’s action. The intent of Judgment is and always has been RESTORATION.
Most people cannot reconcile the Love of God and wrath of God and embrace one or the other. God is both and they are held in a perfect Holy balance. The account of Noah being the best example. God restored humanity after the flood back to a right relationship with Him. Haiti will now experience RESTORATION when they turn from Withcraft.

IM GLAD THERE ARE OTHERS WHO SEE GOD’S GOODNESS IN EVERTHING. THE NATURAL MIND CANNOT PERCIEVE THESE THINGS.

Perhaps yours can’t. Don’t presume to “know” what other peoples natural minds can conceive or understand. Throw out all that crap you “know” because of your religious beliefs, or your “holy” books, and it’s quite possible you may tie into knowledge of spirtual things that your priests wish to keep hidden from you.
Does the word “occult” cause you fear? Guess what? “Occult” means nothing mre than “hidden”. When one plays hide-and-seek, doesn’t one search out the hidden—yet in life we are cautioned by the priests not to look. They’ve even put such passages in their “holy” teachings! And that refers to ALL of the religions of the world—Christian, Hindu, or whatever!

phred,
Then by your definition O-man has an occult administration!!!!

Your sort of fairy tale,contradictory and illogical ‘God’,simply does not exist. There is more evidence for a ‘devil’ being in control than there is for a kind,loving,compassionate ‘God’. Look around you and open your eyes and mind.

Denniso, there you go talking about something you know nothing about, spend some time reading the most important book of all time it will be good for your soul.

Denniso I agree with you. I see a great deal of EVIL in the World. I work in Corrections and see the results of sin everyday. But the reality of Satan does not nulify the reality of Jesus and yes I believe He is God. The one thing I respect about you Denniso is your rebelious and contrary attitude. It is consistant across the board. Too bad its not a constructive rebellion against evil. You will make a great Evangelist someday.

denniso,

You right,there is no scintific or historical evidence that God or Christ ever existed.The hebrew characters are myths borrowed from long dead and forgotten religions,matter a fact some are exact copies.The bible is not only inaccurate but a carbon copied fraud.It has been proven false time and time again. John Divine and Saint Paul the founder of Christanity are the only two men that historians found, existed.They came from the school of mysteries.You can check it out on the internet or order the book(deceptions and Myths of the Bible.)by LLoyd M. Graham.It is loaded with imformation.

To all you non believers. I really feel sorry for you and will pray that you see the light. However, the proof will be in the pudding, when in the vear very near future all believers will be snatched from the earth to meet their Lord Jesus in the Sky and you will be left behind to face the worst 7 years in history called the tribulation.

denniso, and coal miner, you 2 need to stock up on HOT DOGS, because where you 2 are going to spend eternity, they will taste good.
Better reconsider, and start reading the number 1 selling book of all times.

Pillar8…I have fought ‘evil’ my whole life..a person doesn’t have to believe in any particular creed to know what is right and wrong and what is evil. If people want a God in their life,that’s fine,but don’t pretend that God cares about us specifically or the world in general and does anything about it…if that were true,the world would look very different.

Pillar8… I asked this on a previous post, but no one got back to me, so I figured I’d ask again. If all people on earth came from Noah? Tell me, was Noah white or black? What boat did the Chinese and Japanese step off? During the great flood that covered ALL of the earth, did the North American Indians just paddle their canoes for 40 days and 40 nights? Theories?

Curtis S… obviously, you haven’t read the Bible well enough to understand that ALL people of the world came from Adam and Eve, not Noah. No where did the Bible say that Noah and his wife, and Noah’s three sons and their wives, started mankind anew. They were descendants of Adam and Eve, as well.

And if you follow the migratory patterns of the people that are descendants of Noah’s sons, where they attempted to build the Tower of Babel. Again, the Bible explains it all, and history confirms it, by tracin the migratory patterns of the people… where they came from… all from the region of where the Tower existed. There’s a reason why they call it the “cradle of civilization”! When God struck the peoples of the Tower with different languages, because they DID all speak the same language at the time and could communicate with each other, thereby sharing knowledge and the ability to build such a Tower to the heavens, the ones that had the same language ability gathered together, and left the area, to other parts of the world. At one time, all the continents were attached to each other, and these migratory people were able to move into what is known now as the North American and South American continents… that is how the American Indians, the Mayans, Aztecs, et al, were able to be in this part of the world… and why their civilizations have things in common with the other civilizations of Europe and the Middle East… for example the calendars, solar and lunar, and all based on the same 360-day basis as the Jewish calendar. Why all these calendars ALL point to the same date in 2012. They are, in actuality, all based on the same knowledge, obtained in the Middle East, where the Tower of Babel was built. This is now the region of Iraq and Iran, formerly known as Persia.

Hey Kodster… thanks for the reply, but I’m still confused. You said all of the people of the world came from Adam & Eve. Okay, but if god drowned everybody on the planet and ONLY Noah and his family were left, then humanity must have started over. If humanity started over then it would be correct to say that everyone on earth is descended from Noah’s family, right? If all of humanity is supposed to “evolve” from the “Noah Family”, and every bible I’ve read portrays Noah as an old white dude, then everyone should be white, and that’s not what I see today. (Maybe some other time we could also talk about how the Noah story seems to have been plagiarized from the Sumerian’s story of Gilgamesh.)

You talk about the Tower of Babel. Your god got worried that a bunch of ancient stone masons were going to build a what… a five… a ten story building to heaven? (How come he didn’t freak-out at the Empire State Building?)

Anyway, in an incredible fit of insecurity he decided that clear communication and sharing knowledge was a BAD thing? Okay, so in a jealous rage, or a drunken frat-boy prank, whatever, your god then hands-out different languages and humanity scatters and migrates to the corners of the earth. When did he create the different races? Yeah, I get the languages story, but how did the new languages change the skin colors? Thanks Kodster, but I’m still searching for the answer to that one.

All of the people came from the offsprings of Noah as you said all the others from Adam and Eve besides Noah and his family, were drowned during the flood. The various sons of which there were four migrated to various places in the known earth. Ham I believe went to what is known as Africa now and because of the heat was black skined with a large wide nose so that oxygen could be taken in easily where in the north their noses are small so they won’t freeze their lungs. I forget what son migrated to the east and so to speak started the yellow race. It is all in Genesis. Very good studying.

Actually, I have another take on this. Gen. 6:19 says: And of every living thing of ALL FLESH, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female.

Two every of every flesh would mean also two Asians, two blacks, two of every race. Not just the animals were needed to replenish the earth, but people also. Noah and his family also needed help with all of those animals.
God created every race and said it was good. The Old Testament is about God’s dealings with the Hebrew people, not the other races.

When Cain killed Abel, Abel went off to the land of Nod and lived and married there. These races were created before Adam and Eve, according to the ancient manuscripts that were used to translate into the King James English. However on some things they were not translated totally correct.
Gen 1:26-31 God created man which the manuscripts call him Adam. then in Gen 2 It was the 7th day and God ended his work and rested. Gen 2:5 the last part of the verse says,”There was not a man to till the ground”. In other words God did not have a farmer. verse 7: And the Lord God formed man (in the manuscripts this is Eth Ha Adam) of the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life.
So God made every race there is, no mistakes, and no bias, He loves us all.

whether a person believes in God or not, the Bible was written by men over generations and is a book of myth and fairy tales..full of contradictions and adultery and violence and incest. If you need a book written by men to believe in something as abstract and mysterious as God,then your belief if shallow and unfounded. People like Robertson and Falwell(until he died) and more con men pretending to be loving followers of Jesus are an insult to some of the good things he might have said. They are pathetic humans who deserve to be jailed for scamming millions of gullible people.

Denniso,
Myth, Fairy Tales, Full of contradictions, adultery, violence and incest? Sounds more like the Democratic party to me than the Bible.
The burn you feel now is nothing compared to flames that await you in Hell for your blasphime.

Pillar8, maybe you could call Pat, and explain to him that 80% of Hati’s population is Catholic and that means they are Christians. Pat’s ignorance is just the downfall of another of the American Christian leaders. He should step down.

Here is a transcript of some of what Rush said about Haiti and Obama:
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_011310/content/01125106.guest.html

The Limbaugh sheep should read the transcript to see what a sick and disgusting man Limbaugh is. He is politicizing the Haiti disaster and definitely implying that people shouldn’t donate,especially through the gov’t site.He is linking dictators and corruption to Haiti’s problems to create an overall negative impression of Haiti and implicitly making the point that donations are a waste of your $$. He also says that we already ‘donate w/ our tax $$’, implying that we shouldn’t give any more. He is pathetic and imbalanced and I still find it hard to believe that anyone w/ a brain at all follows anything he spouts and helps him become richer and more removed from his sheep all the while.

Yes, they should read the transcript and find videos to listen to what Rush has actually said, rather than reading your Liberal spin of what Rush said or “implied”.

Rush Limbaugh’s truth twisting vituperous ravings give conservatives a bad name. He drives more away than he attracts. Watch his body language sometime with the sound turned of and any thinking person will clearly see him for what he is… a self serving megalomaniac.

Pat Robertson is an example of a holier-than-thou blow hard who misses the point of Christianity. Would Jesus approve of his ignorant remarks?

Well, Denniso, I, myself, would not donate to Haiti, until I see that my $$ goes to the good of the people, and not to the corrupt politicians/cartels of Haiti. And I wouldn’t donate to the government site, either, but rather to the NGOs like the International Red Cross, where I know that the majority of my $$ would go to the relief effort, rather than administrative costs.

The government of Haiti STILL does not serve the people, but their own self-serving purposes. The people of Haiti have lived so suppressed and with so little, that they literally are nothing but sheep. You wonder why there hasn’t been a whole of lot of looting (granted, there has been some, but nothing the likes of, for example, Katrina/Rita of New Orleans and Houston)… but for a people who have grown accustomed to living on less than $2/day, while the “fat cats” of government live high on the hog and steal from the mouths of the people. So, my heart goes out to those people, but until I know for sure that my $$ go to those that need it most, I’m NOT donating anything.

Arkham,

Hey, isn’t Arkham the nut house in Batman and isn’t Grundy one of it’s residence. Well, I guess enough said.

Denniso, Arkham,
Massachusett’s special election is just a sign of things to come. Finally people are waking up to the reality of Liberal Hopes and Dreams. In 10 months your representatives are going to be out looking for honest work.

DaveH,

Maybe their Liberal Reps can go live with Arkham & Dems-Ho in their Moms basements!!!

Why would any one listen to Rush or Robertson in the first place?
The God I worship is a loving and forgiving God!
As far as Rush His ego is bigger than his brain!

Better yet, rather than the Red Cross, donate through your church. That’s what I plan on doing. There is more of a chance that the money will go to the relief effort than it will if you donate through some of these charity organizations who keep much of the money for “administrative purposes.” I’d be afraid to donate through government because I’d be worried that instead of the relief effort in Haiti the money would go to the coffers of Democrat party.

Tinwarble, what do you think Rush meant when he stated to the caller “Besides we’ve already donated to Haiti, it’s called US income tax”.??????????? Don’t you think that is a subtle way of indicating that the listeners should not donate??

You’re correct Eyes…and it’s not even very subtle. Limbaugh is trying to politicize the issue because he looks for any way to attack Obama or any Dem and he’s a bit worried that Obama’s polls will go up. He’s only out to destroy Obama at any cost..even the cost of looking like a moron and hatemonger and bigot. How people love the guy is WAY beyond me.

eyes,
no I don’t as he also said donate to private charities where the money will reach the people that need the help!!!

Victor, You didn’t get that garbage out of the Bible. You must have your own version of something.

I think you misspelled your name: should have been BLARNEY

Why do the uniformed always drag God into the picture. He has nothing to do with the natural tragedies occuring on this planet. I doubt seriously if any scientist would disagree with me. As to Limpballs, he beats bye far any “stand-up” I have ever seen. Naturally his following is found in the below 98 IQ area.
I wish now I had remained in Europe, even as an American. The disparity of thought and rhetoric here is gruesome! I may hyave suffered there as a foreigner, but I wasn’t so distressed as here. Maybe it is the Internet? Who knows?
I am not a communist, so get that out of your illiterate vocabulary, you who disagree. I do like what Karl Marx wrote in his “Communist Manifesto”: “Religion is the opium of the people!”
That Robertson jerk even ran for the presidency a few years ago! Now that would have been a natural catastrophe!

Peter,

Right on Peter.These red neck snaggle tooth morons never did get it or never will.Religion is the worst form of bigotry.They rather listen to fat ass tub of lard, Rush Limpballs and that lying foot in his mouth,Pat Robertson.No wonder this country is in a mess.

Have a good day,sir.

I, too, didn’t hear either remarks by Robertson or Limbaugh. Robertson was trying to get into God’s mind, but God doesn’t work that way. It was a natural disaster, nothing more. As for rush, I went to his site, RushLimbaugh.com to see the transcripts of the day’s program. As usual, the liberal media got things wrong. Rush simply said not to donate to the government but to private charities. He said we already donate to the government with our tax money. Just to clear things up.

I did hear Rush that day and the media is wrong again. He said that we should choose a publis charity or something like the red cross and donate monies as we would be assured it will get to the right place. These were not the exact words, but the point is the same. As we all know, government, especially Obama, spends money on what he want to spend it on–so who know if government money would ever get there. My opinion only

And the bad energy is coming from this website. The amount of ignorance & paranoia & hypocracy & hatred of anyone with intelligence is astounding. Have I stumbled upon a secret Mensa chapter here? Wow y’all are impressive with all your collective “knowledge”. The very article we are blogging about confirms that Robertson & Rush have surpassed the limits of any sort of connection with reality, yet has been plastered on here as some sort of confirmation of all the evil communist plots the current administration is up to, just as every single “fact-based” (doubtful, sinse that would require an ability to read & comprehend & spot inconsistencies, erroneous stats, & blatant absurdities; far beyond the capabilities of the elite group found here) article & link on this site does.
Robertson’s spokesman says the reverend did not say the earthquake in Haiti was the wrath of God (this is their powerful gotcha to Gibbs). Newsflash, the reverand didn’t say that because what he said was that it’s possible the Haitians brought this catastrophe on themselves by making a deal with the devil. Not the same thing. Is there an editor on this site or just a censor (my previous post was censored, no doubt because there was no ammo in their guns)? Your statements made Gibbs look even MORE intelligent and rational, and Robertson look more like a strange old man living in his fantasy world than ever.
Rush deserves no rebuttal as he has some kind of serious organic brain deterioration going on………I’m not making this stuff up folks (uh, yea you are Rush, just whatever comes into that peabrain and gets germinated by the hot air). (Some sentences removed for offensive content)

GoASK, I called the 700 network to complain about Robertson remark, and the first question was, “did you see the comment”?. Yes, I stated, then, the young lady tried to tell me, that isn’t what he said, I stopped her, and explained that I have it taped and I know exactly what he said. She then tried to tell me what he really meant. I then stated that as a Christian, I think he needs to take another look at his statement, and a refresher course in Bible studies. I then stated that stupid statements such as his is why the Christian religion is losing members and he is obviously too old, as that can be the only excuse for his statement. Loved your above comments. I think the Supreme Court ruling today will be the demise of this country. Our Democracy has already been hijacked by the corporations, and now there are no limits as to whom the corporation can purchase. It will soon be: the Senator from Haliburton, the Senator from Boeing.

Eyes…thanks for doing that. If more people,real Christians or not,called Robertson and others on their hateful and often bigotted remarks,then we might actually have fewer hypocrites and a more loving and peaceful society.

Thanks Eyes, but the best stuff was censored for “offensive content”, which is a farce because it did not contain any of the “disallowed” practices, as so many of the blogs on this subject (& all the others). Apparently, the REAL blog policy behind the generic facade stated policy reads more like. Opinions of an “extreme” nature are encouraged, UNLESS none of our Freedom Thinking Ignoramouses constantly trolling this website can respond with an intelligent, rational response (which is not possible as there are no intelligent, rational regulars on this website). If this benign little blog gets censored, you will be 3 for 3 in opposion to the 1st amendment, or is the 2nd amendment the only one that matters? My ENTIRE blog entry on the 2nd amendment hysteria blog was censored, and it contained nothing but truths that the drones do not want to hear or accept. If this gets censored then all the VERY thinly veiled threats on the lives of our current elected administration, & the reference to “tarbaby” have to go too, or are we now under a Far Right Extremist Totalitarian Rule, whose motto is akin to “all viewpoints are equal, some viewpoints are more equal than others”. I vote for this site to accept my entry on the 2nd amendment link written on 1/20/2010. Any takers?

Go Ask – experience has shown all of us posters here that stuff that is “removed for offensive content” was offensive, perhaps not in your mind. If you read the comments often, you’ll find very little “removed for offensive content” so perhaps you ought to consider your writing style as well as read the “rules” of posting comments.

AGOASK, I had a man calling me a Troll, 38 times in a post. When I called him a ditto head they removed my comment as offensive. Even though Rush coined the verbage and is proud of his ditto heads.Lol. This is a Republican site, sponsored by Bob Livingston, a well known Republican. I am sure his coharts find it difficult to remain objective in all circumstances. Notice ditto head was not one word…. heh heh, use your intellect to get around them. Keep posting and praying…..

Go Ask and Eyes – again, how you write your words seems to make all the difference – dittohead or ditto head – how did you really use those words? And serious personal attacks seem to be your styles – Why? I see no point—

GoAskAlice,
You just got here, why are you so angry? Is it the deep seated realization that your beloved Messiah is becoming mortal. If this were baseball, he would be out. Strike one,Virginia. Strike two, New Jersey. Strike three, Massachusetts? Who,da thunkit? What will become of the Democratic party if they can’t even elect a replacement for Kennedy in the most liberal, most progressive state in the union?
Is it Kennedy himself and that pesky Chapiquidick thing rearing it’s ugly head again, or is it Obama’s relentless persuit to destroy this country and our way of life through so-called Healthcare Reform and Cap& Trade.

Notice how the Dow rallied upon the news of Brown’s Victory? Obama couldn’t have that sort of thing happen. God forbid the economy suddenly started to recover on the news of maybe the insanity was over. He needed to stop that in it’s tracks, so he announced on the next day his intentions to fine the Banking industry which sent stocks plunging some 200 points.

More education later, That’s all you get for now.

P.S. Go watch Chris Matthews or something.

I’m always confused why people like her are at this site – ridiculous – her only desire appears to be to make mock of people she doesn’t agree with -

Why is she here?? Because she wants to express her opinions…just because most of the people here are rightwingers who revel in trashing Obama and any thinking person,that doesn’t mean you own this site and should bully others off it. Say what you think and let others do the same…she is welcome here by me and more.

Liberty, she is here for the same reasons the rest of us are here. She hopes she may say something that will strike a light in the thinking of someone who is following the totalitarian trail being blazed by the Republicans/Conservative right wingers. Maybe the idea of having one Political Party, one Religion and no diversity is prompting her to try and make a difference. How about you, why are you here?

I see the left has recently learned a new word, “Totalitarianism”. Fact is that this word has been used to describe Mao Tse Tung, Joseph Stallon, Adolf Hitler and more recently Fidel Castro, Che Guevara and Hugo Chavez. All of the previously mentioned demented despots seem to be the icons of the present adminisrtation who quote, emulate and are now implementing their policies and doctrines into our schools and government decision making.
The misplacement of the term “Totalitarianism” on conservatives is unfounded and absurd.

Michael J. you must first consider the source of the comment, then just ignore it.

Eyes, I’m here to read the articles and comments – but not berate and make fun of other posters. as you said i.e. “she hopes she may say something that will strike a light in the thinking of someone who is following the totalitarian trail being blazed by the Republicans/Conservative right wingers. Maybe the idea of having one Political Party, one Religion and no diversity is prompting her to try and make a difference.”
However, it doesn’t give any food for thought if one does these comments in a continuously mean, mocking matter. Makes the poster look more like an idiot rather than someone with a diverse opinion. So what’s the point of these folks posting? Certainly not to share ideas.

I have given all I can for now to the Haiti effort of another Christian group. Just wanted to say that I agree with all you have said concerning Israel. Although many in Israel do not understand, or know the scriptures you refer to, the force of those scriptures is in full effect and that is a fact that will never change. Be blessed in your efforts and add my thanks to Israel.