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Barack’s Ignoble Award

October 16, 2009 by  

Barack’s Ignoble Award

Well, now it’s official. Barack Hussein Obama has just won the highest honor that the elitists of the international left can bestow on one of their own.

His very own Nobel Peace Prize. Imagine that!

And what has our president done to deserve this lofty honor? Why, in the words of an infamous “Saturday Night Live” sketch, nothing, absolutely nothing. I’ll come back to that hilarious skit in a moment. But first, let’s look a little closer at the curious timing of Obama’s award.

Did you know that the Nobel Committee’s own regulations require that all nominations be postmarked by Feb. 1? This means that—if the rules were followed—Barack Obama was nominated for a Nobel Peace Prize a mere 12 days after he was sworn into office.

Twelve days in office and he’s already being considered for a Nobel Peace Prize? Give me a break! Does anyone anywhere really believe that this is how it actually happened?

Let me suggest something that strikes me as incredibly obvious: The Nobel Committee broke its own rules to give Obama the award. Can’t you imagine a committee meeting with someone shouting the Norwegian equivalent of “Rules? Rules? We don’t need no stinkin’ rules.”

And of course it’s true. When it comes to honoring one of their own, and advancing the cause of their dubious socialist schemes, the elitists of the international left don’t need no stinkin’ rules. They can do whatever they want. That’s why they hate the very idea of being bound down by the chains of a constitution. These power-hungry sycophants always and everywhere love monopolies and dictatorships, so long as it’s one of their own who is in charge. That’s why they are so enraptured with the United Nations.

But I digress. The plain and simple fact is that this year’s selection was rigged. This is far from the first time that the noble idea of a “peace prize” was prostituted to serve the ignoble ambitions of the left.

Do you remember in 1994, when the Nobel Committee gave the honor to a thief and murderer named Yasser Arafat? It’s true that Arafat shared the award with the then-prime minister and foreign minister of Israel. But still, giving a “peace” prize to the father of modern terrorism? Arafat gloated about using the most heinous murder of innocent civilians to advance his aims.

Oh, by the way, he also stole tens of millions of dollars from the very Palestinians he supposedly led to finance a life of luxury on the French Riviera and various world capitals. In a sane world, he would have been tried for murder and executed.

Instead, he was the most frequent visitor to Bill Clinton’s White House among all so-called world leaders. What a travesty.

If that wasn’t enough to make you rush to the nearest vomitorium, how about the winners in 1973? In case you’ve forgotten, that’s when Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and North Vietnam’s Lu Duc Tho shared the award for negotiating the Vietnam peace accords. If you remember that Communists describe “peace” as “when all opposition has been eliminated,” then you’ll have to admit the committee got it right: Kissinger and gang made sure all opposition to a communist takeover of South Vietnam got slaughtered. Way to go, Mr. Secretary.

But you don’t have to be a mass murderer, or even open the door to it, to be honored by the Nobel Committee. Slavish devotion to the left’s latest cause is often enough. How else would you explain the selection two years ago of former Vice President Al Gore? Even if you bought into all the skewed science and deliberate deceptions in “An Inconvenient Truth,” can you really contend with a straight face that he deserved a Nobel Peace Prize?

Well, okay, I’ll grant you. He has done more to earn it than our Teleprompter-in-Chief. But that’s not saying much.

By an extraordinary coincidence, two days before the award was announced, “Saturday Night Live” opened its Oct. 3 show with a skit skewering Barack Obama for accomplishing “nothing, absolutely nothing” since Inauguration Day.

In case you missed it, the sketch featured actor Fred Armisen portraying the president and delivering a very sober speech to the American public. Here’s just part of that delicious put-down:

“There are those on the right who are angry. They think that I’m turning this great country into something that resembles the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany. But that’s just not the case. When you look at my record, it’s very clear what I’ve done so far—and that is nothing. Nada. Almost one year and nothing to show for it.”

As he spoke, a checklist of promises appeared on the screen—global warming, immigration reform, gays in the military, limits on executive power, torture prosecutions, closing Guantanamo Bay, withdrawing from Iraq, healthcare reform, and so on. Armisen, as Obama, admitted very honestly how little his administration had accomplished.

“Remember,” he said. “I can do whatever I want. I have a majority in both houses of Congress. I could make it mandatory for all gays to marry, and require all cars to run on marijuana. But do I? NO!”

He then closed with this wonderful admission: “So looking at this list, I’m seeing two big accomplishments: JACK and SQUAT!”

You’ve got to admit, sometimes the liberals get it right.

Until next time, keep some powder dry.

—Chip Wood

Chip Wood

is the geopolitical editor of PersonalLiberty.com. He is the founder of Soundview Publications, in Atlanta, where he was also the host of an award-winning radio talk show for many years. He was the publisher of several bestselling books, including Crisis Investing by Doug Casey, None Dare Call It Conspiracy by Gary Allen and Larry Abraham and The War on Gold by Anthony Sutton. Chip is well known on the investment conference circuit where he has served as Master of Ceremonies for FreedomFest, The New Orleans Investment Conference, Sovereign Society, and The Atlanta Investment Conference.

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  1. Foolpatrol says:

    Perhaps the committee recognizes President Obama’s remarkable ability to inspire the United States and most of the world to peacefully resolve our differences. After the loser the US had as President, regaining respect and cooperation, when necessary, from other nations is an extraordinary feat.

    • Don says:

      And maybe you are as stupid as the committee is. Maybe I now understyand why he is always apologizing for this country – it is because we have too many fools like you!

      • bj says:

        Amen Don!

        The fools that voted him into office are the same kind that gave him the Nobel Prize.

        What I am most concerned about is, can America still be America after 4 years of him office?

      • Brenda says:

        that our Nation can/will survive this person who is supposed to be :serving” its people, we must pray diligently for this survival.

      • Russell EnDean says:

        Yes Hopefully we are all praying diligently. But prayer is not Action. Please take Action as well.

      • DeWayne says:

        Oh I guess america will be america when racism and hatred continue
        and prevail.

      • Bruce says:

        That’s a typical response from an idiot who gets backed into a corner without an intelligent answer….call racism!!! Well guess what – that card has become soooo old that people just don’t care.

      • ccg says:

        DeWayne, it is not his race that divides us, as he is part white too. It is his ideology that is wrong.
        I don’t agree with Pelosi, nor Harry Reid, not Al Gore, or Biden, and they are not black.

        For goodness sake grow up and move forward. Quit looking back. If you have hatred then you are the racist.

      • JeffH says:

        One needs to just ignore this “old” defensive comment.

      • John says:

        That’s a pathetic response. They just don’t get it so they play the race card over and over again. It’s the Ideology that we don’t agree with as ccg pointed out!

      • Stan says:

        I’m a white guy, my wife is a black lady, we’ve been married for 15 I think very happy years. Isn’t it amazing in this country that the only people that can be racist are white people, please grow up. I’m not a racist I don’t believe, I don’t care what color that guy in the white house is I just don’t stand with him on almost anything he “claims” to stand for. The race card is becoming so pathetic it has become a monicer for the Democratic Party. I am unaware of any promice that Husein Obama has made that he has kept, where’s the transparency, where’s all new proposed laws will be on the internet, where’s the rest of the promises? The man for lack of a better term is still playing community organizer. The prize has now officially became a joke to the world.

      • Don in FL. says:

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      • Phnxgrl says:

        Racism toward Obama is crazy he is not even black! He is of Arab descent. And as far as I can tell Arabs are not a RACE! So that charge is incorrect.

      • Victor Marson says:

        In answer to your critic phnxgrl concerning the claim that Obama is of Arab descent.
        Obama’s father was a negro from Kenya, Africa.
        I remember when the Kenya negroes ( the Mau-Mau ) supporting their leader Kenyata, were stringing white folk up by their feet, and while these folk were still alive they were chopped down their middle with a matchet, like a carcass.
        Nice people.
        If Obama’s father belonged to the Mau-Mau should be researched.
        Please could phnxgrl explain why she considers Obama an Arab ?
        victor

      • Beberoni says:

        Play the card DeWayne, play the card. It is so easy to play the victim. Listen pal, and listen good. A black man has advanced to the highest office in the land. That means any black man can do anything he puts his mind to. The white man that you claim has held you back, is an inherit lie. Now you have no more excuses of why you cannot succeed. The race card is dead, so put it away. Quit being a victim, its such an easy role to play. Be a man and step up, and quit using the convenience excuse, “Its because Im black”. Its wore out, it doesnt apply, and your a sad sack.

      • csrdrunner says:

        WOW!!!! and another idiot, I do believe this country has slipped BACK ABOUT 50 YEARS WITH THIS PERSON AS PRESIDENT “I don’t know the details, however, the police acted stupidly”, AND Sotomoyer another pushing racisim “a wise Lation”, I am getting so sick of “black cacus, black, college, black history month etc.. If all that was called WHITE, what trouble we would be in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Linda L Hill says:

        I think we all were hoping that Obama was going to be a Great President, even those who did not vote for him. After he won the election, we just said he has won and now we will back our new president. However, now since we see how he is doing; the economy, International affairs, and especially now with the newest terrorist attact at Fort Hood, we must accept the fact that we have made the wrong decision. President Obama, whoever he is really, is not standing up for America.

      • Linda L Hill says:

        PS. It is not Race that divids us, it is the wrong decision to elect Obama as President. The Nobel Peace Prize, what a joke!

      • Russell EnDean says:

        AMEN

      • Russell EnDean says:

        Well, as to the what will the United States resemble in four years, it is not pretty, and probably difficult to believe. You recall that we are technically insolvent today. On top of this, we have just spent and/or committed to spending approximately 40 Times our entire savings for the history of the USA (US Bank Deposits reported at FDIC.GOV)China wants to cash in their Treasury Bills and the World G20 are now negotiating on what they shall use as the new basis for international trade because they have lost all faith in the US Dollar. In the mean time, NOTHING and I do mean NOTHING is being done to fortify and grow our manufacturing industry which can exponentially grow the economy within months . . . Like the ITC (Investment Tax Credit) Which costs taxpayers nothing. This is why these Washington Charlatans must be stopped now, before they spend one more Dollar of your money and mine. Right Now.

      • Louise says:

        Terrific! It looks like you can see into the future. I wonder why you did not tell the Bush Administration where Bin Laden had planned to attack. We could have avoided 9/11. Also, you could have also told them that there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. We could have avoided the Iraq war too, unless we were really intent on that invasion. No need to regret the past. Can you tell them where to find Bin Laden, and where the enemies are in Afghanistan/Pakistan? It will help us bring our hardworking soldiers home with victory. By the way, you do not judge any presidency until a president has completed his term in office. President Bush had eight years to lead and people like you will not allow President Obama to lead.

      • Dee D says:

        Russell – If every American consumer had left the imported junk lay on the shelves instead of purchasing it – Our Industries would not have deserted us for the cheap labor.
        Stupid Americans will buy anything – just tell them they are getting a bargain.
        But tell me – WHAT administration started rewarding our manufacturers for leaving our shores and WHY?
        The Unions tried to warn us – no one listened. “When you get hungry, eat an import.”
        Non thinking people equated this with only the auto industry, never thinking it could and would affect everything and every job in our country.
        We asked for it and we got it. Stop blaming everyone but ourselves for our problems. We people are the Government. Start doing your job.

      • DaveH says:

        Louise,
        What Russell is saying is not exactly rocket science. Spend 4 times your income and see what happens. Duh.

        And Dee, please don’t blame the citizens for what the government created. When industry or individuals are protected from competition they get complacent and lazy. We would be paying a fortune for our automobiles right now if we let the American auto manufacturers and their unions have their way. The only way to prosperity is hard work and sacrifice. And the free market is the best way to achieve that.

        Big Government is the problem, not the solution. When government grows, corruption flows.

      • Dee D says:

        Dave – You are right – Government is big – One reason is we are the government. We do nothing to help ourselves, we want it handed out free gratis. We go to the polls and vote the same old, same old scum bags into office and then complain, complain and point the finger at every one else for the sorry state of affairs.
        We make excuses for what guilty representatives do and still put them back in office.
        Now as far as Unions go – my forefathers fought and died for decent working conditions to eliminate the sweat shops. Granted, some of the reps in union shops leaves a lot to be desired, because like Federal reps, they take care of their own. It’s called the good old boys club and truly the umbilical cord to the good old boys club needs to be severed.
        You say stop blaming the people for what our Government does – sorry I cannot do that. We are all guilty of not doing a decent job and trying to vote the best possible ticket for our future generations and our country. The main reason is party loyalties rule the day.
        We fight and argue among ourselves because we are the only ones who are super smart and every one else is the ignorant, crazy, stupid villain in every issue.
        In another post I explained about a cancer in our society. Look it up.

      • Beberoni says:

        In response to Dee Ditz, that admin would be the Clinton Admin which signed us into NAFTA which allowed these companies to move to mexico and sell their goods here. Yeah, your hero, Billy Boy.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Bebe, now you are showing your lack of knowledge. Regan started the North American Accord. Bush picked up the ball and the name was changed to NAFTA, he couldn’t get it passed during his admin, so then the Republican Congress passed it during Clintons admin. Dude you need some schooling. You need to take credit for Regan’s concept, which ended up costing us 3.6 million manufacturing jobs. Not a big deal.

      • Beberoni says:

        In response to Louise. He cant lead, he isnt a leader. You either have it or you dont, and he doenst have it. He blindly follows where the democratic party tells him to follow. He clearly has no ideas of his own. He is a loser, and an anti-American.

      • Dee D says:

        bj – Be careful whom you call a fool.
        While you have 1 finger pointing at someone else – You also have 3 pointing back at yourself.

      • JeffH says:

        …and that is why I point with four fingers!

      • Dee D says:

        Jeff – Do you also pick your nose with four fingers? Dangerous you may get four fingers broken instead of one if you run into a door. LOL

      • libertytrain says:

        These comments are so childish? Why?

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Frustration, is why. The non-Republicans on this site, are vastly outnumbered and when they make a comment the degrading and name calling starts. Then they feel as though they need to stand up for themselves and the circus begins. You would think that since. the Dem’s are so outnumbered the Rt. would not feel as though they had to defame or degrade the opponent. This site is much like a school yard, with people jocking for positions and looking for accolades for taking the best shot at the non-Republican/Libertarian. This site should be called Bullies Reign, instead of Personal Liberty. What a laugh, anytime you go away from the party line of the Rt. your liberties are curtailed immediately. You must believe like them or you will be stoned!!

      • Beberoni says:

        So let me get this right. You and your ilk, the lefties, have all rights to attack Bush and Cheney for 8 years, to throw them under the bus to the enemies attacking us. Your liberal news media told out and out damning lies about them for 8 years, while constantly attacking them and not reporting the truth at all. For instance, we were making great strides in Iraq. Women were walking the streets, kids going to school, and they were all coming up to our soldiers and thanking them for being there and liberating them. I know this first hand because I talk weekly with groups over there. But while this success was going on, the left wing liberal press of ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and MSNBC were all reporting how we were losing the war, and how innnocent women and children in milk factories were being killed by our blood thirst soldiers. I mean, come on man. You know thats not right. We as a country rally behind our soldiers and country when at war. If people would have talked like this about FDR during the big one, they would have been thrown in jail or beat in the public square, and rightfully so. But this was all done in an attempt to discredit all this admin did, in order to win the next election. It did work, but it was all lies. I myself was always brought up that if you cheat to win, you really didnt win. You guys really didnt win. You lied and connnived and bore false witness on your neighbors and all kinds of nasty little evil things. You know its true, and I think its sad that a group of so called educated adults would stoop to this childish behavior of lies and name calling, just to get what they want. Childish and wrong. Thats the truth.

      • Norm says:

        Beberoni
        Have you heard the slanderous BS coming out of Cheney’s big dumb mouth lately against our president. He and Bush spent nearly a trillion $ attacking the wrong country. They declared victory a year later (over six years ago). Iraq still has over 100,000 american troops and probably as many contractors. When they leave, watch what happens. As for Afghanistan, it wasn’t important to Cheney until Obama was elected. Now Cheney and Rumsfeld(of all people) are the big war experts. That really makes a good impression on our enimies. For a 5 times draft dodger Cheney is a piece of work.

      • Thurman Marcum says:

        Norm,

        You forgot George BushJr,he did a little draft dodging of his own.I thought he did quite well ducking those shoes.

      • Beberoni says:

        Really? I think that was Clinton. If I remember right, George W. Bush honorable served in the reserves. Yes he did.

      • JeffH says:

        …or big nostrils…

      • Beberoni says:

        But even with his fingers in his nose, Jeff can still smell a rat.

      • Felix says:

        We have a Fool House, a Fool senate and a Fool prez… that is Obamination at its best… God help us all… I am waiting for the Messiah to return to earth because the end is near…

      • DeWayne says:

        You are waiting on the Messiah? It that the Jesus who teched love
        and respect toward mankind!

      • John says:

        Case in point why Illegal Immigration should be enforced. Immigrants need to be indoctrinated to the US and learn to speak and write English.

      • zack says:

        Stop.. Just Stop…Leave this for us grown ups…

      • Robin, Arcadia, IN says:

        I believe that Jesus is the Messiah and my personal Savior. Did you have a point with the comment you made DeWayne?

      • BOE says:

        Dewayne ..(WORDS REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT) The correct word in past tense is “taught”. Go back to grammar school. We all make mistakes..but ..well..you need basic english.

      • DaveH says:

        DeWayne,
        Tell me how it is respecting your fellow man to force him to do things he doesn’t want to do? Liberals want the right to abort their babies (at someone else’s cost I might add), yet they don’t want to give me the right to refuse medical insurance. And they want me to ride in a car strapped behind a thousand dollar bomb (air bags) against my choice. They also want to render me defenseless against an attacker (gun control).
        Liberals are all about Big Government, and government is force not reason. I don’t know who Jesus really was, but if the Bible is to be believed he would not condone the force that Liberals want to apply to people.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Daveh..becareful Dave, your party platform condones abortions, so don’t be acting like it is a Democrat thing. It is written in your Libertarian platform along with the right of gays. You make a statement like you did, to come off sounding like you don’t agree with abortions, yet you had Becky thanking you for helping her stand up for that right….Come on Dave, You can’t play both sides, some of us know you and your political stands.

      • DaveH says:

        Eyes,
        I repeat “put down that Saul Salinsky book”. You need to take an English class I guess. I didn’t say I didn’t respect your rights. I did say that you don’t respect mine.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Dave, yea, and we also expect you to obey the traffic signals too!! Those things you pointed to are the things to insure your safety. Or in your case, it is to save us money, as you don’t care if you are mangled in an accident, which will cost us in medical bills, or if you become sick, also cost us in medical bills. I don’t think your family would rise to the occasion to pay off medical bills in the 200k range if you die, while not having insurance. You are willing to take the risk, while putting the rest of us in the position of having to pay higher rates, if and when you are hurt and need medical help. You by your actions, show that you don’t respect anyone else. Insurance would protect us from your debt. The horse you are riding is getting shorter. At one time in this country, you could be a Libertarian, however, with the population as large as it is, people have to compromise to do what is best for the majority. There are no countries that function as you wish. You can’t have a bunch of rouge individuals running around trashing most of the laws that keep us civil. People will not do the right thing, if they can get away with doing the wrong thing and not being caught. Greed and power are those forces which need to be controled. You did see that David Safavian has been sentenced to prison didn’t you? Another corrupt politician.

      • Jackie says:

        Thousands of years ago the Bible predicted that there would be a one world government and a one world currency. It also predicted that this would occur near the time the world would end. If you read about Obama’s Czar’s, you will see they all agree that there should be a world government, one government for all. The Bible also says that you shall know a prophet by their words, that there words shall come to pass.
        The Bible also states that Jesus Christ is the Savior. Something to think about.

      • Native American 9 says:

        Don, why is it that you stoop to the level of an (WORD REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT) by calling the author of an opinion stupid. The comment is correct in terms of OUR President’s positive goals and achievements; stop being a hater.

        Every President WE have had can not claim perfection. Including both Bushes, and President Obama. This new President has been hated on so much by (WORD REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT) like you because of jealousy, eny, and a desire to smear the office in which all Americans need to RESPECT. I didn’t like Bush, but I respected him as a human being, and as my President at that time.

        Its one thing to criticize someone, but its another when you yourself don’t make yourself available to help solve the daily and ever so complained about issues that ALL Americans must face.

        If you are not a part of the solution, guess what buddy, YOU are a part of the problem.
        Let’s all help America to move fwd into the future with pride, with honor, and respect; part of that is respecting OUR President of the greatest country in the world.

        The election process took its toll and he won. Support him and get over you idiotic hate.

        Wadu’

      • Michael J. says:

        Native, Respect must be earned, not just given away like some token european gag prize.

      • Russell EnDean says:

        That is correct Respect is earned. It is not automatic. This is why today’s administration and Congress have none. Whether from US Citizens or from the World. Try reading a current European newspaper, of your choice, and see what is being written, and the cartoons they publish, about tie siege occuring in the USA Government today.

      • Don in FL. says:

        Wadu can’t read he hasn’t gotten out of the second grade yet. Buy some more fire water and sit around

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Michael, that’s funny, the rest of the world respects him and you haters don’t. He didn’t get the Olympic and you cheered, he got peace prize and you are upset. Rouge children.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        And what have you done to earn the Presidents respect? Street goes both ways, the difference is, he does respect you, even if you don’t deserve it, and he will protect your rights.

      • Disgusted says:

        You are correct…check out http://www.telegraph.co.uk/# – their favorite nickname for our president is President Pantywaist. Go to the link I posted and search for it – amazing how many articles!

      • Normal Guy says:

        Right – three stories titled pantywaist two by the same writer. overwhelming.;

        Search Obama and you get hundreds – mostly accurate reporting that has nothing to do with the conspiracy delusions rampent on this site.

      • BOE says:

        T NA9…you need to do some research about Obama. He is a puppet of a man named George Soros. A God-less Hungarian Jew whose family changed their name during the Holocaust. Then he helped Hitler take property from the Jews and sent them on to the death camps. He made billions and almost ruined Britian,wiped out their savings all the while making himself wealthy. Ok..the purpose of all this is ..Soros is running and ruining this country. This is bigger than even N. Pelosi,Clinton..all the dems. can even imagine. Plz google..George Soros, the Tide Foundation,..just read ..this is not paranoid thinking.people need to be afraid.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        The Republican puppet mister is Sheldon Adelson. Who happens to be richer than George. So probably more strings are pulled with more money being used!!!

      • JeffH says:

        Tank you for your research. More on this site should look into the background of this anti-American heathen and see why he spends the money to buy the soles of thr influential Democrats.

      • NOFED says:

        Amen to that SOROS is really obamas daddy and thinking about how many people were at the swearing in of this puppet thinking that here was the answer to Americas problems too bad they didnt know that he was just another multi-millionaire next in line to do the SOROS and ROCKAFELLER dance waht a shame that many people get FOOLED at one time.

      • BOE says:

        Oh and I forgot FORGET about Bush!!! GET OVER IT!! We have far greater problems than what Bush did!!!

      • Dee D says:

        BOE – Had we not had Bush – How many of the problems we now are facing just may not have materialized?

      • Beberoni says:

        I tried to support him at first, but after he started apologizing to our enemies for us being sucessful, and after he started giving the terrorist in Abu Gharib lawyers and rights, while attacking our former president to all our enemies, and after he gave billions of dollars to GM and Chrysler to buy future votes from the UAW, and after he said we were not a Christian nation, and after he said something was an affront to his muslim faith, and after he decided to take our taxpayer money and pay for abortions overseas, and after he spent more money in 8 months that the previous admin spent in 8 years, after his party continually bitching about the republicans spending, well, the way I see it, he pretty much burned his bridges with me. Im an American, and I abhor these anti American things he has done, his hypocrisy, and his stance of screw us that he and his boys will do whatever they want. No sir, I gave him a chance, and he blew it really quick. All these things I have stated are factual things that he has done, and if you choose to support someone that behaves in this manner, you sir, are an Anti American, no ifs, ands, or butts about it.

      • Sunshine says:

        Beberoni – What an intelligent soul you are!! Your statement is one of the few I’ve seen that really gets it right, and tells it like it is!
        One can tell you’ve done your homework, and I appreciate this site for making public your statement. (And there were no grammatical errors!!)

        Bless you,
        Sunshine

      • Beberoni says:

        Plus, lets do some comparisons of the things Barack has done, and just wonder how the liberal press would have reacted to it, if George W. Bush was the perpetraitor of such events. What if Bush was the 1st president that had to have a teleprompter installed to get him through a press conference? Wouldnt the press had crucified him and said it was proof how inept he is, and that he is controlled by smarter men? You bet they would have. Barack gets a pass. Or if Bush spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to take Laura to a play in New York City, would they have approved? No. But Barack did and got a pass. What if Bush reduced your retirement plans holdings of GM stock by 90 percent, and gave the unions a majority stake in GM, would you approve? You would have crucified him again, yet Barack did this and gets a pass. What if Bush gave Gordon Brown a set of inexpensive in incorrectly formatted DVD’s, when Gordon Brown had given him a thougtful and historically significant gift. Would you have approved? Of course not, you would have called him a dummy, but yet Barack did this and gets a pass. If Bush gave the Queen of England an IPOD with videos of his speeches, would you have thought this to be embarrassingly narcissistic and tacky? Of course you and your liberal press would have, but Barack did this, and again, got a pass. If Bush visited Austria and made reference to the non-existent “Austrian language”, would you have brushed it off as a minor slip? No way. Again, you and your liberal press would have had his head, and written how stupid and careless he is. Yet Barack did this, and yet again, got a pass. If Bush had filled his cabinet and circle of advisors, with people who cannot seem to keep current with paying their income taxes, again, would you approve? No, you would have hung him for this, and rightfully so. But yet, oh yeah, once again, Barack did this and gets a pass. Now, and to further go on, I must say that if Bush was so spanish illiterate, as to refer to “Cinco de Quatro” in front of the Mexican ambassador, when it was the 5th of May, (Cinco de Mayo), and continued to flub it when he tried again, would you have winced in embarrassment and approved? No, you and your liberal press would have hung him high on a tree for this. Yet, Barack did this, and once again, received the pass. If Bush mis-spelled the word “advice” would you have hammered him for it for years like Dan Quayle and his spelling of potato as potatoe? Oh yeah. But see, Barack got a pass. If Bush had burned 9000 gallons of jet fuel to go plant a single tree on Earth Day, would you have called him a hypocrite? Barack got a pass. If Bush Ok’d flying Air Force One low over Manhatten, followed by a fighter jet, causing panic, would you think they had forgotten what happened on 9-11. Barack got a pass. If Bush failed to send relief aid to flood victims throughout the midwest, with more people killed or made homeless than in New Orleans, would you want it made into some major ongoing political issue with claims of racism and incompetence? This was done to Bush, but once again, Barack Obama was given a pass by the press. If Bush had ordered the firing of the CEO of a major corporation, even though he had no constitutional authority to do so, would you approve? Of course not, but the liberal press must have approved when Barack did it, because he received a pass. If Bush proposed to double the national debt, which had taken more than two centuries to accumulate, in one year, would you have approved? Would you. Barack did this, and a free pass was issued. If Bush then proposed to double the debt again in 10 years, would you then approved? No way. But Barack has done this, and is given a free pass. So tell me, what is it about Obama that makes him so brilliant and impressive to you? I cant think of anything. But dont worry, he has done all this in 12 months, so youve got 3 years to come up with an answer.

      • DaveH says:

        Native,
        Big Government is the problem, not the solution.

      • Dee D says:

        DaveH -Besides the big Government – the much bigger problem facing us is the voters just keep on voting the same scum bags into office election after election. Party loyalty means more to non thinking voters than the welfare of our country and her citizens.

      • Biresh says:

        The european liberal hate american conservatives. They want an american president who can take USA to the level of degeneracy as evident in europe. anyone who can do that will get a nobel prize.

      • ccg says:

        Ooops, he did.

      • Rod says:

        You know why Obama won the nobel? The real reason is he will soon be
        putting 80,000 troops on the streets to quiet down the riots we are
        having! You know the riots I am talking about, they are the ones he
        will soon be starting!

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Rod, you keep inferring rioting in the streets, marching on Washington, do you have a t-shirt that identifies you as a terrorist? Please wear it, so we know who to run from. Pretty anti-American talk you keep coming up with.

      • Chaplain Rodger De Ramus says:

        EWO,
        The riots the gentleman is speaking of is going to be those who are tired of big government, Republicans AND Democrats AND Independants;
        the rich people of this country getting away with stealing others money by not having to pay taxes and then receiving large grants to figure out how to make more money, grants they will never have to pay back. The division between the poor and ultrawealthy is becoming wider and wider and the middle class are supporting them both, and nobody doing anything about it. Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, etc. all the way up to Obama make empty promises just to get elected so they can put their hands into the till and take as much of other peoples money as they can and stand before the people and make empty speeches about how they are going to do this or this and never deliver. Obama is no different than any of the others. He’s made promises to certain groups and organizations and he never meant to come through with them in the first place. Politicians make campaign promises to get votes, knowing full well they will never fulfil them.
        That is why organizations like the Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Trangender Organizations are mad at Obama now. He made promises he cannot deliver; and just because he is black don’t mean he is going to do anything he has told the Black Caucus he would do either.ling

        Americans; white, black, yellow, red, brown whatever better wake up and start standing up for their fellow man or we as a nation will die. The European Union is trying right now to figure out a way to bankrupt our economy along with China and Japan(a country that we rebuilt after the war and they promised to repay and never have and never will); and then Obama taking billions of tax payer money and bailling out the richest corporations in the world, the banks. He shoot his own self in the foot. That is why many are just undone with him. Listen, I don’t care if he is a one-eyed, one horn, flying purple people eater (as the old song goes) if he can do that to his own people and they still stand on principle because he’s black, you have your heads in the sand and you need to pull it out and wake up and put an end to this petty arguing about y’all racist, black haters, not giving him a chance because he’s a black man. That’s getting so old it won’t even hold water anymore. There are some whites that don’t care what color your skin is, as long as you treat them the same as you do any other color. Stop it, stop playing the old worn out race card every time somethingdon’t go the way you think it should. You haven’t been discriminated against any more than others races of people. Look at at all the races in this country and hear who is crying the loudest. Stop it, just stop it. White people, quit getting mad because you see others getting grants and loans and other advantages you don’t qualify for because you make too much money. Be glad you don’t have to depend on your government for a living. They’ll only think of other ways to cause you to be broker than you are now. Stop it, just stop it. Nobody is better than anyone else. There is coming a day when we as Americans need to stand up for your fellow man and help them survive. I don’t care if you believe in God or Jesus or Satan or the devil or not. If you don’t that is your own fault, people have been preaching to you for years and if you didn’t believe it then, you will not start now. There is, though, coming a day when this world is going to be in a lot worse shape than it is now, believe it or not, that’s up to you. The Holy Bible is the most bought book in the whole world. It has been around for thousands of years and beside being written into different translations, it has stayed the same throughout that time. All through the Old Testament, God raised up Prophets, holy men that He spoke to audibly, not in their spirit as He does today and told them exactly what He entended to do if the people didn’t obey Him. When His Only Son became flesh and came to earth as a child and grew up telling His own people that a time was coming when an enemy was going to try and destroy the whole world. He told them in parables and in plain language and they dld not believe Him. Why? Because He didn’t look like the Savior they thought He should look like and they rose up and killed Him. They would not have been able unless He let them, because that was the plan God had laid out from the very beginning. Jesus died for all our sins so that when this enemy comes, he can’t hurt those who have excepted Jesus as the true Messiah, the only way to God. Without Him those who don’t believe or don’t want to believe will suffer more than they ever have in this world. you think you got it bad now, there is a time when everybody will be discriminated against. If you refuse to worship a false god, he will kill you right there on the spot. If you choose to worship him, he’ll be nice for a while, but sooner or later, he’s going to kill you too. The only difference, some of you will live forever and some of you will suffer forever. You make the choice, you pick the one. The stupidest thing is, it will be so easy to make THE RIGHT CHOICE. Just one little prayer, a prayer of forgiveness. A choice to follow God.

        Listen, I’m so sorry I went on like that. I am a preacher after all, but I should have stopped a long time ago. I even got off the subject and for that I am tryly sorry. People, Obama is not the Savior of the world. However, he is not the anti-christ either. He can’t be. Prophecy says he will be a Jew or of Jewish descent. If that offends some of you, sorry. It is the truth and if the truth hurts, you’ll just have to take it like it is. I’m not tryng to be mean or even racist, I’m stating the facts. It is not too late for anyone to make a choice to go to the right side. Just say God forgive me and it is as easy as that.

        God Bless All of y’all, black, white, yellow, red or as one of my best friends calls himself, “paper sack brown” I love him as a good friend. I worked in an underground coalmine in Alabama for 20 years and I depended on my fellow workers like him to help watch out for danger. If I could not depend on them, I could get hurt or die. The same for them. If we can’t start depending on each other, who can we depend on. One day, possibly one of your own best friends will betray you and you will be killed for your beliefs. What a shame… What a thought, One person could be the one that gets you killed. Just like it was in the mines, one person that didn’t keep an eye out for danger could get you killed.

        God Bless You All and May His Blessing Be With You Forever or Until We Go To Heaven Together.

        Chaplain Rodger De Ramus
        Community Chaplains of America
        a division of Corporate Chaplains of America

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Chaplain, please just list one thing that the Bush admin passed that helped the middle class. Don’t bother with the tax cuts as the average middle class American doesn’t make over 150k. You can also exclude the Medicare Advantage bill, as it was unfunded and is costing us 1.2 trillion dollars and only benefits the over 65 group. So, please name one beneficial bill they passed.

      • cr747 says:

        Bush passed the assualt weapon ban out, that the DEMOCRAZY Slick Willy Clinton put on against our second amendment rights, which 95% of the democrazy’s don’t even know what an assault weapon is. THEY THINK A SINGLE SHOT RIFLE WITH A FOLDING STOCK IS AN ASSAULT WEAPON. They are all idiots. AND BY THE WAY, I AM A REGISTERED “DEMOCRAZY” MYSELF. BUT YOU CAN BET I DIDN’T VOTE FOR OL BAM-BAM.And after 2010 election he will be impeached. He is not even an american. I am not crazy, “I was a fighter pilot in Vietnam” and I know an idiot when I see one; “EYESCLOSED”

      • CHARLIE says:

        ROD,AS FOR THE NOBLE PRIZE GOES,FOR ME HE DIDN’T EARN IT. SOMEONE SAID NOW HE WATCHED A COLLEGE FOOTBALL GAME HE’S LOOKING FOR THE HIESMAN AWARD.

      • Rosita says:

        Don:
        You are kidding, what an ugly, untrue and stupid answer to give.
        Thank God we are many intelligent citizens watching over our country and we will bring it back to sanity and righteousness.
        No leftist here, no communism here, as far as I am concerned I did not vote for him nor do I agree with this Nobel Prize.
        How would you feel if your own father would put you down in front of the world.

      • April says:

        With you Rosita! Keep talkin’!

      • Dennis says:

        This has noting to do with the subject at hand…DIRECTLY…but very important regaurdless.

        Isn’t this just great… Illinos Capital of Corruption

        Mosque Foundation websitereports that Sheikh Kifah Mustapha recently completed a four day training session in Springfield
        Radical Fundraiser Becomes Illinois Police Chaplain
        By Editor Thursday, January 7, 2010
        Previously on the IPT blog we stressed the need for the Defense Department’s Islamic Chaplaincy program to adopt a stricter vetting process, citing historically radical imams who have served in the program.

        Now the same can be said for the chaplaincy program for the Illinois State Police. The Mosque Foundation websitereports that Sheikh Kifah Mustapha recently completed a four day training session in Springfield, Illinois to become the first certified Muslim chaplain for the Illinois State Police.

        Mustapha’s name appears on a list of unindicted co-conspirators in the Holy Land Foundation (HLF) Hamas financing trail, which ended with sweeping convictions in November of 2008. On this list he is identified as a member of the Muslim Brotherhood’s Palestine Committee.

        There is more to the story…
        and I am sure it doesn’t get better

      • P B says:

        Don, you are so right, I couldn’t have said it better. What did this MORON do in 12 days to warrant him getting this award. They should have given it to the country for successfully electing an idiot against all the odds. Because this jerk that the media campaigned so much for is a total disgrace to this country and the American people and our way of life. I don’t care about race, I am tired of people pulling out the race card all the time when things don’t go their way, I just don’t like this moron because he is out of touch with the America I know and fought for. This jerk has no idea what he is doing and is a liar and a thief just like peloooosi and reid, they should all be impeached, because they pulled the wool over our eyes with this idiot and his phony birth certificates that he released. They are as phony as he is a citizen. Throw him and his aunt out of this country after they pay back all the money they took under phony pretext, then put them in prison first then deport them and everything he did should be null and void.

    • Kathie Hawtin says:

      You should receive a Nobel Peace Prize for accomplishments, not for inspiration. I want world peace too, maybe I’ll get one next!

    • John says:

      That’s why his handle is “Foolpatrol” because he’s one of them.

      The reason that he won that not so prestigious award is because Europe wants for this Country to follow in its footsteps. The world needs to be a socialist environment in order for socialism to succeed. Capitalism is an obstacle to their objective.

      Asserting that America is arrogant and sucking up to our enemies on his apology tour, yes FoolPatrol he is a fool too!

      Ahmadinejad, Kim Jong Il, Chavez and Putin are currently having their ways with us because Obama is a fool! Anybody that thinks that he can make or has made Peace with those people is a fool.

      Noble PEACE Prize, why was Obama “delayed” in making a statement against Iran following their elections? Remember, the way that they treated their own people and some are still imprisoned because they stood up to the Mullahs. What did Obama do? I’ll tell you what he did, nothing.

      Why did Obama fly off to Copenhagen rather than speak with General McChrystal? Because his priorities are screwed up, I guess securing the Olympics for his cronies in Chicago is more important.
      Remember General McChrystal is still in need of troops in Afghanistan.

      Noble Peace Prize well he is in good company with Arafat and Carter.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Maybe the world is tired of our wars. Maybe they actually want someone who will speak first prior to invading.

      • Dee D says:

        Eyes – I really don’t think he’s tired of wars.
        I believe he has enough intelligence to realize if WWlll does indeed break out – American will feel the full impact instead of having other areas such as Europe to take the blows for us.
        Since enough of our wealthy and not so smart traitors sold America for the almighty $$$$$$$$$$$$$ every country has the plans to allow all of us to blow every country out of the universe.
        KEEP YOUR ENEMIES CLOSE AT HAND.
        Obama is truly more intelligent than a lot of people who use a lot of senseless words to spread their hatred.
        Language is one of the cheapest commodities GOD gave mankind because we don’t know how to properly use it.

      • Beberoni says:

        Oh, you surely must mean the 13 years of talk and the what, 9 or 10 UN Sanctions that Saddam Hussein failed to listed to. Yeah, 13 years of talk produced a lot of good, didnt they. Talk is for losers Pal. Maybe between two civilized guys, like you and I could talk and agree to disagree. This enemy we are engaged with now, no no no. You cannot talk to them, you cannot appease them. They have knowingly, willingly, and clearly stated, over and over and over again, that they want us dead, they will make us dead, and they will kill themselves to make us dead. Do you even understand the mindset we are dealing with here? Its not thier hatred of Bush. Its not their hatred of America. Its not their hatred of you and me. Its their hatred of anything resembling a Christian, and we are a Christian nation. They also resent that Israel is God’s chosen people. They think they should be. Dude, they strap bombs on their 6 year old daughters and have them walk into a bus then blow them up, and think this is a good thing. Do you understand? Your not dealing with the average Joe on the streets of America where you have half a chance of talking some kind of sense into him. They are indoctrinated from birth to hate us and to kill us, and until they do that their life is not complete. Understand what you are dealing with, then you will know, no amount of talk with them will amount to a hill of beans. They will just laugh at your weakness that your willing to sit down and talk with them, instead of fighting like a man. That is the only language they understand. Like it or not, that is how it is. Talking and appeasement are the ways of defeat, so please do not expect us to do that.

      • Dennis says:

        I totally agree with you! We all need to wise up, that these people are not easy going, level headed. They want to TAKE OVER THE WORLD and will stop at nothing to do it. A huge problem we have right here, is that the people that are trying to apease those people, are right here trying to take away our freedom of knowing it. Our freedom to communicate, and pass on the knowledge of just what is happening. So, wake up people and quit acting as though we are floating on clouds and flowers. Look into what is happening… and there is ALOT!

      • NOFED says:

        Are you speaking of the CIA CREATED alqeada? AL-KITE-UH? That enemy? The one they said knocked the towers down? The ones that flew the invisible J U M B O 7 5 7 into the pentagon. that enemy? There’s a many many many people on here that had better wake up and drink some coffee to hell with smelling it.

      • Dennis says:

        eyeswideopen?
        Your eyes may be open… BUT your brain is SHUT down! Either we fight the terrorist in that country or the HELL is coming for us here. Terrorist do not know the meaning of peace, nor do they CARE. So FIGHT or DIE !!!

      • DaveH says:

        Dennis,
        I don’t care much for Eyes ideas, but impoverishing our Nation by trying to be the world’s policemen is not the answer. War is expensive and wasteful, both in terms of human life and money.
        I do advocate carrying a Big Stick, but we should use that Big Stick against those who mess with us and then get the flock out of their countries. No Nation Building.
        We aren’t going to convert those people. The only chance we have is to give them a very big deterrent to messing with us.
        Our forefathers mostly agreed that we should have armies only to protect our own country and not to campaign around the world. I think they were very wise men.

      • Dennis says:

        DaveH
        My comment was that the terrorism will come here! Better to put a stop to it in their country. Remember the bombing of OUR U.S. Navy Ship during the Clinton admin.The terrorist that bombed the New York subway. Oh, and that little thing called 9/11, you know the Towers, Pennsylvania, the Pentagon terrorist acts on the United States of America’s soil.I sure do not like nation building either but we really don’t have much choice. Either way, we pay for their nation or we pay to rebuild ours. I realize that we can’t impose our veiws on them, but they need help to rid their country of very bad people, with very bad plans. They need help to learn how to police their own country, to keep those horrible people from taking over. To bad we can’t get some other countries to participate, seeing how they damn sure benefit from it. When the terrorist swarm their country… they’ll sure want our help.I sure don’t like the loss of life either, but what is the military for?… To serve and protect…. not hand out soup to flood victims. If not this way… with the trained and professional, strong, smart, and above all, BRAVE Soldiers… well then we must all become soldiers!!!

      • Beberoni says:

        If “eyes” has her eyes open, then she is blind. She says the Bush tax cuts didnt help the middle class. I beg to differ, with facts and proof, not just left wing agenda based opinions that she spews. You see, when these tax cuts came in, the company I work for, was able to hire 30 new workers, in the 15 to 20 bucks an hour range. All of them were middle class workers. And we were not the only company, there were thousands of them country wide, that all had their tax money in their hands, and hired millions of people. That is where those millions of jobs that were created under Bush came from. Of course, since Obama, most of those have been lost, along with millions of other jobs, since the current leadership is totally incompetant. Wait until they rescind these tax cuts in 2010, which they have allready said they are going to do. Millions more will be marching to the unemployment line. Thanks democrats. Hurry up 2010 and 2012, thats all millions of us can say.

    • Babs says:

      “Professing themselves to be wise, they become fools.”

    • Ron says:

      I need that vomitorium now. Get your head out of the sand and wake up!

    • charlesstoker says:

      Lets All At once -All citizens -Just say one thing–What a goofed up USA-The Goverment is fixed–The NDC-is &has been Fixed to do one thing-Get rid of all what this country Used to stand for–The Obamaism-is taking hold–He is in the White House because He Was Bought &Paid for –By The NDC–All the collages In the usa-did the same=Paid to have him in there!!Lets Just wait until this Socilist-is out of there-Things can be turned around–& will be done!!Anyone who voted this radical into Office-should be Taken& sent to the moon-or other Place far far Away–They should be completely Obolished from our site–Puppets of a Puppetier state–Never should have happened!!

      • BarbN says:

        I think you are one that can stomach the truth to what is going on in our country >>>Barack Obama’s Civilian Army – Glenn Beck – FOXNews.com and>>>The Obama Deception HQ Full length version–you tube.If unavailable-
        do comment.
        Barbara

      • Dennis says:

        Here are a couple of other things of great importants, that you may want to veiw. One is called Obsession, Radical Islam’s War Against the West, and also The Third Jihad, Radical Islam’s Vision for the World. Check them out !

      • April says:

        Dennis
        I just saw a video on you tube confirming just what you are saying here. This is not the only one out there.

      • Beberoni says:

        That is why, even though Im against war, I say turn Iran into a sheet of glass right now, then look at Iraq and tell those warring factions to knock it off now, and ask Syria and the rest of the them if they have any questions. Sorry, but this is the only language they understand. It is the only way to get their attention. Sure a lot of people would die, but in the long run, it sure would save one heck of a lot of lives. Nagasakie and Hiroshima were awful, but in reality, those two bombs saved a lot of life. That is the facts of the matter.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        I find it so interesting that you all wouldn’t back Mitt Romney because of the Mormon faith, but you will support, Glen Beck, who constantly refers you to read 5000 yr Leap by William Skouser. That book is nothing but an apocalptic prophecy of Joseph Smith’s, on how the Mormons will rescue the world. William F. Buckley, spent endless effort debunking ,Robert Welch, on the very same topic. Finally the Conservatives listened to, Buckley, and distanced themselves from Welch. Now, Beck,(also a Mormon) is trying to be the next Robert Welch, but you don’t have another Buckley, in the wings to save your party. Funny how the Baptists have been lead down the path by another apocalptic Mormon. Seems you don’t learn from your history.

      • cr747 says:

        I don’t believe I would be talking to bad about religion or the Baptist. Who was it that baptized Jesus?

      • ccg says:

        Eyes, I was going to back Romney. The only problem is when we got to vote in the primaries, the decision was already made on who was going to be the runner for the Rep. Party. McCain was not my choice.

      • libertytrain says:

        Eyes, I have to agree with you – no more William F. Buckley – how sad.

      • Beberoni says:

        Glenn isnt a mormon.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Bebe, you need to check your facts. You are wrong. He is a Mormon. Maybe you should research who you are blindly following. I’m hoping another Buckley comes along to save the Republicans, but I think it is too late.

      • Beberoni says:

        I did back him. I could care less if he is Mormom, Catholic, Presbyterian, Pentecostal, Baptist, Methodist, Missionary, Wesleyan, or any other. As long as he wasnt muslim like Obama. Thats where I draw the line, and its only because that religion has swore to kill us, and will not stop trying to kill us until either we are all dead, or we exterminate them. Sorry, but fact is fact. You think Im not telling the truth, you need to talk to some of their leaders. They might educate you right before they cut off your head.

    • JeffH says:

      …and now it is Obamas ability to uninspire many of those that erred at the voting booths. Americans are more aware of the lack of Obama’s accomplishments. Nobel Peace Prize? Yasser Arafat? Al Gore?
      C’mon people, the once nobel award is nobel no more, it no longer carries the prestige and the Nobel committee has seen to that. It reminds me of how the Indy 500 was once the Greatest Race in the World.

    • Beberoni says:

      No. This is what it is, if you are at all interested in the truth. Those fellows that cast the votes for this thing, are all die hard liberals that are anti-American. This is true, so lets get this fact down first. Second, this is their attempt to swat George W. Bush, and the Americans that have fought back against terrorism, that have fought and removed a murderous tyrant who has killed over a hundred thousand people, and have taken steps that have kept us safe for the last 8 years. While Clinton slept, the enemy set up and blew us up. Believe you me, if you are interested in the truth, they are again setting up shop while the current admin is sleeping, trying to set up their socialist state instead of keeping on the path of keeping us safe. Obama had done nothing at the point of their voting to even merit a consideration for this award, and has done even less up to the current time to be considered for this. However, this award doesnt mean anything anymore, as it was cheaply destroyed when the fell for the lies of Al Gore and gave him one. At least Jimmy Carter did something constructive with habitat for humanity, which I am grateful for him for. But Al Gore and Barrack Obama? Come on man.

      • Russell EnDean says:

        Jimmy was perceived as a nice man, and for some persons, still is. His most notable accomplishment, however, was the establishment of the “Department of Energy” whose sole task was to make the USA 100% energy independent from the world. I believe the current taxpayer cost of this fraud is $40B per year.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Beb, luckly your opinon doesn’t count.

      • Beberoni says:

        Thats exactly how the democrats feel, that the opinion of the American people and the truth doesnt count. Thank you for echoing that sentiment. Spoken like a true left wing liberal. Im surprised you didnt go further and declare that I also am not entitled to have an opinion.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        No, Berb, your opinion doesn’t count, I personally don’t think most of the Republicans are as radical as you.

      • Beberoni says:

        To eyes, your right pal, the Republicans arent as “radical” as you say I am. I stick to my guns on what is right and what is wrong. I watched the Bush admin do one thing really wrong. They reached across the aisle and tried to work with these left wing liberal democrats, and gave them things to get things done, and I would have told them to go to hell, and done the right things anyhow. Working with these guys got us into a mess, and created all these billion dollar pork barrell projects, ie Robert “Sheets” Byrd the king of the pork. No sir, that is the one thing I hold against the Bush admin, was trying to work with these liberal wankers and letting them have things they shouldnt have been given. I would have stuck to my guns.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Bebe, why should they have reached across the aisle? They had the power to do anything they wanted. Problem was they didn’t want to do anything that helped the average American. Immigration reform would have already been in force, saving us money and heartache, but no, the repubs wouldn’t even support their own Presedent who wanted the reform. Get real and read a little of recent history.

      • Beberoni says:

        Oh, but it does count lady. It counts to million and millions of us who are concerned with the truth, but I can see from your posts, that the truth is of no concern to you. And to prove my opinion counts, and that others feel this way. Watch what happens in 2010 and 2012. Lady, you arent going to be happy. But, you will be better off when these anti-American liberals are voted out.

      • Dee D says:

        Cheney done a super job of swatting Jr. Beberoni and the rest of Americans as well, including Iraq.
        Who armed the tyrant you are speaking of, who accepted the arms and turned them on his own people?

      • Beberoni says:

        Uh,I think you are confused. He used the arms we gave him against Iran, and then yes, he used them to invade Kuwait. But the gases he used to kill millions of Kurds and his own, he developed in a lab without our help.

      • Beberoni says:

        And also, how dare you defend him like it is right. Get out of the country you anti American. You owe Mr. Bush a thank you, and Cheney also. Without them and what they did, in 10 years you would be speaking Arabic you loser.

      • Dennis says:

        Beberoni,
        Amen my brother Amen to all 3 comment’s

      • cr747 says:

        HANG IN THERE BEBERONI. YOU GO, HE GOT MY VOTE

      • Beberoni says:

        In case you didnt notice for 8 years, Cheney was the VP, not the president. Kind of like blaming Biden for all this crap that Obama is trying. Right. You just dont get it. Let the hatred go. Bush and Cheney have been gone almost a year now. You guys have all the power and all the chances in the world to make a difference. Let the hatred go. Bush and Cheney have no say so, and havent for almost a year. The finger pointing stops, so whatever happens from here on out, is your guys, ok? They are the ones dropping the ball, spending more in 8 months that the other guys did in 8 years. Bush and Cheney didnt make them spend it. They didnt make them give GM and Chrysler and the UAW billions of dollars to buy their votes for the future. Come on. Put the finger away, and take responsibility for your own parties failures.

    • Gumnaam says:

      The most striking comment was by someone on BBC Tv. While expressing surprise, the person said: Well, Obama got the award because Bush must have been so awful”.

      • Beberoni says:

        And these foreigners got this from ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and MSNBC, which threw the United States of American under the bus to further the agenda of the Democratic Party. Then Obama went on his world tour throwing this great country under the bus also, to once again elevate his party. When you have to discredit the other guy, to try to make yourself look good, you really dont have nothing viable to bring to the table. Theyve got nothing.

    • Ken says:

      You’ve got it Foolpatrol. Obama has made several trips overseas to gain respect and cooperation for the apologetic USA. Has he gained any respect or cooperation? Quite to the contrary. He has accomplished nothing in cooperation – our allies still will not do what we need assistance with. Our not so close allies will not cooperate either. Russia & China on Iran. The North Korean agenda. In fact, his diplomacy has been severely critizied by the French President. No assistance on the war on terror. Not even an Olympic win. Great going Obama. You sure deserve a prize. But the Nobel Peace Prize is nothing but a big joke on you and all Americans.

      • Rod says:

        Ken, remember the Russians woudn’t even shake his hand. How about
        completly ignored him. I love those Russians!

      • eyeswideopen says:

        So, you love it when this country is shown disrespect? How dare you call yourself a Patriot? You continually route against your own country. There is another word for you!!!

      • Beberoni says:

        I am an American. The words this president has spoken against the United States of America, the attacks he still makes against the last president is not only un-professional and amaturistic, it is un-American to do that in front of and to the enemy, and the actions he has taken are un-American, so he does not represent me, as his words and actions do not represent the United States of America. He is a traitor as far as 80 percent of us Americans are concerned, including many of those who pulled his lever, and now see the real loser he is.

      • cr747 says:

        Eyes, there is another word for you two: IDIOT!!!!!!!! I served 22 years. How many did you serve?

    • Robin, Arcadia, IN says:

      Fool.. Did you even read this article? Did you miss the part where the nominations had to be submitted by Feb 1st? He has had no accomplishments then or now. Someone bought him this ‘prize’. It was fixed, just like the election. I have no respect whatsoever for a Noble Prize winner. If the committee can be bought off so easily and duped time and time again, they are not reputable and the distinguished award means nothing.

      • Dennis says:

        Thank You Robin,
        First on the nobel prize statement,your right, it’s (WORD REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT). Even more importantly the fixed election statement. Does anyone remember, Acorn and their fraudulent votes? Well I’m sure plenty of them were fraudulent in this presidential election. Not to mention, The East African Standard Online Edition. Sunday June 27, 2004. Headline reads… Kenyan-Born Obama all set for the US Senate. NOTICE … KENYAN BORN = Fraudulent citizenship,also. How in the hell is all this overlooked by this country???

      • April says:

        Thank you Dennis
        The liberal media working hard to NOT do their job. They cover these kind of things up constantly. We have to keep talking and never shut up til these wrongs are made right.

    • Mike Aceves says:

      Fool Patrol: You are absolutely brilliant-thats got to be the reason-how about all the other Presidents prior to this one! I suppose none of them were so motivational! Your handle is perfect-but you won’t have to leave your own backyard to patrol.

    • jackie says:

      Yassar Arafat won the award as well,what does that make him?

      • Beberoni says:

        Im kind of surprised they didnt give one also to Baby Doc Duvalier, that African dude that slaughtered thousands to keep power. He was along the lines of Arafat, simply a terrorist.

    • Mario says:

      How do you inspire dictators who murder their own people? Please explain stupid

      • Dee D says:

        Mario – Do as the non thinking Americans do.
        Vote a party line and keep putting the same-o – same-o back into office and make excuses for them all the time.
        Since they are the ones we choose they are above the law and can do as they please even if it destroys us from with-in.

      • Beberoni says:

        Hey Dee Ditz, thats exactly what your left wing wacko’s are doing, destroying us from within. Every move they make weakens us as a nation, democrat and republican and independant alike. The dems weaken us daily. Hurry up 2010.

    • Chaplain Rodger De Ramus says:

      If there is really anybody in America that actually thinks obama deserved the Nobel Peace Prize, then they ARE fooled. With all of the many rightfully deserving people out there that has spent their lives promoting peace, tslap in the face of them all. If obama had any guts, he’d turn it down and give it to someone who really deserves

      • Beberoni says:

        No he did not deserve it. Facts are facts, and truth is truth. Anyone who says he deserved to win this, is a cold blood agenda filled liar. He did nothing, and has continued to do nothing, except spend money, give money to GM and Chrysler who do not deserve it. Spend money expanding unemployment and food stamps, so that those that are too lazy to work can do it even longer. He has caused millions to lose their jobs, and when he rescinds the tax cuts in 2010, millions more will lose their jobs. Of course these Bush tax cuts, the left will tell you they only benefit the rich, and not acknowledge that these tax cuts allowed business’s to hire millions of people by freeing up cash that use to be used to pay taxes. Now that they are going to be taken away in 2010, millions will lose their jobs, because now that money is going into the tax coffers, instead of into peoples pockets that are working for it. They just dont get it.

    • Walt Campbell says:

      Dear Foolpatrol.

      Please continue to drink the cool aid. This president, to quote his own words, is a “jackass”. He hasn’t down anything constructive. All he wants to complish is to turn us into a fabulus country like France, along with the other European socialist losers.

      We only have 3 years left of this “jackass”. Then we can put a conservative in office to stop the funding on his programs and begin the repairs necessary. I’m for free markets and no welfare for any- one. In addition, you can send all the invaders back to their appropriate country.

      Like Reagan said “peace through strength” not peace because Barry kissed the ass of all the socialist world leaders.

      I can’t help but remember how Barry built up his activities with acron and his community organizers. Well we know the truth about them. If Barry ever held a real job, maybe, just maybe, he would begin to understand free economic systems. I know he is use to taking bailouts from taxpayers.

      Impeacement is the best solution to save our country from this traitor.

      It’s simple to me. America, love it or leave it. We have the best constitution in the world. It doesn’t need to cahnge or be modified in any fashion.

      I think you meed to go to church more often to get the real meaning of life.

      May God bless you!

    • Jerry says:

      Well Foolpatrol: It is like this .First I agree with Don. And next I wish to say that we are in the mess we are in because of people like you.
      So hear is the deal if WE THE PEOPLE loose this fight, then you that win over us will get exactly what you deserve. THe loss of your freedoms,Liberty and your children will be in debt to the goverment for the rest of their lives. So I guess that this is what you really want. BETTER THINK LONG AND HARD ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON HERE.
      GOD BLESS AMERICA AND IN GOD WE TRUST

    • chris says:

      upping the forcea in afganistan is hardly peacefull discussion. he promised too end one war, and instead has increased the efforts in both, so his only accomplishments on that front are the compleat oppisite of his promices.

    • keith says:

      the only award he should get is the ”liar of the mellenium award!”

    • Jackie says:

      I guess you would be referring to the cooperation that the Iranian government is giving us. They are playing Obama. They see him as weak. They are just buying time, they have no intention of cooperating and Obama is to naive to see this.

    • knewborn says:

      Foolpatrol, you are exactly right, and for those that are in denial that racism is playing a part with all of the hatred that is being spread on this website just goes to show “he that is ignorant, let hiim remain ignorant still”. I never would imagine that Americans could be so dumb, and make all of the false accusations that they have against this administration. I hope President Obama takes the attitude that he doesn’t care what you ignorant racist think, just do what is best for the United States and History will tell the story. Now it is popular to be a racist and then deny it. Why don’t you (word removed for offensive content) just admit what you are? Nobody cares what you think anyway, life goes on. Get a life, and not here in America/

  2. Geo says:

    I have yet read, seen, nor heard what Obama has actually done to deserve the award. All I hear is lame excuses to why he got it. I agree with some that one of our Generals fighting in Afghanistan or Iraq should have gotten it, as they has done more for peace than Obama has… Unless you count bowing to foreign leaders, or apologizing about our country. Of course I am certainly glad that G. W Bush 43 did NOT get the award.

    I really suspect what got Obama the award is this: It was his humble arrogance, his willingness to stoop to the level of puppy dog for all of the world leaders, his willingness to push things through congress in a hurry because we have no time to wait, but take 6 months choosing a dog for his kids… I am sure all of these things that aroused the Nobel Committee’s attention…

    It is more akin to a disgrace than an honor in my personal opinion.

    • Dorothy says:

      Geo,I believe if G.W.Bush 43 had received the nobel prize he would have had the wisdom and commonsence to not accept it

      • Dee D says:

        Can’t agree with your way of thinking Dorothy.
        After all he accepted the highest office in the land without being elected to the seat. Then was on vacation for most of his tenure. The poor little guy was thrust into a position he could not handle and his total lack of education was like a bright beacon whenever he did appear.
        Poor little guy could not even enunciate clearly, but he did not have to worry about it – cause Daddy’s bucks and Cheney took care of everything for him. He was only president for 8 years and Obama only received his prize once and donated the money to charity.

      • Dee D says:

        Dorothy will Jr donate the $400,000.00 yearly salary to chairty? Doubt it.

      • Beberoni says:

        Wow! Im not sure Ive ever heard a woman so filled with hatred of a person in my life. He did wonderful things. He kept you safe, He kept all of us safe. He slapped back at the enemy. He is gone now, so let it go. Let the hatred go. You keep carrying that anger, it’ll eat you up inside.

      • libertytrain says:

        I’ve always been stunned how it’s always been ok for the media, and the others, to continually bash Bush but somehow, now, it’s not politically correct to voice opinions about the current president — One of life’s great mysteries.

      • Dee D says:

        Beberoni – He did not do squat. Just put his time in, let Cheney and the Republican cronies do the job they done to the world.
        He did not keep us safe in any way. Had he been able to read the reports supplied, or been interested, he could have saved America on 9/11. But Cheney decided he needed a platform to run on to try to excuse the reasons for lying to the American public to further his move into Iraq, who had NOTHING to do with 9/11.

      • Dee D says:

        Beber – It is only hatred because thats how you choose to read it.
        I hate no one period. I am sorely disappointed as to how people like you can not, will not, see facts as they are. Like Fauxx News – you put your own spin on any and everything to justify your line of reasoning.

      • cr747 says:

        Who to? the black college fund or split between the Democrats for vacation?

    • ccg says:

      Why didn’t you know??? He is the GREAT COMMUNITY ORGANIZER. Ha, and once a community organizer always a community organizer. The only problem is we are not a community, we are a great Nation.

      Obama is not a unifier, he is a divider. By his very actions and by what he says, he lets us know that he does not consider himself President of all of the people. Just the ones who voted for him and support him.

      He is in way over his head. I am not A Democrat but Hillary Clinton would have been a much better President than this man is.

      • Beberoni says:

        Well just look at all his close associates. The dirty Rezko guy. The racist Rev. Wright. The terrorist Bill Ayers. The thug Rham Emmanuel. These are his close buddies. What a guy.

      • Dee D says:

        Beberoni – Still Bill Ayers hype huh?
        How old was Obama when he came into contact with Ayers?
        Your intelligence is showing.

      • ccg says:

        D.D.
        He was an adult and still friends with him. In fact Ayers is the one who held Obama’s first fund raiser. He has been associated with him all along. So what does age have anything to do with it?

      • Dee D says:

        CCG – Obama was not an adult with his first encounter with Ayers. Ayers now is an accredited professor in a credited college.

      • ccg says:

        D.D. He may have been a child when he first met him, but he is an adult now, and he is still associating with this to put it politely SCUM BAG!
        An accredited professor? You have got to be kidding. This man took bombs and blew up buildings. I don’t know if he killed anyone, but it’s not for lack of trying. To this day he is non repentant, in fact he has stated that he is sorry he didn’t do more. This man is a criminal.
        I have seen pictures he has on his walls which shows his hatred and disdain for this country.
        He is teaching our youth to hate like he does.
        What kind of a person are you? You say you are a Christian yet you defend this type of person? You don’t make sense here.

        Obama was not an adult with his first encounter with Ayers. Ayers now is an accredited professor in a credited college.

      • ccg says:

        D.D.
        That last statement is what you said, I just forgot to delete it.

      • Dee D says:

        ccg – No one in your league ever done anything wrong. By your league I mean party. Don’t care what you do – what you say – if a free thinker finds fault with your kind – they are wrong. You are so super – super smart there is absolutely nothing else for you to learn.
        If you get what you want then all of mankind will suffer right along with you.

      • ccg says:

        DD that’s what we all think about you dear. You label yourself with your own words. Go look in the mirror and make this statement. It is very appropriate.
        Everyone knows that neither party is all good or all bad. They are made up of human beings and we are going to have the good the bad and the ugly in everything. It is up to the voters to vote out the bad.
        From the way you talk as long as it is liberal and a member of the Democratic Party even if it was a goat you would vote for it. That’s a shame.

      • Beberoni says:

        Dee Dee, are you Dum Dum? His whole run for the presidency was hatched in Bill Ayers home, so you tell me just how young he was, like 2 to 3 years ago when this happened. He still sits on boards with the guy. What are you blind, or just uneducated. Good grief.

      • Robin, Arcadia, IN says:

        ccg.. I have to agree that if we had to have a Democrat in office as President, Hillary would have been a better choice. At least I know I wouldn’t question her patriotism, and I doubt she would be making apologies to the world on our behalf…

      • Dee D says:

        Robin – Do you have any idea of how many trips Hillary made to China when Bill was the pres.?
        I’d like to know the reason for all these trips myself.
        Then Jr finished selling us out to China, while we consumers went along for the ride, aided and abetted. Yep, we asked for it and we got it.
        However, we can and will continue to blame anyone for all that’s come down and will continue coming down the pike instead of admitting we are all a lot less than perfect.
        If China calls in her markers we all had better learn how to speak the language.

      • ccg says:

        D.D.
        We didn’t say we wanted her as Pres. but of the only viable two that we had to choose from on the Deomcrat’s side, she would have been better than Obama. Not much better, but at this point anyTHING would have been better than Obama.

      • Dee D says:

        Ditto ccg – I still believe Obama was the better of what we had to vote on.
        McSame would have been a continuation of the Cheney Administration and I truly believe we could not handle another 4 to 8 years of the same o – same-o.
        It’s a shame we sometimes must vote for a lesser of two evils tho.
        The Republican party put Palin in hoping to take Hillary’s vote but the women outsmarted them. God help us.

      • Beberoni says:

        No, it was Bill Clinton that did the China deals, and gave them technology, and sold our work force down the river to Mexico, letting all those companies move their and still sell their goods here. Quit blaming Bush. He tried to place import taxes on them to equal up the trade deficit, only the democratic congress would allow it.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Bebe, you are totally confused. The Republicans held control of Congress from 1995 to 2007. Both Houses. No wonder you people are a little wackie, you don’t even realize that the Republicans had control and you think that the Dem’s were able to stop you from getting what you wanted. LMAO, LMAO, I guess there are thousands of you out there, who don’t even know that you had the power…too funny, just too funny.

      • cr747 says:

        Yea, and goggle eyeswide shut. they will have control again in 2010. Thank GOD we will have some people in there with some sense to get rid of the prez by i m p e a c h i n g him.

      • L, USA says:

        No, Shortly after the second election of President George W. Bush, there was a seat given up by one of the Republican members, thereby losing a majority vote. democrat stonewalling stifled American growth due to pork barrel and tax status quo in passing of bills or vetos, and we did use the veto pen as necessary. God Bless America!

      • Jeremiah says:

        We WERE a superpower in the past only because God blessed the devout men and women who established this country, who honored and obeyed Him. We’ve now lost God’s favor after years and years of ignoring Him, putting football, recreation, tv, sex, money, celebrities, etc.in His place, throwing Him out of schools, government, etc. through the deliberate misinterpretation of “church and state,” legalizing and promoting sodomy and gay ‘marriage’, the murder of innocents, the elderly and disabled with health care ‘reform’, stem cell research, cloning and now the ultimate spitting in His holy eye, our joining the world in coming against Israel, the apple of His eye. In Genesis God says He will, “bless those who bless thee, and curse those who curse thee,” referring to Israel.

        We’re all sinners, the wages of sin is death, someone has to pay for our sin on Judgment Day and if it’s us, we’ll go to hell because none of us has lived a perfect life according to the Ten Commandments. It’s not too late however to ask God for forgiveness for your sins and accept what Jesus did for you on the Cross in paying your sin debt ~ that and ask Jesus to be your Savior. Only if we all did that, could our nation once again be blessed.

      • JeffH says:

        The cofessional is across the street dude. This ain’t the church!

      • ccg says:

        JeffH
        However, he speaks the truth. Just because you don’t believe in what God’s Word says doesn’t make it so. If you don’t believe and you don’t like it then don’t read it.

      • JeffH says:

        ccg, where did I say I didn’t believe the word of god? I didn’t!

      • ccg says:

        JeffH
        Good. Thank you for clarifying. I appreciate it.

      • Beberoni says:

        And you speak the truth, which many in here will reject. Having the light, I fully understand what you say, and recognize the truth it is, as the Scriptures tell us all about it in full. Bigger dynasties or whatever you want to call them, have fallen before us, being delivered to far lesser enemies, as they because so perverted and decadent, that God had had enough of them, and gave them over to their enemies. It is true, the only reason we have it so good here, is our mass amount of Christians in this nation. As our leaders continually move us away from God, and kick Him out of everywhere, and us Christians become more and more selfish by keeping the Good Word to ourselves, God gets more and more removed from us. Soon we will be given up, and those that are blind dont see it.

      • JuJu says:

        It is scary that Obama is the President. No telling what is gonna come up next or if we still have a country left. I agree, I do think Hillary Clinton would of been a better president leader. She is a very smart scholar. As far as G W Bush, he was a joke and a puppet on a string. He put our country so far in debt we’ll be lucky if we get out. At least Bill Clinton had us in the black and out of debt before Bush took over.

      • JeffH says:

        Would make no differance, SOROS was going to own the sole of a Democrat no matter who it was.

      • Beberoni says:

        What do you mean “was”? He’s allready bought them all. Bought and paid for. Now they are indebted to him and must pay him back. They sold their soul to the devil, now they must pay.

      • Dennis says:

        B. Clinton and Acorn started this housing market downfall. Do you recall WHITEWATER… Clintons cheated millions on taxes… A bunch of people went to prison, but not the Clintons, they just paid back a few bucks. Besides she has been lying about her recent trips overseas, that they have been sucessful… If you call NO HELP on the war on terrorism sucessful, well then she done well.

      • Dee D says:

        Dennis – Our downfall started with deregulation of the money controllers under the Regan Administration. One of the biggest deregulators and money controlling jackels is the Federal Reserve. JFK was assassinated because he was going to do away with the Federal Reserve. And we’ve continuated to slide downhill ever since.

      • Dennis says:

        DeeD
        Well I certaintly agree with you on the Federal reserve issue. But first my comment was on the downfall of the housing market. As for the Federal Reserve… well they have been controlling this country since George Washington been president. The masons started the Federal Reserve and had the strong hold since. On the one dollar bill,the paramid with the eye in the center and the letters around it. If you draw their diagram pointing to the letters around the eye it spells out mason. They call the shots, but even though Federal is in their names, they are not part of the government. BUT, have government control of our money? HUMM!!!

      • Dee D says:

        Dennis – You are right about the Masons but you are not going deep enough into a whole story.
        Every organization has had it’s place in our society. The problems arise when GREED rears his ugly head.
        KKK is an abborrent and detestable organization today, but when it was first organized it was to protect women and children. Then some zealot figured out a way to use man to accomplish his dastardly deeds and angry men bought into the scheme. Or men who really believed they were the only smart ones in the pack.
        Masonic rules were originally based on the Bible and was a worthwhile organization. They still do a lot of good, but also due to greed they are in violation of being a wholly worthwhile organization. Again men bought into the final version.
        Knights Of Columbus – another worthwhile organization at one point in time. Man again destroyed the main concept.
        Now to get back to the Masonic Eye. You stated it perfectly when you referred to the pyramid. The pyramid is now the major concept that we all are and have been living under for quite awhile. Man again figured out a way to take advantage and benefit. Only the top few in the scheme are the winners and the rest of us are the slaves and enablers to the whole scheme of things.
        Man is his own worst enemy. We take something right and good and distort it to benefit a few, caring nothing for anyone but themselves and what they can obtain.
        That is our fault. We are not willing to learn from the past because it is so much simpler to stand back, do nothing to improve any situation and point fingers and blame the world for our sorry lot in life. Also to try to make others feel inferior to our intelligence. We call them stupid, crazy, lazy or any other vile word to get our point of view across. We don’t even respect ourselves so how can we respect any other opinion except our own?
        I ask a lot of questions. I do want input and there are really no stupid questions if by chance one is capable of doing a little research for an answer instead of wanting the whole group to believe my beliefs are the only rule to follow. I want to continue learning every day of my life because I will be the first to admit – I may be dumb – but not completely stupid and I am willing to learn.
        Today a few of the posters needs to learn everything they can about the up and coming Skull and Bones organization and the ONE WORLD ORDER. This will be the Alpha and Omega of our used to be Democratic process. We may want to rename Democratic to DEMONcrats. And the new greedy Demoncratic will be comprised of Republicans, Democrats, Green, Independents and Libertarians and every other greedy self serving scum bag in our society. It will be the total rule for the masses world wide. No honest or reputable individual will be included
        in the rule making process because the money will talk and no one will have a vote or say. We will do or we will die.
        AGAIN MAN IS THE CULPRIT and greed and control is the game.

      • Beberoni says:

        You mention the Clinton’s and Whitewater, and dont forget there was also the Mena Arkansas drug ring, that was leading back to the governors office in Arkansas, who at that time was one William Jefferson Clinton. Everyone associated with it mysteriously died, even some suicides where they were shot in the back of the head. Dont believe it, look it up. Vince Foster knew something about whitewater, and he is gone. Barrack may not know what he is doing, and is digging a big hole for us, but those Clinton’s are down right dangerous, even more than him.

      • Beberoni says:

        If you think Clinton had us in the black, look again. Smoke and mirrors. He cut the intelligence and military in half, which led to all these terrorist roaming about and blowing up the WTC. He raped the social security coffers. He sold our manufacturing and the unions to Mexico with NAFTA, and when you add up all the colateral damage this cat did, no, he didnt have us in the black. You all put him on this “economic pedestal”, but let me enlighten you about something. When all the press was saying the economy under Bush was in the tank, in his last two years, the stock market was still higher that it was under Clinton, the unemployment rate was still lower than it was under Clinton, and employment in this country was still higher than it ever was under Clinton. But since the democrats own ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and MSNBC, you didnt get to hear everyday of how good things were. While they were good, they were telling us they werent, and you uneducated people actually believed their lies. Look at the facts, and youll see all I say here is true. The press lies, because they are the democrats man, and they arent going to give good news about the republicans. Come on man. They have no vested interest in reporting the truth. They are propaganda machines, and that is all they are.

      • Jerry says:

        Commet to ccg> AMEN BROTHER YOU HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD. (words removed for offensive content) -

      • Dee D says:

        Jerry – And the super intelligent ride on.

    • cr747 says:

      The dog is smarter than him, at least he’s housebroken, and knows better to let them put on a pair of women jeans to go out in front of a crowd where his jeans said MOM

    • ccg says:

      The last statement was what you said, I just forgot to delete it.

  3. U.S. MARINE says:

    At least Foolpatrol got his name correct. No matter who has the reins of power in Washington, they always have a battle for us to fight. We in the Marines would much rather fight for the GOP. At least they won’t try to steal our TRICARE healthcare system. I cannot believe this Obama guy and the Budget Office our actually considering taking away our military healthcare to pay for the free programs he promised the deadbeats who elected him. So you want war huh?

    • Geo says:

      I should have stated President Obama. I mean no disrespect.

      • John says:

        He is yet too earn my respect.

      • Geo says:

        Like him or not he is our president. Trust me I think Obama is taking us down the path to Communism or Fascism. He is smug, arrogant, has no pride for his country, He has very little good to say about our country, nor its people. He has Marxists, Communists, and those who think Mao, Chavez, and Castro are worth looking up to as “Czars” or “Special Advisers”. I believe he is attempting to put as many people out of work to make them dependent on the government for handouts so that he will stay in power for as long as possible. I believe he hates the Constitution. But God has placed him there, praise God for the awakening of our country. Still he is our President.

      • John says:

        Exactly those are some of the reasons why he has NOT earned my respect. And I do NOT believe that God placed him there. A bunch of idiots i.e., Bush haters placed him there!

      • ccg says:

        Goe:

        By his very actions and by what he says, he lets us know that he does not consider himself President of all of the people. Just the ones who voted for him and support him.

      • Beberoni says:

        While true that he is our President, I respect that office. However, the person in it, should be able to earn our respect, because respect is earned, not given. He has done nothing yet to earn it. And Im willing to give him the chance to do that, but it seems at every step, he is taking us backwards, as he listens to his left wing cronies who are so out of touch with America and the common man, that I dont really see any hope for him earning much respect from anyone.

      • ccg says:

        Bebe. All he does is stand up in front of audiences and complain about the Republicans, or G.W. Bush. In fact he gives so many speeches that he has no time to think about our troops in Afghanistan. He has to prepare for these speeches and he has to go to different cities to give these speeches.
        Also you know that when he flew over to talk to the Olympic committee it cost $900,000. to fly his plane times 2 because Michelle went the day before in another plane.

        I keep looking for something to respect the guy for, but he is so wrong for this country that I can’t find even one thing.

      • gaetano says:

        Hey geo, I think you hit on a point,when you said he has no pride for his country.Now all we have to do his figure out what country is really his? I never believed that Mr. Obama was or ever will be an american.I would really like to know what purpose he has in this country. It certainly is not to lead,or to protect.Ive worked all my life and raised a family of six.Now I have cancer in my old age. I thought retireing with my wife and children by my side would be a beautiful finish,but find myself living in fear ,for my family, and what is to become of this world.I don`t know the answer,and I probbaly won`t be here to see the out come of Obama.But it will be disastrous, I am led to believe.

      • cr747 says:

        He doesn’t know what respect is, now you know how we felt when all us vets. returned from nam

      • ccg says:

        Where I am from we didn’t treat our returning vets from Nam badly. We honored them as heroes, just like you should have been honored.
        I thank you for your service. You answered the call of your country, and served. You have my highest respect.

      • cr747 says:

        Thanks ccg, I salute you.

      • Beberoni says:

        We honor all you Vietnam vets here in Indiana also. My brother lost his 3 best friends there. I too, thank you for your service.

    • Beberoni says:

      Thank you sir for your service, that allows me to write this post today, and that allows fools like foolpatrol to shoot off his uneducated mouth. I think those that cry about the right, about the Christians, and about the military, forget that if it wasnt for these groups, what a mess things would be. At least now we still have the hope of getting these left wing liberal pacifist appeasers out of here in 2010 and 2012, and getting the country back to work, and giving the military what they need to win, up to and including the highest leaders wanting to win. Our current leaders want to lose and dont care how many get killed, so they can make it all collapse and blame Bush. Its sad, but this is truly how they think. Old Obamination, Biden, Pelosi, Reid, Shummer, Rangel, Dodd, Kerry, Edwards, Clinton, Feinstein, Frank, Dean, Boxer, and many more Ive missed, are all a bunch of lying sniveling pacifist who do not have the best interests of the country in mind, and it is evident if one just listens to the words that come out of their mouths.

      • cr747 says:

        Thanks Brberoni, you stated it just like it is, vote them out in 2010, and put somebody in their place that cares for the good old United States.

    • Todd says:

      I have many friends in the military, most of whom are currently in Iraq or Afghanistan. Not a single one of them supports Obama’s administration. In fact, some have said that they feel that Obama and the liberal Democrats are a far greater threat to America than the enemies the soldiers face every day. Soldiers are being asked to risk their lives for political agendas instead of concrete goals. In my day, a soldier was’nt sent to die for his country. He was sent to make the enemy die for theirs. We wouldn’t have to worry about Gitmo, because if they shot at us, they died in the field. It’s not pretty and it’s not popular, but it’s war – not a ladies auxiliary meeting. These politicians tie the hands of our military, give them rediculous rules of engagement, cut their funding, and limit their manpower. Then,if they survive and come home,they have their benefits cut and their performance evaluated for political correctness. For what it’s worth, Marine, you’re not alone. The only thing we can do now is try to wake up the rest of our country and vote these liberal traitors out of leadership in 2010. Thank you for your service and commitment. Semper Fi.

    • Russell EnDean says:

      Dear American Brother:

      Thank you for your service. You are right, now we have a domestic war to fight, on top of all else. We thought that we had defeated Slavery more than a Century ago, but apparently mental illness still prevails in Washington.

    • Dee D says:

      U.S. Marine – Keep fighting for the GOP. They did not have to steal anything because they owned the whole mess Obama is trying to clean up.
      They have had their bottomless pockets filled so many times they really don’t need anybody now. They are RICH.

      • EDNA says:

        I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE ALL OF YOU ARMY,MARINES,ALL I LOVE YOU. BUT THIS GUY STILL PLAYING COMMUNITY ORGANIZER HE IS NOTHING BUT A JOKE.HE NEEDS TO BE REMOVED,I CRY WHEN I THINK OF WHATS HAPPENING IN THIS COUNTRY MY COUNTRY I AM A SENIOR NOW AND I HOPE TO GOD SOMETHING IS DONE, LETS ALL REMOVED HIM BEFORE HE DESTROY US ALL.

      • April says:

        We’re sure gonna try EDNA!! Never give up hope.

      • Beberoni says:

        Pull your head out. How you gonna see what is the truth when you refuse to look? Stop the Bush hatred, and investigate the truth, and find out what is and what isnt, because you have been led amuck by your anti American left wing liberal pacifist appeasing democrats.

    • Dee D says:

      Oh U.S.Marine – please do a little research.
      Cheney cut all servicemen and womens benefits.
      Supplied inferior arms and equipment to keep them safe.
      Then drummed a lot out with pre-existing mental disorders so they could take back their enlistment pay.
      Then tried to make them pay for lost equipment.
      How many of your buddies has had to live on welfare?
      Check into the conditions of the mold and disease riddled hospitals they were sent to. Especially here in the states if they were lucky enough to come back.
      That’s the thanks and gratitude our brave troops were shown for their contribution of fighting in Cheney’s and the Republicans illegal war in Iraq.

      • Beberoni says:

        Yeah right. And Cheney and Bush built all those old hospitals that were built before they were born. Bush and Cheny continually fought for the best equipment and arms for our men and woman, but constantly had to fight to get the democratic congress to approve them, and have to let these liberals slip all kinds of pork into the bills to get the armaments our military needed. Look into the truth you ditz, and it must might set you free. But you are so filled with hatred, I dont know why you dont just move to Iran or Syria where they will understand and back up your hatred of America.

  4. bill says:

    Obama himself said he thought the award was for what he might do or was to encourage him.
    Of course right wing nut cases CHEER when he fails and can’t stand it when he gets an award (and some money for charity)

    • Dorothy says:

      Thats well and good,but why didnt he turn it down and just say wait until i produce some fruit of my labor.

      • Elaine says:

        I totally agree with Dorothy. He could have turned it down. He did seem sincere in being shocked that he won. He would be in good company with the thousands and thousands of the rest of us that were also shocked. I wonder if I can get a good credit report for having good intentions of repaying a loan?????

      • ccg says:

        He should have been shocked. He didn’t deserve it.

      • JeffH says:

        My thoughts as well. As for bill, the left dislikes us right wingnuts.

      • Dee D says:

        Dorothy – Elaine -ccg – JeffH: Who are you to say Obama should have turned it down? Why should he have turned it down? He is trying to change things and a lot of people put him down and try to make decisions for him. He’s damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t. Is it so very hard for anyone to at least give him a chance? You say he’s accomplished nothing. Are any of you able to see any accomplishment if its there?
        If any of you watch horse races why bother seeing who may win. Just shoot the horses at the starting gate and there will be no problems.

      • JeffH says:

        Obama’s NPP was bought and paid for. It was and had not been earned by him. Once again, the Prince of Darkness, George Soros, used his money and influence to get his “puppet” Obama the NPP.

      • ccg says:

        The Nobel Peace Prize was named after a guy named Nobel. It doesn’t mean it’s noble in any way, and it obviously isn’t. The only thing that makes it worth anything is there is a large sum of money that goes with it. The idea or ideology behind this prize is meaningless. It seems to go to the most disreputable people in the world, so maybe Obama did deserve it.

      • Beberoni says:

        Hey Dee Ditz, Ive watched this horse race for what, 11 months now. Ive seen these clowns spend in the first 8 months what the last admin did in 8 years. And that whole 8 years, all they did was complain that the Bush admin spent to much. What the hell? Ive watched him free terrorists, and give them lawyers, and put our military guys in jail instead. What the hell? Is he and his boys nuts? Ive watched him go on a global apology round, damning our great country, while the Taliban and Al Quaeda applaud him. Sorry girl, if the enemy likes the guy running things here, its probably not a good thing for America. Ok, you understand? Capish? Hello, anyone home? He gave Chrysler and GM billions of dollars to ensure UAW votes for years to come, he expanded welfare and food stamps, so the mooches could mooch a little longer and stronger. He has balooned unemployment, costing millions of people jobs, and you just wait. These wankers are taking away Bush’s tax cuts in 2010, and millions more will lose their jobs when that happens. He has screwed up at every turn, and when he spends over a half million dollars to take his wife to dinner, well thats just a little too much, dont you think? Especially when its on my dime. Kiss his boys butts goodbye in 2010, and the rest of them in 2012. America has woken up, and these losers are out of here. Please join them and go away, your rhetoric is old. You sound like ABC

    • Beberoni says:

      I think he should take Abe Lincoln’s advice and go to the theatre. Just kidding. I think he should stop reading the crap his leaders are putting on his teleprompter, because its making him look like the fool, and soon they will turn and run and throw his butt under the bus. I see it coming. I wonder if he does?

      • Don in FL. says:

        He doesn’t need any help looking like a fool, trust me on this one

      • Dee D says:

        Don: Who told you he is a fool? I see and hear an educated man capable of speaking without the aid of a teleprompter, but looking down at his notes to deliver his message. I might add he has open meetings and not select groups who only are willing to agree with him.
        Isn’t it amazing that if 2 or 3 different people see and or hear the same message being delivered they come up with 2 or 3 different versions of the same incident? Who’s right? Who’s wrong?
        Interpretation is 50% of the whole procedure.

      • Beberoni says:

        If it says crappy things, and does crappy things, and thinks of crappy things, then Im pretty sure its a crappy thing. Yes, it is a crappy thing. Evidence supports this largely.

      • Beberoni says:

        Have you ever seen his speeches where his teleprompter screwed up. The guy was lost. It was all, ” I, uh, well I, um, and I, well I,” Um. He didnt have a clue. Its not coming from his heart. You all made fun of Bush because of his Texas drawl, and his pronunciation, but when he spoke, I for one could tell where it came from, from in his heart and you could tell he believed what he said. And he did what he said he would do. Your Barack does what his boys tell him to do. He is just the figure head. The democrat coalition in the dark rooms are telling him what to say and do, and its backfiring daily. And let me tell you something Miss Dee, these same cats, they will distance themselves from him to save their face, and leave him all the blame. I cannot believe that you cannot see that on his own, he has presented no ideas, no plans, no course of action. He just blindly follows the lefts playbook. But Missy, you will understand, when you see them distance themselves from him and throw him under the bus in the very near future, then at that point, you will say to yourself, “Tht Beberoni was right all along”. Just a little heads up for you. Have a great day Dee.

    • Todd says:

      There’s an old saying that “The road to Hell is paved with good intentions”. If that’s the case, Obamas got alot to work with and he’s taking us there pretty fast. But the Nobel prize isn’t supposed to go to someone for good intentions, is it? Now, it’s the equivalent of my son’s first football trophy when he was five years old – everybody got one for simply showing up. Even at that age, he knew it meant nothing as far as accomplishment. Maybe next he’ll get an Olympic gold medal or the Heisman trophy. After all, he did try to bring the Olympics to Chicago and does like sports. That should be good enough to qualify for the “Anointed One”. What a joke….

      • JeffH says:

        Just a thought..He is the one that must live with the knowledge that he had accomplished nothing that should have won him the award. Will he pull a Kerry in that regard, and flaunt it?

      • ccg says:

        Yes he probably will flaunt it. People who don’t really accomplish a lot always take credit for what others have done.

      • Dee D says:

        JeffH – Maybe he can pull a Kerry – Swift Boat – Birther – Tea Party thugs – or maybe he can use Ayers money to stay in and start some more wars, caring not that he may finish the job Cheney and the Republicans started.
        But I believe he is sincere and will do a good job overall. After all nothing can be any worse than what we had shoved down our throats before he was voted in office by the majority and not hand picked to be a fall guy.

      • Jackie says:

        Tea Party Thugs-The D.C. police stated that the people who marched on D.C. September 12, 09, were polite, caused no problems and cleaned up after themselves. Not one arrest was made. Compare that to the S.E.I.U. THUGS who beat up a black man at a Missouri Tea Party for siding with those in attendance, asking him what kind of nigger he was. The two men that beat him up were black. They were arrested, but interestingly enough have still not paid for hurting that man and probably won’t, because we know Obama and his crew are heavily tied to S.E.I.U.

        At the G-20 gathering in Pittsburgh the demonstrators threw stones at store windows,breaking many, and pushed garbage bins into the police patrols, I don’t here you mention anything about them.

        No, the people you choose to ridicule and call Thugs are those who peacefully assembled to voice their discontent.

      • Beberoni says:

        At least he didnt shoot himself in the butt and get a purple heart like Kerry did, then throw his fellow soldiers under the bus. Im kind of surprised one of Kerry’s ex vietnam mates didnt come shoot him over that one.

    • Beberoni says:

      If this is true, then brother we have been doing a lot of cheering lately.

    • April says:

      I’d rather be a right wing nut case than a left wing nut case. I was taught that you never get something for nothing; you earn repect and a good days pay.

      • Beberoni says:

        Amen sister. Very well said. Id rather stand for something and have some jerks not like me, than to be like a fart in the wind and blow which ever way seems popular at the time. Phonies on the left, for sure.

  5. Eve says:

    Dear Fool, Have you noted the inspiration in America pertaining to President Obama? Mostly to have him impreached. Instead of promoting peace and brotherly love he has chosen to incite racial dissention at every opportunity. He ignores, or worse, ridicules and degrades the American people he serves if they do not agree with him, when he should be listening to them and respecting their views. What respect has he gained? None here since he has none for America. Oh you mean his bowing and posturing to other countries dictorial leaders while apologizing for Americans who do not need to apologize for anything? I saw the respect they have for him when he ran to Copenhagen to be sent home like a whipped puppy. Cooperation? No, they expect him to capitulate to them because they believe he is a weak president and they are eagerly awaiting the fall of America. Is it worth a Nobel Peace award? The ruin of a great nation? They must have thought so when he was only twelve days into his presidency.

    • Sirwilliam says:

      Thank you Eve. You did well. We must get a Republican majority in both houses of Congress in 2010. It’s the only way to stop the insanity. Fascism is just a click away. This beta dog has the support of the world’s most corrupt governments who happen to be led by alpha dogs. His 39 “Czars” are eroading the powers of Congress. His Chicago thugs are ignoring the Constitution. He does not want to govern, he wants to Rule. And he truly believes he can do it.

      • I once thought that GOP in Congress and the Whitehouse was best, but I am convinced that only Conservatives or at least someone who protects and defends the Constitution will do. The Party system and lifetime politicians are the current problems that allow Progressives to dictate their will and allow otherwise good people to be silenced in Washington.

      • JeffH says:

        I expect the repercussions of my words, but do not count out Palin. She is starting her own “group” seperating herself from the GOP, and she at least understands the common citizens plight to survive and is a true American herself. Some call her name like stupid, but I have said all along, stupid like a fox.

      • Beberoni says:

        Mr. JeffH: And you and I both know why the left attacked her so viciously, dont we? Oh yeah. The woman scared the bejesus out of them. When someone comes along, that actually does what they say they are going to do, and actually represented the people she was elected to represent, they freaked out. Theyve never heard of such a thing. How dare she balance her states budget, and actually give money back to her people. How dare the people of her state like her. How dare she be so damn pretty. How dare she be so smart, and how dare she tell the truth and do what she says. Yeah, it pretty much scared the living hell out of them. They panicked and did what they do, they dug for dirt and attacked. They didnt find squat, so they have to make up stuff and got caught, only our liberal democratic propaganda networks of ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and MSNBC would follow up on the bullcrap they pulled and the lies they put out into public. You and I both know, that if the republicans hadnt have run a 150 year old man, that was a career politician, and would have ran Sarah Palin instead, Id say chances are we wouldnt have the mess we have now. Obama and his inexperienced Chicago thugs dont have a clue what to do, and it is showing. Thank God for the elections in 2010 and 2012, that we as a country, can rid ourselves of this mistake.

      • Dee D says:

        Rattling The Cage:
        The real problem with our downward slide on Democracy is the voters who keep voting the scum bags back into office.

      • JeffH says:

        So true!

      • Beberoni says:

        I totally agree, and in 2008 more scumbags were elected at one time than I have ever seen, and Im thankful we get a chance in 2010 and 2012 to rectify these mistakes.

      • Elaine says:

        You both are so right and this is what is so scarey. We have got to do something before our great country is ruined forever and all our rights are gone. I don’t think some people believe what is happening. I don’t understand why they cannot see it.

      • Beberoni says:

        Its not just him. Its the democratic party as a whole. They are in bed with bad bad things.

      • JeffH says:

        Everyone should realize that anti-American GEORGE SOROS, who controls Obama and the Democratic Party, is the biggest threat to Americas freedom. Do some serious research which will reveal his commitment, participation and formation of anti-American groups. He is a confessed Nazi collaberator against Jews in Germany during WWII, although he and his family were jews themselves. The father had changed their last name to hide from their jewish heritage.
        Just a note, unbeknownst to Limbaugh, Soros is one of the investors in the Rams buyout bid.

      • BOE says:

        Jeff thank you. I wrote something earlier on Soros. This is so big..much bigger than most of us kind,trusting American people can imagine. This has been in the works for many years to get Obama elected president. Soros is God-less,soul less and will burn in hell one day. He must be stopped. People need to read about him.John Kerry and his wife are also invovled,as is Rockafeller. Plz google or Bing George Soros, the Tide Foundation, Seiu,Acorn,. It will give a list of contributions. Soros,the Kerry`s of Heinz have billions behind this movement.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Sheldon Adelson, net worth 26.3 Billion. Claim to fame. Biggest Republican donor. Next claim to fame, tried to buy Israel. Next claim to fame, tried to buy a candidate. What to try and buy next???

      • ccg says:

        Eyes, you said “tried to buy”. So he obviously did not do it. Which means the proper protocol worked.
        You seem to intimate that if the Rep. Party did it then it’s all right for the Dem. Party to do it too.
        Hmm, what’s wrong with this picture???

      • eyeswideopen says:

        CCG, you missed the point, human’s are not for sale. Because he wasn’t successful that makes it ok to try and influence elections? Oh, that’s right, he is a Republicans and they have a different set of morals don’t they? You are too funny.

      • Dee D says:

        Beberoni – We best have a spackling of all parties in control, so each can keep an eye on the other. A one party Government is a dangerous situation for all concerned.

      • ccg says:

        D.D. and that is what the problem is right now. We practically have a one party system.

      • Dee D says:

        ccg – Just a flip flop of the ones who were in control for the last 15 to 20 years.

      • Beberoni says:

        Oh, now you speak the truth. This democrat President with a democrat congress, is selling this country down the road. Wait until you get this socialized health care you wankers want. Watch your premiums go up and up. Its gonna really cost you. These guys think they can do whatever they want, and piss on America. Yeah, I got a problem with the left running things, because they are indeed, dangerous. For they do not know what they are doing.

      • ccg says:

        I wrote a letter to the Rep. National Committee.
        I was complaining to them that even when we did have the majority, they bowed down to the Democrats wishes. They were wimps. They acted like The Dems had something on them. They are flatly too nice to the Dems, and we do not get the same treatment back.
        The Republicans need to keep their commitments when they are in the majority like they are trying to keep them now. it is not good enough for them to talk the talk without walking the walk. They talk big now, I want them to act on it as well when we are in the majority again or have the power to actually have a vote in Congress that means anything.

        Too often we hear them say “We are not going to stoop to the Democrats level.” Well, is their way working? No, we have been left out of everything. So iss time to change tactics.

        The Dem’s keep saying the Rep.’s don’t have anything to offer on the Health Care Debacle. They are not listening.

        Anyway, I wrote a nice long letter with my disappointments addressed.

      • grayhawke says:

        Sirwilliam, I have read the comments and your seems to hit the nail right directly on the head. The president and the liberal lead Congress want to rule. As one who has e-mailed and faxed then carefuloly read the responses of my congressmen and women it apparent they do not care how we feel. When Congress ignores tens of thousands of faxes and e-mails and votes the way they want to they have stopped respresenting and started ruleing.

      • Dee D says:

        Grayhawke: After eight years of the Conservative control in all three houses and Pres. and V. pres. chairs – Nothing can be any worse.

      • gaetano says:

        Well Dee D, its plain to see why you voted for Obama. You were and still are ignorrant as to who was in control of our congress in for the last 8 years.Well for you imformation, the democrats took control in 2006,and did nothing to help the country in those last 2 years of G.W.`s term,except to do everything it could to make the country suffer .This way ,idiots like you that don`t know anything about government, would vote Mr Precious Obama,and put the blame on the Republicans.Thats is one proof of Democrats being stupid.They never really know the truth,and don`t really care.They are followers.They are sheep being led to the slaughter.But ,don`t worry to much,because the repubs. will bail your asses out again.

      • Dee D says:

        Gaetano: You say the Democrats took control and done nothing. Is that why the Republican party pulled the fillabuster? I sat up all night and listened to them and sent an open letter. I also sent a letter to one who while trying to blame the Democrats gave a perfect description of all the Republican party had been guilty of doing.

      • Dee D says:

        gaetano: A few more facts to maybe show you why I am fed up with the Republican party.
        I live in Ohio-
        Bob Taft -Republican Govenor and his co-hort Bob Nye started dipping into the workers comp. money to invest in a illegal coin deal. Taft didn’t even get his wrists slapped while Noe went to prison. No money restored.

        Betty Montgomery – Republican State Auditor and Jim Petro – Republican Attorney General – watchdogs of the public service employees retirement funds were not barking when money was being miss-appropriated from their investments. No one prosecuted and no money returned.

        There was no election nor a special election, but somewhere along the way Montgomery and Petro changed positions – Montgomery was the Republican Attorney General working in Columbus while Petro was the Republican State Auditor working out of Cinn.
        Sorry fellow, but when I think any party member has so strong of a foothold they can make or change the rules as they go for whatever reason without putting it to a vote – that is not my form of Democracy by the people or for the people.

        Also, why does every Republican who gets in office wants to bankrupt the SS program? Bush Jr. tried to privatize it. He was just one of a few more that has tried this. Under Republican guidance many more groups are added to the SS roles.
        Why is it, the representatives of the Republican party are always trying to dip in to the little peoples successful programs? Could it be because maybe a Democrat was successful in implementing programs for the people and they just can not accept the fact that the programs were not of their making? They really should try working for our citizens and our country instead of big business, pharmaceuticals and money making Insurance Company’s profits over the needs of the citizens while lining their pockets with the big bucks in the process.
        They may be able to regain a little respect if they are willing to do a job they were elected to do. But again that is doubtful because the numbers are increasing for party members to be loyal to a party line instead of caring for our country and her citizens.

        But the final blow as to my feelings for the Republican party came in 2000 when I realized their control was so great on the non thinking majority that only the votes they wanted to be considered were counted and thinking citizens need not cast a vote because it became provisional and filed in the round file. The courts done the job for us.

        You are right – I know nothing about Government and my friend I think you know even less and you do not follow the action because you have others do your thinking for you.

        AND YES WE WILL ALL SEE THE RESULTS IN THE END AND THE TRUTH WILL BE KNOWN ON JUDGEMENT DAY.

      • Beberoni says:

        You are an ungrateful ditz, Dee Ditz. What did Bush do? Lets rewind the tape. He freed a nation of millions. He took the fight to an enemy that kept punching us in the nose, and made us strong again, even making them fear us. He kept us safe for 8 years. He had the stock market at an all time high. He had employment at an all time high. He had unemployement at an alltime low. His last year when everyone in business knew Obama was going to be the next prez, business tightened up their belts to hold on to their cash, because they knew when a democrat got elected, taxes were coming down the pike. They guessed right, and business came to a screeching halt. Now that Obama is in, millions have lost their jobs, with millions more to follow, because this guy and his boys are clowns that are so inexperienced, all they got is the bullshit they used on uneducated people like you to get them elected. A line of bull 10 feet long. They got no plan, no course of action, nothing. Everything they have touched has turned to mud, and they have and continue digging us into a bigger and bigger hole. You are ungrateful for the great things Bush did, and the great shape we were in, until your boys appeared on the scene as victors, then it all went down the drain. Of course, you could place some of the blame on the Republicans for trying to run the 150 year old John McCain for president, when everyone knew people were tired of career politicians. But that is as far as their guilt goes for the economic condition were in. The democrats are behind all of it. They spent the last 4 years of the Bush admin trying to kill the economy, and it finally caught up to them. So try to be thankful for the good things Bush and his admin did, because your not ever going to see good things like that come from the Obamination, because he and his thug cabinet have no experience and no plans at all, and its not getting them anywhere anymore to point the finger at Bush, and after all, that is all they brought to the table to get them elected. Thats the facts, and if you dont like it, oh well.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Bebe, YOU need to shut up and do some reading,. You have no idea how the whole 9/11 attack started, or what was done prior to it. There has been an investigation, you should read it. Freed millions? Killed hundreds of thousands would be more accurate. Didn’t anyone tell you that Iraq wasn’t asking us to declare war on it? You also need to read the history that shows what the deficit was when the admin. was turned over to the Dem’s. A little knowledge would really help you.

      • Beberoni says:

        In response to eyes assertation that Iraq didnt ask us to invade it. Well, Hitler didnt ask for us to stop him either, now did he? Sometimes my dear, you just have to be man enough to step up and do the right thing. Thats all there is do it. Clinton didnt have the cahoonies to do it, but Bush did. God bless him.

      • JeffH says:

        The generic answers to letters and email, supporting everything that the constituents don’t. I’ve experienced the total lack of respect from my representatives, and I have also recieved positive responses from others…specifically addressing my concerns. Boxer, Pelosi and Feinstein have never been specific or even mentioned the issues I wrote them about in their responses. I certainly am being pro-active in the upcominig 2010 election to make sure they never represent California or America again. They are, and always have been, a part of the “Country Club” crowd in politics. They treat their constituents like a door mat!

      • cr747 says:

        JeffH, you can say that again

      • cr747 says:

        Yea eyes, and a little tape over your mouth would help a lot to. WHAT YOU WRITE MAKES MY 9 YEAR OLD GRAN DAUGHTER THINK YOU ARE KIN TO BART SIMPSON. Is that true?

      • Jackie says:

        Jeff,

        You are so correct. They send you form letters telling what they believe and screw what you think. As far as Pelosi goes, I tried to call her office in D.C. and was told she doesn’t take calls from people who are not her constituents. I thought the Speaker of the House was supposed push legislation that was for the countries benefit, not just her constituents. She and her cronies are seriously arrogant.

    • Jim says:

      Eve

      You are delusional.

      • Fred says:

        Jim, have you looked in a mirror? You are deceiving yourself if you buy into this Obama Nation crap.

      • JeffH says:

        Then, there are many more of us that are delusional too. And we won’t even force feed socialism on the rest of the nation.

      • Beberoni says:

        Hey Jim, there is lunatic on the loose. I think I know where he is. Go in your bathroom and look above the sink, and you will see him.

    • Russell EnDean says:

      Impeachment would be proper, but that requires consensus and acts being taken by his colleagues, who seem to be riding the same corrupt horse. Please read the Bill of Rights of the Constitution of the United States. Americans have the Option to form a fourth branch of government, temporarily, and for the sole purpose of removing a corrupt government. When the job is done, the fourth branch dissolves. This is our hope.

    • Beberoni says:

      Very well said Eve. Very truthful. These countries that are aggressive towards us, are even more so now, as they know the democrats to be pacifist appeasers. They know these guys will lie down like a doormat and let them walk all over them, just as Bill Clinton did when he let them bomb us over and over and over again, and did nothing but reach for another cigar and his young intern. Our enemy knows they can walk all over these liberals. Thats why they and the international press hated Bush so much, because he set them straight and laid forth the plans that we werent going to be their patsies anymore, and he punched back. Now our press is just like the international press, all liberal pacifists, and they attacked for 8 years and wrote lie after lie after lie, and many in this very post believe the lies they wrote, because they cite them word for word in here, what Ive read in the papers and seen on ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and MSNBC. They follow blindly. Now these countries seek to walk all over us fully knowing that the pacifist appeasers are in power, and that they are indeed weak. So afraid of what everyone might think about them, instead of doing the right thing. Thank you Mr. Bush for having a set.

    • Don in FL. says:

      I feel I must correct everyone that says Hussien Obama BOWED to the crown Prince, He wasn’t Bowing he (WORDS REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT)

  6. Joel says:

    You don’t get an award for what you might do or to be encouraged; you get an award for an accomplishment. I have yet to see an accomplishment!
    With what we have as an administration, now I’m the one doing the apologizing!

    • Diane Camp says:

      Actually in our currently politically correct American you get an award for showing up. Our schools cannot award excellence as it hurts the feelings of the average. Sports for kids discourage competition because not everyone has the ability or motivation to be the best. So Parents BUY a trophy for everyone on the team and act as tho it’s an award.

      • David says:

        You nailed it!

      • Beberoni says:

        This is true. The liberal left is indoctrinating our children to strive for mediocracy. As you see in life how the left operates, they punish those that are successful, and reward those that fail, like GM and Chyrsler. It probably hurts those UAW boys feelings that Honda, Toyota and Subaru all are making money, but they need billions of bailout money. We cant have them feeling bad now. Geesh. Come on man, gimme a break. The left is out of touch with reality. Give the kid an “A” when he gets it all right, and give the kid an “F” when he fails. It is what it is, quit hiding behind rose colored glasses, and building a future of mediocre Americans. That is what you guys are doing. Question is, in 20 to 30 year when no kid will stand up and fight to defend our country, how you whack jobs gonna blame it on Bush? This I have to see.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Is there anything that goes on in this country that you will take responsibility for? Just wondering, if you don’t like your childrens schools why not change them? No, just easier to lay it at the feet of the school teachers and we know there are no Republican school teachers,so therefore the Dems are once again responsible. Smooth move. You don’t take any responsibility for anything, but you want to control everything, is that right?

      • Beberoni says:

        Once again, you speak without knowing what you are talking about, and lies spew forth from your left wing lying mouth. I do not like what our liberal schools have become, so I removed my children thank you very much, and sent them to a Christian school, where they are actually taught right from wrong, that good triumps over evil, that you get rewarded for excellence, and if you fail, you need to try harder, because if the other kid can do it, so can you. So what you said about me not doing anything, shows you dont have a clue pal. And I do actually know school teachers, that if they are a conservative, have to keep their view quiet, lest they face repercussions, as a friend of ours, that taught with them, spoke up on doing what is right, and of backing God and creationism, and the evils of the whole liberal thing, and well, to but it bluntly, he doesnt have a job anymore. Its that way at colleges also. Students get flunked if they profess conservatism, and its all a bunch of liberal crap using their power and influence to spread their agenda. Its not right. Dont force liberalism down peoples throats, and dont force conservatism. Let people be who they are, but if you deny that the whole school systems, high school and college are set up this way, then you are lying, and it effects millions upon millions of people, and its just an evil sad thing that this is done in the name of liberalism. Its wrong, and that is plain to see. But no, you are so wrong lying that I dont do anything about it. I did what was right, but you know as well as I do, that a child should not have to be pulled out of school and sent to a private school, to keep an adult from pushing his or her agenda down their throats, and making them pay if they dont follow suit. Its bullcrap, its nationwide, and if you dont know it, well, your not educated. I do know it, and its wrong.

      • Dee D says:

        Beberoni – What has NCLB done for our schoolchildren? Why hire or bribe Armstrong Williams as a barker to peddle the hype?

      • Beberoni says:

        I dont know either one of these, and not sure I should. School should not be politicalized, but you and I both know, the left a long time ago looked and saw the opportunity to indoctrinate people at a young age to their agenda, and that is what they do. We should have separation of politics and schools. Children should be given an education, not a political indoctrination, telling them how wear a rubber, and that its cool to have 2 dads or 2 moms, and that its ok to have sex at 12 as long as your protected, and just that everything is cool if it make you feel good, because their isnt no God, cause we were formed when a bird pooped on a rock and the sun fermented it and then we stood up and walked. Come on man. Get real.

      • Dee D says:

        Beber – Yep, you need to do some reading.
        After Bush pushed for the NCLB (no child left behind) he cut funding to the schools. He did pay Armstrong Williams to peddle the NCLB, paying him with your tax dollars to try to get him to get his people to buy the concept.
        Check and learn how much money is pumped into private schools where the children are taught that being a Republican is the right way to live.
        Also try to get a copy of the report that tells the mentality of the citizens in the red States. That, my friend tells it all. Most of them are labeled uneducated sheeple.

      • Beberoni says:

        I dont know where you live, but they are spending money where I live like drunken sailors on the schools. One put in an olympic size swimming pool, new football field, and state of the art science center. Another built a brand boys and girls gyms. But see, all this spending, and it goes up year after year, and it does not improve education. We spend far too much on the school systems, and have created a property tax fiasco where people are losing their houses because they cant pay it. The solution to things isnt spending more money, its utilizing the money they spend. Sorry, but these schools didnt need an olympic size pool, and a new boys and girls gyms. Yeah, its nice to have, but not necessary and it doesnt add to the education. Put discipline in the schools, and quit kissing the kids butts, and maybe, just maybe, they might learn something. But when there is no discipline, and the teachers are afraid of the students like they are at so many schools, and the kids dont want to be there and dont want to learn, no amount of money is going to change that. Step one is youve got to get discipline back into the classroom, and the teachers need be be the authority, not the one afraid to do or say anything. Its pretty simple. But as long as we have this double standard that one race is allowed to not have to be disciplined in school, for fear of lawsuits, the education level is never going to change. Ive been there, done that, and seen it and lived it. Facts are facts, but I know what it takes to improve the schools, and believe you me, its not more money. Not at all.

      • libertytrain says:

        beberoni – nice points.

  7. ONTIME says:

    The Newly Selected is a ego driven clown who would not stop and think of consequence or allow himself to give up a prize he admits he did not deserve because his greed and lack of intellect interfered with normal logic. The boy simply has no self control and little experience with motive other than his own, he is a shill that will bend with the wind and will wind up selling us out to the highest bidder, namely the PRC……it has already started and Americans cannot get a grasp on what a criminal is.

  8. Football mom says:

    You said it all! Way to go Liberal Left! Keep losing that credibility And stay dumb. Your reign wont last , socialist liberals! Cant wait to see the fall of Liberal thinking. What goes up comes down!

    • Elaine says:

      I can only pray that you are right. It seems to get worse every day.

      • Beberoni says:

        Oh, she is right. She is correct as one can be. This crap going on now is going to end up being a good thing in the long run, because it has woken up America. We are starting the see the true colors of the left, and even most of their followers arent liking what they see.

  9. Harlan says:

    I know what the definition of insanity is, but has anuone ever considered that we (US) are the last country on the planet doing it right? Freedom wins every time.

  10. EX US PARATROOPER says:

    If Obama had any character, he should have refused the award and told the Nobel Committee to give it to some one who actually deserved it. If he had done that I would have respected him, but of course he didn’t. The same with Senator John Kerry. He threw away his military medals (dubiously earned) at a Vietnam peace protest, but then brags about them and has replacements hanging in his office. He too has no character and I have no respect for him. Character does count in my opinion. For that reason alone (among others)I would not vote for him. We need leaders who have character and moral values. Unfortunately, none seem to be around. I am hoping for change in 2010 and 2012. Lets vote them all out!

    • Medina, Fl. says:

      Thank you Paratrooper for your honor services to our country and its citizens. I agree with you 100% in your post, but remember the Emperors will never renounce to this special gift given to him by “His leftists friends”, since his ego and hunger for power can allowed that to happened. He earned it by siding with the enemies of our great country,trying to pleased those who has itching ears.
      he Emperor had labeled Americans as very arrogant, not letting his friends know, our country had fed the whole world for years and every time there is a tragic event, we are Immediately right in place to help while the rest of the world just keep their wealth. The lying and fear monger spirits had completely possessed him and his cronies in power.
      Almighty God is watching how he is oppressing His children and will soon let lose His Wrath upon all those who are doing so, even though they don’t believe there is a Higher Power who is in control.

    • 101_SARGE says:

      AIRBORNE!!!

    • Russell EnDean says:

      Thank you for your service. Thank you for your wisdom.

    • Beberoni says:

      Hard to believe they gave the guy a purple heart for shooting himself in the arse.

    • eyeswideopen says:

      Let’s see how many ways we can offend other nations. I know you all can come up with many, as you offend the rest of us on a daily basis. The reason we don’t get much cooperation from the rest of the world is, someone called alot of them EVIL DOERS, and accused other of being the AXIS OF EVIL. How to influence friends and get an army together. LMAO> You people are really a laugh minute.

      • Beberoni says:

        Well lets see Einstein. If youve got all these nations, that have professed that we are the evil satan, and that we must die, and that they wont rest until we die, and they will die themselves to make us dead, well, Id pretty much call them evil. And when their motto is “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”, then yes dude, they are an axis of evil. Now if you want to play all kissy face with them, and put on your pajama’s and have a slumber party with them, dude, by all means, have at it man. But while your kissing up to them, take heed my words. THEY WANT YOU DEAD JUST AS MUCH AS THEY WANT ME DEAD. They dont care if you want to play nice with them. They dont care if you give them stuff. They dont care if you give them special rights. THEY WANT YOU DEAD. And its not because of Bush. They felt this way when they were bombing us right and left when Clinton was president. Dude, seriously, did you sleep through those 8 years. My God man, how many people do they have to kill before you understand, THEY WANT YOU DEAD. Please dude, wake up. Its a nation of pacifists like you that keep these killers coming back for more.

      • Dennis says:

        Yes, you are exactly correct!
        To add to that statement… this admin. is aware of the 35 Islamic Muslim training camps right here in this country, right now. With only ONE intention …to destoy America. Peace is IMPOSSIBLE…. so people need to wise up!

      • Beberoni says:

        Exactly. And our schools and government wants us to practice tolerance towards them, while they are planning our demise, while at the same time, kicking the name Jesus Christ out of everywhere, because they say it may offend some. Well Im offended by the name Mohammed, and I dont see any ban on it. This double standard crap does no good. And I hold this thing against Mr. Bush who I liked a lot, in that he kept saying they are a peaceful religion. Bull Crap. Their very tenant of their religion says if we dont think like they do, we are infidels and must be killed. Sorry, Jesus Christ is alive and well, and wants all you muslims to come to him, for eternal life in heaven. Mohammed is dead and buried in the ground, and if you dont believe me, dig up his grave and observe the body that rotted there. My God never underwent this rot. He rose from the grave, and is alive. That is the difference. My Jesus wants you alive, and to come to Him. Your book says for you to kill me. Big Difference.

  11. GrumpyOldCodger says:

    When I heard the “news” as I was driving, I honestly thought it was a spoof for the first 20 minutes and then realized the joke was real.

    Another link in “CHAINS we can believe in”.

    • libertytrain says:

      I too, thought the people telling me the story were joking and I laughed out loud – It is sad to see the Nobel Prize continuously losing it’s grand meaning. Or maybe you don’t have to do anything anymore, just think about doing something -

  12. Earl, Queens, NY says:

    What kind of an outfit is this Nobel committee? What is their criteria for awarding prizes? What has BHO achieved to get the peace prize? He’s the antithesis of Reagan and Bush, who liberated 100s of millions of people worldwide. BHO doesn’t appreciate the USA. He badmouths and apologizes for us worldwide. According to Rushlimbaugh.com (10/9/09), BHO is also getting the Nobel economic prize. What for? Maybe for lying? I.e., lying about millions of jobs saved or created by that fake $787 billion stimulus/porkulus bill, when in reality millions of jobs have been lost since BHO took office. What a joke!! BHO’s done more economic damage to this country in 8 months than any past president in 4 or 8 years!! What’s next? Maybe BHO will get the Nobel speech prize for his ability to speak without a teleprompter!! Insane, insane, insane!!

    • Beberoni says:

      This so called Nobel Peace Prize, is given by the world. And anybody that knows the truth about anything, knows that the world is Satan’s playground, as written in the good book, The Bible. It is the end times, where it talks about there being more floods, and more earthquakes and destruction, and it is written that right will become wrong and wrong will become right. You dont have to be a Christian like me, but there is no way anyone who seeks reality and truth can change the fact that the things I just stated are absolutely true. We are having more and more floods, and more and more fires and earthquakes and destruction and wars going on. Its all Scriptural, and its all happening. Could be tomorrow, could be 100 years, could be 1000 years, but all signs are showing it is happening, especially all these things that are wrong becoming right. This cat getting a Nobel Peace Prize, voted on 2 weeks after being elected when he for one hadnt done anything, for two, hadnt announced any plans to do anything, and for three, had no ideas of what to even do, and still doesnt, but they voted him the award for what? Nothing. He did nothing to deserve it. Sorry, whether you like him or not, democrat or republican, the guy didnt do a doggone thing to even get considered to be nominated for this thing. Its just all wrong. But not surprising. A lot more crap like this is to come, just wait and see. Get your eyes and ears opened people, and you will see it more and more.

    • Smilee says:

      The Nobel awards were set up by Alfre Nobel in his last will and testament and he set up the criteria. Those familiar with the will say this award to BO is consistent to his wishes and that is the only test that matters all who disagree are using their own criteria and that is totally irrelevant in is only their opinion, nothing else. Chip of course has long made it clear he despises Obama and this post of his only tends to reinforce that and your posts makes it appear you do to. Obama did not get the price for economics as Rush said he would and as usual Rush was wrong.

      What kind of an outfit is this Nobel committee? What is their criteria for awarding prizes? What has BHO achieved to get the peace prize? He’s the antithesis of Reagan and Bush, who liberated 100s of millions of people worldwide. BHO doesn’t appreciate the USA. He badmouths and apologizes for us worldwide. According to Rushlimbaugh.com (10/9/09), BHO is also getting the Nobel economic prize. What for? Maybe for lying? I.e., lying about millions of jobs saved or created by that fake $787 billion stimulus/porkulus bill, when in reality millions of jobs have been lost since BHO took office. What a joke!! BHO’s done more economic damage to this country in 8 months than any past president in 4 or 8 years!! What’s next? Maybe BHO will get the Nobel speech prize for his ability to speak without a teleprompter!! Insane, insane, insane!!

      • Beberoni says:

        It was not set up to be given to someone undeserving, just to pin a barb on another. That is what is going on here, and nothing else. A pure and utter travesty.

      • Smilee says:

        I guess you do not believe n a persons last will and testament should be respected and followed, most people believe it should be, you like most conservatives always wish to impose your own will on others as you have done here

      • Don in FL. says:

        Where did you read this will, you are full of horse(WORDS REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT)

      • Smilee says:

        There are several books on him and the authors all quote his criteria and according to them Obama’s receiving it meets that criteria.. I see they removed some of you words and that is rare so must have been something really terrible. Makes one believe your response is based oh hate and not facts, hatred causes people to turn their hatred into facts only they can believe as they are false facts.

      • JeffH says:

        Smilee, you really should get some help, like a lot of the liberal left, you use the “H” word way too much. If someone disagrees with the NPP going to Obama, that disagreement is not necessarily based on hate. I think you should apologise!

      • Beberoni says:

        Aint got nothing to do with that, or conservatism. You see, Id give Kennedy one when he make the Russians get their missiles out of Cuba. Id given Nixon one for getting us out of Vietnam. Id given Bush one for freeing Iraq and saving Kuwait. Id agree to Carter having his if it was for his work with Habitat for Humanity and all the good coming from it. But Barrack Obama? Again, now pay attention. At the 2 week mark of his presidency, he had done nothing, divulged nothing, discussed nothing, explored nothing. They allready had their vote in for him. So, sorry, based on the facts, I have to say – for what? Now keep in mind, it cant be given for what they thought he might do, or what they thought he might be capable of doing. No, it is for something allready accomplished. So if your interested in facts, there it is man. The fix is in, the agenda is filled, and anybody that refutes that either for one, cant tell the truth or dislikes the truth, or two, is a bald faced liar that has no interest in the truth. Hey, whose to say he might do something great down the line, Im a realist, and though I personally dont care for the guy, it could happen. I doubt it, but realistically it could happen. But as for having allready done something at the two week mark of his presidency, to be voted this, no no man, somebody was pulling some crap to fit an agenda. Thats all there is to it.

      • Beberoni says:

        This is not what his last will says. You made this up. Democrat.

      • Beberoni says:

        If you want to put it that way, then I would say, that I hate to see ones last will and testament be prostituted in this way. This is a perversion of Mr. Nobles last will and testament, to say the least. Im all for protecting his last will and testament, but it seems some would rather use it for political purposes, and that is wrong as can be. Shame on them, and shame on you for thinking its ok just because your on the left with him. Shame on you. He doesnt deserve it and you know it.

      • JeffH says:

        Smilee, do a search on the web for ALFRED NOBEL’S LAST WILL. You will then find out you have been preaching the wrong sermon.

        Oh, I decided to save you the search…here it is, in part:
        “The whole of my remaining realizable estate shall be dealt with in the following way: the capital, invested in safe securities by my executors, shall constitute a fund, the interest on which shall be annually distributed in the form of prizes to those who, during the preceding year, shall have conferred the greatest benefit on mankind.

        just so you know I’m not putting you on, here is the link.
        http://nobelprize.org/alfred_nobel/will/short_testamente.html

  13. ImpeachObama says:

    This so-called “Peace Prize” has had absolutely no legitimacy since the time it was awarded to a scumbag terrorist named Yasser Arafat!!!!!

  14. Norm says:

    There’s an Aesop fable about sour grapes that I’d suggest some of you folks read.

    It is a great honor to get a Nobel Peace Prize.

    So far I’ve heard that Obama wasn’t a citizen, that he never got a law degree(with honors from Harvard),that created the economic crisis, that he’s a communist, facist, socialist etc., and is essentially responsible for every bad thing that has happened in the world in the last fifty years.
    Look at the facts idiots!

    • Jamal says:

      You need to look at the facts my little welfare friend

      • Norm says:

        I’ve never had need for public assistance and I consider myself to be fortunate.

      • John says:

        I sure as hell don’t get it from MSNBC. Where do you get your BS from?
        Incidentally, I was just agreeing with your proposition of Obama.

      • Norm says:

        John
        I listen to/watch msmbc, cnn, nbc,abc,cbs,fox, Hannity, Rush and everbody except Glenn Beck. Then I weigh all the data. Msnbc surely has a left slant, but guys like Rush and Hannity are liars and borderline traitors. Great americans – what a joke. Glenn Beck is mentally ill.

      • Holly says:

        Norm,
        Take 2 aspirin (better yet take the whole bottle, and call the Doctor in the morning.

    • John says:

      Norm, we’ve looked at the facts and the facts conclude that Obama is an idiot.

      • Jim says:

        You obviously have not looked at the facts. If you disagree and have an argument that’s something, but if you call him an idiot, you lose all credibility. Next we’ll hear the talking points….teleprompter…arorn…and the absurdity of calling him a fascist and a communist at the same time. It’s time you people grew up.

      • John says:

        Ok he’s a fascist communist too. Thanks for reminding me. As I’ve stated before there’s just too much dirt on this guy, you literally need a journal to keep track of all his BS and ineptness.

      • Norm says:

        Where exactly do you get all your “dirt”? Hate radio?
        Incidentally, it’s hard to be both a left wing communist and right wing fachist at the same time.

      • Thurman Marcum says:

        John,

        Obama can’t be both.Communism is on the extreme left and fascism on the extreme right.I always said,etremeism on the right or left isn’t a good thing.

      • Beberoni says:

        In reply to Norm. Here is where I get my dirt on him. 1. Rezko. 2. Rev.Wright. 3. Bill Ayres. 4. Rham Emmanuel. Any questions?

      • JeffH says:

        …and I’ll throw Soros into the frey.
        How do you guys and gals feel now that the Obamanation train is losing passengers faster than a burning boardinghouse?

      • cr747 says:

        YOU GUY’S MUST SLEEP 24/7. WAKE UP TO THE REAL WORLD, WASHINGTON IS FULL OF JOKES. WE DON’T HAVE A PRESIDENT AND MOST OF THE CONGRESS IS EATING OUT OF THE SAME TROUGH.
        THANK GOD FOR THE ONES THAT STAND BEHIND US. I AM A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT, BUT YOU CAN BET YOUR REAR I DIDN’T VOTE FOR ANY THIS TIME.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        John, what time frame did you attend Harvard? Oh, didn’t go there? Yale? Princeton?. You can slander your President all you want, however idiots don’t graduate from Harvard, so maybe it is you who is lacking in knowledge.

      • Dennis says:

        No, idiots don’t GRADUATE Harvard, Princeton, or Yale…
        They just PAY for it!!!

      • gaetano says:

        To you mr. Eyes wide open.If your eyes would open just a little maybe you would know that we don`t even know if Obama ever went to college. Show me the proof! Oh ,Now where did my transcrips go,and where is my applicaion,? Oh , now I remember . I had to bury them so no one would know where I really come from???????

      • Michael J. says:

        The eyes may be wide open, but they are sportin coke bottle contact lenses. (ouch, that sounds painful)

      • DaveH says:

        Idiots do spend 3-4 times their annual revenues.

      • Beberoni says:

        Anyone that graduates from Harvard, one, is some little rich snob, and two, they really do think of themselves as better than the rest of us. I wouldnt hire one of them if I had to, because I know of the liberal think tank they were exposed to while there, and now they are dangerous. They think themselves smart, but no common sense, or connection with common man. Harvards sucks. You can have it.

      • Normal Guy says:

        You really are an envious hateful moron. My guess lots of failures that you have to blame on someone. We should all be uneducated otherwise we are socialists…

        You are painfully ignorant.

      • libertytrain says:

        Normal Guy – Give me food for thought – give me a reason to think that what you believe has credence – this does nothing to promote who you are -

      • Michael J. says:

        Normal Guy, You confuse education with indoctrination. Being a victim without even knowing it must truly be painful.

      • Jackie says:

        That’s correct, idiots don’t go to harvard, Yale, Princeton. So I guess all those who called George W. Bush an idiot or moron and worse were wrong because he graduated from Yale. I don’t care if he only graduated with a C average, because a C average at Yale is like and A++ at other colleges.

      • Beberoni says:

        Norm is an Idiot, and a Pathetic liar. I have listened for years to Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and Glenn Beck, and the one constant has been, I have never, and I mean never ever caught them in a lie. Rush is totally biased, I will give you that, but the man speaks the truth when he opens his mouth. Hannity and Beck will lambast the republicans if they do something wrong, always have and always will. But they always tell the truth, and if Norm cant see that, then the truth is not in him. Something is wrong with Norms medula oblangata

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Gotta love that Mormon, Glenn Beck, he is really taking you all down the apocalptic path with frightening speed. Buckley, oh Buckley where art thou?

      • Beberoni says:

        So, your racism is against the Mormon, eh. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. What did Glen do to you, speak on something that exposed to yourself that your night right, and now you hate him? The guy is a genius. He always researches what he says, and knows that of which he speaks. He doesnt go off half cocked, like say, your Obama did when that college professor was arrested and without so much as thinking or investigating it, he pulled the race card out and shot off his mouth, then looked like a fool and had to apologize. Man oh man, you and I both know had that been a Republican, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN and MSNBC would still be talking about it. But once again, the liberal wagon train circled and left and gave him a free pass. Glen Beck is very smart. He doenst go off half cocked. What he speaks is the honest to God’s truth, and if you dont like that, then you need to talk to God and get yourself straightened out young lady. The truth will set you free.

      • Normal Guy says:

        BEBE

        How would you know. You have no education so whatever Beck tells you must be true. Get a little education and maybe you will be able to distinguish between ignorance and fact. Oh I forgot, you can’t make it through school.

      • Beberoni says:

        Hey Normal Guy, dont even try to lock IQ’s with me. You will lose so bad. I know that your so bright your mom calls you son, but youll have that. Ive got more brains in my little finger that you have in your head, so dont try to take on my intelligence. It would be like you bringing a knife to a gun fight. Loser. Now go back to school and get your diploma. I know 5th grade was the best 4 years of your life, but hey, its time to move on.

    • Michael J. says:

      Norm, Aesop is a good source indeed. However, it is “A wolf in sheeps clothing” that is far more appropriate in Obama’s case. The moral to be absorbed in this Aesop fable is that frauds and liars are always discovered eventually.
      Nobel prizes are a joke. Take off the Stevie Wonder sunglasses and even you might see.

      • Norm says:

        Michael J
        What exactly did this wolf do to upset you? Try using facts instead of echoing the hate mongers.

      • Beberoni says:

        Come on man. Now Norm, you like him, because he is a liberal lefty like you. Ok. I get it. Thats cool, your entitled to your opinion, and I fully support you in that. But as far as doing anything to get this prize, which was voted to him 2 weeks after the election, before he did anything, said anything, divulged any ideas. Come on man. The fix is in. You really cant see that? And you really think he deserves it just because he’s “your guy”. Not right Norm. I used to really like Gerald Ford. Heck of a nice guy, heck of a good guy, family man, smart man. Never did nothing to win a Nobel peace prize, and if they had gave him one, I would ask the same question I ask now, for what?

      • JeffH says:

        Questions, always questions. Hate mongers? I think I have heard that term used before.
        Norm, why don’t YOU tell us all of the good things he has done for America and the American people. Use all of the room you want, afterall, it is an open discussion.

      • Todd says:

        Well for one, he lied about being a wolf…..

      • Dennis says:

        LMAO Thats to funny :0)

      • Michael J. says:

        Norm, So you want a list of things Obama has done or is doing that I don’t like, heh? Well, life’s too short and listing all Obama’s dweebles would take the rest of mine and probably crash this server.
        So here’s a question for you instead. Why is it that when your college professor let it be known that he liked Chairman Mao and little boys you continued to attend classes? I’ve heard that you liberals sometimes get a tingly feeling down your leg when thinking of someone you emulate. Was that it?

      • Beberoni says:

        Ive got time to list the good things Obama has done. 1. Nothing. End of story. Thank you.

      • DaveH says:

        Michael,
        Come on man. You’re being a little hard on Obama. After all, he is a lawyer, so how could you be so hateful as to expect honesty? You really need to get in line and admire Obama. After all he is our elected president. I know he equivocated regularly during his campaign. But you know what? He is going to help millions with Billions of other peoples’ money. You need to quit being a racist, and act like a faithful slave instead of being a whiner.

      • April says:

        Oh yeah, we’ll just bow to the big O so he and his cronies and devout media can just kick us in the head!

      • Beberoni says:

        Thats right. Just recognize that there are a lot of folks out there, that dont want to have to work, that need your money to survive, so just give your hard earned cash to Barack, so then he can redistribute it to those who dont deserve it and dont want to have to work for it. Whats wrong with that? Help a brother out will ya?

    • Beberoni says:

      I for one, do not ever want to be in the same award area of a mass murdering terrorist like Yasser Arafat. If he got one, its totally worthless. Also Normy, take a little consideration into who these cats are that are giving it out. All anti Americans. They hate us. Whats that tell you about your boy getting one from them? Yeah, its kind of like that.

      • JeffH says:

        I think they are believers in socialism. Ya think?

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Jeff, don’t go the socialism route, everytime you do, you make me have to go there too.

      • JeffH says:

        Stay outa my business and I will stay outa yours!

      • DaveH says:

        Eyes,
        For Jeff to go the socialist route would be a change. For you, it is a familiar road.

      • ccg says:

        The way things are going the whole country is going with you. That ought to make you very happy.

      • Beberoni says:

        Eyes, nobody made you go there. Youve been there, and you moved their of your own free will. You want the government to control every aspect of your life. You want them to give you everything. You want them to tell you what to do and when to do it. Hey, I know, it takes away your having to think, and having to prepare, and having to work and worry about things. Just let the government grow and take care of everything, so we can fall like the Soviet Union did.

      • cr747 says:

        Eyeswideshut How do you get there,? Do you have one of them see an eye poodles or do you use a stick.

    • Todd says:

      It use to be a great honor to get a Nobel Peace Prize – if it is earned. If not,it means nothing.

      There are some people that are anti-Obama about everything no matter what the facts are. But there are more facts against him than there are for him.

      Fact: He is a U.S. citizen based on multiple public record documents.

      Fact: He did not create the economic crisis, but is fast turning the crisis into a catastrophe.

      Fact: Fascism is defined as a system of one party government characterized by rigid-one party dictatorship, forcible suppression of opposition and private economic enterprise under centralized government control. – Sounds pretty accurate to the tendencies of his administration.

      Fact: Socialism is defined as a step between capitalism and communism in which the ownership and operation of the means of production is taken out of the hands of private individuals. “Spread the Wealth” – again, it sounds pretty accurate to the tendencies of his administration. I wouldn’t say he’s communist – yet….

      Is he responsible for every bad thing? No. However, he has made nothing better and has made a very bad situation much, much worse.

      Just some facts for you….

      • eyeswideopen says:

        People, other than you, decided that he deserved it. Like it or not. Too bad for you. Go to your bedroom and cry. The rest of the world could give two craps about the people in this country who disparage their own President. They probably feel sorry for the rest of us, who act as patriots and support a new President, in the effort to clean up the humongous pile of elephant crap left behind by those who cut taxes while starting two wars leaving our troops without decent body armor, passed a Medicare bill to the tune of 1.1 trillion dollars, hijacked our privacy rights, while committing torture and participating in so much corruption that the list of guilty is so long it takes 5 minutes to type. For the first time in history, the world looks at our citizens like you and is glad they aren’t Americans.

      • Todd says:

        For someone with “eyeswideopen” it appears that you couldn’t find your butt with your own two hands. I’ve done more to deserve the moniker of “American” than simply being born on American soil. I’ve fought for this great country, bled for it, killed for it, and although I didn’t die, I showed up for the opportunity to on many occasions. The America that I represent is responsible for many of the European countries being free today. We sacrificed for the future of our children and our children’s children, while morons like you wept for the enemy. Enemies that killed my uncle at Pearl Harbor and my fellow brothers at the Battle of the Bulge, I only wish I had been able to send more of those enemies to Hell. You call me un-American for disagreeing with the President? That’s exactly what you brain dead liberals always say when someone disagrees with you. But in America, we have the right to disagree, and as far as I’m concerned, if you’d like to take that right away, feel free to pick up a weapon and stand with the enemy. Yes, I disparage this President just like he has disparaged my country. He apologizes to the world and coddles dictators as if he speaks on behalf of real Americans. I have no respect for him because he hasn’t earned it. You think your a patriot because you follow his leadership? You’re just a lemming. People like you talk about todays interrogation methods as torture. You have no idea what torture is. I can tell you about what real torture is, but it would probably be too much for your fragile, panty waste mind. And as far as other countries? I couldn’t give two craps for what they think. Or you either for that matter.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Todd, Good, call your President a Facist, Socialist, and Communist, oh that’s right you just inferred that didn’t you. You don’t have the nerve to come right out and state your true beliefs. But it is evident that you are biased, as you read what Nobel Prize winner Paul Krugman (economics) had to say about the financial crisis and how Obama has held this country together while facing a depression. You are never going to give Obama credit for anything, so why try and hide behind a facade?

      • ccg says:

        Todd, THIS WAS A GREAT REPLY.
        Thank you for your service.

      • Todd says:

        Responding to eyeswideopened:

        I don’t think my previous statements were “inferred”. They were pretty obvious. But for the benefit of the rest of you slack jawed, traitorous cowards, I’ll spell it out for you. First of all, he’s not my president. He’s just the man who happens to hold the office right now. A real president could make decisions. Hell, he’s got a majority House and Senate and can’t even get his own party to get anything done. He did nothing as a Senator either. The very definition of fascism describes the M.O. of his administration, so I guess he is a fascist (which is the correct spelling by the way – but I guess education wasn’t your thing). He has also shown a socialist agenda, which would make him a socialist. I never said he was a communist (but you don’t really pay attention do you?). Yes I am biased. Being biased simply means that you lean towards a certain way of thinking. I lean towards things like duty, honor, morality, accountability, and doing the right thing instead of what’s easy. As far as Krugman is concerned, He’s just another liberal nut like yourself. Of course he backs Obama because they have the same twisted mind. He writes for the New York Times which everyone knows has no credibility. He even calls himself a liberal who writes about income distribution (socialism)with titles like “The Conscience of a Liberal”. I’ve breifly read some of his stuff and he’s just another nut like you. Do you think I’m impressed by any of the acolades given him by the rest of you loons? I’ll give Obama credit for doing something – when he actually does.

      • Victor says:

        Poor old Todd, he does not seem to be able at his age where on the continent of America he was born, although I take it he means the US of Americe. or it may be he was born in Chile, whose people are also ‘American’.
        Although the aid from the US was of a great help to the European people fighting facsism during WW2, a help that will never be forgotten, the US troops did not win the war, the helped to win the war.
        I should point out that the battle of the bulge in WW2 was only feasable because of the black market in petrol being sold at US fuel dumps, that the US German speaking troops fighting for Hitler bought and took across the front back to the German lines to fuel the tanks and troop carriers that allowed the German advance to commence. Luckily the US troops gallantly did stop the attack, even though these same US Germans threw the Allied troops into confusion by dressing in US uniforms and pretending to be US troops.
        In the Pacific fighting in WW2 there were four British aircraft carriers plus other capital ships in the fighting. It was thanks to the British aircraft carriers with their armour plated decks that saved the US fighter pilots lives as they had to land back on the British aircraft cariers. The Kamakazi fighters found the wooden decks of the US carriers an easy and vulnerable target. There were of course New Zealand and Australian ships, aircraft etc fighting in the Pacific, but of course the US seem to have forgoten all this.
        If the gentleman wishes to blow his trumpet, at least get the right music first.
        Hollywood should stop making films indicating that the US military wins everything without help from anybody. After all they have never ever fought a war on their own. Starting with their war of independance through to Afghanistan. and that includes their attack on that miniscule island of Granada where 1200 medals were won for gallantry ‘saving’ six US students who wondered what on earth the US military along with troops from many other countries were doing.
        The US has no need to fabricate stories about imaginary bravery, there have been thousands of outstandingly brave US military stories that need to be told, so do not belittle other people, it is unnecessary, immature and silly.

      • Jackie says:

        Thank God for people like you Todd who put their life on the line for freedom. Eyeswideopen thinks it is not American to disagree with or not respect your president, well I guess that means that all of the Bush hate mongers are un-american also.

      • Beberoni says:

        Eyes, just so youll know. These other people that decided it, are you aware that they are just 4 guys from Norway? 4 die hard left wing liberals from Norway. 4 anti American guys from Norway? 4 United States of America haters from Norway. And you want us to hold them in high esteem that they decided to slap the US in the face and present this un-earned award to a guy who did nothing? Right Eyes. Medic, get the jacket out and prepare the rubber room. Eyes is failing quick.

      • cr747 says:

        I believe O Bam-Bam and the Democrazy’s just took the senior citizens cost of living increase away from them for next year. Why don’t he give what he didn’t deserve and help the senior citizens on their social secutity?

      • cr747 says:

        Talk about torture, eyes, you should have seen some of the soldiers that came out of Vietnam camps and prisons. You couldn’t have stood it. I did air cover while they where being evacuated, and got to see some of them at base. God bless those guys, even today I still see them. And the worst problem is you could care less what these boys fighting now are going through. I was fortunate compared to many of them.

      • Beberoni says:

        Yeah, and do you know who those other people were? Like 4 or 5 left wing liberal anti-American so called know it alls in Norway. Yeah, and you want to take stock in these guys knowing what is up? Gimme a break. You gotta have more than that if you want to be taken seriously. Come on, bring something legit to the table please.

    • ccg says:

      It’s a great honor when you deserve it. It is an embarrassment and a shame when you don’t. He didn’t.!!!

    • Don in FL. says:

      Again IDIOT Why did he have his records at Havard sealed. I’ll tell you, 2 reasons. 1. He applied for free tuition as an imigrant fron Indinesia and 2. He didn’t graduate with honors

    • Victor says:

      I agree with Norm. When are the US citizens going to realise that it is the Presidential Office that gets the respect, not the person. Reading all the whining on this site makes me relise why the rest of the world dislikes or even hates the US and its selfish people. The US military did not win the Vietnam war, they lost it. The US is in terminal decline if you people did not realise it. You bleet on like a lot of sheep about about how wonderful everything is in the US. Afghanistan is a lost cause, first the British backed out of there many years ago, the Russians with 200,000 troops there found the only way out was to get out and pull up the drawbridge. In the end the US will have to do the same. After all you went in to sort out Osama Ben Lardo, one of your own trained terrorists, which failed. Pakistan created the Taliban, so now you support and praise that country.
      The time has come to give the blessings of a happy life to the world. How rich and wonderful your country ought to be. You are spending more on your military than the rest of the WORLD put together, surely this must mean something to you. Stop bleating the Christian Lord’s prayer while killing all and sundry.
      Wake up, peace is better than war. Support each other and stop whining.
      Victor.

      • ccg says:

        Victor, the only problem is Obama does not respect the office of the Presidency himself. Neither does he like the United States.
        From the way you talk you are not from the United States, so you don’t comprehend that over here we have the freedom to speak out and say what is on our mind. Obama is trying to take that away from us. We are fighting back, and we will always fight back.

      • Victor says:

        In answer ccg. No I am not an American, because America is not a country, it is one of seven continents of the world. Neither am I a member of the USA, just one of the many countries of America.
        There are many countries in this world that have free speech, many of them have had this right far longer than the USA.
        Free speech carries with it great responsibilities. One of which is a person cannot stand up in crowded theatre and shout FIRE. Like all personal rights and freedoms, they have to be defended by every legal means possible. As a student of history, I have noticed that the greatest danger to these rights comes from the extreme right in a country, after all it was from these few powerful people that the said freedoms were gained.
        Please do not mix up the ideals of communism with those of marxism, wcich of course were jewish. If you look up the religion of your own problems, such as Soros and the people who destroyed our industries, you will find they are East European Ashkanasy Jews, the ones who now appear to determine your countries policies. Look up who was the first person that Obama appointed after gaining the White House. Who were the ‘asset strippers’ of your industies, and those of Europe.
        It is the background people behind a country’s leader who pull the strings to make the puppet bounce, without those people the leader is just a King without clothes.
        When WW2 was over, there were over 5,000 jews still freely living and working in Berlin alone. Even Eva Braun’s dentist was an Ahkanasy jew.
        So maybe you should look inside your own country for your solutions.

      • April says:

        We still broke the back bone of communism in Nam. IT WAS NOT IN VAIN.

      • Victor says:

        April, you did not break the back of communism in Vietnam. the people of Vietnam WON the war. just go back to the film of people on the roof of the US embassy in Vietnam. Awful and shameful.
        It was good old Gorbachov who at last had the brains and power to relise that a country cannot pay for unlimited military spending and give its people an improved living.
        A country that allows the military to control things in the end will self defeat. Just read what your own President Eisenower wrote about this subject, he was absolutely correct.

      • ccg says:

        Victor,
        Breaking the Back of something does not mean killing it, it means severely wounding it. Which we did.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Yes, it was in Vain. You need to do some research.

      • ccg says:

        Victor,
        If you will notice I did not ask you if you were an American. I asked you if you are from the United States.

        I agree that we do not need EXTREME right, nor do we need EXTREME left either, which by the way is what we have in this country right now. Extreme/radical anything is not good.

        What you are saying about Soros and Obama goes right along with the line of what we conservatives are saying. Yet you said you agree with Norm who is FOR all of this.

        We appreciate your input though, as many times someone from the outside can look in and see things more clearly. However to see clearly you also must see with understanding.

      • Victor says:

        hello ccg. I remember when Viet Nam was French Indo China, and what a mess the French Colonial srvice made of it. But they did leave the leaders of South Vietnam (who were of the Catholic religion)in charge. When Kennedy visited the Pope in Rome, the Pope asked him to support the leaders of South Viet Nam, which he did in a limited way. But the people of Vietnam wanted no more foreign troops anywhere on their soil, which is understandable. The Vietnamese people were not communists, but China supported them during this period, claiming the people of Vietnam as communists. America was not fighting communists, they were fighting the ordinary people of Vietnam and the American military suppliers were making a grand fortune. Every time a shell or bullet is fired, the old Swedish firm of Nobel explosives took their cut. The firm of Alfred Nobel made such a fortune from their smokeless explosives that poor old Alfred became embarrased, and tried to ease his guilty conscience by giving away via the Nobel prize a great deal of his fortune. But the money still keeps pouring in while ever people shoot at each other. Before Nobel the armies firing at each other had to stop after a short time because the smoke from the guns and rifles obscured the battlefield. Nobel’s money comes from the companies manufacturing the ammunition, not the military. So if world pece ever does break out, the Nobel company will lose its income.
        Maybe we should all go back to ammunition that gives off smoke.
        The various Nobel prizes have to be given out regardless, if two people win, they share the prize, if nobody has achieved success in their field, the prize will be given to anybody instead of them saying that nobody was outstanding this year. I understand that along with the medal the recipient gets over $50,000 per year for life, so it’s well worth getting. Just shows the money going in to the Nobel ammunition company.
        Sorry for the long windedness.

      • libertytrain says:

        Thanks, that was a most enjoyable comment read -

      • Beberoni says:

        You really piss me off Victor. How dare you slap our military guys in the face yet again. You sir, are in error. Our military did not lose the Vietnam war. I repeat, OUR MILITARY DID NOT LOSE THE VIETNAM WAR. If your interested in facts and history at all, the Vietnam war, was started by JFK, who died and didnt have a chance to do whatever it is he intended to do. Lyndon Johnson excalated this war, and him and his democratic cronies made billions of dollars, and no intentions of winning this war, as the democrats dont know how to do these things. But they did cause an awful lot of young men to die unnecessarily, and they sure did make an awful lot of money. It took Nixon, a Republican to listen to the people and get us out of there. It was never a war the democrats intended to win. So dont be saying the military lost that war, as they werent allowed to fight to win it. Now lets fast forward to today. Bush had us winning this fight, but now here come the democrats, and they are starting to pull out, and move things to Afghanistan, and they actually want cival war turmoil in Iraq so they can sit and say look what Bush did, instead of staying the course and attempting to win. The democrats dont know how to win, just to point the finger and place blame. That is what they do, and its unreal, Mr. Bush has been gone a year, and they are still pointing the fingers, instead of coming up with a plan. Losers.

      • Victor says:

        Well, I have always understood that a nation that went to war could end up with the result having one of three outcomes 1 – Win, take home the spoils fom a defeated enemy. 2 – Draw, when neither side ends up with any gains or the other’s spoils. 3 – Lose, end up with no spoils, withdraw if lucky all your troops with honor, which has happened once or twice in history. Which one do you want ?
        None of the above detracts from the honor of the individual fighting in the actual combat, although in the lose cenario they usualy get blamed, sometimes rightly.
        Under Kennedy there were only some military advisers in Vietnam, and Kennedy had indicated that these were to be pulled out. But the Hawks did not like that. After Kennedy was killed, (he did not just die) the troops were sent in by the thousand after the imaginary Gulf of Tonkin incident (another military falsehood). It was an unwinable war. There has never been a war against insurgants, beca

      • Beberoni says:

        Freeing this nation was a great thing. I dont care what admin did it. If Obama would stay the course and make sure they have a strong government and military to take of it, I will give him kudos. But we all know the dems want to cut and run, and make it all fall apart. They do want civil war there, and for it all to fall apart. They have had some of their own say it nationally that it would be a bad thing for the democrats if we have success there. They have said that on live TV and radio, and Ive heard it. I think Dick Durbin was one of them, and he is pretty high up the dems chart. Him and others also said if we fail, it would be good for the democrats. This is what they want, and its a sad state of affairs when a political party wants the country to fail to make themselves look better in the public eye. Im sorry, but this is not my opinion or something Ive read in some conservative post, I have heard more than one of thier higher ranking democrats state these very things. Its like a little kid doing wrong, but telling on the other little kid first so that they dont look bad, but they know they are. Like a murderer being given a plea agreement, where they walk for telling on the other guy. Yeah, our liberal judges and lawyers are behind that crap happening also. Its just a sad state of affairs for the democratic party that they have been reduced to this, just because they for years have brought nothing viable to the table, and continue to try to buy votes by giving handouts. So sad.

      • Victor says:

        Well, I have always understood that a nation that went to war could end up with the result having one of three outcomes 1 – Win, take home the spoils fom a defeated enemy. 2 – Draw, when neither side ends up with any gains or the other’s spoils. 3 – Lose, end up with no spoils, withdraw if lucky all your troops with honor, which has happened once or twice in history. Which one do you want ?
        None of the above detracts from the honor of the individual fighting in the actual combat, although in the lose scenario they usually get blamed, sometimes rightly.
        Under Kennedy there were only some military advisers in Vietnam, and Kennedy had indicated that these were to be pulled out. But the Hawks did not like that. After Kennedy was killed, (he did not just die) the troops were sent in by the thousand after the imaginary Gulf of Tonkin incident (another military falsehood). It was an unwinable war. There has never been a war against insurgants where the ‘foreign’ troops have won, because the insurgents have the backing of the people because they are the people. A modern military army, whether US, Europe or Russian have the impossible task of fighting an enemy that looks and appears like the local population and does not appear in a uniform. That was the trouble in Vietnam, East Africa, Iraq and also in Afghanistan.
        By the way, it was Bush and Cheney who signed up to pull out of Iraq, which had lready started when Obama took up office.
        Stop talking about democracy etc in Afghanistan, it is a warring multi tribal medievel society, living in twelfth century. I do not believe they are worth the life of one NATO soldier. Let them keep it, as nobody else wants it either.

      • Victor says:

        Sorry about the double entry, I do believe I have a strange bug in my keyboard, apologies all round.

      • cr747 says:

        Victor I fly a POW/MIA flag year round that says, ‘BRING THEM HOME NOW OUR SEND US BACK. I mean every word of it. I can still fly, I fly every day a 747 for a private company, and I would get back in my fighter plane anytime if they would send me back. It’s not a pretty sight seeing killing of children And civilians, but those men over there are bred to kill as soon as they start walking. They would come on United States Soil in a heartbeat to kill every American they could. This country needs prayer. Our commander and chief is not Obama, “IT IS GOD.”

      • Beberoni says:

        Dont confuse Vietnam and Iraq as being the same type of war. Vietnam was a political war, where LBJ and his henchman escalated this thing and made themselves and their cronies millions upon millions of dollars. Thats all it was. They had no intention of winning, just spinning their wheels to make some money, no matter how many young Americans died. This war, is against an enemy, who resides not only in Iraq, but Afghanistan, Syria, Iran, Somalia and many other places. We dont want to blow these countries off the face of the earth, because most of their people dont want these islamic extremist running things, but they are scared to stand up and fight against them, because these cats have all the weapons and power. Im thinking we might just have to turn one of these countries into a sheet of glass, and then maybe they will understand. The lefts assertation that Iraq was an innocent country is way off base. These terrorists train there, and were funded from there, along with many other countries, but if you dont take a stand and start somewhere, well then, Hitler will rise again. If we didnt get involved then, we would all be speaking German now. If we dont get involved now, in a few years we will all be speaking arabic, at least until they exterminate us all, because that is their plan. So you can sit down and talk with them while they are planning our demise, and give them more reason to be strong, knowing we are pacifists, or we can be a man and stand up for what is right, and tell them no more bombings, we have had enough. If you have a problem with that, then God help you, because no one else can.

      • WalkingMan says:

        The US military did not lose the Vietnam war. The US military won every significant engagment it participated in. The US political leaders made it impossible to achieve a military victory. So the US walked away leaving the South to face the Soviet/Chinese-backed communist North alone.
        It was a political decision, not a military loss.

      • libertytrain says:

        I wish I could remember the North Vietnamese commander who had said the US was winning the war -until the US news media decided the US was losing the war and caused the incredible turning on our own US soldiers by the US people who had been brainwashed by the media — and so it seems to be beginning again – though hopefully more of us are able to ignore the mindless brainwashing of most news media.

      • ccg says:

        libertytrain:

        The same thing happened when the news media decided it was time for us to get out of Iraq, that is when they started their diatribe of hate and telling the American Public what to think. They were reporting that we were losing over there, and giving aid and encouragement to our enemies.
        And yes Victor we do call ourselves Americans here in the United States.It is an acceptable reference.
        The news media has their own agenda and the people believe every lie the news media tells them.
        The news media are the ones that put Obama into office. The news media is a very leftist organization. That is why Fox News in on the
        White House’s hit list. They ask questions, they don’t bow down to his highness and now his highness wants them stopped. This is not a good thing. Obama has started an all out war on Fox News. They have Annette Dunne who is Obama’s person that controls the media on film stating that she controlled the news media on how they reported on Obama all during the campaign. She did not want them questioning why he made certain statements, only reporting that he did make these statements.
        Fox News went along with them unfortunately but did start questioning the great and mighty O so now they are on his hitlist.

    • Beberoni says:

      Please allow me to editorialize your comment. “It used to be a great honor to get a Nobel peace prize.” Not anymore. Seriously. Yassir Arafat? Al Gore? Now Barrack Obama, for 2 weeks of a presidency, where nothing was discussed, divulged or done? Can you spell “fix” boys and girls?

  15. AL says:

    KEPT KICKING THEM IN THE ASS AND KILL AS MANYS AS OUR “MUSLIM PRESIDENT”
    WILL LET YOU AND MAKE SURE EVERY MARINES VOTE IN THE COMING ELECTION 2010,GOD BLESS YOU ALL AND GUIDE YOU ALL IN COMBATE. RETIRED AIR COMMANDO (ANY TIME ANY PLACE ANY WERE)

  16. Enjoy what LITTLE FREEDOM we have left, He is robbing us of it fast. I believe he was planted to do that very thing.

    • Norm says:

      Mildred really! Did you run out of your scitzo medication?

    • Elaine says:

      Mildred, You are absolutely right. Waiting around for another three years or more will wipe us out. Also this is a spiritual issue even more than a political one. We have lost touch with our covenant with God. Any nation that has done that has lost it’s blessing and has gone into captivity. We all need to be repenting and praying. They are setting this guy up to be the head of the New World Order. It is in many, many headlines all over the U.S. and the world. Does this bother anyone else? It should.

      • JeffH says:

        Hang in there and keep the offensive going. We can defeat these loony toons starting in 2010 right through 2012. DO NOT GIVE IN!

      • April says:

        Good point Elaine. Keep praying. Folks are waking up. Look at all the wonderful people on this board that are aware. Look at the good ideas that we come across of what we can do, eg:ccg writing a letter to our representives; Russell EnDean reminding us of our Bill of Rights to form a 4th branch(Grand Jury)temporarily to remove this corrupt government. Look at all the HEROS on this sight like JeffH, US MARINE, EX US PARATROOPER, 101_SARGE, AL, and probably more that I do not yet know about who fought for our rights to speak and believe how we see fit. Believe me, we are in good hands with these WARRIORS. We are soo privaleged and comforted to be on board with such high caliber of People. And I really do believe that good things are comming together to turn things around.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Elaine, so what is your option, if not waiting? Let me guess. lol

      • ccg says:

        Eyes, we could try to explain it, but its way above your level of comprehension.

      • cr747 says:

        Eyes your problem is you think everything is funny, because after you write something I always see LOL LOL WELL LOL TO YOU. You need to shut up or act like a human instead of an animal.

      • Dee D says:

        Elaine:
        The new ONE WORLD ORDER will not fly and we won’t have a thing to worry about.
        All at the top of the pile will kill each other off, wanting to be the head honcho in charge. So the rest of us will deal with the anti-christ and will have a good future or the worst possible future imagined.

      • ccg says:

        DD you obviously have not heard the news this morning out of Europe. In 50 days they are going to have a Summit with of course all of the nations. It is time now for the U.S. to pay up and start sharing the wealth with other countries. They will be discussing and signing contracts towards a One World Gov’t.

        Yep, I heard this on the news this morning.

      • Beberoni says:

        Not only that, now Im hearing this cap and trade thing the democrats want to do, which will jump gas up like 77 cents a gallon here in Indiana, which is a tax on coal burning and oil producing businesses, well Im hearing part of this tax is going to some international fund thing, where these other countries get our tax money too, only I dont think China, India, Pakistan and some of these other developing countries will have to pay it, just the old US of A. And guess what, our own Democratic politicians want to set this up, to punish our country, and pay the world. Dirty Rotten (WORD REMOVED).

      • Dee D says:

        ccg – Can you tell me which of our Presidents shared his information at a summit meeting concerning the One World Government, AKA:One World Order?
        Please tell me what you know about it.

  17. Denis says:

    Lets get off this right wing Obama bashing. What Obama has brought to the world peace effort is HOPE. No politician, religious leader, no other inspirational person has given the world hope. Hope for the end of wars, (Iran Afghanistan, Terror) Hope for the end of the complex mindset, “if you kill us we will kill you.” Hope that no more young men and women have to die in the “BUSH WARS” for revenge purposes. Obama may not be the choice for what he has done but is definitely the chopice for what he offers to the world THE HOPE OF PEACE.

    • Janice O'Malley says:

      Hope has been around forever ! It isn’t something Obama created but rather something he has reiterated ! His 20 year old white college student speech writer has created the “Hope” marketing logo not Obama! Wake up America!!!!!!!!!

      • Norm says:

        janice
        Hope died when Bush/Cheney got in office! Obama is a breath of fresh air.

      • Beberoni says:

        I beg to differ. George Bush gave the whole world the hope that there was actually someone left in it with a pair of cahoneys to stand up to these terrorist and not take their crap anymore. You may not mind them blowing up over 2000 of our people at one time, but me pal, I take great exception to it. Now dont go trying the old “they werent from Iraq” statement, because they are all the same, and I know it and you know it. A muslim fanatic is a muslim fanatic, and they all have the same goal, destroy America and Israel. You even try to refute that, and you sir are a fool. You think we should let them just keep blowing us up and doing nothing, again sir, you are a fool. You want peace, you better be prepared to fight for it, or your going to spend your life being a sissy getting punched in the nose.

      • JeffH says:

        Beberoni, save your breath. You would get better results argueing with a stone wall!

      • Denis says:

        When George Bush attacked Iraq under the pretext of Saddam having weapons of mass destruction, and that he was a fiancier if Al Quada he attacked the wrong country. The basic rule of hunting terrorists is follow the trail of the money. The fianciers of the muslim terrorists is a Saudi group of religious fanatics called the Wahabbis an extreme religious sect of Islamists who are located in Saudi Arabia, (Remember most of the 9-11 terrorists were Saudi’s), whose principle gosl is to create Islamic State (s) similar to the Islamic State the call Saudi Arabia. If Bush went into Saudi Arabia and cut off the flow of terrorist money that is supplied by the Wahabbis terrorists would have very little finacing for their wae on America. If you read books when you are not pontificating read “CHASING A MIRAGE” by Tarek Fatah you will gain a very broad insight into the Muslim world

      • ccg says:

        Denis,
        Lets see, when we attacked Iraq, Saddam Hussein was paying the families of the suicide bombers $20,000. Hmm to say he had no contact with the terrorists was a great misnomer. One of the things they did first was to put out false documents proving all of this stuff. Then when they were proved to be false documents they were assured that from then on no one or at least not the majority would believe that there ever was WMD’s.

        Some of the very training camps in Iraq that the Iraqi police are now using were terrorist training camps.
        Also remember most of Congress voted to go to war as well as several other nations.

        Everyone is so quick to call Bush a liar that they forget the facts.
        One more thing, Saddam was not acting so innocent either.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Yep, it takes balls, to attack an innocent country. Yep, it sure does. Takes more to give your troops equipment that they need, instead of a tax cut for the rich.!!! By the way did John McCain ever tell anyone where Bin Laden was hiding? He promised that during the campaign. Just asking.

      • Dee D says:

        Beberoni Jr broke his promise to get the financier (bin laden who is still alive ?) of 9/11. He took our troops out of Afghanistan and into Iraq, bringing the thugs with them to do their dastardly deeds to our troops.
        I’m using the term Jr. very loosely because intelligent thinking people realize it was not Jr’s doing, but Cheney’s. Jr. was not needed in the white house, that’s why he was on vacation for the most part of his tenure.

      • Jackie says:

        George Bush saw the intelligence the rest of our allies saw which stated Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. The democrats in congress saw this information also and voted to fund the Iraq war. Even though no weapons of mass destruction were found, we know that Hussein used them on his own people-the Curds (nerve gas).

        The man and his son had rape rooms. They supported suicide bombers. They imprisoned people simply because they didn’t agree with him. The man and his followers were weapons of mass destruction and torture.

      • cr747 says:

        Wasting air, and blowing hot air

      • Beberoni says:

        cr747 – tell me, what the hell is the matter with these people in this post? They want to defend Saddam Hussein, and attack our own president. It amazes me. I tell the truth, I dont care for Barrack Obama one bit, but I say, and I quote, “You will never hear me cut him down and back up the mulla’s of Iran”. I dont like him, I think he is an ass, but I would never put a leader of some terrorist nation, and back them up and kick our president, like the left has been doing to Mr. Bush for 8 years. How un-American can these people be? You do not weaken your own country by attacking your president while rewarding the enemy at the same time.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        CR747, nobody is defending Saddam, we are merely stating that they were not responsible for the 9/11 attacks, and that our President took us into a war with a country who actually hated the Bin Laden group as it was competition for them. Bush, wanted to finish what his daddy was stopped from doing, and this gave him the perfect excuse.

      • Don in FL. says:

        Denis you ignorant (WORD REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT)do you remember when H.Clinton, Kerry, Kennedy and Bush informed the country we were going to stop Hussien All the DemocRATS were saying yes waving the flag but the minute the press said OK we’re bored covering this war time to turn our backs on the Iraqi people. All the DemocRATS said oh yeah this warr isn’t popular anymore time to move on. You have the gall to say it’s a Bush war. you are (WORDS REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT)

    • J.B. says:

      What good can world peace bring? Wars are fought to CREATE peace. Thats STUPID. No one can fix someone else until they have first fixed themselves. That includes countries, governments, and politicians. First inside the U.S.A. boundries must be corrected before the rest of the World. I say U.S.A. because United States is a place, America is a mindset, and to most other countries, a dream-life-come-true.

      • JeffH says:

        WORLD PEACE? What a joke! You may not realize it, but human beings inhabit this world. Nice thought, but an impossibility in the human race. Too many alpha personalities in the world to get along with each other.

    • Beberoni says:

      Hope? Are you kidding me? Hope? Yeah, I hope he goes away soon so the 30 guys that got laid off here can come back to work. Hope? I hope he gets done taking from me and giving it to someone that doesnt want to work for it. Hope? What, you hope he sits down with the terrorists and kisses their butts so they will play nice with us? It isnt going to happen. They dont understand that language, and never will. They have taken a vow since childhood to live to kill us, to even kill themselves to kill us, and your fearless lying leaders isnt going to change that, and if you have hope of that, you are gravely confused. My God man, what kind of drugs are you on? What hope? There isnt one little thing he has said or done that brings hope. None. Now if he would have gone on TV and told the enemy that if they didnt back off, he was coming at them full throttle, then Id have a little hope in him. But he has no plan, except to take my hard earned money, and give it to some guy that doesnt want to work, that wants to sit on the porch all day drinking 40′s and smoking cigarettes. Im sorry, but I got a big problem with that. If he said he was cutting all the left wing social programs, and that these people were going to learn to be responsible and get a job and keep it, then Id have hope in him. Instead, he is making more social programs, so more people can stand around with their hands out, waiting for the government to put something in them. Sorry dude, I dont want no government handouts, never had one, and never want one. I want them to back out of my life, and business life, and let them make money, and be successful, and hire more people, and we all work, we all pay taxes, and all is good. But no, your boys want to punish the sucessful business by taxing them more, even killing the Bush tax cuts in 2010, but yet reward losers like GM and Chrysler with billions, which we all knows amounts to buying votes from the UAW for elections to come. No, sorry, where you get hope from with this guy, and not really just this guy, but his whole political party, well its nonsense. They bring no hope here, only to our enemies, who are laughing at our stupidity right now for electing them. But hey, its going to turn into a good thing. America woke up, thats why these cats are leaving in 2010 and 2012. It cant get here quick enough for most of us. But bringing hope? Really dude, put down the crack pipe. Your dillusional.

      • ccg says:

        Good job Bebe. You tell it like it is.!!!

      • JeffH says:

        The hope Obama brings is change, and he wasn’t lying about that! Change for the better? Not a chance in hades! Anyone that looked deeply into the man’s background and history would have realized that this Leopard wasn’t going to cange it’s spots. I just hope it isn’t to late to change now!

      • Beberoni says:

        And this Leopard has organized his lepers and they keep doing un-American things that are costing all of us. When he goes before terrorist nations, and cuts down our last president to their face to make himself look good, does he not understand he is representing America, or is he representing something else. Its very damning to this country what he is doing.

      • Retired Military Couple says:

        Thank you for your clear, true words. We agree completely with you, as do everyone I know (the employed or self-employed). Even though we are technically retired, we are still working in our own business & are very tired to trying to hire people who really don’t want to work. I wish I had a penny everytime I hear – I can’t work full-time because I’ll loose my benefits (foodstamps, section 8, wic, etc etc etc) OR can you pay me “under the table so I don’t loose my benefits? Yet these are the same people who have a Blackberry (why do they need one), Direct TV with most of the movie channels, buying steaks (we eat lots of chicken), and buying cigarettes and booze (they have the money because they get foodstamps). This has been going on for years, but gets worse each time the Dems are in office. Now we have a new Democrat hierachy that is adding bailout after bailout to an already STRAINED middle-class. We MUST get out there and vote to get as many out of office 2010 – 2012 before that upside-down pyramid gets annilated & there is no one left who can pay the taxes. Then what happens to those programs and the country?

      • Retired Military Couple says:

        Oops, We forgot to say who we were responding to. Thanks goes to Beberoni for his comments on being tired of working and paying for those who won’t work.

      • cr747 says:

        You go retired military couple. Fighter pilot vet. vietnam

      • Beberoni says:

        And what is one of the first things this stinking loser did when he got in office? He says we all need to tighten our purse strings, then he extends unemployment and ups the benefits, and qualifies more people for food stamps. What the hell? Stinking lying jerk.

    • Todd says:

      Hope in one hand and crap in the other. See which one fills up first. Hope is nothing without action.

    • Obama isn’t the only one who has given us “hope.” The world has been full of hope givers! Remember Chamberlain — who was a reasonable prime minister who did a lot to bring Britain out of the Great Depression. He gave us hope for “Peace in our Time.” He had the hope that one could negotiate with the enemy. He came back from Munich announcing great change and hope for the future.

      But hope by itself is a foundation without a house! Obama gives us hope — but where is the house?

    • gaetano says:

      Hey dennis , we know that Obama want peace,now just answer ,A piece of what? Oh, I know ,(WORDS REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT).

    • Beberoni says:

      Sorry Denis, your wrong. He has done nothing to offer peace. Let me educate you son. To offer to sit down and talk with those terrorist nations, Iran, Syria, Somalia, whomever they may be, is a death kiss to the United States. Do you understand who these guys are? Really, do you understand. They want us dead. They have said they want us dead. They have said over and over they want us dead. They swear they will kill us. They will kill themselves to kill us. They have said there is nothing that can change them from wanting to kill us. Now,having heard them say this, over and over, in many ways, do you really, I mean are you pompous enough, to think that this guy, one Barack Husein Obama, can make these guys not hate and want to kill, when it is ingrained in them from youth, to want to kill us? Sorry Denis, it cannot be done. There is one way that could stop them, and that is them finding Jesus Christ in their lives, but being that this is the primary reason they hate us, I dont think this is going to happen anytime soon. So, you can be a pacifist, and just curl up in a ball and hope they dont come for you, or you can be a man, and let them know your not going to let them blow up the World Trade Center basements, the USS Cole, the barracks in Lebanon, dragging our dead through the streets of Somalia, blowing up the World Trade Centers. We need to let them know we are not going to sit around anymore while they do this. If we sit around and talk, and dont take action, come on dude, they are going to keep blowing up more and more and more stuff. You really cant see that? My teenagers understand this. I dont understand why full grown adults like you dont understand this. I guess unless you study this enemy, and see who they are and what they are, you will not understand this. Kind of like, if you would have taken the time to find out who this Barrack Hussein Obama is, his associations with whom, and what he is about, you would have never pulled that lever. But you let ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and MSNBC drum into your head over and over and over, CHANGE-CHANGE-CHANGE, and you bought into it my friend. Dont buy into thinking these guys will stop because we play nicey nicey with them, oh no. That will make them attack even more, because they will play us for the fool. Understand them. Understand. Then you will know why talking will not work.

  18. Carol says:

    please remove me from your e-mail list.

  19. Ed says:

    Norm, it is you and people like Foolpatrol who really need to get the facts straight….your man will never make it to one term, he will be impeached for his anti-American sedition!

    • Norm says:

      He’ll more than likley be a 2 term president. The stock market is improving and employment will pick up later this year. We at least understand the need for healthcare reform and hopefully we will begin to wind the war(s),

      • Beberoni says:

        I would bet my house on that one Pal, and Im not a betting man. But it is a sure bet. As the White Sox announcer Ken Harrelson says, “He gone”

      • Todd says:

        If he’s not out of office by then, you won’t have to bet your house. He’ll take it and everything else you’ve worked for…

      • Beberoni says:

        If they try something like that, well, they will lose their house also. The American people will revolt when and if they think theyve got that much power.

      • JeffH says:

        Norm says “hopefully we will begin to wind the war(s)”, is that like broken wind or hot wind? He is winding the hearts of America? NOT!

      • Norm says:

        jeffh
        sorry left out “down” I need a proof reader.

        wind down, a. to lessen in intensity so as to bring or come to a gradual end: The war is winding down.
        b. to calm down; relax: He’s too excited tonight to wind down and sleep.

        You know – the Bush money pit wars.

        beber – I would bet your house. You may wind up living in a cardboard box.

      • JeffH says:

        just funnin’ ya!

      • Beberoni says:

        Right Norm. Now get into your mobile Meth Lab and move to the next block.

      • ccg says:

        Norm, the stock market is back down today.
        Sure things are improving. The job loss is only 500,000 per month, not the 750,000 that is was before. That is what you call improvement?
        Everything they say is an improvement is a joke. What about the jobs? The only one spending any amount of money is the Obama for fuel in his plane.
        They say there are less filing for unemployment BECAUSE THEY HAVE GIVEN UP.

      • cr747 says:

        YEA, GAS JUMPED TODAY FROM 232.9 THIS MORNING TO 255.9 THIS AFTERNOON.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        wELL, LETS NOT TRY AND GET AN ENERGY PROGRAM GOING. I WOULD RATHER JUST KEEP PAYING OUT THE NOSE, THAN GIVE IN AND ADMIT THAT WE NEED TO STOP THE DEPENDENCE ON OIL. For those of you who will day Drill baby drill, check and see how long oil exploration and drilling take. Don’t get your hopes up…lets just make other countries rich and make ourselves poor, I mean really poor.

    • Beberoni says:

      Actually, he will make it 4 years, but I dont really truly think his own party will have him run in 2012. Everything they do blows up in their face. Their ideas are askew. Their plans are lacking, and their inexperience shows tremendously. Soon they will run to save their face, and throw him under the bus and blame it all on him, when all he really does is read what his telestrator tells him to say. Thats all he’s got. But no, seriously, there will be no 2nd term. Anybody that believes that is a doggone fool,like the Norm guy in this post. Fool. No way, no how will Barrack Hussein Obama be elected for a 2nd term, and I dont think he will even be running.

      • April says:

        Your probably right Bebe, if Mr O makes it that long. He has a track record bailing out and is incapable of making a decision so he votes “present”.

      • cr747 says:

        RUNNING ALRIGHT,,,, RUNNING SCARED

      • Michael J. says:

        Beberoni, Mr. Obama will let loose more stimulus money just prior to the mid term elections which will boost the economy slightly. His comrades in congress will take credit and win re-election. Aterwards the economy will tank again until shortly before the 2012 election when Obama will manufacture a national security crisis that will allow him to implement martial law and suspend voting rights.

      • JeffH says:

        Michael J., anything Obama’s administration does will be revered by the MSM. They want to shut FOX down now, but that won’t happen, short of “accidental” deaths to Hannity, Limbaugh, Beck, O’Reily.
        Thank God for voices other than the Kiss A*s MSM.

      • Beberoni says:

        I dont think so. America has woken up, and even the majority of the uneducated that pulled his lever are thinking “what the hell did I do”. Well, except for the extreme wankers, like eyeswideshut, Norm and Smilee. Hell, he could lock them up and beat them everyday and they would still yell “Go Barrack go”.

  20. victorialynn says:

    Hey Norm,

    What you stated is exactly right! You describe Obama to a tee – he is all of those things that you reference; “not a US citizen, no college records(all sealed), is directly responsible for the takeover of GM & Chrysler, the dollar is worthless because of Obama, he is a Communist, Facist, socialist, look at the people that have trained him (Soros), and if you think us citizens being upset about the destruction to this United States of American is “sour grapes” – then I think perhaps you are the idiot!!

    • Norm says:

      Would you care to explain how you reached the conclusions you that you obviously believe?

      • Beberoni says:

        His conclusions are his, but I will add this. Barrack and his boys take a lot of money from old Mr. Soro’s, and sorry if you dont believe it, but George Soro’s is as anti American as they get. If someone is going to take money from someone of his caliber, that says loads about them. Bad loads about them.

      • JeffH says:

        Beberoni, you are so right on with your comment. I know I bring up Soros a lot, to the point that some ignore it, but he is a very evil anti-American whose sole purpose in life is to destroy a free America.
        He is the “devil” himself and has most of the Democratic Party in his hip pocket.

      • Norm says:

        Big business has both parties pretty well sewed up.

      • JeffH says:

        I agree on the big money part. The anti-American Soros spends his money not for profit, but to destroy the very core of America. He is a socialist and has chosen Obama as his messenger. Two peas in a pod so to speak.

      • ccg says:

        Jeff
        You are right Soros is evil.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        So, Jeff, using the theory that you expouse, what will Soro do when the country is destroyed? His money will be worthless and he won’t have any control. What is the point of destroying this country? Doesn’t make much sense.

      • Beberoni says:

        Exactly, and these liberal lefties take tons of it from him, and you and I both know that they owe him “special favors” for it, and again, we both know that those favors are not in the best interests of the United States of America. How people can vote for this is beyond me, but then again, I love this country.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Bebe, you still miss the point. If Soros is going to destroy this country, what is in it for him? When it is destroyed, the money will be worthless, and chaos will reign. What exactly will he have accomplished? No country, no power. Your concept is not very advantageous.

      • JeffH says:

        Beberoni, are you aware that he was backing Hillary Clinton before Obama?

      • Beberoni says:

        Look even deeper. Old Billy boy got his pockets greased by him also.

      • Todd says:

        What’s the point? You’re obviously deaf, dumb and blind….

      • Norm says:

        The point is any idiot can rant and rave.

      • Todd says:

        You’ve definitely proven that…

      • Beberoni says:

        Point well taken Norm. But its not like you had to expose yourself like this and admit it, we all knew it anyhow.

      • April says:

        She did. Look who he associates himself with.

  21. Jane says:

    You all said it all and said it well!! bho is one of them–not one of us, that is evident by the way he is trying to run this country! His plan is for us to go down in defeat. We need to unite and vote all
    liberals out of office next time!

  22. Ohhhh the cry from the right is ALWAYS THE SAME! If our President reaches out in an attempt to start the Peace process, and get health care to those that have been denied it, he is called a Socialist!! He is a socialist because he wants Vets, their families and the poor or the needy to get Health care? Conservatives cannot see beyond your $$$! The Bush Administration got us into a war that cost billions a month, got us into it based on lies, deceit, and just plain underhanded methods, for what? For thousands of innocent Iraqi men, women and children to die for OUR cause? What about that the death, demoralization and horrible wounding of our own troops while Blackwater and Halliburton made millions off the war? What about the 11 Saudi Arabian terrorists that flew planes into buildings that came from a country whose leader shook hands with George Bush, was welcomed at his Texas ranch and was welcomed as a friend? Anybody ever wonder about that? All of you so eager to stomp on President Obama should look into your own backyard! Anyone that thinks this country was too perfect to let the world know that horrible mistakes were made under the Bush leadership, or thinks WAR is ALWAYS the answer, is just bloated with the mistaken idea that America is never wrong! Maybe, just maybe our President was recognized because what the Right sees as ego is more correctly allowing that we can seek peace, and we can accept in a humble manner that other nations have seen us as arrogant and willing to break all rules of Peace for our own selfish ends! WE SOUGHT WAR FOR OUR OWN SELFISH REASONS! THAT IS THE TRUTH! Deal with it! Maybe if you can see beyond your $$$$ you will understand War is NOT always the answer. To save this planet and the people on it, we need people working together for Peace, for the common good, and for the benefit of those that come after us!

    • Kathie Hawtin says:

      Josie, you are a complete idiot!

    • John says:

      Ok Josie Bush was not the best President we’ve had but next to Obama he’s a Washington or a Lincoln. Obama will go down in history as this Country’s worst President surpassing Carter.

    • Sirwilliam says:

      You Poor uninformed IDIOT. You’ve got to be joking. Are you a REAL American, born and bred? Do you read or just watch CNN. It’s simple people like you that we true Americans have fought and died for to protect and insure a good life of FREEDOM. You make me sick.

      • cr747 says:

        SIRWILLIAM I HAD TO GO THROW UP AFTER READING YOUR ARTICLE

      • Beberoni says:

        CNN? Are you (WORD REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT) me? You want to use CNN as something legitimate to watch to get your news? What kind of sick individual are you. CNN wouldnt know the truth if it hit them. Might as well read the National Enquirer, youd get more truth there. CNN. Wow, not good for your case.

    • Michael J. says:

      It must be noon time. All the liberals are now awake.

    • Michael J. says:

      Josie, you know all of that stuff is true because your gay liberal commie, America hating college professor told you so, right?

    • Elaine says:

      He doesn’t want healthcare for everyone, he wants to run an insurance company with extremely expensive premiums that he mandates (forces) people to buy into or pay huge fines (hidden taxes). He and the folks that are pulling his strings don’t give a flip about our health.
      Have you heard what they predict the premiums per month will be on an average family? No average family has that kind of money. Okay, so if they don’t have the money they will “subsidize”. Just more money out of everyone else’s pocket. It will destroy this country. It is amazing that there are still people who cannot see this.

    • Norm says:

      Josie Arballo
      I hear people calling you names but I don’t hear any logical, intelligent arguments. It’s all BS.

      • Smilee says:

        Norm

        Ditto

        These radicals can only attack when confronted with the truth and that is exactly what Josie said, none addressed his points on the merits, I suppose they are unable to as the truth is hard to refute

      • Beberoni says:

        The truth. Present me the truth, in the time frame he was voted this award, which was 2 weeks into his presidency, what he did to deserve a Nobel Peace Prize. Now keep in mind, it cant be for a plan he might have divulged, or for something they thought he might do. This award is given for something someone has accomplished and allready done. So keeping that in mind, what truthfully did he do to deserve this award? Sorry, there is nothing there. Mr. Bush freeing over a million people would have been much more deserving, but what do I know. I only live in the real world of what is and of what has happened, not the fantasy world of what I think someone could do. The truth will set you free, and if knowing and accepting the truth, and not falling for fairy tales makes me a radical in your mind, then so be it. But I know the truth, and the truth is Mr. Bush freed millions, kept millions more safe, saved millions, and paid for it with his popularity at the hands of the left wing liberal press. The truth will set you free.

      • Smilee says:

        HE WAS VOTED THIS AWARD RECENTLY HE HAD TO BE NOMINATED WITHIN TWO WEEKS INTO HIS PRESIDENCY BUT THEY DID NOT VOTE ON IT THEN OR ONLY CONSIDERS WHAT HAD HAPPENED UP UNTIL THAT TIME, THIS IS BUT YOUR SPIN, IT COVERS THE YEAR PRECEDING THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF IT. IT IS AWARDED UNDER THE TERMS OF THE LAST WILL AND TESTAMENT OF ALFRED NOBEL, AND IT MEETS THAT CRITERIA AND ALL OF YOU WHO USE YOUR OWN CRITERIA ARE IRRELEVANT AND SHOWS DISRESPECT FOR THE WILL OF ALFRED NOBEL.

      • JeffH says:

        I guess if that were a part of the criteria, nomination based on 12 days of promises of peace, then why haven’t more presidents that lied recieved the award. Woulda, coulda, shoulda doesn’t make world peace, and woulda, coulda, shoulda not been a Nobel Peace Prize for the Obamination.

      • Smilee says:

        Jeff

        Obama had nothing to do with this, it is too bad you cannot show respect for Alfred Nobel’s last will and testament, it was consistent with his will but you feel you should be able to impose your spin on it, you are really irrelevant to this outcome

      • JeffH says:

        Well thanks smilee for putting me back in line. I have not disrespected Alfred Nobel, I have direspected the process!

      • gaetano says:

        The truth about Obama will damn sure set him FREE.And the truth will come out,sooner or later.

      • Smilee says:

        JeffH

        His last will and testament defined the process and is one and the same, you disrespect the process you disrespect him too, they are one and the same, You just angry they choose Obama and it is really none of our business albeit you do not have to like if you were a nice person you would show respect for the process rather that trying to inject what you think it should be, that is after all disrespectful in itself.

      • JeffH says:

        Smilee, I really don’t care what your opinion on the matter is! George Soros bought and paid his Norwegian socilist pals, who owed him big favors, for the award anyway and made sure it went to his little puppet Obama. That is my position and I will stand firmly by my opinion.
        Name another time when the Nobel commmittee has chosen to name someone as the prize recipient for “what they may do in the future”?

      • JeffH says:

        …and you can decide whether I am a nice person? You don’t even know me and would be quite surprised to find I might not be remotely close to what your feeble mind might imagine. You need to get out more and lose those fears. You might be surprised to find the sky isn’t really falling.

      • April says:

        Smilee, I’ll tell you what is disrespectful! Warped minded folks such as yourself that condone a corrupt process and back the corrupt no-goods running the corrupt process. Jeff H shows way more character and integrity than you will ever comprehend. Smarten up and quit being a ninny.

      • Don in FL. says:

        Smilee you (WORD REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT) I ask you “where is this so caleed will. You have never seen. Also not only was BO in office 12 days but he only served 143 days as a Senator. He deserved WHAT?

      • Smilee says:

        You are not capable of understanding it as you have convinced yourself that it is only your criteria that should be considered, I do not recall the name of the book I read that contained it but the author was asked since about Obama’s award of it and his response was that it meets Alfred Nobel’s criteria, the committee considered all that happened in the year previous to their voting not just the two weeks as you say but the committee has said in considered a full year up until the time they voted on it, I guess you are free to believe any lie you wish but you are not entitled to create you own false facts,

      • JeffH says:

        Smilee, you are mistaken in yout comments! Here is an excert from the first paragraph of Alfred Nobel’s will:

        http://nobelprize.org/alfred_nobel/will/short_testamente.html

        “The whole of my remaining realizable estate shall be dealt with in the following way: the capital, invested in safe securities by my executors, shall constitute a fund, the interest on which shall be annually distributed in the form of prizes to those who, during the preceding year, shall have conferred the greatest benefit on mankind.”

        Again, how has anyone disrespected Alfred Nobel’s wishes. The fact is, the Nobel committee disrespected A.N. wishes by choosing someone who did not, “during the preseding year”, “have conferred the greatest benefit on mankind.”

      • Beberoni says:

        Smilee is old and senile, so take it wasy on him. He has been dillusional for quite some time now. Heck man, the cat even voted for Al Franken in Minnesota, so whats that tell you?

      • Beberoni says:

        Don, I have a question for you, if you can answer it. Why is Smilee ok with them prostituting Mr. Nobels last will and testament like this? It seems to be this is a total prostitution of what this award is supposed to be, to give it to someone strictly to make a political statement. Prostituted the guys last will and testament.

    • Beberoni says:

      He is a socialist, if he want socialized medicine. Its not that hard of a concept to figure out. Socialized-Socialist. Capish? And you might think it sounds good, but maybe you think you walk in the hospital and say I want this done, and its done and you walk out, free of charge. Ha Ha Ha I say to you. Not going to be that way my friend. First of all, if you are paying insurance premiums now, they will go up even higher. Second of all, there are a lot of people going to be pissed off that want this stuff. You see, if you dont have health insurance, you will be forced to buy it. So where is the woman that has 5 kids by 3 different men going to get the money to pay for insurance for the 5 kids she has, when she allready lives on welfare and food stamps. Where is the money going to come from? You? Me? I dont really know for sure, but I do know for sure, its going to come from somewhere. Maybe that is why Canada’s tax rate is like 60 percent or some crazy rate like that. You want to be a bleeding heart liberal and take care of the world, ok fine, just be ready to pay for it, because let me tell you pal, if your working, oh yeah, your going to pay. Your really going to pay.

      • Thurman Marcum says:

        beberoni,

        What do you call social security and medicare?

      • ccg says:

        It’s supposed to be an insurance program that we have paid into all of our lives.
        But, like everything else big Government controls it is a failure. So we thing they are going to be able to run a Health Care System. hahahaha

      • Beberoni says:

        Social security was meant to be something to fall back on incase you got hurt and couldnt work anymore, and insurance policy of sorts. It was never designed to be a retirement fund. However, it would have worked pretty good, except for the one fact of the government running it, and they stuck their sticky little fingers into it, and screwed it up just like they have the school system, fannie mae, freddie mac, the banking industry, medicare, medicaid. They have had all these years to fix these things, and they are all bankrupt, because the government runs them, and doesnt give a crap. Now some of you want them to run your health care also. Unbelieveable. Are you nuts? Medicaid and Medicare are both a big scam which allows doctors and insurance companies to rip off the government, who in this case is you and I, the taxpayer. I myself, I would much rather prefer my money go into a privatized account of my choosing. Yeah, if Id been able to do that since day one, Id be set pretty good right now, and Id never have no need for no stinking medi caid or medi care. So thats what I think about them.

      • JeffH says:

        I suppose you never paid into Social Security or Medicare.

      • Thurman Marcum says:

        Jeffh,

        I do draw social security and medicare each month.I did paid into it.

      • JeffH says:

        Then they must not be “socialist” programs.

      • Social Security as it was originally implemented was fine. In the 60s the government changed the rules, allowing it to use (steal) SS funds to pay for “other things” like trips for congressmen, bribes, and pork for the loyal supporters (cronies) back home. That was when SS became a Ponzi scheme. Your money is already gone, gone, gone. When you get old, you will be supported by the new, young “investors” (suckers) — if there are any left working by the time you retire. Bernie Madoff ran the second longest Ponzi scheme in history. The longest running Ponzi scheme is SS. Like Bernie, the Democrats “hope” the day of reckoning will never come. Have a happy retirement — broke, like Bernie’s naive investors.

      • Rod James says:

        Don Kingsbury, You are wrong the longest ponzi scheme is FRACTIONAL BANKING!!(Include the fed) This something out of nothing BS has been around for a few hundred(thousand?) years.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Thurman, Jeff is a little sensitive about Medicare, as it is a SOCIALIST program that he likes and participates in. Hard to call someone names, like socialist, when you are enjoying one yourself. I said repeal Medicare and SS. and let them all fend for themselves, giving them their money back, however they squeal like a stuck pig, and trip over themselves, trying to tell me how those programs are different. I have asked what new socialist program Obama, has come up with, but they can’t answer that one either. Goes along with the impeachable offense that I ask them to address.

      • Don in FL. says:

        Obama doesn’t have any program, He hasn’t done a damn thing yet

      • Thurman Marcum says:

        Eyes,

        you are right, social security was passed during the Roosevelt administration.It was borrow from the American Socialist Party.Don’t tell Jeffh. He might have a heart attack.

      • ccg says:

        Eyes, Thurman just said he also draws Social Security, as well as Medicare so you would be watching him squeal too.
        Too bad you have no real understanding of what is going on.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        CCG, all I know it that it is hypocritical when you enjoy something and want to keep it, while bashing the person trying to improve it.

      • Beberoni says:

        And if you dig enough, you will find all this “missing” social security money was a big part of Bill Clinton’s smoke and mirror tricks to make it look like things were allright for awhile, as him and his boys plundered it beyond recognition.

      • Don in FL. says:

        Thurman you’re another (WORD REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT). Social Security has been payed by the person while he worked all his life. His employer contributed as much as the worker. GOVERNMENT ADDED NOTHING TO IT, just broke into the SS account to fund Viet Nam and NOW claim SS is broke. Medicare is also paid by the working individual. Obviously you don’t have deductions coming out of your welfare check

      • Thurman Marcum says:

        Don,

        I have never have been on welfare.I retired and work ten years in the coal mines and twenty-nine years at a manufacturing company.I also got a associate degree in accoutanting.

      • Thurman Marcum says:

        Don,

        I mispel acconting.

      • Dee D says:

        Don – Every Administration (both Dems. and Reps.) take the surplus from SS and spend it on everything other than what it was started for. Never a penny returned.
        When Dems are in control Main St. and Blue collar working Americans get a few crumbs.
        When Reps. are in control so many more groups are allowed to receive benefits from the fund or they want to privatize it. Anything to bankrupt the whole program.
        Any guess as to the WHY’S?

      • ccg says:

        Thurman, sometimes its just our computer keyboard. We all misspell stuff. It doesn’t mean we don’t know how to spell it. LOL

      • Norm says:

        Beberoni
        He wants to fix a broken, unsustainable system, no more no less.

      • Beberoni says:

        WORD REMOVED FOR CONTENT – WORD REMOVED FOR CONTENT – WORD REMOVED FOR CONTENT – WORD REMOVED FOR CONTENT – WORD REMOVED FOR CONTENT. By the way, I typed all that in there, nothing was removed, but you all understand what Im saying.

      • libertytrain says:

        It seems to me that anything I’ve noticed removed was removed because it was probably extremely rude/foul. You can kind of tell that because whomever is doing a little editing is not taking out much and leaving the rest to our imaginations. I for one, see no reason for people to be called extremely foul/rude names, no matter what side your on. And I generally enjoy your posts but think you are being silly with this one but that’s just my opinion – When I see a lot of name calling on either side, I find the post has lost some or all of it’s credibility to me at least and my opinion of that person’s post flushes away -

      • ccg says:

        Liberty
        He typed that in himself. He was feeling very frustrated.

      • libertytrain says:

        I know, that’s why I made my comment – I don’t know what he was frustrated about – the language some people seem to be using – demonstrates their frustration, yet also shows they can’t write without profanity – which is really silly.

      • keith says:

        what are you the language police????

      • libertytrain says:

        Keith- if you are referring to my post, I’m allowed to comment on people’s inability to write anything but ridiculously boring posts filled with cursing, being rude, being vile – None of us will learn anything from any one if one is not capable of posting a genuine thought without acting like a bully on a playground. I don’t care about spelling, punctuation, grammar – I expect these comments to teach me something, explain to me why you think the way you do -make me think – the other style of writing is useless – no intelligence or thought needed for that -

      • Beberoni says:

        Thank you for realizing that. I see people writing all kinds of cursing that is printed here, and I myself get things removed for content that merely constituted that someones pants were the opposite of dry. Thats not cursing. But I see some nasty stuff written, and I get offensive content for pants that are not dry. Thats all.

    • Retired Military Couple says:

      Josie, you are terribly uninformed. VETS already have healthcare (I know, I am one and so is my husband) so you have no leg to stand on there. Not only that, but Obama’s plan is to take away the care that our soldiers (and their family) now get & force them into a BIGGER, MORE EXPENSIVE system that will dilute the care they do get. Are you crazy? It is difficult enough for a soldier, sailor, marine, airman/woman, to prepare for war (or the possibilities of war) when they (and their families) will have to depend on a bloated health-care system that does not understand the needs of the military. Honey, unless you have been there, you don’t need to be verbalizing on something you know nothing about. Apparently you are against war – so is every military person I know (and I bet we know many more than you do) – but connecting your anti-war comments with healthcare reform is just STUPID!!!!

    • Thurman Marcum says:

      Josie,

      I agree with you.

    • cr747 says:

      I looked in my back yard and I thought I saw Husein Obama running by my back door with Hillary chasing in with a hanky.

    • DaveH says:

      After forced health insurance, then what? We will die much more quickly without food, so free food? And in most parts of the country, we would die more quickly without shelter, so free shelter?
      And who pays for all this stuff? Society’s slaves of course. Slavery is okay as long as it benefits you Liberals, isn’t it?
      In your little fantasy world, you probably believe that all you have to do is print more money. Zimbabwe tried it. But, guess what? Money is useless without the production of goods and services. Oh sure, we can split up the existing assets until they are gone, but then what? Who is going to do the real work when they know that the fruits of their labor goes mostly to those who won’t make the effort?
      Of Course, the leaders will be on top of the heap until the complete collapse, and that is enough for them. But what about the rest of us?

  23. Russ says:

    I have absolutely NO IDEA why Obama received this award. He has not accomplished anything pertaining to world peace or even peace within our own country. In fact his entire administration has been so divisive that he probably should be removed from office, before he does anymore damage to our country. This man has been the worst disappointment ever to inhabit the whitehouse. I say vote this entire administration out of office.

  24. Jim says:

    Nobody knows what the Nobel awards rules and procedures are. They are very secretive, you don’t even know who else was nominated. Any statements to that effect are pure speculation, not fact.

    The response from the right was of course expected to be this. Also, letting facts get in the way has never been something they worried about.

    The fact that he steered the USA away from the war mentality of the Bush/Cneney administration is enough to be awarded a peace prize. He certainly had much more effect on world peace than anybody else this year.

    • Sergeant Rock says:

      Josie,

      It really is too bad that you don’t know your REAL history better. Meanwhile, regarding your dis about the “right wing” complaining if the “left wing” president “reaches out” to other countries by BOWING AT THE WAIST not once but twice in front of MUSLIM PRINCES, sabotaging REAL peace possibilities, SOCIALIZING our MANUFACTURING BASE, BANKS, AND THE ENTIRE (admittedly bloated and broken) MEDICAL INDUSTRY, you obviously don’t understand the basis of FREEDOM and REAL PEACE. It is true that we all should be compassionate toward each other, and that we should be helpful. But when the government STEALS my money or property to give to someone who has done nothing to EARN it, that is just plain wrong.

      And if you think that ALGORE or YASSER ARAFAT or JIMMY CARTER deserved the peace prize more than oh, let’s say MOTHER TERESA, the DALAI LAMA, or any of HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS who actually put their lives on the line for peace and for the benefit of their fellow man, then I really don’t think that you have any abilit to employ critical thinking.

      You display severe hyprocracy when you complain about W and “his” war in Iraq. Odd how any war started by a Republican is always evil, while any war started by a Democrat (which we have NEVER won one of) is automatically righteous. And before you complain about Vietnam being NIXON’s war, look up the TRUE history of that fiasco, and you will see LIBERAL hands all over it, right up to and including the truly ignominous withdrawal which allowed that entire region to become a death camp. And if you look honestly at O’s policies in the Iraq/Afghanistan war, how can you POSSIBLY complain about W and keep a straight face?

      The comments about the reasons that war started are about half-right, but if you want to be accurate, you will note that this policy is also pursued by your CHOSEN ONE. What you fail to realize is that for probably 25 or 30 years now, the FINANCIAL forces that we don’t hear much about have been pulling the strings, and foriegn policy is pretty much always subservient to BIG MONEY, whether the Administration is Republican or Democrat.

      Another thing that you lefties need to get over is Bashing BUSH and expecting us to jump up and down defending him. Those of us in the conservative center aknowledge that W was one of THEM more than one of US. We know what he did and why. We also know more about real history and world affairs than you give us credit for.

      If you look honestly at HIS record, you will find that it is veiled in secrecy, which is clearly for one of two reasons:

      1. There are things in the record that would cause him to be ineligible for the office he holds, things that he has written that would be problematical if revealed, things that he has said and done that the American Public would not appreciate if they knew.

      2. There is NOTHING THERE! The great speachifier who locks up in synch with the teleprompter. The Editor of the Harvard Law Review, but nobody has found any papers he has written for that publication. One can’t possibly have gained a degree at the (formerly) prestigious HarvardLaw School without having written SOMETHING! The O’s entire past is shrowded in darkness as far as actual documentation. As for your complaint about “birthers” be advised that there is a VERY REAL lawsuit being heard soon in court that alleges a falsified birth certificate and has credible documentation and witnesses to make a strong case. Where are the texts of the GREAT speaches we were told about but never heard? Why when HE talks to the Country does he only do so with a teleprompter? One would think that a GREAT ORATOR, a TRUE GENIUS, such a GREAT MAN, would be able to get a few coherent sentences out under the power of his own sails…..

      Dude is a SOCK PUPPET!!

      If you are philosophically OK with the kind of thinking that permeates OBAMA, SEIU, ACORN, the DNC, as well as folks like the Reverend Wright, William Ayers, EITHER of the sick and twisted EMMANUEL brothers or ANY of those communist, elitist, statist, eugenecist, abortionist, monsters with which the ONE has surrounded himself and filled out his Administration, then you are clearly not connecting with the physical realities of PLANET EARTH.

      BEFORE you can claim ANY MORAL AUTHORITY to lambaste W or Republicans in general for “war crimes” you had better look to the American Holocaust that has resulted from ROE v WADE. About 1.3 MILLION, that is 1,300,000 INNOCENT CIVILIANS are murdered in America each year by members of the LIBERAL ARMY. And where the hell is your hero group AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL raising holy hell? Where is the righteous anger of a liberal generation that LOVES their fellow man so much that we have to steal from the rich and give to the poor so that we feel warm and fuzzy? They are giving donations and other support to ABORTIONISTS? HYPOCRITES!!!!! If you had ANY HUMANITY at all, any TRUE COMPASSION, you could never espouse the wholesale murder of what can only be called INNOCENT BLOOD!

      And if you had ANY grasp of economic realities, you would be looking into the unholy alliance between the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT under OBAMA and the BIG PHARMA, particularly the VACCINE MAKERS, who are colluding to force every American to take multiple EXPERIMENTAL vaccines each containing more MERCURY than the EPA wants you to have in a lifetime! MERCURY is TOXIC to nervous systems, particularly the brains of the young, often imposing lifelong deficiencies, autism, retardation, arthritis and more. O and his crowd WANT US ALL TO BE SO SICK THAT WE WILL BEG FOR UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE. Also, if you look at the writings of the EMMANUEL brothers or others of the O crowd, there are REAL eugenecists there that believe that the world is OVERPOPULATED right now and in need of a POPULATION REDUCTION. This trumped-up swine flu epedemic is just that. An excuse to force the population to submit to POISONING.

      Another thing that you or ANY THINKING BEING must conclude is that ANY LEGISLATION generated by EITHER HOUSE absolutely MUST be READ and understood by every legislator before signing. To do otherwise is to COMMIT TREASON and to violate their oath of office, which swears to defend the Constitution against all enemies both foriegn AND DOMESTIC. Any legislation that has not been read and comprehended in its completeness by any legislator could contain provisions that are inimical to the Constitution. To vote for such is at the very least MALFEASANCE and almost certainly TREASON. And yet NONE of you LIBERALS raised a single voice about this important concept. Rather, folks like Spectre stand in front of REAL AMERICANS and contend that the bill is too long and nobody has time to read it, and besides, it is incomprehensible anyway. I BEG YOUR PARDON!?!? TREASON, TREASON, TREASON!!!!

      I could go on, but there is likely little point. LIBERALS, (how ironical they call themselves that) are some of the most narrow-minded, arrogant, intolerant folks I have ever met. Most are so deeply into the socialist dogma that there is no hope of recovery. My sincere hope is that you are not one of those.

      • Beberoni says:

        Seems a few folks in here have taken odds with you telling the truth. Why are people so afraid of the truth? I dont understand it.

      • JeffH says:

        Sergeant Rock, I could never have expressed myself as you have.
        Thank you for a wealth of truth and knowledge in your comments.

      • Norm says:

        Sergeant Rock
        Total nonsense.

      • April says:

        Norm, You prove yourself incapable of comprehending the true facts that Sergeant Rocks took the time to so simply and elequently lay out.

      • Norm says:

        The problem is that I do understand it.

      • Beberoni says:

        Private Norm
        Total dickhead.

      • gaetano says:

        Thank You Sergeant Rock,for the most intelligent biography of the president,with all the trimmings.That was great! You said every thing thst could possibly be said. But ,these obama idiots just don`t comprehend. GREAT STUFF!!!!!!

      • billy says:

        i hear faux “news” is hiring- they are looking for a replacement for glenn crybaby beck – you should take his spot

      • JeffH says:

        billy goat, I hear your mama calling again. Don’t you eat with the rest of the farm animals? Baaaaa Baaaaa Baaaaa!

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Billy, he can’t take Glenn’s spot, he isn’t a Mormon apocalptic preacher. LOL.

      • ccg says:

        eyes, are you putting down Mormon’s now?

      • billy says:

        this reply is for cgg or whatever he/she calls him/her self.. you ask eyes if she’s “putting down mormons now”
        why cgg? are you sticking up for mormons?? if so you have proved yourself to be an(WORDS REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT).
        MORMONS!! – really? wow. wow.

    • ProudConservative says:

      And which flavor of Kool-Aid do you like best??? Sheesh!!!

      • Smilee says:

        I don’t know but it must have been awfully strong to produce his resulting post

      • billy says:

        why do conservatives always come off with the “kool-aid” thing in here- is it because you are finally sobering up from the kool aid bush/cheney spoon fed you for those horrible eight years??

      • Beberoni says:

        You really dont know do you Billy? Let me educate you once again. You guys blindly follow your sick leaders like a cult, just as all those folks did to South Africa with Jim Jones, then they all drank the poison kool-aid, because they blindly followed, instead of seeking the real truth. You my friend, are a die hard kool-aid drinker. There, now you learned something again. Arent you happy now?

      • Normal Guy says:

        You moron Guyana is in South America. Glad you are such an expert. Un=fortunate to fail again, I guess you are used to it. You know those harvard guys never would have got that right and they would just be spreading more socialism. DUH.

      • libertytrain says:

        Normal guy – this moron word is getting old. Perhaps he was thinking South America and fingers typed South Africa – happens to me all the time – independent fingers from my brain – however, I’m glad you are there to point out mistakes. Would you like me to proof yours? There have been several —

      • Normal Guy says:

        Libertytrain

        I completely agree with you. I am simply out of patients with Bebe, DaveH, JeffH, Average Joe, and others. They post consistently ill informed right wing talking points or unsubstantiated conspiracy theory and attack any other opinion. You will note that Bebe was “teaching” in his post and that he considers anyone with an education to be socialist. He is asking for it, and I am happy to play.

        I would welcome your commentary on any of my posts as discussion is useful and interesting. I certainly make mistakes and am interested in valid information. That is not generally NOT what this site is about.

      • libertytrain says:

        Normal Guy —Yes, there are many comments that are just plain silly – however, there are so many fascinating comments that really are food for thought on both sides. I think this site has many more interesting comments than not – it’s just those people who need to use the vile language, and name-calling, etc., stand out smelling like yesterday’s trash. I understand running out of patience – but when people resort to name calling and insults – they are just not showing that they have intelligence – it just makes those comments look really dumb – - you have valid thoughts – I want to read them -

      • Beberoni says:

        Sorry. I disagree. I dont teach, as I dont have the gift of teaching, its not in me. I wish it was, but it isnt. Rather, I tell the truth, and some accept it, and some hide from it. But I do know, the truth will set you free. Im a free man.

      • cr747 says:

        EYES, I HAVE A FEW STATEMENTS FOR YOU, 1. ON OCT.20 @ 8:29AM AT TOP AFTER CHAPLAIN. 2.OCT.16 @ 12:29PM 3. OCT. 16 @ 8:50PM AND ONE FOR VICTOR ON OCT. 20 @ 10:16

      • Normal Guy says:

        Owe well then I guess the “let me educate you” and the “so you learned something” are as meaningless as most of the other things that you post.

        “You really dont know do you Billy? Let me educate you once again. You guys blindly follow your sick leaders like a cult, just as all those folks did to South Africa with Jim Jones, then they all drank the poison kool-aid, because they blindly followed, instead of seeking the real truth. You my friend, are a die hard kool-aid drinker. There, now you learned something again. Arent you happy now?”

      • Beberoni says:

        Just further proof that I dont have the gift of teaching, because neither of you learned a dog gone thing. Now had I had the gift, you would have learned, but you remain uneducated, so I apologize for failing to help you learn. Its just not my gift. Sorry. All I can do is tell you the truth. You reject it, so I cant help you.

      • libertytrain says:

        Beberoni – I enjoy your posts – if we are very lucky – we can all learn a little from each other – all you/we can do is state your/our thoughts and opinions – in a fairly civil manner – and hope some one person catches a bit to think on.

      • Beberoni says:

        Its just hard to communicate effectively with people like Norm, Dee Dee, Eyeswideopen and a few others, because they are so stuck in their agenda, that the truth is not even an option for them. Im sorry, but if we are dealing with factual evidence here, Barack Obama having done something to actually earn or deserve a Nobel Peace Prize, well, its just not there. Nothing has been produced by him, sorry. It doesnt mean he is bad. It doesnt make him stupid. It doesnt make him anything. But just being the president does not make him worth of this reward. Everyone knows it is a political statement by some left wing liberals in Norway, as a slap in the face against the United States, but since the left benefits somewhat, by having bragging rights to say their guy won this award, they let the United States get slapped in the face, so that these anti American Norwegian cats can get a dig in on the Bush Admin. Thats all it is, so sad to say.

      • Jackie says:

        Your comparison of the liberal attacks on George Bush to the lack of same on Barack Obama was right on-outstanding. No person with a ounce of sense could argue against you statements effectively. God Bless You for defending a man that was unfairly ridiculed for many years.

      • Beberoni says:

        Mr. Bush was attacked daily by the liberal press, and was lied about to the American public by this same left wing liberal media. The democrats openly lied and slandered and pointed the finger at him, and now when Barack screws up and factual points are made, this same liberal media accuses the republicans of attacking him. How does that work? Do they purport all of us to be that stupid? It amazes me, that there are actually people on the left that are that stupid and fall for this stuff. Amazing.

      • Jackie says:

        Your comparison of the liberal attacks on George Bush to the lack of same on Barack Obama was right on-outstanding. No person with a ounce of sense could argue against you statements effectively. God Bless You for defending a man that was unfairly ridiculed for many years.

      • Beberoni says:

        Has nothing to do with teaching. Im trying to enlighten you to the truth. You seem to have a hard time grasping it.

      • Norm says:

        Beberoni
        You tell the truth according to who? Truth is not opinion or spin, truth is fact. Maybe you can’t teach because you have a problem with reality.

      • billy says:

        I’m familiar with Jim Jones; I don’t live under a rock. I know what it means when someone throws the kool aid thing at you. you did not have to go into length about where the kool aid thing came from.

        i feel like my IQ drops by 10 points everytime i respond to you.

      • Beberoni says:

        Big deal Norm. They all blindly followed, like you and your boys following this one that is trying to slaughter us all. Your just as pathetic. When you pulled that knob next to his name, you showed your ignorance Norm. Now curl back up into your ball and cry for your mommy.

      • Jackie says:

        You want to know why conservatives always use the kool-aid comment. I want to know why liberals always use faux news when referring to Fox new, when all of the news media at one time or another gets their facts wrong or outright lies. Yes ALL of them, not justFox.

        Liberals have their Glenn Becks and Hannitys also—Rachael Maddow, Keith Obermann and others.

  25. Maria says:

    This prize now goes to people who are the worst leaders, not the best, so that’s the way to look at this.

    It is worthless, meaningless, and a big joke. Giving it to Obama is the biggest joke of all.

    If he had any shame he would have rejected it and told them to give it to someone else.

  26. Ex-Army Ranger says:

    Folks, just look at who was awarded the “Peace Prize” before Obama. Yasser Arafat and Al Gore. Obama is in good company.
    socialists & terroists, all.

    • Norm says:

      Ex-Army Ranger
      I sure wouldn’t want you behind me in a war. How many officers did you frag?

      • JeffH says:

        Freedom of speach, even idiotic speach such as your comment to Ex-Army Ranger. Guys like him have helped defend your right to voice an opinion.

      • JeffH says:

        speech

      • eyeswideopen says:

        But, it is ok, for you to call me a liar about serving and treat me with disrespect isn’t it? Funny how the street of respect only goes one way on this site. You admit you didn’t serve, I did, and I also have lost a husband and a son, yet all I get is the wonderful retort of being called a liar. What’s funny is that you all seem to think that only Republicans have died for this country. Guess what the draft did not ask what your political affiliation was, so I think that Democrats died for this country. Sad state of affairs when the military has become political.

      • ccg says:

        Eyes, you are right. I was one that doubted you, but for that I apologize. You served your country even though you did not agree with it, and for that I thank you. I am also very sorry that you lost your husband and your son.

        You have sacrificed a lot for this country. We do not agree on most things, but I will tell you that I do have respect for you and I feel you have the right to say whatever you want to say.
        THANK YOU FOR SERVING! THANK YOU for your sacrifice, I wish I had the power to give your husband and your son back to you.

        I know we still aren’t going to agree on most things, but we can be civil towards one another.

      • libertytrain says:

        Good comment from ccg.

      • Beberoni says:

        Back when they had they draft, the left wasnt quite yet a bunch of pacifist appeasers. They used to believe in a strong America back then. I mean, come on eyes, you dont think if JFK could see what has happened to his party, that he wouldnt be rolling over in his grave? Put it this way, if JFK were alive today, and running in politics, there is no doubt he wouldnt be on the democratic ticket. Ill guarantee that. But our all volunteer military now, Ill make you another guarantee, its over 85 percent made up of conservatives that still believe in America, and not no left wing liberal pacifist appeasers. You know it, and I know it. However, no matter what side, if they volunteer to keep us all safe, Im behind them 100 percent.

      • Retired Military Couple says:

        Norm, both my husband and I were officers in the Army and I can tell you that we would be proud to serve with Sergent Rock!!!! It is people like you who have a closed mind full of “fluff” that we WOULD NOT want at our backs. Frankly, I don’t think that you would have the courage to defend yourself, your family or your country. You are probably one of the multitudes of zombies collecting welfare from Uncle Sam so of course you’ll defend the stupidity of the present government with all of your mite. Try getting a job, or going into the military, and then relook your your attitude. Maybe not the military, I’m not sure I would want to inflict some poor soldier or officer with your attitude.

      • JeffH says:

        Thank you both for your service and well said.

      • Norm says:

        I’m also a military vet. I believe in the chain of command. I also see no value in insulting and abasing the president of the US. If you don’t like the present adminstration, deal with it in an honest and proffesional maner. There’s no need in spreading unfounded rumors and lies. Lack of solidarity makes or enemies very happy.

      • JeffH says:

        I thought that by speaking up and expressing our opinions and concerns to government would be taken more seriously by the president and Congress. Some elected officials have responded positively, some call us names. The president and his personal cronies have selective hearing, they can only hear themselves. Fox News has become a personal target for this administration because they speak up. The prez doesn’t like his detractors and wants to shut them up, but an important piece of paper, called The Constitution, stands between The White House, Fox , and the citizens of the United States of America.
        Yeah, I think there are more than a few of us “right wingnuts” that are a little upset that this administration is hell bent on changing the face of America, FORCING their ideas, without a majority support of the people, down the Americans throat!
        I know who the real Patriots are on this site, they wear the red, white and blue on their sleeves for everyone to see. Others choose to wear nothing on their sleeves.

      • Michael J. says:

        Norm, I have heard the same comments as you have just posted coming from Chavez and Ahmajinedad supporters.

      • Beberoni says:

        Norm for once I agree totally with you. And truthfully, that is the gist of why this award has me upset about it. Its like spreading a lie, because it was given strictly with political agenda by those liberals in Norway, to take a swing at the last admin. Come on man, look at the facts. He hasnt done anything yet? If he could talk these terrorist into stop blowing up stuff, then yes, but it isnt going to happen.

      • Beberoni says:

        I agree Norm. But when it made the Taliban and Al Quaida happy when Obama got elected, boy that sent a strong message to me. If the enemy is happy about the state of your politics, its pretty much not a good thing. And they are happy these days.

      • billy says:

        so according to you if you are not a republican; then you must be on welfare and you must hate this country?
        wow- it’s a good thing for this country that people like you are retired!

      • April says:

        billy
        Military Couple said nothing about Republicans. They said zombies(those that think they should get something for nothing) collecting welfare. And you are no different than the ones who support O and his evil panel, as you refuse to hear what is said; rather you like to put words in peoples mouths that they did not even say, then twist it to try to make yourself feel all high and mighty.

      • JeffH says:

        billy the kid. You got us all figured out don’t you. I bet you didn’t graduate on time based on your obvious ADD!

      • JeffH says:

        April, not to worry, billy the kid is just bored and entertaining himself. After all this, maybe someday he will grow into a man like Normal Guy.

      • cr747 says:

        Norm,I sure wouldn’t want to be in the same shower stall with you, and drop my soap.

      • Norm says:

        cr747
        I don’t shower with men. Do you?

      • cr747 says:

        If your a vet you did, or are you one of them that goes for weeks without a shower?

      • Beberoni says:

        So the truth comes out. You were one of those kids that wore his gym trunks in the shower in school, because you were (WORDS REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT), eh Norm. Figures. Now that you an adult are you a little homo-phobic there Normy? You aint right dude, no if’s, and’s or butt’s about it. You aint right.

      • Robert says:

        cr747. You’re the type that raises the white flag before the fight starts. It takes courage to stand up and fight for our country. Go play with Nancy Pelosi, she’ll agree with your treasonist viewpoints.

      • cr747 says:

        Sorry pal, fighter pilot in Vietnam. Hard to raise a white flag up there.

      • cr747 says:

        Robert, where was you, dodging the draft like Slick Willy. At least I served, and retired, but am still flying a 747 for a private company, and enjoying every day of it. Didn’t get the welcome home I expected, but was proud to be alive, in one piece, and to see my family. My heart goes out to the families that lost LOVE one’s, and soldiers that are still living that war. God bless all of you, always in my prayers.

      • JeffH says:

        cr747, and thank you for your patriotism and service. I was 1H and didn’t go, but had a brother and many friends that did go to ‘Nam, but some didn’t come home like you and my brother did.

      • JeffH says:

        Norm, to be behind you would make us have to look at the wide yellow vertical stripe on you back!

      • Beberoni says:

        Unfortunately, not you.

    • billy says:

      good thing for this country that you are an “ex” army ranger

      • ccg says:

        billy, grow up and quit showing your hate.

      • JeffH says:

        billy the kid…maybe you would like to give the ex-army ranger your address and phone number, so you could welcome him when he shows up to spank your pimply as*.

      • Beberoni says:

        Well said Jeff. While the ex-ranger was out taking his life at risk everyday to keep us safe, Billy the Kid was home spanking his monkey, and probably still is. Probably pissed off to because he couldnt get into the military.

      • billy says:

        beberoni; how old are you?

      • billy says:

        strange post dude, strange.

      • Beberoni says:

        Old enough to have fought in the military so that punks like you can freely air their uneducated left wing spew all over themselves. Old enough to know that your not too bright to say the things you say. And definately old enough to recognize the Democrats of today as one evil party in bed with Satan and his murdering of babies and elevating homo-sexual relations and telling everyone that its ok. Yes, old enough to see the left is downright evil these days.

      • billy says:

        barfereino: your comments prove you to be one sad pathetic soul. if i were a crazy right wing glen beck worshipper like yourself, i just might say a prayer for you.

  27. LAS says:

    Made a mockery of what is supposed to be a prestigious award, I guess they are betting on the future, because as yet he hasn’t proven anything. Left, right, Japanese, Chinese, Black, Pink, Blue I don’t care what you are it was assumed you had to earn it …….. not betting you some day may earn it. Of the five who voted Three had to be muscled in to voting in favor of this by the two hard leaning left, not what I call a slam dunk.
    Can’t you see Norway would love to see us join them in Socialist Paradise?

    • Beberoni says:

      Im just wondering if they did some kind of investigation, what kind of money trail just might show up on this, from say one Mr. Soro’s buying this for his friend? Hmmm. Now theres a thought that would make perfect sense on how he got this award.

  28. Arik says:

    You right on it!

    He did give hope to morons and godless people – one might say he fooled them, took for a spin.

    Just to the top of this page and read – Fred Armisen articulated it nicely. Those empty promises and false hopes – how many of materialized?

    which war has Obama ended so far?

    Last I heard dem in both houses voted to increase number of troops.

    Denis is saying, “No politician, religious leader, no other inspirational person has given the world hope. ”

    Denis, my guess is you were raised in an ungodly Russian family or in the Soviet Union. Most of us believe that only Jesus gives true hope, and that most of Hussein’s promises are affront to our God.

  29. Faye says:

    It is so very clear that Obama is the planned weapon to distroy the America that we all know and love. He was groomed to be an excellent speaker and to sway the under educated and free loaders to vote him into office. We must ban together and have this anti American impeached, sooner the better. Lets all pray to our God for our country that He gave us.

  30. ImpeachObama says:

    Norm, you are ignoring your own “facts”.

  31. Ellie says:

    This ought to mean big business for the company that makes Cracker Jacks…they could simply put a Nobel Prize in every box!

    • JeffH says:

      Good one Ellie…he he he!

    • Todd says:

      A local radio show just offered a Nobel Prize for being the tenth caller. That’s the kind of value it has now….

      • Beberoni says:

        Shoot man, I hate those automatic dialers. I was caller 5 and 7, and I really wanted one of those things. But I feel better now, my buddy told me Walmart is going to have them in time for Christmas, since now they are a dime a dozen.

    • April says:

      LOL!! Very witty Ellie. Love it!

    • billy says:

      ha ha ha
      its funny how you (WORDS REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT) republicans keep digging yourself into a bigger hole everytime you open your (WORDS REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT) mouths. but it’s not your fault – you sheep are so easily led by your leaders who capitalize on your fears and your small minds.

      • JeffH says:

        billy the kid. Wouldn’t it be stupid to assume all these comments were made by Republicans?

      • billy says:

        that’s not the point. the point is republicans are the scum of the earth- and the majority of voters know this.

      • cr747 says:

        Billy, you are a (WORDS REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT). I spent 22 years fighting for my country and this is what we vets get from people like you. A bunch nitwit (WORD REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT).

      • ccg says:

        billy all you are doing is showing your youth and ignorance by statements like that.

      • billy says:

        you cannot be intelligent and know everything about anything because of the fact you fought for this country. we thank you for your service, dem’s rep’s conservatives liberals – all americans thank you and respect you- FOR YOUR SERVICE. you should realize that liberals and democrats fought for this country same way as you . thank you.

      • billy says:

        cr747: i respect you and thank you for your service to our country.

      • Beberoni says:

        Hey Billy, fact alert, if your interested. Your dems arent faring very well in Virginia and New Jersey at this very moment. Seems America has woken up, and is sending a quick message. Note, the guy in Virginia is blaming Obama and his policies, and Obama is blaming the guy in Virginia for distancing himself from him. Arent your boys just sweet? Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha. Read em and weep Billy, your losers are on their way out allready.

  32. Bob Rossoferd says:

    Chip,
    Thanks for your Op-ed on the Obama’s Nobel Peace Prize. While the award is perhaps unfortunate, it is a non-issue, which only distracts our attention from the real issues. If we are to be successful in returning our country to some modicum of sanity, we need to quit whining about nada, focus on the real issues, and attack like the liberal Dems do.

    Solo mis dos pesos, amigo.

  33. BABUSHSKA says:

    Let’s call it like it is ….the Nobel Piss Prize! It’s a laugh, especially when you look at previous winners….like Al Gore who has virtually manufactured the environmental crisis to further line his carbon foot-printed pockets. And Yasar Arafat the terrorist! Nobody takes this award seriously. But it goes to show how entrenched the tenacles of socialism is globally and how the world’s organizations want Obama to bring this great nation down. Someone in another post, mentioned a while ago, the book, Animal Farm, which many of us read in high school. For those who never read it, the story is about animals who successfully revolt against their human owner and take over the farm instituting “Animalism” believing their lives will be improved under this new animal society. Napoleon becomes the dynamic leader of the farm who can convince anyone of anything with his charm. Under animalism, they create 7 commandments to live by, with the 7th being, “All Animals Are Equal.” Over the years, as the animals lives remain as hard as they always were, and they have less and less, Napoleon encourages them to be patriotic. (sound familiar?) It’s interesting however, that in farm meetings, there appears to develop a seating hierarchy in the barn and the sheep are looked down upon as being the dumbest of all the farm animals. In the end, all animals are said to be equal, but some are more equal than others. Will we all stand for our country to be turned into a socialist animal farm by Obama?

    • Thurman Marcum says:

      Babuushska,

      George Orwell was a socialist who wrote Animal Farm and Eighty-four,his real name was Eric Arthur Blair.He too belong to the left.Ceck it out.

    • Thurman Marcum says:

      Babushska,

      I mispel check.

    • Don in FL. says:

      Let’s not forget Al Gore INVENTED the internet

      • billy says:

        and don lets also not forget that AL GORE won the presidency in 2000.

      • Beberoni says:

        Ok billy, put down the crack pipe. Dont forget either oh billy boy, you little sissy, that there were millions of military votes, I mean millions, that never got counted because they werent needed, and I dont really think I have to tell you that 98 percent of them would have been Republican, since they seem to be the party that actually cares about our national defense, because your left wing liberal pacifist appeaser democrats sure dont.

      • billy says:

        Are you seriously this stupid? tell me your just (WORD REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT) with me,please-LOL

  34. really5 says:

    Are you nuts!!!!

  35. i would not vote for him again oh thats right i didnt vote for him the first time none of what he is doing so far has been good for americans we are moving towards a dictator state and communisitic sate we before to long will have no freedom first our tv then our radios whats next oh yeah stupid health care that we do not want and i hope we tell him what he can do with his health care /no one wants it and no one needs it

    • billy says:

      actually, the last time i checked 65% of americans do want health care reform under obama- sounds like you would be a good candidate for a job at faux “news”.
      idiot.

      • JeffH says:

        Why don’t you provide us with that link, just because I don’t believe you.

      • April says:

        Prove it billy!

      • billy says:

        Please visit http://www.HealthReform.gov to learn more about the President’s commitment to enacting comprehensive health reform this year

      • cr747 says:

        I sure would like to have about 5 minutes alone with you. I would show you a little respect. You moron. I bet you wear big boots to stick the back legs of them sheep down in so they can’t get away.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        CR747, you are now showing the violence that frightens main stream America. You can’t even have disagreements with someone, without wanting to beat the crap out of them. Really shows how radical you are.

      • cr747 says:

        Eyes, I was taught how to take care of myself, and the same goes to you!! I don’t turn anything down.

      • Beberoni says:

        Thats a lie Billy, as his approval rate is lower than that, and is escalating down ward more and more everyday. Soon, his own Democrats will be removing him to run someone else in 2012.

  36. George M says:

    I truly believe that Obama is proving the Peter Principle. He is way over his head. He has very little experience doing anything except community organizing with and for ACORN. He was a Senator for only two + years. So why is he the President? He gives good speech and he is very good at lying. I know he has a socialist agenda – I just have to look at his mentors and friends – but I don’t think he is calling the shots. The real power in DC is the master puppeteer and that power wants total government control, end of story. He puts up a great front and for that he got the Nobel prize. The world power brokers, through the Nobel committee, have cheapened this once prestigious award by handing it to the likes of Arafat, Gore and now Obama (for doing nothing) I expect next year they will give it to Chavez or Ahmadinejad.

  37. granny1 says:

    Did anyone watch the interview between B.O. and Stephanopolus where
    Mr. O slipped up and said “You haven’t asked me anything about my Muslim religion”. Stephanopolus stepped in and said, “You mean your
    Christian religion, don’t you?” Where was the main stream media on this Freudian slip?

    • Beberoni says:

      The media is the left, and they dont report the truth on their own. And the slip is a fact, because those simple words, “my muslim faith”, could not accidentally slip out of a Christians mouth, because they are not a part of us. For him to say that, it has to be inside him. He hasnt fooled me one bit.

    • billy says:

      granny , i’m sure it would be all over faux “news” by now.
      anyway, i have a question for you- what are you doing on the computer? according to your faux “news” source- old people are going to be subjected to “death panels” under obama- you should turn off the computer and plan your escape out of this communist country(or is it socialist country?)

      • ccg says:

        billy,
        We don’t need your HATE talk on here. All you are doing is showing yourself up as a bully, and to be pitied. If you can’t add something of substance, then quit.

      • billy says:

        just who(WORDS REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT)are ccg? LOL

      • JeffH says:

        billy the kid, the only ones escaping will be the “country clubbers” in D.C. in 2010 and the W.H. in 2012. Dems and Repubs.
        If they ain’t fit, thay gotta git!

      • billy says:

        “and Repubs”
        wow jeff, how impressive

      • eyeswideopen says:

        lmao.

      • Beberoni says:

        Seriously billy, you little A-Hole, your boy aint going to be around long enough to instill his socialist communism, dig? He is gone in 2012. All his little helpers are gone in 2010. America woke up Billy. Now take the pacifier out of your mouth, put your needles away, throw your crack pipe down, and pull your head out of your anus. Capish?

      • billy says:

        I will bet anyone right now that he will win in 2012; I will make an even bigger bet to anyone right now that Hillary will be the first woman president in 2016.

        on another note,(WORD REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT)you are just messing with me right?? you can’t be as dumb as you appear here..

      • Beberoni says:

        Ok Billy boy, this is my last response to you, as your not worth it, because you just dont get it. I dont know if it was being stuck in the womb too long, eating paint chips as a kid, or all the drugs you did in high school, or all the head shots your taking these days from opening your mouth and spewing out garbage around guys like me that would love to (WORDS REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT) you one more time. Your like the Taliban and Al Quaeda, the truth has to be beaten into you. (WORDS REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT)

      • Beberoni says:

        Sounds like someone on Angel Dust Billy? You ok?

      • billy says:

        “socialist communism”

        you’re an absolute gem!

  38. We, as a people, are in deep trouble!

    While I am not a proponent of Abe Lincoln, even he said, “the office of the president is strong enough to withstand one bad man.” I think Abe was referring to himself.

    We will need ordinary Americans to stand up and be counted. And what scares the hell out of me is that there will be deaths in that group.

    We are plowing ground not plowed since the late 17th and 18th centuries.

    Maybe this is what Jefferson meant when he said a little revolution is not a bad thing.

    Full disclosure requires to tell you that I paraphrased both Lincoln and Jefferson…..Any how hopefully you get the idea.

  39. karl koebke says:

    As long as these moroninc eggheads distribute the “Moronic Egghaeads” distribute the Nobel Preis, it will be meaningless. It seems, only Idiots are entitled to the recognission of fame.

  40. Sharl says:

    I have read all of the comments thus far and do not believe any of you get what is happening.
    GOD said who ever stands with my love ISREAL I will protect. Well we are loosing our strongest protection because Obama is a Muslim and is not of the 12 tribe’s of ISREAL. He is of the 10 tribes of ESAU whom GOD said in Malaci 1:3 I hate ESAU. If he hates ESAU he hates all of his desendents (Muslim’s-Arabs)
    As far as out government THEY ARE ALL CROOKED Democrats and Republicans and have their own agenda. Our responsibility is to look at each ones beliefs and goals for our country and determin if they are what we think will keep our country as great as it was 60 years ago. We are the generation that has accepted all of the changes and let it happen. Now we need to take back what we have given up. Family Morals.
    As far as this prize that has been given to Obama. Why do you think he would give it back. He is not even capable of being the President of the United States and he won’t step down.
    Also you all might want to look into a thing called a ConCon which is a Congressional Convention that needs 2/3 states wanting a CocCon called so changes can be made to the Constitution. Once this happens they (Obama,Polosi,Reid) can re write the whole Constitution. At this time they are only 2 States short. Anytime a State asks for a ConCon it stays on the books forever. So if a stste asked for a ConCon 50 years ago it is still on the books!!!!!!!!!!!and can be used now.
    Wake up those of you that are not IDIOTS and see what is going to happen next.

    HE WILL BE KING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OBAMA

    • David says:

      Not for long.

      • Beberoni says:

        Agreed. In 2010 all his little helpers get voted out and thrown out on their ears, then in 2012 the rest of them go. How they gonna blame this on Bush? Thats what Im waiting for.

      • JeffH says:

        Easy answer to that! FOREVER…but wait, I hear blue Democrat footsteps. Will they eventualy throw Obama under the bus? Until next time….2012 arrives and nobody will admit they rver supported the guy! Not even his ex-compatriots in their second year of forced retirement will go to the 2009 reunion. Hopefully some will be able to collect their Social Security and Medicare Advantage Plans.

      • billy says:

        you need to ask yourself berberoni, when was the last time that people with your mind frame (or complete lack of) decided an election?

      • JeffH says:

        billy the kid. Isn’t your mommy calling you? It’s getting dark outside and you know the right wing boogey man, who is lurking in the shadows, scares you to death.

      • Beberoni says:

        Listen Billy, you are a dumbell. As far as education goes, Ive got a BS, a Masters, and a PHD. How about you, you little twerp. Oh, and one more thing Billy Boy, meet me in the ally, because Im a BMF on the side.

      • billy says:

        berberino- you are a total liar- i do not believe you for one second.
        and jeff the street lights just came on- i guess i do have to get back home to mamma.

      • billy says:

        “(WORDS REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT)” LMAO

        what a gem!

      • cr747 says:

        Talk about mind frame Billy Boy, that’s something you must have been born without. All I have red of Beberoni articles, have all been true.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Bebe,
        I am seriously doubting your education, as you have no grasp of history. Some where along the line, you would have picked up at least a smathering of knowledge about economics, war history, politics and the immediate past, and as an intellectual you would at least know that Glenn Beck is a Mormon, prior to throwing your lot in with his. You probably have some college, however PhD ? Doubtful. I would be much more inclined to believe someone like Average Joe, whose composition is at that level. Dead give away was how you abbreviated the designation of Doctor of Philosophy. Someone who worked hard for that would never type it PHD. It is Ph.D. Small things will always tip the hand of someone who is not telling the whole truth.

      • Beberoni says:

        Well Billy, thanks for asking. In 1980, 1984, 2000 and 2004. And now thanks to the uneducated like yourself, that voted for a totally unqualified candidate in 2008, we are where we are now, with the highest unemloyment rate since the great depression, and nothing good in sight until 2012 when we can undo this huge mistake. Have a great year Billy, because he is going down fast.

    • Sergeant Rock says:

      Beware the Constitutional Convention! While there is a time and a place, the time is likely not now, and the place isn’t here. A concon right now would play into the hands of the lefties in power and before you know it we would have an ALL-NEW, COMPASSIONATE, FAIR constitution that imposed SOCIAL JUSTICE as defined by the power-grubbing libs.

      FIRST we have to FLIP THE HOUSE (and the senate) and get folks in office that UNDERSTAND what the Constitution is all about, not these commie clowns that are busy trying to redefine what the definition of the word IS is. Then, a series of legislative acts aimed at restoring the Constitution should be proposed and forwarded. If these fail, and fail BECAUSE THE PEOPLE don’t want them, then I’d say find a quiet corner and keep your powder dry. If they work, we are ON THE WAY to restoring the Republic, but not home by any means.

      We can only justify an armed revolution or armed action IF the federal government begins taking unconstitutional violent actions against voters. While this DOES happen on a very limited basis now, it is likely to increase. If we can’t stem the tide with campaigning and voting, then our goose is already cooked.

      • April says:

        Sergeant Rock, Thank you for expounding. I really appreciate your knowlege and will be doing further homework on the subject. And thank you for your sacrifice and service for America. God bless you sir.

    • April says:

      Sharl, God did not hate Esau’s flesh, He hated his spirit as he did not honor his heritage like Jacob did. Arab Muslims are of Ishmael. It is the Russian government that can be traced back to Esau. Mechek in Ezekiel chapter 38 is Moscow today for example.
      I agree with you that we need to take back what we have given up. Thanks for the info about ConCon, we do need to be aware.

  41. Alix says:

    This kind of backward blunt self protective hatred, lack of intelligence and lack of sophistication is what we will not put up with anymore.

  42. BABUSHSKA says:

    Really5: Was “are you nuts” a commentary on my post?

  43. 'star' says:

    Very interesting, informative dialogue! No one mentions all the work the Clinton’s and Bush presidencies did towards ‘Peace’ in the Middle East. Much more than a forced handshake by President Obama.
    What is peaceful about supporting terrorists killing their own people and Jews while lying about it?
    The “Prince of Peace”…Jeremiah 6:14-16 “…saying, Peace, peace; when there is no peace. Were they ashamed when they had committed abomination? nay, …Thus saith the Lord, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way,and walk therein,…find rest for your souls. …we will not walk…” Ephesians 2:13,14″…our peace”;2 Thessalonians 3:16 “…the Lord of peace Himself give you peace always by all means. The Lord be with you all!”

  44. gmakari3 says:

    Oh, the hope and chains, demos are on a demolition, sooo many factions have been let into our beloved country, supplied funds for acorn nuts, cair-rots, and they are funding their terrorist groups, I guess we will get the chains, and hope for our death to come quickly.
    Will America ever be the same as our forefathers hoped it would be? Probably not, if we survive, we will be stronger.

  45. Kirk says:

    Year’s Greatest Definition!

    Sometimes you are encouraged about our country’s future when you see something like this. Specifically, there is an annual contest at Texas A&M University calling for the most appropriate definition of a contemporary term. This year’s term was:

    “Political Correctness.”

    The winner wrote:

    “Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.”

    • Michael J. says:

      Very clever Kirk, I have a simplified version. Democrats may indeed spend time and resources in search of a clean end. However, a Republican would simply put a glove on one hand and go for it.
      On the other hand, Obama’s recent ancestors would probably take it home as fuel to fire dinner with in a Walmart parking lot.

  46. jim foerster says:

    ITS TOO BAD PEOPLE DID N NOT SEE THIS IMPOSTOR FOR WHAT HE REALLY IS. THERE ARE SO MANY SIGNS THAT TELL US THIS GUY IS NOT EVEN AN AMERICAN CITIZEN AND OUR CONGRESS AND EVERYBODY ELSE THAT SHOULD BE CONCERNED IS TURNING THEIR HEADS THEY ARE THE ONES THAT SHOULD BE PUT IN JAIL FOR NOT UPHOLDING THE CONSTITUTION THEY TOOK AN OATH TO UPHOLD. PELOSI SIGNED TWO DOCUMENTS ON THE SAME DAY THAT CERTIFIED HIM AS ELIGIBLE TO BE IN THE WHITE BOTH DOCUMENTS WERE FALSE AND THERE IS MORE THAT HAS BEEN BURIED THAT SHOWS WHAT AN IMPOSTOR THIS GUY IS. ALL YOU IDIOTS WHO THINK HE IS SO GREAT JUST KEEP YOUR HEADS IN THE SAND UNTIL YOU WAKE UP WITH A BIG BOOT IN YOUR CHEST AND TELLS YOU TO SHUT UP AND BE STILL UNTIL I TELL YOU TO MOVE OR TALK.

    • billy says:

      “IN JAIL FOR NOT UPHOLDING THE CONSTITUTION THEY TOOK AN OATH TO UPHOLD.”

      so you are for throwing dick cheney and george bush in prison then, very good.

  47. David says:

    Forget the Peace prize

    This guy is dangerous. I am very conserned about what he has planned next

    Look at how much good it did to give GM all of that money. They still filed BankruptcY and are now talkng about laying off 10,500 workers.

    These clowns in Washington need to take a refresher course in Economics 101

    • Russell EnDean says:

      Indeed. The leftists have treated major elections like the Emmy Awards for years now. The only difference with this one is that some of the proposals being made are so fundamental, that they will be unable to be easily reversed, four years from now. This is why we must Stop them NOW.

    • Beberoni says:

      Yeah, but think of all the UAW votes the democrats bought for future elections. Thats what it was about. Now they want to be friends with all the American muslims and get their votes. These are worthless cats on the left. Worthless.

      • JeffH says:

        Even some of America’s muslims see through the rhetoric. Most came here to experience the great freedoms in the United States. I have spoken to some that fear we might lose those freedoms, as it was fear that drove them from their countries.

  48. michael king says:

    you people should be ashameed of your slandering of our president… if other nations rescept presient OBAMA than we as a united people should be flattard. if not for the president him self than for the office and what it simbalize. you claim to be Americans but to me you sound like haters.or just plain racetrack jockies.

    • David says:

      The nations that respect him, hate us and are drooling while the chinks in our armor form. Many nations are laughing at us as we follow them straight down.

    • BJ in NY says:

      Michael,
      I almost feel sorry for you venturing into this heated discussion, but you seem innocent in believing that other nations respect our President. Oh yes, they like him because he is no threat to their plans for world dominance…but respect? He will not earn respect with his beautiful speeches. Other powers are masters of deceit and more likely gloating over this administration’s weakening of foreign policies and already visualizing America’s downfall. This is not disrespect, it is acknowledgment of the need for leaders who understand the sad destination of socialist policy as well as the hate and danger inherent in many foreign cultures and religions, through no fault of any one outside those cultures.

    • Beberoni says:

      What the hell? Huked on fonics dint wurk fur u?

    • JeffH says:

      michael king, here in America we say “to get respect, you have to give respect”. Obama and his cronies have disrespected the Constitution and the American people. Winning the presidency by a land slide guarantees only that we have a new president for four years. Nothing more, nothing less. Obama’s biggest influence on America might be that he started a ressurgence of patriotism in some that may have forgotten our history and what freedom really means.
      I really think that the citizens were “brain dead” and posed no threat to his (SOROS influenced) agenda. Americans for the most part are not the SHEEPLE he mistook us for.
      GOD BLESS AMERICA! Thanks to all that have sacrificed their lives and placed themselves in harms way so that I can be free. THANK YOU!

      • JeffH says:

        I really think that his stratagists believed the citizens were “brain dead”. correction

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Jeff, you have become obsessed with the George Soros thing. What is the benefit of bringing America down? If we are destroyed, there isn’t much to rule over. Who would want to try and rule over a bankrupt country? It would be a moral bankruptcy as well as a fiscal one. In addition, the “Rich” Americans money would be worthless right along with ours. It would be impossible to purchase enough gold to be able to have economic stability, so darling, it would be the end for everybody, just not the poor. The rich would no longer be rich, or has that point just escaped you?

      • Beberoni says:

        Nothing wrong with being rich. But it is when you use that money to buy political favors that are damning to America. Im a middle class guy, but I like rich people. Every job Ive had was given to me by someone with money. 90 percent of the taxes that make this country operable are paid by what you call the rich. Unfortunatly, your democrats demonize them, and chase them off to Mexico and other countries because they want their money via tax increases. Its easier to thread a camel through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to inherit the kingdome of Heaven. Why do you think that is? Because money corrupts people. Not all, but most. They will get their judgement one day, good or bad, so stop judging them just because they are rich. But when they obviously are dirty like Soro’s, shame on you guys for taking money from him for political favors in return.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        and your answer for Sheldon Adelson? I strive to be rich, however, I will always pay my fair share to this country. I resent those who hide their money in off shore accounts, while using this countries infrastructure and let the majority of costs fall on the shoulders of the middle class, who is not progressing at all during the last ten years. Yes, I resent that. Corporate Amercia should not be getting any of our tax dollars to conduct their business.

    • Beberoni says:

      They do not respect him. Where did you get that from? Did the liberal news channels tell you that, or do you have a secret inside line on this? You see, the Taliban and Al Quada were asked before the election who they wanted as our president, and they said Obama. Now why do you thing that is? If you help, use this equation, 2 + 2 = 4.

  49. Russell EnDean says:

    Like everything else this administration has done, complete lies and bull****, doing nothing but enriching Congress, and changing us to a Marxist nation.

    The only difference with this event is that now the Nobel organization has lost all credibility by making to an award to a non-US Citizen Muslim Marxist fraud who has accomplished nothing in the area of peace.

    And if traveling the world at taxpayers expense bowing to muslims and appologizing for the history of the USA to foreigners counts, just wait to see how much domestic peace we have when our country is completely insolvent and when any sort of Health Care bill passes. Predictably, there shall be acts of violence which make the Viet Nam demonstrations resemble a Kindergarten field trip. That is where we are headed today.

    • Beberoni says:

      Well, it lost the rest of its credibility. It took a big hit when it was awarded to Arafat. Then another big hit when Al Gore got it. Now the Obamination. Good grief. The world is Satan’s playground afterall.

  50. wonderbear says:

    O.K. you guys….are you ready for the truth? None of you know it but you are willing to display your ignorance so lavishly! I commend you all for that!
    Do the research on bloodlines in the U.S. presidency and see who is related to who. It’s a fact that Obama is a distant cousin to the Bushes. It’s also a fact that half of Congress are also distant cousins.
    It’s also a fact they are all bloodline cousins to English royalty down through hundreds and perhaps even thousands of years of controlling the masses.
    Ripping off the people has always been en vogue. This is nothing new. Yapping about it doesn’t change a thing. How many of you are ready to pick up something useful for lopping off their heads? If you can’t bring yourselves to do that then you may well be better off finding a good passtime so you don’t worry yourselves to death about what they will do to us next….say; like bowling! I just yesterday rolled my first perfect game after 48 years of learning how! What took me so long; you ask? Well; I had to stop doing all the things that prevented me from doing it and remember everything I have learned culminating at the high point of my bowling career yesterday! It was a long process but I finally got it right! Does anyone else care but me? Of course not! But I now possess the self-satisfaction of accomplishment those who have never done it cannot enjoy!
    I didn’t once think of Obama during those twelve consecutive strikes and by his own admission it is something HE will never accomplish!
    My perfect game is more important to the world than his Nobel prize because it was legitimate!

    • Beberoni says:

      Not sure how to take the early part of your post, but your 300 game was definately earned, whereas this award he got wasnt. That part I do understand.

    • JeffH says:

      I have had the luxury of throwing four 300 games. I should have had a half dozen more, except I was only lucky four times. No matter how good you are, and I was pretty good, lady luck has to be in your house.
      As for all of the relationships you mentioned, must have been a lot of incest involved. I don’t buy that one. Obama has had lady luck in his corner, but ole’ king coal is starting to replace her.

    • JeffH says:

      I forgot to tell you, congratulations! It is a difficult task. Wear your 300 ring with pride dude.

    • April says:

      I am a terrible bowler,LOL. But you are correct about the bloodlines. I thought I was the only one who found that interesting. GO US!!

  51. Winston Wolf says:

    I want to know just what that (WORD REMOVED) in the white house is going to do when HIS terrorist Buddy’s attack the USA . That (WORD REMOVED) is not a leader of this country , he is a Lamb in the den of lions ——– GOD help the USA ——— Winston ( USN-RET )

  52. Michael King appears to be using a ficticious name. Anyone born and raised in this country could do a better job of writing than his comments show.
    Me thinks he is from another country and is not an American.

    • Retired Military Couple says:

      Reference Michael and not being a US citizen. I would have agreed with you 15 – 20 years ago, but have you really seen what’s coming out of the public school system these days? There is probably at least a 50/50 chance he’s a US citizen who graduated within the last 10 years.

      • Beberoni says:

        Exactly. Cant give an “A” for excellence, and cant give an “F” for failure. Mediocrity, thats what the left wants us to strive for. I know Im not allowed to give Barack an “F”, because it would make him feel bad.

    • Beberoni says:

      Me thinks he needs spell check!

  53. Canadian says:

    To say that Obama hasn’t been in office long enough to earn the Nobel Peace prize doesnt make sense since being a President is not one of the requirements. He won because he has brought hope to the world. I wonder what Jesus would say about this whole business. There seems to be one group of people fighting anything the other group says or does and it doesn’t seem to matter what it is. This group says that Obama is a terrible man/president because he chooses discussion first to seek peace, rather than doing the usual; sending young men and women to kill and be killed. This same group argues because they don’t want basic health care for so many. So many Americans are left without help when they are hurt or become ill. Anyone can be denied health care if an insurance company simply decides to deny it. What about the wonderful men & women who worked to clean up the ground zero after 9/11? Many are left without health care. That is so sad. What would Jesus do? Do you really think he’d say don’t discuss anything, threaten war. Do you think Jesus would deny health care? Come on folks.

    • s c says:

      Why do you DARE to claim that Jesus would have anything to do with health care? Jesus wasn’t here to contaminate himself with politics. You might remember that Jesus threw the money changers out of the temple. BHO is just another money changer in the temple.
      It’s up to US to throw him out on his big ears.

    • Ken says:

      Jesus would not need to pass a universal health care program. He simply would heal all who came to Him. Regretably, our nation no longer needs God – so we must have a national health care program.

    • Smilee says:

      I don’t think Jesus would see health care as politics, that is man’s approach in it in this country.

    • ccg says:

      Canadian

      You said sending young men and women to kill and be killed ok, what about the young men and women that are in harms way right now, that he is ignoring while Gen. Chrystal has called out for more troops to help them? No, he is out running around doing important community work, you know like trying to get the Olympics for Chicago.

      His health care plan would only be a burden on the people, not a help and no, I don’t think Jesus would like that.

    • Beberoni says:

      Im pretty sure Jesus would tell you that if you want peace, you better fight back when these guys keep punching you in the nose, lest you become a punching bag for them, ala the days of Bill Clinton. Some of you see to think that being a Christian, we should be a door mat for people to walk on, and be all nice. Well, I would say, dont take my Christianity as a sign of weakness, you better take it as a sign of strength. God allows for this thing called a righteous anger you know, and when someone keeps attacking us and killing us, my righteous anger gets up, and I will pray to my God to lead us and deliver the enemies into our hands, just as Gideon and David and Solomon and many others before us. You think God is a sissy and doesnt believe in war to accomplish his mission? Au contrare young one. You better read your Bible, for there is one fine day, God is going to open up a can of whoop a** like youve never seen and the angels are going to start dumping out their containers, and all hell is going to break loose. When this is all done, there will be peace like never before seen. Peace for years, and for always, is only achieved by force. Like it or not, that is how it is. So you can roll up in the fetal position and cry for mommy like a good little pacifist appeasing democrat, or you can stand up and fight for the peace that God will grant you if you ask for it. What you gonna do?

    • Wayne Keel - V Vet says:

      To the clueless people who use Jesus’ name and hide behind the mask of satanic Obama’s socialist agenda, I’ll truly pray for you to wake up and pull your heads out of your rearends. This guy has alligiance to Satan himself and you are falling for it hook, line, and sinker. The NWO has been waiting for years to destroy our economy, patriotism, and the Christian faith. I never thought it could be done, but with the help of liberals, Hollywood, Muslims, the A.C.L.U.( atheists,communist,& lawyers united), and the Supreme Court( in 1962 removed God from schools), IT HAS BEEN DONE! Christ said “there will be many coming in my name” and Obama is one of many! I don’t know if his head can spin around like the demon in “The Exorcist”, but trust me, this guy is EVIL to the core. The guy would lie even when the truth sounded better and this godless nation is eating it up. Don’t even think of calling Christians racist, because I even thought of voting for Obama, until his mentor Wright set the record right, and exposed Obama’s hatred for whites. I was hoping he would be a good president, because the black race as a whole loves God and deserves better than the cards they have been dealt in the past few hundred years. The NFL has more than it’s share of men who give God the glory when they stand in the spotlight, but in every race there’s those that stand out the opposite direction, and Obama does that and lies about it! Look at the people he surrounded himself with. Outright communist and lunatics who have been at war with this nation for 40 years.
      To the guy who wrote the letter ripping Chip and saying that Obama is a good president, all I can say is you don’t have a clue to what’s going on and YOU are the one who needs to wake up. The Dems want you to stay dependent on the system, so they can keep you where they want you. The Repubs aren’t much better either. The nation needs a party for the working people with the constitution taken seriously with no prejudice or racism toward anyone, but at the same time allowing everyone the same chance to better themselves by their works and not the color of their skin. That’s what Jesus would do. Let’s all gather in his name and take our country back from the commies. God help us all!!

    • Dee D says:

      Thank you Mr/Ms Canadian.
      I don’t know about the GOD of some of the people posting on here – But my GOD is a LIBERAL.
      He believes in helping everybody and killing no one.
      He cures the sick and blind. He feeds the hungry multitudes.
      He sent his son to die for our sins and no one appreciates it.
      He teaches love, not hate.
      We have two forms of cancer in our society – one that destroys the body while the other one tries to convince everyone that ONLY THEY KNOW OF WHAT THEY SPEAK and they are always right. The blind will lead the blind.
      One example of this is the childless couple who knows exactly how you should raise your heathen children.
      I personally think the true definition of the hypocrites – they lead such a boring senseless life they stick their nose in every ones affairs. They are masters at calling all fools, idiots, stupid but fail to realize they are giving self descriptions of themselves and airing their own personal dirty linens.
      Then again you have the natural born trouble makers who thrive on creating trouble and problems for all. Those types are in hog heaven.
      The amazing thing – they are not capable of thinking for themselves. They have to rely on what others tell them to believe and how to act.
      Examples of that are the birthers, swift boat lying thugs, tea party organizers and the list goes on and on.

      • ccg says:

        D.D. in your response to M/M Canadian

        Note anyone not wanting to hear what the Bible says skip this posting.

        You are right in some of what you say, but oh so wrong in other things.In fact it doesn’t sound like you even know the true personality of God.

        1.He believes in helping everybody and killing no one?
        Let’s see, In Deut.21:18-23 shows why even a rebellious child might be put to death. Again in Deut. 22:25 it tells where a rapist should be put to death.
        You may not understand why God states what He does, to kill. It is to keep evil out of the world. It is not murder it is self defense. Even in the Greek and Hebrew languages there is a major difference between murder and kill. He does not want wimpy Christians changing His Word and make Him sound like something he is not. What kind of a Father would not have His children protect their own? He did not call us to be fearful, or weak. He gave us spiritual armor to put on in Eph. 6. We are called to be warriors for the Lord, not wimps. Therefore it is imperative that we know all of the Word, not just parts of it. Most of the time our battles can be won on our knees in prayer, but sometimes God has called His people to go out and fight, which is called war.
        1Samuel 15:3 Go and smite Amalek and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
        Many times in the Old Testament God called His people to war.

        When Jesus was talking about turning the other cheek, he was talking to those who He was calling to go out and witness to the world about Him. He does not want us to overload them and if it makes them mad, and they strike us we are to turn the other cheek. It does not mean that we are to just stand there and get beaten up, but we are to be a gentleman/lady and back off.
        Of course, it doesn’t mean that we are to go on a rampage and just kill someone that we don’t agree with either. This is why it is important to rightly divide His Word so you can know the difference between things like murder and killing to protect your own.

        John2:14-15 Jesus took a scourge which is a type of whip and went into the temple and upset the tables and drove out the money changers and the sellers of animals for sacrifices. He was angry and upset.

        2. He teaches love not hate?
        Yes, He does teach us to love but, yet, God does HATES certain things and people. Malach1:2-3 says God hated Esau as he despised his birthright.
        God hates evil.

        Are you aware that God says His name is Jealous? Ex.34:14. He also states that He is a Jealous God Ex. 20:5.
        And D.D. just in case you don’t believe in the Old Testament, Math.5:17-18 says that Jesus did not come to destroy the law or the prophets or change one jot or tittle.

        Your words: “We have two forms of cancer in our society – one that destroys the body while the other one tries to convince everyone that ONLY THEY KNOW OF WHAT THEY SPEAK and they are always right. The blind will lead the blind.”
        Then you go on to say “Then again you have the natural born trouble makers who thrive on creating trouble and problems for all. Those types are in hog heaven.
        The amazing thing – they are not capable of thinking for themselves. They have to rely on what others tell them to believe and how to act.
        Examples of that are the birthers, swift boat lying thugs, tea party organizers and the list goes on and on.”

        Wow, that’s the pot calling the Kettle black.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Last time I quoted something from the Old Testament, I was promptly informed that It was “OLD” and I was rather stupid for not living by the New Testament. Interesting that you didn’t get the same retort.

      • ccg says:

        Well Eyes, they were wrong.
        In fact I used to think the same way till I became a student of the Word. The Old Testament is filled with prophecy for our future and is quite relevant for today.

      • Dee D says:

        Eyes – Our yesterdays are stair steps into today and today stair steps into tomorrow.
        Yes the Old Testament has been fulfilled and times now are found in the New Testament.
        One fact all should remember – in translating the Bible from the two original languages a certain percentile of the Authors opinions has been injected into the script. Also like english one word may have a double meaning, except in our english one letter makes it different. Sounds the same but two different meanings.
        The Bible as a whole is not meant for only one person. FAITH and a pure heart is the key and if anyone wants to learn – he/she will find exactly what they need.
        Where man makes their mistakes is it must read the way we want it to be so it will serve our purpose.

      • Beberoni says:

        Wrong. God sent Gideon, David, Solomon and more into war, and told them to kill everyone, men, women and childre. Solomon didnt listed and kept some of the women for himself, and let them keep thier false gods, and they are still around today because of not listening to God to kill them off. There were times when people pleaded with Jesus to heal, and he just walked away and didnt do it. He teaches us to love, but he also tells us about hate. He teaches us about righteous anger, and there is such a thing. So your accessment is wrong. And I will for one, guarantee you when Barack stood before another nation,and told them “we are not a Christian nation”, that there was not happiness in the heavenly realms over this. Slam dunk on that one.

      • Beberoni says:

        God is not a liberal, just the opposite. God does not condone man on man sex. God does not condone murdering unborn infants. God does not condone changing yourself from a man into a woman and vice versa. But He wont strike you down for it, He will give you a chance to repent up to and including your dying breath. But then at that point, there is a time and place, where He will tell you, that since you never wanted Him to bother you, that He will oblige you and send you to a place where you will never hear His name again. His principles are very conservative. You are in error.

  54. Merv says:

    I would have much more respect for Obama if he said: ” I am refusing this award as I am definitely not qualified to receive it.” Now that would be a class act. But guess what, ain’t gonna happen because he probably thinks he’s eminently qualified and the best President of all time who has and never will accomplish anything except make this country less safe and keep us in debt for the next 100 years.

  55. BABUSHSKA says:

    Calling all dem’s and ostrich’s to take their fricken’ heads out of the sand. Here’s what’s ahead. Obama made an agreement at the G-20 Summit with world leaders to devalue our dollar, as other countries plan to follow suit. This is to prepare us for the creation of the one world currency. Here’s what Comrade Obama said after the summit.

    “We have achieved a level of tangible, global economic cooperation that we’ve never seen before,” President Obama said shortly after the summit meeting of 20 leading economies concluded here. “Our financial system will be far different and more secure than the one that failed so dramatically last year.”

    After that, it won’t be long for the creation of the one world gov’t.
    Obama is gearing up to step up to the world’s stage and become the world’s president. Read the book of Revelation — it has all been predicted. It is coming people. But as most Christians know, we will be raptured out of the coming tribulation.

    • JeffH says:

      Be forwarned, this country belongs to Americans, not Obama and his ilk!

      • Dee D says:

        No JeffH – Cheney sold this country to China in Geo. Jr’s name.
        And the rest of the Americans showed him we trusted his judgment because now all we have left to buy is goods made in China or even from Communist block countries.
        All this happened before Obama was elected – but what the hey – blame him for that also.

      • Beberoni says:

        Hey yo, Dee Ditz. Earth to Dee Ditz. Bush and Cheney are gone, have been for a year now. Can we concentrate on the here and now, and the lack of direction Obama and his thugs have? Can we concentrate on his anti-Christian statements? Can we concentrate on him buying future UAW votes for the democrats with billions of bailout money? Can we concentrate on the highest unemployment rate in history, that he and his boys have caused, and the millions more to follow? Can we please just concentrate on these wankers not having a plan or a clue what to do? Live in reality, and stop hating. Look at what they are doing, and realize it sucks for America. He is supposed to be representing us, but at every turn he represents these foreign nations, and stick it to us. Very unbecoming of any American, let alone the President.

      • Dee D says:

        Dee is responding Beber – Since you can only point out all Obama is not doing it needs to be explained to you over and over again————-
        Obama did not make the mess – he inherited it from the previous administration.
        You refuse to even give him a chance and you certainly will not admit even to yourself your party created the mess and committed outright murder and made the world hate America.
        All you can do is bash the man and charge him with everything your party done. Face the facts sir and be honest with yourself.

      • Beberoni says:

        Truth is, if Bush had 4 more years, the economy would have kept rolling along strong as it was. His last year, when it was evident the Obamination was going to defeat the 150 year old challenger, it went in the tank, as you and I know that business’s had to hold on to their money to pay the upcoming democrat tax monsters, to pay for their social programs that they were about to escalate. What was the first thing the big O did? He expanded unemployment and food stamps. Yep, business knew. Now we are all paying for it, and will until 2012 when we can undo this huge mistake weve made. And I say “we”, as a people, as I didnt vote for this loser.

  56. Kristin says:

    Obama is evil to the core. He is surely the most arrogant, inept president that has ever been elected into office. I obviously do not like him or anything that he stands for. We are losing our freedoms fast, gun rights are next. I understand Obama is quitetly passing an amendment that guns must be declared on our 2010 taxes along with a fee or tax for each one. If we fail to do so it will be viewed as a crimial act. And remember, whatever we pay taxes on we do not own. We are being set up for gun confiscation. I am not a big fan of guns, but what ever happened to the right to bear arms? Along with all of our other rights being flushed down the toilet we will also be losing the right to protect ourselves from those who wish to do harm (and I’m not entirely sure I rule out Obama). However, after stating all of the above, truth is that we have been warned in both Daniel and Revelation that just before Christ’s return these things (meaning losing our God given rights) would happen to us in the U.S.A. Even so, it is hard to watch my country go down hill. Maybe its time to start looking outside the box and realize this may be God’s devine plan to use this so called “messiah” to bring about the end of time as we know it on this earth? A wolf in sheeps clothig? Just a thought!

  57. Liberty Belle says:

    I am still curious about that charity which President Obama has vowed to donate his Nobel Prize money to….does anyone know what charity that might be?….this knowledge could probably tell us a lot….

  58. Henry says:

    obama is not interested in what the american people want or need. If he did he would shove this health care issue under the table. What he is most interested in is forcing socialism on the America people. How many people in America knows what socialism? I have been there and done that in another country and it’s not for me I was forced just obama is trying to do. If the american people knew what socialism was and what he is trying to do the american people would tar and feather him and send him back to Kenya.
    Henry

    • Beberoni says:

      You would think, that his top priority would be finishing winning the war in Iraq, getting done whatever he is doing in Afghanistan, and maybe address the dire economic condition he has caused, but no. Do you know what his top priority is right now? You got it, trying to silence Fox News, so that us Americans cant get the truth about things. Why is it that ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN and MSNBC will not, and I repeat, will not report any truths that have to do with some of the bull crap the left is pulling? They dont investigate the ties with Soro’s and his dirty money trail. They didnt investigate Baracks’s ties to Bill Ayers and Hey Ya Tony Rezko. Rev. Wright thing was a quick hit and run away from it, just because everyone had heard of it. But these guys get away with whatever they want, because there is no truth in reporting, except for Fox News. Just think about you lefties, if your boy can shut them down, heck man, they can do anything they want and keep it all hidden from the American people. Is that what you followers really want?

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Berb, do you know who approved the first stimilus? Do you know what was happening with Stock Market prior to Obama taking office? Do you understand that this country was headed towards a depression prior to his being elected? Do you not understand most voted for him, as McCain didn’t have a good understanding of economics. Do you not know the history of regulations? Are you aware of the Savings and Loan debacle in the 80′s during Regans admin? Deregulation caused that crisis and it cost us 286 billion, which we were just paying off in 1999 when we then deregulated the Banking industry. Do you not research any of the economic crisis that this country has experienced?

      • Beberoni says:

        The important thing, is do you understand why things were spiralling downward? Its because business knew a democratic admin was coming in, the writing was all over the wall. Come one man. Shame on the Republicans for trying to run a 150 year old man, that was a career politician, when everyone and their brother knows that we American’s are tired of these career politicians. Business knew whether it be Obama or Clinton, the dems were going to win, because the career politician that was 150 years old didnt have a chance. Sarah Palin would have won, but not McCain. Now, having known this in advance, buddy you better believe business’s tightened up the purse strings, because they are smart. They know when a democratic admin comes into power, taxes get raised on them. They also now know, and had a pretty good idea ahead of time, that the Bush tax cuts are going to be rescinded by the democrats in 2010. Now having said this, they pulled back from hiring, actually started laying guys off to save money to pay these tax monsters that were coming in. Its a fact man. Check with any successful business owner and they will tell you this. Now that they were smart, and knew the dems were going to win, and saved the cash need for the new upcoming hefty tax bills, business is continuing to lay off people, and in 2010 when those tax cuts go, buddy watch out, millions are going to lose their jobs. You all can sit there on your little pedestal and blame Bush all you want, but you are lying to yourselves. If he was still president, none of this would have happened. Your guys have one problem, one big problem facing them, well, actually two. Pretty soon Bush will have been gone too long for them to blame for the dumb things they keep doing, and two, they still dont have a plan. Come on, look at them. They are shooting from the hip, with no aim or plan. Other than blame Bush, they havent shown anything of value yet. Im hearing though, that he watched an NFL football game last week, and they gave him the Heisman Award for this year.

      • Beberoni says:

        And you believed all this doom and gloom the left wing liberal press lies that they used to turn the public to vote for these new buffoons in office. Things werent as bad as you were led to believe. In fact, you think Bill Clinton was so damn great, look at the facts. At Bush’s end, when the press was all doom and gloom, the sky is falling, the economy is in the tank, well, things were better then, than at Clintons apex, you know, that means his highest point. Thats right, check it out. But you and your uneducated ilk, bought into the gossip that the press said, and slandered an innocent man that did one heck of a job in keeping all of us safe. Now look what youve did, and yes, it is all your sides fault for lying about things being bad when they werent, and for going about making things really become bad, and for costing millions of people their jobs.Shame on you.

  59. BABUSHSKA says:

    Kristin: You get it! You are so right. Obama intends to take every
    individual right away that we have. Just like in the book, Animal Farm.
    He is printing money like there is no tomorrow to speed the decline of the dollar. He intends to remove every personal privacy that we have regarding our bank accounts. Obamacare will require the registering of our bank accounts, as well as our guns, we will be required to “volunteer” in a citizen army, we will be selectively rationed with healthcare. It is so very hard to watch this all happening. I grieve for the loss of personal freedoms we are facing and the democratic congress knows exactly what they are doing, and they just plain don’t care.

  60. C.Cannon says:

    The answer is a really simple one. We have become a world of inversion where what used to be considered good is now considered as bad and vice versa. So naturally the baddest of the bad is going to get the Nobel Peace prize!

  61. s c says:

    What’s-his-name, (BHO), got a NPP the same way al [gimme all your money] gore got his. IT WAS GIVEN TO HIM. IT WAS N O T EARNED!
    When 3 of 5 NPP voters had to be ‘persuaded’ that comrade obama had somehow ‘earned’ his cracker jack goodie, then the Swedes are cut from the same rotting, defective cloth as BHO.
    Hand ‘em out at birth! Why waste time with a selection process?
    And, to those of you who voted for this LOSER, damn few of you had the guts to stand up and admit that something is very wrong in Washington. Its name is obama. Grow a spine, and help us rid America of this L O S E R !
    So when can I expect my NPP. I EARNED mine.

    • JeffH says:

      Slight correction, The Norwegian Parliament appoints the Norwegian Nobel Committee, which selects the laureate for the Peace Prize.
      Nominations from 1901 to 1955, however, have been released in a database.[10] When the past nominations were released it was discovered that Adolf Hitler was nominated in 1939 by Erik Brandt, a member of the Swedish Parliament. Brandt retracted the nomination after a few days.[11] Other infamous nominees included Joseph Stalin and Benito Mussolini. However, since nomination requires only support from one qualified person, nominations do not necessarily represent the opinion of the Nobel committee itself.[12]

  62. Sue C. says:

    Chip, you have an intelligent mind, and it is very embarassing, to read this nonsense penned by you.
    President Obama’s Award was not ignoble. It is you white Americans who can’t get over that he is the First Black President, and that good things are happening for him, every turn he takes, because****HE THINKS BEFORE HE ACTS, AND HE IS NOT A RACIST****, regardless of what you idle-minded people think! Why is everything so tainted for the white man? Why can’t you rejoice with him, because he is American, and the win, represents America. You insult God with Bigotry!
    I think the main reason why you do not like his success, is because his total approach to the Presidency has made the white man, with his for 232+ yrs rule, to look like a jerk, that does not know what the hell he is about. The state of our economy is a great example of how white man is stupid!
    Just when I was beginning to think the USA has no one to rule, with wisdom, knowledge, and understanding, God sent President Obama, who is so refreshingly different, and I stand in awe, as I continuously, take a look at this Wonderful President.
    He is “An American President,(white of black/other, ****is irrelevant****), who has the wits to be Savvy, Smart, Stays On Top of Things, and he tries, dilligently to make the most of the negatives/poverty he inherited (from the fuzzy brained, GW Bush, and Satan, Cheney), With the little money that they left in the US Coffers, to make this country, bearable for unemployed people, those who have foreclosed homes, nowhere to stay, and either on welfare food, or no food, and you have the GAUL to say that his NPPA was ignoble?
    Chip, I am not black, and I love all peoples, and wish the best for them, but I have noticed that the main reasons for America’s downfall, into the current pit that it is in, were due to white American’s 100% Pure Bigotry, Prejudice, Covetousness, Favoritism, Greed, Partiality, many Perversions, Disrespect for self, and others, and Property, plus 100% Selfishness.
    You may have a huge house, bread on your table, beautiful clothes, a great job, health insurance coverage, and all the perks that comes with wealth, so you probably do not care about all these things that President Obama has to deal with to help the hurting people of this nation?
    I thought you were a Christian, but I forgot, that in America, there is no such thing! For a true Christian, applies God’s Word, in all situations, especially when you are unable to comprehend all the issues on the table. God’s commanded us to pray for the leader of the land, so that we may all proper, when God Directs him to make superb decisions.
    Chip, I think white Americans need to wake up, and “start living.” So far all you guys have done, is stir up wars, cover up whoredoms, and rapes, done to children, and women, in America, keep the poor on welfare, or you pay us, all other races, little, or next to nothing (and if one is unemployed, the compensation, is “NOTHING”), to keep us down under, while you get to own several types of businesses, all the wealth, all the big houses (and whatever other things all foolish people own down here), and we get to hold the wrong end of the stick.
    How can all these injustices remain standing, in the presence of a just, and fair God, who gives us our rewards, at the appointed time of His Visitation. I am ashamed that you, a fellow American, can take such an “IGNOBLE” stand against one of your fellow Americans, and the whole world is watching how ****STUPID****you really are!!!!! I am so very ashamed to have to write this tough e-mail to you, but look at it this way.
    Faithful are the wounds of a friend, but the kisses of an enemy, are deceitful. (Proverbs 27:6. This is called “Tough Christian Love” Try to do better for your Country, for the whole world sees what we all do, especially when we blast others, falsely. Thank You, and have a good day.

    • Smilee says:

      Sue C. says:
      October 16, 2009 at 11:21 am

      Thanks for such a nice well thought out post, nice to know there are still some people can express themselves without expressing hate

    • ccg says:

      Sue:
      For someone who loves everybody, you sure don’t talk like it.
      I also noticed the one bringing up race is YOU.

      CAN YOU READ ENGLISH???

      It is not his color, it is his ideologies. It is what he is doing to this country. He is a SOCIALIST. He surrounds himself with people with socialistic agendas. Van Jones was an avowed Communist. His school Czar is a Gay man with a Gay agenda. Jarrett is his ‘closest adviser’ and look at her record in Chicago. She is a slum lord. Yeah, that’s really good for the people who need help.

      You quote the Bible, but from your words, its more like you are using the Bible for your own agenda, instead of actually understanding what it says.

      I think Chip did a great job in this piece. He gave us us some good information and spoke my sentiments very eloquently. Thank you Chip!

      • Smilee says:

        You really ought to look in the mirror, if your honest you would have to admit you resemble how you describe Sue more in her image that hers.

      • JeffH says:

        Excerpt from the Will of Alfred Nobel, which dispells your “disrespect” arguement, and lays the direspect on the selection committee instead.

        “The whole of my remaining realizable estate shall be dealt with in the following way: the capital, invested in safe securities by my executors, shall constitute a fund, the interest on which shall be annually distributed in the form of prizes to those who, during the preceding year, shall have conferred the greatest benefit on mankind.”

        http://nobelprize.org/alfred_nobel/will/short_testamente.html

      • Beberoni says:

        Smilee liked what Sue said, but see, thats the problem. The brother has to stick with the sister, whether right or wrong. This causes many problems in this country, especially for black folk. This kind of blind behavior makes it hard on the good guy.

    • Beberoni says:

      Why of course, play the race card. Is all because he is black. Unbelievable. I felt the same way when bozo Al Gore got it. Didnt think nothing about his color. I felt the same way when terrorist Yassir Arafat got it. Didnt think nothing about his color. None of it has to do with color. How in the hell did you dig color into this? Why is it because he is black, and if someone disagrees with something he says, does, or gets, that its racist? You have a race issue, and you need help. Shame on you. But since you brought it up, have you ever given money to a cause, strictly for white people? Oh I forgot, they arent allowed to have causes just for white people, only us blacks are allowed that. Shame on you sister, shame on you. It makes it hard on a fellow when others shamelessly and needlessly play the race card. You make life hard for me. Shame on you.

      • DaveH says:

        Notice that Sue used the phrase “white man” 3 times in her comment. And she’s not a Bigot? This is the kind of crap that makes it hard for people to be color-blind. I feel sorry for the black people who get lumped in with racists like Sue who refuse to recognize their racism.

      • Michael J. says:

        Beberoni, I think that in the future all democratic presidential canidates will claim to be black whether they are or not as result of the sucess that “That One” has enjoyed with the race tactic. Truth is, the black community would have voted for Fred Sanford. They were so happy to get someone, anyone of color into office. Soon they will realize that he is just another politician complete with puppet strings attached. maybe next time they will use their vote for a real leader with parralel views.
        Like they say in Washington, “Somedays you’re the pidgeon and somedays you’re the statue”

      • Beberoni says:

        Nothing again to do with color like the libs like to bring up, but man I loved Fred Sanford. Redd Foxx was one of the funniest comedians Ive ever seen. I loved that guy. I could care less what color he is. The guy was funny as could be. Now my question to the left is, if I didnt like him, would it be because he is black? I get tired of hearing that bull crap. Please, do what Martin Luther King wanted, and that is to judge a man by the content of his character, not the color of his skin. I judge Barack by the lack of content in his character. I could care less what color he is, and those that bring up the race card in here, are racist, because it has nothing, and I repeat, nothing to do with it. Its more his party than him, and they are all colors, so get over yourselves.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Michael, using that theory, us women should have wanted a woman, any woman in office, and guess what, we didn’t want Palin, or Clinton, so that theory is not going to hold water. You do know that the largest voting block in this country is female don’t you? We didn’t lower our standards and I doubt that the blacks did either. By the way, they weren’t a large enough group to put him in office, so you need to look to another direction to find the power. Here’s a hint, it was latins and white females.

      • cr747 says:

        Eyes, I hear you(WORDS REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT), now I know why you voted for him

      • Beberoni says:

        If your interested in facts, I believe it was high 90 percentile of blacks voted for Obama. I guarantee you, that if either Hillary Clinton or Sarah Palin were on the ticket, that not one of them would have garnered an upper 90 percent of the women vote. Women do not just blindly do that, so dont cut them down like that.

    • JeffH says:

      Always the race card. Is it love thy neighbor or love thy car bomber?
      You can’t stop them with love and peace. The terrorists hate you too!

    • Retired Military Couple says:

      The one playing the racist card in these posts is you and it makes me sad. We are not racists, we don’t care what color he is, but we do care what he & his ilk are doing to the country.

    • eyeswideopen says:

      Nicely said. From the tone of your post, I can tell that you shouldn’t be exposed to the predjuice and hateful things expressed on this site. You will be declared a liberal in no time at all and they will then try to take your religious beliefs and throw them in the dirt. This group has not been able to honor the Constitution and seperate State from religion. They think that only Republicans are Christians and that they are the only ones who have the right and know the right thing to do. It was nice to read something from the heart and you sound like what the old Republicans used to sound like. Bless you,.

      • Beberoni says:

        In response to the Republicans/Christian thing, all I have to say about that is, is that if you are telling me your a Christian, any of you, and you vote for killing babies, using tax dollars to kill babies over seas, special rights for homosexuals, and you vote Democrat, they you are guilty of being a hypocrite, because your actions do not match your words. No one who is a Christian can be for these things, and if you say you can, then you do not know your Bible very well. Treat these people well, do not hate them, show them love, but do not approve of the lifestyle, because both are against what the word of God says in the Bible. Dont kill me, Im the messenger, Got a problem with it, take it up with God. Thats all Im saying.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Beberoni, dude when you keep voting for capital punishment, you don’t have a leg to stand on. Christians are not to sit in judgement of each other, that truly is not your job. You can’t be for capital punishment and against abortions, as that is hypocritical.

      • ccg says:

        eyes, Read the Bible. Argue with God. He is the one who demands capital punishment.

      • Beberoni says:

        To eyes and Dee Dee. You do not know your scriptures well. When the Bible says not to judge, it means us believers are not to judge unbelievers. But if a fellow believer is doing something wrong, oh yeah, we are supposed to judge him or her. Its called holding a brother or a sister accountable. You nail them to the wall for it, and hold them to the higher standard. For you state what you stated, you do not understand what the Good Word says. Yes, we are to hold each other accountable. But I am not to judge a non believer, but I should give them advice on the right way to go. I should in no way tell them they are going to hell for whatever they may be doing, as many so called Christians do. Because Ill tell you, no one, I repeat no one goes to hell for things they do. They go for that one little thing they didnt do. Thats all I got.

      • Beberoni says:

        Really. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth? Eh? And what about in the end of it all, when those who reject God, are sent away to a place where He never will bother them again? I think that will be a major capital punishment. Its called the Lake of Fire.

      • Dee D says:

        Beber – Just maybe the truth here is JUDGE NOT LEST YOU BE JUDGED.

      • Beberoni says:

        It says that same measure of judgment will be used against you. So if Im going around doing things to benefit myself, and harm millions of others, I sure hope some judgment comes down on me, because its wrong.

  63. Dale Hogue says:

    I loved reading the comments. Some of you expressed your passion very well. Others did so intelligently. Still others spent more space being critical of the comments that were written by people with whom they did not agree. I’m sure that the name calling seemed somewhat appropriate when they were added to the remarks being written! However, I don’t think they added much to the interpretation and understanding of the facts being discussed. Obama deserves the ridicule he is receiving along with his Nobel Prize simply because he doesn’t fully understand the written instructions that come with the job he now holds. In short, he is not as experienced as he should be, nor as smart as he and his political supporters believe he is. He does meet the typical Democratic Party standard and competency requirements set forth by those who select that Party’s nominee for President of the United States — he has the skill to fool some of the people all the time and most of the people some of the time. And that’s the skill which is most necessary when it comes to fooling all of those people whose votes are necessary to electing a ultra-liberal progressive to that high office. In Obama’s case, he is less offensive than was Gore and that Vietnam War Kerry guy who wrote himself up to receive medals for action that (may or may not have) taken place — as he reported it — during the short period of time he spent in the war zone. And Obama never drowned a young lady because he was too much of coward to save her after he drove her car off a bridge into a creek filled with water. And Obama appeared to be a great deal smarter than the Pea Nut farmer from Georgia. And Obama was not as big of an egomaniac as the guy who became President when JFK was assassinated in Dallas in 1963. Obama read speeches written by other people in such a way that it caused chills to run up the legs of many members of the Main Stream Media. Did he deserve the Nobel Peace Prize? No, he didn’t deserve it — at least in the opinion of those who are intelligent enough to fully understand how prizes of this nature should be awarded. According to the blogs written on this page, has Obama become a laughing stock? It depends on what one means by “laughing stock” and the mind set of the writers
    who have taken the time to write their thoughts on this page.

    • JeffH says:

      Your obsevations and comments are pretty much spot on!

    • eyeswideopen says:

      Oh can you berate someone who didn’t seek out an award? He didn’t put his name in the ring. This is typical of the rt. you degrade him when another group bestowed a honor. So, if he didn’t deserve it, it was an error made by the committee. He had nothing to do with it. But somehow, you people make it out to be that he coveted the prize and fixed the results to aquire the prize. Pathetic, all of you.

      • Beberoni says:

        All of you libs that are glad he won it, and are slamming us who have provided proof of him not deserving it, and not one of you has yet stepped up and stated one fact as to something he has accomplished to deserve this award. Not one thing from one of you. His thoughts dont matter, his intentions dont matter, this award is for accomplishment, so please, one of you tell me what he has done. Im waiting, still. Oh, and remember, anything he did, had to be within the first two weeks of his presidency, because it was allready decided at that point that he was getting it. So please, deliver me some proof that he did something great to deserve this, and I will gladly shut my mouth and quit telling the truth about him.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Beber, his was nominated, the first two weeks, the final vote didn’t happen until Aug. Are you just crazy? Your hate runs deep and that is sad.

      • Beberoni says:

        No sister, no hate here. None at all. I just dont see the righteousness of nominating someone as you say, for something you might think they could do, or may do, but havent done nothing yet. Kind of like when hollywood nominates the leading actor for an oscar, well Ill tell you, they do not nominate, say Brad Pitt for an Oscar, if he hasnt made a movie that year, but they think he might and they think it might be good. No, sorry, it doesnt and shouldnt work that way. If the guy had done, or does something good to deserve it , I would not begrudge him that. But again, this is ridiculous because he still has not produced any results even coming near doing something to even merit a nomination for this award. Im looking, but dear I just dont see it. No one is talking peace with him. No one is acting like they are for peace. In fact, they are stepping up their attacks even more as they now know we wont be as agressive as we were when the Republicans were slapping them back. Again, Im sorry we dont see eye to eye on this, and your angry about it, but I deal in facts, and they arent there. Thats all.

  64. Norma says:

    All of you who make fun of Jesus Christ are sick puppies and better prepare for Hell,because the time is short. Can’t you see the signs?The time is clearly at hand. Look how the times are changing and our country is in such financial chaos and going downhill more every day.The Father is angry! Wake up people, before it’s too late!Even the weather is against us.All these natural disasters just started. This Heathen who calls himself president,is clearly the Anti-Christ.God Save America!

    • Beberoni says:

      Norma, Im a Christian, and Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. But Im telling you Obama is not the anti-christ. I know, because my Bible tells me as a believer, that when this anti-christ comes, I will recognize him, and he is not him. He may be one of the false prophets, as they are all around and have been amongst us for years. But the anti-christ, no, not this one. Im sure of it. For one, he is not nearly charismatic enough, and two he is not the great peacemaker, as he has angered millions of people. The anti-christ will sooth all, and be a great peacemaker, fooling millions, even the elect if possible. But Obama, no, rest assured, he is just another faulty human being.

    • JeffH says:

      Wake up from your deep sleep. No one is making fun of Jesus Christ!

    • JeffH says:

      And the sky is falling

  65. Claire says:

    Chip Wood is like Limbaugh–blames everyone else for their own shortcomings. Wood will eventually shoot himself in the foot and get caught in some stupid gaffe just like Limbaugh. Limbaugh is blaming everyone else for his well-deserved defeat. Limbaugh seems to believe his evil mouth is appreciated by all Americans. Well, all Americans are not on the Limbaugh train that goes to nowhere. I wonder how Limbaugh feels, knowing he is not the “leader” he thought he was. Hope he feels rotten, but as I said, he will only blame someone else for his miserable existence. What goes around comes around.

    • JeffH says:

      And what has your commentary accomplished? Nothing! It is your opinion that Limbaugh is a clutz! It is my opinion that Obama is a clutz! I bet more people think Obama is a bigger clutz than Limbaugh!
      After all of that, I pretty much said nothing.

      • JeffH says:

        A…and you said ???nothing!

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Jeff, using that theory, what has any of these comments accomplished? Nothing, including all of yours. Yours tend to incite the good old boys and the smack talking rolls on, mine do the same thing. So why would you attack her with that arguement? hypo comes to mind.

  66. MARY says:

    HEY HE WENT TO AN NFL GAME AND HAS WON THE HEISMAN TROPHY!S

  67. Dave says:

    Three cheers for the Nobel committee. We sure won’t see our previous loser president winning anything besides dunce award.

    • Beberoni says:

      He has won my respect, and millions of Americans respect. And his college credentials are real, and he can produce a birth certificate to prove it. And he doesnt hang out with racist preachers, or known terrorists, or other Chicago thugs. Yeah, its kind of like that. Heck, I can have my friends give me an award for Genius of the Year, but does it really mean I am? Same thing has happened here, you just dont recognize the truth of it.

  68. Mogan says:

    People always get the government that they deserve. There is a double standard in Congress and there is a double standard among the population.

    You have members in Congress that believe that the government should not be in healthcare but not a single one of them argues that we should get rid of Medicare and Medicaid. They talk about the United States becomes socialist, but that is Social Security, Medicare, VA system, and public education. So, let’s get rid of all of them. If you can’t afford your medical bills, don’t ask the government to help you out. If you lose your job, don’t ask the government to help you while you are finding another one. If you can’t afford it, don’t whine. Turn away anyone who can’t afford the ER. If they can’t afford it, then they are a burden to society, best for them to die. As for the insurance companies, their goal is to make a profit and if that means a lot of people can’t afford health insurance, so what? There’s a lot of things that I can’t afford.

    Don’t ask for public education because that is not mentioned in the Constitution and the whole thing of forcing our children into the public school system is dictatorial. Wouldn’t the private sector be better if we shut down the public school systems and state university systems – think of the money that the government would save by getting rid of all of those government employees. We would simply pay tuition for our children to go to the school of our choice, just like choosing a college and paying for it. And if we do that, then we could get rid of the US Department of Education. Think how much money the states would save if they didn’t have to set aside money for schools from K to 12 and state colleges and universities.

    States should make it illegal to make us buy automobile insurance. They have taken away our freedom of choice or nonchoice by demanding that we have auto insurance. If we are in accident, we should just take that to court and sue the other drive.

    • Average Joe says:

      Mogan,
      Very well stated, too bad more people “get it”.

    • eyeswideopen says:

      Mogan, the reason for public schools, is that the rich were monopolizing the courts, business, government and churches.It was the people who requested equal education for their children. It is the states who hold the power over the education system, or haven’t you noticed that we don’t have a national school system with standardized regulations and requirements? Blame your state for the laws requiring children to attend and for the education level each child acheives. The federal government does not govern or set the standards for the education system. They have appropiated funds for the GI Bill in 1944 to assist our GI’s. But it was not mandatory for anyone to attend college. You need to review the history of the public schools prior to slaming the Federal Government. You and your cohorts in your state are responsible for education and the laws governing your local system.

  69. Timothy says:

    There should be a Dumbell Full of **** Prize and give that to Obama!!

  70. Claire says:

    Here’s a thought–what if the government did NOT bail out the banks, (the shocking CEO bonuses) AIG, and others last year like they did and instead gave every homeowner/renter $ 150,000.00??? The average person would have paid off their home mortgage (maybe) and then the consumers would have money to spend to put back into the economy. I know this sounds silly but it may have worked!

    • Emmanuel Sapel, OH says:

      Claire, that will be called INFLATION or INFLATIONARY SPIRAL. And for all others bashing a 54% – majority elected president of the USA, it is time to accept the fact that he is president. I think the RIGHT really needs to be thankful that BHO is the president. Given the job for free I would not even take it. The guy is spending sleepless nights just trying to fix the mess that was handed to him by the RIGHT. How quickly we forget! We forget that unlike the Bush administration handed a great USA with a budget surplus, the right decided to squander everything. Its like starting a new business, one has to invest – run a deficit for the business to grow and payback in the future morons. The president was handed a budget deficit, two wars, an immigration problem, a growing health-care crisis, an uncompetitive educational system, a nation that tortures its “suspects” without proving them guilty simply because it can, one whose vice president took upon himself to re-write the constitution, a nation hated by almost every other country in the world for its stupid unthoughtful international diplomacy, an Arab Isreali, Isreal-Palestinian crisis, refused to talk to Iran and Iran went – almost nuclear, if not nuclear and stupid policy with North Korea and Pakistan, refused to regulate its extremists capitalists and they almost broad down the world economic structure….I can go on and on but I am sure we’ve all got the point by now. Now our new president has to spend all of his time and energy going grey just mending fences and trying to get some sense into these ideologues. You all need some independent thinking and stop listening to Roch Limbaugh or whatever his name is – and his likes who are getting paid to make you all stupid!

      • Beberoni says:

        I accept that he won the election fair and square as president. And you need to accept that as president, he has been an utter failure, a loser, an inexperienced politician that has weakened us in the eyes of our enemies, has destroyed our economy, and made millions of people lose their jobs, and when he cancels Bush’s tax cuts in 2010, millions more are going to lose their jobs. Meanwhile, while his admin keeps making bad decision after bad decision, blind followers like you keep blaming it on Bush. Get real.

      • JeffH says:

        …call it an 8 year memory fixation.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Did those tax cuts affect you? I seriously doubt that you are in the one percent of the rich in this country. Wouldn’t it be nice to have money to equip our troops with up to date armour and fire arms? First time in the history of this country that a President made tax cuts and then declared war. Just read up on the history of taxes and you will see that Bush should have repealed those cuts, and lives would have been saved. How do you justify a bill for Medicare which is costing 1.1 trillion dollars that was not funded, and passed on to the present admin as economically feasible? Do you just ignore the tremendous deficit left by Bush? The unfunded war, Medicare and tax cuts put this country right in the path of a depression when combined with the non-regulated genius’ on Wall Street. What part of history don’t you understand?

      • ccg says:

        So, Obama’s idea is to put us in more debt, by making an even bigger debt for our society and children to pay for.
        And that makes sense????

      • Beberoni says:

        Yes those tax cuts benefitted many, as I seen 30 new hires here where I work, and seriously pal, none of them were rich. Millions other around the country got hired because of these tax cuts. Millions. Barack and his ilk have cost them all their jobs with his new taxes, his threat of socialized medicine which will cost business more, and with his announcement of killing the tax cuts in 2010, millions more will pay with their jobs. You believe this “rich” bull they tell you huh? My employer employs 60 guys now, was 100 before Obama came in. We do around 16 million in business a year, to make 100 thousand dollars profit, which gets shared by the employees. To the Democrats, we are considered a rich company, and we should pay for our sucess. Yet losers like GM and Chrysler, who lose their butts because they dont know how to properly run a business, get rewarded for failure. This is the problem I have with your liberal democrats. Punish success, reward failure. This is what they do, and its bad for business, bad for the enonomy. And if you want the facts, the state of the economy when Bush left office, was actually much much better than it was at the heighth of Bill Clinton’s presidency, when you lefties glowed about how great he was. Look at it and check it out. When your left wing liberal media was reporting the economy was in the tank, it was still better on all levels than it was at Clinton’s high point. Bush low point of employment, was higher than Clintons highest. Isnt it funny how public perception gets changed when the media has an agenda to push? They kept telling America we needed a democrat as president, and now, shoot man, look whats happened, and it is getting worse, allthough this same left wing liberal media is trying to tell us the recession is over and jobs are being created, yet jobless claims keep going up , and things are still getting worse. Wait until the tax cuts expire in 2010, and watch the unemployment lines get longer. Gonna blame that on Bush too? Get real.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Beber, now I am totally sure that you don’t have a Ph.D.

  71. Larry says:

    Thank you for the verification. When I heard that Obama received the award, my first thought was that it was rigged.

  72. Steve Schreiber says:

    OK this is taking rationalization to the projectile vomiting level.. Ya’all a bunch of whiny loser morons and I’ll leave that with an unsubscribe to personalliberty.com.

  73. hugh hunter says:

    to me, it looks the np committee can be bought, i would like to how much i would have to pay to get one of those trophies.

    • Average Joe says:

      Just go to a trophy supply and get a cheap copy…that;s what they did…get it inscribed any way you choose too….lol

  74. Claire says:

    Emmanuel: I agree with everything you have said. My last message was just a random thought. And I AM proud he won the Nobel Peace Prize. Obama does have a mess to deal with and I have to say I am happy he was elected President. Now we need to get off his back and support him.

  75. Claire says:

    Beberoni:

    TThe garbage you spew was created in the Bush administration–YOU get real!

  76. Norma says:

    To Mogan’ Who do you think you are, Mrs Obamna .Lrt the ones who can’t afford health care die?What if yoy spent your life in the military’ as my husband did,and they turned you away saying you don’t deserve to live?You’re sick in the head.My david gave our country 50 years and he deserved a gold medal,not a kick in the teeth like you’re saying.Who would go over there and keep you safe if not for men and women like my husband and son-in-law who died for you and our country,you money hungry idiot?

  77. Mike says:

    Several weeks ago I was having a converation with my girl friend about Barack’s attempts at taking over portions of the auto industry, his socialist agenda on health care, and his vicious attacks against those who speak out against his policies. The whole direction of the conversation started to have a familiar ring to it. At that moment a light went on in my head. I picked up my Webtser’s new twentieth century Dictionary of the English Language.
    For those of you astute enough to be following my drift. you will not be shocked with the word I looked up.

    FASCISM!

    • Normal Guy says:

      Mike

      I don’t know where you got your dictionary but here is the definition from Webster. You will note nothing about socialism, nothing about taking over industry – right-wing ignorance on display.

      “a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.”

      If you think that this defines what is happening in the US – take the red pill because you are living in a fantasy.

      • Mike says:

        Wow! Are you living under a blanket?

      • Beberoni says:

        Fact of the matter is, is your a (WORDS REMOVED). You see, your not no (WORDS REMOVED). You are a left wing pacifist appeasing (WORDS REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT) democrat, and dude, that aint normal, so go away, curl back up into the fetal position, and (WORDS REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT).

      • Normal Guy says:

        B

        Love guys like you – so blindingly stupid and delusional that the general public gets a clear view of the hideous right wing extremists. It assures us that the “religous right” is shown for ther vile twisted psycho’s that you are. The neo-con’s destroyed the financial foundation of this country – when people hear idiots like you, and your frearless leaders Fatty, Crybaby and insanitty, they will get tired of the ignorance and that assures that your guys won’t get in again for a long time.

        You talk about God like you are a true believer, come judgement day the evil little ball of hate that you are will determine your fate. Burn baby burn.

      • Beberoni says:

        Well, my God does allow for righteous anger, and Im sure He wants me to be angry when I see your party killing innocent babies in the womb, and even furthering it by using our tax money to kill them overseas now. Im really sure He wants me to be angry when He sees your party trying to force down the public’s throat that its ok to have sex with the same sex. Sorry Pal, as a Christian, I have to believe Gods word when He clearly says “For a man to lie with another man as he would a woman, is an abomination to the Lord”. Im pretty sure that means we shouldnt be doing that, let alone trying to indoctrinate our youth that this behavior is ok. Damn right I get angry about it, and If I didnt, well then something would be extremely wrong with me, for I would be a pacifist appeaser, and thats not what God created me to be. Sorry Pal. Unlike you, I dont want any to burn, some will, some wont, but you want everyone that doesnt think like you to burn, and not only that, it seems your convinced of it. I mean, people in glass houses shouldnt throw stones there pal, know what I mean? Let you without sin throw the first stone.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Beber, when are you going to not support capital punishment? Come on, be a real Christian and stop the killing.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Normal, don’t bother giving him the actual quote as he won’t understand it anyway. To him mankind would mean gay men. lol

      • Beberoni says:

        I said pants wetting, and that what they removed as offensive. I dont know why, but thats all I said there.

      • Beberoni says:

        Note to eyes, I will always support capital punishment. I just dont believe in this injection and go to sleep thing. I think they need to die in the same time frame and same way that their victims died. Thats what I want. An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth. Ive got no problem with that at all. Its a good thing.

    • JeffH says:

      so·cial·ism \’sō-shə-”liz-əm\ n : any of various social systems based on shared or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
      — so·cial·ist \’sōsh-(ə-)ləst\ n
      — socialist orso·cial·is·tic \”sō-shə-’lis-tik\ adj
      — so·cial·is·ti·cal·ly \-ti-k(ə-)lē\ adv

      fas·cism [ fá shìzzəm ] or Fas·cism [ fá shìzzəm ]
      Definition: dictatorial movement: any movement, ideology, or attitude that favors dictatorial government, centralized control of private enterprise, repression of all opposition, and extreme nationalism

      • JeffH says:

        Yes, there is a movement in government that embraces both of these.

      • Normal Guy says:

        JeffH

        So there is a socialist, fascist movement going on in the United States that we should all fear. Now let me get this right, I have been following the right wing extremist arguments and want to define what you are talking about.

        First, government has been destroying the country and the constitution for about a hundred years.

        Second, in the last seven months Obama has destroyed the economy and done nothing but all the awful things that he is doing must be stopped???

        Third, right wing fringe fanatics are convinced that the world is coming to an end and everyone needs to buy gold, guns and bullets to protect themselves from other Americans.

        Forth, communist fascism is coming and the global conspirators, big business guys like Soros and the Rothschild’s are behind it even though they are ultra capitalists because they want a global government that will allow them to subjugate mankind…

        You people are bats**t crazy.

      • JeffH says:

        Yep, I believe it and I have lots of guns and plenty of ammo. I do hunt and target shoot alot, so I must buy more of everything. Scares the heck out of you doesn’t it? Don’t worry though, I will never pull down on someone unless my life is threatened, but believe me, I will protect myself and my loved ones by whatever means necessary.

      • JeffH says:

        Oh, I do question whether you are an American?

      • eyeswideopen says:

        LMAO< Hand clapping, LOL again.

      • Normal Guy says:

        You know there were survivalists all through the cold war that bought ammo to keep them safe from the red hoards that were going to invade and destroy us all. I was in university for business was very aware of the idiocy of MAD (mutual assured destruction). It was clear that conventional war was not the issue. Red Dawn was just a paranoid delusion. The idea that there is an evil conspiracy that is going to take us to a Mad Max world is ridiculous.

        Guns don’t scare me at all. Weak-minded paranoids with guns worry me because feelings of inadequacy tends to lead to acts of violence sand even a weakling with a weapon is dangerous, lookm at the assasins that have committed such heinous acts just since Kennedy.

        In the fifties all the paranoid morons allowed monstrous injustices to be committed by McCarthy and company. Today this ultra right wing paranoia is catering to the same irrational fears. You are pitiful.

      • JeffH says:

        You obviously need to get out of the house once in awhile. Being cooped up in a tiny cubicle, watching MSNBC and reading The Washington Post has deadened your senses. You haven’t a clue about anything except your own, self inflicted paranoia. Get out and get some fresh air, it stimulates the senses. God only knows you need it!

      • Michael J. says:

        NG, I get it now. While you were at university you swallowed everything that your gay liberal commie, America hating college professor shoved down your throat (so to speak). That’s the problem, victims of indoctrination don’t even know they have been victimized. In the future it will be refered to as “The Legacy of Liberalism”. Social engineering gone sour. Who knew that when you took the bible, disipline and the teaching of a moral compass out of education that you would have situations come about like the Columbine massacre where children that had lost there way indulged in such heinous crimes because they had been given anti depressant drugs at an early age instead of parents and teachers dealing with their real problem of feeling alone? That since these things were no longer taught at home or in the classroom that law enforcement and penal institutions would necessarily become the tutors at the expense of us all.

      • Normal Guy says:

        Michael J

        Clearly you have no education. Ignorance is bliss, no need to learn just make it up or accept what the zealots tell you.

        It always fascinates me to hear people talk about what they clearly no nothing about. I guess when you just keep failing that it must make you pretty angry, its not that you are stupid its just the liberal education system ganging up on you.

        All the morons on this site going on about our “liberal” educational system, as I have said before where was your nimble intellect honed? One dimensional, simplistic idiots with simple talking points with all the answers about how to solve America’s problems. Go read a book, dope.

      • Beberoni says:

        Oh, someday around here, there will be that day, when the streets are wild again, and all you democrat pacifists will be crying for us gun caring Republicans to protect and save you. Kind of like the French are today.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Beber, Dem’s own guys too. But it is cute that you want to be the saviors, just like Glenn Beck, he wants to be the Mormon savior of the apocalptic world that Joseph Smith is predicting.

  78. Frederick H says:

    Well folks that Bush moron pushed us into a war in Afghanistan that’s absolutely impossible to win THE TALIBAN ARE TOTALLY INVINCIBLE. The British have experienced this, the Russians have tasted bitter dust and had to leave that wretched country with their tails stuck between their legs. And guess what. The “Greatest Leader on earth” our own power hungry G.W. Bushy thinks he’s going to bring peace in the Middle East and defeat those Tali terrorists by invading their country. And look now, the only result we can put to our nation’s name is thousands of body bags. Laughing stock. And you say Obama has accomplished nothing. Let me remind you that he’s the first president ever who’s going to succeed in bringing affordable health insurance to all and sundry. He’s reinstated stem cell research, he’s going our of his way to make the Copenhagen Conference on Climate Change a full success. A program is in the making to rid this planet of nuclear weapons, at last. He’s promoting the manufacturing of cleaner, more environment friendly cars, which, by the way, have been produced in Europe and Japan for years already. So, all those conservatives who still seem to living somewhere in the 1950s should be fully ashamed of themselves, trying to sabotage every positive move the President makes. Now, tell me, what has GW Bush accomplished during all those EIGHT YEARS? Yes, EIGHT YEARS. Well, yes he kicked Saddam out of office. But do the Iraqi sods fare any better? Millions of them still have no clean water, electricity or decent health care facilities. Sunni and Shiite groups are still slashing each other’s throats day by day. The position of women and other minority groups is as deplorable as ever. Corruption is absolutely rampant, as it is in Afghanistan as well. Bush has not done a single thing to curb corruption or discrimination in that joke of a country. No, no, no. The Republicans have nothing whatsoever to show for themselves. They should be quiet as the grave.

    • JeffH says:

      You had your 8 year kick. Tell us about the last 10 months along with all of the great accomplishments of the Big O, except for throwing Gen. McChrystal under the bus! UH MMM OHH MMM UHH.
      And allowing politics to enter the classroom. BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA! MMM MMM MMM!

      • Frederick H says:

        That’s really very intelligent Jeff, to compare NINE MONTHS (Not ten as you erroneously indicate) to EIGHT YEARS INDEED. Nine months within which the right wing media such as Fox News and Newsmax and several of their cronies have gone out of their way to slam and slander the President in whichever way they could. Besides, I would like to know whomever would be able to get such an enormously complex reform program as the health care bill smoothly through Congress within a time-span of barely nine to ten months. The Republicans could have tried their hand at settling the score eight years ago already. But they did noting, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to improve the health care situation in this country (where young people are dying day by day, just because the insurance companies refuse to cover special treatment expenses!!!). And now that President Obama is working the nails off his hands to get things settled once and for all, you conservatives start screaming that he’s trying to push us into a “socialist type of administrative culture”. Well, how can you accomplish anything significant when you’re being constantly sabotaged by your political adversaries and have to deal with pure hysteria and paranoia from folk under the spell of ultra right wing media pundits such as Glenn Beck and Bill O’Reilly? If Bush had had to deal with this same type of $#ite during the months he was preparing his Holy Wars against the Afghan and Iraqi People, perhaps we would have been spared the thousands of Body Bags transported to the US and would have been able to keep many trillions of precious dollars in our own pockets.

        Furthermore, Jeff, you can’t force sovereign leaders to the conference table and coerce them to act with reason and dignity in order to solve problems that have existed for SIX DECADES already. Mr. Bibi Netanyahu has his own obsessive fascist agenda and won’t listen to anybody with a critical attitude towards his policies. So, what should Obama do? Send in a few CIA hyenas to capture Bibi and treat him to a few of their special torture methods (including a couple of fine brainwash recordings), so he’ll finally get to his senses? Come on man, Condoleeza Rice has been on and off roundtrip planes to the Middle East for all of those wretched four years and what has she accomplished (in God Bush’s name)? Yes? Nada, nothing at all. And the whole charade cost us thousands upon thousands if not millions of dollars, once again.

        It’s not Obama’s alleged incompetence that’s the problem here Jeff, it’s the total irrationality and peculiar bias of a substantial part of the American Electorate (and hysterical spitefulness of Republican politicians) in regard t this particular President, that’s the real bottleneck here. They want him to, no, they pray for him to fail, so in their eyes he’s already laid out in a casket, because within the time-span of Nine Months he’s not been able to dish out Huge Tax Cuts or Wipe Out the Taliban once and for all. Jeez, what’s up there under that scull of yours? Sand, mud???

      • eyeswideopen says:

        CLAP, CLAP, CLAP. Interesting that they expect immediate results for issues that have been brewing for 8-10 years. Nobody ever claimed he was a miracle worker, except the right seems to think that you can have illegal and immoral business dealing for 8 years and then just come in and in three months stop the decline, reverse it and make us profitable or you are a socialist working against the public. All of this hate should be directed towards Wall Street and the Congressmen who voted for deregulation in 1999. No! let’s not hold those responible for the mess accountable, why do that? Let’s just blame a President who is different and that we are afraid of for all the problems accumalated during the past admin. Why? because we are irrational, that’s why!!!

      • Beberoni says:

        Oh my gosh!. You said the right wing media? Are you nuts. Left wing radical media propaganda networks of ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and MSNBC, and then there is Fox News, which is one, I repeat, one station that reports the truth, and you say right wing media? Are you stinking nuts? The media is and always has been left wing biased, except Fox News, which actually lets guys on the left come on and give their opinions. The others dont do that. So sir, you are in error.

    • Beberoni says:

      Sorry, but your democrat congress voted for this. Your democrats, Bill Clinton, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, Howard Dean, everyone of them, said we had to do this. And they were right, but since your liberal media has damned this thing to the American public, they now back away like they had nothing to do with it. Hypocrites.

  79. JJ says:

    Support what??? The fact that the value of my home has decreased? That my retirement savings has decreased? That two sons have lost their jobs in the automotive industry? That our country is in so much debt there is no hope of digging our way out? Or, maybe, that no one in this country (or our children, grandchildren) will be able to live the American life we have all worked for? Yes, he does have a “mess to deal with,” one that has been compounded several times over by his ridiculous knee-jerk reactions to hasten us into socialism. Support him, you say? The only thing about Obama I would support is a call for his Impeachment!!! The sooner the better!!

    • eyeswideopen says:

      JJ, If you can’t see the reason why these things happened then you must have either had your head in the sand, or you didn’t pay attention to the policies or politics of the two past administrations. A small history lesson will allow you to put the blame at the feet of the guilty and not just the easiest one to dump on now. Just go back and review the Tax cuts, Medicare Bill, and the war costs and you will get an idea of what happened to this country.

      • Beberoni says:

        Let me tell you the truth, just so you will know, and all reading this rest assured. When a Republican or Independant takes office in 2012, within 2 year they will have the economy rolling, because with the left wing tax monsters put away, business will once again invest in themselves and start building and hiring workers, once the threat of new bigger taxes goes away. Watch and see. It happens everytime.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Well at that time hopefully this country will be back on the right track. It will take years to recover from the fiscal crap that happened during the past 10 years. So after we are back on our feet, you want to swoop in and claim the credit for the recovery? that is just like you people, take no responsibility for anything bad, but after it has been fixed, claim credit. Listen dude, we still have to get the regulations going for wall street prior to any real recovery happening. The have alread gone back to the same old policies and have made back the entire loss made during the crash. Doesn’t that tell you something? It took many years to go from 6200 on the stock market to over 10,000, yet we had a loss during the past year of huge proportions and look, in less that 8 months we are back over 10,000. How can that be? Another bubble waiting to burst. We are idiots to not see that nothing has changed.

      • Beberoni says:

        I agree with that. Another reason not to put our “faith” in the stock market or money, as many seem to do.

      • Beberoni says:

        No, you misunderstand. It will take a long hard 2 years to clean up this mess of not knowing what to do that these thugs have done. After the two years of making the right moves, and you seem to under estimate that business’s know that the republicans or the independants arent going to tax them to death, and they will immediately start taking steps to become productive again, ie spending money on equipment, expansion and new jobs, because they know they arent going to be squeezed for tax dollars anymore. Big difference. If your side would ever quit demonizing these business’s that make this country roll, they might be successful. But I guess what I dont understand about it all, is how the UAW can be so dumb to vote for these guys, when they crush business all the time. Even though they just made sure they have future UAW votes with the billions of dollars they just gave them, they will tax the crap out of GM and Chrysler if they ever get going again. I dont think they will, as the greedy suckers want more money allready. Unreal, I know, but only if your interested in the truth.

  80. Claire says:

    Norma:

    I appreciate and respect what you have said. My best friend’s son was killed in Iraq two years ago. She and her husband are still grieving-it is a terrible loss. They will never get over it. I firmly believe the veterans and all soldiers that have served our country should receive the best of care when they get home because they have given the ultimate sacrifice for America. My son is in the Air Guard and almost went to Desert Storm. I sure can remember how my husband and I felt at the time. It was like it happened yesterday. We did not want him to go, but he was ready to go. And as it turned out, they did not send all of the 183rd Air Guard unit. God bless all our soldiers and men/women in uniform.

  81. Claire says:

    JJ:

    Blame this mess on the past 8 years of the BUSH ADMINISTRATION, not Obama. He can’t work miracles overnight, you fool. It will take years to get out of this mess because it took years to get in it. Bush is the one that should have been impeached!!!

    • Beberoni says:

      Well Claire, all I can say is this. Im thankful Mr. Bush took the fight to these guys. Bill Clinton sat there when they bombed the basement of the World Trade Centers the first time, and did nothing. Bill Clinton sat there when they blew up the USS Cole, and did nothing. Bill Clinton sat there while they drug our deal soldiers naked through the streets of Somalia, beating them. You hear me, he did nothing. They were attacking us way back then. Bill Clinton was more interested in cheating on his wife then protecting our country, and that is why this mess of terrorists is where its at, because he chose to let them grow and get organized. Mr. Bush stepped on them and squished them like a grape, and now your boys want to back off and let them get strong again. Imagine if we hadnt interceded against Hitler when we did. Holy crap man, can you imagine? Had not Bush been a real man and stepped up, you would be speaking Arabic in about 10 years, and wearing a burka out in public, and your husband could legally kill you for talking, or looking in the direction of another man. You just dont get it. Its like talking to a wall.

  82. JJ says:

    I didn’t say Bush was a genius. I’m neither Republican nor Democrat–I’m a Patriot! I believe in a free democracy, as the one created by our forefathers. At this point, that idea is going down hill much faster than (if ever) it will become a reality. But until people remove their blinders and get their heads out of the sand, we are all doomed by the unConstitutional actions of the man currently in the White House. Socialism, Marxism, and Communism are modeling his actions with no consideration of what this country is supposed to stand for. If you like that kind of life–find a country who will welcome your ideals and leave America for those of us who love(d) it!

    • Emmanuel Sapel says:

      Claire, I couldn’t agree more with your assessment and I think that Norma you need to read Mogan’s write up again. I think your choosing to read with understanding is a part of the right’s problem. Let me try to break down some of this whole socialist and communist fantasy that is in the head of the extreme rights in very simple terms. Bush send the economy in shackles – understood? This impacted the auto industry tremendously. If the Obama administration ignored a 1 million personnel employer, it would eventually cost the economy a longer time to recover and more miserable families which would impact many other sectors of the economy. Still there with me? Which will you prefer, borrowing money and taking control to solve the problem or letting the problem get worst and more families becoming homeless, more homes foreclosed on, more emergency room visits made…and if more of these millions of people can buy, companies can’t make more stuff and would also have to lay off their own employees and the problem would only get worst. I understand Righties have no conscience until the problem directly impacts them. Still there with me. Now take banks, banks are the ones that lend to buy houses, pay for school and credit cards and fund small businesses. If they can’t do these things, just imagine! Did I loose the righties without brains yet? So someone with large resources like the government has to step in to stimulate this shortfall! I mean fill this gap – Ignorant right! Call the president a socialist because he called for a single payer system in health care? What is wrong with the police department – isn’t that socialism, stop going to your mail box when the USPS delivers mails because that is socialism, stop using the library because that is socialism, go out and protest the fire department because that is socialism, do not sent your kids to school K-12 because that is socialism, do not call 911 because that is socialism…does all this make sense to the block headed rights? I am not a democrat either, this is just commonsense and needs not political demagogy or or juxtaposing, republicans need to go back to kindergarten to take a course called COMMONSENSE!.

    • eyeswideopen says:

      What unconstitutional actions? What impeachable offenses? Don’t you think that the Rt. has enough intelligent lawyers that are researching on a daily basis, trying to find something, anything to be able and go forward with impeachment? Never in the history of this country have so many called for impeachment with no basis. What do you think that could mean? I think you know.

  83. Claire says:

    This country stands for policies that help the needy, the underprivileged citizens. Since President Obama wants to help these individuals, he is trying to curtail the Republican-led health care system’s problems so 30-40 million Americans can have health care. Bush got us into the war with Iraq, and now Afghanistan, Iran, and Pakistan are in turmoil. Bush opened up a can of worms and for what—Cheney’s Haliburton BS, Blackwater, and oil. Medicare, Social Security are government-ran programs, without them our parents could not survive. These programs are what you call Socialism. Are these programs bad for America? No. You are the one that should get his head out of the sand. I am a Patriot. I do not believe that our President should be compared to Communism or Marxism. If you are a true patriot, where is your loyalty to America? Maybe you should leave.

    • JeffH says:

      Claire, you are one blithering idiot! Medicare, Social Security are government-run with specific taxpayer contributions. The reason there are problems with SS and Medicare is because government got greedy in the first place.
      Medicare is partially financed by payroll taxes imposed by the Federal Insurance Contributions Act (FICA) and the Self-Employment Contributions Act of 1954.

      Social Security’s ability to make full payments once annual benefits exceed revenues depends in part on the federal government’s ability to make good on the bonds that it has issued to the Social Security trust funds. The federal government’s ability to repay Social Security, in turn, is contingent on fiscal policies taken today (which have tended to increase deficits and the percent of the budget spent on interest and principal payments) and in the future.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        jeff, you are wrong, the reason there is problems with Medicare is the Advantage Bill, which was unfunded to the tune of 1.1 trillion, yes trillion dollars. Do your research before you spout off. Find me the funding for the bill, and you will be a hero… There isn’t any funding, only a deficit passed on the the next administration. So, yes, us tax payers who are funding it now, who won’t get any payouts when it goes bankrupt are not too happy with the situtation. You should be worried also, as you won’t get out what you paid in, when it folds in 2016. You can’t admit that it is a socialist program? Do people pull out more than they contributed? YES!!! and that means others are underwritting it for them. You can grasp that can’t you?

      • Beberoni says:

        But seriously eyes, if you want the real reason medicare is in trouble, is the same reason medi-caid and social security are in trouble, and its because the federal government runs them. Honest truth. And believe it or not, even after all this failure, there are some that want to give them the keys to running our health care. Wow. Whats wrong with that picture?

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Bebe, do you go and try to get a loan without having the income to pay for it? Well, dude, that is just what Medicare Advantage did. No way to pay for it. Stupidity by the politicians. Just as bad as tax cuts when fighting a war. Stupid. Where do you people think the money comes from for the wars? Taxes is where. You wouldn’t have run your personal budget the way the previous admin, ran this country. Wake up, research and just once, admit that we had people in office who made horrible decisions, and they are still there. Don’t kid yourself, it is not just the Dem’s.

    • Robert says:

      Let’s clone our founding fathers and see what they have to say. I’m pretty sure they would be a little disappointed in how the constitution and bill of rights has been interpreted over the last 200 years. Claire, I didn’t know there were 30-40 million americans not covered. Does that number include illegal immigrants and young people who choose not to buy coverage? As far as Obama receiving the peace prize, I have more things on my mind. Like finding a job. I think the man needs to stop campaining and start doing some real work.

  84. Disappointed says:

    I find it stunning how much blind support George W. Bush had and how little support America has for Barack Obama. Such a sad fading republic America has become.

    • JeffH says:

      The anti-American influence is losing ground to the real patriots!
      Yes We Can! 2010-new faces in Congress, 2012-Americans get America back. Vote wisley, your childrens children depend on you!

      • Emmanuel Sapel says:

        JeffH, when you say Americans get America back, you mean back from who? From Marsians? or from the Jupitans?

      • JeffH says:

        Emmanuel Sapel…you know! You and your ilk! The Obamaination government. George Soros! Biden, Pelosi, Reid, Bloomberg, Feinstein. Baucus, Boxer, Holder, Gibbs, VanJones, Sunsteen and the list goes on.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Make it easy on yourself and just say, the Democrats, those evil doers who should be bannished to another country, as they don’t have any right to be in this country, if they don’t believe like us, and belong to the same church, and want only one party in this country.

      • Beberoni says:

        Ok. The demcrats, those evil doers, should be banished to another country. Wow, that felt good. Thanks Mr. Obvious, your a life saver.

      • Beberoni says:

        And Dodd, Dean, Daschle, Frank, Emmanuel. All the evil cats.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        You just proved that the radical right wingers, want to have only one party…..hum… does the word communism mean anything to you?

  85. LENNY says:

    The awarding of this prize to Al Gore and Barry have reduced the credibility and prestige of this prize to the same status as the prize you find in a box of Crackerjack….

    What an embarrasment….

  86. Claire says:

    JeffH:
    I’ll reserve the “blithering idiocy” for you, Rush, Beck, and Hannity since you all belong in the same category.
    For the past 20 years out of 28 this country had a conservative president and look at mess. And now the Conservatives are crucifying the President because he wants change. Evidently the Conservative policies of today are not working. Is Palin and McCain the best you could come up with? Oly God knows what their leadership would be like. Ignorance begets ignorance.

    • JeffH says:

      Claire…once again…you are a blithering idiot. Is socialism the answer to Americas troubles? NOPE! Greed and power by two political powers that believe the money grows on trees, could care less about you or I, are manipulative and dishonest and, like DaveH likes to say, loves making Big Government even bigger. This administration is committed to making all of us dependent on the government. Why is the stimulus dollars not being used resourcefully? Invest in Americas infrastructure, create jobs for Americans out of work. Don’t give failing banks billions to fail anyway. AIG? Would like to have some of that cash!

    • PoFolks says:

      It appears the Narcissistic(WORDS REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT)

    • JeffH says:

      Claire, I am honored to be even mentioned in the same breath as THE BIG THREE, Limbaugh, Hannity and Beck and now JeffH. I appreciate the recognition, but I must decline the award, as my accomplishments have yet to match the reward. Would think Obama might have said something like that if he felt he was truly humbled and undeserving of the NPP.

    • Beberoni says:

      Au contrare oh Clair. Everything was going fine, until you boy Barack came upon the scene, not so much just him, but his liberal tax monster party. You see, even though your liberal press was telling the country how bad things were, in reality, all the stock market and employment levels and everything, while the press was lambasting Bush, all these things were at a higher level than they were at during the Clinton admin. Check it out, its a fact. But you lefty followers dont care about the truth, you just blindly listen to the news they tell you, and you dont even know propaganda when it hits you between the eyes. Look Claire, the democrats own ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and MSNBC, and they are only going to tell you lies about the Republicans. The Bush admin, at their worst, according to the news media which lied to you, was still better than your hero Bill Clinton at his best. So the mess we are in now, yeah, your dems caused it, and your dems are making it worse. Fact.

  87. Emmanuel Sapel says:

    Claire, I couldn’t agree more with your assessment and I think that Norma you need to read Mogan’s write up again. I think your choosing to read with understanding is a part of the right’s problem. Let me try to break down some of this whole socialist and communist fantasy that is in the head of the extreme rights in very simple terms. Bush send the economy in shackles – understood? This impacted the auto industry tremendously. If the Obama administration ignored a 1 million personnel employer, it would eventually cost the economy a longer time to recover and more miserable families which would impact many other sectors of the economy. Still there with me? Which will you prefer, borrowing money and taking control to solve the problem or letting the problem get worst and more families becoming homeless, more homes foreclosed on, more emergency room visits made…and if more of these millions of people can buy, companies can’t make more stuff and would also have to lay off their own employees and the problem would only get worst. I understand Righties have no conscience until the problem directly impacts them. Still there with me. Now take banks, banks are the ones that lend to buy houses, pay for school and credit cards and fund small businesses. If they can’t do these things, just imagine! Did I loose the righties without brains yet? So someone with large resources like the government has to step in to stimulate this shortfall! I mean fill this gap – Ignorant right! Call the president a socialist because he called for a single payer system in health care? What is wrong with the police department – isn’t that socialism, stop going to your mail box when the USPS delivers mails because that is socialism, stop using the library because that is socialism, go out and protest the fire department because that is socialism, do not sent your kids to school K-12 because that is socialism, do not call 911 because that is socialism…does all this make sense to the block headed rights? I am not a democrat either, this is just commonsense and needs not political demagogy or or juxtaposing, republicans need to go back to kindergarten to take a course called COMMONSENSE!.

    • steven jeffries says:

      alinsky’s play book rules for radicials try The shadow party by Poe Oh also this admin used the Cloward-pivin strategy as well and still are all things that have happen up to now are manufactured crises to keep Sheeple from turning into Wolfs and warriors but its not working look up the word agenda by the way

    • Beberoni says:

      And I would add to that, that commonsense, says do not pull the lever when voting, for a person you know nothing about. Do not pull the lever to vote for a person who has stated no course of action they will take. Do not pull the lever for a person who was shown no plans. And never, pull the lever for someone, whose only thing they present, is to point the finger at the other guy. A lesson in common sense would have alleviated this whole mess we are in. Thank you. Also, one more thing. Republicans – never run a man that is 150 years old for president again. Thank you.

  88. Keith H says:

    The elites didn’t pick Obama because he was black,they picked him because of what they could accomplish and get away with him.
    The more popular the president is the more forgivable he is.which means the more he could get away with.Henry Kissenger said Obama will be used to bring in the new world order,thats why in the last 40 years we had democratic and republican presidents,none where able create a healthcare system that benefits ALL americans.
    We’re going to keep thinking the next president is going to solve all the problems of this country, “nonsence”……….they’re playing us for fools, if this new healthcare bill passes it’s going to cost us more money in the long run, and then Obama says he’s not going to raise our taxes, he doesn’t have to,either way they’re going to get more of our money.

    • JeffH says:

      The Dems just don’t call all of the little decreases they have scheduled for your paychecks taxes, that is no longer “politicaly correct”.
      There is a firm effort by this administraion to complete what the others haven’t in the past 40 years. The only separation is that it is this administrations intent to insure that America becomes a third world nation, with the people dependent on government.

      • Beberoni says:

        Jeff, thats how the democrats intend to keep power, by enlarging government, giving handouts right and left, and getting more people dependant on government. Everytime they are in office, taxes go up, and government gets hugely expanded. My golly man, Clinton expanded government so much, and had the most tax hikes ever by a president. Ever. And his blind followers thought he did good, while destroying our intelligence system that caused 9-11 to happen by not catching those guys, and he cut the military in half and weakened us there also. But they created so many more government agencies, that give handouts, and all these so called poor people, keep voting for them as they keep them down and in their place with these handouts, while the rest of us keep working and paying more taxes to pay for all these govenment agencies they keep growing to work on giving out more handouts. Its a vicious circle, and its hurting the country bad.

  89. Claire says:

    Emmanuel:
    I agree with you again!
    Geez, it gets kinda lonely when you’re at the top of the game! Nobody likes a winner when they are losing. We are winning in the common sense department! The righties are out there stumbling around thinking “Wha happened?” Hopefully they will learn a few things when they read your message.

    • JeffH says:

      You will appreciate us for pulling your heads out of the sand when all is said and done. Then again, maybe not!

      • Rod says:

        No Jeff, He isn’t going to pull his head out of the sand. He is
        going to be too busy SCREEMING BLOODY MURDER when they come and
        Drag him out of his cozy little nest.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Rod, so during the last ten years what was the percentage of the raise you received? Did you know that the average was 3.8%? That meant it stayed flatlined the entire 10 year period. Did you have increases in your Home Owners Insurance, Health Insurance, Car Insurance, Food, Clothing, Electric, and last but not least Gas prices? Well, then you are normal, as everyone had those increases, the only problem was a flat line salary. Example health insurance premiums went up 131% in ten years while the average salary rose 38% in same ten years. So how splendily did you make out? Logic will force you to admit that you didn’t gain and whose fault is that? The new Presidents? Oh, yea, that really makes sense…..lol

      • Beberoni says:

        I dont know about him, but myself, my income more than doubled in the last 10 years. I choose to not overheat my house in the winter, and not overcool in the summer, so those bills didnt bug me a bit, cause it just doenst matter. Its miniscule to me. Car gas doesnt bother me either, as I bought me a Honda CRV that pops me 30 mpg. But funny thing is, Obama has been around what, 10 months, and Ive had my wages cut 10 percent for now. Imagine that. Guess thats Bush’s fault that business are getting taxed more and cant afford to build until they see how much they are going to get goughed on their new tax bills. Also, the Bush tax cuts are getting rescinded in 2010, the dems have allready slam dunked that one, and millions more will get laid off, because business’s will lose that operating income and have to use to to pay taxes. So you see, we were in much better shape financially under the Republicans, and until 2012, the economy is going to suck, and really even further, because somewhere down the line we are going to have to pay for all this money Obama is printing around the clock, and giving the the UAW and everyone else that he wants to vote for them in the future. This money has to be put back, and we will all pay for it sooner or later. But you guys cant see it for some reason. Your wearing your John Lennon rose colored glasses, and everything is just fine. Right. Then Mark David Chapman shows up. Yeah, its kind of like that.

      • Smilee says:

        If you would open your eyes Jeff you would find out you still have your head in the sand

      • JeffH says:

        Smilee, there is no sand in these eyes. My mama warned me about getting sand in my eyes, not a good thing.

      • Smilee says:

        Yea, I know it blinds you and it is clear that you cannot see anything so I guess you did not listen to you mama as you still have sand in your eyes. But glad to hear you know that is the reason

      • JeffH says:

        …don’t forget, I am not a nice person also!

  90. Claire says:

    I don’t believe my head is in the sand. Perhaps yours is.

  91. Rod says:

    Look around you, They are putting fully armed Fed. cops in the V.A.
    clinics now. Obama has 80,000 troops in reserve, in Georga, training to be put on the streets of America to stop the riots that they believe will happen when the TYRANNY begins. I’D say, shades of
    Hitler’s BROWN SHIRTS! All for our PROTECTION!

    • JeffH says:

      I don’t like Obama either, but you might be just a little paranoid with your thoughts and comments.

      • Sergeant Rock says:

        JEFFH,

        It isn’t paranoia when it is all too true. Recent disclosures including the American Police Force fiasco in Montana, and all the information that came to light about that should be enough to make anyone paranoid, especially when one couples that with:

        A: Obama’s stated goal to have a CIVILIAN (mercenary) Police Force that is loyal to HIM, not the Constitution, and to have them as well armed and equipped as the true Military.

        B: The uncanny similarities in process and implimentation of policies (not to mention policy similarities) with the early Nazi movement. Yeah, I know, we aren’t supposed to say Nazi. Can’t help it when I see the UNION violence and the unseemly UNION coupling with the Administration, all aimed at the goal of stifling true dialogue and inducing control through fear and intimidation for the purpose of grabbing power, both for the unions and the Administration.

        C: The shameful request on the White House web page asking all good little liberal FINKS to rat out their “unpatriotic” neighbors and friends. Yes, they did take it down, but once the word is out, what does that matter? Fact is, the individual we put in the White House is not an honorable man, as an honorable man would never have made that request in the first place. This man makes Nixon at his worst look like the Dalai Lama.

        D: The Democrats recent move to cut the Defense Department funding by 25%. Weaken the real military while building a covert, mercenary force of largely foriegners (as cadre at least) who have NO compunction about shooting or otherwise abusing American Citizens.

        E: The whole LIBERAL POLITICAL CORRECTNESS campaign, which once again seeks to stifle true dialogue partly by changing the understanding of the language. The demonization of everyday citizens who have become alarmed, constantly uttered by the Administration and the Democrats, seeks to take away our voice and to supplant it with a STATE voice.

        F: The TRAITOR MEDIA, who refuses to aknowledge the legitimate concerns of centrist and conservative American Citizens, calling us TEA BAGGERS, IDIOTS, an ANGRY MOB, TERRORISTS, SUBVERSIVES, and UNPATRIOTIC. Note that when O and his commie buds were out agitating (oops, I mean community organizing) they thought of themselves as the patriots, even though they hated their government and the TRAITOR MEDIA played their tune on the front pages. Now that the center/right has become alarmed enough to get up and protest, suddenly the same people call us unpatriotic. But as long as the MEDIA are a acting as they currently do, there is NO voice that can be raised to reach the entire public if needed. The watchdogs have become lapdogs.

        G: The insane push by the FED and their lackeys to force all of us to take toxic experimental vaccines for the trumped-up swine flu epidemic. So far about 485 people have died from this flu, while the annual average for the normal round of flu worldwide is about 30,000. So they want to whack us all with 4 or 5 doses of mercury each dose exceeding the EPA lifetime recommended exposure. Now, seeing that Mercury is most toxic to BRAIN CELLS and NERVOUS TISSUE, one might get the impression that the ONE wants us all brain dead, sick, and dependent on government medical. But that would be paranoid.

      • Normal Guy says:

        Interesting that there are never angry mobs of liberals threatening people and calling for violence. Those liberals don’t join militias and buy guns and ammo. Those liberals don’t have massive conspiracy theories about government and world organizations.

        Also when America was attacked on 911 Bush and his crew were not immediately blamed and vilified. You right wingers are way out of line, America does not need a bunch of fundamental extremists destroying her from inside.

      • ccg says:

        N.G. It is exactly the lefty Libs that get out and do the damaging extreme violence int the streets. You are sooooooo wrong.

        Just even look at the difference at the Mall after Obama’s inauguration.
        They left that place a filthy mess. When the Tea Party People left the same area several months later, it was clean.
        When there is violence in the streets its not the normal right that does it. There may be a few radicals, but most of it is the lefty libs. They go out and fight each other. Trying to see who can beat up who. So full of violence but these same people would not go to fight for the freedom of their country. Go figure.
        Reminds me of gangs. Anyone who has to fight with a gang is really a coward.

      • JeffH says:

        I love it…angry mobs…the MSM has little parrots all over the place. These so called “angry mobs” are your neighbors, aunts and uncles, grammas and grampas, sons and daughters, mom and pops and red blooded Americans that are sick and tired of the double talking and uninforming speaches coming from our government representatives for decades. They don’t trust government! They are called and labeled unamerican because they protest by the very sme people we have “hired” to represent us. They are told thay have to participate in a National Health Care program that nobody knows about. The majority doesn’t want a government run health care program, but the administration won’t listen. You have to participate or pay a fine. No taxes? More taxes! The rumors fly, Obama speaks, Pelosi speaks, Baucus speaks, Reid speaks, but they say nothing and show complete disrespect for the very same people they work for. I understand why they are angry. You are part of the sheeple that will fall in line like good sheep do. Your choice, not mine. I still have a voice and so does the “angry mob”.

      • JeffH says:

        Say what you believe, that is your right. It is the liberal left Democratic Party and their media under the tutelage of George Soros, with his hatred for America and the manipulation of his puppet, Obama, that has divided the people in this country and is a real threat to this countries freedom.

      • Normal Guy says:

        OK Ultra right wingers

        Do a search for right wing radical threats in the USA. There are hundreds of hate, racist, anti-government right wing conspiracy nut groups, homeland security identifies over 900. Virtually nothing but right wing propaganda comes up when you search for left wing radical threats in the usa. Go in and find all the lunatics who agree with your paranoid delusions.

        You people live in denial, you think you are patriots, you are anything but. This is a great country, it has been particularly outstanding for the last century, we have the greateast stable system of government anywhere. The ridiculous conspiracy crap you all spew suggesting that you have to “save the USA” is beyond ridiculous. Why don’t you just go hide in the woods and leave reality for the rest of us.

      • JeffH says:

        Normal Guy, Napolitano and Home Land Security have already puplished their report on “Right Wing Extremisn”, which wasn’t supposed to be released for public viewing. Sorry fella, but those of us that own guns and buy ammo are on the list and considered “right wing extremists”, even though most of the gun and ammo purchases might be made for hunting and target shooting. In this administration, if one disagrees with Obama, he or she is seen as a right wingnut. There are a whole bunch of us “right wingnuts”, and I am proud to be one of them.

      • JeffH says:

        Normal Guy says:
        October 16, 2009 at 5:12 pm
        Interesting that there are never angry mobs of liberals threatening people and calling for violence.
        You might be onto something. The liberals are sitting on their (WORD REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT) waiting for the government to hold their hand and lead them to the “PROMISED LAND”. Like sheep being led to slaughter!

      • DaveH says:

        Jeff,
        This is for the King of Liberal Misinformation and Double-Speak:
        http:
        //www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k0Y7_5a5d0

        No doubt he will try to spin this one. Oh yeah, these are peaceful marchers.

      • JeffH says:

        DaveH, isn’t it funny how the “old farts” at the Tea Parties and the Town Halls angry mobs are still getting a lot of the attention, not just for a couple of days or a few reports like the G20 protests got. Gramma and Grampa looked much more intimidating in their polo shirts and chinos with uncovered faces.

      • Beberoni says:

        Angry mobs? You mean like posting Black Panther militants with baseball bats at voting polls, making sure folks vote the right way or else? Kind of like that, right?

      • JeffH says:

        Sergeant Rock, I don’t disagree with what you say at all. I am prepared and I know what has been said.

      • JeffH says:

        American Private Police Force in Hardin, MT. was a scam by a guy named Michael Hilton, who apparently had a pretty long rap sheet including fraud. link to the site: http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/early_agreement_appf_provide_hardin_police_force.php#more

      • JeffH says:

        Sarge, I apologise as I in no way was saying all of your comments reflected paranoia. My referance was meant to be directed at the “Civilian Army” that Obama has mentioned. I don’t believe he will ever garner enough backing, other than Pelosi and Soros, for that to become reality. I do, however, agree that it will always be that possibility, as he has said so. We all must do our part to insure that never happens. If that means marching on 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., then so be it. Our Constitution will prevail and give us, the citizen,s the right to protect ourselves from a tyranical government.

      • DaveH says:

        Sarge,
        It is not paranoid at all to see the facts and prepare for the results. You might be wrong, but all any of us can do is learn as much as we can and make our best judgements. I wish you luck.

      • DaveH says:

        The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing (Edmund Burke).

      • Dennis says:

        All very true, he is a dictator in the makeing, my eyes are wide open and my mind very clear on who and what this man is.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Hell no he isn’t paranoid, he is just copying the rest of your cohorts who are talking about arming themselves and taking this country back before the election, as it will be too late by then. What do you think those types of statements are? This guy is just more honest and forthright, devoid of pretense and willing to not use nuance to scream his meanings. He is just like the rest of you, only more honest.

  92. Denny Dale says:

    When it is your intent to dismantle a country and break it into pieces
    don’t you deserve a peace prize?

  93. Claire says:

    For once I agree with JeffH. These thoughts and comments are a bit over the top. However, paranoia can run deep. This is where common sense should prevail. The problems of America are not good, but we need to realize we live in the best country in the world, and we do not need to destroy her from within. It will accomplish nothing and we will only hurt ourselves.

    • DaveH says:

      Claire,
      This country is being destroyed from within right now. It is being destroyed by Big Government (not just the Democrats either). The leaders are becoming a force unto themselves instead of the law-abiding representatives they are supposed to be. Of course this is understandable. Who doesn’t want a better life? The problem here is that their better life is at the expense of the ordinary citizens who they are supposed to represent.
      I find it truly amazing that so many Liberals who want to drag down the Rich apparently have no problem with allowing our Representatives to pay themselves large salaries and huge benefits while they work only about 3 days a week on average. And then those Representatives turn around and give subsidies and protection from competition to some of those very same Rich that the Liberals say they despise.

      • Beberoni says:

        I agree with Dave about this big government thing. I want less of them in my life, and I want them to have less control of things. They have messed up running the schools, they have messed up runnin social security, they have messed up running medicaid and medicare, and now they want to run the heath system. No thanks. They have messed up the welfare, unemployment and food stamp systems and made that a way of life for people, keeping them down and dependant on this big government. We dont need this. We need less of them, and for more people to be big boys and hike up their pants and stand on their own and quit depending on the government and giving them power. But it seems that is their aim, to create more and more government, and infringe more and more on us. We do not need more government, we need less of it. You are very correct Dave H.

  94. Norma says:

    I wasn’t aware I was talking about law enforcement,tho I have 2 Children on the police dept.,but if you don’t like cops either’ next time you need help,call a gang member.Why do you not join the service and try doing without health care when you’re shot.Are you still with me?Don’ you dare patronize me. I’m old enough to be your grandma,and if I had raised you ,maybe you would have some common sense.Are you still with me?I’m waiting Emanual Sapel.

    • Emmanuel Sapel says:

      I am still with you but thank goodness you did not raise me. I wonder what I would be like if you did, no brains, no commonsense, paranoid about some alien taking over my country, believe in theories of some socialist and communist conspiracy, watch Rush Limbaugh and Shawn Hanity and Glenn Beck? I am so glad you did not raise me! I can’t believe I would have been supporting Bush using our military to invade other countries and arrest people and torture them without trials or locked them up indefinitely, support chenney to re-write our constitution to suit his Haliburton and Oil Agenda, support insurance companies and would rather people die to save money for its shareholders and executives. I am glad you did not raise me. I can’t believe I would have been a tea bagger, or Sarah Palin and John McCain supporter! I cannot imagine supporting a country where 1% of the population owns and countrols more than the wealth of 95% of the rest of the population combined. I do not make hundreds of thousands of dollars but do not mind at all paying in more taxes so that my neighbor can get equal medical care or not sleep under bridges like they were cave men or have a roof over their heads too like I do or sent their children to school like I did or pay afford college…I am so glad you did not raise me and thus I have some brains and consequently some commonsense!

      • ccg says:

        Emmanuel That’s the problem now, you have no brains. Just another little boy running around taking taking taking from society.

      • Emmanuel Sapel says:

        CCg, please read again, I just said I make enough and willing to pay more taxes so someone that is not as lucky as I am can equally be proud to be an American. Can you get some brains or take away the blockage that is in the existing one!

      • April says:

        Then donate! Start your own charity! Because if you were using those brains and common sense you say you have, you would understand that not only you pay more taxes but so do the folks who can’t afford their basic needs already. They cannot afford this plan forced down thier throats. Spreading the wealth does not work. It is a vehicle to communism.

      • April says:

        And BESIDES!!! I bet Norma is thankful that she didn’t have you as her son. Her children would have way more integrity and be real benefits to society.

      • DaveH says:

        We are wasting our time with this guy April. He is just another of the brain-dead liberal Zombies who will support Obama through any amount of immorality. Don’t waste your time asking him to consider the people who have worked long hours and saved to make their lives better. He would rather support those who were partying, doing drugs, or otherwise screwing up their lives, and who now want to take the savings of the others.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Emmanuel, if you don’t take the same line as the radicals here on this site, you are a drug addict, non Christian, socialist, facist, communist, anti-American, liberal, Nazi, anti-gun, welfare receiptant,tax dodger, Muslim lover, who makes it on the backs of others. Dude, I hate to tell you this, but even if you are successful you, will be hated, as no other beliefs will be tolerated. There can only be one ideology and that is theirs!!!! Given the opportunity, I think they would really put all Dems in jail, or exhile them to another country.

      • Beberoni says:

        Im thinking that this was the sickest rant Ive ever read on one of these posts. Someone is paranoid that the Republicans are out to get them. Yeah, that Sarah Palin, what with her God and family focus is really dangerous you know. As is that 150 year old man that should have been her Vice President. You need Dr. Phil or someone, because youve got some very evident problems.

  95. steven jeffries says:

    The man behind it all and his Name is George Soros and open and tides foundation I could go on

    • eyeswideopen says:

      How about Sheldon Adelson? He is a corrupt Republican donor and he is trying to take over Israel. What about that don’t you care ? Oh, that’s right Republicans can do no harm. Sorry. I forgot.

      • Beberoni says:

        If this guy is all you say he is, why am I not seeing his name plastered all over ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and MSNBC? If all you say is true, they would simply slaughter the guy. They try to destroy people that dont even have any dirt, like they did to Sarah Palin. Im sorry, I dont care what side of the aisle you are on, but when they attacked her family then posted out and out lies about her to try to turn the populace against her, that should have angered the American in you. Its wrong. But if this guy is bad like you keep saying, why is it Im not hearing his name over and over again?

  96. Claire says:

    JeffH:

    O.K. since you got ugly with me, here it is:
    (SENTENCE REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT)

  97. cr747 says:

    Louise, you talk like somebody with (WORDS REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT). The idiot’s we got in Washington running our country, including the president Husein, are the dumbest people that ever (WORD REMOVED) behind a pair of sneakers. If we don’t VOTE them out in 2010 our great, great, great grand kids will be ruled by China. We vote them out in 2010 we can get him impeached, and get someone in there with a little bit of sense, and someone that was born in The United States to take over and get us out of this mess, or else we are doomed.

  98. Emmanuel Sapel says:

    Norma, I am still with you but thank goodness you did not raise me. I wonder what I would be like if you did, no brains, no commonsense, paranoid about some alien taking over my country, believe in theories of some socialist and communist conspiracy, watch Rush Limbaugh and Shawn Insanity and Glenn Beck? I am so glad you did not raise me! I can’t believe I would have been supporting Bush using our military to invade other countries and arrest people and torture them without trials or locked them up indefinitely, support chenney to re-write our constitution to suit his Haliburton and Oil Agenda, support insurance companies that would rather people die to save MONEY for its shareholders and executives. I am glad you did not raise me. I can’t believe I would have been a tea bagger, or Sarah Palin and John McCain supporter! I cannot imagine supporting a country where 1% of the population owns and controls more than the wealth of 95% of the rest of the population combined. I cannot believe being brainwashed by the special interest rich folks to think with my emotions and act without brains. I do not make hundreds of thousands of dollars but do not mind at all paying in more taxes so that my neighbor can get equal medical care or not sleep under bridges like they were cave men or have a roof over their heads too like I do or sent their children to school like I did or pay afford college or just buy some real food and not junk…I am so glad you did not raise me and thus I have some brains and consequently some commonsense!

  99. Charles Stansfield says:

    What little bit of respect I still had for the Nobel Peace Prize Committee has now vanished completely. The once coveted Peace Prize should be awarded for outstanding humanitarian accomplishments. This year’s prize has been given for nothing more than political promises that are geared toward socialism.

  100. PoFolks says:

    Will the military stand with the people or will they stand with the Marxists/Communists/Leftists/Progressives trying to destroy the country and enslave its people?

    What about the police – state, county and local? Who will they stand with? Do you think they will stand with the people or will they blindly follow the orders of their superiors, regardless of the consequences?

    When the knock comes at the door who will it be? The Military? The Police? oBUMa’s Brownshirt/Acorn/Civilian Army thugs?

    The day is coming, and it is coming soon. Be prepared. Think about how you are going to respond. It will be too late if you wait until you’re opening the front door.

    Yep, oBUMa’s America – coming to your front door… real soon!

    • Emmanuel Sapel says:

      This is why I told Norma I was glad I was not raised by a republican. I would have been this paranoid about some coming war or take over by some socialist alien/Martian…Can you all please think with brains. This leads me to really conclude that we need some real educational and psychiatric reform in this country!

      • DaveH says:

        Another typical Liberal, who through lack of facts must denigrate those with different viewpoints.
        Already millions of people have seen their invested savings reduced dramatically in value as a result of Big Government meddling in the real-estate lending business. These were investments that many ordinary people accumulated from decades of hard work. All those people wanted to do was to live a little easier life in their old age. Read Thomas Sowell’s book “The Housing Boom and Bust”.
        And now millions more will see their cash savings decline dramatically in value because that same Big Government is spending money they it doesn’t have which will inevitably result in the devaluation of the dollar.
        And you call these people paranoid? Get real Liberal. Do not confuse taking money from others with charity. When you give of yourself, it is charity. When you give of others, it is theft.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Why don’t you start quoting someone revelant? Like Paul Krugman the 2008 Noble Prize winner in economics? Your guys theories have already been proven wrong with this last recession/almost depression. When you are insuring a concept and not a physical product, and you are insuring against the insurance, even a child can understand the fraud and deception involved. A free market with no rules or regulations does not remain free. It becomes an anarchy due to the monopolies and eventually implodes upon itself. Greed must be controlled as history has shown.

      • Beberoni says:

        Greed in man cannot be controlled. You will either love God, or you will love money. You cannot love both. So when men go chasing after money, you do got this part right, greed will follow and consume them, because hey, admit it, it becomes their god and owns them. Thats just how it is.

    • Wayne Keel - V Vet says:

      Po Folks, You have the right idea. The whole nation will have to go to DC to get this scum out and restore our Great Nation on top of the world. I suppose the people supporting this POS admin are just lazy, cowards, or maybe they just believe in whatever they are told without doing any research. Which ever they are, I kinda feel sorry for them and wish they could see what’s really going on. I haven’t read Glenn Beck’s book “Arguing With Idiots”, but I guess I need to, because these people really amaze me with their stupidity. Like I’ve said to countless websites, we’re wasting precious time by letting these parasites continue to spend and enslave REAL AMERICANS. All those who’ve fought and died for freedom in this country are crying out from Heaven for us to do something so their sacrifice didn’t go in vain. I went to Nam to kill commies when the real threat was at home. We need to finish that war here at home, not by killing them, just get our country back. I’m sure I’m probably on their most wanted list, but that’s OK, because I’ll fight and die for my GOD, my family, and my country in that order! Patriots!!! It’s time to go to DC and damn soon! Next year is too late! Look at what’s already been done!

      • DaveH says:

        Yes, it’s amazing how hard people will look the other way when trouble is right in front of their noses.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        This man is talking about going to Dc and damn soon, and you are ignoring that? You have been following this nut, on this site to know exactly what he is proposing and you will say nothing. How interesting is that? During the big gun debate, he called on an overthrow of the government,starting with an armed march and violence if necessary stating we can’t wait until the elections!!! You are turning a blind eye to this man, and you have the nerve to accuse someone else of the same things. Amazing, hypocritical but amazing.

    • Dennis says:

      I say we go to his house, his front door, in washington DC and Impeach this POS, not only ask for it but demand it for his lie’s and outrite disrespect and total disregard for the Constitution of The United States of America witch he is suppose to uphold, But as most of us know that was never apart of his agenda to begin with.
      How did American’s vote this POS Kenyan Born Muslum into office to begin with? i dont think we did do you?

      • golding4 says:

        We didn’t vote him in. the bilderberg group, who own wall street, the Federal Reserve, the media (except Fox) with all the untruths and the use of the media to blindfold the real American people and the use of evil organizations like ACORN to double the votes here and there, and maybe even some dead people voted. The evil was enough to do the selecting of who lived in the White House, The American People, (exclude all liberals) are getting angry now, and groups are forming, they just had a Militia forming in Post Fall, ID and thousands attended, with law inforcmment, lawyers, State reps from WA and ID.Soccer Moms, etc. The Real American people are waking up. They also know by reason of delay, that Obammmmmmma who was ordered by a Federal Court Judge to turn over his long form birth certificate within three days to the Plaintiff….that being 14 months ago and obama is not obaying the Judge is the same as putting himself above the law, and proving that he is not a Citizen of this country and the Damn liberals don’t care, they are like sheep, or rats following the piper. and the Piper has to be put out of the Office that he is not quilifies to hold, the American people have to take care of this inorder to undue everything that ungodly person has signed into law. This person can not be impeached for he did not and does not quilify for the office, he needs to be removed and turned over to the proper authories for trial.

      • golding4 says:

        If you can’t get him out, it’s because he is the coming antichrist and the bilderberg group want him to lead the new world government that they have an agenda of nine years to form….so I say look up and smile and the Lord will take obama out after the Church is removed from this earth.

  101. Robert says:

    Obama. He’s still the president? You mean it’s not November 2012? Damn, I thought the Chinese kicked him out when we defaulted on paying back the loan and forclosed on the White House.

    • Sorry says:

      Sorry you will have to wait until 2016!

      • Robert says:

        What makes you think we’ll have the right to vote in 2016 if the democrats still hold the white house? Nancy Pelosi is already planning legislation to negate any serious threats to the democratic encumbents. She’ll institue the “do over” clause until we stupid voters get it right.

      • Beberoni says:

        I got 10 to 1 that you will change that tune in 2010 when you see how many libs get voted out of office. How you can honestly think people would be dumb enough to vote this guy in again, what with all the America destruction he has bestowed upon us so quickly, youve got to be nuts man. Even his own party is getting to the point of turning on him. I really wouldnt not be surprised at all to see them run Hillary in 2012, and push him aside. Of course, they do have to fear the race card.

    • eyeswideopen says:

      Dude, are you really that un informed? You need to check history and see who got us into this dreamy relationship with China. But here’s a hint, happened prior to Obama. LMAO

  102. clyde says:

    God did not put obama in office, because He never has made a mistake! But God did permit it to happen. obama is taking our nation down the drain. I have talked to all of my doctors and not one of them supports ob.I respect the office of the president, but I do not respect nor support ob. I will never accept him as my president!!!! I am not a racist. I would have voted for Collin Powell on any ticket, because I felt that he was experinced and was a real leader. Now I have no respect for him for swinging to ob’s side. Someone needs to fire ob like he fired the ceo of gm. the goverment needs to stay away from private businesses, and just about every thing else.

  103. vernie says:

    How many of you know that , while Obama regularly says,” I inherited this mess,” He really was a big part of the cause . Over 20 yrs ago when he was a ” COMMUNITY ORGANIZER “in Chicago, 2 black couples were denied a mortgage by the bank because of a poor credit rating . Obama took the bank to court claiming racial discrimination , and won ,and the Bank was forced to grant them the mortgages. So , of course, the
    rest of the banks , for fear of the racial discrimination label were forced to follow suit , regardless of -bad credit history, unsubstantial payment abilities, insufficient down payments, whatever.
    I’ve heard the comment many times -”As long as they were breathing”
    they could qualify . CAN YOU SPELL “SUB-PRIME MORTGAGE BREAKDOWN ”
    Good sneaking out of that one Obama !! America got CHANGE ,allright!!!

  104. Kristin says:

    Sue C. Please tell me what good things Pres Obama has done in the last 9 months to earn your praise? The only thing I can think of is an effort to move our country into a socialist one world order. America is close to losing everything that has made us a great country blessed by God. I think “Saturday Night Live” got it right. Obama has done Nada!!!!!! He does not deserve any praise and he certainly does not deserve the Nobel Peace prize, unless they now give them for doing nothing. I feel sorry for those who in the past were awarded a NPP because it has now been reduced to a joke. No one will ever see it as a true honor anymore. Pres Obama is not man enough to do the right thing and turn it down. Once again his arrogance got the better of him.

    • DaveH says:

      Kristen,
      Socialist leaders are afraid of any freedom-loving countries. If their own citizens were to see the happiness of freedom unfettered by the will of the Liberal elite, then those citizens might want some of the same for themselves. That of course would greatly impact the opulent lives of the leaders.

  105. April says:

    I just have to say that I went through and tried to catch as many HEROES who fought for me and my America as I could. I hope I did not miss anyone. If I did, please forgive me.
    Jeff H, US MARINE, EX US PARATROOPER, 101_SARGE, AL, Retired Military Couple, cr747, Sergeant Rock, Ex-Army Ranger, Wayne Keel V Vet, and Norma who represent the families of those who served. You are deeply appreciated and I love ya’ll with every beat of my heart. Thank God Almighty for our Brave Warriors. God bless you and God bless America!
    HOOOOAAH!!! and SEMPER FI!!!

  106. Rich says:

    Wow lots of anger about Mr. Obama winning the peace prize. Though I see it as a a reducing the value the prize has further. I was led to believe the prize was for accomplishments and not rhetoric, but hey I am a simple person. I am not going to attack him for winning, what is there to honestly attack? He won the prize just as Al Gore did a few years back, by a vote for perceived things that will happen in the future and not the reality of his character or achievements. If you happen to win the gold medal in an event because the guy in front of you tripped and fell on his face, did you win the gold medal? Yes you did, so congratulations Mr. Obama.

  107. Josie says:

    Hummmmm In the Comment Policy it states, PLEASE DON’T STOOP TO NAME CALLING! THERE SHOULD BE OPEN DISCUSSION WITH A WIDE RANGE OF VIEWS! Can it be that those with the Right Wing view cannot read or just cannot follow directions? The response to my comments was led by an immediate blast, name calling included! How sad! It does display the ignorance of those that responded with the NAME CALLING!
    It can also be noted that along with the insults to me, anyone representing an independent or left wing view was met with various insults. One such was Native American using the call name, Wadu. That insult was hate filled and horrible. But it will bring me to my point more quickly. Perhaps all these right wing comments that deny racism should be seen for what they really are. My guess, and let’s not forget, we are all entitled to our views without the name calling insults, my guess would be that these twisted, distorted views expressed about our President are made out of fear. Oh, the reason given for the fear is he is Socialist, Communist, Muslim. Really? Or is it perhaps because the white man is in fear of losing his power? Why else all this hate and distortion? A black man is now President. To most of us that is a great advancement for our country, and for the world at large. But, for those with hate and fear in their heart, they see a loss of control, a loss of power and leadership that white men have had over this nation. With that comes control of that $$$$$$………. Ah yes, that ever so important $$$$$ that must be controlled by white men! So the twisted, sick LIES blast our President and so much sickness is expressed in comments against any that disagree! How sick is that? But, my comments are not made in an idle manner. They are based on years and years of knowledge and experience. I am well informed in spite of the inference that because my views are to the left, I am somehow uneducated, uninformed or lacking diverse views. I have lived through World War II, Korean War, Viet Nam War and now the ugliest wars…….. For those that scoff at Peace without war, it is time. It is time to attempt to reach out to our enemies and those that would kill us in an instant, and hope that we can avoid KILLING ANYONE!! OUR TROOPS, OTHER TROOPS AND THE INNOCENT CIVILIANS THAT JUST LIKE AMERICANS WANT TO RAISE THEIR FAMILIES IN PEACE and deserve a chance to find that desired Peace. Oh yes, all those reasons given to invade Iraq that have been given positive comments here, try looking further. If the justification for war was ONLY to take out a leader that was putting his own people to death, WHY OH WHY HAVE WE NOT COME TO THE AID OF DARFUR, WITH TROOPS TO STOP THE KILLING OF INNOCENTS, OR THE OTHER BLACK NATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBJECTED TO ETHNIC CLEANSING, AND SUFFERING BEYOND IMAGINATION? NO OIL???????
    Just a thought! There is so much more that should be responded to here, but so little space and time.
    One last comment, several came after me with blasts of evil that is unreal! Many wrote about Jesus and what He would do etc. Jesus tried to help people correct their faults. He also tried to explain about judgement or the lack thereof, and how we should be careful about judging others, least we be caught in judgment against the very things we are also guilty of. You know, cast the first stone……….. Finally,
    the subject of abortion. Abortion is a horror! It is killing! How does that killing somehow become more ugly, more horrible than the killing that is part of WAR!! How does anyone dare separate killing, as though one is worse than the other! IT IS THE TAKING OF LIFE! IT IS KILLING! It is somehow acceptable to kill based on the fact that some of those you kill are actual enemies that would kill you first? That makes it acceptable? HYPOCRITES!! KILLING IS KILLING AND WAR IS KILLING!! HOW DARE YOU ATTEMPT TO MAKE ONE ACCEPTABLE WHILE THE OTHER IS CONSIDERED AN ACT OF MURDER! THE ONLY ACCEPTABLE WAR IS WHEN SOMEONE ATTEMPTS TO INVADE THIS LAND!! PROTECT OUR COUNTRY! PROTECT OUR LAND, PROTECT OUR PEOPLE! DO NOT SEEK WAR! THAT IS STILL A SIN!
    OUR TROOPS ARE CALLED UPON TO PROTECT AND SERVE, THERE IS NO SIN THERE! MY OWN FAMILY MEMBERS HAVE BEEN CALLED TO SERVE. THAT DOES NOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT TO SEEK WAR IS JUST NOT RIGHT! DO NOT DARE TO CALL ME UNPATRIOTIC BECAUSE I BELIEVE WAR IS NOT THE ANSWER! LOOK TO YOUR OWN REASONING…………MAYBE, IF YOU ARE HONEST, YOU WILL NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND!!

    • DaveH says:

      Josie,
      From your own comment:
      “My guess, and let’s not forget, we are all entitled to our views without the name calling insults, my guess would be that these twisted, distorted views expressed about our President are made out of fear.”
      “So the twisted, sick LIES blast our President and so much sickness is expressed in comments against any that disagree! How sick is that?”

      And you used the phrase “white men” 3 times in your comments.

      You don’t see the hypocrisy and racism in those statements?

      I agree with some of your points. If you work harder to avoid the very thing that you accuse others of doing, then your comments will be a valuable addition to the board.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        So what? She is correct, the “White Men” have started every war, we have ever had, caused all the economic hardships we have endured and have made the rest of the world view us with an nasty taste as we are bullies. What didn’t she get right? The White part? Hell, you can’t argue with the facts. White Men have ruled American and look at the mess we are in now. She isn’t a racist as you are inferring, she is a realist. You white men have not been able to play well as children should.

      • Beberoni says:

        Then we shall call a spade a spade. White man has then brought every bit of peace to the earth that we have had. White man has brough every good thing weve ever had. Sorry dude, I dont believe that, anymore than I believe what you said. Put your racist rants away.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Bebe, I knew your racism would rear it’s ugly head. When you stated, and I will quote you, this isn’t my misspelled words or bad grammar useage, this is your statement.” White Man has brough every good thing weve ever had”. This statement does not come from someone with a Ph.D. It also doesn’t come from a non-racist. So, since it is obvious, you don’t have to work so hard to hide it. Feel free to just let it rip and rest assured that true Chrisitans pray for people like you.

      • Beberoni says:

        eyes, just like a lib. You used half of my statement. You intentionally forgot the part where I said I dont believe that for a minute, didnt you? And sorry I had a typo and missed the “t” on brought. And yes, I could have said we have instead of weve, but anyone with common sense could read what it said. Dont use half of my statement to call me a racist. Im a champion of equal rights, and Ive actually got my hands dirty doing it, how about you? Hypocrite. I bet you use the “N” word when your with your friends, and then act all high and mighty in public. Pharisee.

      • Beberoni says:

        Way to go Dave you (WORDS REMOVED FOR OFFENSIVE CONTENT)

  108. Lin B. says:

    Listen up fellow freedom lovers! This guy is going DOWN. They are holding court soon. Discovery! SOON! We must have Judge Carter order all “O” docs to be gathered up and looked over. Orly Taitz got it done. God bless her! Support her for all her hard work to get a Federal Judge, an ex-marine, to care enough about our military under orders and our Constitution to want to know if this joker is really natural born or a natural usuper. I think the later. But let’s see for ourselves. He can fool some of the people some of the time but not all of the people ALL of the time. Thank God for Orly Taitz. We will know the truth soon. Pray for their safely as these Dems are desperate to hold on to the WH. 2010 MUST be d-day, Departure Day for the Obama Congress. VOTE THEM OUT! It’s the only way to get Pelosi and Reid out too. VOTE for FREEDOM!

    • DaveH says:

      Lin,
      It is not only the Democrats that need to go in 2010. Please help us vote out all incumbents who have not worked hard to cut back the size of government. When government grows, corruption flows.
      Once the government has gotten to critical mass, it won’t matter which side of the aisle prevails; there will still be about half the population that is very unhappy. We need to get the government out of our individual lives. We need the government to only protect us from the force of others. We do not need a government that is the ‘forcer’.

      • JeffH says:

        DaveH…that is so true, it is not just the Democrats that must go!

      • ccg says:

        I agree with this too.

      • April says:

        Count me in!!

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Bull crap, there is not one of you who will vote out a Republican. Why bother to try and get in the sheeps clothing? How will you get control and keep it if you vote out any Republicans??? Hah Hah, hypocrits all of you!!

      • Beberoni says:

        Not sure what I said up there Dave that had my words removed for offensive content, but it wasnt bad towards you. I get words removed and Im not cussing or nothing. Pants wetting gets removed when I write it, and things like that. I guess I dont consider that offensive, unless Im wearing them.

      • libertytrain says:

        Beberoni – - I really do enjoy reading you. I wouldn’t get my undies in a bundle over it – Perhaps it was just the way it was used -

      • Beberoni says:

        Yeah, thats what it was. I put pacifist appeasing democrat in front of it. Thats a no-no I guess. My bad.

  109. Claire says:

    JeffH:

    I was not referring to skin pigmentation. You know exactly what I meant so do not try to twist my words.
    Here is a first–I apologize for being hateful. . We all have a right to our opinions and just because we do not agree with each other does not mean we have to get nasty. We are all human beings in this crazy world trying to make sense out of what is going on. Have a good day.

    • JeffH says:

      Claire, I did understand what you meant, and you understood what I meant. Thank you. Now we both have something we can agree upon, and it isn’t brown.

  110. Claire says:

    I have a question for those who say they are neither Republican nor Democrat–why you are you always bashing the current administration? You never post anything derogatory towards the Republicans. Is this a bit of the same old “double standard?” If a person wants to be technical, both parties are only thinking of 2010 and 2012. They are not working together for the betterment of America because they want each other to fail. Yes, our voices have to be heard and we seriously need to reconsider our voting when the time comes. Do we want Democrats elected or the Republicans? I am beginning to believe that having these “parties” are what’s wrong with America. There is corruption in both parties. This problem will always be there. Honest politicians=fantasy world.

    • ccg says:

      Clair, you have a point. Why can’t we have people that are elected to office that want what’s best for the United States? The only problem as is as evidenced by this whole board full of discussions is, people disagree on what is best for this country.

      I still think term limits would be a good start.

      One more thing, we do need a balance. Too many Republicans, or too many Democrats does not work. We do need a balance of all of them including the Libertarians.
      Some of the Lib’s. ideas are good, some I don’t agree with. Same with Dem., as well as Rep.
      We have a Great Nation, and we all do want the same thing, which is for our Nation to succeed.

      • Beberoni says:

        The problem is, whenever say a new blood comes along, they are made to tow the party line, or they are ousted out. I agree that Both the Democrats and the Republicans are scared to death to do something good while the other guy is in power, because they are selfish and want credit for everything. Very prideful. And pride comes before the fall, and both of them are falling. Ive said for years we need a new party to rise up, and the Independants are there, but theyve not managed to raise up enough strong candidates, or enough money to get on the airwaves and get their message out. Im convinced that if they do, the other two parties will start playing dirty to get their power back, so who knows. I was born and raised Democrat, voted that way for 40 years, but the last 11 Im a Republican, basically, just because they are the lesser of two evils. To me, they still represent God and country and family, and the democrats represent taxation, gaydom, illegal immigrants, and killing babies, and I cannot and will not support those immoral ideals. I cant do it.

  111. Average Joe says:

    As far as I can we, we spend too much time discussing issues with no relevance to anything…a misdirection so to speak.
    OK, Obama-man got a award from the Nobel committee…..whoopie!….who really cares?….Does this award affect you, me or anyone else besides Obama-man or the reputation of the organization that gave the award?? This is what I call….non-news….it is nothing more than a title being hung on someone or something….which really have no worth to anyone except the giver and the recipient of said “award?”…It is a title and nothing more. The title doesn’t matter…it is the substance of the book that tells the story. Like books…many have great titles…many have little substance.
    I prefer not to worry about non-news and keep my eyes on the other things we are misdirected from while watching the NON-NEWS.

    • DaveH says:

      The significant lesson to be learned here is that Socialist Leaders will stick up for their own kind no matter how big a stretch on reality it requires. You can see it daily on Hannity or O’Reilly when they interview a left-wing Democrat about the errant behavior of a fellow left-winger. The Liberals will blithely excuse away any immoral behavior when it comes from their own kind.

      • JeffH says:

        Every time it seems.

      • Beberoni says:

        And also I would add to that. If someone sees something done that is wrong, and it doesnt strike a nerve in them, then something is wrong with that person. It just bothers me that for a politically agenda based move, this award was given to slap the face of the other party, and that isnt what this award was supposed to be for. This was done with a purpose, and that purpose was hatred of one Mr. Bush, to glorify one Mr. Obama, who has done nothing to earn this award. Its wrong, thats all.

  112. Average Joe says:

    After reading many of these posts I have made one observation that I would like to share.
    All of us have our opinions and wish to express and share those opinions with others, however we sometimes get caught up in “the heat of the moment” and lose our rationality. Always remember,sometimes it is not the message that determines whether people listen to us or not… as much as how the message is delivered.

    You can still catch more flies with honey, than you can with vinegar.

    • DaveH says:

      Average,
      I think these flys prefer vinegar.

      • Dee D says:

        Bite your tongue DaveH – Vinegar is a natural and very healing elixir that the money making pharmaceuticals will not even begin to work with.
        Much too low of a profit margin for them to stick the buyers with.

    • libertytrain says:

      Average Joe – well said – the heat of the moment also tends to make both sides looks silly with a little too much cussing along with forgetting how to spell.

  113. Claire says:

    Well-spoken.

  114. Norm says:

    Announcement
    The Norwegian Nobel Committee

    The Nobel Peace Prize for 2009

    The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded to President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. The Committee has attached special importance to Obama’s vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons.

    Obama has as President created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play. Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts. The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations. Thanks to Obama’s initiative, the USA is now playing a more constructive role in meeting the great climatic challenges the world is confronting. Democracy and human rights are to be strengthened.

    Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world’s attention and given its people hope for a better future. His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world’s population.

    For 108 years, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has sought to stimulate precisely that international policy and those attitudes for which Obama is now the world’s leading spokesman. The Committee endorses Obama’s appeal that “Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges.”

    Oslo, October 9, 2009

    • Emmanuel says:

      Norm, well captured! After reading this again, I still am not getting the bigotry and block headed responses I have read on this site. Now I can really conclude it was never about this award but something else – I am yet to find out!

    • Average Joe says:

      Okay, so this means he got the award because he is taking us in the direction of international policy and world government and away from from our old “outdated” sense of Sovereignty, Liberty , Freedom, self reliance and personal responsibility?
      I am not sure that I am too happy about that…I kinda like America…just the way our founding fathers envisioned it.

      A Republic, not a democracy.

      Sovereignty, where a man is a King on his own land.

      Liberty, the ability to do or try anything you want in life…as long as you do not infringe upon the rights of another.

      Freedom, to be left alone from the intrusion of the government in all manner from one’s individual personal lives in matters that are not granted to it under the constitution.
      The rights of the people to hold their servant government accountable to them.

      In the Declaration of Independence, Thomas Jefferson wrote, “Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies.”

      I would argue that we, like our patriot forebears, have also endured “patient sufferance.” For at least a half-century, we have patiently endured the erosion and abridgment of our freedoms and liberties. We have watched the federal government become an overbearing and meddlesome Nanny State that pokes its nose and sticks its fingers in virtually everything we do. We cannot drive a car, buy a gun, or even flush a toilet without Big Brother’s permission. We are taxed, regulated, and snooped-on from the time we are born to the day we die. And then after we are dead, we are taxed again.

      In the same way that Jefferson and Company patiently suffered up until that shot was fired that was heard around the world, we who love freedom today are likewise patiently suffering “a long train of abuses and usurpation’s.” In fact, I would even dare say that these States United have become a boiling caldron of justifiable frustration and even anger.

      Accordingly, it is incumbent upon us to very seriously and thoughtfully examine those principles that we absolutely will never cede or surrender. We have already surrendered much of the freedom that was bequeathed to us by our forefathers. We are now to the point that we must define those principles that form our “line in the sand” and that we will not surrender under any circumstance. Either that, or we must admit to ourselves that there is nothing–no principle, no freedom, no matter how sacred–that we will not surrender to Big Government.

      • Normal Guy says:

        AC

        This is a well considered statement.

        I disagree with your conclusions because the circumstances that faced the founding fathers were substantially different. The United States today is a land of opportunity and wealth. We have a strong rule of law and a great social infrastructure. The majority of Americans are well off and well educated. Our government is freely elected and we have no restrictions against political participation. The people can and do make their voices heard, the elected officials generally reflect the will of the people. Obama is doing what he said he would do healthcare and the war in Afghanistan.

        There are problems that need to be overcome; there is a financial crisis that we must work through. The dollar will lose value but it will make American products more competitive in global markets and reduce imports, the economy is already turning. We will have some inflation and that will increase the monetary size of the economy effectively reducing the debt. It will cause problems, Americans will have to work their way out of them.

        Here is the part of the Declaration of Independence listing grievances that they felt needed to be overcome, it is incalculably more severe than today’s circumstances:

        He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
        He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of Immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
        He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
        He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
        He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions of the rights of the people.
        He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the meantime exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
        He has endeavored to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migration hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
        He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.
        He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
        He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our People, and eat out their substance.
        He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
        He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.
        He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their acts of pretended Legislation:
        For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
        For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from Punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
        For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
        For imposing taxes on us without our Consent:
        For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
        For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offenses:
        For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighboring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
        For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Government:
        For suspending our own Legislature, and declaring themselves invested with Power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
        He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
        He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
        He is at this time transporting large armies of foreign mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolution and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
        He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
        He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavored to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of war-fare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

        The idea that we must take radical action as the founders of this nation did is simply incorrect.

      • Average Joe says:

        Normal Guy,

        First a little History, compiled by Team Law @ teamlaw.com
        do the research for yourselves….reassess your version of “truth”.

        Historical Outline

        1st: Martial Law is declared by President Lincoln on April 24th, 1863, with General Orders No. 100; under martial law authority, Congress and President Lincoln institute continuous martial law by ordering the states (people) either con scribe troops and or provide money in support of the North or be recognized as enemies of the nation; this martial law Act of Congress is still in effect today. This martial law authority gives the President (with or without Congress) the dictatorial authority to do anything that can be done by government in accord with the Constitution of the United States of America. This conscription act remains in effect to this very day and is the foundation of Presidential Executive Orders authority; it was magnified in 1917 with The Trading with the Enemy Act (Public Law 65-91, 65th Congress, Session I, Chapters 105, 106, October 6, 1917). and again in 1933 with the Emergency War Powers Act, which is ratified and enhanced almost every year to this date by Congress. Today these Acts address the people of the United States themselves as their enemy.

        2nd: The District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 created a “municipal corporation” to govern the District of Columbia. Considering the fact that the municipal government itself was incorporated in 1808, an “Organic Act” (first Act) using the term “municipal corporation” in 1871 can only mean a private corporation owned by the municipality. Hereinafter we will call that private corporation, “Corp. U.S.” By consistent usage, Corp. U.S. trademarked the name, “United States Government” referring to themselves. The District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 places Congress in control (like a corporate board) and gives the purpose of the act to form a governing body over the municipality; this allowed Congress to direct the business needs of the government under the existent martial law and provided them with corporate abilities they would not otherwise have. This was done under the constitutional authority for Congress to pass any law within the ten mile square of the District of Columbia. Follow this link to see the effect of the District of Columbia Act of 1871.

        3rd: In said Act, Corp. U.S. adopted their own constitution (United States Constitution), which was identical to the national Constitution (Constitution of the United States of America) except that it was missing the national constitution’s 13th Amendment and the national constitution’s 14th, 15th and 16th amendments are respectively numbered 13th, 14th and 15th amendments in the Corp. U.S. Constitution. At this point take special notice and remember this Corp. U.S. method of adopting their own Constitution, they will add to it in the same manner in 1913.

        4th: Corp. U.S. began to generate debts via bonds etc., which came due in 1912, but they could not pay their debts so the 7 families that bought up the bonds demanded payment and Corp. U.S. could not pay. Said families settled the debt for the payments of all of Corp. U.S.’ assets and for all of the assets of the Treasury of the United States of America.

        5th: As 1913 began, Corp. U.S. had no funds to carry out the necessary business needs of the government so they went to said families and asked if they could borrow some money. The families said no (Corp. U.S. had already demonstrated that they would not repay their debts in full). The families had foreseen this situation and had the year before finalized the creation of a private corporation of the name “Federal Reserve Bank”. Corp. U.S. formed a relationship with the Federal Reserve Bank whereby they could transact their business via note rather than with money. Notice that this relationship was one made between two private corporations and did not involve government; that is where most people error in understanding the Federal Reserve Bank system—again it has no government relation at all. The private contracts that set the whole system up even recognize that if anything therein proposed is found illegal or impossible to perform it is excluded from the agreements and the remaining elements remain in full force and effect.

        6th: Almost simultaneously with the last fact (also in 1913), Corp. U.S. adopts (as if ratified) their own 16th amendment. Tax protesters challenge the IRS tax collection system based on this fact, however when we remember that Corp. U.S. originally created their constitution by simply drafting it and adopting it; there is no difference between that adoption and this—such is the nature of corporate enactments—when the corporate board (Congress) tells the secretary to enter the amendment as ratified (even thought the States had not ratified it) the Se3cretary was instructed that the Representatives word alone was sufficient for ratification. You must also note, this amendment has nothing to do with our nation, with our people or with our national Constitution, which already had its own 16th amendment. The Supreme Court (in BRUSHABER v. UNION PACIFIC R. CO., 240 U.S. 1 (1916)) ruled the 16th amendment did nothing that was not already done other than to make plain and clear the right of the United States (Corp. U.S.) to tax corporations and government employees. We agree, considering that they were created under the authority of Corp. U.S.

        7th: Next (also 1913) Corp. U.S., through Congress, adopts (as if ratified) its 17th amendment. This amendment is not only not ratified, it is not constitutional; the nation’s Constitution forbids Congress from even discussing the matter of where Senators are elected, which is the subject matter of this amendment; therefore they cannot pass such and Act and then of their own volition, order it entered as ratified. According to the United States Supreme Court, for Congress to propose such an amendment they would first have to pass an amendment that gave them the authority to discuss the matter.

        8th: Accordingly, in 1914, the Freshman class and all Senators that successfully ran for reelection in 1913 by popular vote were seated in Corp. U.S. Senate capacity only; their respective seats from their States remained vacant because neither the State Senates nor the State Governors appointed new Senators to replace them as is still required by the national Constitution for placement of a national Senator.

        9th: In 1916, President Wilson is reelected by the Electoral College but their election is required to be confirmed by the constitutionally set Senate; where the new Corp. U.S. only Senators were allowed to participate in the Electoral College vote confirmation the only authority that could possibly have been used for electoral confirmation was corporate only. Therefore, President Wilson was not confirmed into office for his second term as President of the United States of America and was only seated in the Corp. U.S. Presidential capacity. Therefore the original jurisdiction government’s seats were vacated because the people didn’t seat any original jurisdiction government officers. It is important to note here that President Wilson retained his capacity as Commander in Chief of the military. Many people wonder about this fact imagining that such a capacity is bound to the President of the nation; however, When John Adams was President he assigned George Washington to the capacity of Commander in Chief of the military in preparation for an impending war with France. During this period, Mr. Adams became quite concerned because Mr. Washington became quite ill and passed on his acting military authority through his lead General Mr. Hamilton and Mr. Adams was concerned that if war did break out Mr. Hamilton would use that authority to create a military dictatorship of the nation. Mr. Adams averted the war through diplomacy and the title of Commander in Chief was returned to him.
        (See: John Adams, by David McCullough, this book covers Mr. Adams concerns over this matter quite well. Mr. Adams was a fascinating man.)

        10th: In 1917, Corp. U.S. enters W.W. I and passes their Trading with the Enemies Act.

        11th: In 1933, Corp. U.S. is bankrupt, they force a banking holiday to exchange money backed Federal Reserve Notes with “legal tender” Federal Reserve Notes the Trading with the Enemies Act is adjusted to recognize the people of the United States as enemies of Corp. U.S.

        12th: Some time after 1935, you ask Social Security Administration for a relationship with their program. With the express purpose of generating Beneficiary funds to United States General Trust Fund (GTF) the Social Security Administration creates an entity with a name (that sounds like your name but is spelled with all capital letters) and an account number (Social Security number). They give you the Social Security card and let you know that the card does not belong to you but you are to hold it for them until they want it back. If you are willing to accept that responsibility over the card you activate the card by signing it, which gives you the ability to act as the fiduciary for the cards actual owner Corp. U.S. and you can use the card’s name and number to thus transact business relations for the card’s actual owner. You are also to note that though the card verifies its agency (you as the single person with authority to control the entity so created) it is not for use as identification. On review: notice the Social Security Administration was the creator of the entity, they offered you the opportunity to serve its Trustee capacity (by lending it actual consciousness and physical capacity), they gave you something (the card) that does not belong to you to hold in trust and they reserved the actual owner of the thing (Corp. U.S.) as the beneficiary of the entity—by definition, this only describes the creation and existence of a Trust. More importantly: the name they gave this Trust is not your name, the number they gave the Trust is not your number and your lending actual consciousness and physical capacity to this Trust’s Trustee capacity does not limit you or your capacity to separately act in your natural sovereign capacity in any way—what you do, when you do it and how you do it is still totally up to you.

        13th: In 1944, under the Bretton Woods Agreement, Corp. U.S. is quit claimed to the International Monetary Fund, and becomes a foreign controlled private corporation.

        14th: In 1962, at the National Governor’s Conference in Lexington, Kentucky, the IMF leaders of the event proposed the dilemma the State governors were in for carrying out their business dealings in Federal Reserve Notes (foreign notes), which is forbidden in the national and State constitutions, alleging that if they did not do something to protect themselves the people would discover what had been done with their money and would likely to kill them all and start over. They suggested the States form corporations like Corp. U.S. and showed the advantages of the resultant uniform codes that could be created, which would allow better and more powerful control over the people, which thing the original jurisdiction governments of this nation had no capacity to do. Our Constitutions secure that the governments do not govern the people rather they govern themselves in accord with the limits of Law. The people govern themselves. Such is the foundational nature of our Constitutional Republic.

        15th: By 1971, every State government in the union of States had formed such private corporations (Corp. State), in accord with the IMF admonition, and the people ceased to seat original jurisdiction government officials in their State government seats.

        Now, having stated these historical facts, we ask you not to believe us, but rather prove these facts for yourself. We then ask you to contact us and share your discovery with us.

        When you find there is no error in this historical outline, then remember these simple facts and let no one dissuade you from the truth.

        The Bottom Line: when you speak about these private foreign corporations remember that is what they are and stop calling them government.

        Further, it is very important that we cease to attempt to fix them. It is far more important that we learn how to reseat our original jurisdiction government and spread the word about the truth. By reseating our State and national governments in their original jurisdiction nature, we gain the capacity to hold these private foreign corporations accountable. They owe us a lot of money, in fact they owe us more money than there is available in the world. In fact it is impossible for them to pay and that gives us the leverage we need to take back our nation and put things right. The process is a simple one. The difficulty is in getting our people to wake up to the truth. That’s why we ask you to prove the truth for yourself and contact us with your discovery.

        That means that you must stop acting and communicating like you are anything other than the sovereign that God created you to be. And, stop referring to Corp. U.S. or the STATE OF ‘X’ as anything other than the private foreign corporations that they are. And, finally, stop listening to the Bigfoot Patriot Mythology that is espoused by those that only give these facts lip service.

        It’s time to wake up and follow the truth, time to repent and become a moral and honorable society instead of lauding our Piety while we stand guilty of:
        a) not knowing the truth;
        b) not living the truth;
        c) believing God will save us even though we have the tools to know the truth the ability to use the tools but we refuse to live by the truth and use the tools we have to save ourselves and thereby become free.

        The biggest problem with that get all excited about uniting against the tyranny of Corp. U.S. is that they are blind to the truth having no remedy so they bail out of “the system” hell bent for a rebellion even the scripture says cannot be won with conventional weapons of war. Would that we could instead follow the admonition of the King of Kings and unite with truth to legally, lawfully and peacefully reseat our original jurisdiction government thereby taking back the control our nation in accord with law.

      • ACTNOW says:

        Most people prefer to believe their leaders are just and fair even in the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges that the government under which they live is lying and corrupt, the citizen has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of a corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose to do nothing is to surrender one’s self-image of standing for principles. Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give moral cowards an excuse not to think at all.”
        – Michael Rivero

      • Rod James says:

        AverageJoe, What a brilliant post! It says it all and like I have said in the past politics is just the side show to #1 Keep the Sheeple busy and #2 make the good patriots think they can change the system with their vote.It saddens me to know that very brave,moral and patriotic men and women the world over for hundreds of years have marched off to slaughter just to increase the corporations BOTTOM LINE! The future will need these same people to fight for a real free America that is free from the corporation.They will have to fight to have the original(not the patriot act)constitution followed by the government elected buy the people for the people.

      • Average Joe says:

        Normal Guy,
        Next…who to Blame:
        This article was written sometime in the 1980′s, as referenced by the population, Tip O’Neil, Lebanon etc. Everything is still valid.

        THE 545 PEOPLE
        RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL
        OF AMERICA’S WOES

        BY CHARLEY REESE

        Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.

        Have you ever wondered why, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, we have deficits? Have you ever wondered why, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, we have inflation and high taxes?

        You and I don’t propose a federal budget. The president does. You and I don’t have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does. You and I don’t write the tax code. Congress does. You and I don’t set fiscal policy. Congress does. You and I don’t control monetary policy. The Federal Reserve Bank does.

        One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president and nine Supreme Court justices – 545 human beings out of the 235 million – are directly, legally, morally and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

        I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered but private central bank.

        I excluded all but the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman or a president to do one cotton-picking thing. I don’t care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it.

        No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislation’s responsibility to determine how he votes.

        A CONFIDENCE CONSPIRACY

        Don’t you see how the con game that is played on the people by the politicians? Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

        What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of Tip O’Neill, who stood up and criticized Ronald Reagan for creating deficits.

        The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it. The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating appropriations and taxes.

        O’neill is the speaker of the House. He is the leader of the majority party. He and his fellow Democrats, not the president, can approve any budget they want. If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto.

        REPLACE SCOUNDRELS

        It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 235 million cannot replace 545 people who stand convicted — by present facts – of incompetence and irresponsibility.

        I can’t think of a single domestic problem, from an unfair tax code to defense overruns, that is not traceable directly to those 545 people.

        When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

        If the tax code is unfair, it’s because they want it unfair. If the budget is in the red, it’s because they want it in the red. If the Marines are in Lebanon, it’s because they want them in Lebanon.

        There are no insoluble government problems. Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take it.

        Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exist disembodied mystical forces like “the economy,” “inflation” or “politics” that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

        Those 545 people and they alone are responsible. They and they alone have the power. They and they alone should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses – provided they have the gumption to manage their own employees.

        This article was taken from the Orlando Sentinel Star newspaper

        When you figure this out, remember this:

        The government has lots of bills to pay (all of those bailouts, buyouts, loans from the Federal Reserve etc.), which by the way 75% of the American people were against. The government needs us in order to pay those bills (ie. Taxes). I say cut the bastards off completely! Stop paying them (to continue paying them only encourages them to keep doing the same things).

        By cutting them off financially, we get their attention…that, or they cease to exist.

        If by chance their creditors decide to foreclose on them, who really cares? The creditors get the District of Columbia and all of it’s territories (Guam, Puerto Rico, Gitmo etc.), again….who really cares? The creditors do not get the states as the states did not contract with them…the National Government did. We can always built a new Federal Capitol and elect a new National Government (and for the first time in many years….be idiot free)…….Stop paying them…

      • Normal Guy says:

        Just started researching your post. I am digging into each statement and so far the whole thing seems quite clearly to be a fabricated conspiracy theory with no basis in fact.

        You clearly got this off of a web site, have you ever done any research to confirm its statements because I am looking and finding nothing. If there is any kind of confirmation I wouuld be interested in seeing it.

        Like I said so far no support for any of it, just because it is on the internet or written somewhere does not mean that it is true. Show me.

      • Normal Guy says:

        Joe – get a grip

        OK so now I have done some research. This is without doubt the most groundless conspiracy theory tin hat garbage I have ever read. “The US has two flags a military flag and a civil flag. The civil flag has stripes running Vertical not horizontal. The reason that we use the horizontal flag is because we are under marshal law.” etc. The parallel US entity U.S. Corp runs everything as a shadow and everyone in politics buys into the deception to keep us all owned by seven families. Wow you need help.

        If this is the kind of garbage that you are basing your positions on you are standing in quicksand. The level of paranoia required to buy into this conspiracy is unimaginable. I hope that no one is selling you any guns because your level of delusion would make you dangerous to the general public.

        I have some friends who are psychologists, I am coping your posts to show them. Can’t wait to hear what they think.

      • Average Joe says:

        Normal Guy,
        Actually sir, I have done the research and I could find nothing untrue. Every law every act…all of it is stated in the text above.
        If you cannot do the research (which took me about a month or so, to cross reference etc.), that is not my problem. As stated…do your own research…it doesn’t matter whether or not anyone else has read it…if you want the truth sir, you need to seek it out yourself. I have given you the tools…whether or not you choose to use them…makes absolutely no difference to me…at all.

      • Average Joe says:

        Obviously, you have not done the research. There are hundreds of pages of documents to go through. You appear to be the kind of person that reads a line or two of something and if it doesn’t agree with your preconceived thinking…that is as far as you go…if you actually read anything at all. First you stated that you could find nothing…then 5 minutes later, you post that you have done the research…who do you want to believe that?…me or you? I ain’t buying your tainted goods sir.You may think that you are convincing me…but you are only deluding yourself. I have nothing to lose by your ignorance…so please don’t delude yourself to the contrary. Enjoy your bliss.

      • Rod James says:

        Mr.Joe, I found this site on the web!! Many points of view and opinions!What if what he is saying is true then it’s you who is deluded to think that this type of manipulation of government and people are conspiracy and don’t exist.READ ECONOMIC HIT MAN and tell me there isn’t a small group of people pulling strings to profit from unsuspecting AVERAGE JOES around the world to advance US domination.

      • Rod James says:

        Whoops! My reply was to Normal Guy. I am too tired to see straight so I’m hitting the sack now! Talk nice boys and girls!!

      • Normal Guy says:

        Rod I don’t have any doubt that there are power plays going on with governments and corporations. I just don’t buy any of the tin hat stuff that this conspiracy that Average Joe has referenced.

        Economic Hit Man certainly has lots of interesting points, the same types of power plays that were utilized by the US in the Middle East at the start of the oil discoveries there were ten cents a barrel is what the countries originally got from chevron etc.

        So are there covert, underhanded things going on? Of course, I would argue that if you have read Economic Hit Man that this is an element of foreign policy, start with economic leverage, then political, then military. Special interests have always been in play, so I guess I don’t understand what you are saying is relevant, real world versus garbage about the US being under Martial Law, Shadow government Corp US… just silly

    • Beberoni says:

      Thats amazing. He did this in two weeks of a presidency. Before he thought of doing anything. Wow.

  115. DaveH says:

    We need to quit being so hard on the Socialists. Would it be so difficult for us to be more cooperative and worship alongside the Liberals at their altar of greed for other peoples’ money?
    I mean, why can’t we just admire their kind of people who achieve their power by flapping their lips? What is the alternative? Are we to be so misled as to instead worship people who achieved their wealth by working hard, sacrificing, and taking educated risks? How gross!
    You should be thankful for the cake that the elite will toss you. Now, quit being whining hateful racists, line up in that bread line with the rest of us, and shut up!

    • eyeswideopen says:

      Well, you seem to think that the liberals all got their money from cheating poor unsuspecting Repubs, and stealing the rest. How much more narrow minded could you get. Talk about generalizing about a topic. You take the cake. You claim the Dems are running everything, doesn’t that mean they do some work? Can’t imagine the Repubs letting the Dems just reap all the rewards and sitting around doing absoutely nothing. Shouldn’t there be riots in the streets? Let me see, 59.8 million Democrats sitting around, owning all the business’ shouting orders to the poor Republicans, and stealing their money. Where is the uprising? You are a little off on your viewpoint of the world.

      • Beberoni says:

        Researce Joe Kennedy if you want to see how the typical left wing democrat “earned” his money. Wow. Talk about a crook. The sins of the fathers shall be revisited upon 3 generations. They still are paying.

  116. Average Joe says:

    For those that cling to the liberal side of life,
    What happens when the rich get tired of paying higher taxes to support more and more socialistic programs that we claim as “rights”?
    What happens if the rich decide to pack up their “toys” and go home?(and eventually they will).
    They will no longer be paying the taxes to support those “programs” .
    There will be more unemployment(since they took there “toys and went home… ie. their businesses), (I have never had a poor person offer me a job)….and….they will still have the “toys” to play with anyway they choose.This is a losing proposition for the people…from any angle.

    • Norm says:

      Average Joe
      You sound like a slave.
      If your rich masters abandon you, then mercy, what will you do. The question should be: what will they do?
      Their toys are you. They don’t print money, they earn it with the help of those that they employ. Slave owners couldn’t make money cotton farming without slaves. Boeing CEO’s can’t make mega million dollar paychecks without the thousands of employees who create and build the products they sell. We need risk takers and inovative managers to be sure, but we also need workers on all levels. The high rollers are taxed at a max rate of 35%, and there are plenty of loop holes. In fact if your income is derived from stock manipulations, the tax rate for long term capital gains (1 yr min)is 15%. When Ike was president the highest tax rate was in the 90% range! The ratio of top management to worker pay was also less. It’s currently in the 600 range.
      So I think a small tax increase will not scare to many executives away, and there are plenty of candidates to take their place.

      • Average Joe says:

        Norm,
        You are free to make any assumptions about me that wish sir, that is of course one of your rights…at least according to those documents that to you don’t really think should apply… “because the circumstances that faced the founding fathers were substantially different”.Maybe you should sit down and read those documents as well as the Federalist Papers and Articles of Confederation…in order to have a little understanding about the underling reasoning and fears that the Founders had against a government left unchecked and unrestrained by the the people…who are their masters.

        Those that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
        Benjamin Franklin (1706–1790)

        The deterioration of every government begins with the decay of the principles on which it was founded.
        Montesquieu (1689–1755)

        Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.
        Noah Webster (1758–1843)

        Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something.
        Plato (427–347 BC)

    • DaveH says:

      Average,
      Everyone knows that we don’t need the business owners. You don’t think that elected officials who have never run a business can’t employ us just as well as anybody? Of course they can. Just ask Stalin or Mao or Fidel. Didn’t they provide great livings for their people? And for those who disagreed – didn’t they send them to a better place?
      What kind of nuts would worship business people with all their opulence when instead we can worship the elected leaders with all their opulence?
      I don’t know what is wrong with you Average; how selfish you are to want to keep the money you earned while others were partying. You should submit willingly to their hands in your pocket. How hateful and racist can you be?

      • Average Joe says:

        DaveH,
        lmao…sorry I can’t stop laughing…now my ribs hurt…and it’s all your fault.How dare you force your sense of humor on me….why I never…..lol

      • Beberoni says:

        We dont need no business leaders and successful business’s in this country. All they do is hire people and pay them money so that they can earn a living. Tax them all to death and make them move to Mexico, then put millions on unemployement and keep them dependant on the big government so that the government can have more power. Gee, doesnt that sound familiar. Ive seen this somewhere. Where was it?

    • Dee D says:

      Average Joe – The richest of the rich has never truly financed this country or her citizens. They have many off shore accounts showing how little respect and lack of loyalty toward anyone but themselves. They want it all and to hadies with anyone who gets in their way.

      • Beberoni says:

        Well, I for one do not know how it feels to be rich. But if I was, I sure wouldnt want Barack to take what I have, via educating myself, working hard and applying myself, and making myself sucessful, and then Barack and his democrats want to punish me for being sucessful, and give my cash to some gang banger on a porch, that sits around all day drinking 40′s and smoking cigarettes, because he has better things to do that get a job. Well, I for one, along with millions of others, got a problem with that. I call it, get a job dude. I did it, I pay my taxes, I pay my mortgage, my insurance, my gas, electric, water, cable, groceries, kids, school, and all that. I work and I pay. Dont punish me for my hard work, by taking from me and giving to those that dont feel like working. I give 10 percent of my income to my church right off the top, first thing, every week. Then I give to my local rescue mission, and Make-A-Wish, and other solid charities. Let me decide where to give my money. I do not need a big government telling me they are going to take my money and do what they damn well please with it. Sorry, but I cannot respect that. This is what your dems want to do, and you are willing to go along like a sheep to the slaughter, as if you are working, they will fleece you also. I really dont want punished for working hard. Those that dont want to work need punished. Quit giving them weekly handouts, and they will go to work.

  117. Norm says:

    Yr 1954-63 low% 20 max amt 4,000 high% 91 amt over 400,000
    Yr 200 low% 10 max amt 16,050 high% 35.0 amt over 357,700

    taxes then and now

  118. Norm says:

    second year 2008

  119. Norm says:

    From 1992 to 2005, the average CEO saw his or her pay rise by 186.2%, while the median worker saw wages rise by 7.2%.

    CEOs in the U.S. earn more than two times the average of CEOs in other wealthy countries.

    And we no GM top brass make better cars than Toyota or BMW.

    In his January 2007 “State of the Economy” speech, President George W. Bush warned against excessive CEO salaries and bonuses, adding that CEO compensation should be tied to performance.

    Fourteen percent of option grants to top executives between 1996 and 2005 were “backdated or otherwise manipulated.”

    • JeffH says:

      Good information and keep your focus on GWB.

    • DaveH says:

      Norm,
      The answer to this is to start your own company. That way you can pay your happy employees an exorbitant wage and pay yourself well also. Of course you will find out that the government wants to micro-manage your business decisions. Never mind that they not only don’t have any skin in the game but they are actually taking skin out of your game. But hey, you like them so everything will be okay. You might also find that some people aren’t productive no matter how much you pay them, but you have a kind heart so you can take it. Of course you really won’t have much of a choice in that matter if you live in a state that protects the workers from the Big Bad Norm who would be so awful as to fire a worker who doesn’t want to produce.

      • Beberoni says:

        Norm cant start his own business now Dave, because since Bush is gone, when it would fall and collapse, he wouldnt have anyone to blame it on.

    • Beberoni says:

      Dont know what kind of liberal check list you got your figures from, but during those years, my pay more than doubled. Thats a fact jack. My pay doubled. And GM’s cars cannot touch Honda’s or Toyota’s or Subarus. If they could, then why in the hell did we have to give them billions of dollars, and these other guys nothing? Well, other than buying UAW votes for the future?

  120. Cygnet1 says:

    It’s time to forget all this rhetoric and remember that if we want to change the path that this country is being taken down, we as voters (if we bother to get up from our easy chairs) can make a change that gets everyone’s attention, especially those in elected office.
    There will be several local, state and federal government elections in 2010.
    Start by discovering who is runnng for office, why they are running for office and first and foremost if they are the encumbant.
    None of the name calling or talk will put Humpty Dumpty together again or put the worm back in the can.
    Want to make a difference, become we the people again, and get out and vote. Send a message, let those who are elected know they work for us and we can fire them when they do not listen to us or respect who we are and what kind of a nation we want.

    • JeffH says:

      Well stated!

      • DaveH says:

        Jeff,
        I posted this earlier, but I wanted to repost it where you are more likely to see it. The King of Liberal Double-Speak made the statement “Interesting that there are never angry mobs of liberals threatening people and calling for violence.”
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k0Y7_5a5d0

        No doubt he will put his usual Liberal spin on this one. Liberals aren’t violent as long as they get their way.
        Has anyone got footage of this kind of behavior at the Tea Parties? Other than that displayed by SEIU or ACORN?

      • DaveH says:

        Another point I would like to make. Liberals are all about force. They couldn’t have their Big Government agendas without it. And force is all about violence. Laws would not be obeyed without the threat of violence.

      • Sorry says:

        This is where u continue to not make any sense. During G20 meetings groups, liberals, conservatives, righties; lefties, labor, green…came from all over the world, each group with its own agenda. u just can’t lump it on any one group. DaveH learn some worl politics and stop listening to Glenn Beck and shawn insanity or conspiracy theorists.

      • DaveH says:

        Sorry,
        My definition of a Liberal is anyone who wants to grow government. So a lot of Republicans fall under that label, as well as most Democrats. Show me a G20 protestor who wants to shrink government and I’ll eat Crow.

      • DaveH says:

        And Sorry,
        How do you know what I know about “Worl” politics? That is the kind of unfounded statement a typical Liberal makes. And my guess is that you haven’t listened to Glenn Beck much; you are probably getting your info on Glenn from some Liberal news source or a fellow Liberal.
        Stick your head out of that shell, you might find a wonderful world of knowledge that awaits your eager mind.

      • JeffH says:

        They(G20 protesters) sure made the “angry Mobs” look peacefull even though they only got about 95% less coverage.

      • ccg says:

        Liberals don’t hate either except for Conservatives and anyone who doesn’t agree with them.

      • Beberoni says:

        Liberals are only hateful when they are alone or with someone. Other than that, theyre nice guys.

      • JeffH says:

        I watched it after your first link up.

      • Normal Guy says:

        Oh Dopey Dave

        Anarchists are liberals??

        Anarchists believe in no government, does that sound familiar to some other dopey theory? Oh right Libertarians believe in no government, isn’t that your favourite solution to America’s problem?

        You really are hysterically funny sometimes. Anarchy, the circled A is really the extreme libertarian position, no government interference, the ultimate individual freedom, are you marching with these guys, is that your point.

        You really don’t quite get it do you?

  121. Average Joe says:

    Norm,
    Let me give you a head start. Copy and paste any of the below terms into your browser and hit go…many sites will come up for each of the terms…pick any or all of them and read the entire article on the subject…compare it to other articles, then draw a logical conclusion. I will not do the work for you…that would serve no purpose.You now have a starting point from which to begin.Do the research or don’t…it’s your call.
    Each term was taken directly from the above post.

    General Orders No. 100
    Trading With the Enemy Act Public Law 65-91
    War Powers act of 1933
    District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871
    The Federal Reserve Act of 1913
    The 16th Amendment
    BRUSHABER v. UNION PACIFIC R. CO., 240 U.S. 1 (1916)
    17th amendment
    Nom De Guere…Name in War…or Law of Names
    United States General Trust Fund (GTF)

    • Normal Guy says:

      I have done that.

      You clearly don’t have any way of understanding what you read. Many of these events took place but the twisted conspiracy that is woven around them is only varified by conspiracy sites. Read the actual documents and history around them. Here is an example that counters the opening arguement that martial law was never rescinded.

      April 27, 1861 – Habeas Corpus Suspended. Abraham Lincoln authorizes the suspension of the Writ of Habeas Corpus in a limited area between Washington and New York in an order issued to Winfield Scott, Commander of the Army: “You are engaged in repressing an insurrection against the laws of the United States. If at any point on or in the vicinity of the military line which is now used between the city of Philadelphia via Perryville, Annapolis City and Annapolis Junction you find resistance which renders it necessary to suspend the writ of habeas corpus for the public safety, you personally or through the officer in command at the point where resistance occurs are authorized to suspend that writ.” A challenge was mounted to Lincoln’s action in ex parte Merryman (1861). On May 25, 1861, John Merryman, a Maryland resident and avowed secessionist, was arrested and detained in Fort McHenry. In April 1861, Chief Justice Roger B. Taney, then sitting on the Circuit Court bench, found that Merryman was being held unlawfully and issued a writ of habeas corpus. General George Cadwalader, in command of Fort McHenry, refused to obey the writ, however, on the basis that President Abraham Lincoln had suspended habeas corpus and citing the fact that he was acting in compliance with an Executive Order. Taney cited Cadwalader for contempt of court and then wrote an opinion about Article I, Section 9, of the Constitution, which allows suspension of habeas corpus “when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it.” Taney argued that only Congress—not the president—had the power of suspension. Indeed the Constitution (Article 1, Section 9) is silent on who can make the decision to suspend. Lincoln simply ignored Taney’s order. President Lincoln justified his action in a message to Congress in July 1861.The limited suspension of habeas corpus was rescinded on February 14, 1862. Merryman was later released. The constitutional question of who has the right to suspend habeas corpus, Congress or the president, has never been officially resolved.

      It scares the hell out of me that people take such extreme positions based on dubious information. Doin’t be such dopes, just because you read it does not make it true. Goid save America.

    • Normal Guy says:

      Here is a bit more. I don’t need to reference every element because anyone with just the slightest critical eye can see what silly garbage this theory is. Just wanted to give you a hard example so that you could see how ridiculous it is.

      Dec. 1, 1865. President Johnson, by proclamation, restored the privilege of the writ, except in the late insurrectionary states, and in the District of Columbia, New Mexico and Arizona. April 2, 1866, a proclamation restored the writ everywhere, except in Texas; and another proclamation, Aug 20, 1866, restored it in Texas also.

      We are not under martial law. The idea that there is a Corp US behind everything and that seven families own it and all of us is just beyond ridiculous. honestly, think about it, do you really think that no one would notice? Is everyone in power in on it? I mean come on get real.

      • Average Joe says:

        Normal Guy,
        Everything you just posted prove that up until that date…everything actually happened, so you prove my point. The only problem is…you didn’t finish the research. You simply read a portion…decided that it didn’t agree with your “view” and dismissed it as patently false. As evidence I provide the following from your post:

        April 27, 1861 – Habeas Corpus Suspended. Abraham Lincoln authorizes the suspension of the Writ of Habeas Corpus in a limited area between Washington and New York in an order issued to Winfield Scott, Commander of the Army: “You are engaged in repressing an insurrection against the laws of the United States. If at any point on or in the vicinity of the military line which is now used between the city of Philadelphia via Perryville, Annapolis City and Annapolis Junction you find resistance which renders it necessary to suspend the writ of habeas corpus for the public safety, you personally or through the officer in command at the point where resistance occurs are authorized to suspend that writ.”
        The LIMITED suspension of habeas corpus was rescinded on February 14, 1862.
        Dec. 1, 1865. President Johnson, by proclamation, restored the privilege of the writ,EXCEPT in the late insurrectionary states, and in the District of Columbia, New Mexico and Arizona.
        April 2, 1866, a proclamation restored the writ everywhere, EXCEPT in Texas
        Aug 20, 1866, restored it in Texas also.
        (my post did not stop in 1866)

        All of these things are facts as admitted to by your own posting…how about finishing the research?
        …BTW, I am still wondering what all of that rambling on about “Flags” had to do with anything…I don’t recall mentioning flags…since they really have no bearing on anything, other than it does have official specifications:
        http://www.bing.com/search?q=official+US+flag+specifications&FORM=MSNH11&qs=n

        If you went to any site talking about “flag jurisdictions”, you are way off base with my views. I know about the groups who support the flag “theory”. I myself do not buy into it…it isn’t addressed in the constitution and therefore has no relevance.
        I feel that any further dialog with you would just be a waste of my time (something valuable… which can never be replaced).
        Good day sir, may your creator bless everyone in your life.

      • Normal Guy says:

        Average Joe

        Well it is clear that you don’t understand what you are reading. Restoring the writ means that habeous corpus is reinstated. It is the end of marshall law.

        So like I said, the whole theory from it’s starting point is bogus. The flag issue is part of this theory if you do any research, which you may have attempted but clearly don’t understand, this is what you will find.

        Don’t believe it just because you don’t understand it, conspiracies are generally garbage.

        Good luck with your life, I wish you success.

  122. lember says:

    Chip Wood IS the incarnation of “Vomitorium”.

    • JeffH says:

      Chip Wood is brilliant in his presentations. Don’t you libs just “hate” it?

      • Smilee says:

        Don’t hate him or it, just totally unimpressed with this guy, but he always seems to bring you guys out of the wood work

      • JeffH says:

        Smilee, don’t sound so gloomy, after all, you guys won! Remember?

      • Beberoni says:

        Its just that they reject the truth, and it screw them up then they come in here and spew their vitrial askewed words all over, never really making much sense, just trying to push their agenda, and find other wack jobs that make them feel that its ok to be un-American like they are. Thats pretty much how it is.

    • JeffH says:

      lember, You can always rejoin your real friends at MSNBC’s Newsvine! We surley won’t miss your commentary.

  123. lee says:

    Obama – who today won the Nobel Peace Prize – while a Senator in Chicago, blocked the Born Alive Infant Protection Act. The Act eventually passed in Illinois despite Obama’s opposition. Please read the full report on this at Citizenlink. Here is an excerpt:

    “One night, a nursing co-worker was taking an aborted Down’s syndrome baby who was born alive to our Soiled Utility Room because his parents did not want to hold him, and she did not have time to hold him. I could not bear the thought of this suffering child dying alone in a Soiled Utility Room, so I cradled and rocked him for the 45 minutes that he lived. He was 21 to 22 weeks old, weighed about ½ pound, and was about 10 inches long. He was too weak to move very much, expending any energy he had trying to breathe. Toward the end, he was so quiet that I couldn’t tell if he was still alive unless I held him up to the light to see if his heart was still beating through his chest wall. After he was pronounced dead, we folded his little arms across his chest, wrapped him in a tiny shroud, and carried him to the hospital morgue where all of our dead patients are taken…”

    Obama opposed Born Alive in committee, but voted “present” — neither “yes” nor “no,” but merely “present” — on the state Senate floor…

    “What we are doing here is to create one more burden on women, and I can’t support that,” Obama concluded, and voted “no” in committee again.

    “[T]his [legislation] puts the burden on the attending physician who has determined, since they are performing this procedure, that in fact, this is a nonviable fetus.”

    Even though the child lives and breathes on its own, Obama advocated murdering the child.

  124. Robert says:

    So BHO got the Nobel Peace Prize. Who shives a git.

  125. JeffH says:

    Is there a GEORGE SOROS connection in the NPP awarded to Obama?

    In 2006, EITI’s governing secretariat was set up in Norway and placed under Soros management, with money from Open Society Institute and EITI board members from Soros agencies Publish What You Pay, Revenue Watch Institute, and Global Witness.
    In 2006 George Soros was a sponsor of EITI in Norway. EITI is the Extractive Industries Transparency Initiative. It began when the George Soros organization known as Publish What You Pay, aided by propaganda from the Soros-funded Global Witness group, demanded that nations with valuable natural resources be compelled to turn over to mutinational cartels and to the British government, all records of their transactions on these resources — so as to stop bribes! This included all locations and records of oil and gas in each country. Bear in mind that the government of Norway owns one of the most successful oil companies in the world, Statoil. We also have a Nobel Prize committee member who serves on the Board of Statoil. Mr. Soros has had many trips over the past few years to Norway and has been quoted in their news and magazines on multiple occasions.

    Over the past few years is widely known that financial support has been given by George Soros to the Norwegians. Connect the dots. Name another time when the Nobel commmittee has chosen to name someone as the prize recipient for “what they may do in the future”? Maybe you can think of a way to explain all of these relationships and the result we just witnessed. Add a guy with KGB affiliation, a person from the socialist left, at least one person who has reaped direct benefits from George Soros, and the Norwegian government who is very grateful to their philanthropist friend and what do we have?

    • JeffH says:

      Soros Gives $5 Million to Liberal Health Care Group
      Billionaire George Soros is weighing in on the U.S. healthcare battle, pledging $5 million to a coalition of left-wing groups seeking the so-called “public option” — socialized medicine. But activists are disappointed that the group Soros quietly contributed to — Health Care For America Now, the leading coalition of pro-reform groups, unions and providers — hasn’t been nearly as aggressive in pushing Democrats toward the public option.
      http://www.thefoxnation.com/george-soros/2009/08/11/soros-gives-5-million-liberal-health-care-group

    • JeffH says:

      Very interesting read on the real power behind the Democratic Party and Obama.
      http://www.aim.org/special-report/the-hidden-soros-agenda-drugs-money-the-media-and-political-power/

      The Hidden Soros Agenda: Drugs, Money, the Media, and Political Power
      Special Report | By Cliff Kincaid | October 27, 2004
      Soros may be the biggest political fat cat of all time.

      Among the candidates who ran for the Democratic presidential nomination, Soros financially supported John Kerry, Wesley Clark, Senator Bob Graham, and Howard Dean. He has been praised by Senator Hillary Clinton and contributed to her Senate campaign and political action committee. He has also contributed to the political campaigns of Democratic Senators Tom Daschle, Carl Levin, John Corzine, Mary Landrieu, Debbie Stabenow, Charles Schumer, Joseph Biden, Patrick Leahy, Paul Sarbanes, Thomas Harkin, and Barbara Boxer. In 2002, Soros funded Al Gore for president and contributed $153,000 in “soft money” to the Democratic National Committee. Soros, who is also very close to Bill Clinton, was described by Clinton’s Deputy Secretary of State Strobe Talbott as a “national treasure.”

      Soros has also contributed to Barack Obama, running for the Senate as a Democrat from Illinois. CNSNews.com reports that, “Not only did Soros donate to Obama’s campaign, but four other family members – Jennifer, sons Jonathan and Robert and wife Susan – did as well. Because of a special provision campaign finance laws, the Soroses were able to give a collective $60,000 to Obama during his primary challenge.”

      • billy says:

        HEY JEFF, WHY DON’T YOU TELL THE PEOPLE ABOUT CLIFF KINCAID, THE AUTHOR OF YOUR POST:

        CLIFF KINCAID

        http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/2008/obamakincaid.html

      • JeffH says:

        Hey Billy, why don’t you look at all of the links between Obama and George Soros. They are plastered all over the web. Continue on like all of the other sheeple that believe he is their savior. He has been exposed. Americans everywhere are seeing the mistake that was made at the polls.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Jeff, you need to start up a George Soros group. You are blaming that man for everything. Oh, reminds me of Cheney, who actually did hijack the Constitution. Keep going, you get that old Soros and see if you can find anything illegal he has done, if so , get a lawyer and sue the crap outta him.

      • DaveH says:

        George Soros quote:
        “The main difference between me and other people who have amassed this kind of money is that I am primarily interested in ideas, and I don’t have much personal use for money. But I hate to think what would have happened if I hadn’t made money: My ideas would not have gotten much play.”
        His net worth is estimated at over $8 Billion. He has given away $5 Billion since 1991 (18 years). That’s about 280 million a year or about 3.5% of his net worth each year. If his top tax bracket is 40% (it’s probably higher) and he earned only 7% each year on his money (not hard for an astute investor) that would mean that his actual donation was only about 1% of his net worth each year. Hardly a monumental amount for a man of his net worth.
        He “doesn’t have much personal use for money”. That’s funny, then why isn’t he donating a lion’s share of that fortune to help those people he claims need help? No, as with most bleeding hearts, he wants to perform his charity with other people’s money. With the amount of money he spends to bend politics, he could be buying health insurance or food for a lot of families. Smooth talkers make me ill.
        All I ask from creeps like Soros is to leave me alone so I can make my own decisions for my own life.

      • billy says:

        “He has been exposed.”
        Sounds like the faux “news” sheep are at it again.
        George Soros.

        You said Americans are seeing they made a mistake at the polls.
        Like who? Your statements are laughable jeff.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Daveh, Sheldon Adelson, much richer than Soros, net worth 26.8 Billion. Biggest donator to the Republican party. His tax rate is even smaller than Soros. He ws trying to buy Israel, and failed. But he is still using his money to bully the politicians. He also tried to buy a candidate running for the Congress. She turned him down, he went after her, but surprise, she won, by 3 percentage points. He wanted her to become a Republican.It’s documented in his bio. A normal person could probably figure out that since he has twice the money that Soros has he tries to purchase more people than that cheap George Soros. What the Republicans have a dirty rich person trying to fix elections, buy humans and was trying to purchase the whole of Israel? Can’t be!! B.S. This guy is just as bad, if not worse.

      • billy says:

        Anti-Obama Frenzy: The Case of Cliff Kincaid
        The Accuracy in Media writer’s attacks on Barack Obama include calling him a secret communist, making false claims, citing fictional characters, and essentially defending lynching as an all-American activity.
        By Terry Krepel
        Posted 5/15/2008

        ——————————————————————————–

        Like his ConWeb compadres Ronald Kessler and Aaron Klein, Accuracy in Media’s Cliff Kincaid has spent a good chuck of 2008 hurling various accusations and guilt-by-association smears at Barack Obama. Like the others, Kincaid makes his share of questionable claims — and Kincaid outdoes them by making a couple very loony ones.

        Kincaid took his first dip in the Obama-bashing pool in February 2007 by embracing the discredited claim issued by the Sun Myung Moon-controlled Insight website that Obama attended a radical Muslim madrassa as a child, insisting that it “cannot be easily dismissed” because Insight editor Jeffrey Kuhner is a “respected journalist” and a CNN report debunking the claim was “hastily-produced and superficial.” As ConWebWatch reported at the time, AIM even reprinted Kuhner’s screed against the New York Times for daring to raise questions about Insight’s story.

        Kincaid’s Obama-bashing began in earnest this year with a Jan. 28 column suggesting that Obama wants a “U.S. and U.N. military intervention” in Burma/Myanmar without offering any actual evidence (beyond advisers who may or may not specifically advocate it) that he does. Oddly, Kincaid never quite gets around to voicing opposition to Burma’s repressive military junta, instead complaining that Burma a place where “a place where the liberal internationalists are screaming for intervention.” (This column appeared before the junta’s blocking of international aid to victims of a deadly cyclone that hit Burma in early May; Kincaid has yet to weigh in on that development.)

        Related articles on ConWebWatch:
        Accuracy for Moonies?
        * * *
        Anti-Obama Frenzy: The Case of Aaron Klein
        Anti-Obama Frenzy: The Case of Ronald Kessler

        Kincaid ramped things up in a Feb. 12 column asserting that a Senate bill sponsored by Obama to fight global poverty “makes levels of U.S. foreign aid spending subservient to the dictates of the United Nations” and “would commit the U.S. to spending 0.7 percent of gross national product on foreign aid, which amounts to a phenomenal 13-year total of $845 billion over and above what the U.S. already spends.” In fact, as Media Matters detailed, the Global Poverty Act would establish no specific funding source, would not commit the United States to any targeted level of spending, nor would it give the U.N. the power to impose a tax on the U.S.
        In a Feb. 18 column, Kincaid asserted that a person Obama identified only as “Frank” in his first book, “Dreams From My Father,” as poet and activist Frank Marshall Davis. Kincaid described Davis as “publicly identified as a member of the Communist Party USA” and “a known communist who belonged to a party subservient to the Soviet Union.” But that appears to be a claim up for debate; as University of Iowa professor Mike Chasar wrote:

        Interestingly, anti-Obama crusaders know more about Davis (whom they call “Obama’s communist mentor”) than Obama’s own political party does. Like many individuals interested in combating American racism in the 1930s and 1940s, Davis worked with people affiliated with the Communist Party. He was never a card-carrying member himself; in fact, in “Livin’ the Blues” he calls himself “a solitary rebel” who avoided joining any organization at all.

        Nevertheless, the FBI assigned agents to track and harass Davis and his white wife when the two moved to Hawaii in 1949.

        More interesting than Davis’ association with supposed communists is the fact that his life doesn’t, in fact, fit into the categories by which either the right or the left tend to operate. Davis, for example, was a Republican who voted against Roosevelt throughout the 1930s. He spoke as a heterosexual black man on behalf of gay rights. He openly linked Jewish and black experiences of oppression and raged against America’s hypocrisy as it fought Nazi Germany while maintaining a race-based caste system at home.
        Still, Kincaid used Davis to accuse Obama of having a “secret political life” — a theme repeated throughout Kincaid’s attacks. A March 18 “AIM Report” that largely repeats Kincaid’s column on Davis played the “Manchurian candidate” card (a meme also advanced by WorldNetDaily) by asking in its headline, “Is Barack Obama A Marxist Mole?” (A subhead in the article read: “OBAMA’S SECRET SOCIALIST CONNECTIONS.”)

        In an April 30 column citing examples of Davis’ poetry, Kincaid placed under the subhead “Anti-American” a poem that referenced “sniping Dixie lynchers/In the jungles of Texas and Florida.” Is Kincaid really saying that lynching is a pro-American activity?

        Kincaid’s paranoia went completely off the rails, however, in a March 26 column in which he desperately declared that Obama probably supports the federal government paying slavery reparations because a fictional character reportedly based on Obama supported reparations. Seriously:

        One of the liberals’ favorite television shows, “West Wing,” about a fictional White House, also examined the controversy in the context of a controversial nominee for assistant attorney general for civil rights who advocated financial reparations for slavery.

        At the time, we noted that three veteran Democrats were advisers to the show. They were former Clinton White House press secretary Dee Dee Myers, former Carter official Patrick Caddell, and former Senate Democratic aide Lawrence O’Donnell. Time magazine reported that Conyers’ staff had sent along “200 pages of material on the issue of paying reparations to black Americans as compensation for slavery” to the producers.

        Interestingly, it has now been reported by The Guardian that one of the characters in the show, a presidential candidate, was modeled by one of the Democratic writers after Obama. The character in the program wins the presidency.

        If this happens in real life, we may finally find out where Obama really stands on the issue of reparations.
        Kincaid offered no evidence that Obama actually supports reparations. Still, the dubious accusation was repeated in an April 21 “AIM Report” (though not the fictional-character part).

        Despite that fraudulent attack, Kincaid continued on to promote the secret-commie meme. An April 23 column spewed overheated rhetoric, suggesting that, as a result of his association with former radical William Ayers and his wife, Bernardine Dohrn, Obama wants to turn your kids into terrorists and dope smokers:

        An objective observer might conclude that [William] Ayers, [Bernardine] Dohrn and their comrades are now dedicated to creating a new student and youth movement, like the one they participated in which eventually developed into a full-blown terrorist organization that killed our fellow citizens and tried to eliminate the “Thin Blue Line” of police separating us from the criminals.

        In this new crusade, they not only have an inspiring leader, Barack Obama, who attracts young people with his promise of “change,” but a moneybags named Soros, who has funded causes such as rights for convicted felons and legalization of dope.
        Kincaid claimed that “The real issue is whether Obama shares Ayers’ communist views” while offering nothing except guilt-by-association smears in response.

        Obama is not the only Democrat commie-obsessed Kincaid has tried to cast the commie taint upon Hillary Clinton as well in an April 30 column by discussing activist Tom Hayden, who Kincaid claimed “played a pivotal role in America’s Vietnam defeat and the deaths of millions”: “Is this the kind of ‘patriotism’ that Obama approves? What does Senator Clinton think of an Obama supporter who worked for an enemy victory in Vietnam?”

        Kincaid also repeated his claim that Davis’ poetry “was laced with anti-American sentiments” though the only “anti-American sentiment” Kincaid has cited is opposition to lynching.

        When you’re resorting to citing fictional characters and essentially defending lynching, that’s a clear sign that your arguments may not be all that solid.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Billy, they can’t admit that any of “their people” could ever be corrupt,and lying. They are following Glen Beck, another Mormon, Robert Welch. As a Baptist, I know we like that apocalptic preaching, but usually it is from preachers of our own faith, and not the Mormons. This will be a ride that observers will find so ironic. Thanks for info on the Hardy Boys, above. lol.

      • billy says:

        (“hardy boys” haha)

        I hope these Glenn Beck followers research to see that he is a mormon.

      • Beberoni says:

        Thats because we know we are right, and that you lefties are in the wrong. You guys are Satan’s pawns, so just admit it. You promote homo sexuality, you kill babies, you weaken America, you ban God from everywhere. Yep, your just wrong. I rest my case.

    • Beberoni says:

      Im telling you right now Jeff, that is our so called media had any interest in the truth about anything, like really reporting a true story, they would be tracking the money trail from Soro’s and they will find he bought and paid for this thing, then they also need to look deeper and find out just what Obama and his ilk are going to do for old Soro’s, because you and I both know, youve got to pay him back. He scratched O’s back, now the O has to scratch back. Whats it going to be? Our left wing liberal media doesnt care, and they wont do their job and research and report anything about it, because they are the propaganda outreach department of the democratic party, and everyone knows it. Then they wonder why their ratings are down, and why Fox News is up so much? Gee, I wonder why? Come on ABC,CBS, NBC, CNN and MSNBC. Get off your butt and get the story. Fox will try, but they get iced out by these wankers.

      • billy says:

        HEY BEBE- IS GLEN BECK A MORMON??? YES. and this is your “news” source.

      • Beberoni says:

        Well Billy, its like this. I dont really think he is. But if it turns out to be he is a Mormon, so what? I dont care if he is a Catholic, a Christian, a Methodist, a Baptist, a 7th day Adventist, a Lutheran, a Wesleyan or a Missionary, it doesnt matter. You see, with me, the truth is the truth is the truth, and Glen Beck speaks the truth. Ive never caught the man telling a lie, so I have the utmost respect for him. So unlike your lying liberal butt, Im not prejudiced against people like you are. I dont care what color, religion, race, color or creed the guy is, dont you get it. The truth is the truth, and the man speaks it. I suggest you stop seing people in colors, creeds or religions and judging them on that. Judge them by the content of their character please. His character is outstanding.

  126. JeffH says:

    The Nobel Committee wants to clarify that this is the Benedict Arnold Memorial Peace Prize, first given to the traitorous Jimmy Carter. Now if we can only get Jane Fonda to have a Kanye West moment at the ceremony.

  127. Carol says:

    Obviously, as of the last award given (snicker, snicker) the Nobel Peace Prize is of no more value than a trinket pulled from a Cracker-Jack box.
    Nobel Peace Prize indeed, snicker, snicker.

  128. Sandy5274 says:

    So,yes you betcha and less then one year in office,frankly we now have
    the Worst US President in History,and a lefty Nobel Peace Priize to
    boot,in His Royal Arrogance,The Embarassment to the United State,
    and Self Appointed Diety in the White House Barack Hussein Obama.
    And, I will predict right now Obama will be a One Term President,
    if he hasnot been Impeached after the 2010 Elections. God Save the USA from the likes of Messiah Fraud Barack Hussein Obama the Kenya
    Teleprompter Reader and AWOL Commander in Chief of the US Military.
    And,his pals Speaker Mad Madame Nancy Pelosi and Crazy Harry Reid.

  129. Quincy Sasrakus says:

    I think the people who see anything their president does as wrong are still sleeping in the past. Look you guys are talking about America being America. The rest of the world is not waiting for you to upgrade your industries, the world is moving forward with countries like China and India leading with full force. I think you better wake up and join the real 21st. century and help you Obama bring some respect and dignity to the USA. Enough of he is not worth it- because he is more than worth it, and you see where your super capitalist ideas brought you- ECONOMIC HARDSHIP- so wake up guys the world is still moving on

    • DaveH says:

      Wow, Now our heavily regulated economy is Super-Capitalist! Just a minute while I hunt for my blinders so I can join you. Baa a a, Baa a a.
      First the government gets Big, then more problems crop up, and the ones who are really benefitting (government) suggests that we need more of the same. So, government gets bigger, and still more problems crop up. So then the politicians suggest more poison to cure the illness. An endless cycle until they have spent us into oblivion.
      Do you Liberal Big Government lovers ever throw in the towel?

      • Norm says:

        I’m not for big government. This notion of pax america was tried (sans america)by many countries from Egypt through Greece, Rome, etc.
        Shrinking our government needs to start with dropping the self rightous superpower BS. Conservatives prior to Bush and Cheney have been in the antiwar camp. Also if it wasn’t for our support for Israel, we would never have been attacked.
        As far as big bussiness, they are no better than big government. I own stock in a number of companys and I am not allowed to vote on ceo’s nor on they compensation packages. At least I have some choice in government.

      • DaveH says:

        Norm,
        Do you have non-voting stock? I won’t hold non-voting stock for that very reason. Or maybe yours is in a mutual fund? I’m not sure if you can give input to your mutual fund or not, but you should ask them.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        After Congress does away with the anti-trust laws, reigns in the fraudsters on Wall Street, and stops all corporate subsidies, capitalism will work for everybody more readily. And even though most will still have off shore accounts at least the playing field won’t be stacked in favor of the Corporate monopolies as lopesided as they are now. Americans now know that regulations must be in place to stop the under handed dealings of the super rich who control Wall Street.

    • JeffH says:

      …or would you like America to be like your country, wherever that may be. We are supposed to be a free society “for the people, by the people and of the people”. This administration continually demonstrates that it is not “for the people”. I enjoy making my own choices, and I don’t like government making them for me! It was bad enough in the past, now government is out of control!

      • Norm says:

        It was really bad in the the past – the past 8 years.

      • Beberoni says:

        Maybe you did something wrong, because the last 8 years were really good to me. I doubled my pay, got married, bought a new house, bought a new car. Its been great. Now in the past year, Ive taken a 10 percent pay cut, because business’s dont want to invest right now, and understandably so, since they are going to need the cash to pay the new higher taxes that are being levied on them. And they also know the tax cuts are getting rescinded in 2010, which is right around the corner, and thats going to cost them more. So pretty much until 2012 when a Republican or Independant gets elected, things are going to continue to go down hill. Why, beside the tax problems these guys cause with raising them, they still havent any plans, other than to raise taxes and create more social programs. Everyone knew that coming in, and they still voted for them. However, there is a light. If you look right now at Virginia and New Jersey, you can see America was awoken. The change is definately coming, just not soon enough.

  130. Ragnor says:

    The problem is liberals, blood sucking parasitic liberals. They voted the idiot into office. The problem during any administration is liberals, there like cockroaches, you cannot get rid of them, if you squash one, their relatives show up in droves. When there are conservative administrations who could do the best to bring back responsibility, honesty, honorable intentions and a noble heart; liberals in Washington get in the way. Liberal politicians have created the New American Slave class, liberal parasites. This new slave class needs the Government (my money, your money) to provide them with housing, food, health care, child services, etc, these are all slaves to the government. They are incapable of standing up, doing the right thing, being responsible for their own lives, these pathetic people should be deported to a very liberal country in Europe, so the rest of us can save this country. You do know that real intelligence consist of, deductive reasoning, logic, cognitive thought and the ever elusive common sense, liberals are missing the gene that supplies these things. They therefore are not actually intelligent, when they look in a mirror they do not realize that they are alive, have choices in life, and can improve on what they are. If they did these well, they would be conservatives not liberals, they would grow as people instead of stagnating as a liberal, wanting what others earned.

    The only thing Obama is leading are all the liberal parasites who want to live off everyone else at my expense and yours. Liberals in my experience have no courage, Obama is a coward, a man without honor, his words mean nothing, he has never done what was good for all people, just what is good for his brother, and sister parasites, at everyone else’s expense; that is exactly what he is doing now, setting up to give everything to his liberal parasite friends, the bottom feeders, the unions, government workers, and every supposed minority group. The rest of us will just have to muddle through on our own.

    To all the union hacks, I spent a good portion of my life in unions. I learned that unions do some things well, but they do a lot more badly. Unions give lousy workers a place to hide and pay them a good workers wages. Unions always make sure their friends and buddies get in the union, so you end up with more employees than is needed in every case, (steel industry years ago, auto workers now, and every union shop), unions raise prices to everyone else, by striking for higher wages at everyone else expense. I never buy anything made in a union shop, I owe those parasites nothing. Unions and liberals do not understand the economics needed to keep a company in business, or a Country running. If any of us conducted our lives and finances like Obama and the liberals are doing, we would either be in jail, or transformed into a liberal waiting for our government check, because we would be completely financially destitute.

    Liberal politicians, exempt themselves from the rules of law, (Kennedy and Rangles come to mind), the rules of finance, and liberals citizens sit around fat and happy, as long as they get their piece of the pie.

    Liberal parasites are Americas most deadly enemy, they will destroy this country out of selfish greed for money and power. Liberals do not believe in raising themselves up to the challenge, they believe in pulling everyone else down to their level of squalor.

    • eyeswideopen says:

      Ragnor, you don’t even know where the goods are made that you purchase. Almost all cameras, phone, mobile phones, applicance, small applicances, leather goods, computers, clothing, rugs, towels, light fixtures, almost all our products are made overseas, so your statement is probably a down right lie. You are probably like the guy who said I only buy American, but my Honda was made in the US. LAMO.
      We don’t make anything anymore, our politicans trade our future away with the trade agreements. We do produce food. Take a look around your house and then get off your high horse. You used the Unions for your needs for many years, and now you want to stop others from doing the same thing. That my friend is hypocritical to say the least. DO as I say and not as I did? and you have the nerve to critize someone else? Get over yourself.

      • Beberoni says:

        In reference to your Honda remark. My buddys friend is a die hard union guy, and was attacking him for having his Honda. So my buddys friend, who works at a plant here in the US, that makes parts for Honda’s and other, went into his so called GM American made car, and it had more Japanese and other foreign made parts in it than the Honda does, which is made right here in the United States. And the thing you Japenese car bashers seen to not understand is this. After we rebuilt Japan, we taught them that the way to do business is to produce a quality product at a good price. Guess what, they listened. They still do it. GM and others decided to make cars dirt cheap with inferior cheap parts, and forgot about quality in their quest for the allmight dollar. The greed of the corporation and the greed of the union workers brougt them to their knees. I would think over this bailout they would have learned their lesson, but evidently not. I see the unions are allready asking for more money. Unbelievable. You buy their junk, Im not.

  131. Pantera362436 says:

    Without reading every single piece that has been posted here, and hopefully I will not be repeating another post with this subject, but some of you may have posted this information, read about it, or have heard about one interesting factor into the reason for the award of, or the “advancing” of this “Peace Prize”.

    Let me first say this though, I DO NOT AGREE that this Pussified President should receive any awards, prizes, and especially ANY MONIES, for doing absolutly NOTHING !!! He is the first President I cannot call President, respect, or look up to for guidence, as I have in the past with other Presidents, and I have lived through 11 Presidents. I thought Jimmy Carter was the worst President, but I even respect him enough to call him President, although as we ages, his mind spews raciest remarks that even the puriest of Southerners have held back. That is of course nothing against the South or Southerners, and infact, I have total respect for what I call that part of the country, “True Americans”.

    Here’s the information at hand … This “Peace Prize” was given to your “Puppet President” as an “Advance Prize” for services HE WILL HAVE TO PERFORM as the “Puppet”. I won’t call him a “Puppet Master” because he is no Master, not even at deception. Look into the man’s eyes, there is nothing there, except lies and deception, and NO SOUL. With that said, his “mission” is to “calm the masses”, before the “BIG DROP”. That big drop will be information and the introducing of “Alien Lifeforms” that are amoung us, in the government, business worlds, and have already mated with the general public, so it can and will be excepted by the masses. It is being done very carefully, as the “trust game”, that has been introduced to all of the lemmings of the world that love and adore him. I won’t say voted for him, because at least half of those lemmings have not gone over the cliff, and have seen the “True Obama”, and learned to reverse their course for the true and better cause.

    Ok, now that some of you continue your laughing, and you others know what is being said here, remember WHAT and WHO “your President” has embraced so far in his few short months, from behind the desk that President Clinton enjoyed an Intern’s Smile from under not to long ago… Mr. Obama will befriend anyone AND ANYTHING, and it has been shown.

    So, Thank You in “advance” Mr. Obama for your “friendship and understanding”, and here is a 1.4 MILLION dollar “advance” for the “peace”, that you will make sure overcomes this world of ours,
    at whatever cost to the masses and humanity, that is unlike ours.

    • JeffH says:

      ….I might add that the Nobel selection committee totaly direspected Alfred Nobel’s wishes by choosing Obama based on what he might do.

    • Victor says:

      Poor old Pantera, were you brought up in Disney Land ?
      The whole film about Lemmings was a Disney Joke. Lemmings do not, never have, or ever will jump off any cliff, EVER. It was all a load of **** from the Hollywood ‘make believe’ land of how to fool people.

      • Pantera says:

        Thanks Victor for the clarification about the Lemmings …

        I use this as an example, not a factual description. I could of said, any “followers”, such as the animals that cross rivers, when it’s filled with crocs and the lions are waiting on the other side …
        They never learn to stop and think that, THIS IS JUST ALL WRONG !!!
        In other words, the “Obama Followers” are “like Lemmings”.

        Oh and, as for Disneyland, I suppose that it is a fake also, and you never go to nor spend any of your minimal valued dollars there ??? It is fantasy, like Obama and his followers think !!! … It’s just a matter of time before they all and we face REALITY !!!

      • Victor says:

        Pantera, I do not believe that you fully understood about Lemmings ! The story of lemmings migrating and all jumping over a cliff is a Disney load of rubbish. If this was true it could only have ever once, there would be no lemmings left alive to do it ever again.
        Maybe you should carry on going to Disneyland, because there are other people there who believe micky mouse and goofy are real, after all, they can see that these characters are real, they can see them in front of them. I did not mention Disney Land, only Hollywood.

  132. csrdrunner says:

    Yes, he didn’t get the olympics, YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!! for America!!! his cronies did not get to make the millions they thought they were going to make.

    nobel peace prize (it is such a joke, I have no respect for the title nor those that selected him, therefore no caps here). Since he was in office less than 2 weeks, in my opinion it was a done deal BEFORE he took office, and the story about his kids telling him, it being a surprise and made him feel humble, (in my opinion another funny) and who set that one up???

    Now, if he watches college football he then should be awarded the Heisman Throphy!!!!!! makes as much sense as the nobel peace prize.

  133. kattie chg. says:

    Obama, accomplished 0 as a Il. Senator, we are in the Obamination now my fellow Americans. We can not go on like this for another 3 years, sitting on the sidelines as he is rapidly plummeting our country into socialism, communism. We have to join together, versus allowing the “divide and conquer” principle (one of many) principles of a socailist agenda. All your comments are quite “healthy” and we have to take action now! I wish I had the answers,and invite solutions. IMPEACHMENT, by exposing his true place of birth is a start. The birth certificate obama offered is a fake, and for some reason, “was swept under the carpet”.
    I agree, the underlying corrupted masses, ie. Gg. Soros, $$$ put obama in OUR White House. Recall how the Clintons, were stopped in their tracks, by the Monica thing???

    • Victor says:

      There may be something in the old story that a country gets the leader it deserves !

    • Norm says:

      It looks to me like another 7 years for Obama. The right wing kooks who stole the Republican Party are are less popular now than they were in 2008. I agree that Obama is vulnurable. The last pole that I saw, however, shows Huckabee as the #1 presidential candidate. He may carry the religious fanatics in the bible belt, but he’ll get destroyed by most sane people. Couple him with Mammy Yokum Palin and you get Obama.

      • Average Joe says:

        Norm says:
        October 19, 2009 at 4:46 am

        Couple him with Mammy Yokum Palin and you get Obama.

        One word: Bigot

      • Beberoni says:

        Norm, seriously, pay attention dude. Do you see whats happening right now in Virginia and New Jersey? Eh? Capish? Understand yet Norm? Can you read the writing on the wall? Do I need to spell it out for you? Ok, then I will. America woke up Norm. Your pipe dream is over. They screwed up big time, now they must pay with their jobs. They are out of here Norm. No more lefties. All of them, gone.

    • Ginny says:

      These are childish comments. Democracy requires civil, two-way debate. I grew up during WWII and Uncle was POW. Now I have two grandsons fighting for your right for “Freedom of Speech”. It seems to me the problem with this country we have let Corporations take over with their Lobbyist “buying off” what we tho’t were going to be be candidates for the doing the right thing in office. But they enjoyed the Lobbyist “Gravey Train” that is run by Corporations whose share holders are in same category as Dick Cheney, Carl Rove, and Bush family. Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and Bill O’Reilly are also their “followers” for the big money. If you stop and “really think” who has been trying to help the Middle Class and lower classes”. Did you enjoy the Bully’s at school as a child. Well, Beck, Limbaugh and O’Reilly are these same Bully’s. If you think like them you are also a Bully. Those countries that my children are fighting for to become democracies, is this the example we want to give them? We can do better. We need to support those who regardless of party, model the “best of who we are”

      • libertytrain says:

        My reference to childish comments were the kindergarten-style attacks people were making at each other. Sorry I wasn’t clear.

      • eyeswideopen says:

        Ginny, hands clapping.

      • Beberoni says:

        But see, I cant support or even fathom listening to a party that is run and owned by a filthy rich un American named George Soros. This guy has bought and sold them. They owe him so much, its scary what they might try to do. They have to pay him back. They tax business and make folks lose their jobs, create more and more social programs to give my hard earned money to those that dont want to work for it. They spend money like drunken sailers to buy UAW votes, to put gays up on a pedestal and give them and illegal aliens extra rights. Its just all wrong. And you call Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Glen Beck bullies, because they go on TV and the radio and speak the truth. They just speak. Sorry, a bully catches you in the alley and beats you up. They cause you pain. One should not be such a wimp that mere words hurt them. And why do you fear the truth, that these men speak? You think its ok for Katy Couric to spew her liberal lies every night on TV? Wolf Blitzer? Keith Olberman? Why is it ok for them to spew words, that 95 percent of us know are blatant lies, yet you cannot tell me that the words that come out of the mouth of Rush, Sean and Glen are lies. They speak the truth, and if the truth hurts, then you need to change what you are doing, because your evidently doing something wrong if the truth hurts. Just a thought for you.

  134. Frederick H says:

    Katie chg, have you ever seen and/or heard a PARROT? No? Well, have a good look in your bathroom mirror and you’ll undoubtedly see one. What you’re blathering here about socialism and communism and what not, is old, old, old Fox News stuff, already rehashed a million times by those Town Hall mob bloodhounds. Most of them – probably including yourself – don’t even know what socialism really means, but they keep yapping the same old slogans over and over again. Well, we’ve heard you clearly enough by now. Come up with something genuinely intelligent and original for a change…..

  135. Joco says:

    Years ago, there was an old tale in the Submarine Force about a lieutenant who inspected his Sailors and told the ‘COB’ ( COB is Chief Of the Boat, The highest rated non-com job.) that they smelled bad. The lieutenant suggested that they change their underwear. The COB responded, ‘Aye, aye, sir, I’ll see to it immediately’.

    He went into the barracks and said, ‘The lieutenant thinks you guys smell bad, and wants you to change your underwear. Smith, you change with Jones, McCarthy, you change with Witkowskie, Brown, you change with Schultz. Get to it’.

    The moral: A candidate may promise change in Washington, but don’t count on things smelling any better.

  136. Rod James says:

    Republicans/Democrats?Politicians!!!!Most of you Donkies and Elephants just don’t get it!!Why??They both work for the monied elite!!Its a system designed three hundred years ago by very smart people who ensnare whole populations with political BS to keep them busy thinking government will change things.PLEASE READ THE INFO OUT THERE!!Richard C.Cook,Thomas Greco,Mathias Chang are among many explaining the MONITARY SYSTEM(s) and who controls them.You don’t get to be Pres. of the US by being a fool and Obama is one of the slickest FIGURE HEADS to comw along in decades.You can stick your head to your ass and kiss it good bye if you PRAY it will get better! At least read about the real reasons the world is in such a mess (money makes it go round)and then you may get an idea about what to do PERSONALLY about this system and how you can opt out if given a chance when it comes.STOP THE POLITICAL BICKERING NAME CALLING AND STUPIDITY AND GET INFORMED!!!!

  137. Jessica says:

    I believe that Obama knew he had been nominated for the Nobel Prize early in his presidency. He ignored the war in Afganistan and avoided General McCrystal because he did not want to alienate the Socialist Nobel Committee and thus weaken his chances of winning the award. He undermined the war effort and jeopardized our troops in harm’s way simply for his own self-aggrandizement. That, in my opinion, is treason.

    • eyeswideopen says:

      So, Jessica, you want him to not think about our policy, run in and dump 40,000 more troops, with no exit stragety. Sounds like a Republican thought process to me. Why not for a change, do some assessments and decide what we would like to accomplish? Why are you all so afraid of rational planning and thinking? Can you name me one General in the history of a war who stated : NO!, I don’t want any more troops? Why should we commit 100,000 troops to contain 100 men? Overkill? probably, Why do you think that the goals change never change? Situtations change, therefore goals should change accordingly. Common Sense is something the parties have tried to curtail.

  138. Frederick H says:

    Name calling and degrading by us liberals, EyeswideShut? Well, what about the endelessly repeated mantra’s related to “Socialism” and Communism”? Think about it, how nice it would be to be constantly kicked in the (WORD REMOVED) just because you don’t subscribe to conservative capitalist policies? Fine, eh? Very civilized and very Christian like, don’t you think???

    • Beberoni says:

      If you dont like capitalism, where hard work means you become successful, then you need to move to Russia or somewhere, because your part of the problem here, looking for a handout and depending on the government to take care of you. Big Government is the problem, not big business. People like you are part of the problem.

      • Frederick H says:

        Have you been sleeping the past 21 years Beberoni? This is the year 2009, not 1988, dude!!! Russia is just as capitalistic nowadays as the US of A, in case you didn’t know. More billionaires to be found there than in Canada and the US together. They’re drowning in oil and other polluting $h*t. So I don’t think I’d be better off there than in our own greedy, hypocritical country. But maybe it’s time for you yourself to make the “Big Trip” over to Poetinstan. I hear you can steal your way to yer first millions over there in just about six months. Best of luck……

      • Beberoni says:

        Not quite. Talk to Putin. They still got it going on. Theyve just fooled you. Kind of like Obama did.

  139. Merl Elton says:

    As the old saying goes a picture says a thousand words and this photo says it all.

  140. Merl Elton says:

    No libs, you have it wrong. We did not say you could not express yourself or try to silence the press, the Internet, and freedom of speech. We are merely expressing our dislike of your opionion; not your right to express it; and that is the difference between us and them.

  141. Merl Elton says:

    Yes, either support the troops to win and decrease losses; or get the hell out of there. There is no other reasonable way.

  142. Rod says:

    Talk about degrading the opponent, Here is a very good start,

    impeachobama@impeachobamacampainnews.com

    Now the fun begins!

  143. Rod says:

    Talk about degrading- – Try, impeachobama@impeachobamacampainnews.com

    Now the fun begins!

  144. Rod says:

    They won’t let me tell you about a campain going on to impeach obama

  145. Beberoni says:

    So Chip, why is it that you do an article like this, and state the historical truth of things, and those on the other side of the aisle can just lightly dismiss the truth like it doesnt matter. I guess I just dont understand why the truth doesnt matter to them.

  146. Paul Kruger says:

    To start with the article was biased against Obama and the Nobel Prize at the outset so any suggestion this was intended to be an “open” discussion went out the window right away.

    I believe the prize was an acknowledgment that the president is on the right track…assuming he is not met with roadblocks to peace by those who profit from war. The prize clearly stated it was for his “efforts” not for any particular accomplishment. It is a sign and a form of pressure to keep his administration on track for peace initiatives.

    Opposition motto; “Don’t confuse me with facts, I already made up my mind.”

    If they gave awards for war-mongers and anti-civil rights leaders, Bush would have one of his own.

    • Beberoni says:

      How long have you been abusing meth Paul? Are you teeth bad yet?

    • Beberoni says:

      But see Paul, there is the problem. This award isnt supposed to be an acknowledgement that someone “might” be doing something that is going to end up being good, its supposed to be an award for something someone has done, for something someone has allready accomplished. Understand? The problem is, he hasnt accomplished anything, other that to spend in 8 months what the previous guys did in 8 years, and they spent too much. He took our tax money and gave it to the UAW to buy future votes. He has upped taxes on business costing jobs. He is soon to rescind the Bush tax cuts in 2010, which will cost millions more their jobs. No, he has done nothing to earn this award, and to tell the truth, I dont see where they or you come up with these words that it even appeared he was going to do good things? Who made that up? Unbelievable.

  147. keith says:

    there is one commen premise with all the librals and democrats that come on this site,they all seem to actually delight in pointing out every wrong their mushy confused little brains can come up with about this country.why do they delight in bashing and downing the very country they live in?they have no pride in themselves nor less for their country,like obama they despise what this country stands for.every damn time someone points out what is good about america,sure enough a libral kook or a democrat will refute it and then try and give some reason why we they detest the very country they live in.they have been consistant all through this site with their anti-american rheteric.
    well i for one am very tired of it and am getting tired of hearing you librals belittling MY country!why if you pinko-commie socialists dis like our nation so much,then get your posteriors out of it and move your unpatriotic selves out!go to europe where you can bash our nation along with all the other socialists.you librals and democrats all you do is praise this sorry excuse we have as a president and like him spew out left wing anti american slogans and rherteric as fast as you can.i despise all of you.this is the greatest nation on the face of the earth and has been doing fine in that role for over two hundred years.as the ole saying goes,IF YOU DON’T LIKE IT LEAVE IT!!!!
    you like bashing and along with your worthless sorry idol comrad obamaass get off on bashing and downing our country,GET OUT!leave,go,vamoose,make like a tree and leave!you don’t like this country it’s obvious,then GO!leave this country to those who treasure it and the ideals that make it great and the ENVY of people everywhere.i despise all of you and you make me sick.if you don’t have good to say about my country then shut your piehole!you people like barrack hussain obama could care a rats a** about this country and want to transform it into a weak willed socialistic utopia where the gays can dance in the street in glee like sodem n gomorrah,where the govt dictates every facet of your lives so you don’t have to think for yourselves and you can sing koombyeyah to your hearts content and then when you have destroyed and twisted the country into your whacked out vision you freaks can all be happy!all you flag burners and anti-american scumbags are biting off the hand that has allowed you to get the way you are,you all have a serious mental problem,i despise you all!!
    signed…..
    a god fearing patriot!

  148. Reverend Ira L. Lewis says:

    President Eisenhower warned the United States of the Congressional Military Industrial Complex which evidence showed that that is what The Bush Administration was all about. Bush represented the United States as an EVIL to the entire World. If a dove with an olive branch in its mouth would have been elected after Bush (George Dubya), it would have been selected to receive the Nobel Peace Prize. Bush grew up and was misguided about understanding what being responsible was and is all about. That is why he was childly mischievous in the responsibility of our Sovereign Nation. I did not vote in this last presidential election because I saw how money deliberately willed Obama to be the representative of the Democratic Party; and the embarrassment of President Clinton’s personal actions kept Hillary from being The Party’s representative. I was a supporter of the Democratic Party for over thirty years, but now I have asserted myself to be an Independent voter from now on. As an African-American and experiencing the corruption of the will of evil man, I know that man will always be evil; I just have to pray and seek that which is RIGHT. Though, I pray for Obama because I perceive that he better than what McCain would have done further destruction to the Sovereignty of our Nation; he is a mini-George Dubya. George Dubya recklessly abused our Sovereign Government for the gain of himself and his corrupt constituents; that why he allowed 9/11 to happen (look at the August 2002 issue of Time Magazine) to lure the American Psychic into the Iraq War for the pool of Oil that is there. Why didn’t he take The War of Retalliation against Saudi Arabia, whose the majority of those terrorist were from? Why was he trying so deliberately to sell the infrastructure of the United States to the United Arab Emerit which he and Cheney are monetarily involved with. The Bible warned us that THE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL.

    • Beberoni says:

      The want of money is the root of all evil. You missed a letter or two, but thats ok. But this war had nothing to do with oil, and I cant believe your still thinking that. So where is the oil Bush and Cheney were fighting for? Seems its still there. I myself, as President, I would have take the oil to pay for the war, but thats just me. Bush and Cheney didnt touch it. And truthfully sir, we dont need it. If we really need oil, we have more under us than all the Middle East combined, and if they ever overcome all the tree huggers, we would be free of needing their oil. But this war never and anything to do with their oil. That was just part of the lefts plan to make the population hate the Republicans and Bush, because they have ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN and MSNBC to continually demonize the oil companies, in the name of the democratic party. But truthfully, last I looked, democrats, republicans, and independants alike put gasoline in their vehicles. Yep, Im pretty sure of that, and that they heat their houses with fuel also. Damn evil oil companies that allow us to keep from freezing to death, and allow us to drive from point A to point B.

    • cr747 says:

      Reverend, I sure am glad your not my paster

  149. Normal Guy says:

    Well hate filled posters, keep it up, like I said before the American people are getting a good look at the tea baggers, conspiracy kooks and are reacting as rational people do. Support for the right are collapsing. Check out the article in the Washington Post yesterday.

    Morning Fix: A premature celebration for the GOP
    Republicans in Washington can barely contain their glee at the turn of President Obama’s political fortunes in the first nine months of the year but a new Washington Post/ABC News poll suggests the GOP still faces serious perception problems in the eyes of the American public.

    Less than one in five voters (19 percent) expressed confidence in Republicans’ ability to make the right decisions for America’s future while a whopping 79 percent lacked that confidence.

    Among independent voters, who went heavily for Obama in 2008 and congressional Democrats in 2006, the numbers for Republicans on the confidence questions were even more worse. Just 17 percent of independents expressed confidence in Republicans’ ability to make the right decision while 83 percent said they did not have that confidence.

    (While Obama’s numbers on the confidence question weren’t amazing — 49 percent confident/50 percent not confident — they were far stronger than those for Republicans.)

    On the generic ballot question, 51 percent of the sample said they would cast a vote for a Democratic candidate in their congressional district next fall while just 39 percent said they would opt for a GOP candidate. (As late as this summer, Republicans had seemingly narrowed the wide generic ballot lead Democrats enjoyed for much of the last two election cycles.)

    And, perhaps most troubling for GOP hopes is the fact that just 20 percent of the Post sample identified themselves as Republicans, the lowest that number has been in Post polling since 1983. (No, that is not a typo.)

    These numbers, coming roughly one year before the 2010 midterm elections, show that any celebration on the GOP’s behalf is premature as the party has yet to convince most voters that it can be a viable alternative to Democratic control in Washington today…

    • cr747 says:

      WELL, WELL, WELL LOOKS AS THOUGH THE REPUBLICANS CHANGED THEIR MINDS, MR. NORMAL GUY. WHAT HAPPEN IN VIRGINIA, AND NEW JERSEY? SAME THING THAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN IN 2010 REPUBLICANS, REPUBLICANS, REPUBLICANS. AND DARN, I’M A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT, BUT I DIDN’T VOTE FOR ONE LAST YEAR, AND SURE AS H— WON’T VOTE FOR ONE IN 2010. I’M SICK OF THE IDIOT DEMOCRAT’S TAKING ADVANTAGE OF US.

  150. Frederick H says:

    Well Beberoni, fine guy, why did that Iraqi guy threw his shoes at your precious G.W. Bush? Did you hear his comment when he was released from prison? Yeah? So, let me tell you. He and millions of his fellow citizens still hate the Americans like the plague, because hundreds of girls where brutally raped by GI’s, thousands upon thousands of citizens killed by American bombs and bullets. Tens of thousands of Iraqi people fled the country during the past few years, precisely because of the deplorable safety and security conditions. Crime rates shy-rocketed during the American occupation. It’s well nigh impossible to be a Christian in that wretched country these days. Persecution and brutal killings are rampant right now. And all that because your dear George W. wanted to have his friend Saddam Hussein out of the way as quickly as possible. Well, thank you very much George, the Nobel Committee should have granted YOU that Peace Award. The Iraqi (and Afghan) People are sooooooo much happier than ever before…… Wow.

    • Beberoni says:

      Well, if you really believe that, then there is a rubber room somewhere for you. I myself, would never believe the word of a mad Iraqi who would attack Barack Obama. No, never. I would stand behind my president on that. You however, because of your agenda and hatred of George W. Bush and the Republicans, would gladly applaud an attack by our enemy on our president. That is so sad. You need to talk to the battalion of soldiers I do, that even send me videos, of these people hugging them and thanking them, and giving our soldiers gifts. What you state is an out and out lie, because I have seen the goings on over there. You insult our soldiers, our way of life, and our great country when you spew your agenda based lies. And sir, what you have said in this post is exactly that, out and out lies. Iraq is a much better place for these people to live, and it will continue to be that way, unless your guy decides to pull out before all is set up, then it all falls down. I hope this doesnt happen, but unfortunately, there is a mind set out there in one of our political parties, that if they can make this thing fail and turn out ugly, they can point the finger and use it for their political advantage, and if someone party were to do that, all I can say is whoa to them. Back America please, not just your party.

      • Average Joe says:

        Beberoni says:,

        How about putting some verifiable sources for your comments sir? You post and post and then post some more….but all of it seems to be based on your personal opinion and nothing else. If you want someone to believe what you believe, simply stating what “you believe” is not going to convert anyone…you need sources, verifiable facts…facts cannot be disputed.
        I myself didn’t like George “the Goat Roper” Bush nor do I like Obama “the Gift of Gab” Bin Biden. Both have taken the nation in the wrong direction period…as have most of their predecessors end of story.

      • Beberoni says:

        The facts are the facts. Do I have to do everything for you? Research what I have said. If you find me in error, I will listen. But I dont think you will, because pretty much, before I open my yap, I find out what is true and factual before I say it. So educate yourself, and check it out. You’ll be doing yourself a favor. Have a good day mate.

      • Average Joe says:

        Beberoni says:,
        The point I am trying to make is this: when you post…put your sources up along with your post so that others may look at your sources and reach their own conclusions. At least this way they know why you believe the things you are saying. This was not meant to belittle you in any way…just a suggestion….if you want others to agree, you must give them more than just personal opinion.

    • Thurman Marcum says:

      Frederick,

      Majority of the Iraqi people want the Occupational forces out of their country.No country can solve another country’s problems and the pretect to liberate that country is beyond reasoning.We can’t be world policemen.I always said George Bush Junior wanted to get rid of two unpopular regimes.He flat out lied.We got a mess on our hands and there is no end in sight.

      • keith says:

        lets see,japan,germany,korea,guam,to name some.they are now stable because of us,saddam hussein was genocidal maniacal dicktator who gassed and killed people in the thousands.they are STILL finding mass graves overthere filled with those who resisted saddams regime.research your stupid ass facts moron instead of spouting out crap.

  151. Beberoni says:

    Hold on, while you were out, Barack Obama watched a USC football game and was awarded the Heisman trophy. Wait, this just in, over the weekend, Barack Obama attended a Tim McGraw concert, as was awarded the Country & Western Entertainer of the Year Award. Hold it, this just in. Barack Obama went to a Detroit Red Wings pre-season NHL game, and was awarded the Stanley Cup. Newsflash, just in, Barack Obama bought a bicyle and was awarded the champions trophy for winning the Tour de France. Yeah, its kind of like this.

  152. cr747 says:

    EYES, I HAVE A FEW STATEMENTS FOR YOU. ONE OF THEM OCT.20 @ 8:29AM @TOP AFTER THE CHAPLAIN. @. ONE ON OCT 16 @ 12:29 PM AND ONE ON OCT. 16 @ 8:50PM AND VICTOR I HAVE ONE FOR YOU FOR OCT. 20 @ 10:16

  153. golding4 says:

    I have spent all afternoon reading all these comments…and they seem to be a war of words, I would like to add a few of my own, I was raised before and during WWII and my family was raised a democrat, My favorite president was and always shell be Herry S. Truman…If he was alive today, he would be the most conservative republician in office. He would not give our country away, as it is being given in these days…I think all of you know down deep inside, that your war of words will in time become a shooting war (with bullits) I have believes also, some of you won’t like them, I am almost 80 years old and have seen and heard and learned….I drive a school bus and the children are different then they were years and years ago, they represent a Godless future nation because God has been taken away from them in all areas of their lives, the Government does not want them to have a heritage and so they don’t teach history like they used too. they want them to be led like cattle. …they, I believe can be called the Bilderburg Group or any other name you choice. I for one voted for that woman and the man she was running with. and if we ever get the chance to vote for another president, I vote for that Alaskan Woman again, Why…I want someone in that high office that believes in the right and only true God….but only those in Christ will understand these words of: the man in office now, regardless of legality is the Man of perdiction, the man of peace, and we know it a false peace, he doesn’t even know who he is yet! He will know after the Rapture of the Church…so I say to all…better get right with God because time is short, and I say that with a smile looking up….Now some of you are going to think and say,”What, A Relgious fanatic”, No, just one who is old and loves The Lord, when I was a young man, I was a pilot in the USAF and later the USN, I was 37 years old when just after hitting the deck and was being re-spoted on deck I just set there in the cockpit of that A/C and surendered my life to Christ, because it was my time to know the Lord and His salvation…..it is your time now, if it happens to you or not, most of you will be left behind when all the Christians are removed along with the Holy Spirit and most of you will laugh at these words but someday soon your smile will be wipped off your face when he finds out who he is, the Bilderburg Group’s agenda is less then 9 years to a New World Government and he will be the president of that also, the only thing missing in the tell tell of his adentity is a wound to the head and servives it so is written in the Bible, A book I believe every word.
    Now some of you will write to blast me apart, but I will take it with a smile and still know the truth, the same truth that could set you free.

    • libertytrain says:

      golding4 – your post was a very nice and interesting read – thanks

    • Beberoni says:

      You speak the truth. All prophecies are fulfilled except the exposing of the anti-christ. Some say it is Obama, but I say not. The Good Book says I will recognize him when he comes, and I dont recognize Obama as him. He is not the great peacemaker. He hasnt made fire come down from the sky, nor will he. He is not him. But I know what you know and have eloquently spoken of, as my eyes and ears have been opened also. Your right, some think of us a kooks or fanatics, but they do not know. They thought that of Jesus as they hung Him on the cross. So to you, I say what He said, forgive them for they do not know what they do. All this stuff going on now, you and I recognize as the birth pangs spoke of in the Bible. The more and frequent fires, earthquakes, flood. The right becoming wrong and the wrong becoming right. Its all there, people for some reason just choose not to see it for some reason. Fear I think. Have a great day my friend. Continue to help others see, and dont give up.

      • golding4 says:

        Maybe we should be looking for the False Prophet to show up on the agenda that will give the antichrist the power you say he will have.
        I have a feeling that the taking of the Church will happen just before the false prophet arrives with the show of power….so….won’t be here to see all that. I don’t think you will be either….

      • Norm says:

        golding4
        The only false prophets in this country are the profits made by the immoral and greedy.

      • Norm says:

        Beberoni
        oooo my! Your not of those seventh day adventists are you? I read one of their booklets and was totally amazed. Everyone is welcome to their beliefs, and mean no disrespect, but they are out on a planet of their own.

      • golding4 says:

        I guess the 7th day adventist are people who try to earn their way to Heaven….Sorry, no one can earn their way because no one is good enough and never will be….Jesus paid my ramson with His Blood and I am set free to love Him….Southern Baptiist member…..

      • Beberoni says:

        No Norm, Im not. I like to drink carbonated beverages, and eat leavened bread, and use salt and sugar. They arent allowed those things. I dont know if they believe Im going to burn for using these things or not, but nope, Im not one of them. I go to the Missionary church, you know, straight out of the Bible type stuff. I dont know as much as I should, but I do know quite a bit. But you know, there is always room for improvement. Thanks Norm. Have a good day.

      • cr747 says:

        Beberoni, I would say that you know the word of God pretty well, by that I know that you are smart enough to believe what the BIBLE says,and that some on these links are not smart enough to know that they are going to spend eternity in hell. Keep studying your BIBLE and keep learning. If you haven’t read “Crazy Love” by Francis Chan, I highly recommend you do. God Bless You!!!!!!!!!!!

  154. Average Joe says:

    Normal Guy,here is an old adage that I believe applies here.

    “When the law is on your side, argue the law. When the facts are on your side, argue the facts. When neither are on your side, distract the opponent by calling names.”

    Well I see you do not argue either the law or the facts, it appears we know where your arguments stand.

  155. Rich says:

    Wow another hijacked thread to promote and disseminate misinformation for or against Obama. Though most are based in facts all are propaganda for keeping the corruption of our current people in power, exactly that in power tomorrow. Is the power of the writ talked about earlier still in effect, yes it is as it was not repealed by congress and the power still resides in the hands of the president. Is habeus corpus suspended currently, the short answer, no. So who is wrong in that argument neither person as both were on totally different pages. This article is about the president receiving a prestigious award, for reasons I am dumbfounded by, but he won it nonetheless. Does his winning diminish the award, well of course it does as it once stood for achievement, it now stands for rhetoric. Does that mean he did not deserve it, no honestly it does not, or to be blunt he would not have won it. Do I like the current administration, not on your life I find his views in polar opposite to mine and never bought into the cadidatorial speeches he gave saying nothing more than hope and change, or looking like a high school pep rally. Do I watch Glenn Beck, honestly yes I do watch him, but I watch other shows also that have similar and dissimilar views, why to inform myself in as diverse a way as possible. Bottom line is this Obama sucks, Bush Jr. sucked, Clinton sucked and so on as long as I have been alive. Did They also do good, yes they did, but was the price willing to be paid is the real question and one you have to ask yourself. I was talking with a co-worker about what else the economy and what our illustrious leaders are doing to our country, not their country, OUR country. We had different ideas on how to fix the problems, but both concluded like so brilliantly stated in an earlier post, which was a re-post of an article from the 1980′s, that the only way to fix the problems is to ensure we arm ourselves with the knowledge not of what a candidate says but of their voting trends or lack thereof and vote for the one that most closely conicides with our own particular view points.

  156. Frederick H says:

    Right Thurman, if only he (that loser George Dubya) had ducked when the Great Torturer Dickie Cheney had whispered in his ear, onward Georgie, we’re marching off to war, we wouldn’t have lost all those trillions of dollars as well as so many thousands of precious American lives in those two Hell holes Afghanistan and Iraq. What have we gained in all those EIGHT YEARS OF WAR? Yeah? Nothing, absolutely nothing at all. Only HATRED all over the Globe and an entire Universe of Financial Shite. So, thanks Georgie Dubya, history will remember you as the idiot who blessed the American People with two totally useless battlefields and kicked them into a huge economic recession to boot. Thanks again…..

    • Beberoni says:

      No. Actually Freddie, history has a way of changing perceptions of people as years pass and things are exposed. Like it used to be thought that Bill Clinton was good for the economy. As years pass, we see the damnation of everything he touched, and there is still more and more coming out as the years pass. He was quit the demonized man. But George W. Bush will go down in history, as one of the greatest presidents ever. He had the economy booming, employement higher than under any president, unemployment lower than under any president. The stock market higher than under any president. He freed a nation of millions that was under daily persecution, and unless the left cuts and run, a true democracy will be functional in the middle east. He took a country, the United States, who was attacked again and again and again under the Clinton administration, who did nothing but look the other way, and the enemy kept growing and growing and getting organized. George W. Bush came along, and franky Freddie he was man enough to say “no more punching us in the nose”, and he took the fight to them. So let me ask you Freddie, how many times have we been attacked since Bush stood up to them? How many Freddie? The Taliban have been dismantled and we have Al Quaeda on the verge of being eliminated. Of course, your guys now want to talk, so now the enemy is being empowered again, and are rebuilding, when we should be finishing them off, but this admin is busy planning on how to cut and run and make the previous admin look bad for the mess it will cause. Thats how it is, not one mans opinions, but historical facts. Deal with it.

      • Frederick H says:

        Oh Beberon, fine man, Good holy houses, George Dubya the Greatest? I just couldn’t stop laughing. Yeah we haven’t been attacked here in the US since 9/11, but to what expense. Trillions of dollars have been spent and are still being spend to keep up the whole security soap. Even Mugabe, should he have been appointed President in this country, Lord forbid, would have been able to keep things rolling quite nicely for us with all that money in his coat pocket. Big Deal Bebbie!!! Jeez. It’s solely a matter of money and perverse power tactics, Beberoni. It’s got nothing to do with cunning administrative policies. Our friend G. Dubya paid off a whole string of corrupt leaders in Eastern and Southern Europe in order to procure facilities to secretly torture Arab suspects and pseudo suspects. Have you read, by the way, that several CIA agents have been convicted in Italy, in absence, that is, because of the abduction of an Arab man to the USA? Yes their very cowardice prevented them from facing justice in Italy for their crime. By the way, Beb, speaking of the CIA, if those crooks had heeded the warnings delivered by the French Intelligence Service, over a year prior to the Twin Tower attacks, we could have been spared the pain and humiliation of the experience. No Beberon, as far as I’m concerned, that G. Dubya of yours has been as worthless as worm to us here at home and the world at large. No wonder he’s been so devotedly mocked (and hated) all over the globe during the greater part of his presidency.

  157. J C says:

    Obama is a communist plain and simple. So giving him a peace prize has cheapened the prize to the value of paperweight, especially after giving one to Al Gore for his fear mongering campaign. I can’t get over the fact idea anyone seriously believes in either of those two liars. “Yes we can, Yes we can, Yes we can….Zeig Heil, Zeig Heil…” Morons.

  158. Frederick H says:

    Ah, JC’s enlightening us here. Aren’t you JC? You’re presenting so much hard evidence for the President’s “Communist” Attitude that our only reaction can and should be, yes, JC really knows what he’s talking about. He is a very, very informed man. What’s even more, he’s come up with something entirely new: the relationship between communism and Nazism. Never knew it (this connection) existed at all, but now I know. This “Zeig Heil” bit is what impressed me the most, honestly. Oh, uhm, JC must have graduated top of his class in German a couple of years ago, because he knows that it’s not SIEG HEIL, as the Nazis used to say, but Zeig Heil. A very well educated man, that JC. When I read posts such as this one by JC, I always think, well, why is President Obama worried that much about the (“rapidly deteriorating”) state of American Higher Education? He really shouldn’t fuss about the matter. No, he should be very much impressed by commentary such as delivered by JC here and all those Town Hall Screamers who just can’t stop repeating the words socialist, fascist, socialist, fascist, socialist, fascist….. Yeah, quack, quack, quack, quack, quack…..

    • golding4 says:

      WOW….Frederick H knows how to spell Sieg Heil…..Does he know how to have feelings toward his fellow man, It seems not. and he’s defending Obama to the wire, Why? is he worth defending? Please, let me hear from a liberal that voted for this Muslim….You are first going to tell me, Obama is not a Muslim, then why did he bow to a Muslim king and not take his wife down there? and now that I have a liberal, please tell me why Obama won’t show his birth cert. instand of the one on his web that’s printed with a Laser printer. and why has he spent over a million dollars defending his showing of the real birth cert. This Birth Cert. deal is eventually going to go all the way to the Supreme court.
      Obama’s record on Free Choice or let’s call it what it is, Murdering the babies before birth. and his issues on gay rights, plus his desire to destory the boarder beween Mexico and the USA has been know all along, so I do not see how a Christian could vote for this man, maybe so called Christians did but Jesus says,”Many will say Lord, Lord and not see the Kingdom of Heaven, so I think all that voted for Obama might just fit there….but not a true Christian could vote for this man knowing his thoughts on abortion. enough said.

      • Beberoni says:

        Thank you, and Amen. You speak the truth. I feel the same way. There is no way, a true Christian, one who knows Jesus Christ. One who knows what Gods word says in the Bible, could vote for a group of people who knowingly and willingly support a man sleeping with another man, when God says “For a man to lie with another man as he would a woman, is an Abomination to the Lord.” There is no way someone that knows God could support those who knowingly and willingly not only murder children in the womb, but now use our tax payer money and kill them overseas also. No way, no how, a true Christian can empower people with these immoral outlooks. No way. I totally agree.

  159. Kae says:

    The people who put this site together did so under false pretenses–getting people to check this site out by answering a poll. Quite a partisan effort, also. Not worthy of a second look.

  160. THIS SHOW HOW STUPID THOSE JUDGES REALLY ARE WHAT HE DESERVES IS IMPEACHMENT

  161. Tim says:

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  162. Ron F says:

    Chip That is a great paper on the truth of the matter. Only a Socialist would say that is too hard what you just wrote. In the Declaration of Independence Art: 1 Section 9 said No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the U.S.:And no person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them shall without the consent of the Congress accept of any present, Emolument (compensation or payment), Office, or Title, of any kind whatever any King, Prince, or foreign state. Now does taking the prize mean it was unconstitutional? I know the left couldn’t care less but when is the last time they went by it? Also,it said: We hold these truths to be self-evident (unless you’re a reprobate)etc that to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men deriving their just Powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the people to alter or to abolish it and to institute new government, laying its foundations on such Principles and organizing its Powers in such form as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and Happiness. It will take Prudence to do this. The ones that wrote it died for what they believed.

  163. Jackie says:

    To eyeswodeopen:

    You try to blame NAFTA on a repulican congress under Clinton. Clinton signed the bill. He could have vetoed it. He therefore must take some of the blame.

  164. Frederick H says:

    UNFAIRLY RIDICULED, you say Jackie? Did you know that this man, your George Dubya dragged us (as well as a whole string of other Western countries) into the stinking mud of a (probably) endless war in Afghanistan? It’s eight years now since that total idiot shoved his dirty wars down our throats. And what has been accomplished since? Folks say the world is a safer place now. At least here in the USA we haven’t seen wany fierce terrorist attacks since Bushie went to war. But as I’ve said earlier to what cost? Trillions of dollars have been spent, thousands of American young men and women been killed, not to mention the thousands upon thousands of Afghans and Iraqi killed by American bombs and gunfire. And, oh irony, we see the Taliban gaining ground day by day. Bin-Laden caught? You bet he is……
    There was a documentary video on TV the other night featuring an item about US trained Afghan soldiers, secretly trading in their guns with Taliban warriors for ludicrous “safety promises”. And guess where those guns have been produced! So, that’s where our hard earned tax dollars are flowing out to: the Talib army!!! Great, eh. We try to kick our so-alled democratic system down these people’s hungry throats and all we get in return is their scorn, hatred and outrageous cynicism. Thank you Georgie, Mr. Bushman. They should have granted you that damn Nobel Peace Award. We won’t forget you’ve blessed us with a couple of wars that have brought us an untold number of great goodies, including our reputation as a very civilized nation (remember Abu-Graib and Guantanamo Bay…….).

  165. Sam says:

    Anyone remember what America was like during WW 2? Spirit of cooperation, sacrifice for the good of the country, bust you butt to make America great, work, work, work for the good of the cause. Now it’s mine, give it to me, you owe me. Things are so far out of wack with reality now and reading these comments tells me nothing will change in the good old USA. It’s EVERYONE’S fault and until this mentality reverses itself, nothing will change. I’m afraid it’s to late for America, the ride is over. Democracy has outlived itself because of stupidity brought on by the “good life”. It’s been fun.

  166. Frederick H says:

    To the MODERATORS. Could you please, please rearrange the sequence of posts, as the newest conntributions are now just randomly thrown in between the oldest ones, which works out very confusing for me and probably many other users. Thank you very, very much.

  167. Sam says:

    After reading most of these comments I know I can rest easy because the masses are going to act like responsible voters and vote for the PERSON who will get this country under control and lead it to the once great Nation it was. Of course many of you will vote in Florida and Minnesota and the new leader will be delayed in taking office due to the massive screw ups with voting machines, voters and the entire process. Keep it up America, you continue to make the world laugh!

  168. Stan says:

    Well written Mr. Chip Wood!
    Your article received the most comments from disgruntled citizens. It is disappointing for many of us to see that (since Mother Teresa) the Noble Peace Prize has been tanished and prostituted by the likes of Yasser Arafat, Al Gore, Henry Kissinger and Obama…more distractions to steer us away from addressing the more serious issues that are facing our nation! We now have the most destructive and dangerous government in US history in power. We have a government that has blatently become the enemy of the American people. We are living in fear and uncertainty as our entire lives are being threatened by a fast growing tyranical regime, and we are discussing the Nobel Peace Prize! Even more disappointing, is that there are many who are still convinced that Obama and his Motley crew will still come through for them! Let me say again to anyone who seriously cares about the future of our nation and is willing to take the time,….do the research for yourself and find out what is happening behind the scenes! And for believers (deists & otherwise)hope and pray for wisdom. And let us work together to bring our nation back to sanity.

  169. Stan says:

    Hello Golding4,
    I had to respond to your comments because I share your concern. You expressed a warm sincerity about your faith.It did not take much spiritual discernment to know you are a good man. It is on rare occasions such as this that I am prompted to consider scripture as it relates to the final days. God bless you my friend, it took someone with your spirit to remind me of much that I had learned from the Word. Of course I know that you will give credit to His spirit, but He does not mind that you take a little for yourself sometimes. It takes someone who knows Him to recognize Him in someone else.

  170. George says:

    Is there still a Rupugnican Party?

  171. Peter says:

    I agree that the racism escape just won’t cut it. I believe that our people in general are generous and kind, but very naiive. This president has the same qualifications as did Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, etc., in that he is a very good orator. But he has no experience and no substance or class. Besides if you follow his phylosophy you’ll see the tendencies toward communism peeking out. He probably hates this country. Let him prove that he is legaly quslified to be the president, why fight it when it would be so simple to prove it – if he can. One is led to believe that he is hidingthe truth, otherwise why fight?

  172. DCinIllinois says:

    Sorry Bebe, Dubya went AWOL from the reserves..Also, it has been acknowledged by that administration that there was no smoking gun held by Saddam. And what’s worse, there was no advanced preparation for the Iraq invasion: no look into the problems that could arise due to the various peoples who live there not being able to get along. But maybe we should not blame the Frat Boy President; after all, Cheney was the one pulling the strings all along.
    But I guess it is all fine since Dubya spoke with Jesus every morning. Hopefully, Jesus will forgive him.

    • NOFED says:

      WOW did they say he honorably served in the reserves?Its obvious they know nothing about his tour of duty in Alabama lmao do they?

  173. achristropher says:

    Obama said during his Campaign, in one of his many thousands of patting himself on the back empty speeches, that he had visited 57 states and had one more to go to, and I would like to know what and where they are.
    I have looked everywhere on the web and can’t find any info on them.
    You, know that mob of dumbocrats must not have listened during history or civics class?
    Well, as the old saying goes, it will all come out in the wash, I just hope they use a lot of bleach.
    achristropher

  174. Stephaan says:

    I see nothing wrong with obummer receiving the Nobel Peace Prize. After all, was this same award not bestowed on Yasser Arafat?? After that it lost all significance to me. It meant nothing after that, and it means nothing now!

  175. Badbob says:

    I guess that the Nobel piece prize does not mean much anymore. Perhaps any ignorant self centered person could receive the prize(something taken by force). This would fall into the people like, Hitler, Castro, Chaves, and other dictators because of what they might do in the future or what is currently being done now.

  176. Rob James says:

    As a world traveller for the past 45 years, I listen to people’s comments (in Europe, Asia, Latin American, Africa, and the Americas)about my country’s (USA) government through the years. The comments I have heard since Mr. Barack Obama was elected the President of the United States are quite positive and project an air of respect that I did not hear during the Bush years. I tend to be more of a listener, as I find that I learn quite a bit more when I listen than when I argue or get defensive. My own level of respect for the White House has also increased from that which I experienced during my years working in the Capitol and working with the Department of Defense. My limited experience indicates that the people of the United States did well in voting for and electing President Barack Obama and I must admit that it is refreshing to hear and “feel” re-newed respect for our country. Thank you for the opportunity to share my experience.

  177. Robert Kirschke says:

    Is Barry Sortero alias Barrack Hussein Obama II a U.S. citizen? He states that he was not born in Hawaii, but in Kenya. His Father was Kenyan and his Mother was American under 18. He went to Indonesia with his mother and step father and was named Barry Sortero. He traveled to Pakistan in the eighties on an Indonesian Passport. When did he get a green card and become a U.S. Citizen. Was he not a foreign exchange student from Indonesia as Barry?
    This all should be investigated by the National Security Agency and the FBI and all those involved in this deceit of the American people should be tried for treason.
    This will never happen because Obama controls it all.

  178. KATHLEEN says:

    STILL blaming Bush? At least he cares about the U.S.A. O’Bama apologizes for our country and thinks he’s kind of the world. ClassLESS. Can’t wait to vote him outta office!

  179. Ron says:

    Those who voted to award the peace prize to Obama should be totally ashamed of themself and they need to resign as they are not American patriots. A leader who makes peace by bowing and apologizing to other countries when our soldiers died for our country is a total disgrace. Here is a man who is as racist, a muslem, a man filled with hatred for the American people, and he has this award bestowed upon him. He is a coward who thinks he is God. What has he ever done to get such an award. At lease Jimmy Carter did some humanitarian good for the people of the USA. Obama should get one more award in the form of a hangman’s neuse and as the worse leader in history. He is very close to the likes of Hitler.

  180. NOFED says:

    Whoever made the statement that only in this country can you find racism? lmao have u been out of the continental U.S.?

  181. jopa says:

    Now we know President Obama deserves the Nobel peace prize after getting the worlds worst terrorists.Thank You Mr. President

  182. newton says:

    THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE HAS LOST ALL MY RESPECT IT MEANS NOTHING . GIVING IT TO OBAMA IS SILLY GIVING IT TO THE LIKES OF YASSUR ARAFAT PROVES WHO EVER IS A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE WHO VOTES TO AWARD THE PEACE PRIZE IS EITHER STUPID OR OUT THERE IN THE FRINGES OF THE TWILIGHT ZONE.
    THE SEALS ,WITH THE HELP OF MANY OTHER PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD IN THE INTELLEGENCE COMMUNITY FOUND AND ELIMINATED THE WORLDS WORST TERROIST. OBAMA SHOULD ONLY BE GIVEN CREDIT FOR NOT HAMPERING THE EFFORTS OF THOSE WHO HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT US. I BELIEVE THAT OBAMA AS WELL AS MANY OTHER LIBERALS HAVE NOTHING BUT DESDAIN FOR THE MILITARY AND INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY.

  183. Joe says:

    Obama is a snake oil salesman,and G Soros is the supplier.
    And the ignorant people just follow along,because,they do not think for them seleves.They are used to the govt. telling them how/what to think.Its called propagander.
    This administration is so vindictive,that anyone who is not in line ,it will seek to destroy .
    America,2012 is almost upon us,let US make a change,for US.

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