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Ron Paul on "End the Fed" (The Campaign and the Book)

November 27, 2009 by  

Ron Paul on "End the Fed" (The Campaign and the Book)

I’ll admit I’m prejudiced. I think Ron Paul, the maverick Republican/Libertarian congressman from Texas, is the best friend we taxpayers have had in Washington for, oh, the past 100 years or so.

So when Ron agreed to grant an exclusive interview on his efforts to abolish the Federal Reserve, I jumped at the chance. We spoke for 30 minutes on a wide range of subjects. Because of space limitations, I’ll only be able to cover part of them in today’s column. Look for part two a week from today.

If you’ve never heard Ron speak before, you might be surprised at his delivery. He is no fiery orator. He delivers his remarks in a calm, almost professorial manner. But if his manner is mild, his content most assuredly is not. What he has to say is far more radical, even revolutionary, than anything the average American is used to hearing today.

Ron Paul would actually enforce the U.S. Constitution!

Since he (rightly) regards the overwhelming majority of things Big Government does today as unconstitutional, that means he has never met a spending bill he likes. Or, for that matter, intervention in a foreign land without a congressional declaration of war either. There is a good reason that, among both friends and foes in Washington, Ron is known as “Dr. No.” (In his private life, he is an obstetrician who has delivered thousands of babies.)

After years of toiling in obscurity, in the past couple of years Ron’s message of limited government and unlimited freedom has really caught fire. When he decided to run for president in the Republican primaries last year, even he was startled by the size and enthusiasm of the crowds he attracted.

“Yes, I admit I was pleasantly surprised by the response to my message,” he said. “I think something has been rumbling in the country for a long time, and I happened along just when people were waiting to hear this message.”

And then he made an extremely important point: “I think we’re a lot further along in the freedom movement than some of us have realized. We’re seeing a major shift in the attitude of many people. I think this is happening for two reasons: First, a lot of people have been exposed to free-market economics and the principles of freedom. Second, they are being confronted with dramatic evidence that the current system isn’t working. So whether you’re on the receiving end of government giveaways, or you’re one of the ones whose wealth is being taken, both sides are starting to realize, hey, there’s something wrong!”

Ron’s message has found especially fertile ground among young people. When I introduced him at a conference in Las Vegas a year ago I was astounded by the numbers, the energy and the enthusiasm of most of his supporters, many of whom were high school students. The average age of the crowd was probably around 25, which certainly gave new inspiration to all of us oldsters who were there.

And by the way, I want to offer a few words of praise and encouragement to my fellow seniors who’ve been preaching the message of freedom for many, many years. I know we’ve all-too-often despaired that our message was falling on deaf ears. Not true, my friends! Young people have been listening, they’ve been reading and they’ve been asking some tough questions. And believe me; they are no longer satisfied with the reassuring platitudes they get from today’s politicians.

As Ron put it when we spoke, “Young people in particular grasp our message. They feel as though they’re going to be—if they’re not already—victimized. Whether it’s foreign policy or an attack on their personal liberties and personal choices, they’re very concerned. They’re worried about jobs and how they’re going to pay their bills; about Social Security indebtedness and all of those things.

“The most exciting part for me has been seeing their interest in monetary policy. They’re actually shouting out their support for abolishing the Federal Reserve! That’s been amazing to me.”

Ron told me the story of how his “End the Fed” campaign began. “This followed a debate in Detroit during the primaries. We were talking about the economy and I was claiming we were already in the middle of a recession. Well, my Republican opponents didn’t want to hear that.

“Afterwards, I went to a rally at the University of Michigan. This was early in the campaign and I didn’t expect very much, to be frank. But there were 4,000 or 5,000 young people there. During my speech, they started to chant: ‘End the Fed! End the Fed!’ Some of them even began pulling Federal Reserve notes (you know them as dollar bills) from their pockets and lighting them on fire.

“I could never forget the image of that happening. So of course it became part of my campaign. When it came to picking a title for my book that was an easy choice to make.”

(Quick commercial plug: Ron’s book, End the Fed, climbed to the top of the New York Times’ bestseller list and stayed there for many weeks. It’s dropped a bit recently, which is good news for you if you don’t already own a copy. Because it means you can find them at Barnes & Noble or Amazon.com for a substantial discount off the $21.99 cover price. Get ‘em while you can. And think about what a great Christmas present they would make for all of the students on your list.)

To be honest, I don’t think it’s necessary to read every word of every chapter of Ron’s book. Unless you’re simply amused by mumble-jumble and government jargon, you can pretty much skip chapters six and seven (“Conversations with Greenspan” and “Conversations with Bernanke”).

But please pay careful attention to chapter 10, “Why End the Fed?” Here’s how it begins:

“The Federal Reserve should be abolished because it is immoral, unconstitutional, impractical, promotes bad economics and undermines liberty. Its destructive nature makes it a tool of tyrannical government.”

So of course I had to ask him, “Other than that, Ron, what’s wrong with it?”

“Bad government destroys liberty” was his succinct reply. “And the Federal Reserve leads to bad government and bad monetary policy. Not only did they cause the present economic crisis, they’re perpetuating the problem.”

Ron has introduced legislation to audit the Federal Reserve every year for the past dozen or so years. And every year it gets bottled up in committee and never sees the light of day. But this year is different.

When we spoke, Ron already had 301 co-sponsors for the legislation. That is every Republican member of the House of Representatives and a bunch of Democrats, too. So it’s a shoe-in to pass, right?

Wrong. Although Ron has gained some surprising support for the measure, including Massachusetts’ very liberal (but very powerful) congressman, Barney Frank, the powers-that-be are dead-set against the measure. He expects House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to do everything possible to prevent a floor vote.

But at least the measure has been voted out of committee. In an email to me after that action, Ron wrote, “I was pleased last week when we won a vote in the Financial Services Committee to include language from the Audit the Fed bill HR1207 in the upcoming financial regulatory reform bill. As it stands now, if HR 3996 passes, because of this action, the Federal Reserve’s entire balance sheet will be opened up to a GAO audit. We will at last have a chance to find out what happened to the trillions of dollars the Fed has been giving out.”

Does either of us expect an easy victory in Congress this year? Of course not! And even if his measure did pass, despite everything Nancy Pelosi and her cohorts did to stop it, the chances that it will be approved in the Senate and signed by the president are just about zero.

And even when the bill does get signed into law, expect the manipulators of our money system to do everything in their power to protect their trillion-dollar benefactor.

No, folks, this will not be a quick or an easy fight. Ron expects the battle for honest money and limited government to last the rest of his life and beyond. Frankly, so do I.

But rejoice that the battle has been joined! The enemy has been identified! And the weapons we need to win—truth in the hands of an informed public—are all we need, and all we have.

Let me end today’s column as Ron concludes his book. Here are the last three paragraphs of End the Fed:

We have a natural, God-given right to our lives, our liberties, and the fruits of our labor. Protecting those rights is the only role that government ought to have in a free society. To restrain the government from doing more requires a morally determined people willing to assume self-responsibility, rejecting dependence on government force to mold the economy, society, or individual behavior. If the freedom movement continues to grow as it has these past two years, I would say there’s plenty of room for optimism. Freedom and central banking are incompatible. It is freedom we seek, and when that precious goal is achieved, the chant ‘End the Fed’ will become a reality.

Amen to that. Until next time, keep some powder dry.

And remember to look for part two of our interview with Ron Paul next Friday in Personal Liberty Alert.

—Chip Wood

Chip Wood

is the geopolitical editor of PersonalLiberty.com. He is the founder of Soundview Publications, in Atlanta, where he was also the host of an award-winning radio talk show for many years. He was the publisher of several bestselling books, including Crisis Investing by Doug Casey, None Dare Call It Conspiracy by Gary Allen and Larry Abraham and The War on Gold by Anthony Sutton. Chip is well known on the investment conference circuit where he has served as Master of Ceremonies for FreedomFest, The New Orleans Investment Conference, Sovereign Society, and The Atlanta Investment Conference.

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  • Dennis

    Just a few things i found in this HR3996 Bill.
    Topic: Federal Reserve
    END THE FED – HR 3996, the Automatic Bailout Bill of 2009
    HR 3996 will also formalize the today’s President’s Working Group on Financial Markets, or the “Plunge Protection Team” formed after the 1987 stock market crash to perform interventions in the financial markets and lead Presidents to make misleading statements like “the financial markets are strong and solid… This economy of ours is on a solid foundation… core inflation is low” from January 2008. The new group will be named the Financial Services Oversight Council and consist of economic central planners Treasury Secretary Timothy “Turbo Tax” Geithner, FED Chairman Ben Bernanke, FDIC Chairwoman Sheila Bair, the Comptroller of the Currency, the Director of the Office of Thrift Supervision, the Director of the Federal Housing Finance Agency, the SEC Chairman, NCUA Chairman, and the CFTC Chairman. (pages 5-7/253)

    HR 3996 will cede power to the FED to force companies to obey the FED’s orders if the company’s actions or size pose a threat to their own “safety and soundness” or to the “financial stability of the United States,” which are both incredibly vague and undefined terms.

    Section 1105 gives the FED the power to force financial holding companies into bankruptcy: “an involuntary case may be commenced by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System against an identified financial holding company.” (page 38/253)

    Section 1701 gives the FED “in unusual and exigent circumstances” power to authorize immediate bailouts and assistance to any “individual, partnership, or corporation.” (page 253/253) This enables the FED to neatly bypass Congress when the next crisis occurs.

    HR 3996 will be a colossal failure. There is simply no way a centralized body of bureaucrats like the newly formed Financial Services Oversight Council can adequately oversee every major corporation in the United States. Far from guaranteeing the taxpayer will not be robbed to pay failed Wall Street businesses, the bill secures “automatic bailouts” for the banksters and powerful corporations. While some may seem the regulations and control as helpful preventative actions to prevent economic strife, “too big to fail” is an outright lie. An orderly bankruptcy process of debt liquidation and asset reevaluation sold by the insolvent firms and bought by solvent, stronger firms results in the quickest possible recovery.

    • Jana

      Dennis I agree with you. We should have let them go bankrupt. As it is all that has happened is they have stifled the very ones that would have created new jobs. This bail out fiasco has tied everyone’s hands and seem to be trying to make it seem like its all so hopeless. If they would get out of the way, the good old ingenuity of the people of the United States would take over and we would come out of this recession. Instead, Obama wants to control everything.

  • Frank Neuhaus

    While I am pleased with the unexpected support Ron Paul received during the election, my feeling is that this ship has already sailed. We have failed to find a solution to the man in the red suit with the white ermine trim. Too many sheeple just can’t resist the temptation to get something they think is free, or better yet, a rich person is paying for it. We have the best product in the world, freedom, and we can’t manage to sell it to a majority of our population. Politicians are the most generous people in America – - with other peoples money. The job of elected official is just too good to allow principle to stand in the way of a great job with tremendous perks. We as conservatives/libertarians have allowed ourselves to be seduced by soothing rhetoric and a glossy ACA voting record. We have taught our leaders that we are easily fooled, and lulled into a state of acceptance and the usual back slapping, baby kissing tricksterism that assures us that all is well. Where were all of the voices we were depending on to inform us and resist our enslavemnet on the “big stage?” They were silent, that’s where they were. Perhaps they were fearful of being accused of racism were they to go on the attack with Obama policies, can’t tell you, I wasn’t there, but something is rotten in Denmark, as the saying goes. Forgive my iconoclastic p.o.v., but I’ve been trying to figure this stuff out for many moons. Let me help you avoid having to wonder about my meaning by saying: I think this battle was lost on Nov. 3, 1964 with the landslide victory of LBJ and the introduction of the war on poverty, the drug culture The Great Society, and the birth of do your own thing ism. That was the date America died. Why then have I continued to fight? Because one never knows what will happen when all is said and done. There’s many a slip twixt the cup and the lip. One thing IS for sure, and that is that if you quit the fight the outcome is preordained. Keep punchin, you never know when we’ll land a haymaker that turns the tide in our favor. Lest I forget, hate is also a wonderful motivator. Hate for what the left has already done, hate for what they are currently doing, and hate for what they will do if given the opportunity. I may have picked the losing side, but I would rather lose fighting for something worthwhile and right, than win fighting for the enslavement of Americans. Fight on!

  • A pen

    I am afraid the fix has been put in for the elections. A poster recognized the fact that ONLY a third party candidate will follow the constitution and both the other parties control who can get past their war chests and media mud slinging. You will see the 2010 elections being a defense of the good ole boys network complete with massive overkill wherever a race is close to being won by a third party candidate, fraud included. The courts are loaded against any suit challenging the powers of the now untouchable mob in DC. They just toss a bone out to the people now and then to prevent a revolt but they insidiously continue the march toward total domination and will soon try to disarm the public as the military boys get edgy with the state of affairs and are kept from showing an iota of dissent. This country needs to throw these bums out sooner than later and a good time would be when congress is off session. Constitutionally that is the only legal time they may be arrested and charged in their home states. This is the issue with standing, DC is not a legal venue for removal. All the lawyers and judges would have you all believe that DC is the only place to file charges too because they are all about delay until they can secure their power. These hoodlums know the danger they are in too as the vast majority were involved in seating the illegal candidate knowing full well this would mean they could never be brought to a court to face justice. They have no intention of leaving office to see what happens either, vote or not.

  • http://www.jointhesolution.com/redriverd Walt

    Here, here, here to Ron Paul.
    Great words and terrific works. Keep it up Ron Paul.
    If Obama keeps up what he is doing, you should be a shoe in next election.
    I completely agree with Ron Paul and the Fed should be done in as well as the IRS.
    They both came into power illegally and are STILL illegal.
    JFK was assassinated because he tried to kill the FED. You don’t believe that, then
    look up the US Bank Note that Kennedy adopted in 1963. They were printed in 1963
    and right after his assassination were immediately removed from circulation.
    How’s that for a history lesson. I always knew that the US government assassinated
    Kennedy and since I found out about his attempt to do away with the FED, that proves it,
    at least to me.
    Thanks Ron Paul PLEASE keep up the GREAT work that you are doing. And watch your back!

    • denniso

      walt…You don’t make sense. You people irrationally hate the fed. You say the fed killed kennedy. If kennedy were alive today you would hate him. I think all of you are having trouble looking for a proper scapegoat to kick. The fed is no evil boogey man..it’s simply an institution that helps regulate a very complex economy in a very complex world. Quick looking for people or things to hate and vote for good, smart people. Simple.

      • Claire

        Denniso—then who do you think killed JFK? Oswald was the scapegoat. He may have pulled the trigger but he sure as heck didn’t act alone.

      • s c

        Claire, if you want an interesting conversation, ask a gunsmith about the wisdom of using a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle to murder someone in a situation like that in Dallas in ’63.
        That German-Italian piece of crap is arguably one of the worst weapons ever made. And somehow, Oswald (anything but a world-class shot), did the impossible. Then, you will get around to pondering who pulls the strings of the Einstein who came up with the idea of the ‘single, magic bullet’ theory and his later ‘contributions’ to American politics.

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        denniso – The Federal Reserve controls all our money. They should never have been allowed to become so powerful. I’ll repeat MONEY TALKS.

      • s c

        You’re probably wasting your time on him, Dee D, because he sees the Fed as a simple, worthy, compassionate and humane group – like ACORN. Either he doesn’t like to read (lots of that going around), or he has been trained to ignore the obvious (that wouldn’t be considered pc).
        Perhaps 50 years from now, he might understand the many parallels to NATIONAL SOCIALISM (via Hitler) and obama’s tactics. For now, it’s too comfy wearing those special blinders that progressive ultraliberals are required to wear 24/7. It’s like fence-sitting. It takes a while to get used to it. After a while, you wonder why everyone isn’t a fence-sitter who needs to wear those oh, so special, pc blinders.

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        s c – I have to say denniso reads more than a lot of others who post here and he is entitled to his opinions. We all are guilty of relating to the way we interpret what we read, and many of us exclude and fail to take into account that everything we each read has a certain percentile of the authors personal opinion installed. But, I give denniso credit, he thinks for himself and does not allow others to tell him what to think and say. I don’t think he listens much to the hate spewing retards we have on public TV and probably never attends any of the rubble rousing tea parties or birthers shin-digs.

      • DaveH

        Dee,
        Denniso rarely makes comments with substance. Most of his comments are personal attacks. If you call that well-read I can only say “Wow!”.

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        Yes Dave – WOW. We all have our ways to express ourselves, including you. You try to reprimand all who stoop to name calling in one post, then in a follow-up you are the one stooping very low.
        I read your posts and I realize you are following an agenda to try to convince all to vote your party. That’s your right but you can’t fool everybody.

      • DaveH

        Dee,
        I treat people the way they treat others. If the poster is polite to others, I am polite to him/her.
        As far as fooling anybody, I only present the facts, maam. The people who are fooling others are the politicians who distract the citizens’ attention with one hand while doing their dirty work with the other. They are in it for themselves and will do whatever it takes to fool the citizens.

      • Jana

        Dave, DD likes to talk down to people.

      • eyeswideopen

        Dee, you are right, money that the corporations hand out to the politicians is what is running this country. Over 100 billion in corporate subsudies was awarded in 2006. Gee, that would have paid for alot of healthcare wouldn’t it? Anyway, Ron Paul, cannot claim to be for smaller government as he just got 75 million in earmarks for his district. Money corrupts all who want to stay in power, regardless of their mantra’s. We need campaign reform, along with stopping the socialized payments to the corporations.

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        Eyes: Did you view Johnathon Karl’s report (investigating reporter – we do have a few – just not enough) for ABC on the John Murtha airport?
        Murtha is the representative for Johnstown, Cambria County. I realize reps are voted in to represent their constituents but should they lobby for millions of dollars the tax payers must subsidize? He got 7 million $’s for the air traffic control tower – 14 million $’s for a hanger – 18 million $’s for a runway. In a recent stimulus package he received 800,000 $’s more to repave a runway. I want Obama to consider this an unnecessary waste of tax $$’s when approx. only 3 flights a day fly out of the airport.
        Why don’t citizens pick up the ball and run with it to correct some wrongs?

      • Jana

        Exactly. Just like the Senator from Louisiana just had her vote for the Health Care Bill bought for 300 million dollars, and she is proud of it.
        Sure speaks highly of her morals.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Guarantee you, that if Kennedy were alive today, he would not be a democrat. He abhors the things you do. Youve got him rolling over in his grave.

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        Bebe: If JFK were still alive, we probably would not be in this quagmire we are sinking in today.
        He was educated and I don’t think he would abandon ship. I really don’t know tho, I’m only speculating.

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        Jana – When it comes down to talking down to people — The talking downers are the ones who feels everybody else is wrong and only they have all the correct answers and are masters at twisting comments other people make instead of reading and trying to understand what any poster is trying to relate. For your effort I give you a bright blinking gold star.

  • http://none Thomas Morgan

    Keep up the fight Mr. Paul, you are a true patriot!

  • Ed Mullen

    You’re all saying Obama is a puppet of the guys who control the Fed and the US economy. Obama knows how to bow before superior power or he wouldn’t have made it up the political ladder in Chicago. Obama also knbows how to organize ground troops and he enjoys doing it. He’s holding Campaign USA rallys all across the country to recruit willing hands to join the Community Workers groups like ACORN, who support Presidential (DEMS) efforts while sucking up tons of taxpayer money.

    America is in deep trouble. The DEMS win by playing off one group against the other while shovelling money at all of them to gain votes. They all expect payoffs for their support. ACORN is of another color, however, a tax supported tool for political corruption, with strings leading back to the White House.

  • http://wvi Joe Spenner

    To get the real news about the FED, and to save readers time and copy paper, type these four titles in the search box:
    1. The Federal Reserve: An Astounding Exposure 1934.
    2. THE BANKER’S MANIFEST.
    3. Rules for Revolution. (Compare this with sly words of #2)
    WHAT IS, REAL?
    Joe Spenner

    • Patrick McDonald

      The FED has an astonishing magical power. The are able to create the mandrake effect. They help to make the dollar elastic. Elastic dollars stretch out to exercise more power to share in the spending bang on goods services and for projects. The FED help to contract the amount of dollars to flow in the world. Strange as it is, the FED provides a service for control of U.S. Dollars and in the might of the dollar. The FED might be non political. They are strictly business. If the FED goes elsewhere because they are forced out by big government; then the FED will migrate and find a new home. The magic of the FED power could go to China Russia Brazil and to other countries; where the new home countries to the migration of FED will enjoy the magical prosperity of the FED services. If the FED found a new home outside the USA; the adopted countries of FED control will relish and enjoy financial power privileges the USA once enjoyed as the FED’s golden child. i admit my significant other is not perfect; but we enjoy our combined power. The FED will find a new home country; if we force it out of our monetary system. A marriage with both its heaven and hell is what the FED is…is is is. A clever fox will buy bonds in both or an array of waring factions, countries. The betting is hedged for whatever outcome no matter what. In the aftermath of financial wars; some money forces will emerge rich and in the position to carpetbag drained economies. If ya can’t beat’em;join’em. Getting paid in script is like being dis empowered and you end up owing to th company store….a slave. Money buys freedom. America can have its debt rolled over; debt forgiveness and we can restart the American currency just as well as Brazil and Argentina in their great success story. Money is power. Power to buy nearly anything you want. The FED is our assistant. What say you?

  • NK

    A few years back, just to see if it was the truth about the Fed being corrupt, I called up the FEDERAL RESERVE at 4:55pm EST on a Friday. I posed as a college kid doing a paper on how the Federal Reserve worked. I explained to the person who answered the phone that I had been to the website but was confused, mind you this was not someone who would have normally answered from what he told me because everyone had left early. He volunteered to help me as best as he could. I accepted and proceeded to ask him these simple questions…

    “How can the Fed be a privately held company and function as a part of the US Gov?”

    He replied that yes they were a privately held company and that they were responsible for monetary policy for the US and other countries, printing money and setting the interest rates. He also said that they were in control of the economy.

    “Is there any way that I can invest in the Federal Reserve Stock since it is a company that is doing government work on such a high level, and since it’s a capitalistic society, shouldn’t I have the right to benefit too?”

    He replied, somewhat nervously, that he wasn’t sure if that was possible, but he didn’t think so.

    “If the US is a free and democratic country and none of these people in “control” of basically the global economy were elected officials, then how does that make us a free and democratic country?”

    At this point he got nervous and said he had to go because he was afraid he might say something “wrong, that I shouldn’t say”.

    He then clammed up and excused himself from the conversation, inviting me to call back during normal business hours on Monday so that I could speak to a person who might have “better” answers for me.

    The conversation I had with this man sent a chill throughout my body. I believe that every American should be supporting RON PAUL’s effort to END THE FED! And… the IRS should be next!

    • http://Yahoo Dee D

      NK – Very interesting. Do some research and I think you will discover that John F. Kennedy was assassinated because one of his prime goals was to dismantle and abolish the Federal Reserve and the IRS. If that is Ron Paul’s platform he won’t last either. Money talks.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        JFK was an ungodly man who made many enemies, because he was brought up in a family where they did what ever they wanted to whomever they wanted, and thought they were above everyone else. That didnt end to well for any of the Kennedy’s. Thank their daddy Joe for that.

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        You may have something there Bebe- The good book says the sins of the father will fall on the head of his children, unto the third generation.

    • s c

      NK, you got an unusual introduction to one of the groups that controls a large chunk of the ‘useless eaters’ who hold office in DC. You probably learned more about the Fed in one coversation than most who chase degrees in universities (including economics).
      Kinda makes you wonder who owns Bernanke’s posterior. Supposedly, he knows more about the Great Depression than anyone else in the US. So far, his decisions could have been made by a 5 year old.
      When you cross-reference what you now know with what the Constitution DOESN”T say about the Fed (and a president’s unconstitutional authority to ‘appoint’ the head of any private corporation, the Fed), it may give you yet another angle to ponder.

    • Jana

      Wow NK, good for you and thanks for sharing that. You need to send this out all over. Write a letter to the editor too. This is good information.

  • http://mog7@cox.net Muriel P. Goyette

    The last election was a fiasco unworthy of this great country. Millions of pink slips @$29.95 each have been submitted to congress to
    illustrate dissatisfaction with their performance. Are they taking it
    seriously if they have both parties in their pocket? The knowedgeable
    feel betrayed and uninformed by a nontransparent administration. We do not have to be trapped by two parties. The third party has no chance unless we MAKE IT HAPPEN. Citizens have a right to demand the
    results of the Electoral College and steps taken toverify the eligiblity of the candidate. Many eye opening and well researched articles are written by authors who are nothing less than guardian angels warning America of pitfalls unless prompt action is taken. Each
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    • http://Yahoo Dee D

      Muriel And nothing of such magnitude happened between 2000 – 2008. it all started after 2008 – Right? Yes indeed – clear as mud.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        It all started downhill in 2007, when it was evident that a Democrat was going to win. You can deny it all you want, but hey, facts is facts. Deal with it. Now, I say now, that your guy is in there, he has taken unemployement from 4 percent to 10 percent, and its getting worse. But I know, all these bad decisions Barack has made, is all Bush’s fault. You liberals kill me. Never can take the blame for the losing things you do.

    • http://Yahoo Dee D

      Also Muriel – How many pink slips were delivered during 2000 – 2008? Be honest and fair. Everything coming down the pike started before Obama.

      • Jana

        D.D., We all know how much you hate Bush. That is now a given.
        Bush failed most definitely in that he never stopped any bill from passing. In 2006 the Democrats took over and it even got worse.

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        Jana- There you go ASSUMING – You are making an ass out of U and ME.
        Apparently you do not read my posts at all because I have stated my thoughts about Bush. That’s a nasty habit we all have.
        Or are your party loyalties ruling the day and you only are being selective of what you choose to absorb from what you read?

      • Jana

        DD. I know you think your little saying is cute, but it’s not. I do read your posts. Not only from this site, but I have read them from the other sites. Hmmmm just how did I think that you hate Bush? What a joke! Really, maybe you don’t read your own posts. You don’t have to use the word hate to show your hatred and disgust. You can do that quite well my dear. Not only Bush but Cheney. You and I are so far opposites its not even funny.
        You adore Obama so much that you refuse to see the truth about this man. Yes, he is more Socialist than Capitalist. The next step after Socialism is Communism. OPEN YOUR EYES GIRL. With you I don’t have to assume anything, you have made it all to clear what side of the road you are on. Your stand which is Socialism is what is ruling you. You can’t absorb the truth because you are closed minded.

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        Sorry Jana: But I realized that anything I say will rub against your grain. You jump on the defensive and try to excuse what you are saying.
        I learned about that concerning my being an American born immigrant. You could not, nor did not or just refused to understand the concept.

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        Once more you are dead wrong Jana. Where do you think you have the right to prejudge anyone? I trust VERY FEW politicians period and the ones I do trust does not stand a chance of accomplishing much for the betterment of our country or her citizens because they are not on the take. Since they will not vote for big business, pharmaceuticals, insurance companies but try to work for their constituents they get nothing from any of them. MONEY TALKS and they have very little.
        MONEY TALKED very loud in 2000.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        You obviously hate Bush. Do you even know what you say in your posts? You are a left wing liberal finger pointer. Thank God for Mr. Bush, and all he did for us.

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        Jana: WE ALL know how much you hate Bush. That’s one major problem with a lot of hard nose party loyalists. (in both parties) They think they have the right to speak for everyone. Ignorance is not bliss Jana. All should try to learn a little about what someone says before they try to speak for them.
        Then there are the ones who try to stir things up and encourage any and all to hop on board.
        We can only learn if we are willing to listen, research and speak only for ourselves. That is called co-operation and sincerity. Working together and communicating is one way groups are able to come up with possible solutions to many problems.

      • Jana

        DeeD, I truly hope you mean that. On some of your posts you do sound like you mean it, then you have other posts that sound like someone else took over and that person sounds like a Communist sympathizer.

      • Jana

        DeeD, by the way where ever did you get that term American Born Immigrant? There has to be a story behind this term and I would love to hear it.

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        Jana: I have explained my position to you and another poster. Twice should have been enough for you.
        THE ONLY TRUE AND PURE BRED AMERICAN IS THE INDIAN. THE REST OF US CAME AND INVADED THEIR COUNTRY, THEREFORE WE ARE ALL IMMIGRANTS TO THIS COUNTRY. OUR FOREFATHERS WERE THE TRUE IMMIGRANTS AND THE REST OF US BEING BORN TO OUR IMMIGRANTS PARENTS ARE AMERICAN BORN IMMIGRANTS.
        I hope the third time is the charm.

      • Jana

        DeeD,
        See you don’t read and comprehend what you are reading. I didn’t ask you your position on the term, I asked you where you came up with this term. As it stands it is a contradiction to itself.
        I thought you might have an interesting story that it originated from. But, I guess this is just beyond your comprehension or your ability..

      • DaveH

        We can’t change the past Dee. What we can do is respect the property rights of the present. And you don’t seem to want to do that. Am I wrong? Do you support the right of citizens to make their own health care choices? Do you support peoples’ property rights (that includes their hard-earned money)? Do you support the right of people to live their lives unfettered by an intrusive Government?

      • eyeswideopen

        Dave, most people support everything you said, however it is hard to purchase affordable insurance, when you are forced to purchase from only those allowed to sell in your state at a pre-agreed pricing sum, agreed to by the major insurance companies who have the Anti-trust laws helping them to control the monopolies that they have. Where is the free market? Gone to crap, as the Insurance companies, own our Congressmen and our ability to choose has been destroyed. Capitalism for the poor, socialism for the rich.

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        Again, you are correct Dave. We can not change the past. It’s when we do not learn from the past we are destined to keep repeating the same mistakes over and over again.

  • Claire

    Look out for Aaron Schock -Republican from Illinois-Know anything about him?

  • Ray

    I believe if you check how many the military is attracting right now you will be superised. You might want to check just who are entering the Military.

    • Claire

      Explain, please. I have an inquiring mind.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Enlistments are at an all time high.

      • Jana

        I have a friend who is in the Army and he was telling us that they are trying to phase out some of their military.
        Now that fits right up there with why Obama is so slow at making his decisions about Afghanistan. I just hope his plan to phase out some of them is not to let them just die in battle.
        I am glad that our young people are taking to Ron Paul.After reading this article I realize he does have some good values and standards.
        We also have some wonderful young people in this country, who love this country.
        Reading this piece has given me a new outlook on R.Paul and I am glad for this information.
        He said bad government limits liberty, and the worse the government gets the bigger it gets.
        I do hope his audit the Fed bill gets passed. They need to be held accountable.

    • http://Yahoo Dee D

      Ray – It’s hard to get more volunteer enlistments, especially since so many who weren’t killed or butchered were mustered out with pre-existing mental disorders and had to re-pay enlistment bonuses and had to pay for lost Government equipment. Can you blame them? I can’t. They did not get necessary equipment to save their lives either from the previous administration.
      Research how many were being treated (neglected) in decaying, falling apart, moldy and unsanitary conditions in the hospitals back here in the states also.

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        PS Ray Under the last administration – Veterans benefits were cut also.

      • Jana

        D.D., Where did you get this information?

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        Jana – I research many links. But even if I supplied links for you, you would accuse me of only watching Democratic news sites, so why should I bother?
        I have no faith in a majority of any members of the Democratic party than I do within the Republican party. Most of them are scalleywags interested in making all the money they can.
        One fact they are not considering – they will take nothing with them when they pay the last obligation we all will have to pay. That will either be a new beginning or the worst possible beginning for everybody.

      • Jana

        DD, I didn’t think you couold tell me, you are just remembering something you heard.

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        Jana: It isn’t that I refuse to tell you. It’s that there is no use trying to tell you anything. You have very little respect for any posters that’s not compatible with your mind set. So why bother? I do not try to make anyone’s mind up concerning any issue. You have to live with every decision you make. I only hope any question I ask will motivate all to research and learn some unbiased facts for themselves.

      • eyeswideopen

        Jana. awolbush

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        Thank you eyes – but you’re beating a dead horse. No one can convince the un-convinceable.

      • Jana

        Thank you Eyes. I had also remembered hearing this, but I wanted to read about it and have the proof.
        I think it is shameful that we treat our veterans so badly.
        I have even ‘heard’ that Obama wants to cut it down further. But we need the proof.

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        Eyes: Wonder what happened with the link you posted?
        I already had the whole thing in print.
        You should see my album. I have a short memory also and I cut and paste and record items I want to be able to refresh with. News paper clippings and VCR tapes.
        Guess I will have to learn to burn info on disks since the powers that be has insisted everything become digital. Wonder if that is to stimulate the economy or to prevent old timers like me to keep a library for future reference????

      • eyeswideopen

        Dee, they deleted as they didn’t like how it protrayed Bush. Censorship??? Here it is again, let’s see how long it takes them to remove it again. LMAO> http://awolbush.com/

  • LOBO SAYS

    Jane,Don’t be afraid.That is what they want.Stand up for your rights and put anything you want on your bumper or anywhere else you want it.We have got to get rid of all of the do nothing followers in Washington.I spent two tours in the military fighting what this administration is trying to shove down our throats.I’m going to pay more attention to what Ron Paul has to say.

    • s c

      Thank you for your service to the nation, Lobo. When it was my turn in the military, LBJ and then RMN occupied the white house. I can’t imagine what it must be like to have comrade obama as a Pretender-in-Chief. At some point, the military won’t be able to attract enough people to get the job done, and that blame will go to no one but comrade obama. It’s not right that America should have to suffer for someone who isn’t fit to shine the shoes of anyone serving in the military.

    • http://Yahoo Dee D

      Lobo – What year did you serve two tours? Only two – you are lucky, I know some who have served four tours.
      Are you still subject to be re-called? Volunteer.
      Where you were – was the only source of news you were allowed to listen was Fauxx noise – like some that has told me that’s all they could get?
      Where were you? Iraq – Afghanistan – Germany Where?

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        Lobo – Since this administration has been in for only a year – how can your tours of 2 years have been under this administration? Just thinking.

      • eyeswideopen

        Dee D. very astute observations. LMAO

      • Jana

        DeeD, reread what he said. He never stated that her served two tours under this administration.
        He said,”I spent two tours in the military fighting what this administration is trying to shove down our throats.”
        Not such an astute observation after all.

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        Yes, Jana: You are right while I walk the middle.

      • eyeswideopen

        Jana, did the tours become 6 months each and no one told us? LOL.

  • Jane Seele

    The comment is above, I believe Barney Frank i8s from Minnesota and not Massachusetts , as quoted

    • s c

      Baaney Fwank is from a planet far, far away. He just happens to live in Massachusetts. THEY CAN HAVE HIM.
      Al ‘sell me some ethics’ franken is also from another planet. He just happens to ‘live’ in Minnesota. THEY CAN HAVE HIM.

  • Jane Seele

    I believe Barney Frank is from Minnesota, not Massachusetts, as quoted

  • http://none Linda Deatrick

    The first time I heard Ron Paul speak I was fascinated by what he had to say. I realized from the moment he spoke about the constitution that this was not about him, but rather a topic about something he sincerely belived in, as do I. Hopefully, Dr. Paul can get enough of a following so the cable news machine will become more interested in his views and let him on to speak. Do that “FOX NEWS”!!!!!
    I have purchased a Ron Paul bumper sticker, but up until now I was a little apprehensive about wearing it on my car as I live in a very hostile area. This reply to your website has inspired me to do just that. I hope others will follow.

    • c lee

      Ill put the stricker on my car. Theres not a mortal walking the face of this earth that I fear. But if we all stick together we can become a force to be reconed with. Lets all support Dr. Paul in Belief in spirit in our prayers and at the polls. Yea I walk through the vally of the shadow of death I will fear no evil.

  • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

    According to Hannity on Fox, Ben Franklyn, although originally a “commoner” from Boston, he also was a Mason and an Illuminati member, which apparently was part of a secret society to bring in a “New World Order” under Satan. Not only was Ben a great con-artist (our country would have never got past go without him), he also seemingly was great at telling lies!

    • http://Yahoo Dee D

      Victor- Why has the OWO or OWG layed dormant so long? You say Ben Franklin was the author? George Bush Sr. is the one that brought the subject up during his tenure. Yes, the Masons were a strong contender in their day. Like the Knights of Columbus and a lot of others. In other words another name could be THE GOOD OLE BOYS CLUB, which I will say the umbilical cord should have been severed a long time ago.
      The most dangerous cult of present day is the Skull and Bones of which Bush’s and Kerry belongs too.

      • s c

        Dee D, who do you think tells the skull and bonehead crowd what to do? They work for other groups. Peel back the layers. Dig deep. Good luck. It takes a lot of research, as these two-legged slimers have much to hide from us and the rest of the world. They play for all of the marbles, and they don’t see ‘losing to mere mortals’ as an option. [hint: they use the planned parenthood bunch to do their bidding]

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        s c- Money tells the boneheads what to do and say and how to act.
        You don’t understand do you? We the people are at the bottom of the pyramid. Our job is to follow every directive they issue, believe everything they say and work for the taxes that keep stuffing their greedy pockets when the powers and people they truly represent do not stuff their pockets fast enough.
        We are the government and we’ve come a long way in allowing our country get into the mess we are in. We have been and still are sloven worthless non-thinking citizens of this once great country. Do we know how to think for ourselves any more?

  • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

    Ron Paul will need the money and the press and I do not see him getting either to get well enough organized to win. I doubt that the Republicans will want him and a third party candidate only spits the vote and keeps the liberals in charge!

    • Charles Veitengruber

      EXACTLY!!! And it does not matter how many people “listen” to him and others. I have been preaching to any who would listen for years in my own little circles, but most DON’T listen. And you know why? It’s because the media is controlled by the oligarchy of the very rich. They parrot what they are told to parrot. Fox Network is a very minor and ineffective alternative voice, which is allowed only to show that America is “free” to voices of different opinions. When was the last time you had a true choice of Presidential candidates to vote for among the major parties? And how many potential candidates have you seen trashed by the media before they even got started? And all this while squelching any attempt at investigating a major candidate of THEIR choice. I predict that Obama will be re-elected, if for no other reason than that he is such a screw-up that he detracts from the main efforts being undertaken by the power-brokers for the oligarchy of the very rich. It’s all smoke and mirrors, folks.

      • DaveH

        Cheer up Charles. Obama is going to go the way of Jimmy Carter (one-term) when his policies start manifesting themselves in the economy (massive inflation).

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Stick a fork in him, he’s done.

    • DaveH

      Victor,
      The Republicans for the most part haven’t been much better than the Democrats at restraining government growth. If we keep voting for the lesser of two evils, we will still have evil. We need to “split” the votes as long as it takes to wake people up to the reality of Big Government. As an example, look at the number of people who have finally come out of their stupors due to the radical policies of the far left. If we had a continuation of Republicans, we would have just seen the Government grow Bigger, but more slowly (kind of like cancer in the initial stages).
      The only way the freedom lovers are going to win is to build their ranks slowly and in a principled fashion. The only party I know with the principles to lead us back to Constitutional Law and individual freedom and responsibility is the Libertarian Party:
      http://libertarianparty.org/platform

  • AForbes

    I believe the first thing thr people need to understand is these people that represent we the people are our(Representives)not leaders! If you need a leader look to heaven. For over 35yrs.the people have preached,get us out of the U.N.and the Centeral banking system. All that have apposied these criminals have died,as Bob said in his article which is more than most know how true this actually is! Maybe a sceniro like the Ursuper is removed from office by our military along with all the other criminals in the federal,state,and local parts of this fraud we call our government.It will take a lot more of us than there are now,they’ll fight us tooth and nail as they’ve been doing for years.With a military coup.Dr.Paul could be seated as a stand in till a bonified vote can take place,that is by getting rid of the machines and going back to a single piece of paper gets counted.It worked fairly for along time. Ben Franklyn was asked by a woman after the sigining of our Constitution. Sir what have you brought us? He told her,you have a republic “if” you can keep it! Blessings to your endevors toward keeping our Republic may God lead!

    • http://Yahoo Dee D

      AForbes – The head honcho’s that are in control of the Central Banking System is our very own Federal Reserve Board.

  • eric pastorino

    it is almost too late, a year ago we did not realize things were sliding down hill so fast, i hope ron paul is able to keep us together during the rough ride ahead….

    • http://Yahoo Dee D

      eric – And so very many of us learned nothing in 2000 – through 2008 either. We have either very select memories or a very short memory span. That is what the politicians know and take full advantage of. They think we are very stupid. Are they wrong???

      • Claire

        Politicians do think we are stupid. This is what they play on and depend on. They are counting on our ignorance to believe everything they say. They tell us what we want to hear so they will get elected. Yes, we do need to clean house but we should do it in the correct and logical way.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        I would have to add, that it does seem our population is very dumb, being that in 2008, a very unqualified, untested individual spent millions of dollars on commercials, where he said nothing more than, change-change-change, and they bought into it. Now all we are soon to have left is change.

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        Right you are BeBe – Just what did Obama inherit from the past administration? Oh that’s right he created the whole mess all by himself
        after 2008.

  • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

    Not even New York’s 5 crime families ever controlled a city as good or for as long as the “Chicago Mob!” According to Glenn Beck, we got the former “weathermen” started by two Caucasian’s of the 60′s in charge of the white house with the “Charles Manson” mentality (He was copying them) and I had thought that they were all in jail? Oh well. If only it were not too late for Paulonomics!

  • insideknowledge

    There was perhaps an understatement in the article. Ron Paul is not just the best Congressman in the past 100 years or so, he is undoubtedly the best Congressman ever. And a genuinely wonderful person to deal with on apersonal basis. All good Americans can have complete confidence in him and totally trust his judgement on governmental matters.

    • http://Yahoo Dee D

      inside- And talk is the cheapest commodity mankind was given. All politicians will promise you the moon – when elected they go brain dead and forget all they promised. In both the Democratic and Republican parties. They all lie, cheat and cater to big business to stuff their pockets.

      • Jana

        D.D., that is what I am concerned about Dennis Kucinich. He is a politician.

      • Claire

        Jana– The good, honest politicians (there are still some left) can never afford to run for an office. They do not get the endorsements, nor the funding from any of the “big companies,” from anybody. People keep voting Democrat or Republican regardless of who the candidate is. It is a vicious circle. I don’t think we will ever be able to break from this cycle.

      • Jana

        Claire I think you are right.

        When a politician has to think about his career instead of what is best for the country, how can we expect them to be ‘honest’ or vote their conscious? This is why we really do need term limits.

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        Jana – All that is required of you to learn truths is an open mind and research – read – follow the votes and stay away from propaganda spewers.
        If you want to listen to propaganda – fine but research and question the contents. No politician can hide all the fact if anyone will take the time to investigate. It’s important that all do this because we all will have to live with the end results.

      • Jana

        DD I would give you that same advice. You are a very close minded person. You stated in another post that you don’try to influence anyone. Ha, yes you do. You who tell others to be open minded have a very closed mind and eyes and ears.
        You who think that no one is as smart as you especially if they do not have a college education. This is what you have stated before.
        Why don’t you try opening your eyes to the truth and quit listening to lies and distortions of facts.

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        Jana – I don’t think I am closed minded at all. The close minded zombies are the party loyalist who know (think) one party rule is the answer. Take a good look — that is one reason we have made such a horrible mess of everything.

      • Jackie

        On these points we certainly agree!!!

  • http://none Lawrence

    WE NEED PAULONOMICS, NOT OBAMANOMICS NOW! We’re about to become slaves to the administration ruled by the current crooks in charge!!
    Note all are lawyers!!

    • denniso

      Why don’t you list the things that have happened under Obama to enslave you? Rather than just rant, do some thinking!

      • DaveH

        Let’s see:
        $2 Trillion added to the national debt.
        Attacks on freedom of speech.
        Attacks on peaceful town hall protestors.
        A concerted effort to take control of our health care choices.
        A concerted effort to use junk science to take control of our energy markets.
        Propagandizing our children in public schools.

        Do I need to go on Donkey?

      • Claire

        Donkey???? Now DaveH–you told some of us women to not get so personal.
        What do you think of Dennis Kucinich?

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        Claire – I think Dennis Kucinich – tho small in stature is one of the most honest politicians in Washington. I understand what he is saying concerning the health care package – however that was a platform Obama ran on. Obama is trying to keep his campaign promises (one of only a hand full that is trying to keep his word) and meeting nothing but distorted lies and brick walls and NO NO NANA’S along the way.
        I may be wrong but if anything concerning health care is voted in, then it can be changed in many area’s. Obama is trying to get something accomplished.
        Good golly, it seems the members of the Democratic party are the only ones who has tried to do anything about the high costing lack of health care for our citizens. Hillary tried but the Republican controlled houses shut her down and shelved it during her husbands tenure.
        It’s been shelved – brought out, dusted off and then voted down and shelved again for over 40 years. I feel it’s time someone grew a backbone and started standing up for American citizens.
        I just can’t get a grip as to why the Republicans in office do not want to help our citizens. We pay for their health care packages – why can’t we have some decent care? I think all of Washington should have to live by the same rules and laws they vote in for everybody.
        I’d be willing to bet they would really repair Medicare and Medicade and Social Security if they had to exist on the same standards.
        That’s the fight every citizen needs to get involved with. What’s sauce for the goose should be good enough for the gander.

      • Jana

        Clair and DeeD,
        Dennis Kucinich may be honest, I don’t really know a lot about him, but we have differing opinions as to what a health care bill should be. In fact all of the politicians may have good intentions, and they may not.
        There are a lot of things that should be done before going to the extreme that our congressmen are planning on. One thing is we are not allowed to go out of our state for insurance. We should be allowed to shop around and use any insurance company in the United States.
        Truly my fear is that just like anything the government takes over it gets worse, not better. We will get to pay for panels of people to decide our medical care, ie: whether we even get it or not, with no recourse.
        England has warned us that we are making a mistake. They have been down this road and therefore I believe them. France is trying to change their government run system to go back to private insurance companies.
        The Democrats are not the only ones who have tried to do something. The Republicans have their ideas too, but have been greatly ignored and the Democrats tell everyone that they (the Republicans) have no plan.
        Generally when the government gets involved fraud is rampant and taxes go higher. This has already been promised that all of our taxes will increase greatly because of this Health Care Bill. They are dreaming up all kinds of taxes for all of us to pay, not just the rich.
        I do agree that the government officials should have to abide by the same standards that they vote for us, the citizens of this country.
        Obama stated also, before he was elected, that this Health Care Bill would be discussed in the open, on CNN I think it was them, but some news station, and that it would be open for all to hear. Nancy Pelosi stated that when she became Speaker of the House there would be no more back room laws made.
        Neither one of these promises were kept. They wrote this bill behind closed doors with only Democrats present. This was not done in the open, and Obama has had a closed door to all Republicans to even discuss this matter. He has not been open or forthright in this matter and that concerns me greatly.
        We want to be able to trust our President, but doing things in secret, no matter which Pres. Bush or Obama does not promote trust.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Brain dead. Look what he did to Ohio in such a short time. The dude is a loser, and an extremist. He should be in jail.

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        Bebe: I feel compelled to respond and clue you in on a few political facts concerning Ohio. Who is brain dead? Who done what to Ohio in a short time?
        Ohio had a Republican Governor named Robert (Bob) Taft. A very good friend of Governor Taft was a Republican named Bob Noe. These two decided to invest in a coin deal using Ohio’s Worker’s comp. money. They were caught. Governor Taft didn’t even get his hands slapped. Noe went to prison. No money restored. Taft was also accused of lying and not declaring items and gifts and money on his income taxes that should have been declared. Once more, no punishment.
        Then there was a Republican, Betty Montgomery – 1st office, Attorney General, office in Columbus Ohio.
        Then there was a Republican, Jim Petro – 1st office, Public Accountant, office in Cincinnati, Ohio.
        Some where along the way Montgomery and Petro changed offices. No election as I recall.
        Montgomery -Public Accountant, office in Columbus. Petro Attorney General, office in Columbus. These two were the watchdogs for the public servants investments (school teachers – police officers – fireman) retirement funds. Money misappropriated and spent while the watch dogs were not barking. No one prosecuted, no money returned.
        All these actions were published in the Columbus Dispatch and revealed on the boob tube.
        Answer me if you can—-Why does any Politician (especially Republicans) in any office seem to always dip into the working man’s investments? At state, City, County and Federal levels?
        I think it was you who said you wished Social Security had been privatized. I don’t know your age, but I also have payed into SS all my working life and I do resent both Democrat and Republican administrations taking the surplus and spending it on everything but it’s intended purpose. Since you wished it had been privatized I want to thank you for wishing all who draws benefits would lose it all. You are a true American. If you are a baby boomer and you’re convinced it will not be there for you, why did you not try to keep Washington from playing around with it?

      • s c

        DaveH, You might ask him if enslave is in his dictionary. I am assuming that a progressive ultraliberal has a dictionary, even if most of the words have been re-defined, and then filtered through a pc committee so the new definition can be considered ‘blessed.’
        Obviously, some people think comrade obama can walk on water, turn water into wine and when properly motivated via a pc photo-op media circus, raise the dead. How else can they rely on legions of dead voters for the next election?

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        Jana – What do you think the public option is all about? Why are so many Republicans and blue dogs (repugs riding the donkey logo) fighting the public option so venomously? Of course party loyalists know they have their constituents interest at heart. So they try to convince you and apparently are doing a pretty good job. So much apathy from our voters who refuse to research anything to cast intelligent votes and then follow the action and correct any mistake they may have made at the voting booth.
        Do you truly think that the politicians want a government controlled health care package, or do the honest ones wants the public to have a choice and give the insurance companies some competition? Why are the No NO’s and Blue Dog misfits fighting this deal now, like they have been for the past 40 years? Only with competition can the prices be kept down to make it affordable for everyone.
        The wanna get rich politicians do not want their money tree to die at the roots. They are willing to cater to the pharmaceuticals and big insurance companies and are willing to sacrifice any and all citizens (young, old, teens, baby’s) to keep the money rolling into their pockets. They are supposed to be representing us, their employers, but they know they don’t have too. We are too stupid to even know just what they are doing in Washington and I fear the party loyalists are showing them they are correct.
        You can purchase insurance policies from any state in our nation – they just want you not to be able to go out of the states for your medication.
        We have a mail order medication supplier, called med-co. Owned and operated by the big high priced pharmaceuticals. They can purchase the medication from all around the world for pennies and make a large profit from people who needs the medication. They do not want any citizen to purchase from anyone but them. They want to continue dominating all and could care less if people die or can not afford to pay their exuberant prices. It’s about $$$$$ to them and maintaining control of the masses.
        If you doubt me and have any friends you can talk too that may be retired and are losing their health benefits from the company they retired from – talk to them. Let them give you the straight talk about what is happening in their lives.
        Med-Co wormed their way into the manufacturing industry covering meds for all workers including retirees. At first the co-pay for each prescription was $5.00 for all medication. Then with each purchase the co-pay would jump approx. $2.00 per prescription. Then co-pays for generics went to $16.00 and natural went to $25.00. Now on Dec.31 every employee including retirees will lose all medical coverage. One medication I am on will go from $25.00 to $527.59 for a 3 month supply and it is a generic. They put any price tag they choose on any and all drugs whenever they choose. You will buy or do without., they can care less. I will not be able to afford it for very long because the Republicans and red dogs are also trying to reduce medicare and medicade benefits for us senior citizens.
        Another worthless Insurance Company is Anthem BC/BS. They used to be the best carrier for all their policy holders but again greed entered the picture. They wormed their way into the manufacturing markets for contracts. They become secondary insurers who pay next to nothing to nothing for all medical services on the policyholders. They dropped a lot of senior citizens in eastern Ohio who had them for years paying their premiums which kept rising every year by the COLA index. That is costs went up but not benefits for the people.
        Do much more research because you may be in the same position far too many people are already in today.
        Insurance reform is all about trying to make it affordable for all citizens and not Government control – I really should not say not for Government control because with all the watering down and supplements and changes being added by the Republicans and blue dogs – no one knows what has been added or deleted from the original draft. We are hearing nothing about what any of the nay-sayers are saying except they are trying to kill the public option. Without the public option the medical industry will continue to control all pricing and coverage for only the ones they choose to cover.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        This reply is to Dee Dee. Why do we not want the public option? Are you nuts? Have you read it and understand what its about? And you still want it? You have got to be either crazy, or uneducated. Why you said you were against abortion, yet this public option contains a fine that all will pay to fund abortions. Check it out, its in there.

      • Jana

        Dee D, I am against the public option because it intends to eventually become the only option.

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        Dave- The 2 trillion was added to what size of a deficit he inherited?
        He hasen’t started any illegal wars yet.
        His increase on the deficit was spent here in America and not shoved into the pockets of the friends and businesses of Cheney.
        What issue have you read where you say he infringes on freedom of speech?
        Taking freedoms away from the town hall protestors like the Birthers – (friendly?) Birthers are on the fringe of American politics, they are part of a wider surge of rightwing anger toward Obama’s perceived socialist policies that seems to be sweeping the country. They’ve labeled him a Socialist – Demogog – Muselum – Communist and of mocking his way into a position of control. They refuse to openly admit the axe they have to grind is an educated and intelligent black man was voted in fair and square (no rigged polls) and it riles them to no end.
        Have you read anything about the Health Care issue? Far from perfect thanks to the watering down by the No Republican members and the Blue Dogs who have held up anything to be done with the bills for over 40 years.
        Since when anyone encouraging school children to stay in school and get an education is propaganizing school children? Of course that should start in their home but some parents are rather lax in performing their duties. If you read what he said to the children, did you not understand what he said?

      • Claire

        DeeD—-excellent choice of words. You are so correect in what you say.

      • DaveH

        Dee,
        I was talking National Debt, not deficit. But both are increasing dramatically faster under Obama.

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        Dave: A deficit is a shortage exceeding a profit, regardless of what end of the expenditures are on.

      • Jana

        Dee, do you even read what you write. You say it is all watered down because of the Republicans, yet the Republicans have not been allowed to even give any suggestions.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Get educated Dee. Please get educated. The guy is killing us. Quit sticking up for him, just because of your left wing liberal agenda. The guy is destroying us from the inside, bankrupting us and causing division everywhere he goes. Of course, the democrats do specialize in division. They love to divide us all from our money and give it to those who dont want to work.

      • DaveH

        A deficit, Dee, occurs when the Government expenditures exceed their revenues.

      • Carolina Tex

        Why call them a Donkey. I like JackAss better

      • Claire

        When someone does not agree with you, there is no reason why there should be name=calling. Everyone harps about freedom of speech, well, practice what you preach.

      • DaveH

        Claire,
        Denniso constantly launches personal attacks against others. If you read the comment that I responded to you can see it’s another of many personal attacks. I am just treating Denniso as he treats others.

      • eyeswideopen

        Dave, yes, I think a depression would have been a much better ave. rather than trying to save this country. Alot of the cost of the debit are the two wars which continue to this day and were unfunded….probably because the tax cuts stopped the needed revenue from being collected…..the rich just had to have a tax cut. Propagandizing the children? Didn’t you finally realize that no one at the school where the singing took place, called Obama and asked him if they should do that song. He had nothing to do with that, you are not living in the real world, if you think every middle school checks with the President on their school programs. Freedom of speech? Whose has been denied? The Patriot Act is going to be repealed, but that wasn’t Obama’s debacle. Attacks on town halls? You have got to be kidding, the tea baggers are the most rude protectors in our recent history. You are sounding more like a right winger than a libertarian….

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        If you aint on the right, you aint right.

      • DaveH

        I’m glad you admit your hatred for this country Eyes. From your comment:
        “I think a depression would have been a much better ave. rather than trying to save this country”.

        No propaganda by Obama? He doesn’t control the Department of Education?
        http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/culture/education/1818

      • DaveH

        Freedom of Speech not under attack? Ever heard of Net Neutrality? You aren’t aware that the Democrats are trying to control the Internet?
        You aren’t aware that the Obama administration is trying to silence conservative talk radio?
        http://yidwithlid.blogspot.com/2009/02/beware-obamas-stealth-censorship-of.html

      • DaveH

        Attacks on Town Halls? The “tea-baggers” are rude? Notice the SEIU inscription on the thugs tee-shirts:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTXBOgPCh9w

      • DaveH

        I am sounding like a right-winger? You are sounding like a zealot Eyes, who will deny any evidence to the contrary of his beliefs.

      • Jana

        Eyes, the town Hall protesters were not rude. They have the right to be heard. After the Tea Party in Washington took place it was clean unlike after the inauguration of the Pres. and all of the leftists were there partying and making a big mess. It cost a lot of money to clean up their mess. Now that’s rude!

      • eyeswideopen

        Dave, net neturality, sure I know that John McCain is representing the wireless industry and has taken 875,000 dollars from them to vote against the consumer. I totally aware of how the major cable, companies and wireless industry want to fix it to charge us for internet useage. Follow the money Dave, If a Senator has received almost a million dollars from the lobbyists, it is pretty certain that he will be voting for their interests and not ours.

      • eyeswideopen

        Jana, darling, I went to the tea party in Clermont, Fl. and it was rude and ugly. Our Rep. Ginny Brown Waite, wouldn’t even talk to the St. Pete times, as she doesn’t like the fact that they call her on her crap. Three of us were trying to find anyone under 50 at the meeting and out of the 200 we polled, we found 4. They had the meeting at 2:30 in afternoon, so no younger people could attend. Such the Republican way. Every person who asked a question about expanding the insurance plans, were shouted down and called names. So, it must be that our older persons are more radical than yours.

      • denniso

        daveH.Call me names, it doesn’t change facts.
        Debt…Repubs ran up the debt and a dem(clinton) balanced the budget and produced a surplus..Bush busted the budget with a trillion $ tax cut for the rich and the trillion $ drug plan. Add in the hundreds of billions for 2 wars that he badly mismannaged and didn’t finish and then the economy crashing in his term. Obama then comes in and does what every other country affected by the collapse is doing..stimulus spending to get the economy going again.
        Freedom of speech…Obama’s people call fox news partisan and you call that attacking freedom of speech?You don’t remember that Bush actually paid supposedly independent journalists big $$ to write favorable stories and pretend that they weren’t bought off by Bush. That is what Iran does…control of the media.
        Junk science…Bush muzzled all real scientists in the fed gov’t. EPA,FDA,NASA..When any scientific findings contradicted the party line, they were buried and individual scientists were told to keep quiet. Junk science??
        Your other gripes are too pointless to address.

      • DaveH

        Denniso,
        20% of the population pays 80% of the taxes. You call that fair; I call it theft.
        Anybody can, as you do, make unsupported claims. I supplied links to address each of my comments. All you supply is hot air to support what you want to believe.

      • eyeswideopen

        Dave, your rich buddies are avoiding the IRS by hiding their money in off shore accounts. So, the rest of us are having to pay their share to maintain the infrastructure that they also use. Corporations are receiving socialist subsidies while the working class are having to cope with the huge costs of just living.

      • Curtis S

        If 20% of the population earns 80% of the nation’s income then they should pay 80% of the taxes, that would only be fair (if you consider personal income tax to be fair?).

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Well he has spent more in 8 months than Bush admin did in 8 years. He has indebted my grandchildrens grandchildren. He has weakened America time and time again, even apoligizing and kissing the butt of our enemies. He has gotten into bed with anti Americans like George Soros. He has surround himself with terrorists like Bill Ayers and racists like Rev. Wright. He has proposed to take my money and give it to some dudes that want to sit on a porch and drink 40′s and smoke dope all day instead of working. He has balooned government, as they only jobs he has created are government jobs, which if you care to know, we, the tax payers pay for. He wants to shove socialized medicine down our throats, and I dont want it. He is just not good for this country, but I for one, refuse to let him or anyman enslave me. Its just not going to happen.

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        Bebe: This was in the Cinn. Enquirer. I have not verified it yet but maybe some might like to research it also.
        Deficit was 871 Billion in 1980.
        Ragan Deficit was 3.7 or 3.8 Trillion
        1st Bush – ” ” 4.8 ”
        Clinton ” ” 5.6 ”
        2nd Bush ” ” 11.5 ”
        If you have better figures – please share.

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        1st Bush – Clinton – 2nd Bush in the trillions.

    • http://Yahoo Dee D

      What do you mean we are about to become the slaves?? We Main Street Americans have always been at the bottom of the pyramid and been in bondage for years. Wonder why. Could it be we are as stupid as they think we are. awe go to the voting booth and keep on putting the same-o, same-o back in office election after election. We never learn.

  • Pam French

    What’s the plan?????

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Vote out the incumbants in both parties. Enough is enough. Time to let our voices be heard. Send the message to them now. We have the power, not them.

      • larry

        This means ALL the incumbents i.e., the good, the bad and the ugly!

      • denniso

        Beberoni…don’t you remember that was the plan back in ’94? One of your heroes, Gengerich, said the exact same thing..of course, all he wanted was more power for himself, since he knew that new congress people would not be prepared to take power and he would be in a better position to exercise total control himself.
        Your plan won’t happen and wouldn’t work anyway. It takes time to learn the ropes in DC and you deprive the party you favor of needed support by getting rid of incumbents..but, by all means, try it because I relish the idea of you and your type losing even more power.

      • DaveH

        Round up some crows. You will be eating some soon. People are finally seeing through the Liberal facade of intelligence. And transparent Liberals like you are aiding that enlightenment.

      • http://Yahoo Dee D

        denniso – The way the system is set up on a rotating system – no one can vote every incumbent out in one election.
        One must be careful tho because backdoor politics can help one party garner a lot of votes.

      • eyeswideopen

        denniso, they don’t even remember the Contract with America, that the Repubs came up with and didn’t honor. They have convienent memory loss when it comes to taking responsibility for anything.

      • Jana

        Eyes, I don’t have any memory loss. I have written the Republican Party on numerous occasions complaining about that and many other things that makes me upset with them.

      • Jackie

        You are absolutely wrong. We do remember the contract with America and the broken promises, that is why the democrats are back in power because the liars were thrown out. Now we have another group of liars who will also be thrown out.

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Its Gingerich. And he isnt my hero. Never really cared for the guy. You see, Im not like you. Im not going to support someone just because they are of a certain party, like you blind liberals do. No, I never cared for the guy, so group me into your assinine beliefs.

      • Jana

        BB, I feel the same way about him. I do not trust him..

      • eyeswideopen

        Actually, his name is spelled Gingrich. I have sent him enough letters that I am familiar with his name.

      • denniso

        EYO…thanks for the spelling correction on Gingrich..I wasn’t sure but didn’t want to waste my time looking it up. The real point,though, is that he is a sleazeball and I can’t believe he still has any following at all in the repub party…sad, it shows what level the party has fallen to. There once were sane,moderate people in the repub party and they’ve been driven out by the lunatics. Now some of these people scream about the crooks in office after they’ve helped drive off the good people by supporting candidates like Palin,someone who appeals to the fringe but not to most moderate voters.

      • DaveH

        Denniso,
        Your statement “I wasn’t sure but didn’t want to waste my time looking it up” speaks volumes about your attitude. Heaven forbid that you should waste any of your time reading and verifying your statements.

      • eyeswideopen

        Dave, what’s funny is that Berberoni is correcting someone and he is wrong. LOL.

    • James

      Pam F, the plan is to end the federal reserve banking system, by repealing the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, which created it.

  • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

    If only Ron Paul could have been president, but that isn’t what those voters during the election wanted. All I can say now is “Don’t buy until you see our blood in the street” will not work this time because there will be none of us left! America will get what it really wanted probably, when our government sells us slaves to our enemies to bail out the debt that was created when they stole “our” money to make them selves even richer! The “rich”, such as George Thoros(sp?)are out to steal away all our money! When our constitution said “We the people,” they obviously met our corrupt politicians, not us “commoners!”

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      Its George Soros, and he owns the Democratic Party. They owe him bigtime, and will do many anti-American things to pay him back, as he is a very anti-American person. For this party to get in bed with him, says loads and loads about them.

      • http://victorbarney@embarqmail.com Victor L Barney

        Beberoni: Thanks for the correction on the name, George Soros. This guy may well belong to the Democratic Party, but what about the “New World Order” father and son presidents named Bush? They also belong to a satanic society i.e., Skull and Crossbones. It’s all the same to me!

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        Urban myth.

      • http://kibitzer-truthseeker.blogspot.com Stan

        Sorry, Beberoni. You haven’t done your homework sufficiently, if you really believe that.

        The fix is in at the top. You don’t REALLY believe it’s a legitimate two-party system, do you?

      • Wanda

        Victor your one sick person that George Sorres should be run out of this country and never allowed step foot in it again. He’s nothing but a low life idiot and will do any thing to make a buck. The Bush familly is christians and that is probably more than you can handle. Any sane person is not going to beleive a word you have to say.

      • larry

        Anyone who gives aid and comfort to the enemy, and George Soros is our emeny, is guilty of high treason, and should be dealt with accordingly.

      • denniso

        larry..George Soros is one of many billionaires in the this country who made a ton of money within the rules of the capitalist system that most everyone promotes as the best system in the world. They then use the influence and power that huge sums of $$ buy in that ststem to promote their views… Why don’t you decry the system that allows a very few to reap such wealth, rather than the individuals themselves? You and some others sound unhinged.

      • DaveH

        Sure, If anybody isn’t as naive as you, they are “unhinged”. Only those whose knowledge is lacking need to attack people personally.

      • eyeswideopen

        denniso, remember that DaveH, believes that the Corporations should be allowed to run wild with no regulations at all. Do you think he would even acknowledge that the Republican Party has their own George Soros, named Sheldon Adelson?? Never. lol

      • http://donthaveone Beberoni

        This is true. But any political party that aligns themselves with anti Americans like this, are not here to represent America, only themselves, and shame on anyone who would vote them into office. Thing is, most people that vote democrat dont even know who he is, as they are uneducated as to the political scene, and havent a clue. They just blindly believe the liberal press and the liberal newspapers, which shows propaganda is alive and well in America.

      • Jana

        There is nothing wrong with a capitalist system that allows one to become a millionaire. It takes hard work and determination. It is though as you say, what they do with that money. They buy people such as Congressmen and Presidents.
        We cannot protect people against themselves. Some people are corrupt and some are corruptible.
        This is why we do need term limits and a smaller government.
        Also, when we do realize that we have someone ie: Soros, then we need to again make our voices heard that we know he is a crook and get those that he corrupts out of office.
        There has always had those kind of people around to do their dirty deeds.
        The problem is we also are having a press that doesn’t act like its free any more. It acts more like it has been bought and paid for by the extreme liberal left and touts only their agenda.

        then use the influence and power that huge sums of $$ buy in that ststem to promote their views… Why don’t you decry the system that allows a very few to reap such wealth, rather than the individuals themselves? You and some others sound unhinged.
        Reply

        Thank goodness for Sheldon Adelson. We need someone to counter Soros and his ilk.

      • Jana

        Excuse the last 2 little paragraphs. I thought I deleted all of the other post but obviously I didn’t.

      • DaveH

        EyesWideShut,
        In a free market Corporations have the ultimate regulation of the consumer. In a free market nobody has to buy a product or service, unlike the choices dictated by the Health Care Bill which you support.
        The Corporations can only exert their will on the consumer if Big Government acts as their bully boys. Government regulations only serve to protect the Big Corporations from competition. Big Companies can afford the cadres of lawyers and paper-shufflers that result from the burdensome regulations. Small Companies can’t.
        You claim to be well-read Eyes. So type “economic freedom” into your search engine and start reading. You will find that the countries with the least amount of business regulation have the best and most desirable economies.

      • denniso

        Surely you joke!! Almost every other developed country on the face of the earth has more socialism and regulation of biz than we do. Many are doing much better than we are as civil societies and well functioning economies. You’d better get out more!

      • DaveH

        You are the joke. I’ll bet you haven’t even done any of the reading as I suggested. You present your desired beliefs as if they were fact. Anybody can spout unsupported facts.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Freedom_of_the_World

        It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that the more you burden productive people with myriad rules, the more you stifle their productivity. And as people are diverted from the productive mainstream to being on panels of regulators, the productivity understandably declines further.

      • Jana

        Dave you are so right.

      • Curtis S

        Wow Dave, you’re actually quoting the Economic Freedom of the World chart produced by the Fraser Institute? You know that this famous conservative and libertarian think-tank is based in CANADA? You realize that your example shows that Canada is just as economically free as the US and Canada is obviously more socialist, what’s up with that? YOU have given an example where a country (Canada) is burdened by socialist rules, yet it still ranks tied with the US in economic freedom. Thoughts?

  • s c

    Ron Paul says what needs to be said, but he knows that Washington is so infested with freedom-hating ‘leaders’ in Washington that the odds of aborting the Fed are close to zero.
    The Fed is a monstrosity that should not exist. It is a private corporation. It is also a central bank, and a central bank exists to consolidate power, destroy wealth and enslave people. The fact that the Fed exists proves that those who were legally and morally obligated to protect America instead chose treason.
    The Fed acts like a slow cancer, and its death grip on America’s wealth makes would-be foreign invaders envious. Ask anyone who thinks the Fed is good why the dollar is the victim of those who supposedly ‘protect’ it. Ask them how and why the destruction of the dollar can make America ‘strong.’
    Long ago, Andrew Jackson understood why America would suffer if central banks were allowed to exist here. Abe Lincoln died
    for daring to challenge the Fed. Many people make a convincing argument that JFK died because he planned to stand up to the Fed.
    A criminal who wears an expensive suit (and is a media darling) and robs you without a gun is still a criminal. A criminal who has a good education and a ‘reputation’ is still a criminal. Someone who hates freedom and will do anything to enslave a nation is someone who was never your friend.
    America needs leaders who love the Constitution and freedom. America never needed empty suits, talking heads or back-stabbers who are above the law and demand to be seen as superior beings.

    • http://donthaveone Beberoni

      And they also are probably fully laden with a bunch of criminal lawyers that set them all up in the first place. They need to go as does the IRS.

    • James

      S C, “End the Fed” means end the Federal Reserve banking system, not end the federal government. The Federal Reserve Act of 1913 (the same year the Sixteenth [income tax] Amendment was added) created the Federal Reserve System, and gave it power to create dollars, literally, out of thin-air. No money may come into existence, now, unless someone (or the government) borrows it, at interest. This assures that the total debt always exceeds the money in circulation, a recipe for booms and busts.

    • http://fcernhart@yahoo.com Marianne to S C says

      In April of 1963 John Kennedy directed his Sec. of Treasury to issue
      United States Notes backed by silver. I don’t know what denominations
      or what quantity was issued BUT right after his assination in Nov,1963
      they were called in from circulation since THE VERY PRESENCE of notes
      with intrinsic value would drive the valueless FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES
      out of the marketplace! THAT would END THE FED. Sounds like a motive
      to me.

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