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Intelligence Ties to The Underwear Bomber

January 18, 2010 by  

Intelligence Ties to The Underwear Bomber

Could the Christmas day bomb attempt on Northwest Airlines Flight 253 have been a false flag set up by various intelligence agencies with the goal of tightening the grip of governments on its people while enriching a few well-connected individuals and corporations?

That idea—seemingly incomprehensible at first glance—gains credence the more one looks to connect a few dots.

There remain many unanswered questions about just what happened in the months, days and hours leading up to Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab’s attempt to detonate the explosive pentaerythritol tetranitrate (PETN)—which he had concealed in his underwear—as the flight descended on Detroit.

President Obama, in a news conference on Jan. 7, said a “systemic” failure allowed Abdulmutallab to board a plane at the Amsterdam Schiphol airport carrying the explosives. But was it a failure, or was it an orchestrated event?

As we documented here it’s being reported that Abdulmutallab used cash to buy a one-way ticket to the United States at the last minute while carrying no luggage and being on a terrorist watch list. Incredibly, his father had communicated to the U.S. Embassy in Nigeria in November that Abdulmutallab had been radicalized and may be planning a terrorist attack.

At least one witness—passenger Kurt Haskell—claimed that a well-dressed Indian man had escorted Abdulmutallab to the ticket counter and told a ticket agent that Abdulmutallab didn’t have a passport but needed to get on the plane. Haskell’s story has since been corroborated by another passenger who has asked not to be identified, according to a blog posted by Haskell’s wife, Lori. Dutch authorities deny this but refuse to release surveillance video of the airport terminal.

Haskell has also said another Indian man was arrested after the flight landed. But the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) disputes Haskell’s version of the story. However, the FBI has orchestrated a cover-up by giving at least four different accounts of what happened once the plane was on the ground.

But there is much more to the story, and it starts a little more than two years ago.

In November 2007, under orders from President George W. Bush, two Guantanamo Bay prisoners were released to Saudi Arabia. From there they went to Yemen where they joined with the top leader of al-Qaida in Yemen and went to work.

As CBS News has reported, in August 2009 the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) picked up information on a person of interest dubbed “The Nigerian.” He was said to have met with “terrorist elements” in Yemen. The Nigerian has turned out to be Abdulmutallab. But that connection was not made when Abdulmutallab’s father went to the U.S. Embassy on Nov. 19. There are also reports out of the United Kingdom that MI5 had warned the CIA about him in 2008 as well.

Despite Abdulmutallab’s father’s disclosure to U.S. authorities, Abdulmutallab’s visa was not revoked nor was his name placed on a no-fly list. That an oversight like this could occur by accident, without the knowledge of the CIA and U.S. State Department, is not believable.

As Gordon Duff reports in Veterans Today, groups claiming to be al-Qaida in Yemen say the Detroit attack was in retaliation for U.S. cruise missile attacks on bases in Yemen. According to a report by the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC), the al-Qaida terrorists released from Guantanamo by Bush are really Israeli intelligence agents. This was stated by Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh when he announced the arrest of a group of alleged Islamist militants. He did not say what evidence pointed toward a link with Israel.

Duff told AmericanFreePress.net (AFP) that there is no al-Qaida in Yemen. “George Bush released a couple of phony operatives from Guantanamo, and after travelling to the Middle East, they hooked up with [the Israeli intelligence agency] Mossad. The only reason Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez released them is because they’re assets,” Duff told AFP.

And, as Duff reports, Abdulmutallab’s father also has ties to Mossad, as well as the CIA station chief and U.S. Ambassador in Nigeria. Named Alhaji Umaru Abdul Mutallab, he is one of the richest men in the world and recently retired as chairman of Nigeria’s First Bank. He also serves on the board of a number of Nigerian corporations and runs the nation’s national arms industry in partnership with Mossad.

Israeli intelligence officers have been training Nigerian security forces for some time, according to an article in Nigeria’s Daily Trust newspaper. Reports show that Mossad trains the military, sells weapons, runs the airports and wields power over Defense Industries Corporation (DICON) in Nigeria, according to AFP.

In an interview with AFP, Duff said he’s not surprised that a man of Indian descent has been tied in with the Abdulmtullab’s bombing attempt. Israel and India are close business partners, especially via their military contracts. He also said the Indian intelligence agency Research and Analysis Wing (RAW) works hand-in-hand with Israel.

As investigative journalist Wayne Madsen wrote in a recent copyrighted Wayne Madsen Report (WMR), Asian intelligence believes the Indian man who helped Abdulmtullab through security was a RAW agent who used his influence to convince airline and airport security personnel that Abdulmtullab was a bona fide Sudanese refuge.

WMR reports that the security company that cleared Abdulmtullab in Schiphol is the Israeli-owned International Consultants on Targeted Security (ICTS). Many of ICTS’s officers are former Israeli intelligence agents. The online version of Israel’s Haaretz newspaper, Haaretz.com, reports the failure of ICTS, saying: “Even if U.S. intelligence failed and the name of the Nigerian passenger was not pinpointed as a suspect for the airline, he should have stirred the suspicion of the security officers. His age, name, illogical travel route, high-priced ticket purchased as the last minute, his boarding without luggage (only a carry-on) and many other signs should have been sufficient to alert security officers and warrant further examination of the suspect. However, the security supervisor… allowed him to get on the flight.”

It’s not the first time ITCS has failed. The firm also cleared attempted shoe bomber Richard Reid for a Miami-bound American Airlines flight from Paris in December 2001. And, on Sept. 11, 2001, ITCS handled security at Boston Logan Airport, Newark Airport and Dulles Airport, the three airports from which the ill-fated 9/11 planes took off. ITCS also handled security at the London transportation system when the July 7, 2005, bombing took place there.

There is another common link between Reid and Abdulmtullab: the explosive PETN. That’s what Reid had in his shoes that he tried to set off before being subdued by other passengers.

But Duff told AFP that the explosives Abdulmtullab had on him “couldn’t have blown up his own seat. Even if full power, it wouldn’t have worked.”

PETN is commonly used with blasting caps to set it off. The chemical concoction used by Abdulmtullab only caused a small fire.

So, to close the circle, who stands to gain?

First, every attempted terrorist act is met by a call for tighter security and better screening. Now the cry for full body scanners is getting louder. And who is making the most noise on these? People in Congress and those who are in a position to influence the sale of the machines. Some of them are:

  • Former Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Michael Chertoff lobbies for Rapiscan Systems, one of the leading manufacturers of the scanners. Chertoff’s department purchased five of the scanners in 2005. He hit the news talk shows within hours of the attempted bombing.
  • Another manufacturer is American Science and Engineering. It is represented by former Transportation Security Administration (TSA) deputy administrator Tony Blank, who also once worked for House Speaker Newt Gingrich. Also lobbying for the firm is Chad Wolf, former assistant administrator for policy at TSA and a former aid to Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Texas), who is the ranking Republican on the transportation committee.
  • Smiths Detection, another screening manufacturer, employs the lobbying firm Van Scoyoc Associates. Working for them is Kevin Patrick Kelly, a former top staffer to Senator Barbara Mikulski (D-Md.), who sits on the Homeland Security Appropriations Subcommittee. Former Rep. Helen Delich Bentley (R-Md.) also works for Smiths.
  • L-3 Systems is represented by former Sen. Al D’Amato (R-N.Y.), and is said to have developed one of the most sophisticated systems available.

But that’s not all. It just so happens that some provisions of the USA Patriot Act of 2001 are due to expire at the end of the year and President Obama wants them to continue. These provisions are a boon to intelligence-gathering agencies.

They are:

  • The secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court which grants the government “roving wiretaps” without identifying the target.
  • The FISA court’s ability to grant warrants for “business records,” from banking to library to medical records.
  • The so-called “lone wolf” provision, enacted in 2004, that allows the FISA court to issue warrants for electronic monitoring of an individual even without showing that the person is an agent of a foreign power or a suspected terrorist.

What better way to convince a skeptical Congress and public that an unconstitutional intrusion on liberty should be continued than through a failed terrorist attempt?
 
And finally, the military-industrial complexes of the U.S. and Israel stand to gain, as do the Bush conservatives (also called neocons), all of whom are pushing for a ramping up of military activities in Yemen. Plus, neocons like Gingrich—and most conservatives for that matter—have used the attempted bombing to bludgeon Obama as being soft on terror.

Remember, government loves a crisis. Crises allows government to push through things it could never accomplish without the people being in a state of fear and urgency.

Unfortunately, it seems the traveling public is going to stand passively by and allow their governments to squeeze them even more and use them to make pornographic photos, all in the name of a false sense of security.

(Editor’s note: My original plan for this article was to write on the dangers presented to the travelling public by the full body scanners. Sadly it seems now that their use in all airports is a foregone conclusion. However, my research led me off on this tangent, and the more I dug the more I uncovered. I realize that the vast majority of the public is not ready or willing to believe that agencies for their government could be so diabolical as to intentionally place people’s lives in jeopardy for profit or control. But I’ve sourced the information well enough that if you care to examine the evidence for yourself, you can. I suggest you do that before dismissing this out of hand. Next Monday I will write on the dangers inherent in the scanners themselves. But don’t be surprised if more on the bombing—and those who could be behind it—follows.)

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American who has been writing a newsletter since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • Wormwood

    Global Analysis – International Intelligence

    http://worldreports.org/news

    MUST READ !!!

  • Raggs

    Scary isn’t it….

    What most people don’t realize is that the health care reform bill is a major contributor to the government controling you by via a scam.
    If this passes you can forget about your rigths. This will be the first major step coupled with the UN treaties, climate control, and financial crisis. All of which in my thinking is a planned action.

  • http://personalliberty john baker

    My father fought in WW2 and Korea and he always said “Dont ever believe what you see or hear on the news This country has its own propaganda there are more secret agentcies then you would believe is possible” This current form of goverment has taken it to a new level. The total disregard for For the people by the People has long since been brushed to the wayside

    • http://Don'thaveone Sally

      I totally agree. We lived in the Canal Zone (Civilians) during the riots, in fact I worked in the Administration Building for the Panama Canal Company and could look out the window and see all the crap going on down on Forth of July Street. Most all of the information that was being peddled in the newspapers and on the TVs in the US was blantenly in error. That is when we learned don’t believe anything you read in a newspaper nor what you see on TV. Now we are fortunate that we can do research on the internet to at least get a little closer to the truth.

  • Paula

    Indeed, we are being and have been set up in preparation to become the sheep being lead off to the slaughter. Little by little, piece by piece. We are being lead also to believe that our enemy is Islam, Iraq, Muslum, Middle East. Ah, but who is really doing the controlling of all these ‘feelings’? Who is bringing forth hate amongst the common man?
    People somehow need to wake up to what is really going on. People need to stop believing what they read or hear on the news. People need to believe only 1/3 of what they see in real life. I don’t mean via the television, media, etc. Those are included in the to not believe catagory.
    By “seeing” I am talking about when you walk out your door and you see a dog biting a human. When you walk out your door and see a lady falling to the ground. If you walk out your door and see a lady laying on the ground, you cannot say that you saw her fall, so you cannot believe that she actually fell down.

    • ROD OH

      Paula, “Who is bringing forth hate in the common man”??? Well after reading many of the blogs here , I would say it is people like you and who think like you. What “Christian madrassa” did you all attend that taught such venom, hate and a total misreading of reality?

  • http://none Delores Gresham

    For those of you that have not read “The Hope of the Wicked” by Ted Flynn might go on-line and get a copy. You cannot buy it at most Book Stores. This Book will give you the Plan that has been developed by the Elite, the documented history of how this Plan is being implemented, who has been and is involved in the implementation and what is planned for America in the next couple of years. After reading this Book, that has over 1200 Foot Notes you will understand why things are happening and what is coming our way. If “We the People” do not wake up and get busy throwing out all of the Radicals, regardless of party they belong to, putting in office real Patriots our Nation will be Destroyed.

    As you probably know America is the only Nation of the World that is standing in the way of implementing a “One World Government”. This Administration has the mission to destroy our Financial System, God’s influence on anything within our Government, Schools and Personal livest, producing Young People who are in essence ignorant of the History of this Nation, void of love and respect for this Nation and are really been educated to be “Children of the World” just ready for the “One World Government” implementation and to put the Elite in control with the rest of us being their Surf’s. Please refer to the UNAgena21 Governance of the World on the Internet. Also, you can order this Plan under UN Agenda 21 from the UN Book Store. In World Wide Meetings over the past 20 or so years the U.S. Government Officials have been meeting with the UN and World Leaders planning and implementing the United Nations take over of all Nations of the World, establishing a “One World Government”. Currently the Obama Administration has submitted to the Senate 17 Treaties, if Ratified will hand over large segments of the U.S. Property and Society to the control of the UN and establish a U.S. National UN Tax based on our individual income. These Treaties include our Sea Ways, Raising our Children, take over of our National Parks, etc. Many or most of these Treaties does away with our Constitution and Bill of Rights. The UN laws and Regulations will also override our Laws and Supreme Court. Also, included in this handover is the NAFTA Trade Agreement and The NAFTA Highway. Again go on-line to NAFTA Highway and check out how this ties into this takeover and implementation of “One World Government”.

    I could go on and on; however all of this information is available to anyone who wants to find it. This Issue of the Intelegence Agency and Israel is really insignificant when measured against what is really going on. You may want to research this and write more about these Issues. 10:45 A.M.

    • ColinCody

      A courageous federal judge in California will soon (Jan. 26) be hearing the case to force BO to prove his American citizenship. Pray that the judge’s eyes will be opened if they are not already and that Obama will be prosecuted and convicted of fraud, imprisoned and deported back to his home country of Indonesia. None of the treaties, etc. of his bogus presidency will then be valid.

      It has been reported that BO filled out a form requesting a government grant for himself as a foreign student from Indonesia. This was when he was applying to go to Occidental College years ago. Someone obtained this information using the Freedom of Information Act, probably the attorney handling the case.

      • Meteorlady

        While I am not a BO fan – the part of about the grant is untrue according to snopes.com.

      • cr747

        I am a Lawyer, and I can assure you that you can’t believe everything that Snopes says or writes!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        cr747 – I check Snopes because they give you two sides of the issues at hand and allow you to think for yourself to form your own opinions.

      • denniso

        Snopes is about 1000% more correct than 99% of what’s on this site.

      • True Born

        Snopes is an uber-liberal funded front:

        http://beforeitsnews.com/news/83/370/Snopes_Exposed.html

        Read it and weep!

    • ROD OH

      Delores…people like you are the problem and certainly not the solution. Thank goodness that you are still and will always be a shrill minority. I highly suggest that you read some other sources than those that you have currently tapped into. All that people like you do is make these wacko pundits rich with your cult like thinking.

      • Stevie

        ROD OH, you sound EXACTLY like HOMESEC, who declares Christians, gun-owners, veterans, pro-Constitutionalists as suspected terrorists. And yes ROD, take that as an insult !

      • ROD OH

        Stevie…Thanks for not disaapointing me with your use of “backlash labeling and name calling”; which I am certain is always your first reaction. But no, I take that as a compliment, not an insult.

      • Meteorlady

        He RodO – there are more than just that book. An ex-CIA guy wrote one in the 1990′s I believe. He also detailed the New World Order. There are also three more books detailing the same. Where there’s smoke…… George Bush Sr. even discussed it openly on various occasions.

    • Stevie

      Ted Flynn’s book is easily the best single book on the real, yet hidden workings of this world.

    • ROD OH

      Delores after reading your rambling blog, I think I can tell you why Mr. Flynn’s book is not in most book stores. Book stores tend to only want to promote “credible, worthwhile material”. On the other hand, maybe it was in the “fiction section” and that is why you missed it.

    • DaveL

      How is the NAFTA Highway related to the NWO? It was supposed to be about using I-29 as a corridor between Canada, the US and Mexico to move goods around the middle of the continent and move them quickly. It was supposed to be good for trade and good for the economy and the local economies. It would create jobs too. How is that a bad thing?

      • Claire

        DaveH–I never have headaches but I think I am getting one now. Hint, hint.

      • Claire

        Sorry, I meant DaveL

    • cr747

      Delores, The BIBLE will tell you everything you need to know about what is going on all over the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Claire

    If this was a planned set-up what would be the point? Obama admitted
    Homeland Security failed. To admit failure in this type of situation only makes Obama and the Department of Homeland Security appear incapable. Or the underwear bomber and his backers were trying to prove that they can get by with anything. Or some sleaze in our own government set it up. Maybe I am missing something here.

    • DaveH

      Claire,
      There is no inconsistency in admitting the system isn’t working. It rolls right in to their plan to “make it better” with Bigger Government.

    • DaveH

      Admitting the failure of a system is always the starting point for suggesting more regulations to solve the problem.

      • Claire

        DaveH–I see. More rules and regulations. According to talk radio and the news media, it has made Obama and Napolitano appear incapable. His approval ratings are in the tank. So if he and the government is behind all this, why do they expect more rules and regulations will boost their ratings? Bigger government only causes more dissent among the majority of the people. I truly fail to see the logic in this.

      • beary

        Claire, who cares about ratings? They want control and they are getting it. Forcing us into a health care system that we don’t want and puts them in control of our life. Wiretapping us whenever they want, they are even able to come into our homes and search without a warrent. Now we are going to have to be naked before going on an airplane and they can put our nakedness on display through the internet. They can also save the picure, print it and keep a police profile on us.

      • Claire

        Beary_–I was talking about Obama and his administration worrying about their own ratings. I don’t give a hoot for anyone’s ratings. Bush installed wiretapping and it no doubt continues. I am scared to fly so I always drive. I don’t have the answer to all of this garbage. The only solution left to do is vote them all out and start anew. New people, new everything.

      • American Citizen

        Have you seen where 18 states’ Attorney Generals are considering fighting Obama and the Feds on the Health Care Bill? They’re looking at the constitutionality of it as well as unfunded mandates. Too many states are having budget problems for the Feds to force more on them.

      • denniso

        Claire…you are right to see no logic in this conspiracy theory because there is no logic…it’s truly an idiotic line of ‘no reason’ at all. Please don’t go there as you are more sane than that.

      • Claire

        American Citizen–No, I have not heard this. But in reality it stands to reason. Too many states are in a financial bind. They cannot take on any more burdens. Illinois is in such a financial bind that it will never get out the mess it is in. Thanks to the insane and corrupt politics here. Our election for Governor is coming up. Nearly all of the candidates have some kind of skeleton in their closet. Nothing ever changes here. Right now all I know is Quinn must go!! And God help us.

      • cr747

        Claire, hopefully more states will come on board with these already listed. Get in touch with your state government.
        Also Clair they need to get rid of Daley to. He reminds me of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Claire

        cr747—Get rid of Daley???!!! That is virtually impossible!!!! These people control everything in Illinois literally. Daley does not pay any attention to the letters or phone calls that he receives (unless you work for him) and Durbin blows you off. They don’t care about the people in Illinois. They are out for themselves. A person can only TRY to vote them out, but it never seems to work.

  • http://WND Bonesecos

    I wouldn’t put it past the NWO to attempt such measures. When the Oklahoma City bombing took place, I had a strong feeling that it was Clinton’s doing. He had been trying to pass the anti assault weapons bill through congress, but it wouldn’t pass. After blowing up the building with fertilizer the bill passed and assault weapons were banned. Why not ban fertilizer, after all that is what was used to blow up the Federal building?

    • DaveH

      Bones,
      I was listening to a talk radio show shortly after the bombing. A lady called in to say that months earlier she confronted a group of men on or near her ranch who were blowing cars up with fertilizer bombs. They identified themselves as Federal Agents who were testing fertilizer bombs for forensic purposes. Does that sound likely? Just months before the Oklahoma bombing?

      During Clinton’s reign we had Ruby Ridge, Wako, and the Oklahoma City bombing, as well as many mysterious deaths in his own administration.

      I wouldn’t put anything past Big Government.

      • American Citizen

        You can look at what she said two ways. Did she say they showed her legitimate ID? They could have been lying to keep her from reporting them. Who can believe what these days?

      • http://newswithviews.com sarah

        DAVE H –

        We can’t blame everything on Clinton and/or Dems — Ruby Ridge was almost entirely on George Bush I’s watch, beginning in the mid-1980s, but coming to a head between 1989 and 1992. The trial, however, was in 1993.

        And let’s not forget the bombing of MOVE HQ in Philly by the cops — eleven people were killed in that urban assault.

        Sarah

      • DaveH

        The seige was in 1992. It doesn’t matter that they were under surveillance earlier.

      • denniso

        So, even you are feeding ridiculous conspiracy theories for the mob to savor. Are you trying to get tim McVeigh off the hook for the truly evil that he did??

  • http://sheltonjames@yahoo.com james shelton

    This comes as no surprise. I told my wife the day it happened it was a sham.Always look for the money trail.But now it’s a little late to mount up on your high horse and cry foul.Generation after generation have flushed the other people down the drain.I’s not just here in the U.S.A. it’s been happening all over the world year after year.WAKE UP YOU BUNCH OF LEMMINGS. Save your own hiney that of your loved ones if they’ll listen.Drop to your knees and pray.Satans children are in power now and only GOD can defeat them.

    • ColinCody

      “Drop to your knees and pray. Satan’s children are in power now and only GOD can defeat them.”

      James, you are right. Not only have we turned control of this nation over to Satan, but the church is also not the church, the people do not know how to pray “effectively and fervently” (James 5:16) to get results, and many church-going people are not really converted to genuine Christianity, so, they are not on praying ground. We are in a deep pit of our own making over many, many years. We have no choice now but to soldier on asking the God of all grace and mercy to set aside or eliminate those who oppose the governmental and societal principles of the Founding Fathers. We need godly leaders of profound insight, unflinching integrity and powerful courage to take their places.

      Dr. Ron Paul is the only person of such character I know in government today. He would make the very best president this nation has ever had, bar none, and he deserves our prayers for his health and for more wonderful opportunities to further promote the truth to the American people.

  • DaveH

    And things aren’t going to change as long as so many of you keep voting for Republicans that don’t promise to cut back the size of Government dramatically.
    Scott Brown is a good example of this. People are so exited that he may win the Senate seat in Massachusetts, but read his issues page and tell me that this man really wants to cut back the size of Government:
    http://www.brownforussenate.com/issues

    As I example, here is an excerpt from Scott’s page:
    “In Massachusetts, I support the 2006 healthcare law that was successful in expanding coverage, but I also recognize that the state must now turn its attention to controlling costs.”

    Does that sound like he advocates less government?

    As long as the voters keep voting for the lesser of two evils, we are just going to get “evil”.

    Big Government is the problem, not the solution.

    There is only one Party that promotes Individual Liberty, Individual Responsibility, and Limited Government. That is the Libertarian Party.

    • DaveH

      For their Party Platform:
      http://libertarianparty.org/platform

      Some of their freedoms may sound scary to those of you who are products of the public propaganda system, but if you look into the issues deeply, I think you will realize that they would work better than what we now have with Big Government meddling.

    • Meteorlady

      I vote Libertarian every chance I get. Unfortunately my friends tell me I am wasting my vote. Not true – no vote is wasted when you are free to cast one. The media will not give them any credit, publicity and in fact, treat them like they are nut cases in some states like Washington state. I think all people deserve press coverage to get their views out there. There should be a limit on campaign spending and the major new services should be required to publish every party’s points.

      • DaveH

        Lady,
        The media doesn’t like Libertarians for a very good reason. Most Corporate officers (that includes media moguls) don’t want the kind of competition that the free markets would bring. They would much rather keep their high-paid jobs without facing the rigors of the free market. And the Libertarians champion free markets.
        Foxnews is breaking that mold however and giving them air time. Thank you Foxnews.
        I believe we are wasting our votes when we vote for politicians who don’t really represent our ideals. Thus, I vote Libertarian and hope that one day more people will invest the time to learn about the joy and freedom that our policies would bring.

    • cr747

      Keep voting REPUBLICAN you say??? If I remember right the Democrats are the one’s locking the doors and won’t let the REPUBLICANS in. Is there something wrong with this picture.

      Besides when you vote for one of those other dudes you are defeating the purpose of voting. Wouldn’t be so bad if they could win, but they can’t win.
      I am registered as a democrat, but as I have said before I haven’t voted democrat sense way back before Slick Willy!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Paul K. Davis

    One question–how does the bomber himself benefit? Why would he allow himself to be thrown in jail and potentially executed? Or are they depending on an Obama justice system to get him off?

    • DaveH

      Paul,
      Most likely he thought it would work. He was just an innocent dupe. And he certainly wouldn’t be the first. I doubt seriously that he would volunteer to burn the crap out of his crotch and then inevitably be set up for imprisonment or execution unless he was a true terrorist at heart.
      PETN, the stated explosive, requires a detonator, otherwise it will just burn. If he was a seasoned terrorist or taught by seasoned terrorists, he would have known that.

      • JackH

        Dave, these guys are willing to blow themselves in the name of Allah. Don’t you think a little crotch burning is pretty minor compared to dying?

        And, AMEN to Mark. Vote all of these suckers out!!!!

      • DaveH

        Jack,
        You missed my point. If he was knowingly working for our Government, he wasn’t giving his life for Allah. Thus, it wouldn’t make sense for him to be aware of the real plan.

    • Robert

      Paul,

      These people are being manipulated and used if not abused sometimes. The executer is the top of the seen part of the iceberg.

      We got enough manipulation in this country, let us politically educate ourselves and try to understand who is behind all the wars that we are waging for nothing and based false information.

      Robert

    • cr747

      Obama will pardoned him so he can finish his job of blowing up another plane some where else!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • denniso

        To think that the gov’t would set up a phoney terrorist plot for political gain is sheer lunacy and shows where totally illogical thinking can end up. You have to be absolutely cynical to get to that crazy point.

  • http://hkirkrainer.org H Kirk Rainer

    On a comical note, this story reminds me of the once-featured cartoon in MAD, Spy versus Spy. Who is the good guy…and the bad?

    I don’t know how to believe the story — simply because I cannot grasp the end-game of our nation’s military, intelligence and other “interests” in the so-called war on terrorism.

    What seems evident is that this is a perpetual war being waged on financed funding. How long can our country continue at this scale, whether by credible or conspired causes? Perhaps as long as we are compelled to by way of “a crisis”.

    • trust no one

      afghanistan ended and broke the soviet union is the “war” on terrorism heading the usofa in the same direction

    • cr747

      H Kirk Rainer, DO NOT,”LISTEN UP NOW,”DO NOT, “I SAY DO NOT” TRUST A MUSLIM PRESIDENT. ESPECIALLY IF HE WAS NOT BORN IN THE UNITED STATES, AND HE WEARS THOSE FUNNY LOOKING CLOTHES THAT I SAW HIM IN, AND BOWING TO A MUSLIM BROTHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Raggs

    Not to toot my own horn, but I made a post in another thread a few weeks ago stating that I believed this was a planned action.

    • LindyMaeUSA

      Good for you, Raggs! At least a few of 305,000,000 in this country can “read the writing on the wall!”

      • Stevie

        No make that 265,000,000 can read the writing on the wall. 20,000,000 can only read Spanish, and another 20,000,000 can’t read anything.

  • LindyMaeUSA

    There’s NO DOUBT in my mind whatsoever, the whole incident was SET UP by the US Government for various reasons, including MONEY (that’s always the first incentive) and more ominously: FURTHER CONTROL OVER AMERICANS!

    Even a Fifth Grader would “smell a rat” when reading “the Muslim Maniac had NO PASSPORT, NO LUGGAGE, CASH for the ticket, his father FOREWARNED the US Embassy, Britain REFUSED HIS ENTRY PERMIT, etc! HELLO??

    I’d like to know WHAT was said to the Schipho NW ticket agent(s), WHO said (whaever) to him or her and WHY video evidence “isn’t available” to the public?? This government pulls off such audacious stunts because THEY KNOW THEY CAN! Get it???

    Those who haven’t been lulled into the POLITICALLY CORRECT death sleep better “Tighten your seat-belts” because the NWO plans to shock, stun and ENSLAVE us plus the rest of the world while America’s “Silent Majority” stands by with their finger in their nose asking: “What happened??”

  • Emo Zipper

    Nothing is impossible. Everyone who has delt with explosives knows that most can only be detonated with another explosive device. When set on fire they only burn. Most producing a clear blue flame. Some just smolder. Any demolition expert will tell you that military explosives are designed that way. As fire is quite common on the battlefield. Accidental ignition is not a desirable property…EZ 01.18.10

  • Henry

    I thought security at Dulles (as well as the World Trade Center, and United Airlines) for 9/11 was done by Securacom (not ITCS) – part foreign owned, and with Marvin P. Bush (W’s brother) as a principle in the company.

    • DontBelieveEm

      Bingo,,, Securacoms contract expired on 911 tho, so now this new co. took over the (security) now we are safe HA! The whole New Word Order has taken over and it looks like We cant do anything about it

  • Leslie

    There is a body scanner that is non-intrusive (does not show body parts)so why aren’t people screaming about the ones they are currently installing at a rapid pace? Also, we are all smart enough to know thatt it is only the good citizens who will suffer from the use of such equipment, those who intend to do harm will figure out another way around this. Do we really think this is going to stop terrorism in the sky? Why aren’t we listening to the experience of Isreali arilines? Do they use body scanners?

    • DeJay

      It takes some time to design, develop and build these full body scanners. I believe this plot has been thought out long before the phony bombing attemps which makes Bob’s article all the more believable.

    • ColinCody

      I am told the Israelies do not use body scanners, they rely on excellent profiling instead. Apparently profiling works quite well when used by experts. I’m pretty sure it would be vastly less expensive, and it is certainly less invasive and less potentially harmful. We should, of course, be doing it everywhere all the time, but that would be too simple, and the elites would not get rich from it.

      • believe no one

        i dont think they take their shoes off either

      • cr747

        Oh yea they do. You have to walk around in germs and what ever else is on the floor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Rob M

        speaking of germs….whats to stop a real terrorist from spraying a deadly virus into his own face prior to takeoff, and boarding a plane and sperading this to all who are aboard….and they in turn spread it to their own destinations?????? Not a single one of us is safe. The foot bomber and the johnson bomber were fakes, and the claim from Al Quida today was a fake. Forget gold, buy lead!!!!

  • JACK W BARNES

    THIS IS HARD TO BELIEVE; HOWEVER YOU APPARENTLY HAVE DONE YOUR HOME WORK AND FRANKLY THIS SCARES THE HELL OUT OF ME AND SHOULD AWAKEN ALL OF US TO WHAT IS GOING ON IN OUR COUNTRY.

    • cr747

      Muslims maybe,!!!! stick together like brothers. I wonder who answers the RED phone at THREE AM when it rings.
      Or better still, WHO ANSWERS IT PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!! Obama is probably afraid to…

      Has anyone else noticed that when Obama is supposed to make a statement or a speech at one PM or at a certain time, something always happens that he cancels it for later. You suppose he has to notify the other Muslim countries what time he will be making his speech!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Bill Hicks

    Let’s see. We’ve had the “Buster Brown Bomber” and the “Fruit of The Loom Bomber”….both using methods of detonation to ensure they were caught! If they actually intended to detonate, would they not have enough common sense to do it in a locked restroom??? I smell a rat here!!! Call this conspiracy theory, but can anyone answer this: other …than sheer stupidity? If these “terrorists” are this stupid, we have nothing to worry about, except for losing more freedoms, in which case, the terrorists won! If you are not young enough to remember the terrorist attack on the King David Hotel…look it up…the perfect false flag!

  • Liza

    I, too, am not shocked at this possibility. I would like more in depth referencing than the news sources quoted, b/c when one tries to pass on info like this to friends and family, it needs to be airtight so it is believable. Bob is right that many (most!) are not ready to accept information like this. They have not done any independent research. Most do not understand the new world order agenda that requires tighter governmental control.

  • Hank Jackson

    If this is true, our houses are bugged, our phones, email, and everything we do is being taken in. The government that is able to pull all this off could turn anyone off in an instant. No election is safe, no person is to be trusted. If you can’t beat them, join them. Become a INFRAGARD today, sign up at the FBI website and become a member of government. Check it out.

    • DaveH

      Sure, if you want your children and grandchildren to live like Haitians or Cubans.

  • http://GettingAmericaRight.blogspot.com Donald M. White

    Thank you, Bob, for that most enlightening article about crime in the counter-intelligence arena perpetrated by government to take away our rights. I believe every word. You should be knighted or at least congratulated for working tirelessly at this for the past 38 years. I don’t know of any other motive because it transcends party and president. Most people probably won’t believe this until someone like the Pope, Thomas S. Monson, or Sarah Palin says it. You take a big risk in writing this, but the risk is even greater if you (we) remain silent. I believe this is a concerted series of acts by One World Order freaks like Bush, Clinton, and Obama to eliminate the Constitution, take away our rights, and create a United Nations government. Ditto for the Bilderberg Group, the Triparte people and the Council on Foreign Relations. I have written about the Bilderbergs on Hub Pages and most recently mentioned in an article about Congressman Chaffetz that I thought this underwear bomber was a setup deal by Obama to tighten up laws against us and to actually eliminate people. The scanners are anything but safe. Representative Jason Chaffetz of Utah got a bill through a committee of the house banning the use of scanners. Thanks to the underwear scandal it probably won’t pass the full House. Scanners are dangerous for frequent fliers like him – he goes home to Utah twice monthly – and it means being scanned at least 24 times yearly. I would be happy to help you research what this is doing to our bodies. I’m a former insurance company president and worked three years in Salt Lake City as an AP newsman and now I’m semi retired, writing a crime novel. Link to my last article.
    My article: “Air Passenger Scanning – Needed Or Not?”
    hubpages.com/hub/Air-Passenger-Scanning-Needed-Or-Not

    • Disgusted

      I completely believe our government would stage something like this. As the article said, the actual amount of exposlives on the guy wouldn’t have blown up his own seat – however the government knows that after 9/11 there only needs to be the perceived attempt and the citizens will be so scared they will take whatever the government wants to shove down their throats and give up whatever rights they have to feel protected by “big government”. This type of power grab has been happening for many years and we are finally starting to see it, lets hope the citizens of this country start to question what is going on.

      • DaveH

        As Bob said, it takes a blasting cap to set off the stated explosives.
        Government, like Hollywood, is just assuming that the majority of Americans are not knowledgeable enough to know those details. Unfortunately, I think they are right.
        As Ben Franklin said:
        “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

      • chuck b

        dave

        don’t know what kind of explosive this guy had on him, but there are “binary explosives” that don’t need much more than a match to set it off and a very small amount could do the job.

      • DaveH

        It was PETN.

      • John P

        Learn about explosives before you speak.

        PETN is an extremely high velocity explosive. Had a condom full of PETN detonated in the window seat, the aircraft integrity would have been compromised at altitude and might have as well on the ground. PETN does require a strong initiator (a low/medium velocity explosive) which it appears this terrorist did not have, or did not use correctly.

        You would be amazed how small an amount of the right explosive it takes to do a lot of damage if you know what you are doing. A ball of PETN smaller than the size of a softball will completely demolish an automobile (steel construction). An aircraft is made of aluminum and gets its strength from the the sum of its frame and skin. They are not designed to endure a large, locally confined explosive force; rather they are designed to take the distributed forces of flight and flight related (weather, atmospheric) disturbances.

    • ROD OH

      Donald…if you believe this crap then your next career as a “writer of fiction” ought to be a tremendous success.

      • Rod James

        Rod. Most people don’t want to believe this scenario! They don’t think our government (and the people influencing it) could be that dangerous and uncaring. There is plenty of real evidence that shows that “We the people” have lost all control of their own country via government.These things are possible and I think likely.

    • cr747

      Donald M. White, What has Clinton, and Bush got to do with this??? They know that Obama is so dense that he doesn’t want anyone in the oval office with him.
      Now I wonder what he’s hiding in there. Maybe some LOADED cigars Clinton left behind!!!!!!!!!!

  • NANCYRUSSELL

    WITH THE IONIZING RADIATION COMING OUT OF THESE MACHINES INTO YOUR BODY THAT TO ME IS THE REAL PROBLEM WITH FREQUENT FLYERS.

    • 4 Comon Sense

      I BET YOU WEAR A TIN FOIL HAT. WHAT FREAKEN PLANET DID YOU DROP FROM?

  • Dwain

    The Government of the US has used “False Flags” to sounds the drums of war and more and tighter controls of Americans since they blew up the USS Maine in Havana Harbor! The puppet masters win the Americans lose their freedoms. History tells us the Spanish placed a bomb against the hull of the ship but investigation shows the explosion was internal. There will be more false flags and more loss of freedoms as Americans clamor of safety.

  • Brant Robinette

    That’s definetely a lot of things to consider but I think I could disprove it with one point:

    If Obama and the progressives really did have a hand in this for their own benefit it wouldn’t have been a failed attack, it would have blown up the plane. There is a complete void of compassion and good will in that administration and the progressive movement, they’d have no hesitation in killing Americans to get their agenda ahead.

    • P.B.

      Hi, I do agree about Obama’s cabinet goes, but the last thing the Dems want to have happen is an attack on American soil. Just think about the rage that would be out there if a plane or bridge, or or what ever gets blowen up, the people would be sreaming for Obama’s and Nancy’s head. And President Bush and the republican party would be lifted into saint hood, do you really think clinton or obama or nancy p. want that to happen? No these little misfits with there bombs that dont go off is just what they want , just enough to put the scare into the american people, but not kill us that would do in the dem. party all together. Just watch what how the democrats deal with an attack and see what freedom they take away from you in the name of security.

      • and Jelly

        Start googling and you-tubing “Agenda 21″ or Earth Charter. All roads that we are currently being taken on lead there…and it’s already passed the U.N. Once you watch it and read about it (the real truth behind it) and feel like, there is no way…start thinking about everything “green”, community organizing, the health care bill and rationing, swine flu and the vaccines…etc. We are at war and most of us don’t even realize it…

    • Gary Geppelt

      You don’t have to have a downed plane to get the desired results. What was the quantity, purity, etc of the chemical. Did it not explode becuase the perp didn’t know what he was doing or because the chemical were not of the correct mixture or compound to explode. Do we really know what the chemicals were or do we only know what we are told?

    • http://Don'thaveone Sally

      I disagree. This sounds logical as remember Obama was vacationing in Hawaii and didn’t even come home like every other President would have? That kinda shows he knew about it in my opinion. I don’t think that he wanted it to blow up the plane either as he knew it would get across what he wanted done. Plus guys you got to remember, he is the first president really that we on the internet can get information all over the world and find out facts so if it were traced that he did no, he would be in bigger do do than he is already.

      • cr747

        Very well said Sally. I thought the same thing about him and her vacationing in Hawaii, and was not even concerned enough to fly back home. WOW IS THE UNITED STATES IN TROUBLE OR NOT??? I’ll answer that, yes we are. He was in Hawaii trying to buy himself a BIRTH CERTIFICATE.

        You can bet that George W. Bush would have been there in a heart beat.
        I thought that when the prez… was out of town that the vice prez… was to take over. I think he is ashamed to show his face. Or maybe Obama has realized He doesn’t like HIM. Oh!! I know they don’t like each other!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Rob M

        haha I said the same thing when he was in Hawaii, “I wonder how long it will be till he shows his new (purchased) birth certificate?” We should have checked how much slush fund money was in the account before he left and after he came back. How much did that certificate cost us taxpayers Obama?????

    • http://Mozillafox Smokey

      Well Spoken Brant, as the first commentator stated, its hard not to believe anything you hear now a days, with the politicians we have in power. We need to take that power away from them at the ballot box.

    • 4 Comon Sense

      Brant. You are dead WRONG. A scare is a more subtle way to get what they want. No one murdered. Let’s say that this bomb had gone off. Hundred’s dead. There would have been a out cry from the American people that you could have heard from around the world. There would have been HELL to pay. Jobs terminated and we would still been digging into why this was allowed to happen.

      Now all we have is what they wanted. No one fired, a major inconvenience of the American people, a few speaches from this administration and his sheep and the digging into this issue is over.

      I am not sure who the sheep are anymore. Those who are being used by this administration or US the People buying into this CRAP.

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        4 Comon Sense——Would you, could you say kinda like de-ja vu of 9/11 again????????? Over 4000 dead and the financier still at large?????????

    • http://Yahoo Dee D

      Right you are Brant. 9/11 and over 3000 lives proved that as a fact, on American soil at that.

  • David Forde

    Nothing nowadays would surprise me at all. The mendacity of western governments has got out of hand.Sadly in order to be certain safety when traveling by Air then thsese body scanners seem to do the job.

    • ROD OH

      “Pass all the FACTS along…”? I think your FACTS have as much credibility as does your spelling and grammer. They might be a good basis for a fiction book though…

      • http://aol greg

        This person can work on spelling. Your dumbing down is irreversable

      • ROD OH

        greg …you got the “dumbing down” part right but tell me something… where you looking in the mirror when you wrote that? But at least you gave me some hope. At least you know what the term is. Now if we could just stop it from happening among the conservative/republican backers.

      • roflmao

        Quote: “I think your FACTS have as much credibility as does your spelling and grammer.”

        “grammer”? (Try “grammar”.)

        Quote: “… where you looking in the mirror when you wrote that?”

        “where”? (Try “were”.)

        So much for YOUR credibility, Rod.

      • denniso

        Not too much surprises me,but I am surprised that Mr. Livingston’s conspiracy theory makes mostly repubs look like true villains and tarnishes the ‘neo cons’. Conspiracies for huge profit and power certainly ocurr but,wouldn’t invole Obama… the last thing Obama wants when his plate is already overflowing,is a terrorist attack on our soil killing hundreds of Americans and harming the overall economy even more. The military industrial complex is not dead,but I think Cheny fits the bill for this conspiracy theory more than some of the others mentioned. How could Cheny not be mentioned???

      • Margaret

        For the same reason as I did NOT claim him and Bush to be behind the 9/11 attacks, of which theory belief you accused me on the site “Airport Insecurity”.
        January 12 I asked exactly the questions now reported on this site. Do you remember denniso? You answered to my comment:
        “What if this underwear bomb was never supposed to go off? What if Abdulmutallab was not sent by muslim extremists? Isn’t it very convenient for Obama to announce, our security system failed and the government has to place tighter restrictions to the American citizens for us to lose our freedom more and more….”
        Remember my comment? It is strange though, my comment as well as your (silly) reply is taken off the web site “Airport Insecurity”. All others are still there.
        Maybe you can find a conspiracy theory behind THIS web site, denniso, as you accuse everybody to be conspiracy theorists and think, you’re the only one who gets it right.

      • cr747

        denniso, why should VP Cheney be mentioned??? I’ll tell you simply because VP Cheney has got a lot more sense than Obama ever thought about having. And definitely a lot more sense than Obamas pet sheep Biden.
        At least VP Cheney is not a racist like Obama, he’s not a Muslim, like Obama. He was born in The United States, not in Kenya, and most of all he never met behind closed doors with the Republicans, like Obama, Biden, Bug Eyes Pelosi, Reid, and all the Democrats.
        VP Cheney is just much more of a Gentleman, and knows how to make a speech without looking at a TELEPROMPTER, and has enough sense to write his on speeches. WOW WHAT A VICE PRESIDENT HE WAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • HEERWEEGOAGAIN

        “the last thing Obama wants when his plate is already overflowing,is a terrorist attack on our soil killing hundreds of Americans and harming the overall economy even more.”

        Did you really write that after reading the article? Did you think about it? If the event were staged (and I certainly think it was) the ObamaLamaDingDong does not risk your supposed terrorist attack.

        The result of what ever this was is more enslavement, more encroachment, more intrusion by YOUR out of control Socialist government into our lives, and more assault on what very little freedom we have left.

      • denniso

        And, I suppose you believe that aliens have landed and are in control and that they communicate w/ us via crop circles??

      • Michael J.

        Yep, and I think you are one of them.

      • Rod James

        denniso Oh come on! You can do better than that!

      • http://yahoo.com Sue C

        DENNISO! YOU HIT THE NAIL RIGHT ON THE HEAD, AND JUST IN CASE YOU DID NOT KNOW IT, YOU GOT THE VILLAINS IN CORRECTLY. THE REPUBLICANS DID THE 9/11/2001 HIT JOB, JUST TO GET CONGRESS TO RELEASE TAXPAYERS’ CASH, TO THEM, AND THEY, IN TURN POCKETED 2/3rds OF THE MONEY, AND USED 1/3rd FOR THE WARS! ALSO REMEMBER, THE GOVERNMENT CONTRACTORS WHO SPEND OUR MONIES, BUT NEVER PRODUCE THE RECEIPTS, FOR THE GOODS THEY BOUGHT. (EVEN A SIMPLETON, CANNOT BE FOOLED LIKE THIS)!

        CIA, FBI, AND OTHER CLANDESTINE AGENCIES, USE THE SAME STRATEGIES, TO GET MORE SPENDING MONEY, AND IT DEPENDS ON WHO WANTS TO GO ON A VACATION, AND WHERE THEY WANT TO GO, THEN WE GET A REPORT THAT ****OSAMA BIN LADEN****IS AT THAT LOCATION, AND CONGRESS RELEASES THE MONIES, GULLIBLY BUYING THE LIE THAT THESE THESE SPIES/WORSE THAN THE PROSTITUTES/HARLOTS SELL US, BUT ARE REALLY PAYING FOR THEIR UNDERCOVER VACATION. THEY HAVE DONE IT, INNUMERABLE TIMES, AND NO ONE IS PAYING ATTENTION TO THE BASTARDS, SO THEY CONTINUALLY MAKE FALSE CLAIMS, AND GET MORE MONEY, AND LAUGH/MOCK AT BOTH ADMINISTRATIONS, DEMOCRATS, AND REPUBLICANS, BECAUSE THEY WERE ABLE TO SWINDLE THEM, RIGHT UNDER THEIR NOSES.

        IT IS TIME FOR BOTH PARTIES TO WAKE-UP, OR THE AMERICA, YOU ONCE KNEW, WILL CEASE TO EXIST! CONSIDER, AND SERIOUSLY PONDER THE CONSEQUENCES OF GULLIBILITY, AND BEING HUFFED OUT OF BILLIONS OF TAXPAYERS’ DOLLARS, JUST BECAUSE OF THOSE WHO FALSELY DECLARE, WITH GROSS PRETENSES, THAT THEY ARE DEFENDING THE USA! THEY ARE NOT DEFENDING AMERICA, BUT THEY ARE THE REAL REASON WHY EVERYONE WANTS TO BEAT-UP AMERICA, AND AMERICANS, AND THEY DO IT, BECAUSE IT IS IN THE POWER OF THEIR HANDS TO MISLEAD THE US GOVERNMENT, AND GET AWAY WITH IT!

        TO US AUTHORITIES: WHETHER YOU ARE DEMOCRATS/REPUBLICANS, BEWARE OF CORPORATE AMERICA’S CLANDESTINE AGENTS, THEIR GREED FOR MONEY, AND ALL THEIR SCHEMES/PLOTS WHICH THEY ALSO USE, TO UNDERMINE INTERNAL USA, ALSO. YOU MUST MONITOR THESE LIARS, AND GRAVE UNDERMINERS OF AMERICA, AND GIVE THEM THE PENALTY THAT ARE MORE THAN OVERDUE TO THEM. (PLEASE DO NOT GIVE THEM COMFORTABLE BEDS, AND GOURMET FOODS! SIMPLE DRY BREAD, AND WATER! *THINK ABOUT SOME OCCASSIONAL WATERBOARDING, ALSO! THOSE WILL MORE THAN DO THE TRICK)! THANK YOU.

      • Save The Mosquito

        Posting your article with every letter capitalized hurt readability.

    • http://Yahoo Dee D

      A great possibility in this set of game rules our employees are running past the (no longer sheeple – now zombies). Anything at all to try to discredit this administration.

      • Jana

        I don’t think it is this administration at all. There might be some agencies in the Government that would do this, but I don’t think any President would knowingly do this type of thing, no matter how bad or how good he is.
        I have heard of some covert agencies that would do just about anything and probably have done things that we as Americans would be ashamed of. That is why we as Americans are against secrets in Government for the most part. Yes, there has to be a few things kept secret, but some of the different agencies have gone way overboard. In fact I even think some of these agencies act independently from the President and feel even he does not need to know what they do.

      • Claire

        Jana: Well spoken. I believe you are absolutely correct on this.

      • Rod James

        Jana, On the part about certain agencies keeping info to themselves and not telling the President, I would agree. On the “few secrets” kept by the government would be an understatement as classified information kept by the government is huge.

    • http://Steel-Foam-Buildings.com Andy Miller

      Dear David:
      When the first Supposed Terrorist hides something in a body cavity will you bend over to let them check you? I for one will not nor will I allow a body scanner near my wife, children or myself! I think we should replace our elected (public servants) so called, and replace them with people that want to (serve the public and not themselves) for no more then the average pay of the people they serve. Close our borders so people will have to take the normal path of entry to this great nation. Tell the Muslim people living In the United States to stop there radical terrorist operations or they will all be deported or contained until they can control there own, like we did in WW II with the Japanese.

      • Scott

        Ament to that one. This government, not solely THIS administration, is running off with our rights in tow. I guess if everybody wants to give up their privacy, freedom, and even their lives to a controlling government, we can send you off to the first concentration camp they set up. Downsize government control! I’ll keep my guns money and freedom…

      • Save The Mosquito

        It wouldn’t hurt to proof-read your post before hitting the submit button.

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