He’s a pussy when it comes to defending our Country against our enemies.

The only thing holding him back is that his supporters are thinning rapidly. His runaway train is slowing everyday. Everyone must not let up and keep the pressure on.

Dave,

I was speaking of our enemies. I’ve said all along that the only people that he takes a stand against are the American People, especially those that do not agree with him.

ACORN

You go girl! Luv it!

Robert,

That is what I’ve been saying all along. obama has no problem taking a stand against the American Citizenry, especially the ones that do not agree with him. That’s why we need too band together to defend our rights and our liberties.

I doubt they will be stupid enough to try to take our guns away,we the people are preparing for that and it will get ugly if they try!

Obama will never have the support of our military, local and state police to “take” our guns away. The anti’s will always be trying to strip us of our inherant right, but we will all fight back just as hard or harder to preserve our right.
Lock and load!

Here is a good start:
http://libertarianparty.org/platform

For real Freedom, and Free Markets (not Crony Capitalism).

DaveH, I never could argue with you on this one. Keep the line open because you are a wise man.

WinstonWolf, showing a would-be president’s birth certificate isn’t just a nice thing to do, it’s a constitutional requirement (Art. II, Sect. I, Cl. 4). If an aspirant to the Oval Office isn’t “a natural born citizen” he cannot be the president. The certificate that he did show contained no certificate number (it had been blacked out); it had no dated signatures of any state authority; and it was not typed as other certificates in 1961 in Hawaii, it was a laser print out, which capability was not available back then. A legitimate Hawaiian birth certificate back then had 14 horizontal lines and 22 virticle lines dividing the horizontal lines into boxes; which boxes were filled in by a typewriter, and hand-written dates and signatures.

Yes, you got that right. The Neo-Libs like Obama do love their wars.

Years and years ago I can remember my Mother and my Grandma saying that wars were created for the economy. Well, this one sure didn’t work that way.

I don’t recall the US starting WWII of which my father is a Veteran of.

Interesting how those who never served a day in the military….seem to know “when” to engage (or not) in war! Like a bunch of back seat drivers.

Fed Up Gal

No, I wasn’t in the military and I know World War II was not initiated because of the economy. I also had relatives in World War II. I was merely stating that my Mother and Grandma used to say this. And I used to wonder about this. There are some wars that are created falsely. Bac seat driver, No, I usually drive.

The only aspect of a War that would be good for the economy is if it spurred the citizens to be more productive. Otherwise, the other aspects of War are bad for an economy. Think of all the machinery and munitions that are just blown up in a war. And all the soldiers that could be producing goods and services are sidetracked with the war effort.

Hi DaveH—Good explanation. I had always wondered about this particular comment and could not see the rationality of it.

John, Claire is right, President Franklin D. Roosevelt tried every trick in the book to get Germany to attack one of our ships in the Atlantic, but German subs were under orders not to fire on American ships unless they were under attack. Then FDR spent over a year in imposing sanctions on Japan, which eventually worked in provoking the attack on Pearl Harbor. Several books have now documented that. FDR was a Socialist, while Germany was anti-Communist, that’s why FDR wanted to ally the U.S. with the Soviet Union and crush Germany.

Claire,

Your point is well taken, and your Mom and Grandma could have been on to something.

Respectfully….I wish people would give 2-4 years of their own lives in the military to understand that the men and women in uniform get caught up in another battle (battle of public opinion). Washington calls the shots and the military men and women do their job. It’s likely in every war or conflict that there are many who don’t personally want to support that particular one…but what kind of security would we have if the military members could just pick and choose which war to attend and which ones not? Sorry if my comment offended you; I was just trying to make a point.

Fed Up Gal

Fed Up Gal in NM—You did not offend me. My son was in the Air Guard and he almost went to Desert Storm. But only a handful were taken from his unit, the 183rd. He worked on the radar in F16s. It seems like they took the guys that had more seniority at the time. I can remember I was at work and the guys in the Print Shop came in and said it was on the radio that the 183rd was called up. I can remember how I felt, I sat there at my desk and God help me, the tears rolled down my face. I called my son and he said he hadn’t heard anything but that he was ready to go. My son asked me if I would take care of his dogs. I was shaking but I could not help myself. As I said, it turned out that he did not have to go. But I thought about the men that did go and their families. The realization of war smacked me right in the face. I will always support our troops and their families. I sincerely appreciate what they do and have always done for America. God bless all of our military soldiers and their families. They are in my heart.

Now that just sounds crazy, he may be a little too Christian for us. He would surely not continue this perpetual tax and spend. Although his comment on Haiti was wrong and he should apologize, he has done more the Haitians than Obama will ever do. Obama sent Bush and Clinton to help, the very guys who have brought tyranny to those innocent people in the first place. At least Robertson has been helping them personally instead worrying about his power over the American idiot.

I suppose you like the views of Rev Wright and Al Sharpton Jesse Jackson and all those other pundits. Where they will agree to like & promote you no matter what you’ve done, (VIC, Obama etc)just because they are black> It dosent matter what they have done they stand behind them just because of the color of their skin, and that is sooo sooo very sad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That in and of itself is racist.

Norm,

Pat was the one that said Hati is cursed.

Norm,

Plain and simple, I’ll take Pat over obama any day. I’m sure he’s not the liar that obama is.

John,

No John, Pat has been caught in a number of lies.He is a sleaze ball and a con artist.

NORM…..NORM….GET A GRIP

You also have forgotten about the push to legalize all the illegals in this country. That is the Obama Admin selling out our country for votes!!! for the first time since I have been a Dem I voted for McCain because I did’t drink the kool aide. Norm You have to wake
up!!!!! I did.

A DEMOCRAT NO MORE…remember, the liberal left and the Obama dem have a long memory with built in excuses…Reagan and illegals, Bush, Cheney, etc. Like a child that is jealous, there is no rationality put into their thoughts. That is how they will justify legalizing illegals along with a deep underlying need of the democrats to buy the votes of 12+ millions.
BIG GOVERMENT is breaking this country, Democrats and Republicans alike. If one doesn’t restrict themself to tow “the party line” and think independently about what is best for America as a whole rather than just relying on government to make all of the decisions for you, one might step back and have a differant view. So many Americans have realized the “CHANGES” they voted for are not the changes they are getting. Health Care Reform is the biggest and best example. This administration wants to destroy the middle class because the poor have to rely on the government and the rich don’t need it. To continue to give, give, give and expecting the taxpayers to keep paying more, more, more does not solve the problems. Sometimes it is just better to shut the door, tighten the belts and work openly, together, to solve the problems we are faceing now. So much for promises of transparency and openess and working together. You tell the lie too many times, sooner than later nobody will believe.

Jeff H,

Right on target, friend!

Fed Up Gal

Welcome Back JeffH.

I’m guessing Obama’s next move will be to annex Haiti. Of course, it will be for “humanitarian” reasons.

Thanks guys and gals. Change is in the air as we speak. Hugo Chavez, Obama’s friend, has denounced the US as militarily taking over in Haiti. A tragedy no doubt, but where was all the MSM hoopla during the devastating earthquakes in the other countries…all of a sudden Haiti is this nations priority to Michelle O and her husbands MSM. Once again the American people step up to the plate and donate, voluntarily, with the exception of $100 mil of our tax money.

Luckily unions only comprise 7% of industry, because we get it and we have educated our people what unions really mean to them….it’s those services sectors we need to go after next. SEIU is way up o’s butt

David,

Right On! I used to be a Union Steward as well as Union President. I believe Unions were created for good cause, but like a lot of other things (mainly politicians)….good causes and good people can and will unfortunately more times than not…sell out to get something that only benefits them or their group. I’ve found that Unions are sometimes as (if not more) corrupt than the agencies or companies they are battling. This equates to simple greed!

I wonder also why Toyota can seem to put out a great line of automobiles without a Union? Unions have to realize that when the American people finally get fed up with supporting their sometimes unrealistic issues….it will affect their bottom line (as is being seen right now).

Fed Up Gal

Gal,
I wish I could share your sentiment, but I don’t believe Unions ever served a good cause. Forcing one’s way on other people is never a good cause. In a free market, if a person doesn’t think working conditions are right, he or she can start their own competing business.
I do believe that people should be free to organize, but impeding the hiring of replacement workers or harassing customers is not included in that freedom.

Dave H,

You know Dave…you and I usually end up agreeing on more than we disagree on. I agree with your comment here (for the most part). Where we disagree is whether they may have served a useful purpose at one time. From my perspective… I do think when unions were created, they were intended for good…back then a lot of folks were in a catch 22 position…and could not leave a job and start a business. Remember back then…Uncle didn’t pay to retrain you or to send you to finish school….like it does now (at an alarming rate I might add). Again, you right about Unions now….they’re corrupt for the most part! I think we’re at least on the same page, even if not on the same paragraph .

Fed Up Gal

I did not like Bush and his lies, nor his Patriot Act either. That Obama has continued Bush’s tyranny and even accelerated it is obvious unless you just landed here yesterday morning. Afghanistan will be perpetual, Gitmo will never close, Iraq was invaded and the Neo-Libs were part and parcel in these Wars. The Neo-Libs played the, we were against this war, political expedient game all the while amassing power over their constituency. They were for these wars from the beginning and lied only whence they thought it would save them face. If you believe any of these career politicians want not control but what is good for the people then you must believe in fairy tales, as well.

Well, he doesn’t believe in “The Goose that Laid the Golden Eggs”.

Obama has installed Patriot Act II all by himself, under no force by any Repukelican. The Bush tax cuts were intended toward the working class, maybe just a feel good thing from his admin, and they worked. I received my taxes back plus some, what did you not get yours?
To say our economy was not happy with Bush’s policies(Pre 2008) is to blindly ignore facts and no one will believe you, our economy was booming. Do not misinterpret this for support, he bankrupted our liberties, but maybe that is all a Neo-con understands. The failed policies of housing market forced loans was the first bubble, thanks to Frank, Clinton and gang.

Funny how, even though he hardly ever voted more than present, before the messiah’s election he gained large profits from the quasi governmental agencies who were ultimately responsible for the recent depression. They call it a recession despite the coming hyper-inflation because they want to get while the getting is good. The messiah will profit for years to came off of your refusal to see the truth. End The Fed!

And so has Obama and he’s just beginning. Inflation anyone???

Listen to you. The pot calling the kettle black. I must say that in the past you pretty much stayed away from the typical Liberal tactics of name-calling, ridicule, and condescension. But you have really fallen off the wagon on this page.

Diane
There’s something about truth and reality which seems to elude you right wing extremeists.

Norm,

Just one question, are you an ostrich, or just that ignorant? You need to step outside of your little box and see the big picture. Good luck with that.

If you get away from hate radio long enough you might see how screwed up your beliefs are. Have you heard Rush’s views on Haiti by the way?

Why yes Norm, I have. Of course YOUR verions is tripe, but the WHOLE version is, Rush doesn’t trust Obama’s corrupt appointments to get the relief to the Haitian people. HE says donate directly to the relief agencies. Now, what was YOUR version of Rush’s statement? LOL, Fantasy World and Projection. Categories of Dementia, and you have that disease alright. Don’t worry, although that dementia WILL get worse as you get older, the Schizophrenia part will allow you to really get into Fantasy. It’s your only saving grace as it’s obvious Reality really suxors for you, LOL.

This is journalistic dishonesty at it’s finest, Norm. Rush Limbaugh said what he said and they not only took it out of context, they flat out lied about what he said. Now, Clinton comments(to the late Kennedy I believe) on how Obama would have been serving his drinks back in the day, which does not need any context at all, and they never make a peep. The MSM is shameless and will pay for their sins against the American people very soon.
Is that the media you go to Norm? If these are the facts you go on then don’t come back to the table. Alas, Alan Colmes will educate you on the epitome of liberal debate or badgering. Not that he is not a left wing wind bag with a hate for truth or righteousness, but still at least he debates well. I can’t stand this from a radio talk show host: yell down your opponent with these words “Stop Yelling down your opponent you _____ (fill in the blank with any political affiliation!” These are the tactics of a fool. Colmes uses this hypocritical tact oft and well.

Controversial conservative talk radio host Rush Limbaugh is defending earlier comments in which he accused President Obama of using the disaster in Haiti for political gain.

“I do believe that everything is political to this president,” Limbaugh said on his radio show yesterday. “Everything this president sees is a political opportunity, including Haiti, and he will use it to burnish his credentials with minorities in this country and around the world, and to accuse Republicans of having no compassion.”

President Obama has dedicated $100 million for immediate relief efforts in Haiti, calling it a “top priority.”

The president has not politicized the matter or criticized Republicans’ response to the disaster. Republicans, in fact, have largely expressed their support for the president’s efforts.

Norm,

Hate radio???

What is Moveon.org???

Or the liar Keith Olberman all about???

You are an ignorant fool.

My Dear Norm,

Your missing the point, that we americans are not going to be sold out to you dem’s to buy our FREEDOM, and become a socialist communist country under this so called OBAMA world, he will never step his foot in OUR WHITE HOUSE AGAIN, and you can believe that, and he is not an american and never will be …..I’m a veteran, one of the lucky ones that came back in one piece, so many died for this country, OBAMA is not going to destroy this country, he won’t be president much longer, this is the greatest nation in the world, I love it with all my heart and soul, and anyone that doesn’t PLEASE get out…..

What makes you think “our whitehouse” is your whitehose.
You represent a minority viewpoint. Get it?

A lot of people sacrificed for this country and they don’t all share your beliefs.

Like you sir I am a vet. And we did buy our freedom — WITH THE BLOOD OF OUR MEN AND WOMEN— God Bless this country Thank you Sir

I sacrificed for this Country on March 29, 1972, Easter offensive. I have a Bronze Star, and Purple Heart with clusters. Oh yeah and letters from TWO presidents that awarded them to me. What YOU got? That’s what I thought. And YOU just don’t get it. YOU are in the minority Nor boy. I know that fog in your Liberal brain just won’t allow you to process that FACT, but a FACT, it is. WOW, This is too easy. Spanking a clueless Liberal is NO fun. There’s just no defense for stupidity. I am going to go where the Liberals at least have some Intellectual Honesty. This norboy is useless.

And Stanley, I wasn’t talking to you Sir, but to the LaLaLand Liberal A.B. Norm-al. I am done with him as I have come to realize he is clueless and a frequent troll, so every one already knows he’s clueless and don’t need me saying so. I have other blogs to spank Libbies on, and A.B. Norm-al offers no challenge, just tired old 2008 Liberal talking points. Been there done that, time for some NEW arguments. Bush did it is a losing Strategy.

We are extremists because we dont want BIG government making all the dicisions for us? What happens when the government gets BIGGER and MORE EXTEME? We have to keep our government small and under OUR power lest it take us out. I know its the Easy way out to let government do EVERYTHING for us but it is WRONG and is NOT what our forfathers had intended. We have been warned and witnessed throughout history how BIG GOVERNMENT suppresses its people.

20% of the population (liberals) does 80% of the complaining. Norm and his liberal friends are about to be crushed and they are just lashing out while they can.

IF… seems to be the basis of all democrats.
However WHEN the health reform becomes a law his score will tank!!!

NORM

OBAMA will never see 50% again only in your dreams…..

God willing, we shall live to see.

Norm,

If Obama and his liberal followers continue….the economy won’t get better…..because business will be stifled since business owners will not want to invest money to start-up or expand business….this includes small business owners. So are you saying that ACORN will improve the economy? Reeeeeeallllllllly?

Fed Up Gal

Here’s one for ya…we all move to the barter system where you trade goods at a co-op owned by you and your neighbors. Even things like medical supplies and such can be purchased. In fact, if a group of people would seriously think about it they coud get by pretty dam good this way and the beauty of the whole thig is that it cuts off what the government wants most….TAX DOLLARS….HHMMMM

It is as if we get what we deserve because we asked for it.
The Bush economic policies worked well until 2007 when the housing debacle started by the Democrats in the Clinton years came to fruition, these risky loans to people who could not afford them were bloated in value, prices were inflated, risks were all bore by the banks which is convenient for the extortionists because later they blamed Bush and the banks, and even loans were extorted from banks by the likes of Frank under the threat of regulation(another word for legalized criminal control of otherwise functional free market principal) which is now so obvious even you can see this. Simple math applies whether we want it to or not, the Keynesian school is absurdly contrary to logic. You owe 10 and then you borrow 10 more to pay the first ten, you then owe 20. The keynesian model says you can print it if you are a government and you now pay the ten (You can spend ten elsewhere with this model as well since you own the printer) and owe nothing to anyone, all the while promoting progressive policies and controlling the foolish who believe you do it for their good. Salt it with redistribution from the wealthy to the poor and tell the poor you work for their good and now you have throngs of cradle to gravers who vote for you endlessly.
This is not the American way and this is not why we broke the monarchy’s hold over our economy. The disgusting part is the people continually vote for the very perpetrators of these broken and failed policies even when they say they believe in these policies of failure.

Abolish the IRS, end the Fed and downsize government before it is too late. As we speak, blame is a losing game, we still control this nation. If we keep arguing the far left will inevitable take advantage of our division and rule us with more restriction than the Crown in 1774. The Fed controls our money and our Congress thereby! Even Obama took the money this can be proven through a simple online search(Unless they removed all articles to this effect like Snopes did his certificate of live birth). If he had not then he would have come out against the Fed already, this would be a respectable Democrat I would have voted for, but he only went after the AIG execs. whom worked within the system legally(Contract is the basis of all law). Incidentally Obama and his admin let them take these bonuses in the first place.

Norm,
You keep missing the point. The Democrats were NOT as radical as they are NOW.

And Jack where should we get our news from MSNBC???

Norm – Actually, you are the minority here – if his rating is 46% (and I agree with Strawberry Shortcake that is wayyyyyy too high) – Obama should be thankful, and that proves that if you are within those that bow to him, you are the traitor. He should be impeached, and quickly before he and his followers can do any more damage. Those who want to keep a free America need to keep speaking up and show that real patriotism and belief in a free Republic can still be.

Absolutely! Obama and Dems are destroying our nation and making us socialist. If we follow that path we will be in big trouble. Communism = Poverty and opression. Just ask China about their Green Dam.

We are the ones that are loyal. Loyal to our Country and constitution.
You sir are a radical and not loyal to our Country. Quick, get on that
boat to Cuba or Maybe Hugo will let you into his country since you both express the same views!!!!

Keep in denial nor man. It will just be easier to side step your foolishness. YOU are in the Minority Liberal. only 21% own up to be Liberal in America. And YOU want to talk about a “small vocal minority”? Fantasy World bubba, fantasy world.

no Norm Shortcake is not 1 of a few. There are millions of us that are of the same conclusion as Short Cake. You need to pay attention to what is going on. Americans are not going to take much more.

Uh Norm….did you make it through basic math? 46% is the percentage that the poll said approves of your president, that means it’s lowwwerr, and that makes you sir, the minority.

As for my loyalties, they lie with the Constitution and those that will uphold it. I do not take lightly those that have paid the ultimate price to create and protect it. If your loyalty lies anywhere else that allows it to be violated or those deaths to have been in vain then you do not deserve your freedoms.

Carl Williams,

You said it (well…your father I guess)! Unbelievable how many people continue to stick their heads in the sand and not recognize the demand for more and more services is just morphing into a monster….as the supply dryeth up! Thanks for your comment.

Fed Up Gal

Why can`t people who collect welfare,food stamps,and free housing go to work and pay taxes. We hard working folks can longer afford to keep them up. Of couse if you are challenged in some way..like too stupid and are unable to work..well then you should not be having sex and reproducing. I`ve had enough of this sorry country.

Boe—Your comment is blunt, to the point and so true. So many people on welfare and some keep having babies to keep getting the welfare checks. I know several people that do not want to go back to work, it is too easy being unemployed and drawing their unemployment checks. I am sick of this too.

What we need is to stop being followers. No government can take care of those who won’t take care of themselves. We need less government and more private sector.

Yes, yes.

Thumbs Up John,true statment.

I WANT “DUBYA” BACK ! ANYTHING BUT THE CURRENT ADMINISTRATION !

I felt safer with George in office ! He might not have been a total conservative ideologue, but he sure was practical ……

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN8_3yXLY9c

Let’s get rid of term limits and get George back !!!

Viktor,

I’m with you, but I doubt George Bush would accept the office unless there was no other choice. He’s had his time in DC, and I think he’s done with it. He’s not really a career politician, and doesn’t enjoy the bantering and games-playing that goes on between the political parties. I am pretty sure he’s done trying to work with most liberals, who did everything they could for 8 years to mislead, distort, and falsify his record for short term political gain. Who needs it? Let someone else have their term in the barrel…..

Please, Guys, I’m getting nauseous. We can’t afford any more Government growth, whether under a RINO, or under a Marxist.

You’re correct, of course. I’m trying to figure out what was said to stimulate that comment, however.

For all those out there who don’t know what “Jacob’s Trouble” is, it’s more commonly known to born-again Christians as the “Tribulation,” and details can be found in the book of Revelation from the Bible. Everyone, please open your eyes to the prophetic signs around us today. 2 Thessolonians, chapter 2 is happening right before out eyes and began before Obama was elected. It states that God will send a delusion upon those who are to perish so that they’ll believe what is false, which in turn means that they’ll not believe what is true. Obama was elected because people believed lies and not the truth, the greatest of these being the myth that man is causing global warming. People who believe this myth are totally under the delusion and are sadly on their way to perishing.

Another huge prophetic sign happening right before our eyes, is hyperinflation, where your money will suddenly become worthless. Hang on to your guns because you gonna need them for this. I hope all who read this consider what this really means, because when it happens, and it’s not a question of “if it happens” but when it will happen, Obama will declare martial law to control the chaos that’ll occur and postpone all elections indefinitely. By the way, Obama’s already begun getting ready for this by issuing an order to one of his generals to amass an army of one million soldiers here in the U.S., and that information was picked up from Russian sources, not the right-wing blogs. God help us in the next two years.

Just interested to know where you got your info. If it is true then it needs to be said, but if not then you are going to cause a lot of problems for people. Can you show proof as to what you have said about Obama calling in on martial law? Please show your proof as the American people need to be prepared.

Sheilah, you can find your answer here: http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-amending-executive-order-12425

If you want the whole story, go here: newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd479.htm

Yes, we definitely need to be prepared asap.

You don’t have to worry about any “proof” since this is just another backlash mentality lie. But true to form, those that believe in and distort reality with conspiracy theories (like this one) – never have to offer proof. Only because they are preaching to those that think just like them. Conspiracy thinking is nothing but “poison” to “unfertile” minds. They are unfortuately spread and believed by unintelligent minds.

Give me your email. I’ll send you the documentation……..Jay

Rod,
Much like the Liberal promises are “spread and believed by unintelligent minds”.

This is my email for those who would like me to send them the documentation about Obama’s orders to one of his generals to quietly amass an army of one million men: jaybob.1@netzero.net

Jay,
While I distrust O-man as much as any and am as disgusted by his crapper politics as any, I doubt he could Amass an army of one million and still keep the levels any where near what they are now in foreign countries. If it is true, God bless ya’ for letting us know, but if it isn’t then as Wright would say about our wonderful, beautiful country, then G-D you for spreading a lie thats going to make conservatives look bad!!! We already have an up-hill battle without lies making us look like kooks!!!

I don’t understand why so many people who call themselves Conservatives, Libertarians and/or Republicans are so misinformed. Folks, for your sake, the sake of your families and our great nation you have to stop getting all of your information from Fox News, the Glenn Becks and Rush Limbaughs of the world. They feed you a lot of BS that you just swallow. If you would take just a few minutes to fact check what they are telling you, you would find that they frequently mislead.

I have been a Goldwater conservative Republican since before I could register to vote in 1968. So called conservatives like Beck and Limbaugh are nothing but corporate shills who will say and do anything to help the rich and powerful who pay or might pay them the millions they take, regardless as to what it does to the vast majority of the people in this country.

Reagan was no hero; he didn’t work miracles with the economy. He cut taxes for the richest people but actually raised them on the average folks. Have you folks forgotten the recession in 1986-87 or the one in 1991-1992. He started this country down the road to the huge deficits that we now have along with his policies of free trade and deregulation even Clinton continued them) that has led to the mess we are now in.

You can’t be a socialist and a communist at the same time. We don’t have socialism in this country. What we have is corporatism where the large corporations and the very rich exercise control over the government.

Obama’s approval numbers have tanked because he has abandoned his base
and they feel betrayed. He campaigned as a reformer but is governing as a corporatist. That’s why in fairly recent polling, over 40% of the people who identified themselves as Democrats said they either didn’t plan on or definitely weren’t going to vote in the midterm elections this year.

Jack, Let me try to help answer your question. Read Thomas Franks book “The Wrecking Crew”. It lays out how top conservatives like Grover Norquist, Jack Abramoff, Tom Delay (and even Newt Gringrich to some extent) have concocted and executed a plan to cause the less educated, disaffected and disenchanted of the United States to hate and fear the one entity that always protected the middle class – our government -at least into the middle seventies. Ever since then they have defunded much of the good government that existed with poor leadership when they have been in power. They have done that in many ways to make the government look bad while they and their corporate “buddies” got filthy rich. And guess what happened to the middle class. They “bought into” all the lies, misnformation, negativity and conspiracy theories and hating and mistrusting the government and it just became a self-fulfilling prophecy” after a while. It did not matter how stagnant their wages got or how their employers kept taking away their benefits or kept taking their jobs to other countries because by this time it was all the “governments, socialists and liberals” fault. They simply created a “bogeyman” that never existed. All they did was tap into their hate, prejudices and lower economic status with lies, distortions, misinformation – and best of all “conspiracy theories”. And guess what happened? The people stupidly kept voting for the very same conservative politicians who pander to these rich,elite conservatives and their powerful corporation lobbies. Pretty smart of them, wouldn’t you say? Except look what it has done to our country attitude wise. And these same conservative scoundrels are now getting away with no financial reform because they have the “disaffected unintelligent masses” distracted once again, loathing in their own negativity, pessimism and downright hate. This is the main reason that I will never vote Republican/Conservative ever again. These people have no clue of the real problems facing and how we need positive, progressive solutions for them. But please read Thomas Frank’s book. It is excellent in explaining this “backlash phenomenon”.

Jack,

It seems your last paragraph may have said it all….the FLL’s are a “my way or the highway” kind….so they threaten to “not vote”.

And….as far as your thought about Fox News, Beck and Limbaugh; I use to listen to ABC, CBS, NBC, etc…..but they rarely offer dissenting viewpoints…..at least Fox offers a more balanced take on the issues….allowing the viewers to make up their own mind…instead of receiving a “MSM” implant.

Fed Up Gal

AMEN! Fox is the ONLY real honest news! With the conservatives having ONLY Fox, I wish they WEREN’T so “fair & balanced” so they could balance out ALL the other “MSM” being completely BIASED to the liberal progressive (& admitted Socialists)distortions or elimination of the truth.

Fed Up Gal in NM,
Not only do they not show dissenting arguments, they rarely, if ever, show the real news!!! 14 or fifteen days of Tiger this, and Tiger that were much more than I as an occasional “checker” could take!!!! Show me news or go the way of Air America!!!!!

Jack,
Do you even know what Libertarians stand for? When you lump us in with right-wingers, I am lead to believe you don’t.
Crony Capitalism knows no party lines. Both Democrats and Republicans are guilty of corporate favoritism.
Libertarians believe in markets free of government meddling except to protect the public from fraudulant activities.

Jack,

The eternal struggle in democratic politics now, and probably always will be, between the citizens votes and the political lobby’s money for influence over our political representatives’ attention, time, and resources. In the end, our votes trump the lobbist’s money when we bring the two into conflict. The politicans, of course, will try to find a way of getting both when they can. A couple of the ways they’ve accomplished this in the past are by 1) accepting campaign contributions which are used to market their campaigns to win our votes, and 2) provide “give-away” programs to citizens to win votes.

I’m pretty sure it doesn’t matter who we send to Washington, regardless of party affiliation, political philosophies, or best intentions when they go, eventually they’ll all become corrupted by the process if they stay long enough. We just can’t put people in that kind of situation and expect any different result. It would, of course, help if we sent honest people who share our values and believe in limited government in the first place. I think that’s where “the train jumped track” this time. We’ve sent a lot of folks who really want to change our system into something we never thought possible in the past, and are having trouble facing today.

I think it’s very important that we continue our oversight effort like the Tea Party is currently providing to keep our conservative and libertarian politicians on the track we want them to be on. Without this, our politicians will eventually become overcome by the power of the money, influence, and corruption.

You’re a real optimist. Your “repression happened while one of your evident heroes, on Comrade Bill Klinton’s watch.

Communist Russia tried SOCIALISM for decades and then finally realized it wasn’t working. That kills your “we can’t have communism and socialism at the same time” bullshit.

Get your head out, and start looking at the path ol Purple Lips, with the jug ears, is taking us. MARXISM IS SOCIALISM, fella, and that’s what ol PL is claiming to be… a Marxist.

And he’s not the only one. Little Jimmy, Miss Lillian’s little boy, is a socialist and Comrade Hillbillery and Slick Willie are Marxists.

When you finally pull your head out, look around, AFTER you wake up!

No need to reply, you’re an idiot, along with the other fools who put this illegal bastard (born out of wedlock) in there. His father was an adulterer and there never were any divorce papers. I suppose they reside in the same coffers with the non-existent AMERICAN birth certificate.

Jack, Spoken like a true, fake Goldwater Republican

Jack , It seems like you are one of the people that can’t handle the truth.
You do sound like a person that has to have some one else do his thinking.
Promise me if you ever run for any Gov. office warn us.
At least Fox can back up every remark they make,and have’nt you every wondered why no one that backs omama or obama himself never go on FOX? but they have all been invited.
Try thinking that out all on your own.
You poor Baby.

Wgere Mr. Barney got the idea the 3rd Degree Masons had anyrthing to do with the Bush era is a real mystery.

I saw no mention of the Masonic Order as a factor.

Methinks Mr. Barney needs to read up on thre Masons.

I agree. My husband is a Mason, and I trust my husband, not some other propaganda.

Apparently this Victor Barney doesn’t know the difference between “Marxism” and “Fascism”. The way the Bushes were “throwing away” borrowed money on what virtually everyone agrees was a stupid unjustified war makes it a clearly “capitalist” venture. The idea being that a few “military-industrialist”. thought they could capitalize on this conflict (at the cost of millions of casualties)and lining their pockets. Let’s hope Obama stops falling for this nonsense before its too late!