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Immigration bill by year's end, Obama says

August 11, 2009 by  

Immigration bill by year's end, Obama says At the end of the summit of North American leaders, President Obama vowed to have an immigration bill proposal ready by the end of 2009.

Speaking in Guadalajara, Mexico, yesterday Obama also said the reform will be challenging and he expected "demagogues" to try to prevent a legalization of those who are already in the U.S.

With that, he appeared to suggest he would push for an amnesty on those who have entered the country illegally, something groups like the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) oppose, fearing it will lead to even higher unemployment among Americans.

"We cannot keep our heads in the sand and ignore the impact illegal immigration has on wages and jobs," Dan Stein, president of the FAIR, said earlier this year.

"It is a fiscal necessity and moral imperative to protect the American worker," he added, citing figures suggesting the illegal alien population has grown to 1.7 million in Texas, a 16 percent increase since 2005, costing the state about $5.9 billion annually.

Others take a different view, however.

For example, Frank Sharry, executive director of America’s Voice, believes the public wants to see legalization so that aliens are also "paying their taxes and not being used by bad-acting employers to undercut honest employers."

The president said his officials had already begun meeting with lawmakers in order to come up with an immigration plan acceptable to both Democrats and Republicans.

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  • DaveH

    Ron,
    Obviously Bob doesn’t want limited government. My treatise to the other side of the immigration issue, and a reference to a Libertarian book online by Murray Rothbard (both in the same comment) got deleted. Apparently Big Government is good for Bob as long as it is right-wing. Better research the definition of “personal liberty” Bob.

  • DaveH

    Same thing happened to me Ron. And I noticed Jose’s comment got deleted. Wow. Censorship from a supposed conservative.

  • Ron

    Bob,

    This is the last time I am at your articles website I see you also deleted my feedback and from what I can see the articles you left are anti-immigrant I can only conclude you think the same way. This is a dissapointment. Your writing style does not resemble your ideas. I though you were a fair journalist but I guess I was wrong. Definitely
    not worth while to have an intelectual exchange with you nor your readers…………..

    Ron

  • Ron

    Bob and Ali,

    I think now I know what your opinion is…………………there are many Illegals that have higher degrees than you and myself and pay their taxes just ask a cab driver or any person doing yard work especially if they are form Europe…………..you get it all wrong!!

    • Meteorlady

      If they are paying taxes whose identity are they using? Mine, yours?

  • Ron

    ALL and especially Dan Stein,

    The Lawmakers will decide eventually what they will, regardless of your or my opinion. Immigration Reform goes beyond illegal aliens and border security which should be included in the bill BUT National Security and acquisition of brain power!!! for a competitive country in the future…..!! Senator Schumer and Graham will do a great job based on this. I think Dan Stein has good ponts on immigration but gets too polarized on the illegal aliens issue! I am talking about the ones that have families and no criminal record and most likely some of them have higher education than Dan Stein myself and others…………………

    Dan where is your sense of intelect, compassion, and to solve the problem in a constructive manner. As per your last name I would guess you only have family here maybe from the 1950′s unless your mother side goes all the way back. We have a problem was not addressed until after 9/11 this strongly which we should deal with smartly. Africans Americans were brought to America illegaly to be slaves, the indians were killed and taken away from their land by our ancestors………now individuals came here illegaly but as a comparison to the above the do have rights and established a way of life here. So we have as a nation been in this situation already however sahpe or form. You can’t blame them if americans offered them jobs and they stayed and further there was no law enforcement. You and FAIR should be going towards the main critical path of he issue that is americans enforcing the law not only the government. It is a situation where we are all responsible for it.

    As a responsible Nation and as americans we should deal and fix this constructively. Learn and grow from it to handle it in a better way in the future.

    • eyeswideopen

      OMG a rational person!!!!….Hey have you seen any cost associated with deporting 12-20 million people from this country? What about the children born on US soil… legally they are citizens regardless of how they got here..any ideas on what legal impact in the courts?? The cost of the lawsuits, when you try to seperate parents from child would be a couple of billion don’t you think?? If you have any cost info I would really appreciate knowing. Thx in advance.

      • Dora

        To Eyeswideopen: The comments you made about it costing a lot to send them home is right and that is why we MUST hammer our representatives to abolish that “ANCHOR” baby debacle that is costing this nation a blue mint. On the average 330,000 pregnant ILLEGAL alien mothers hop across our borders EVERY year and have baby at tax-payer expense and that baby instantly become an American citizen eligible to EVERY handout this nation offers. Then when that illegal alien mother is CAUGHT and they want to send her home she yells “I HAVE AN AMERICAN BORN BABY – you can’t separate a family” That is a crock and that “anchor” baby bill has LONG outlived its usefulness and needs to be abolished. Let us all hammer DC to abolish that anchor baby debacle.

      • Ron

        Dora,

        Read this article and maybe you will come down………

        http://www.americasvoiceonline.org/blog/entry/immigration_reform_as_economic_stimulus/

      • Meteorlady

        They have those babies at our expense – increased health care costs to all of us. Figure out adding 330,000 births that are free – then add what a birth in a hospital costs – that is the cost to our health care system and we all pay for that. These people don’t want to stay home and fight for their own country so what do you think will happen with them in our country? More welfare, free healthcare, etc. Get a clue – they work for cash, don’t pay taxes, send their kids to our schools without English skills, they live in subsidized housing or rent a house and move 5 families in. They are decreasing the US wage scales and our standard of living. Now tell me again why I should support people breaking our laws and getting rewarded for it?

      • Ron

        eyeswideopen,

        It is hard to quantify the impact on ~ 6% of the population out of which we don’t exacly know all details ( paying taxes, family work etc etc) as people panic in making conclusions. I would say Robert Rector of the Heritage Foundation and Steven Camarota from the Research Director from the Center for Immigration Studies do research and try to understand immigration from all angles.

      • Ron

        eyeswideoen I finally found an interesting article you might enjoy reading. there it goes

        http://www.americasvoiceonline.org/blog/entry/immigration_reform_as_economic_stimulus/

  • Ron

    Bob Livinsgton,

    Check this out,

    http://www.steinreport.com/archives/012710.html

    I put my comment in Dan Stein the same as the above and to mask the fact he would not publish my comments he erased all of them instead………I thought Dan Stein was a man or principles where he accepts feedback but it appears he cannot handle the facts of the truth

  • Tactical111

    One small fact overlooked here is that once an illegal is given U.S. Citizenship he can then sponsor up to 200 family members from Mexico to become USC’s. And good point about the 1986 “amnesty”. The only thing you get when you reward bad behavior is more bad behavior. Also blame the elites and Global Corps. and gov. shills ( Dems and Repubs) who push for “free trade” which is really just a free ticket for Global Corps to exploit third world people and their environments in pursuit of the Almighty Dollar. NAFTA flooded Mexico with cheap Monster Agro Co. corn and put the small Mexican farmers out of business so they headed north for work. The Gov. and world is being taken over by the Global Banksters, Multinational Corps. who now control the currency, the Gov, the food ( Codex Alimentarius coming), the so called “media”, Big Pharma, Hollywood, Newspapers, Diseasecare,( manditory vaccines that create customers), etc. A start to take it back would be to back Ron Paul’s push to audit the “Fed” and expose the Criminal Network in charge of our currency.

  • http://personalliberty Lisa Lomeli

    Hose, We do not mind if you and your family are here LEGALLY! When you come here and expect to be taken care of by the American tax payer, it is wrong! You say you can’t get a job in your own country so you have a right to be here. This to is wrong. Do you pay taxes? Are you able to take care of yourself without taking benefits from the government (this includes medical care)? Do you have a legal drivers license? Are you on food stamps? Are you able to pay for your own living expenses (rent, utilities etc.)? What makes you think you have the right to come and live off of other peoples money? You obviously do not know the history of the United States and what it takes to be an American citizen. So, until you can take care of your own family without the help of the government, go home!!!!

    • txsuezq

      Exactly!!!

      Why not go back home and run for office (politician is a job) and make Mexico a better place for Mexicans?

  • http://constitution Melody

    Okay, give them amnesty, but they must all learn english, speakable english, and pass a basic test of intelligence, and criminal background check. English is the language period. Learn to speak it or go back to your country and don’t come back.

    • Ron

      Melody,

      You can be sure in some shape or form what you said it is the way it will happen if Comprenhensive Immigration Reform happens.

    • Meteorlady

      You might want to add that they are not eligible for any government services – they must work to pay their own way. Plus they must pay back everything they have taken from us as taxpayers – free education, free medical, subsidized housing, food stamps – oh heck, you get the message.

  • http://constitution Melody

    How about immigrants pay back the taxpayers a penalty. For every year they were in this country using the government to provide everything from education, to grants, to free health care, they must pay all that money back, or they can go back to the country they came from. Their choice, work for your freedom, or get the hell out and don’t come back.

  • Deb A.

    Aren’t the illegals here working and making money? It’s the Americans who are out of work. If the illegals are working and making money then why can’t they pay for their health insurance like the rest of us?

    • txsuezq

      Amen Deb A!!!

      Why are we forced to educate their children in our public schools if they do not plan to get in line and become citizens LEGALLY?

  • Nanette Olson

    ANMENTY IS TREASON!!!!

    • http://yahoo.com Sue

      Nanette Olson says:
      August 14, 2009 at 6:56 pm
      ANMENTY IS TREASON!!!!

      Absolutely not! These illegal aliens were not caught, when they entered the country illegally, and I cannot believe how many benefits they get, when I don’t have a health insurance, since I don’t have a job, and I get no help! Now, we give them AMNESTY, and they start to work legally, they have to pay taxes, and that would ease our burdens.

      Technically speaking, ***It is not Illegal Aliens*** that has caused this country to hit the pit! It is covetousness, greed, the occult practices, and the male female sophisticated prostition, which has increased the ****ILLEGAL CHILDREN****, by the millions, who are on WELFARE FOOD! They get to screw around like cockroaches, and just drop dozens of children, per generation, and come out to eat free! It costs monies to feed all those folks, that should have never been born, and what about all the other stuff, with which they us the taxpayers! If we don’t give them, AMNESTY, then we get to pay **ALL** the bills. Do you want that? I don’t!

  • Mack Bowman

    Why has Congress done nothing to stop illegal immigration? When they took the oath of office they swore to uphold the Constitution of the United States. By not living up to their oath is grounds for impeachment. We need to march on Washington and take back our Government from this do nothing Representatives. They were elected to serve us and they are only self-serving. It has been determined that there is a Latino born in this country every 30 seconds. With approximately 58 million (legal and illegal) already in the country, just how long will it take for the Latino’s to be in the majority?
    When this happens, will we be known as the United States of Mexico?
    I hope I do not live to see the Country that I and my brothers, father, uncles, cousins and nephews have fought and died to keep our America free and strong be handed over to people who have no right to be here.

  • http://none Shirley Trieschman

    ILLEGALS SHOULD NOT BE REWARDED FOR ILLEGAL ACTS. YOU ARE ONLY ASKING FOR MORE ILLEGALS TO ENTER OUR COUNTRY. STOP YOUR INTRUSION NOW!!!!

  • EJB

    We have the laws, we have a constitution,,enforce both and we will not have a problem..Illegal means illegal. you don’t reward a criminal, you prosicute them…obama is a communist that is literally destroying the United States,,on purpose…We don’t want government control, we want our constitution adhered to. We want our laws inforced NOw. wE WANT ILLEGAL immigrant prosecuted, not rewarded…LISTEN, OBAMA, NO MORE GOVERNMENT CONTROL, GET YOUR DAMN NOSE OUT OF OUR BUSINESS…..

  • Earlw

    What part of ILLEGAL don’t the pro immigration symps understand? This country CANNOT support another 20 million immigrants of ANY stripe! We have plenty of native-born people HERE out of work, whether “qualified” or not. What ever happened to training? OJT? What about all those who will end up on welfare because they were displaced by illegals? Either way we lose! Then there is the issue of La Raza and others stating that their goal is to overwhelm us with high birthrates and bury our culture with theirs. That is a declaration ow war!

    If all the illegals were to stay and fight it out in their country to change their government, there wouldn’t be any need to immigrate. Mexico, as an example, is a beautiful land with a rich culture. why give that up for a poor life here, when you could MAKE a better life there? Don’t tell me it cant be done! if 50 million Mexicans decide to do something, WHO could stop them. We are going to have to fight to keep ours in America. You do the same in Mexico!

    • txsuezq

      That’s exactly what I was thinking! If La Raza can do such a wonderful job organizing “it’s peeps” to take over OUR govt would’nt it be easier to take that battle south. Seems like the Mexican govt is prime for a takeover. Or maybe La Raza’s just tired of the hot weather.

  • John Gray

    I am a veteran of the United States Air Force, I do not like where my Country that I got severely hurt defending. If B. O. makes it possible fo the UN-Americans to be here leally. I know the will be an uprising that would make North Korea Uprising look like a bunch of children playing in a play ground We nee this Muslem out of office and let the Democrates in the house and senate know tht they are commiting career suicide. Please yu can still be in the milatary and fight for america and you do not have to sign up to do it. Just Do all you can do by notifying you local Reps and Senators of what you want. Remember they work for you and if they are not doing a good job. GET THEM OUT OF OFFICE. ###1 America

  • http://google Kerri

    Obama and the dems. and left want amnesty because they see 12 to 20 million more voters for their voting block. They don’t care about us, they only care about getting re-elected. America has made their views quite clear on this subject on more than one occasion. We have said no to amnesty, open borders, path to citizenship for illegals. Why then are they still pushing it? For Votes. You don’t get taxes from illiterate, uneducated, low skill or no skill people. They are on tax payer benefits for a reason. The ones that don’t have the good jobs have minimum wage jobs, hence pay no taxes. Just take from the system. They are illegal and demanding rights as if they were American Citizens. They are not in the shadows. They are marching in our streets and protesting on our capital steps. We have laws against entering our country illegally with penalties to go with the laws. Our gov. has a constituional duty to enforce the laws of our country. They are hanging the American people out to dry in favor of millions of illegals. If you talk about an invasion how many people would make an invasion. 12 to 20 million?

    • txsuezq

      Kerri it’s time for you to run for office!! You SO get the big picture!

    • Smilee

      Gee

      Bush & McCain tried hard to get the type of immigration bill you describe but were unable to and they most certainly are not your typical liberals. Obama has not yet given us a plan but you are attacking it anyway. Sort of like goosing ghosts in the dark I guess.

    • Valerie

      I agree that the dems want support, but these illegals won’t be getting citizenship, just legal status, which won’t make them eligible to vote. Still, having the support is a valuable thing, if one considers Obamamania.

      Inasmuch as I want the illegals gone, I don’t think that deporting them is going to change the employment status of most of America’s unemployed. Too many of the jobs they are occupying are jobs that most Americans will turn their nose up at. I don’t know a single American who is going to go pick vegetables, gut chickens, etc. for minimum wage. Look at places like northwest Arkansas. The hillbillies in that area would rather be unemployed, leaching off their girlfriend and kids (on welfare) than get a job at the Tyson chicken plant.

      We also need to change the current citizenship law (retroactively) to state that children born in the USA of parents who are not in the country legally do not automatically gain citizenship. We can’t legally deport the mothers right now, because of their anchor babies. Deporting the only working person in the household isn’t exactly a great idea, so we need a way to be able to deport the whole family.

  • Robin from Indiana

    Legalizing people who are in our country illegally and giving them amnesty is insane. Once they become ‘Americans’ there will be no end to the hand outs they expect and will feel entitled to. They are already draining this country by taking welfare benefits, schooling, filling up our prisons, and the list goes on! Only a fool who thinks that granting them amnesty will solve anything. What will solve the problem is armed guards on the boarder and fencing. Deporting all who are ‘caught’ would help, too. I think this administration better be thinking of correcting the things that are making life hard on those who are born Americans, legally. Lack of jobs and spending money on those who don’t contribute to our society is not helping our society. Any moron would know that!

  • Tim Hutson

    Just Don’t Pay! Lets stop paying the government!

  • rick

    Lots of new and different types of immigrants entering the US today (not just hispanics, but middle easterners). If we want them to assimilate, it’s important to have a very identifiable culture to which they can adapt– the US cannot become like some european cities where there is no identifiable culture, but rather just a lot of different languages and different cultures not interacting with each other.

    This article talks about some disturbing affects of immigration, but is not xenophobic:
    http://www.mindreign.com/en/mindshare/World-Politics-and-Current-Events/Do-Immigrants-Need-to-Assimilate-More-3f/sl34045952bp444cpp5pn1.html

    • Ron

      Rick,

      I agree that immigrants should or must assimilate to the point to at least one generation if possible. First time citizens should have ingrained the willingness to protect their new country US in case of a War and not going back where they came from whe given the situation. Interestingly enough Switzerland’s citizenship requirements are one of the toughest in the planet. If a child is born from foreign nationals at their time of the interview they will ask questions related to how much they have been integrated if the answers are not of their satisfaction they will will not become citizens of Switzerland and will have to return 10 years later. However, we must understand the US is a big country and this will be a major challenge as to how our culture will evolve and the new social face will be the one ruling in the future……..something you and I and others will have no control over………..but to raise our children loving this land and being aware we are not alone in this planet……………….

  • Delaware Bob

    With the economy as bad as it is, obama better get these illegal aliens out of this Country.

    Illegal aliens have made America the dumping ground for all their illegal alien children, then we have to school them and give them free medical care.

    I for one, am sick and tired of these ILLEGAL ALIENS snubbing their nose at our immigration laws and the many other laws of this Country. If our Federal Government can not ENFORCE our immigration laws, and get these ILLEGAL ALIENS out of this Country, then let the States do it! One way or another, an end has to come to this illegal immigration, and not with AMNESTY! Amnesty will only encourage more ILLEGAL ALIENS to invade our Country and reward those who broke our laws and raped the American taxpayer in many ways…depressing our wages, taking our jobs, overwhelming our schools with their ILLEGAL ALIEN children, driving without a license or car insurance, all the crime from stolen identities to rape, drugs and everything else.

    It’s time for ZERO TOLERENCE with these ILLEGAL ALIENS. It’s time for them get out of this Country and back in their own Country where they belong. When we get rid of the ILLEGAL ALIENS, we will get rid of all the problems that go with them. THAT IS A FACT!

    • Dora

      NO AMNESTY of ANY kind! Put Americans back to work. Vicinte Fox President of Mexico at that time said we had closer to 25 MILLION over here then. It is proably 30 MILLION now. I saw a video the other day place on just ONE crossing into the US and the video was there for 35 days and over 400 illegal aliens crossed into OUR borders at ONLY ONE CROSSING. Our government plays it down to about 12 million but that is a bald faced lie. if you watched ANY of those marches, they said they were here to take back this nation and they would do it by immigration and their love for babies. They had UGLY signs to the “gringo”. They had a sign that said to the gringo “Go back to England where you came from, this is OUR country, NOT yours”. Yet we don’t have the GUTS to send them back home and abide by our laws. We are also taking in 1 MILLION LEGAL aliens a year. We have also sent MILLIONS of American jobs overseas. We bring 165,000 a year over here to train to take American jobs and when they leave this nation, they take that job back with them. America has become WEAK in the PANTS and allows Mexico to dictate to us. The socialist/marxist/communist in the halls of Congress WANT them over here so they can always have the majority rule and then they can push their ideologies down our throats. At http://www.cpusa.org in the article Program of the Communist Party USA on page 52 it says To fulfill the role (destroying the capitalist system in America) the Communist Party needs the following characteristics, first in outlook, leading to actual leadership status among the working class and all working people. The Communist Party must be:
      1. a party of the working class, PART of the class but its MOST ADVANCED SEGMENT, (The GOVERNMENT in other words)
      2. a party of SOCIALISM,
      3. based on MARXISM-LENINISM,
      4. engaged in protetaria INTERNATIOALISM (THE UN IN CONTROL)
      5. organized on the principle of democratic CENTRALISM (GOVERNMENT OWNING EVERYTHING)
      Read it for yourself and get your EYES OPENED!

  • Curtis

    The American people overwhelmingly oppose and reject “comprehensive immigration reform” which is a euphemism for amnesty for 12-20 million illegal aliens. How dare the pro-amnesty, anti-American worker elites such as Sharry push amnesty for millions of illegal foreign workers when nearly 15 million unemployed Americans are looking for work!! Besides, we already passed “comprehensive reform” in 1986 which failed and led to more illegal immigration. NO MORE!

    • txsuezq

      Until we elect a president with the courage to use the border as a border was intended, we’ll keep having to exhaust ourselves fighting these amnesty legistlation battles.

    • http://yahoo.com sue

      Hey Curtis!

      You are not a representative of all the American People! Some of them are very smart, and they would prefer to have those illegal aliens to work for them, than you, who have no real knowledge about the subject!

      Example: An Air Control Operator, was supposed to me monitoring the issues pertaining to his job, but he was on a personal phone call, and his supervisor was out, when he should have been on the job, and 9 people died in a recent NY Air Collision! They were both Americans!
      NY is going to suffer the consequences for that, when the Italian Law Suit comes in!!!!!

      Had it been a foreigner on that job, he would have been paying serious attention to that job, and his personal phone calls would have had to wait until he gets off the job! Got it? Foreigners are trained in a very different way from Americans. Their parents get married, get children, and take care of them, and they spend quality time, to cook, and clean for them, and to advise them on the do’s and don’ts of life, and the consequences for disobedience! Got it?

      • Dora

        Your name is SUE but I would like to know what country you are from. You are certainly NOT for America. Illegal aliens invading this nation is why our medical is in such a mess. That “chain” immigration that Ted Kennedy pushed through legislation in 1965 is one big reason our medical is in such a mess. The can bring their elderly over here and put them in our nursing homes and get care as long as they live and they have never paid in ONE RED CENT into the kitty. That is plain flat DUMB of America. Illegal aliens have been getting FREE medical, FREE schooling, welfare, food stamps, and reduced government housing for YEARS and I heard a report just yesterday that we are getting more and more of Mexico’s uneducated over here and although some of them DO PAY taxes instead of getting their money in cash and never reporting it, the welfare and other stuff the get that I mentioned above FAR exceeds what they pay in by $20,000 a year for EACH one that is over here. THAT is WHY this country is going bankrupt. The other reason is because we take in so many foreign goods and send American money to other nations and the imbalance of trade is TRILLIONS of dollars. No wonder we have to keep the printing press running. NAFTA and CAFTA have been GOOD for everybody EXCEPT America. We CANNOT keep giving amnesty and paying all those people all the freebies for as long as the feeding trough is out, who can blame them for coming over here and taking advantage of the freebies. A LOT of Americans would do the SAME thing and they do for many are just plain flat too lazy to get out and get a job and make their OWN living, they WANT the Government to take care of them. That is socialism – taking it from people with the GRIT and GUTS to WORK and giving it to those that are too darn lazy to work. Millions of our boys and girls have died fighting communism in other nations and yet it has got a FOOT hold here in our OAWN nation and MOST Americans are so DUMB they can’t see it.

    • Valerie

      Right on! Amnesty has already proven to be a dismal failure. Giving illegal immigrants “legal status” will serve one purpose — the make them eligible for Obamacare.

  • Ali

    This constant refrain of pro-amnesty types such as Mr. Sharry that legalized illegal aliens will “pay taxes” is a bunch of hogwash. Illegal aliens are illegal BECAUSE THEY’RE UNEDUCATED AND UNSKILLED. Legalization won’t change that. Instead, it would give them access to yet more benefits and welfare that is not now available including the earned income tax credit. As it is, California has the most welfare recipients in the country, and one-third of those households are headed by illegal aliens who receive welfare on behalf of their U.S.-born kids.

    • http://yahoo.com Sue

      Ali: Your comment is not smart. If there is no Immigration Reform, then you will continue to pay the bills, for the illegal immigrants. It is time for the Americans, and Alien Immigrants, whose back, bear the burdens of this nation, to enjoy some of what they have worked for, without paying for illegal immigrants, jail-birds, welfare thieves, senseless wars, and ****bail-outs****, especially for the witless wallstreet gang of thieves, and Detroit twits, who have enough monies to buy personal airplanes, and sunk their businesses! And, What about the huger, than huge****DEFICIT****The reality is stark, but if we think ****BUILD AMERICA****, and forget about all this Democrat/Republican nonsense, we can rise once again, to higher heights, and deeper depths in prosperity, and success. Ali, we can do it!

      • Valerie

        The huge deficit? You have got to be kidding? This administration has already spent more than EVERY OTHER ADMINISTRATION SINCE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE UNITED STATES COMBINED!!!!!

        You’re obviously a naive liberal, with no real world experience. Yes, the US was built and grown by immigrants (obviously since we’re not all native americans), but they weren’t ILLEGAL immigrants. Big difference. And they didn’t come here to get welfare and free medical care, either. They came to work, and if you look at the sheer numbers of illegals on welfare, that obviously isn’t the case anymore.

        I agree that corporate welfare is borderline criminal — and we can thank the democratic congress for it. Keep in mind, congress can override the president, not the other way around.

        Personally I think all of congress needs to go. They’ve proven that they don’t intend to do the bidding of the citizens, which is what they were elected for.

  • s c

    So b o has vowed to give us a proposal. Does he know the difference between a proposal and legislation? I doubt it. He frothed at the mouth about hitting the ground running before he was elected. Has he had a single idea of his own since moving into the White House? What does it take for him to have an idea of his own?
    Oh, I forgot. B O is a community organizer. He can work with some people, but ideas are beyond him. He’s trying to manipulate the polls in advance. He thinks vows and promises are the same as results. He thinks as long as something comes out of his mouth (or one of his czars), that somehow makes him a leader.
    He should have gone into the military before he went to Harvard.
    Then he could claim he had both feet in the real world – temporarily. He’s anything but a functional planner, and the idea that he’s technically the C-I-C disgusts me.
    What we’ve got here is far worse than a ‘failure to communicate.’ Folks, if you ever wondered what someone meant by the bottom of the barrel, now you know.

    • http://yahoo.com Sue

      Your comment is a piece of junk, and you should really work on your bigotry SC, then think ***America***, not Democrat, nor Republican. Between those two names, is a division, called a ***GULF***like that which divides HEAVEN from HELL, and if you want to stay suspened in mid-air, with your feet touching ****NOTHING****, and your hands holding on to ****NOTHING***between earth, and ***HEAVEN***, then you stay there! The whole of America does not consist of twits like you! We need to build a country, and President Obama is one of the few people, who has ever tried to build this nation. Everyone before that, created false situations, whereby, they were handed tax-payers monies to do whatever junk they wanted to do, including filling their pockets with our tax-payers’ monies. So hush your mouth twit, and let America move on progessively, for the better!

      Note: If you are on Welfare, you have made women into single mothers, and your children are eating welfare food, and they don’t know who their daddy is, and if you have blood, and murders on your hands, you are a loser, ***that is being at the bottom of the barrel***, and you are not qualified to speak!!!!!

      Your comments reflect jealousy, covetousness, mixed with utter stupidity! You hate the fact that he is a Blackman, but if God does not have a problem with his color, who the hell are you? Get a life!

      sc says:
      August 12, 2009 at 11:29 am
      So b o has vowed to give us a proposal. Does he know the difference between a proposal and legislation? I doubt it. He frothed at the mouth about hitting the ground running before he was elected. Has he had a single idea of his own since moving into the White House? What does it take for him to have an idea of his own?
      Oh, I forgot. B O is a community organizer. He can work with some people, but ideas are beyond him. He’s trying to manipulate the polls in advance. He thinks vows and promises are the same as results. He thinks as long as something comes out of his mouth (or one of his czars), that somehow makes him a leader.
      He should have gone into the military before he went to Harvard.
      Then he could claim he had both feet in the real world – temporarily. He’s anything but a functional planner, and the idea that he’s technically the C-I-C disgusts me.
      What we’ve got here is far worse than a ‘failure to communicate.’ Folks, if you ever wondered what someone meant by the bottom of the barrel, now you know.

      • Valerie

        Wow! How did you get from that comment to it being about race?

        I’m guessing since it turned into a race issue with you that you are probably black, right?

        And what exactly has Obama done to BUILD this country? All he’s done is rack up more debt than every other administration since the beginning of this country COMBINED. And so far, there’s nothing to show for it. Rampant government spending didn’t work in the 1930s, and it won’t work now. So, where is your loyalty coming from? OB doesn’t exactly have a stellar resume of actual accomplishments. He may be brilliant, or not, hard to tell, since he’s usually reading a teleprompter (and when he doesn’t he usually screws up). He is charismatic, but that doesn’t mean he’s taking this country in the right direction.

      • eyeswideopen

        You need to check your facts… here’s one,Medicare Advantage passed by Bush in 2003, it was supposed to cost not more than 400 BILLION,over a ten year period of time, in 2005 the White House Budget Committee stated it was increased to 1.2TRILLION over 10 years. See article in Washington Post 2-9-2005. That my dear, was the single largest increase in our history.Passed by the Republicans.Another fact for you, IBM is to be paid 400 million in subsidy from 2006 to 2012, to not eliminate private prescription coverage to retired workers.Oh joy we get to pay IBM and hundreds of other insurance companies a subsidy so that they will do the right thing and not cancel benifits to their retired work force…Yes the Republicans did this… amazing isn’t it??

      • Meteorlady

        Then if I read you you should be totally against Government run health care? The Prescription Drug benefit package was supposed to have price controls built in but that was removed in the “House” version and the Senate voted on it that way. You can blame Bush (again) but he just signed the thing because it was going to pass anyway via over-ride of a veto.

      • Dora

        Sue, you have your HEAD stuck in the sand if you can’t see that Obama is Socialist/Communist. He had 7 years under a communist mentor and 10 years in a Muslim school. It is not a matter of black or white but in where he is leading this nation. Please go to http://www.cpusa.org and read the article “Program of the Communist Party USA. Educate yourslef as to where this nation is headed and obama is certainly pushing it over edge. Build the country, my hind leg, he is DESTROYING it! The aim of the communist is to destroy the capitalist system in this nation – READ it for yourself. Obama also had two close communist friends when he was running for president but most people had their ears stuffed with cotton or something and REFUSED to LISTEN to what he was saying. Davis and Ayers were his friends and both of them are communist. My mother always told me “you are known by the company you keep”. I can guarantee you, that you won’t like living under a communist dictatorship which is what we are going to get unless people like you get your head out of the SAND and see TRUTH. Go to your search engine and type in 45 Long Term Communist Goals for America and see how many of them have already been FULFILLED. If the government gets control of our health care system, they can just about take control of everything else for when people are sick, they will do almost anything to get relief and the Socialist/Communist/Marxist in the halls of congress KNOW that.

      • Bill

        Wow! This is not a race issue. You do have nice writing skills though.

      • http://facebook tammy jo hammond

        Sue, your comment was the stupidest, most disrespectful, full of bigotry comment i have ever had the displeasure of reading..i agree with SC……

    • Smilee

      s c

      Putting yourself in judgment of a man that is intellectually far more superior than you has got to be the biggest JOKE of the day.

      • http://yahoo.com sue

        Thank you, Smilee. SC is just a self-centered, illiterate, twit!

      • eyeswideopen

        I think she thought he should rebuild America in just six months, doesn’t matter it took 12 years cause this holy mess. She must be young and impatient.

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