Who’s Breaking News On White House Scandals? Not The Mainstream Media

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So now the National Security Administration’s (NSA) long-running practice of collecting phone metadata on just about everyone has come to light. Who broke that story? Was it CBS? ABC? Was it even Fox News?

It was Glenn Greenwald writing for the UK paper The Guardian.

As Breitbart pointed out Thursday, almost no mainstream media in the U.S. has been in front of any of the many, many scandals that have emerged in the early sledding of President Barack Obama’s second term.

With the exception of some dogged reporters who’ve essentially had to go rogue within their own organizations in order to delve into the Benghazi scandal (like CBS’ Sharyl Atkisson and CNN’s Jake tapper) – and been persecuted by their own employers as a thank-you – there’s been precious little issues-based reporting, and a truckload of damage control, emanating from the American mainstream press over the IRS scandal; the AP scandal; Benghazi and now Verizon.

Leaks, scoops and whistle-blowing on all these scandals have come either from within (as in the case of the IRS), from members of Congress who realize how subservient the Legislative branch is becoming to the Executive branch (as in the case of Benghazi) – or from newsgathering outfits that lie well outside the American mainstream (as in the case of Verizon).

“Well, if it is Thursday, there must be a new Obama scandal,” writes John Nolte. “But one thing is for damn sure, whatever that scandal is, you can bet the American mainstream media will be playing catch up and not carrying the glory of breaking a story…”

Fact: Over the past few weeks, four major scandals have broken over the Obama administration, and it is a very sad (and frightening) truth that our pathetic, American, lapdog mainstream media is not responsible for breaking even a single one.

… And do you want to know what makes this realization especially pathetic? In three of the four scandals (the AP being the exception), had our media been less interested in protecting Power and more interested in holding Power accountable, these huge, career-making stories were right there for their taking.

Contrast that with the George W. Bush Administration (which opened the door of expanded executive surveillance power that Obama is now exploiting), when the White House Press Corps relentlessly dogged the President and his cabinet at every turn.

“[A]t least Power knew it was being watched,” observes Nolte. “Today, it is the complete opposite and the result is an administration run amok.”

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Ben Bullard

Reconciling the concept of individual sovereignty with conscientious participation in the modern American political process is a continuing preoccupation for staff writer Ben Bullard. A former community newspaper writer, Bullard has closely observed the manner in which well-meaning small-town politicians and policy makers often accept, unthinkingly, their increasingly marginal role in shaping the quality of their own lives, as well as those of the people whom they serve. He argues that American public policy is plagued by inscrutable and corrupt motives on a national scale, a fundamental problem which individuals, families and communities must strive to solve. This, he argues, can be achieved only as Americans rediscover the principal role each citizen plays in enriching the welfare of our Republic.

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  • Darral

    Of course not Main stream media is owned and controlled, censored by the Democratic party, not much different than any other Dictatorship, tyrannical Government, Abolish this Destructive Treasonous Democratic party.

    • Deerinwater

      Treasonous? That’s a tall claim.

      The democratic party does not own Media national outlets, But in as far as “Control” ~ It is common knowledge that the first liar is always found at a serious disadvantage, ~ To avoid this truism and gain the upper hand , tell us ~ what must you do? ~ I would say quit being “First” or quit “Lying”.

      Example; ~ People that go about the practice of “sedition” and “treason” would hide under a banner of Patriotism as they attempted to destabilize Central government. For anyone to openly insist elected leadership must “Fail” to protect the nation does not sound very American to me but very subversive to American principals.

      You are entitle to your “Opinion” ~ while this entitlement is not exclusively yours and yours alone.

      The election process that we employ in America has never claimed to offer anyone results they might hope for. If you disapprove of General Elections, why have them?

      Who is Dan Rather?

      • Darral

        Read Dr Edwin Vieira Jr. Essay Dare Call it Treason, and do your own research he gives you the references, I call it treason for a reason and Call it what it is TREASON, And yes it is a matter of record that Members of and supporters of the Democratic party Own and operate Most of the Main stream media out lets, and they screamed there bloody heads off when the Koch brothers wanted to purchase one because the Koch Brothers are definitely pro Republican, , when Ale Gore was selling His news Glenn Beck wanted to By it, Ale refused to sell to Him Glen is definitely anti Democrat . IF YOU ARE GOING TO CALL SOMEONE A LIAR GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT, but then you sound like a typical Democrat Denies the truth and blame someone else,

        • Deerinwater

          Where and When were you ever called a “Liar” Darral?????

          SHOW US. I want to see it. ~

          and while you are at it ~ help us understand what you mean by “Selling the News” ~ that seems to be an “loose term” that requires “Framing” for understanding.

          Darral, ~ making charges is easy to do for anyone. ~ requires almost ZERO effort. ~ A 4 year old does it! Mamma he hit me! is one of the first.

          If Dr. Edwin Vieira has supplied you with support for this claim, ~ tease us with it. ~ Offer us a paragraph or two , to tease our interest and make us “want” too know more.

          Only then can you say that you have written a post of substance.

          Since , I did not call you a “Liar” ~ I will assume the rest of your posting is Bull$hit at well.

      • Frank Kahn

        In our language, and colloquial usage, the word owned can mean different things. If I have the power to control everything you do and say, “I own you”. That does not mean that you are my property, it just means that what you do is mine not yours. Your words are the words that I want to say, not yours. So maybe his use of the word owned is not a lie.

        Since you always seem to prefer being philosophical about issues, lets be philosophical about lies and opinions.

        Opinions are based on many different things. It could be facts, experience or even perceptions. If the perceptions that I have, based on my experiences are wrong, is my opinion a lie? If all of the information (facts) that I have are wrong, is my opinion, based on that information, a lie? In other words, if my opinion is based on the lies of others, does it mean my opinion is a lie? Or, do these situations simply rise to the effect of being deluded? We have clashed before, because many of your opinions are based on your perceptions based on your experiences. Since your perceptions are diametrically opposed to my experiences, are you lying? Do you have enough information, about his basis for that statement, to call it a lie instead of an opinion?

        You started out with a questioning of the use of the word treason. Here, again, we need to identify what is or isn’t treason. And, we will have to refer back to the idea of an opinion. In my opinion, anything that attempts to corrupt or violate the constitution is treason. It is a form of attempting to destroy the government, as legally defined, of this country. If you view the actions of the liberals as attempting to do this, then they are committing treason. Since the majority of policies, of the democrats, are liberal, the preceding statement applies to the democratic party. Since I view many liberal policies to be against the constitution, the democratic party is treasonous. That is not a lie, it is a fact based on an opinion.

        On to the idea of it being un-American to say that the leadership (president) must fail to protect the nation. You incorrectly claim this goes against the principles of our country. Actually, it is a major foundation of our system of government, called the separation (balance) of powers. It is the job of congress to rein in the power of the president. The president has veto power to rein in the power of congress. If the president is attempting to do something, that is determined to be harmful to the nation, then congress has both the power and the duty to stop him. Since many, if not most, of his ideas and policies are perceived, by us, to be harmful to the nation, we must stop him. That is the beauty of a democratic republic, we have the power and authority to prevent you from forcing us to accept your bad ideas. Sadly, it also gives you the power to institute illegal and immoral policies that destroy both the nation and the moral structure of a civilized society.

        Am I wrong, in my assessment of your liberal agenda? NO, it is my opinion, based on experience and education. If you disagree with me then you are lacking in one or both of those tools. A homosexual thinks it is normal to be that way. Are they right? No, there is nothing normal about it. The fact that they perceive it as normal does not make it so. If liberals say it is normal, does it suddenly become normal? NO, just because liberals want to make homosexuals feel good, does not make it normal. Sorry for using the homosexual reference to make the point, but it is one issue that is totally demonstrable, scientifically, to be unnatural and therefor abnormal.

        • Deerinwater

          I always enjoy brisk and lively debate with you, my Jewish Friend. ~ and wish that I had more time to do so Frank.

          I am being called away ~ perhaps I will find the time in the wee morning hours on a sleepless nite. ~ I will make a sincere effort to respond in a mindful and respectful way.

        • WTS/JAY

          Another wonderfully written post, Mr. Kahn. Kudos!!!

        • Deerinwater

          Sorry for the long delay Frank, I’m spread rather thin this time of year but as I promised you, I will attempt to address some of your posting in a respectful and thoughtful manner.

          I agree, the word “owned” can imply several meaning. While to suggest some sort of ownership of media is being very loosely applied here. ~ Media owners busy themselves selling products. ~ Politics and the associated “prophesy” is much like a lumber yard selling hardware and nails, as well as lumber. They might promote “Brands” ~ but the brands don’t own the lumber company. ~ To suggest a Brand has some control and affect daily operations and activities of a lumber yard is marginally correct at best.

          In as far and your 2nd paragraph, “Lies” and “Opinions” ~ I don’t remember calling this comment a lie ~ I would be more inclined to just say it was a “False”claim. I went back over my postings and see no mention of “lies” ~ It appears that your 2nd paragraph is primary a introduction to your 3rd. where you work to frame a point of contention writing.

          “You started out with a questioning of the use of the word treason. Here, again, we need to identify what is or isn’t treason. And, we will have to refer back to the idea of an opinion.” so I shall . You write , ” Opinions are based on many different things. It could be facts, experience or even perceptions. If the perceptions that I have, based on my experiences are wrong, is my opinion a lie?” ( to answer your question, if your perception is wrong, than your opinion is wrong)

          And You are correct! I do question the use of the word treason, very much so. Your closing sentence to paragraph 3 and I quote. ” Since I view many liberal policies to be against the constitution, the democratic party is treasonous. That is not a lie, it is a fact based on an opinion.”

          The only fact offer here Frank is that you have an “Opinion” ~ That’s it! ~ You have an opinion ~ and that is a fact, ~ The merits of your opinion have nothing to do with the “fact” that you have one. We seem to be applying some sort of circular reasoning in this area of “Facts” and Opinions. ~ and again I reserve the word “lie” ~ for when it might actually apply. ~ Lies are deliberate, premeditated and intentional. For me or you to “unknowingly” repeat a lie does not make us “Liars” ~ it only make us both misinformed.

          Paragraph 4, You write, ” On to the idea of it being un-American to say that the leadership (president) must fail to protect the nation. You incorrectly claim this goes against the principles of our country.”

          I will give you an opportunity to rephrase that Frank. ~ I’m not going to beat you up with that, it’s just too easy and would serve no purpose. Perhaps you meant ” in order to protect the nation”? ~ In any case, I refuse to address it as written.

          Summary paragraph #5 ~ where you show us the twist in reasoning that accounts for your thinking process and why I love to attack you so. You write, “Am I wrong, in my assessment of your liberal agenda? NO, it is my opinion, based on experience and education. If you disagree with me then you are lacking in one or both of those tools.”

          I just love this one! You are maintaining the belief that If I don’t agree with you ~ than it is only I that is found

          • Deerinwater

            where did the rest go????

            Oh Mr. Livingston ! ~ I give up ! ~ is there a word limit now?

            Frank ~ it’s been a fight to get this posted and I’m pooped as it is. ~

            But Gay know they are not normal ~ they are gays 3 to 5% of the population. ~ They are normal in the sense of having a sexual orientation just kind you Frank. ~ You have an orientations that is shared with 95% of humans and a hard head ~ that make you “Normal” ~ 3 to 5% is clearly out of the norm for the balance of the world population.

            My opinion is a fact, ~ in that it is MINE ! exactly like yours in the context ownership Frank. ~

          • Frank Kahn

            Your response to the owned idea missed the point. Your example was not even close to the idea I put forth so it is not a good refutation of my idea. I was saying, if the democrats control all aspects of what the media produce, then they own them. It had nothing to do with promoting or supporting the media.

            Perhaps your memory is as bad as your reading ability. You said that being the first liar has its disadvantages, and he should either stop lying or not be the first. I did not mention you calling him a liar without cause.

            I never said that it was a fact that they had committed treason, my sentence structure is aimed at claiming that my opinion is a fact and nothing else.

            It is also a fact that the democrats have committed actions that are treason under the definition of treason, if you adhere to the constitution. We might have a difference of opinion on what constitutes treason, but that is not something that we can fix. In my opinion you are totally wrong. You can not change that opinion, because you cannot show any facts that counter their actions.

            Obama has committed treason on many occasions, most notably, his giving aid and support to know terrorist organizations that wish harm to our nation. Your only defense of this despot would be to claim that AL-quida is not an enemy of the United States. Or maybe the state department and the CIA are doing all this supplying of weapons against the wishes of the president.

            The next item. and I would cut and paste a direct quote from you but this stupid comment setup will mess up my post if I try. You made the statement in the same form as my reply, you said “elected leadership must “Fail” to protect the nation”. You did not say “in order to protect the nation”. If you want to have me be grammatically correct, you need to make a stab at it yourself. I used your words, and your grammar, my point is still valid.

            The last part of the next point is not all there, so I will have to assume that you made some nonsensical reply. Since my opinion is based on facts garnered from education and experience, your opinion must be similar or you have failed to receive a good education or your experiences are severely lacking. Turning a blind eye to reality, or refusing to see the truth is a form of failed education. You cannot learn if you assume something is a certain way just because you want it to be. Obama is a traitor, and, by your definition, a liar.

            We will need to identify the source of statistics on the percentage of homo’s in the world. Your estimate is exaggerated according to my sources, there is a much smaller percentage of homo’s. Having a hard head has nothing to do with demanding that the truth be adhered to. I am basing my assertion that homosexuals are not normal, because they are not natural. Natural – as in keeping with nature, to conform to that which nature promotes for continuation of itself. Homosexuals are an abomination unto nature, an anomaly, not consistent with the natural order. Something went wrong in their development, either physiologically or psychologically.

            They have the exact same rights as everyone else, including, living with the definition of all words in our language. They, along with liberals, have no right to change the meaning of any word in our language, to make them feel like they fit in to normal society. They have no RIGHT to get married, neither do you or I. Marriage is not a RIGHT. It is an institution, and there is a definition for marriage that has existed for almost the entire history of man. It does not say any two adults that love each other, it is a man and a woman. If liberals, don’t like the definition, they they should make up their own word so the rest of us can simply ignore the stupidity. When two homosexuals can reproduce, through monogamous sexual relations with their partner, and propagate their new race, then they will be natural.

            Do you want to go a round on the murderers that condone and perform abortions?

          • Deerinwater

            I am not sure if I am having browser or site “issue” Frank. ~ some of my posting just did not get entered.

            In any case, your 5th paragraph is the most reveling as you leave no doubt in anyone’s mind that you view anyone that disagrees with your “Opinions” (that you wish to claim as factual) LACKING! when you say , and I quote , ” Am I wrong, in my assessment of your liberal agenda? NO, it is my opinion, based on experience and education. If you disagree with me then you are lacking in one or both of those tools.”

            Frank , if you cannot see the absurdity in your own statement, ~ you are beyond help in as far as attempting to reason and negotiate with.

            There is a “Lacking” in your thinking process that prohibits you from do so as you describe a black and white world of your own making for the convenience of your own understanding as you have framed a world inside your own context and attempt to apply it to the world at large without apology.

            It was primary attorneys that crafted the Constitution, the interpretation of it can be up to a consensuses I suppose but at the end of the day ~ it is attorneys that will interpret, abridge and amendment and not a few radical elements of society that want to regress 200 years.

            Moses did not bring the “Constitution” down from the mountain, it does not enjoy “Divine” status. That you seemed determined to impart Holy status and argue with small gods about what it means and what it can and can’t mean is great fun perhaps but superfluous in nature. It will be attorneys that will do this and the President is included in this small leadership circle of attorneys.

            There are many issues today that flies in the face of Constitution Law as we attempt to apply the rule of Law and the Spirit of “intend” with no God among us except for the self appointed most “Righteous” ( that is your cue to take a bow Frank)

            My father was this same sort of Man~ Frank. ~ I endured him for 63 years ~ You could not bring him a problem that he could not find a solution for in a matter of minutes and sometimes seconds!

            He was a powerful and forceful man with hands as hard and big as an iron skillet that took a dim view to opposition. He put a size #12 in your ass in a heartbeat.

            I grew up in a house where the only man that was allowed complex problems was he. Your problems were always simple problems that he could correct in seconds. ~ So your “Personality” is no stranger or confusing to me ~ Like you have said ~ life experiences and education is the well of knowledge that each of us draw from to form our “Opinions” ~ while still , ~ opinions are just opinions ~ and no more. Facts are not required.

            This Big Daddy , moral and intellectual superiority complex behavior you parade about on these forums might work well on some people ~ Frank but it just don’t work on me. ~

            I see you for what you are to me~ an overly “opinionated” to a point of a being a zealot with far too much spare time at your disposal to pontificate your views.

            The men have been coming in and it time to end this and get busy in the Vineyard of then Lord.

            Dear God, ~ guide my words and deeds this day and I be found worthy in your sight. amen.

          • Frank Kahn

            Are you still having trouble with rational discussion?

            “It was primary attorneys that crafted the Constitution, the interpretation of it can be up to a consensuses I suppose but at the end of the day ~ it is attorneys that will interpret, abridge and amendment and not a few radical elements of society that want to regress 200 years.”

            An education in liberal obfuscation and denial is not an education in facts or knowledge. For you to deny facts or truth is not from knowledge or any form of education. The use of ignorant liberal opinions will not sway those that see the real world. The profession of the men who originally drafted the constitution is of no importance. Nor, would the fact that they were all lawyers (which they were not), impart god like authority to current day lawyers, to define and change the constitution. Actually, lawyers as a group, have no special authority whatsoever. It is actually incorporated, in the constitution, that it takes a consensus to change it. No law can change the constitution, it must be changed using amendments. All amendments must be ratified by 2/3 of the states. This means that there must be a consensus of 66% of the people to amend the constitution. And, again, only an ignorant liberal would try to claim that adhering to the constitution is “regressing 200 years”.

            “Moses did not bring the “Constitution” down from the mountain, it does not enjoy “Divine” status. That you seemed determined to impart Holy status and argue with god about what it means and what he can and can’t do.”

            Nobody is trying to claim it has “divine” status, what it has is “supreme” status. It is the supreme law of the country, It claims itself to be inviolable. No law can be made that violates the constitution, so it has supreme power in our system of laws. This is not my interpretation, it is stated in plain English, which anyone, with a basic education in our language, can understand.

            “There are many issues today that flies in the face of Constitution Law as we attempt to apply the rule of Law and the Spirit of “intend” with no God among us except for the self appointed most “Righteous” ( I think that is your cue to take a bow Frank)”

            Lets ignore the attempt to ridicule for the time being. Everything that “flies in the face of Constitutional law” is unlawful by definition, in the wording of the Constitution. The “spirit of intend (sic)” is something that is fostered by liberals attempts to pervert the constitution. If the words, in the constitution, say something, that is what it means, attempting to say that you think they really meant to say this, is wrong. The last time I looked, you did not have to be God, to understand the English language. A good education in reading comprehension would help though, something that many liberals fail to exhibit.

            “Frank , if you cannot see the absurdity in your own statement, ~ you are beyond help in as far as attempting to reason and negotiate with.”

            Please let me know when you decide to use reason in your posts. There is no negotiating needed here, we have not yet set the stage of facts. I gave you an opening to state facts concerning Obama’s treason, and you ignored it. I challenged your opinion, based on a lack of actual learning or experience, and you ignored it, choosing to attack my integrity instead. I don’t need “help” with reasoning, I need to hear some reason for your opinions.

            “There is a “Lacking” in your thinking process that prohibits you from do so as you describe a black and white world of your own making for the convenience of your own understanding as you have framed a world inside your own context and attempt to apply it to the world at large without apology. ”

            You used an over generalization in this section. What is lacking? Who are you to claim that I am the one lacking in MY thinking process? Yes, I don’t apologize for stating facts. Facts are black or white. If it is a true fact, it is white, if it is just an attempt at pretending a thought is a fact, it is black. There are no “grey” facts, if it is not white, it is not a fact. If you think, that one or more of my facts is black, please be specific so we can discuss those facts in a reasonable manner.

            “This Big Daddy , moral and intellectual superiority complex behavior you parade about might work well on some people ~ Frank but it just don’t work on me. ~

            I see you for what you are to me~ an overly “opinionated” to a point of a being a zealot with far too much spare time at your disposal to pontificate your views. ”

            Based on the opinions you have expressed, over the last few months, you can be described in the same manner. You put forth a form of intellectual superiority in your posting of your opinions. Even if I have a greater level of intellect, this is about knowledge not intelligence. Although, a lack of intelligence could lead you to fail to understand the facts that you have received. I take my moral direction from the laws of nature applied with common sense. This does not make me superior to anyone else, it just makes my judgement correct in how it was formed. If you don’t like a moral judgement, that is based on nature, I would suggest that you take it up with nature. Nature might listen to your argument and change the way it does business. I don’t know, nature does not inform me as to which issues it is willing to negotiate.

            Overly opinionated? Now there is a phrase that is used incorrectly by most people who say it. Your entire life is conducted based on your opinions. This is true of every intelligent person in the world. If running your life based on your opinions is being overly opinionated, then everyone is overly opinionated. Now, lets try to apply some logic. If everyone is overly opinionated, what is the level of being reasonably opinionated that they crossed?

            You really floor me with the last part of this quote. I am suffering from “thinking too much”? Would it be acceptable for me to say that you are suffering from not thinking enough? What is too much? If I constantly take new facts, and check my opinion against this new knowledge, am I thinking too much? If the new facts re-enforce my opinion, is there a reason to change it? If I refuse to change my opinion, based on someone else’s opinion, am I not thinking enough?

          • Deerinwater

            I believe that we are just about done with this Frank. ~

            Franks says , “The profession of the men who originally drafted the constitution is of no importance. Nor, would the fact that they were all lawyers (which they were not), impart god like authority to current day lawyers, to define and change the constitution.”

            Let us disagree without being disagreeable, ~ for it does matter who crafted the Constitution , It matters a lot!

            Frank says, “Overly opinionated? Now there is a phrase that is used incorrectly by most people who say it. Your entire life is conducted based on your opinions. This is true of every intelligent person in the world. If running your life based on your opinions is being overly opinionated, then everyone is overly opinionated. Now, lets try to apply some logic. If everyone is overly opinionated, what is the level of being reasonably opinionated that they crossed?”

            I say, ” I assume that you are speaking of yourself when you say “Your entire life is conducted based on your opinions.” ? As you seem to display the results of this behavior.

            Frank, one’s life is the direct results of how we “REACT” to life. ~ Opinions are only mortar ~ they are not bricks.

            Everyone does not “react” to their opinions the way you seem to Frank. ~ To have an an “opinion” is one thing, while to “react” on it is another. It seems that you are suggesting that they are one and the same.

            Most people have a sense of humility and reservation about themselves and re-frame from needless reaction to opinions, ~ where it be their opinions or someone else’s opinions. To install one’s self in the “All Seeing and all Knowing” ~ sitting in the god chair of Judgement and administer one wisdom onto others ~ is a Sport for small gods, a position you seem rather too comfortable with as you suggest that you champion a documented that frames the intend of freedom and personal liberties from all Americans.

            You employ the term “Liberal and Liberals” excessively. ~ In fact, ~ I don’t believe that you can write a post without using the term. ~ You explain the mindset, ~ you explore the nature, you highlight the “lacking” ~ but you never explain yourself ! ~~ while telling us only that you are a defender of the “Constitution” as if that might be enough to explain your views and opinions~~ a document that you tell us that you don’t care who wrote! They could have been chicken farmers for all you seem to care.

            Well ? ~ that don’t say a lot for your “Opinions” Frank.

            That I would be found left of you Frank does not make me or anyone else a “Liberal” .

            It is people like myself ~ that are willing to show tolerance to people like you on the extreme right and left ~ that keep the wheels on our wagon. ~

            It is people like myself that told our elected official in Washington in Oct. of 2008 , ~ we did not want to see Wall Street bailed out by the Federal Government.

            But they did it anyway Frank! ~ They did it anyway!

            If you think that this unending attack on your friends ~ is somehow going to serve you in someway. ~ I think that you are in for more disappointment.

          • Deerinwater

            Franks says to me “Based on the opinions you have expressed, over the last few months, you can be described in the same manner. You put forth a form of intellectual superiority in your posting of your opinions. Even if I have a greater level of intellect, this is about knowledge not intelligence. Although, a lack of intelligence could lead you to fail to understand the facts that you have received. ”

            I write persuasively Frank, ~ Years ago, finding myself extreme “Lacking” and touch of dyslexic to boot, I applied myself to scholastic study and educated myself on how to write and you haven’t . I’m not really that good at it ~ but much better than you. I had a handicap to overcome, where as you have yet to acknowledge that you even have one. Being ignorant of ignorance can be viewed as blissful perhaps.

            To your credit, you do try very hard to write convincing commentary but circular reasoning and omissions seems to interfere with presenting a powerful paper. You are all over the place and have little structure or form. Whatever you have managed to mastered since the 7 th grade was by osmosis, you mimic others that you see and hear repeatedly and admire, basically regurgitating other peoples “thoughts” and words” and plagiarize them. ~

            We all “copy” at some level, nothing to be ashamed of. ~ I could not read, but at the age of 4, ~ I was copying the bible. ~By the 1st grade, my “T” , “A” and “F’s” looked peculiar, the teacher took exception too it. . Being the first born, with no one to play with and poor, I had few toys, ~ buttons, string, sewing thread spools and old spark plugs. ~ copying the bible kept me entertained, busy and quite. And more important to me, ~ it made my parents proud, ~ I liked that, ~ so I copied.

            Writing in some ways is much like building a house, There is a place to begin and a place to end. Opening, support and summary.

            ~ There are many basics ~ to apply. ~ and once you learn to apply them, there are other things to address , like Selecting your “audience” and write to them! ~ You see Frank, ~ you really have not written to me, ~ you have addressed me ~ but you are writing to your friends , you are write for their approval. ~ You have thrown everything that you can at me but the kitchen sink, ~ used up some of your standard “talking points”, along with the standard “put-downs” attempting to dress me down, debase me, diminish me anyway you can. Liberal this , Liberal that. `

            And you have not even touched me. You are not writing to me, ~ But trust me Frank, ~ I am writing to you.

            You have made so many wild claims and charges in the last few post, it ‘s hard to find a place to start to address all your wild, outlandish charges Frank. ~ I’m not even going to try. ~ I will select a few that give us a good view into Franks mind.

            Example #1

            Here is sentence in Frank’s 1st response, I quote ~~ “It is also a fact that the democrats have committed actions that are treason under the definition of treason, if you adhere to the constitution.”

            Frank then stated in his 2nd response, ” I never said that it was a fact that they had committed treason, my sentence structure is aimed at claiming that my opinion is a fact and nothing else.” ~

            Frank, ~ there is no need of being superfluous, ~ we all know that you have an “opinion”, it’s not necessary for you to tell us that it’s a “Fact” that you have one.

            You do this often Frank. ~ It’s not powerful, it’s not believable. ~ The two statement are in direct conflict, as you attempt to explain it away by tell all of us , ~ that it’s a “Fact” that you are here posting your “opinions.

            Okay next , ~ The charge is treason, ~ where is your argument? ????? ~ there is none.

            Example #2

            Franks says in 1st Post , “On to the idea of it being un-American to say that the leadership (president) must fail to protect the nation. You incorrectly claim this goes against the principles of our country. Actually, it is a major foundation of our system of government, called the separation (balance) of powers. It is the job of congress to rein in the power of the president. ”

            Frank, American’s should never wish to find ourselves in the position to want our elected President to “fail”. ~ and surely not openly stating so ~ on his 1st month in office. But you heard that somewhere ~ Frank, ~ and you have taken the liberty to repeat it over and over , again and again. ~ until it is now “Your Thoughts” ~ To say such a thing is treasonous in nature. I’d never wanted W. Bush to fail , once he became my President.

            Worthy opposition is good Frank, ~ but insisting that your President “must fail” ~ does not fall under the category of “worthy”

            and on and on it goes, and goes

            Then you claim , “An education in liberal obfuscation and denial is not an education in facts or knowledge. For you to deny facts or truth is not from knowledge or any form of education.” ~

            Okay? ~ You have employed one of your favorite words, ~ and made another charge , ~ where is your argument? You really have not said too much of anything, you have basically attempted to slobbered on me. ` Education is by nature a “Progressive endeavor”. Education is all about enlightenment and the change that is to be manifested by it. While the nature of Conservatism, is resistance to change and finding comfort in knowing things will be unchanging. It affords a sense of security. If you are not aware, ~ then the unknown does not exist in such a mind.

            Then you claim , “And, again, only an ignorant liberal would try to claim that adhering to the constitution is “regressing 200 years”.

            ~ Well Frank ~ I guess you are addressing me? ~ It’s a rather large document and been revised many time. ~ I think I would want someone beside you to interpret this document. ~Left for you to interpret it, it’s a good chance that it would be “regressive”. ~ I would enjoy hearing the arguments of learned men and women. ~ I find myself at the mercy of a “system” the founding fathers, in their wisdom put in place to address such matters.

            If Obama has engaged in Treason, ~ I feel rather certain one of them would take the greatest of please in addressing it by filing legal charges and back the claim.

            And wasn’t you the one who write, ” That it didn’t matter who wrote the Constitution” ?

            Frank goes on to say, “You cannot learn if you assume something is a certain way just because you want it to be. Obama is a traitor, and, by your definition, a liar.”

            okay Frank? ~ that’s a charge, that “Obama is a Traitor ~and a liar”, so once again, where is your argument to support it? ~

            Then Franks ask the question, “Now, lets try to apply some logic. If everyone is overly opinionated, what is the level of being reasonably opinionated that they crossed?

            Logic? Okay ! logic is fun. I would have to say, ~ I don’t know about “everybody” Frank, I’m not writing to everybody at the moment. You have made it personal and now you are attempting to include everyone?

            When “anyone” addresses you like the voice from the “Burning Bush” , telling you what the FACTS really are! ~ by saying such things as ; ” If you disagree with me then you are lacking in one or both” or “”A good education in reading comprehension would help though, something that many liberals fail to exhibit.” and they answer to the name “Frank” ~ I’d say a line has been crossed. ~ Many Lines Frank ! , ~ not one, not two, not three but many.

            Summary, ~ too much of anything can be bad for a person Frank. You are not stepping on the foul line Frank, you crossed over it some time ago.

            You are not the man you were just 14 months ago and I worry for you brother.

          • Bob666

            Yo Deer,
            Got on roll there Buddy, but a point well made.

    • WTS/JAY

      Some good news, folks! It appears that not all Liberal-Democrats are spineless and brain-dead.

      LEFTIST JOURNO ON OBAMA SURVEILLANCE SCANDAL: “OBAMA ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN VERY AGGRESSIVE ABOUT BULLYING AND THREATENING ANYBODY WHO THINKS ABOUT EXPOSING IT”

      When even a hard Leftist like Glenn Greenwald is hitting Obama for spying on the American people and threatening journalists who expose these activities, you know the scandal is huge.

      I warned that Obama was an enemy of free speech and an authoritarian at heart over three years ago in my book The Post-American Presidency: The Obama Administration’s War On America. Glenn Greenwald probably dismissed what I revealed in it as “right-wing.” Now he knows.

      GLENN GREENWALD: The US Wants To ‘Destroy Privacy Around The World’ Business Insider, June 7, 2013 (thanks to Sara)…

      http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/06/leftist-journo-on-obama-surveillance-scandal-obama-administration-has-been-very-aggressive-about-bul.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=facebook

  • dan

    6 Corporations That Control Your Perception | Think Tank
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0hxMaAAmaX0#!
    Face it: The US is no longer a republic or a democracy. The US is now a fascist, plutocratic, oligarchical corporatocracy.
    And they all attend Bilderberg!

  • Deerinwater

    That’s a very wide Brush to paint a detailed picture with Darral. ~ It is the Jewish people that dominate “Media” ~ Darral ~ if there is to be a single dominating force of control to media. ~ and I believe in some ways the argument could be made that there is. ~ Where Jews affiliated themselves with the DNC more so then the RNC , I don’t know. ~ I would come near thinking that they are American and differ among themselves while having common interest.

    Glen Beck ~ is not a name to invoke in any discussion of “News” or Truth” Darral

    Commentary? ~ sure! Beck has been selling hay seed of truth in bucket of manure for sometime now, having become the Howard Stern of “Political Entertainment”

    You can’t drink from a poison well ~ and expect good health and sound thinking Darral.

    You bring forward the term “Stoned” ~ an altered state ~brought about by ingesting substance that effect the nero-system , no doubt you are familiar. I gave such things up some 40 years ago as I entered maturity with responsibilities.

    Trash in, trash out , Darral.

    • Vigilant

      “Where Jews affiliated themselves with the DNC more so then the RNC , I don’t know.”

      It’s well known that Jewish folks vote 2 to 1 democrat in any given general election.

      • Deerinwater

        Oh really? ~ While I don’t find that surprising , how can it be explained? From what point of view do you have to offer Vigilant?

        If the American Jewish community symphies are as you say , clearly they holds sway to media matters . That they are seen left of the extreme rights position today does not alone make them “Liberal” , but only left of an extreme Right.

        To refer to a race of people as “LIBERALS” that were “targeted” by government with a “Final Solution” that resulted in the killing of between five and six million Jews, more than three million Soviet prisoners of war, more than two million Soviet civilians, more than one million Polish civilians, more than one million Yugoslav civilians and about 70,000 men, women and children with mental and physical handicaps to include more than 200,000 gypsies, unknown numbers of political prisoners, resistance fighters, homosexuals and deportees in recent modern history as somehow being “Liberal” ~ would required some serious explaining Vigilant. ~ I don’t really think that you can.

        While I will accept that you can see yourself to the “right” of Jewish prevailing sympathy .

        This process of attempting to moving the “Center” to the “right” has been carefully orchestrated by the Extreme Right in response to years of too much “Left” offered by your own conservative Leadership . ~ and I would certainly agree that change is needed in the worst way. ~ but referring to Jewish people as “Liberals” is not going to get you where you want to go.

        (, “The Nazis frequently used euphemistic language to disguise the true nature of their crimes. They used the term ‘Final Solution’ to refer to their plan to annihilate the Jewish people.”)

        The Democratic party is not attempting to move this line between the right and left , we are where we have always been, mostly moderates with some lefties so far out , they are off the radar. ~ We are an inclusive party ~ even if it hurts our position. Fairy’s, Rainbows. immigrants are welcome and will be represented as Americans with the same rights afforded all Americans. ~ It’s not an “Approval” by the “Party” but an “Acceptance” , a right and freedom afforded all Americans by out Constitution.

        • Vigilant

          I am wondering what caused you to go off on a tangent like that.

          “…but referring to Jewish people as “Liberals” is not going to get you where you want to go.” Where do I want to go, Deer, since I never said that?

          I simply said, “It’s well known that Jewish folks vote 2 to 1 democrat in any given general election.” I have no point of view as to why that is so, I simply made the statement to answer your question.

          • Bob666

            Yo Vigilant,
            why do believe that is regarding Jewish voters? I am not taking issue with your data-just curious as to what you’re thoughts are.

          • Vigilant

            In truth, Bob, I really don’t know why it’s so, and I would be out of my element to claim any knowledge about it. Frankly, it’s a mystery to me.

            One can see possibilities vis-a-vis perceived racism or anti-Semitism on the part of those characterized as extreme right wing groups such as the KKK.. On the other hand, anti-Zionism seems to reside more prevalently on the left.

            I’d have to (and may) do more research to find the answers.

            Do you have any theories?

          • Bob666

            Well Vigilant,

            Like you, I am not Jewish. Having lived in south Florida for over thirty years among a significant Jewish population, I would make a couple of observations;

            First, like any other groups, there are both Conservative and liberal and most that I know are in the middle.

            From a political view, most tend to follow a libertarian view point and a common concern is any form of religion that would threaten their existence here in the US as well as the state of Israel.

            Radical Islam is obviously he greatest threat, but I believe theere is always a concern about Christians-but to a lesser degree. Many of my neighbors are pretty rational people and accept Islam and believe there are both radical and liberal forms of Islam.

            The older Jewish people who are departing this world have always recalled the days European antisemitism was far more of a threat than Muslims and even told me of times when both existed in the middle east with some degree of peace.

            Many that I know would be willing to live in Israel with Arabs and share power if they felt trust could be achieved. As a group, I have found them to be far more educated, resourceful and environmentally conscious.

            I live among some decent people and they have always treated me very well with the up most respect. Some of my most enjoyable conversations and debates being with my Jewish neighbors.

            When you do your research, I would be interested in your results. I have put a link below that one of my neighbors gave me years ago and I get an email from this site every day. I have found their content to be very objective and it offers a more global view of the news every day.

            http://www.jewishworldreview.com/

            PS: I hope that Bob does a piece on the Zionist movement. From the little that I know, I would say that most all Zionist are Jews, but few Jews are Zionist.

      • Deerinwater

        Forgive me Vigilant, ~ it was not my intention to direct the point of my quandary only to you. ~ I was attempting to direct this labeling conflict to the “board” and crafted my sentence poorly. My sincere apologies.

        That said, ~ it’s it odd that to ponder the thrust of the argument. ~ Are 50% of the voting American Jews “Liberal” ?

        • Vigilant
          • Deerinwater

            Thanks for the Link Vigilant. ~ ~ It appears I have lost 30 minutes worth of work in my response to you as I surfed away from my posting for research. ~ That is frustrating. ~ and has happen twice now since Mr. Livingston has upgraded his site. ~ I must learn how to avoid it. ~ I’m certain that there is a way.

            Condensed response, ~ your link fails to support your claim of 2 to 1 Jewish vote for democrats ~ with perhaps the exception of Mitt Romney ~ they rejected Willard rather soundly. ( Like a redhead stepchild to be more concise. )

            While I would have thought the Allied Supreme Commander and President Eisenhower would found greater favor among the Jewish people than the graph shows.

          • Vigilant

            Deer, I don’t know what part of the chart you looked at, but just in the last 20 years, Jewish voters have cast their ballots as follows::

            1984: Mondale 67%
            1988: Dukakis 64%
            1992: Clinton 80%
            1996: Clinton 78%
            2000: Gore 79%
            2004: Kerry 76%
            2008: Obama: 78%
            2012: Obama 69%

            I think the link I provided more than supports my assertion. And sometimes the vote exceeded 3 in 4 voters.

          • Vigilant

            Deer, I’ve had trouble with Disqus as well. It seems that with each “improvement” to this site, it takes longer to post anything, let alone paint the site on the screen.

            I also find the Facebook portion useless; I don’t belong to Facebook and simply disregard it. The data mining that takes place on Facebook is disgusting and intrusive. Just one more thing to slow the site down.

          • Deerinwater

            Oh! Good! I just thought is was just me. ~ I like these improvement in many way ~ but we are getting to the point, larger ram and faster processor will be necessary. ~ I am maxed out with my current PC at this point.

            Up grade time ! once again ~ I do hate it so ~ I upgraded just two years ago ~ Much Worse then a new girlfriend or a new pair of boots.

            Yea, You made your point about Jewish “leanings” ~ while “two to one” is not one in two ~~ is it? ~ depends on who’s on first! ~ I suppose.

            I didn’t want to say so but that graph was sort of confusion ~ as the Blue scale seemed to be inverted ~ I studied it for a while and then the numbers. A line graph is normally easier to read, while the number value somewhat clear. ~

            If there is one single thing that the Jewish are notorious for is to conduct business and display the pretense of a united consensus among differing parties. ~ They will honor a commitment, they will compromise~Virtues necessary for money lending and banking. ~ Not to suggest, you can’t find a blemish or an exception to the contrary. Like “Made-off” ! for instance. Madoff ~ perfect name to aspire too! seems he tried!

            That a majority would share the same choice among two contenders is not surprising. To introduce a third contender would alter this voting pattern among Jews just as it would any other voting block while perhaps not to the same degree.

            I am currently reading “Hunting for Eichmann” by Neal Bascomb ~ Just a coincidence. ~ came out in 2009

            A grim subject to be certain ~ but History ~ none the less.. History that needs to be remembered and understood for what it was. By no means does a single novel afford a full views, but a very narrow one and why we must all read more.

            The Jewish people of today ~ can’t be the same people that they once were. I fail to see how that could be possible to ask of them. I think that they have come away stronger and more united for all the blood letting and suffering. This sense of being united ~in a way that the rest of the world can see ~ could stir a sense of resentment for less united people.

            While I will still judge a man by “his” deeds and and not his whole race by the acts of a few. . ~ Hell’s Bells, I am a Winkler.of Greman descent. Could have been Vinklerstine ~ better than Mosenbacher or Ahsligger or Lutenhougher

    • perry

      You act like a deer in water the jewish people are not Americans will never be.They are look at what they are doing in the world today they beg for american money to get the money and weapons they act like hit men for america around the world they are dishonest like the main stream media and our law makers

      • Deerinwater

        Perry say “You act like a deer in water the Jewish people are not Americans will never be.”

        Oh Really! ~ Then perhaps you could be kind enough to explain to all of us “American Christians” and Jews alike what it is that makes an American born Jew less American than ~ say, You! for instance? I’d enjoy hearing such an argument.

        And, ~ by the way ~ there is no need to show off your IQ and sport with my Tile. ~ I am not “acting” but simply asking you to explain your statement and share your point of view.

        Just offer us some support for your statement is all you need to do, no more.

        • perry

          you lump jews and christians in the pool how can you do that. if I must tell you or support my views then you need to explain why I need to tell you anything are you king or some thing?

          • Deerinwater

            I am only one American that fought a war with fellow Americans of all creed and pedigree, of all shapes, color and size. We were but grandchildren, decedents of people that encompass the globe that called ourselves Americans. ~ We fought and we bleed together under one flag and one nation that we called home.

            I have asked you to explain yourself Sir. ~ or put a sock in it.

          • perry

            you can ask any thing you wish however I will not put a sock in it I also was in the service of our country so don’t feel like you did something great the jews I am talking about do not live in america look at what they do to their neighbors their leader is a lying killer of kids and the country is full of racism And your hat is stupid.

          • Deerinwater

            We are discussing the political slant and influence of the American Jewish community “Perry”.

  • boyscout

    This news just now broke by a Brit??? And I suppose no one heard of carnivore YEARS ago. I suppose that if one only follows TV Headlines then he/she might have missed a bit of info, but I did not guess anyone here would be so naive.

    • me

      The beans got spilled so our media was force to join in. the hell of it is our media is owned by the big business/big banker bunch who manipulate our elections and decide who we get in a lot of our government. The Brit is one who was not owned like everyone in our media.

  • jim b

    Doesn’t their ratings say it all. Last I looked their combined ratings didn’t equal the fair and balanced news reporting on stations like Fox News and CNN Larry Kudlow’s for instance. Who is kidding who here, whether the mainstream is aware of it or not, not many are listening to what they are spewing anymore. It’s hard to hid the fact that you are a government serf, the mainstream media is the slave of governments socialist and liberals ideology, they’ve forgotten their role, they’ve been indoctrinated and they don’t even know it!

    • Deerinwater

      No Jim, ~ Rating fail to say it all I’m afraid. ~ for many reasons and on several levels. ~ Popularity has more to do with image building and marketing. ~ This is farmed , cultivated , contrived and manufactured to appeal to the masses that read at a 4th grade level and are somewhat cost consciences.

      Fox offeres an appealing package. ~ Pretty women, sports , fast moving and not bore with running caption , slanted commentary and is included in a package of Premium channels offered on a Global level ,24/7 at competitive budget prices. Excellent Marketing!

      These things have little to do with integrity or accurate accounting and certainly not based or founded on it, much less the true importance of being accurately “informed” unless it be Sports Scores or Weather.

      I offer you this without getting into the workings and politics associated with the “rating system” and how popularity and “most viewed” is decided.

      But we can go there if you wish?

      • jim b

        I agree, the current POTUS is a perfect example of the marketing you speak of i.e. farmed , cultivated , contrived and manufactured to appeal to the masses that read at a 4th grade level.

        • Deerinwater

          So you are basically offering us that the most “Popular Media Outlet” in the nation today is Pro Obama? I find that rather hard to accept as being true.

  • perry

    Any one whom thinks that Americans gets any NEWS ON T.V. THEY ARE LIVING IN A WORLD OF DREAMS.THE OBAMA GNAGE CONTROLS ALL OF THE NEWS! THE WORST GNAGE ON THE STREETS IS D.H.S.and COPS

    • Deerinwater

      Well I hope so! ~ I take it that misspelled word is “Gang”

      Civil unset ~ is not a desirable state of affairs for most of us . ~ Not to say it does not have a place and purpose in human endeavors. But that is a big throw down card to play in a game of “Go Fish”

      It appears that Central Government is coming under attack all over the Globe today. ~ Turkey the most recent. ~ any pretense can be used. ~ In Turkey, ~ it was started over plans to remove the the last of a “green zone” in a major City urban center. ~ Sometime well worth fighting for in my book ~ but not killing each other over. ~

  • tncdel

    When is the Tea Party and the GOP going to call for Obama to be PROSECUTED and removed from office? A non-U.S. citizen is NOT constitutionally-entitled to impeachment proceedings.

    Obama’s social security number failed E-Verify, and anyone with enough intelligence to follow the simple instructions of this video can prove to themselves beyond any doubt that the document Obama claims is his birth certificate was amateurishly created using Adobe layering techniques. Please see:

    http://youtu.be/7s9StxsFllY

    • Robbie

      The Obama birth certificate was long ago verified by Hawaii state health officials as well as the Republican governor when the controversy began and several judges.

      • CARLYBGOOD

        Robbie how much are you being paid to post on this site? How tragic that you would accept fool’s gold to defend crooked Obama. I really feel sorry for you. Nobody, and I mean nobody, spends $4 million of his personal money to fight lawsuits to keep his birth certificate secret.. He only brought out the fake one just before the last election. Just keep drinking that Kool-AId.. by now you can’t even taste the poison! And remember the mysterious theft of Obama’s passport from the passport office and how the sole witness to the crime was gunned in the street right before he was to testify.?You never heard another word about it. There was no murder investigation on this young man’s death. From day one, Obama has been nothing more than a corrupt, Chicago street thug guttersnipe that prides himself on bullying anybody who goes up against him. We knew what he was when he smeared his opponent to win his Jr. Senator Seat in Chicago. He’s worse than he was back then. How do know he’s lying? HIS LIPS ARE MOVING!

        • Robbie

          First of all I am not being paid by anyone to be involved in these debates. Believe it or not there are actually people in the land who do not agree with your political viewpoints. I suppose I could suggest that it is YOU being paid by some right wing corporate big wig who hates the smart white guy who got elected to the Presidency twice but why would I bother. It’s not like anyone here has to tell the truth seeing as we are unknown to others here. So the best way to proceed is to simply try to deal with the issues and facts.

          Frankly most of what you have written is pure fabrication and nonsense.Various top officials in the Hawaii state health dept attested to the fact that their dept archives held a true birth cert. for Obama and the REPUBLICAN governor of that state agreed. I guess he was in on the so-called hoax as well. Also its kind of amazing don’t you think that way back 50+ years ago the hospital in Hawaii submitted the birth statement to two Hawaii newspapers. I guess the hospital officials way back then somehow knew that 5 decades later this baby would be running for President so they gave the two newspapers false info. Anyone who could believe in that series of events is a total fruitcake.

          Anyway that clown Donald Trump has even given up on this nonsense. Around the last election Trump claimed that he had investigators in Hawaii to seek out the truth and that they supposedly were finding out lots of incriminating evidence against the President. However, it’s kind of revealing don’t you think that Trump never actually revealed any of the so-called “evidence”. Yet you cling to this nonsensical myth.

  • CARLYBGOOD

    A little over a year ago, I went into my Dish Network Preferences settings and blocked out all channels coming from NBC, MSNBC, Russia TV (rtv) Communist China Channel (cvt), CBS, ABC, CNN and Bloomberg. I kept cspan. Last night we cancelled HBO on Dishnetwork online for playing smearing Ronald Reagan in an Socialist Documentary about him. They blame him for our current economic woes. OUTRAGEOUS! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! If millions of people turned off these channels and advertising dried up THEN WE MIGHT SEE A RETURN OF REAL JOURNALISM IN THIS COUNTRY!!! Get Netflix for $8 a month, and JOIN ME IN FIGHTING TO TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY! GOD BLESS BOB LIVINGSTON FOR THIS SITE

    • Deerinwater

      I’m not sure that denying descending voice is a cure all for anything. Block it all or block none of it would be my thoughts on such matters.

      You could well end up being an Adolf Eichmann in you zeal to remove a what has been determined as a threat by party influence that you sympathize with and cow tail too.

      There has always been (at least) two side to every argument. To want to hear but one, does not make you brighter or more correct but appear to not actually care or just mentally lazy or only interested in “scoring points” for “your team” , those that wear the Red Jersey .

      Opposition is a good thing, ~ it only need be found “Worthy”. Our system of government required opposition for balance and steering.

      Your notions of “solutions” ~ might only wish to be “Final” ~ This has been attempted before ~ and while at great cost to all parties~ it failed.

  • marylou

    Thank you UK for printing the news the MSM in America keeps trying to hide from the American public! Well done. Keep up the good work!