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Government Seeks to Grab Guns to Aid Mexico

April 20, 2009 by  

Government Seeks to Grab Guns to Aid Mexico

A lucrative criminal enterprise is growing in Mexico and being exported across the border in the United States.

No, it’s not the sale of drugs, although that activity continues unabated despite the running battles between drug cartels and the Mexican government. Battles that are growing so intense that Mexican officials—like mayors and police chiefs—are beginning to live across the border in Texas to stay safe.

The new enterprise is kidnapping, and the incidents are growing in frequency and becoming more and more violent by the day.

According to the Stratfor Global Security and Intelligence Report, Mexican gangs have begun targeting people in different socio-economic levels: from the very wealthy to the common man or woman, and even foreign tourists. And just as the targets vary, the reasons for the kidnapping vary as well.

Some are kidnapped by drug gangs to intimidate, to extract information or just to “have fun” at the expense of a rival drug gang through torture and murder. Still others hold the victims for weeks in order to extract large ransoms. And sometimes the thugs just grab and hold a victim off the streets—whether a Mexican citizen or a foreign tourist—long enough to use his ATM card to clean out the bank account.

It’s gotten so bad that Stratfor calls Mexico the kidnapping capitol of the world, and gangs are beginning to use something called a virtual kidnapping: calling people and telling them they have kidnapped a family member and collecting a ransom without actually having kidnapped anybody.

And it’s begun to spill across the border with reports of kidnappings for ransom or murder—usually illegal immigrants so far—occurring in Texas and Arizona.

So how does the administration of President Barack Obama respond? Attorney General Eric Holder called for a ban on so-called assault weapons. Holder said in a February news conference that such a ban would help cut down the flow of guns going across the border.

But the types of weapons that would be banned are not the type commonly being used by gangs and drug cartels. In their battles with police the criminals are employing fragmentation grenades, fully automatic weapons and rocket-propelled grenades. After a recent battle in which five cartel gunmen were killed and several more wounded, police even recovered a 60-mm mortar—all weapons that are unavailable to average citizens in the U.S. under existing laws.

Yet Holder believes that disarming Americans, as violent drug cartels battle along the border and kidnapping gangs sneak into America, is the right course of action.

And Holder and Obama aren’t the only ones trying to disarm U.S. citizens. Currently in Congress is H.R. 45 which will “prohibit a person from possessing a firearm unless that person has been issued a firearm license under this Act or a state system certified under this Act and such license has not been invalidated or revoked.”

In Albany, NY, lawmakers are considering legislation that would tightly regulate the sale of all ammunition. The new law would require anyone “buying rounds or shells, even .22s, would have to show identification, declare the gun and have its serial number registered with the ammo seller. The buyer would have to state his intent of use, and could be refused the purchase. The ammo seller, at the same time, would be required to keep records for 10 years.”

Never mind the Second Amendment, which guarantees that the right to keep and bear arms will not be infringed. Never mind the 10th Amendment, which restricts the U.S. Government from taking over powers not specifically enumerated by the Constitution.

It’s becoming increasingly obvious that those in Government who have taken an oath to defend the Constitution are more interested in shredding it to remove any obstacles to their seizing more and more power.

Bob Livingston

is an ultra-conservative American who has been writing a newsletter since 1969. Bob has devoted much of his life to research and the quest for truth on a variety of subjects. Bob specializes in health issues such as nutritional supplements and alternatives to drugs, as well as issues of privacy (both personal and financial), asset protection and the preservation of freedom.

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  • doc

    Government who have taken an oath to defend the Constitution are more interested in shredding it to remove any obstacles to their seizing more and more power. Thay are not getting my guns.

  • http://www.SolutionsIEC.com jasony

    This is just another way O’bama and his crew are looking to twist the truth to fit their agenda. America needs to wake up to what the agenda is and not listen to his cleverness. I, for one, am insulted that O’bama and his crew talk down to us like they do, suggesting that we’re too stupid to know any better than the deceit they are feeding us. We need to speak out and speak up intelligently on the issues to our Congressmen and women, making sure they understand that there are a large number of intelligent Americans that know better and are will to call them on their garbage – hold them to a real transparency, not the crap they are trying to feed us as the truth!

  • DK the Pontificator

    Do the math … 90,000,000 U.S. gunowners versus 100,000 U.S. troop, minus 40,000 of them who will defect if ordered to kill U.S. citizens = 60,000 U.S. troops versus 90,000,000 U.S. gunowners + all of the county sheriffs who would rather see the populus armed than disarmed. We’ve been through the assault weapons ban before during the Clinton years. It didn’t work then either. Any right thinking government official knows that the average American is peace-loving and doesn’t want violence and is hard-working and doesn’t spend every waking moment thinking about who he’s going to point his weapon at. Any wrong thinking government official [mostly of the Democratic persuasion, like Dianne Feinstein, carry a gun themselves for protection] does not have the conscience to see a third of this country’s population rounded up and eliminated. Just because we need population control doesn’t mean they’ll take away your weapons. AIDS, drunk drivers, disease, tainted food … there are a host of things that are already killing innocent Americans. Gun crimes are WAY DOWN on the list. When the people fear the government you have tyranny. THINK!

  • Arley Steinhour

    Well Said, Bob. Sadly, I fear the present government will succeed in effectively disarming all of America, through the side-doors of the Second Amendment.
    Sadly, also, now that I have responded to your comment, my name, if not already on the list, will probably be added to the ‘list of owners,’ to confiscate from. Should be an interesting day when that comes to pass.
    In our Messiah, Jesus the Christ, ‘Strong Winds, and Smooth Waters.’
    Arley Steinhour USN (Retired)

  • DK the Pontificator

    Might I remind all of you that back when the Brady Bill was passed, there was a certain sheriff, Richard Mack, of Maricopa County, Arizona [Phoenix], pretty much told the government to “stick it” and that he wasnt’ enforcing this law. The sheriffs of the United States know that to disarm the citizenry means that their already thin deputy force is going to be stretched to the limit. This is why they want everyone to have guns! Then there’s Kennesaw, Georgia … after a city ordinance was passed requiring every homeowner to have a gun, burglaries dropped 85%. Again, this democratic ideology has been dreaming. Despite what Eric Holder or anyone else would have you think, you have a natural God-given right to self preservation. The reason Mexico has so many drug problems is because of government corruption and a United States population that is dumbed down and occupied with video games and Hollywood. If Eric Holder wanted to do something useful, he would order troops to the borders, fully armed and ready to take out any person entering the border that is in possession of a rucksack or any other drug transport device. Mexican federales are already shooting at our troops patrolling the Texas border. They are running cover for the drug mules entering this country across the Rio Grande River. I have it on first hand authority from someone who’s been there and seen it with his own eyes!
    I also seriously down that the Texas Legislature, which is now in the process of granting college students the right to carry loaded firearms on campus, is going to tolerate Eric Holder’s behavior either. The last Civil War was caused because of a major incursion into States’ Rights. Those who are ignorant of history are condemned to repeat it. Our own returning troops have more of a conscience than you think. These troops understand that “We the People” are who they swore an oath to protect. If they are ordered to “sweep” America, you will see major desertions and major “eliminations” of leadership in domestic military “units” as soldiers who love this country are going to ignore direct orders to fire upon their own citizens and take out their commanding officers instead. I was in the military … I know how these men and women think. You are better off at this point deluging your STATE representatives and U.S. Congresspeople and Senators with emails and letters, calling for the impeachment and removal of anyone currently in office that seeks to dilute the powers granted to the States by the 10th Amendment. This is the first set of events that led up to the catalyst that caused the first Civil War. Stop whining and start doing if you feel scared. This is your government … “Ye shall know them by their fruits”. After the bailout, the tax debt scandals by current cabinet members and the lack of “going after the bad guy” which Obama bin Laden said he would do if elected, it’s clear that the “change” we voted for … is not change for the better. This kind of rationale is what gets governments into trouble. YOUR VOICE IS YOUR STATE GOVERNMENT! USE IT!

    • Roxanne

      I totally agree with you. I hope those people that voted for obama are happy because we are losing our right fast and furious. God help us.

    • Ted Harris

      Federal Law prevents useof our Military at the Borders!

      We need to get this law repealed, and then use the military to stop the Criminals!

      But then the druggies will need to be stopped?

      Ted Harris

      • harold

        hey Ted if you are referying to posi comtastos then you are miss informed it has already been repealed they and the local law inforcemenmt as well as the feds all fall under Fema control and will be dispursed in side our boardes but not against the drug dealers but against the american citizens, esspecially the ones that stand up for freedom and the constitution.

      • J. Day

        I think that the US side of the border should be a 1/4 mile wide buffer the length of the border. Fence it off and make the whole thing a military base. That kills three birds with one stone. The military now protects the border, (ever get too close to a military base, people with guns on you quick), no more guns, drugs or people would be crossing the border, and the military can practice following people at night on the idiots that do dare to enter the base zone and perhaps get some moving target practice on the ones foolish enough to shoot at them as they do to the border patrol officers (Sniper Practice Range).
        The US having an open border with a relatively poor country such as Mexico is much the same as opening a new department store and leaving the doors wide open all night with nobody there to watch it. Not long and there is no merchandise left.
        The US is Mexico’s cookie jar. They take the cookies and then the cookies go to Mexico and we are left with crumbs in the bottom of the jar (Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, California). We need to place the lid on the cookie jar to protect our cookies. It won’t be long and the place to have the most rights is going to be prison. Baby step after baby step our rights are being trampled. We need some Conservative leadership with the guts to stand up to the liberals steering the US in the direction of socialism. My Great Grandparents moved from Czechoslovakia to get away from the socialist government, I don’t want my children to feel they have to leave this country for the same reason.
        Point is un-Constitutional laws are being pushed through while there is a favorable vote count in the legislative branch.
        The government of this country was designed to protect our rights, not to infringe on or take them away. Our government is going to tax us into the poor house (which will not be poor enough to receive assistance) and then make it easier for criminals to take what is left.

  • bullwhip

    better wake up !!! people !!!
    obama is going to go through the back door to take guns away, he is going to do it through the u.n. (watch) !!

    • Aman

      Correct! But will you sit by and watch? Or will you REVOLT!

      • bullwhip

        what will you do ??

      • Aman

        In a word, I will Revolt! It may even cost me my life! But like many heros before us e.g. Washington and his soldiers and countless others, I will continue the effort. This country we call the United States is blessed by God! It is, and has always been the best country in the world. Obama bin Bidens slur against the good people of Pennsylvania regarding guns and bible toting should of sent a clear message regarding his politics. In spite of that, the people have spoken and they voted for him. Remember what Franklin said as he was leaving Constitution Hall after the signing of the Declaration of Indepedance. A woman spotted him and asked what form of Government do we have, a monocracy or a republic? Franklin’s reply, ” Madam, I am happy to tell you that we have a republic, if you can keep it!” I would highly encourage you to watch a film called the Crossing. It’s about Washington’s war effort. Learn it! study it! discuss it! Try and analysis why those tired, out numbered, hungery, under supplied, frost bitten, sick injured young men, shared Washington’s passion to defeat the British. Note the many refereces Washington makes to God! I’ll conclude by saying this; If Washington didn’t win Trenton and defeat the Hessians we wouldn’t today be the United States of America! That miracle by the way occurred on Christmas Day 1776!

  • bullwhip

    those who trade their guns for plows will plow for those who dont !!!!!!
    nuff said !!!!!

  • Frank

    The Obama administration better be real careful on how far they push the American people. If you think Timothy McVeigh acted alone then you better re-think. The OK city bombing was payback for Waco which most American’s are not aware of the severity of. They used an Army tank against civilians and they used CS riot gas inside a building which violates the Geneva convention for inhumane usage of a chemical. It is high flamable and is what burned those men, women and yes – many little children alive. McVeigh is just the pinhead of the iceburg.

  • http://www.trhshopspot.com UnklFungus

    I am so sick of the criminal way in which these laws get passed. They don’t have the balls to do it out in the open, so they have to sneak this stuff in.

    This is the actions of cowards and thieves, not real citizens.

    • TripleTap

      How about we send a united request for the following:

      A Common Sense Approach to Proposing Legislation

      In the interest of Free Speech and an informed electorate I request the following:
      a. Any and all bills proposed for consideration and passage by the Congress (HoR and Senate) must be proposed with full disclosure.
      b. The proposed legislation will be coordinated (meaning must be completely read and understood by each elected member of the Congress).
      c. Upon completing coordination the proposed legislation will be reviewed by the judiciary (Supreme Court) for constitutionality before being voted upon for passage by the Congress. If it fails constitutionality, the reason for being declared unconstitutional will be published for public record and the proposed legislation becomes “dead” and must be rewritten to achieve constitutionality.
      d. Once declared constitutional by the Supreme Court, no appeals will be allowed and it becomes the Law of the Land upon passage.
      e. In addition, after attaining compliance status of “Constitutional” a period 90 days must be allowed for review by the electorate to allow comments of support/non support from the electorate to their elected officials. To accommodate this, the legislation must be written so the citizenry can understand its need and effect on current situations/events.
      f. There will be only one exemption to this, legislation required to prevent a clear and present danger to the Constitution of the United States or the United States of America. A full congressional session must be called with 80 percent approval to proceed and cannot be vetoed by the President. When the clear and present danger is declared over (requires 80 percent full congressional approval), the related legislation becomes null and void and cannot be reinstituted without 80 percent approval of the congress.
      Benefits:
      a. Junk legislation will be prevented and clear and concise legislation allowed to pass.
      b. The electorate will be given more say in legislation.
      c. Constitutionality will more readily be achieved and prevent protracted and expensive appeals.
      d. The Supremes will perform what their jobs are intended to do – enforce the constitution.
      e. The Executive branch and administration will be prevented from making snap decisions such as the recent stimulus bill which went unread by any of the electorate who passed it.
      f. The elected representatives will be held more responsible to their electorate and less influenced by lobbyists or special interest groups allowing for a clearer view of what the people want and expect.
      g. Will prevent electorate “power plays” to pass last minute legislation and ensure constitutionality.
      Cons:
      a. Will take longer to pass legislation.
      b. Will tie up the Supreme Court.

      • Ted Harris

        Sorry! Good Thought, However . . .

        The costitution allows for placing ‘No restrictions’ on the

        Congress!

        I suggest: Print yourself a copy of the “US Constitution”

        put in a nice folder, and keep beside/handy to one’s Workplace;

        Read periodically/often; you may? not memorize, but one will ‘remember’, and then you can look it up!

        Ted Harris

      • David Rains

        Ted,

        The Constitution places a great many restrictions on the Congress in that it only grants them certain, specific powers. These powers are relatively few, but the Constitution has been ignored now for almost 50 years.

        For example, no where in the Constitution will you find where Congress is granted the authority to fund or have anything to do with education, health care, or energy. Nor do they have the power to tell you what size toilet tank you will have, but they do. That really is a law, by the way.

        The Constitution and rule of law in this country is basically dead.

    • http://BuckeyeExpress Lady Impact Ohio

      Unkl Fungus:

      Too bad you didn’t see my protest sign at the Toledo Tea Party:

      “PILLAGE & PLUNDER. AT LEAST THE VIKINGS DID IT IN THE OPEN!

  • James Kosty

    The entire range of audacity displayed by the “Barack Obama Experience” is almost surreal in it’s scope and sheer insanity.
    Whatever semblance of reason existed that made America great has taken leave of the masses, either by the most insidious and patient plot ever foisted on a society, or just by defualt as the moral relativism and abandonment of God pervades every aspect of human life here today.
    Guns do not kill on their own – the truthful and simple argument. And according to any liberal, a gun with a black plastic stock on it or a high – tech appearance, even if only capable of one shot a minute is an “assualt weapon”. These self – appointed gun experts judge the danger by the appearance of the weapon, and if it looks like what “THE MEDIA wants everyone to assume is a killing machine, then by gooly, that’s what makes them intrinsically evil. Nevermind that humans, left to their own devices, will be inherently evil and resort to the use of knives, sticks, stones, baseball bats, chairs, clubs, ball point pens, vehicles, poisoning, and beating, choking, etc. through use of the hands, ad infinitum, in man’s continuing effort to be the assmunches we can be. No legislation, aside from laws which appropriately punish the criminals, will negate human nature.

  • ELLIS

    GUNS DO NOT KILL PEOPLE DO!!!! CARS DO NOT KILL THE DRIVERS DO!!! IF THE COMMIE LEADERS WANT GUNS COLLECTED THEN START BY TURNING IN THERE CARS & DRIVERS LICEINCES ALONG WITH THERE ARMED ESCORTS.(PRESIDENT, ATTORY GEN.,ETC)

    • Joy

      By banning our guns each and every legislator who votes for any gun ban/gun control/ ammo control law will be responsible for the murders of innocent people by armed thugs. I wonder if these gun-banners even care about that. They certainly do not listen to the citizens they are supposed to represent. Guns don’t kill people, anti-gun government officials do.

    • http://donthaveone Mark

      The government needs to back away from this and leave it be, lest they get involved and make a total mess of it like they have with our school system. Yeah, thats right, the school system. They have dicked it up so much that no one can get a good education, because they are busy protecting the bully who mouths off to the the teachers and administrators, and they are too afraid to confront him lest they be labeled a racist and loose their job. Our schools are a joke, and its because the government runs them with this bull crap political correctness. Stay out of the gun control thing government, your out of your league.

  • Charles B

    I had a friend who was a security guard at a building in Dallas. One night a car pulled into their parking lot. He went out to find out first if they needed help and then to inform them that they could not park there overnight. He was shot and killed as he approached them. (He was not carrying a gun as he did not perceive that it was any more than someone having car trouble.)

  • http://www.myspace.com/1proud_american Cole

    I will say again what I and millions of others said during the 70′s when the government was trying this same crap. If we do not stand together, we will hang separately.

    THEY CAN HAVE MY GUN WHEN THEY PRY MY COLD DEAD FINGERS FROM AROUND IT!!!!!

    • Stephen M

      Very good point.Considering that is exactly what happened to 20million Russians and 8 million Jews. By the way the Muslims killed over 300 million in a span of 1400 years.

  • TED

    90% of TRACEABLE guns found in Mexico are found to have origionated in the U.S.?? The gummint claims they were “purchased” at gun shows and from Licensed dealers but anyone that has bought a gun in the last 15 years knows that this claim is just so much barnyard commodity! I fill out about the same amount of paper work to buy a gun as I did to enlist in the military! This is required by the BATFE and the paper is in their files. Makes me wonder how many of those “traceable” firearms were STOLEN NORTH OF THE BORDER!

    • David Rains

      Ted,

      90% of the guns used by the Mexican cartels do not come from America. That is another lie perpetuated by the media and this administration.

      People from the BATF testified under oath just the other day that 90% of the guns they traced at the Mexican government’s request came from the US; however, they were only asked to trace around 17% of the guns recovered. The rest so obviously did not come from the US that no trace was asked for them. Therefore, aroiund 83% of the guns do not come from the US.

      Think about it a moment. The cartels’ weapons of choice are machine guns, sub machine guns, RPG’s, and hand grenades. Obviously they are not buying these weapons from legitimate gun dealers along the Mexican border.

      • Mark

        No, actually many of the Mexican gang members are or were members of the Mexican military and they simply STOLE the full autos, 60 mm mortars and RPG’s from the military depots that they worked with. Just like in the former USSR when it came time the soldiers took their toys home with them. I suspect many in our military will be handing out SAM missiles to their neighborhood buddies if this crap keeps up…

      • J. Day

        I believe it would be more like 15% because 90% of the 17% checked is a hair over 15%. that means 85% of the guns were most likely from somewhere other than the US. They only checked 17% because they were ALL thought to be US guns. Not like 2% is a big deal. Also how are the guns untraceable? Are the numbers ground off? Seems like the true facts of this Mexico gun story are being distorted beyond belief to make the problem seem so bad that something needs to be done fast much like the “stimulus bill” and the other bills being crammed through in hurry before people have a chance to read or even debate them. Seems like the current administration is making drastic and fast “CHANGEs” in “HOPEs” that they will not have to worry about losing the next elections. The future of this country will be set in a downhill slide with no way to get rid of the “CHANGEs” made in 4 short years. The liberals will ram as much garbage through and Obama will sign all of them. All that is being proposed and enacted NOW is going to make the next administrations job so difficult I don’t think any sane person would want to be president after the Obama administration is done. How could anyone repair the damages that will surely be done to our constitutional freedoms and liberties. Like others have mentioned, it starts with making ammunition harder to obtain,then goes to taking away gun rights, and ends with a government taking over every single aspect of our lives. Any person who votes for a person who wants to infringe on any right guaranteed by the Consititution ot he Unites States cannot complain when the government comes knocking to take away their guns. Believe me I know a few who voted for Obama and now are complaining about what is going on. Duh, you were warned many times and didn’t listen. We told you so.
        No matter what any politician says, gun rights are not taken away to prevent crime, they are taken away to remove the peoples right to protect themselves from any enemy, foreign or domestic, which includes a government which strays from the principles of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
        Look at how the words are capitalized in Constitution and Bill of Rights. They are capitalized for good reason. That’s not an earthquake people, that’s the Founding Fathers spinning tornadoes in their graves.

  • Aman

    This is just one man’s opinion but it’s well thoughtout and extremely plausible. These weird gun laws Holder and Obama are looking to enact is a plot against white people to encourage genocide by proxy and I will prove it. By disarmming white America and it’s legal gun owners affords the opportunity for criminals who are non white to commit murder against unarmmed white Americans. After all, could you ever imagin something as stupid as a Hate Crime Law! This law is stacked against white people and thereby allows for sever punishment and civil penalties. Ask yourself if that makes any sense. Because black on black crime is not in proportion to white on black crime, the disarmming of legal gun owners ( mostly white I’m guessing) is a way to level the playing field and some! Still not convinced…What about the death penalty??? Black supporters constantly argue that more blacks are executed than whites and that’s racist! So the solution, grant life to blacks and execute whites more.

  • George d.o.b. 1926

    THE SOLUTION IS FOR THE GOVERNMENT TO USE TARP MONEY TO FURNISH ALL LAW ABIDING CITIZENS (IF THEY SO DESIRE) WITH AN ASSAULT WEAPON. THAT WAY THERE WON’T BE ANY LEFT TO SEND ANYWHERE!!

  • Lonnie Jones

    Since police can not respond to emergencies very fast, having weapons to protect a persons life and property is paramont. A base ball bat is not protection against someone probably high on drugs and carrying a gun or knife. Semi automatic guns are not assault weapons. Fully automatic weapons are not available to citizens of the US.

    • http://BuckeyeExpress Lady Impact Ohio

      I gave a talk on NRA & 2nd amend rights at Toledo Tea Party. My last comment was this:
      “When you hear an intruder, in your home, in the middle of the night: remember this. A police cruiser travels TOPS at 80mph. And THAT’S on the expressway. A BULLET travels at 800 mph. WHICH ONE DO YOU WANT TO BE YOUR FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE? WAITING FOR THE COPS COULD TAKE THE REST OF YOUR LIFE.

      • Glenn

        As I was reading your comment a police cruiser flew past our house at over 100 mph, If I had had a gun, I wouldn’t have been able to get a shot off.

        Guns are not going to protect you from the US government and Federal army.

        You cannot shoot a government any more than you can shoot a corporation.

        ARMS are more than just guns. To effectively fulfill the Founders’ ideas of government-as-servant rather than government-as-master, we would need weaponry that can defeat a satellite network, tanks, Remotely Operated Vehicles with guns, SWAT teams in armor, missiles, artillery.

        The USA and its federal army can blot you from the map regardless of how many guns you have. To beat a government like the US Federal government, you have to know something about Law. And use it.

        Marksmanship alone will not be sufficient to protect the Constitution. And the police are not there to uphold the Law but to “preserve order”. Order is exactly what we need less of.

        That said I do not oppose anyone trying to stockpile enough guns and ammo to at least try to make a show of resistance when the time comes.

        What’s your target circle look like when the tanks come rolling down our streets, manned by some foreign nationals the government has coerced into acting on its behalf to repress Citizen resistance to tyranny?

        We are not going to make it if our big move is to argue amongst ourselves while we wait for the inevitable.

        It would make more sense to stockpile water and food and start teaching each other what we need to stop being treated as chattel.

      • http://BuckeyeExpress Lady Impact Ohio

        Glenn, your reply was excellent and I totally concur. However, for the purposes of the Toledo Tea Party, I was speaking more in the line of personal protection in my home that was not the US govt. I own a handgun. That’s it. I do realize that the Feds or mercenaries can wipe us all out easily. And I’m wondering how many military or cops would go after average citizens, even if ordered. Personally, I would rather die hastily in a fire-fight like those at the Alamo than be holed up somewhere with food & water that wouldn’t probably last indefinitely. Plus, they’d cut all communication. No cell phones, no land-line. Only other recourse would be HAM operators, and I don’t know how many are left anymore. Ammo is nowhere to be found where I live. At least .38 & 357. And very little of anything else.

      • Mark

        Let’s see Glenn, if it comes down to it, I can take out a tank, laser guided missile and/or an Apache helicopter with a single shot .22 pistol. First I find out WHO the operators of these devices are and then I wait and silently manage to sneak up and put that single .22 in between their eyeballs effectively stopping the use of the Apache helicopter, tank or laser guided missile at least until someone else is trained to use them. Ever hear of the liberator .45? Do some research. It was a piece of crap stamped out sheet metal single shot with a few extra rounds in the grip that could be manually loaded into it that was dropped to resistance fighters in WWII. er I mean “terrorists” in WWII… after all that is what freedom fighters are supposedly now days. THEY can’t win against a populace that is willing to toss a bottle of styrofoam mixed with gasoline into bed with them or stick them to a post with a pitchfork. THEY just can’t win. I don’t give an F how sophisticated their toys are.

      • Glenn

        You may not be able to buy ammo where you live, but there is a law library at the courthouse.

        Since you are presumed to know the law, it might be worth knowing it.

        Just like it’s probably worth having reloading equipment and knowing how to use it too, if you are a gun dude.

        Your knowledge and skills can’t ever be taken. But don’t assume that the government can be brought to heel with mere armaments.

        Useful as they may be, it takes more than guns to do what the 2nd amendment implies is expected of an armed citizenry, to overthrow our tyrannical government, when we so choose.

    • Alex Eden

      Semi automatic guns are not assault weapons.

      Holder and other appointees redefine everything a few times a day to confuse and weaken the opposition…

      They will present it as if they are trying to ban private possession of ICBMs, and then Pelosi will distribute a 1,000 pages bill just 3 or 4 hours before voting so that nobody can thoroughly read and analyze it, and will get this bill passed that will ban all firearms and will require a license to operate a nail gun (yes, the ones from lowes or home depot).

      So, don’t trust buzzwords and labels – read the fine print.

      Depending on what they were smoking that morning, Holder and likes will define assault weapon as any high-power rifle, and high-power will be defined as anything higher than .22 or faster than 800 feet per second, and thus all shot-guns will be defined as assault weapons… Convoluted logic if any, but that’s how it seems they sneak those stupid laws… Look at the stimulus and tarp bills – full of confusing definitions and ambiguities and were given to congressmen like a night before the voting.

    • Robin

      No, our police are tied up making their qoutas for traffic enforcement, so they cannot be bothered to respond as quickly to complete those tasks that don’t bring in new revenues to their departments. The name of the game is now selective enforcement, used to generate revenues, when it was once up on a time, used as a deterrent.

      • Lonnie Jones

        I remember a story in a news paper about an emergency called into a police department.
        It seems that a man, hearing some noise at his garage door, called the police dept. and reported it. The dispatcher asked if he was in immediate danger. The man repied that he wan’t at that moment but wanted the men arrested.
        The dispatcher said all units were busy at that time but they would have a unit there in about a half hour.
        In about 5 minutes, the man called back and told the dispatcher to disregard his last call that he had shot the intruders.
        In about 5 minutes about 8 police uits were at his place and the intruders were arrested.
        A sergeant said that he thought the homeowner had said he shot them.
        The homeowner replied he thought that they had said that they would take at least a half hour to get somebody there.

        Police can usually get some place if they want to.

      • AC

        Robin, Lonnie and whoever reads this… if you don’t already know, law enforcement and the courts make sure that legal citizens show up in traffic court and/or pay their (often revenue enhancing) fines, but allow [many] illegal aliens to get multiple traffic citations and never show up, not pay their fines, and are never arrested/prosecuted. What’s up with that?!!!

  • Canadian

    I’m not a gun owner, but guns have been in our family for more than a 100 years, our government has taken our freedom away, our government made it law that we had to register all guns and certain guns are now illegal, even if these guns were past down from generation to generation, this was all done to combat crime, the only thing it has done is hurt the law abiding gun owners and the tax payers, costing us millions and billions of dollars for a law that doesn’t work, this law hasen’t changed guns on our streets, what it has done is taken our Canadian freedoms away and taken more money out of our pocket in waste, crime can be stopped with tough laws against criminals and even youth offenders, stop slapping criminals on the wrist and start giving tough penalties to the problem makers.

    Canadian EH!!

  • Mark

    Why I Carry a Gun
    • I don’t carry a gun to kill people. I carry a gun to keep from being killed.
    • I don’t carry a gun to scare people. I carry a gun because sometimes this world can be a scary place.
    • I don’t carry a gun because I’m paranoid. I carry a gun because there are real threats in the world.
    • I don’t carry a gun because I’m evil. I carry a gun because I have lived long enough to see the evil in the world.
    • I don’t carry a gun because I hate the government. I carry a gun because I understand the limitations of government.
    • I don’t carry a gun because I’m angry. I carry a gun so that I don’t have to spend the rest of my life hating myself for failing to be prepared.
    • I don’t carry a gun because I want to shoot someone. I carry a gun because I want to die at a ripe old age in my bed, and not on a sidewalk somewhere tomorrow afternoon.
    • I don’t carry a gun to make me feel like a man. I carry a gun because men know how to take care of themselves and the ones they love.
    • I don’t carry a gun because I feel inadequate. I carry a gun because unarmed and facing three armed thugs, I am inadequate.
    • I don’t carry a gun because I love it. I carry a gun because I love life and the people who make it meaningful to me.
    • And last but not least, I carry a gun because I may have to USE IT to defend my life, liberty and property from those who swore an oath to defend my life libery and property. That is GOVERNMENT “officials”. Just TRY to take my guns. And don’t expect your fancy clown suit to be a deterrent to my righteous response. I declare that any person who tries to disarm me is my enemy and will be treated as such.

    • Aman

      Well done Mark. I share your belief. Guess this means we’re on the terrorist watch list. But for some funny reason I feel extremely patriotic and committed to the founding fathers and to all those who served in the name of AMERICA! See you on the battle field!

      Aman

      • Ted Harris

        Mark, I agree Almost totally w/ your Statement of Rights;

        Where I am not in total agreement:

        On or about Feb 14, 2001, @3:30am I was awakened from sleep by an Armed Intruder;

        I was really “handicaped” at time as I had just had surgery to “pin my foot to my leg bone, and could not yet put weight upon that foot/leg.

        Fortunately we (myself & my wife) did everything right in the next few minutes!

        While He got away w/ our vehicle, I did shoot him thru windshield, missing his heart by less than 3inches (windshield deflected bullet).

        Suppose I could not have protected us?

        Would he have rapped my wife, as I watched helplessly?

        Would he have killed us?

        I was an early signup when Az allowed ‘Concealed Carry’

        and I carry a 40cal autoloading SigSauer,ready & willing to use on an instant’s warning!

        Thanks for the great Words!
        Ted Harris

      • Mark

        So now “they” know what you have and what you carry. That is the major purpose for concealed carry permits. It is back door gun and gun owner registration. Funny, THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED, sounds infringed to me if I have to go ask a “public servant” for permission to carry a firearm.

      • Mark

        When the time comes we will know we have to do what we have to do. If the tree of liberty has to be watered with my blood, so be it. However, the TYRANTS can expect some of their blood to be watering it also. My wife won’t be the only widow when that night is over. That is IF she ends up a widow and I don’t just get to show “them” what a real fight is all about. THEY MAKE ME WANT TO VOMIT. They think being “patriotic” is getting on your knees and begging for your rights from them. “They” can kiss my *ss!

      • Tritonal

        Molon Labe!

    • JHL707

      Mark, please don’t take my statement the wrong way, I agree 110% with you!
      I just pray that you, as well as others that share your view, including myself, have the balls in reality to defend what you believe in when the SWAT team breaks down your door at 3 AM, while you are asleep, pointing 5 laser dots from their tactical rifles at your chest demanding your single pistol!

      • Mark

        They better start with me first. Because if they start somewhere else I’m going hunting…

      • Tritonal

        Varmints!

    • http://donthaveone Mark

      Thank you Mark, from another Mark, this statement is right on the Mark. Very truthfully and factually stated.

  • http://tthurman@fujihuntus.com Teresa Thurman

    I have a comment…..I think everyone should check out insight training. If you are truly a believer in protecting the American Way as much as I am you will truly be amazed at this.

    • Ernie

      Teresa,

      If you are talking about Insight, the training facility, I completely agree with you. For those who have no other means of gaining firearm and self-defence training, this is a great place to go to get it.

      • Mark

        That is “Front Sight” training academy.

      • Ernie

        Thanks, Mark. I’d hate to see anyone miss out because of my flub.
        My best to ya-
        Ernie

  • https://wbfrank9.wordpress.com/ wb frank

    BhO is living up to His name (aka Barry Soetoro) the Messiah… He knows best what the common man needs (aka you)!
    A little history here

    A LITTLE GUN HISTORY

    In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From 1929 to 1953,
    about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded
    up and exterminated.

    In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million
    Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated

    Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of
    13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were
    rounded up and exterminated.

    China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million
    political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and
    exterminated

    Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000
    Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

    Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979, 300,000
    Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

    Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million
    educated people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

    Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century
    because of gun control: 56 million.

    It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by new
    law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their own
    Government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million
    dollars. The first year results are now in:

    Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent.

    Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent.

    Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!

    In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300
    percent. Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the
    criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns!

    While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady decrease in armed
    robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past
    12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.

    There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the
    elderly. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public
    safety has decreased, after such monumental effort, and expense was
    expended in successfully ridding Australian society of guns. The
    Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it..

    You won’t see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians
    disseminating this information.

    Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes,
    gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding citizens.

    Take note my fellow Americans, before it’s too late!

    The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind
    them of this history lesson.

    With guns, we are citizens. Without them, we are subjects.

    SWITZERLAND ISSUES EVERY HOUSEHOLD A FULLY-AUTOMATIC RIFLE.

    SWITZERLAND ‘S GOVERNMENT TRAINS EVERY ADULT THEY ISSUE A FULLY-AUTOMATIC RIFLE.

    SWITZERLAND HAS THE LOWEST GUN RELATED CRIME RATE OF ANY CIVILIZED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.

    Am I realistically thinking that the Obama Regime is thinking like Hitler, Mussolini, Soviet Union totalitarian? Nah!
    Let the Revolution begin!
    If we get rid of ALL guns, including the criminal, then I will carry a sword.

    • Roger Daines

      Dear WB Frank:

      The information you have submitted is very compelling and interesting. I would like to have the source information for those facts. Do you have it? Thanks in advance.

      Roger

      • Ernie

        Hi, Roger. It is good to verify information. Wb Frank IS accurate with his history. Why don’t you do some reading of your own. It’s been my experience that people value knowledge when they have had to work hard to earn it. And, “Learning can be Fun!”

      • AC

        I see both Roger and Ernie’s points… you need to include evidence and/or sources for any so called historical facts to prove your info. is legitimate, and you also should do research to disprove what someone else claims is true, not just make some inference to discredit them… [which is a tactic liberals have used so often, it makes them easier to spot].

    • Barbara Haring

      Wow! This is incredible. I’m saving this for future reference. I think everyone should, and if the rogue power in Washington decides to go forward with eroding our gun rights, we should flood our Senators and Representatives with reams of paper containing this valuable information.

      • Ernie

        Why give Congress reams of paper to read. They don’t read legislation that increases our debt by $trillions. What makes you think they would read anything a citizen sends them. Have you ever written to your Congressman/woman and received anything other than a polite, useless form letter in return?

    • Lonnie Jones

      This should shoud be sent to every newspaper, radio station, TV station and everybody who is in government. The media will ignore it as will every left wing bleeding heart liberal, but a few might see that gun control is not a good idea. We have too much gun control now. We have enough laws to control where it is needed.

      LJ

    • rpm2hi

      These statistics are very true. However there is now a whole generation of people educated in public (in many cases, leftist-propaganda) schools who can vote (and did, for Obama) who don’t know these details or understand the significance of them.

      I wish I knew the answer for educating the younger, on-the-fence-”progressive” voters and taxpayers of this country. Their actions demonstrate that they don’t really understand the importance of what this country was founded on, and what they are in many cases, willing to surrender to the socio-elitist manipulators who seek to control them.

      People have died and are dying to protect our liberties. Yet ironically, a recent majority of our population, who live within our protected boundries, were willing to silently surrender those same rights with just a pencil-blacked oval or a punch-pin.

      Numbers count when it comes to stopping the madness. Education counts in preventing it.

      • D.C.

        The reason our younger generation doesn’t understand what this country is founded on, is because they don’t teach American History in the classes like they did whey I was a kid. Most of what they teach in k-12 is “World History.” You can thank the Department of Education for that. More govt., less education.

    • Robin

      Sword, Crossbow and Compound bow, I can make my arrows myself if need be, and you are right. Every country that has disarmed its populace, only infringes upon the law abiding individuals, because those owned by the Criminals they cannot track, cannot control, and crime does escalate.

      Come and TAKE it, and as EM and KC said above, it will be with the pointy end first, They better, beyond a shadow of a doubt, have a reason to be on my property, that is NOT ABOUT collecting my legally purchased firearms and ammo, and my RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS, before they come demand anything from me period.

      Former Virginia Hillbilly, converted to a die hard Texan thank you very much :o )

      • Ernie

        Sometimes I wonder if they really WANT to control criminals. If they were successful at it, there would be no need of lawyers, laws and lawmakers. Think about it.

    • Duane

      I studied WWII and you are absolutely correct. Take away our right to defend and we are nothing but helpless.

    • Joy

      They’re out to destroy both the First and Second Amendments which will destroy the Constitution and any semblance of a Republic that we still have left.
      But they probably haven’t read much history or they’d know that what really started the American Revolution was when the British set out to confiscate the guns and ammunition in Lexington and Concord. If you’re old enough to remember when real American history was taught in schools instead of revisionist garbage, you probably learned this poem:
      “By the rude bridge that arched the flood,
      Their flag to April’s breeze unfurled,
      Here once the embattled farmers stood
      And fired the shot heard ’round the world”
      They may be getting themselves into more trouble then they thought possible, just like the British did. But it will all depend on us now as it did on those farmers then.

    • http://donthaveone Mark

      Exactly, and some idiot wrote on one of these other threads, that due to attrition the guns in the criminals hands would disappear in a few years!. Right. Gun control means only the criminals will have guns, and our enemies. When asked why they didnt attack the mainland when they attacked Pearl Harbor, their leading military generals cited that it would have been suicide, because our population was armed. Take that away, and were in real trouble, both from abroad and from the criminals allready here. I dont own a gun, but I fully support the 2nd amendment right to bear arms, and it must never be tampered with, and if Barry wants to tamper with it, someone needs to tamper with his brain.

  • KC

    They are NOT getting mine…even if they say that I will be a criminal if I don’t turn them in…if they are so brave all I have to say is…..COME and GET THEM!

    • EM

      They can have my guns. I give them the bullets first. pointy end first.

      • CAC

        That’s the type of responce that causes the things like gun control legislators are looking for to back up there cause!! Think before you speak (type)

      • http://Yahoo Bob

        *I feel the same way — ya want them, ya gotta take them, but not without a fight. I really don’t give a tinkers damn what the slease politicians think about what I say, or how I say it. It is called the 1st amendment. If they don’t like it, so be it. They are going to hear a lot more of it from many americans from all over the country.

      • harold

        dont worry if they take your guns,in wwII there was a very effective response to this it was called the butter knife bergade. this is how it worked a gruop would go out with a single butter knife and the first chance they got to imbed the kife in the enemy they would take his gun and ammo and the Butter knife. the knife would be given to the next man and the process started all over with yhe only eception was the had armed cover. then over ,and over and over agaign until all had weapons and ammo as well as a butter knife. the only plausible defennce agianst tatic was to sen there troops out unarmed, what give up there gun I dont think so. So you see as hard as it is to emagine of us lossing our rights to own arms it will be but a mear inconvince but for awhile and they would have exposed themselves for what they truley are then they can be tried for high treason

    • Ernie

      KC and EM,

      CAC is kinda right, but I understand exactly how you feel. Take some comfort in the fact that there are many in the Armed Forces and in Law Enforcement who take their oaths to protect the Constitution from all enemies both foreign AND domestic (emphasis added) very seriously, and will refuse to disarm you, but instead stand shoulder-to-shoulder with you to protect your rights. Just remember there are patriots all around you who have not yet declared themselves. There’s a lot to be said for the element of surprise. In a way, we are all tipping our hands here.

  • Robin from Indiana

    Charlton Heston must be spinning in his grave! Taking our protection away from us in just plain insane! Personally, I have never liked guns, but the older I get and what I see happening around me in the past few months, I am even thinking of getting a permit to own and carry a gun. How can our constitution be ignored? We cannot let our rights be so easily taken away. If our guns are banned, the only ones who have guns will be the ones who don’t obey the laws anyway!

    • David

      Look at every country that has disarmed its people. The consequences are terrible!

      They will probably not come in the middle of the night to take your guns away, (that would cause the next revolution) but like the article mentions above; amo will be difficult to buy at first, followed by illegal in the future. So stock up on reload supplies.

      2010 needs to be the year that “we the people send a real message to DC” voting out the imbreeds of corruption.

    • Alex Eden

      You need a permit to own a gun in Indiana?!?!

      • Robin from Indiana

        No… But if you want to carry that gun concealed you do!

    • jo

      Hitler convinced his people to give up their guns and the government would protect them. And we all know what happened once the populace was disarmed–Hitler took over and dominated them at gunpoint, and the rest of Europe, too. The second amendment does not guarantee your right to have a gun to go hunting, it’s to protect against a tyrannical government. and don’t think they don’t have armed bodyguards for themselves.

      places with lots of gun control laws also have the highest crime rates (like D.C.) whereas places with the least restrictions, especially right to carry laws, have the lowest. Honestly, who’s going to try to hold up a 7-11 or a bank if anyone (or everyone) inside is armed? talk about a deterrent. and it’s the law-abiding people who suffer when gun control laws are put in place. not the criminals who will get their guns illegally anyway.

    • Ernie

      To Robin from Indiana,

      Don’t think about it too long. Time’s running out. Stop thinking and start acting. I’m not trying to be rude. I’m just trying to impress upon you the urgency of the issue. In fact, for those of you who have more guns than you could use in an all-out attack, may I suggest doing what I’m going to do? That is, give a gun away to a family member who doesn’t have one. The saying, “It’s harder to take a million guns away from a million people than it is to take away a million guns from one person,” makes sense.

    • http://donthaveone Mark

      Exactly. And those who have guns now that perpetrate crimes, most are illegal anyways. Take the rights to own guns away, and only the criminal will have them. Its a fact. Japan didnt invade our mainland when they did Pearl Harbor, because they knew we had an armed citizenry, as quoted by their military leaders. Let the world know we are un-armed, and we are in deep trouble both domestically from the internal criminals that live here, and from threats abroad. We dont want to go there, no matter what the pacifists say.

  • Buckroo

    Yup,
    the blame game.

    • jo

      lemme guess, you’d be one of the first to say everything is Bush’s fault. so who’s playing the blame game? everyone here is pointing out legitimate issues that can be traced to B.O. and his B.S.

      • Buckroo

        Ya missed my point, I’m on your side.

      • Denise Johnson

        With the responce I bet you are. Buckroo…LOLOLO

      • Duane

        Jo it’s apparent you vote party not man. Do you even bother to study the issues or just vote blindly on who is a Democrat or a Republican?

      • D.C.

        Duane, you have hit on a point that most people miss. Our current parties (both) are not doing the job that they were elected to do. There are only a small handful left in congress that actually have the American Peoples constitutional rights at heart. And this mess did not just start with the Bushes or the Clintons. It has been going on for over 100 years. So, my fellow Americans, please let’s not get caught up on which party started the mess. Let’s just get in there and clean it up. TOGETHER. BLACK, WHITE, ASIAN, INDIAN. If you love this country, we need to come together to fix it. UNITED WE STAND. DIVIDED WE FALL. LITERALLY.

      • azcIII

        Being realistic…getting enough people to vote for any particular candidate will be impossible. Remember, a majority voted for Obama when they knew NOTHING about him that they weren’t told by the MSM. The only way to clean up DC is to have a simple solution the average voter can follow without going to the trouble (sarc) of actually researching the candidates. It’s too much work for the brain-dead voters among us to do their own verification of the candidates. They just mark the ‘D’ or ‘R’, or the name they recognize.

        So…our simple, easy-to-remember message for 2010?

        THROW ALL INCUMBENTS OUT!

        Both parties have let us down (to say the least). A third party is not viable except to give the election to the liberal. It’s happened time after time, so that won’t work (much as I’d love to see a Constitution Party candidate win). Party affiliation must be disregarded at this point.

        We may already be out of time for a political solution, though I pray we are not.

      • http://donthaveone Mark

        Yep, exactly. You see, Ive got this stop sign down at the end of my street, and cars keep running it, and I want to know what Bush is going to do about it. It’s got to be his fault, I mean, everything else is.

  • DL

    Holder is a very brave man to be calling Americans cowards while he is hiding behind armed guards… Brave!!!! My opinion is he will never disarm Americans in this life without trouble. So why pick a fight unless he really wants one. But he needs to understand that this administration will be a one term only. 2010 will be real change.
    Why do they need to spread all these lies and propaganda about 90% of the guns coming from the USA? The correct information is only about 17% and no more comes from the USA. Stop lying to the great American people.

    • http://amateen@insight.rr.com ITAV

      sorry to say i told you so, this a two term president and the democrats will win again for a total of 12 years in office

      • Cheri

        You cannot say “I told you so” until it’s happened. Let’s all pray it doesn’t. Another democrat counting the chickens before they’ve hatched.

      • David

        I’m afraid you are right – this guy is in for two terms or more as free elections as we have known them may disappear. With Acorn groups reviving the dead to vote and Ohio letting the same person vote multiple times, will guarantee that Obama will stay in power… God help us!

      • Ernie

        “God help us?” God helps those who help themselves. All of these platitudes look good on paper, especially the one that suggests we present all of this shite to our Congress when they come down on us.

        You and you and you have to take the attitude of the embattled soldier; you have no expectation of living through the struggle- you’re already dead. This way you free yourselves to act without worrying about what you have to lose. Besides, what do you REALLY have if you don’t have your freedoms as guaranteed by the Constitution and Bill of Rights?

        Tyrrany takes on many forms, but tyranny is the reason that the American Revolution was fought and won by only 15% of the colonial population. Why do you think the present Administration and the majority Congress are frantically moving to enact all of this contolling leg- islation? Only a government afraid of its people wants to remove firearms from the hands of private citizens. From where do you think comes the bumper sticker, “Love your country, Fear your government?”

        The question is, are we going to let a progressive social Marxist regime destroy that for which so many of our family members have fought and died? There will be no Constitutional Republic in a little less than four years from now. We will live in another failed socialist state, one that discourages hard work for the betterment of our lives, rewarding sloth and mediocrity. We will continue to decline as a third-rate nanny state where the government decides all but when you are allowed to wipe your own nose. Worst of all, we will continue to be ruled from Washington by the same transparent puppets with silver tongues and dark souls that occupy the halls of government today.

      • Raggs

        This government has turned it’s back on God!!!!!!!! Now the only help we get from him (GOD) is on a personal level, this country is coming to an end. Obama thinks he’s God, or at least his followers do. I am in this to the end, but I’m beginning to believe they will eventually be executing objectors like ME. It is that serious!

      • http://paragonservices.org Gloria

        Not unless he can prove that he is a USA citizen which he has not yet done – the battle is not over yet regarding that issue. The only problem is that by the time the courts stop dragging their feet, so much damage will have been done by this Regime that it willl be hard, if not impossible, to reserve. I don’t believe that even those who were misguided enough the first time around to vote for this man would do it a second time. Once the courts stop dragging their feet and covering up and can no longer hold out against the American public, it should be all over but the crying. Let’s hope that there is still a semblemce of country left and that it has not been turned over to the “terrorists” – no – not Napolitano’s AMERICAN terrorists, the real terrorists, whom the administration is so averse to calling by their true name. As long as there are patriots in this country willing to risk their all, there is a fighting chance.
        as

      • Josuha Longdong

        Cheri…this so called Presidet of yours needs a telepromter to pee! He is a socialisst pig and is ruining this nation by sucking arse with Chavez, Iran, North Korea and the rest of them…..wake up and smell the coffee sweetie!

      • Cheri

        I just replied to ITAV who voted this guy in…..I ABSOLUTELY did not vote this guy in and never would. I agree with you. Read my reply a little closer please.

      • http://www Chuck

        ITAV, you had better hope you are wrong because you will suffer the consequences right along with the rest of us. This administration, although they appear very sympathetic to the common man, wants to lull all of us into a false sense of security. They are not lowering the tax boom on us at the present time so that they can form this false sense of security. Do not look at what they say but what they are doing. Before you know it they will have passed legislation like Card Check, The Fairness Act, Cap and Trade, and a whole host of other legislation that will take away our freedoms little by little until we are no longer free to have a voice.

      • Richard

        No he is not a socalist but a Marxist

      • https://wbfrank9.wordpress.com/ wb frank

        then we are ALL doomed!
        Read my bog on the history of gun control…

      • greg

        you are wrong. We are not doomed! Those who come after guns in the states will meet armed citizens protecting their rights.There will be bloodshed.Armed revolution will occur and they know it.Always remember it is better to die free than live a slave.

      • Carolyn

        Don’t plan on another election; plans are being made for Martial Law and there will then be no more elections.
        People still get duped by the pretty speeches of the politicians that prove in the end to be more lies.!!!
        Change you will get but it isn’t the change you expected. Freedom will be history. When did that ever become the desire of a free people?

      • WILD BILL from ALASKA

        The only terms that the socialists in congress after 2010 and obama’s administration after 2012 will be serving are prison sentences for treason.When taking the oath of office these people swore on a bible to ” to preserve,protect and defend the constitution of the United States of America”.And,they ALL lied.

      • http://boblivingston Istillthink

        I have been wondering for a very long, time.
        why these treasonus DOGS have not all been tried and hanged in the public square.
        The amoral leftist have been in charge for a long time now, starting with Warren court.
        They have been using the Constitution to futher their Leftist agenda.
        The American people are afraid to bring these thugs to trail for treason. We are told it would be unconstitutional. What a laugh!
        They don’t want to punish these REDS.
        Thanks to the ACLU.

        Bill Ayers should have been tried and fried. But that did not happen because of a technicallity in the LAW.
        So, what do we do now?
        Join the Rsistance (The underground) and take back our Govt?
        I sincerely hope that there is an undergound.
        But none will know. Only a few. As there is no safety in numbers when it comes to doing this.
        Remember the French Resistance! WWII, And the German Resistance.
        In Germany many of these brave souls and their families met with the most terrible of deaths, (They had no guns to protect themselves) and their names still remain unknown, except for a very few who are honored by the Jews.
        The numbers of brave souls who fought for freedom against the tyranny of The Bolsheviks in Russia account for more than 70million lives lost to death camps and torture not to mention the Christians in the Ukraine another 16-17 million that were killed. These people were starved to death. They had no guns.(get the picture here) The list goes on and on. Poland, Hungary,Chech. Balkins, Vietnam, Cambodia, China, North Korea, Chile, Argentina, and Cuba. (No Guns)
        Obama the baby killer and his crew belong to this cartel of death. He shakes the hands of genocidial murderers while the mass media praises his actions. When will this madness end!
        Even the conservative talk show hosts show little OUTRAGE concerning this madness.
        When is someone going to call for OBAMA’S empeachment!
        The Congress just does not seem to care.
        We must elect people to Congress who are True Americans.
        Do you know any?
        My uncle was with Army Intelligence during and after WWII, ofcourse there were things he could never reveal to anyone. At end of the war he was assigned to Washington.
        However, on one occation he did tell me he was asked to keep an eye on the people in Govt.in Washington, as DC had become a HOT BED of Communism. This was in 1948.
        So, the Reds have taken over the Govt,Colleges and Universities, where students and teachers are taught and brain washed, so now what do we have and dumb-down electorate.
        Bella Dodd wrote about this Communists plan for the destruction of the US, in her famous book ‘Heart of Darkness’. 1950′-1960′s s A must read.
        God is our only hope for a better future, one filled with His Justice.
        We must ask Him to give us the strength to do what is MORALLY RIGHT FIGHT LIFE and FREEDOM, so that we may pass onto future generations the blessings He has given us in this GREAT NATION.
        HE MUST HONORED HIM FIRST! ALWAYS!
        HE WILL WIN AGAINST THE HEARTS OF DARKNESS.
        We must put our trust in HIM alone.
        He will give us the means to overcome His enemies which are also ours.
        As they are the enemies of Life,Truth and Justice.
        And if need be, we must be ready to lay down our lives for His Truth.
        Istillthink

      • David Hall

        Wild Bill,
        No disrespect meant, but it don’t make a rats-hiney, what they swear on, if
        they don’t believe in the Book. They’re all liars. There’s no Honor, Dignity or
        Humanity in Obama or his clowns. Greed and Power has no bounds.

      • Michelle

        In my wildest dream do I wish what you just stated and I will pray for this to happen every day of my life This disgusting excuse for a so called American makes me sick to my stomach, there is nothing American about this administration or Obama and his racist wife

      • Gary Schnell,..MOC

        2009 is the beginning of the second American revolution. I make no bones about it. I see no difference between either Democrats or Repulicans,Thats all bs and antics with semantics,.Pure sophistry. All these individuals who support the progressive anti gun laws, are the people resposible for every MURDER, RAPE, SCHOOL SHOOTING, And every other crime that would have and could have been avoide had there been an armed citizen around to intervine. These are the same individuals who try to make it sound some how like the Murders on the streets of Los Angeles by illegal alien Gangs is the fault of the NRA. When it is in fact there fault for allowing those in the DE-FACTO Government not to do their Job and Uphold the law of the land. These are miscreants who they themselves souldn't have firearms becuse that which lives in their own heart exposes their reprobate mind set. GOD SAVE THE REPUBLIC.

      • joe

        god help us that people in this coubtry come out of their coma. my opinion is that neither party really gives a damn about me and you, let alone the constitution. we need some people with balls and integrity to fight off the central banks, un and nwo, i don’t like the way it is headed and it is going to get worse. they need to be reminded on a daily basis that they are suppose to work for us and the consitution. that gun propaganda on the BOOB TUBE makes me sick and looks like it all staged for hype and support from the idiots in this country who don’t know anything and GOD knows we have plenty of them. enfore existing laws , border security, and immagration policy. if we lose that right the rest will follow. spread the word and wake-up. god bless joe

      • tfttom

        Complete slaves of you and our children is the intent of our current man @ 1600 penn ave. CFR is making the plans for our lives and future and if 20-50 million die for any reason the plan is on track.
        If enough calls our made to our creator charged with love devine intervention will come.
        Mr obama has just invited hamas to join our ranks these may be the guys that get to shoot us for not giving in properly to his commands.

      • Valverde

        It is spelled Dimocraps. You can smell them but they can’t see what the truth is even if you show them.

    • http://N/A Ratty

      DL Try 15% the rest is coming in from countries that don’t care for the US…. My Grandpop use to say “the best way to over throw a country is to take away there guns” How right he was… I have never seen the likes of this..This regime is trying everything to disarm,weaken and tear down this US.. I’ve never seen such “Negativity” come out of the Washington ,what the hell is wrong with these people…..?? It seems like we are at fault for being Americans… Obama is an on the job training ,,like McCain said he would be….

      We need Palin.. and that is no horse puckie !!!!! I really think we need here is a PEOPLES PARTTY<<<<INSTEAD OF THE “R” & “D”‘s

      • Barbara Haring

        No People’s Party please! Everywhere this has happened it ends up being a misnomer. It becomes the party of the biggest, meanest and most powerful, not a coalition of people who want to come together for a better country. What we need is an “American” party. One that believes in the Constitution and follows it to the letter. One that does not consider the Constitution a living, breathing document to be altered to coincide with the decline in a civilization in order for the biggest, meanest and most powerful to take over. The Tea Parties are a good example of what we need. Over a half million people coming together in a peaceful protest against what they all consider as a government that is trampling over their rights and ignoring the Consitution wherever it can. The Tea Parties showed we who wish our country to be all that it can be – empowering the people, not the government – is truly a doable deal if we just stand together.

      • Barbara Haring

        An added thought, maybe we could call it the “Constitution” Party.

      • jo

        I think there already IS a Constitution Party. Check your ballot next time you vote. HOWEVER, they hardly get any votes and no one knows who they are. When the Republican Party gets fragmented into smaller, “conservative” parties, and the Democratic Party still gets all the liberal votes (except for the fringe Green environmentalists), they will win every election. The Republican party has to become a conservative, constitution defending party again. And make the case for itself, and fight the propaganda from the left! It’s been populated but spaghetti-spined RINOs for too long. Some of their best talent steps down from office, too! Don’t forget what happened in 1992 and 1996–Ross Perot siphoned votes from Republicans & conservatives who were annoyed with the Republicans and it gave the election to Clinton both times (and he never had more than 50% of the vote….never elected by a majority…) He got lucky Perot threw the numbers off. And of course, the media gushed for Clinton, too. They practically campaigned for “messiah” Obama.

      • Robert Waldron

        we already have a political party that will adhere to the constitution. and its called the Constitution Party and its the fastest growing third party in the country’ Go to the website and check it out. Spread the word if you agree.

      • Ernie

        The Constitution Party already exists! To view the 14 page Platform, go to http://www.constitutionparty.com.
        This is the National Website. You don’t hear about this, either, from the MSM. Obama will serve a single term and go down in history as being the Chamberlain of his time. He is a disgrace to the office of POTUS, and if it weren’t for his eloquence, ability to talk without saying anything to fooling the masses, his crooked and monied connections, he wouldn’t have been electable as dog catcher. He wasn’t even successful as a Community Organizer. When he resigned as such to go to law school, he returned to the Chicago streets where he, “organized” and admits that they had further declined despite his prior efforts (and the expenditure of hard-earned tax money of society’s producers). That’s what comes out of giving someone something they haven’t earned with their own hard work and sweat.
        And for those of you who voted for this impostor, this subverter of our laws and Constitution, I hope you are now proud of yourselves. So many before you fought and died to provide you with the ability to destroy the very rights you are about to lose.

      • Steve

        Bravo Barbara!! A third party has only weakened any political movement. We need our politicians to follow the Constitution, nothing else. The RINOs may as well join the Democrats, at least this way we know who they are. There may have been over a million people that turned out to take part in the Tea Parties, we will never know considering the non-existent coverage by the drive by media. There were 13 people that turned out at the capital building in Colorado to push for more gun control. They were there on the Columbine anniversary and the media was all over it. We had over 7,000 people show up on tax day for the Tea Party in my town and there was only one national news organization that covered it, Fox News. We will never have a voice in the main stream media, we will have to make our own voices heard. Have no doubt, the Marxist Obama administration and Socialist congress are extraordinarily scared by the Tea Parties and there growing popularity. It was best said by Karl Rove last night on Glenn Beck’s show, we will lose our freedom of speech, freedom to worship, freedom to assemble and freedom to bear arms against any foe, foreign or domestic, if we don’t take part in the political process. Too many people just stayed home on election day, I was almost one of them. Get out there and make yourselves be heard. If we agree that the U.S. Constitution is the law of the land and nothing else, we can unite as one and defeat these destroyers of freedom. If you don’t have freedom, you don’t have anything!!

      • Raggs

        I agree, we need to put together the largest Peaceful Demonstration this country has ever seen and take it to Washington!

      • Richard

        The Constitutional party already exists but there is already the Libertarian party as well which acutally started the idea of the “Tax Day Tea Parties”. Both are constitutionally based but the Constitutionalists have a strong religious stance where the Libertarian party does not. With the libertarian party you don’t have to be a Christian but rather only believe in freedom and personal responsibility.

      • http://boblivingston Istillthink

        Dear Barbara.
        When,where, how?
        Istillthink

      • Ted

        Barbara,

        I agree with you whole heartedly. The next T party is scheduled for July 4th. Everyone needs to attend. You get excellent information on what we can do to turn this around. Also, there is already a party in place to do exactly what you have espoused. It is called the Constitution Party. We all need to re register in it and put up candidates who are willing to take on the establishment.

      • wayne

        WHOLEheartedly agree, parties mean nothing anymore. They are used to simply get the crooks elected, means nothing how they will act. We focus on incompetent president but he doesn’t get it done without our insane congress, daily seeing what crooks they are, FEinstein, etc. As we have seen they have the system totally rigged and very difficult to get changed. The other thing we need immediately is get rid of electoral college, we can’t exercise our rights with that rigged system. More Tea parties more noise, the liberal propaganda medias will never show truth. They are owned by a corrupt government. How many have watched “OBAMA DECEPTION”, please do it and spread the word. Don’t wait for big changes our freedoms are being taken daily

      • Ernie

        Wayne, I agree. The word for today is, “URGENCY.” Please see my other comments, above.

      • karen

        If your state has not claimed sovereignty yet please write and place phone calls to your state representitives and Governor.

        Also , Orly Taitz, esq. is still very active with her law suit against Obama for lack of qualification. See her web site at http://www.orlytaitzesq.com . Write and see if the Quo Warranto papers have been delivered to your states Attorney General and Governor yet. If not she may need help from you coping and sending them.

        Also, runway Grand Jury’s are forming in every state. Georgia has finished theirs and has found much reason to bring Obama to court.
        Go to this web site to see if your state has started one and all kinds of info on Grand Jury’s http://www.riseupforamerica.com .

        All cases against Obama have been dismissed for technicalities, not lack of evidence.

      • http://paragonservices.org Gloria

        He’s not getting on- the -job- training; his training started by his Muslim teachers from the time he was eight years old and the plan was in the making until the opportunity was ripe which was NOW. Just look at the people being appointed to positions in this Regime. He doesn’t need on the job training – he is trained to do exactly what he is doing with the willing help of the weak, corrupt traitors on Capitol Hill who are so corrupted that the only way to get rid of them is to take a shovel, a wheel barrow and scoop them all up at once and drop them off the deep end. Remember that these are AMEMRICAN people who availed themselves of the best education America had to offer while the rest of us were plodding along working and raising a family. There is so much corruption in this country it’s become palpable. We have people in the regime selling us out at every opportunity, from Pelosi telling the illegal immigrants that they are “the future of this country,” to Napolitano rushing to the work site of an immigration raid to issue on-the-spot emergency work permits while Americans go unemployed and then issuing a memorandum calling us “terrorists,” while real terrorists acts are being called “man made disasters.” These people have lost all touch with reality and are on a roll – all being paid for with tax-payers’ money.

      • Bonnie

        I agree that this administration has totally lost touch with us the people. I’m tired of being bankrolled by this administration. We need to make more noise, become better organized and of one purpose to throw out the corrupt politicians in 2010. We need to get educated on the views of our politicians and who represents standing behind the constitution, supports term limits and less taxation.

      • http://N/A Ratty

        Your right on .. I was wondering if I were the only one that thinks he is a Muslim…He wasn’t even born in this country.. You have to be a citizen of Indonesia to go to School there.. On that Certificate it states that he Religion is Muslim..

        Is there any out there that are grassroot Americans that we as a people can vote in to save this country… Big brother is listing to these e-mail as we speak… This is a hair from being a Dictatorship now… Obama is trying real hard to eliminate any and all opossion…

      • TrueAmerican

        The real problem is not the need for a new party, they are already out there.
        The BIGGEST problem is the peple who are so afraid that if they don’t vote for either a D or an R they won’t have cast a “winning” vote and so fulfill their own prophecy. Instead they vote for “the lessor of two evils” an still get evil.
        Are you willing to go around your neighborhood, starting about Oct. 1, and remind your neighbors to get out and vote but to not vote for a D or an R? It is about the only way things are going to truly change.

      • Michelle

        AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • WILLIAM JOHNSON

      I come from a small town in Oklahoma! Registered democrats control the ballot boxes. I don’t know what the percentage of registered voters are actually democrats, but it must be in the 97% range of registered voters, and this is about one third of our Counties population. Why did I point out this? We have a lot of democrats that are avid hunters, and just gun owners, that was raised with guns in the house. we don’t want our guns taken away.

      • rpm2hi

        Then how, can we as a nation of people who respect the constitution, go about convincing these type of (e.g. Oklahoma in this case) Democrats that their party has been hijacked by social-elitists, who consider the backbone workers and citizens of this country no better than dirt (MSNBC: “slack-jaw rednecks”)? It’s clear they believe many of us are simply pawns for them to use as they wish to enable them to hold or attain greater power? Of course they want our guns! Have you seen J. Garofolo’s (and others in the media) diatribe on what she thinks of the Tea Party’ers? Her (and others) contempt for us should NOT be a surprise!

        THIS COUNTRY MUST WAKE UP! Politicians that promise us free stuff that we haven’t earned, just for political favors, are CRIMINALS. They will NOT represent us, only THEMSELVES, in the long run.

      • http://www Chuck

        I agree totally.

    • Tom

      With the current anger and the dismal aproval rating of our goverment. I think the dumbest thing they could do right now is to attempt to take away americans right to bear arms – So their going to attempt to do through the back door. They need to know, Americans are not stupid and they are arming themselves at an unpresidented rate. They are doing so becouse they fear the current administration, congress and our senate. At some point they will push the average american to far and I fear gun control may be that push.

      • jo

        they’re also going after the first amendment (formerly known as the “fairness doctrine”–which was anything BUT fair.). and they’re trying to do that through the back door, too. they don’t want us to have access to information that contradicts their propaganda. be vigilant… tea, anyone?

      • joe

        is this so they can sensor the information that is on the net now? i didn’t realize that was about that but that sure is scary> it is not looking good with all the bullshit this admistration is pushing, we need to stay on top of the clowns and do the best we can until we are cornered like a rat. people in this country need to unite, stand firm and protest everyday ,allday and everywhere but people have way bought into the bullshit that you can harly get anyone to angree on anything and that is how they push their agenda, divide and conquer. god bless all patriots

      • KAOS

        A Little Gun History Lesson

        In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun control. From1929 to 1953, about 20 million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

        In 1911, Turkey established gun control. From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

        Germany established gun control in 1938 and from 1939 to 1945, a total of 13 million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves were rounded up and exterminated

        China established gun control in 1935. From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

        Guatemala established gun control in 1964. From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

        Uganda established gun control in 1970. From 1971 to 1979,300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves were rounded up
        and exterminated.

        Cambodia established gun control in 1956. From 1975 to 1977, one million ‘educated’ people, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

        Defenseless people rounded up and exterminated in the 20th Century because of gun control: 56 million.

        It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia
        were forced by new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars. The first year results are now in:

        Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent

        Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent

        Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes,
        44 percent)!

        In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms
        are now up 300 percent. Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned
        them in, the criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns!

        It will never happen here? I bet the Aussies said that
        too!

        While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady
        decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.

        There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and
        assaults of the ELDERLY. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain
        how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in successfully ridding Australian society of guns. The Australian experience and the other historical facts above prove it.

        You won’t see this data on the US evening news, or hear politicians
        disseminating this information.

        Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and
        property and, yes, gun-control laws adversely affect only the law-abiding
        citizens.

        Take note my fellow Americans, before it’s too late!

        The next time someone talks in favor of gun control, please remind him of this history lesson.

        With Guns………..We Are “Citizens”.
        Without Them……..We Are “Subjects”.

        During W.W.II the Japanese decided not to invade America
        because they knew most Americans were ARMED!

        Note: Admiral Yamamoto who crafted the attack on Pearl
        Harbor had attended Harvard U 1919-1921 & was Naval Attaché© to
        the U. S. 1925-28. Most of our Navy was destroyed at Pearl Harbor & our Army had been deprived of funding & was ill prepared to defend the country.

        It was reported that when asked why Japan did not follow
        up the Pearl Harbor attack with an invasion of the U. S. Mainland,
        his reply was that he had lived in the U. S. & knew that almost all
        households had guns.

        If you value your freedom, Please spread this anti-gun
        control message to all your friends!

      • Ernie

        Would the guys buying up all the primers for large handguns and large and small rifles please leave some for the rest of us? Anyone out there know where there is available stock?

      • D.C.

        KAOS. YOU ARE SO RIGHT ON. We will be sheep to slaughter without our right to bear arms. Write, type, yell, scream, and protest to YOURS AND OURS, REPRESENTATIVES to stop this madness before it’s too late!!

      • harold

        for anyone who is not sure you can bet that they will take our guns and all rights you think we have.fema has already been informed to staff the rex-84 camps.For those of you that dont know what that is, stop and ask yourself what happened to all those milatary bases closed for the last 18 years. there has been more activity at this sites since ther so called closure then when they we open, maybe not as load but just as busy. I know your saying oh no another wachco but before you wrtie me off just drive by one in your area.the camps are ready ,FEMA is ready and the milatary is standing by awaiting orders to control cival unrest and confiscate all weapons.this is not a plan contrived since Obamas election, it has been in the works for many years. Dont think your politicans will help you they are the godless ones that help plan this it has been
        in the works since the 60s.noticed I said in the works since the 60s, it was concevied of as far back as the mid 30s. Your goverment knows that we have been complasent for to long, and if it doesnt get in the way of cozy little lives too much they could (and have) decevied us all. sorry for the wakeup we can all go back to sleep now

      • joe

        yeah i have to agree with kaos. this is the start of the liberal anti-gun propaganda. has anyone ever seen a fully automatic weapon in a gun shop for sale, i haven’t. i think the dc clowns ohtta go to 10 of their local shops and see how easy it is to obtain one, file form 4 with local police and pay 200 tax. that propaganda and bs on main stream media namely MSNBC is exactly that, to beat their anti-gun drum and to get more support from ignorant, uninformed citizens. you know damn well those weapons are most likely coming by sea or land from south and central america. we have very strict laws now, they just need to be enforced. how do we even know that that segment wasn’t staged for plublicity? mexico has their problems and we have ours and ours is with them and all of the illigals coming over here and draining our systems. people had better take notice and make their voices heard and words read to the clowns in dc, this ain’t fun and games anymore it’s very serious time we are living in! wake-up and smell whats cooking and it ain’t good. god bless all patriots joe

      • Valverde

        The government tried to take away gun-owners’ ammunition by taking away the brass with which to make it. The NRA got wind of it and filed a lawsuit. Suddenly, the government wasn’t interested in taking away the brass anymore. Some Nobamaite Brady-buncher actually told an NRA member that the government was buying up all the brass because if the “rednecks can’t get ammuniton we don’t need to take away their guns.” Kind of stupid thing to tell an NRA member, don’t you think?

    • LARRY

      MY FRIENDS,
      OUR COUNTRY MAY LOOSE ITS FREEDOM AS GUARANTEED BY THE CONSTITUTION AND THE BILL OF RIGHTS WITHIN OUR GENERATION.THE
      RIGHTS IN THE WORDS OF OUR FOUNDERS ARE GIVEN BY GOD,NOT BY GOVERNMENT.WE THE THE PEOPLE HOLD ALL THE RIGHTS IN THESE DOCUMENTS SACRED,AND NOT WHAT THE ELECT CHOOSE.THEY TAKE AN OATH TO PROTECT.DEFEND,AND PRESERVE THE CONSTITUTION.GUARD FREEDOM WELL FOR THERE IS NO HEAVANLY
      REWARD FOR THOSE WHO LOSE TRUTH.
      LARRY

      • Duane

        I truly believe you are correct. If this nation does not honor God and Country then we will fall. This nation was place above all others for the sake of freedom only so long as we live by Gods laws. We have a President who tells the world we no longer stand for Christianity. If we forget God, better learn another language, because we won’t be here as English speaking much longer. Obama is trying to extract that issue also, our belief in God a supreme being.

        We need to fear this government, it is eroding our freedom and rights whether its guns, marriage, right to life…our Constitution will hang by a thread if he remains in office for 8 years. We will be socialistic and looking to the UN for guidance on all other issues.

        He is spending our nation into bankruptcy. You can keep handing out the dollars without looking it has to come from somewhere (us, the American tax payer).

        Heaven help us.

      • jo

        Vote in Republicans in the next election cycle (2010) so they don’t have filibuster proof majorities in Congress that can push through whatever freedom-squelching, money-squandering, economy-killling legislation they wish!

      • harold

        this countrys liberals have gone out of there way since the 1960s to all but remove god ,and his laws from the consititution as well from the fabric that was part of all our lives.We as a nation turned our backs on god and i dont think that you can expect god is going to bail us out now. dont get me wrong I love god respect god and follow god.If you believe in god read revelation , he cleary says fear not that these thing will come to pass but be faihtful. Remember god love for his people when they turn from god he turned from them for awhile, but like the faihtful father he is he always came to them when they turned back to him. Also remember our constitution can be wiped out with the stroke off two pens (signatures). this law is already on the books, all Barac Hussen Obama and Eric Holden need do is sign on the dotted line scary isnt it

      • joe

        hey harold, nice to see some people know what’s up and not listening to all the propaganda and bs. i firmly believe what you have said. it is coming and people all over need to wake-up, including law enforcement and military personal , so we can end this in insanity. people need to view a couple of movies that lay it all out for you to see exactly how it has and is being done.1st google video the big picture(final cut) next missing links this is about 9/11 and check out crowhouse .com for more stuff. very compelling and well researched. check it out and spread the word, time is running out. joe

      • Carolyn

        Larry, you are so right. And for more truth about this matter, everyone should read “The Christian Manifesto” by Francis A. Schaeffer.

    • janita florez

      These “communists’ think like Hitler but I am not afraid becuase I believe in my constitution and if that doesn’t work we can bare arms against our corrupted government why else do you think americans are buying guns left and right…………removing obama is underway. wait and see impeachment is coming !!

    • David Rachel

      We defeated Mexico in a War and now they are trying to slide in the back door and take over our Country. We have hundreds of thousands here now and their government is trying to get in for control. This is insane to tolerate it.

    • Denise Johnson

      It make me sick every time that holder opens his mouth along with the rest of the talking head on the…I love that line about our military, That thay could turn on them… give me a break, the only thing thay have to worry about is the groups that are from another country that hates us with every breath thay take, and granted some are here, Know there the one’s thay should be worried about. Its so crazy, if any one thinks I’m giving up my right to bare arms, its time to start taking some sharper shooting. But to the heart of the matter, I have cousins that are officer in N.Y. city, and Long Island. Thay belive in there constiutional rights, as well as i do. Nancy mouth alone could handle large weapon “her tounge”.
      She so left, and started out right handed, and look what happened..
      God Bless America
      Proud Navy Mom
      Denise.

    • http://donthaveone Mark

      Eric Holder is a dick head, pure and simple, 1st class dick head.

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